[00:03] <asac> rsalveti: so the pulse issue is fixed?
[00:04] <asac> aka
[00:04] <asac> 1. Voice call not working properly after the first call (Ricardo/David H.)
[00:04] <rsalveti> asac: yes, but not yet pushed, doing some more tests
[00:04] <asac> sure
[00:04] <rsalveti> yes
[00:04] <asac> David was pinged on that one and looking with Ricardo is now focusing on that one.
[00:04] <asac> rsalveti: which component is this touching?
[00:04] <rsalveti> android and pulseaudio
[00:04] <asac> any news on:
[00:04] <asac> 2. Camera freezes after taking photo on Nexus 4 (which is making the camera AP tests failing) (Ricardo/Sergio)
[00:04] <asac> Sergio is working on that one. Ricardo will join force on that one.
[00:04] <asac> ?
[00:04] <rsalveti> next on the list
[00:04] <asac> :P
[00:05] <rsalveti> we know what is locking the app, not sure why still
[00:05] <asac> balloons: made progress on:
[00:05] <asac> 5. Weather and Clock apps flaky tests (Nicholas)
[00:05] <asac> Nicholas hopes to be able to get the latest fixes in and release in the click store today as well.
[00:05] <asac> ?
[00:06] <peryt> HI, I'm trying to run ubuntu touch on samsung galaxy note 2 n7100. When i run brunch n7100
[00:06] <peryt> I get this  make: *** Brak reguł do zrobienia obiektu `/home/m/Pulpit/ubuntu-touch/out/target/product/n7100/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libandroid_runtime_intermediates/export_includes', wymaganego przez `/home/m/Pulpit/ubuntu-touch/out/target/product/n7100/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libsecosal_intermediates/import_includes'. Stop.
[00:06] <peryt> Any ideas on what to do with it ??
[00:08] <asac> peryt: in general i would suggest to set LANG=en_US :)  ... most might guess, but some might not really understand what " Brak reguł do zrobienia obiektu " means :P
[00:08] <basketballl> rsalveti,
[00:08] <basketballl> you know how samsung has the multitasking feature split screens
[00:09] <rsalveti> no idea
[00:10] <basketballl> you guys should add that to ubuntu touch
[00:17] <asac> rsalveti: seems this multitasking feature split screen is like sidestage
[00:17] <asac> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHJyWiNpwhI
[00:20] <rsalveti> right, we already have taht ;-)
[00:20] <hozertech> any one know if the mail client on ubuntu touch will work with office356 exchange?
[00:22] <asac> hozertech: does that exchange version support imap?
[00:22] <hozertech> checking...
[00:23] <asac> peryt: btw, you might want to use make showcommands to get more verbose output on whats going on.
[00:24] <asac> iirc ... havent built anything for a while :))
[00:24] <hozertech> asac: it does indeed
[00:25] <asac> hozertech: yeah, then its likely. but dont build a business model around it for now :)
[00:25] <asac> hozertech: also they might have an odd dialect (MS is known to be just off-standard)
[00:25] <hozertech> assac: every one seems to just a little off anymore
[00:26] <asac> also true
[00:26] <asac> but i think everyone senses that derailing standards has been a core, intentional strategy for MS in the past
[00:26] <asac> while others just dont know what they are doing often :P
[00:27] <asac> hozertech: so yeah, i would say there is hope that our initial email offering will support that thingy somewhat
[00:27] <hozertech> true, but you could say the same for apple and sony as well
[00:28] <hozertech> i'll give it a go.
[00:28] <asac> note that the email client isn't there yet :/ popey is the man of choice for more info afaik, but he is UK so hopefully asleep
[00:29] <hozertech> good enough. thanks
[00:33] <asac> yw
[00:35] <balloons> asac, weather needs rebuilt (minor packaging issue), clock is still being worked
[00:37] <asac> balloons: cool, pump weather in :)
[00:37] <asac> cash in low hanging fruits
[00:38] <asac> balloons: is weather a package? or click?
[00:38] <balloons> asac, it's click, but the store has a review process..
[00:38] <asac> balloons: who is doing those reviews?
[00:38]  * asac wants to ensure you get a fast track
[00:38] <balloons> asac, for core apps it's popey
[00:38] <asac> hmm. only one ?
[00:39] <asac> but guess thats good enough.
[00:39] <balloons> asac, sergio can as well
[00:39] <asac> balloons: want anyone to help double checking? or will you just upload and send mail so popey can approve in morngin?
[00:40] <balloons> asac, yes popey rejected it for the pkg fix.. I'm pushing a new version which should go fine. everything else checked out
[00:41] <asac> balloons: cool. send mail and CC me plz. the more we get fixed the more coal we can put into the CI Train tomorrow morning :)
[00:41] <asac> oh ... dont CC me
[00:41] <asac> CC didrocks :)
[00:41] <balloons> asac, plan is to have them all. I'll mail the list
[00:41] <balloons> lol asac
[00:41] <asac> even better
[00:43] <asac> balloons: do you know how the store works? would it be simple to hook automation up to the "staging/review" pocket
[00:43] <asac> beuno: ^^
[00:43] <asac> maybe this is already in plans?
[00:43] <balloons> asac, we like to do manual verification; it's how we catch potential issues
[00:44] <balloons> the review for the store is the last stop :-)
[00:44] <asac> balloons: sure. we do manual validation in CI Train as well... but still do automation to support decision making
[00:44] <asac> balloons: yeah, its actually equivalent to the silo in train i figure
[00:44] <asac> that silo currently is manual, but will get also automation soon to support
[00:44] <balloons> asac, right.. the review is automated.. the manual bit is processing it and checking test results
[00:45] <asac> balloons: so you guys run the APs in there already?
[00:45] <asac> (manually)?
[00:45] <balloons> asac, what would be nice is to have builders that would run on actual devices :-)
[00:45] <asac> balloons: you mean MPs?
[00:46] <asac> balloons: we will consolidate that MP stuff all into the emulator (also for us) - except for stuff that is known to be silicon dependent like mir
[00:46] <balloons> asac, doesn't even have to be MP's.. Could just be when we want to push to store
[00:46] <balloons> gotcha
[00:46] <asac> balloons: yeah. i think its MPs where we want to do that and implement spomething similar to CI TRain approach
[00:46] <asac> that community can land stuff
[00:47] <asac> on their own
[00:47] <balloons> asac, I would certainly like it in the MP, just pointing out anything > nothing
[00:47] <asac> balloons: remind me to tackle that when we have emulator in dashboard (which hopefully is just a week or two away)
[00:48] <asac> balloons: we will do that. just remind me that you are still forgotten once you see the emulator popping up in ci.ubuntu.com
[01:52] <axisys> tostab03 device is not listed.. how do I get a sample roomservice.xml ? should I run breakfast against a know device and then edit the file?
[01:54] <axisys> according to wikipedia tostab03 is related to everest.. should I just run breakfast against everest?
[02:02] <frecel> is anyone here writing html5 apps?
[04:42] <nijo> is nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???
[04:43] <nijo> is nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???
[04:44] <nijo> hi
[04:44] <nijo> any one here???
[04:44] <nijo> anyone here???
[04:45] <nijo> is nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???
[04:52] <nijo> is nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???
[05:00] <onionch> i have a question
[05:02] <onionch> i intalled the ubuntu SDK, but  when i create a new project  there are only three chioce "other project" "None-Qt project" "import project"
[05:06] <onionch> i intalled the ubuntu SDK, but  when i create a new project  there are only three chioce "other project" "None-Qt project" "import project"
[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <MacSlow> hey there dholbach
[08:00] <dholbach> hi MacSlow
[08:14] <liUbuntu> Hey I don't know if anyone can help but I flashed a Nexus4 with Ubuntu and it doesn't have any sound capabilities of any sort, what should I do? (Ie no ringtone/text notification/music output via headphones or speakers) Help please :(
[08:15] <frecel> How did you test the sound?
[08:15] <liUbuntu> I've only tried getting the phone to play the sound via ringing it and playing music so far
[08:16] <frecel> And sorry but I have to ask: are you sure the sound is not turned all the way down?
[08:17] <liUbuntu> yeah I'v checked it with both hard keys and system settings
[08:19] <frecel> and before you flashed the phone verything worked just fine?
[08:19] <liUbuntu> Yeah I'm pretty certain it did
[08:21] <frecel> can you put some sound file on your phone and check if it will play?
[08:22] <liUbuntu> yeah the sound files are just music from my computer files they all work fine
[08:24] <frecel> So it's just ringtones that do not work?
[08:25] <frecel> I'm asking a lot of questions because I'm trying to narrow down where the issue is
[08:25] <liUbuntu> No the phone just won't make any noise whatsoever, whether its ringing it or playing song or anything it's just silent
[08:27] <frecel> Can you go to settings and click on About this phone and post here what version of Ubuntu Touch you are running?
[08:28] <liUbuntu> Ubunut 14.04 (r194)
[08:28] <frecel> update to the newest version
[08:30] <liUbuntu> Okay cheers I'll try that I've got to go in a sec so if the problem persists I'll come back later and try again, is it best to update via terminal on my computer or via the phone over wifi?
[08:31] <nhaines> liUbuntu: via phone over wifi should work, but if you're on the latest version and that doesn't work, you might want to give reflashing via computer a try.
[08:32] <liUbuntu> whats the deal with connecting to wifi cause on the phone my options are pretty limited, the only option in the settings for wifi is a tick box to auto join previous networks.. how do I choose a network in the first place?
[08:33] <nhaines> liUbuntu: What version of Android did you have on your phone before you flashed it?
[08:33] <liUbuntu> not sure 4,4,something maybe? why?
[08:34] <nhaines> Okay, did you reflash your radio manually before installing Ubuntu?
[08:34] <liUbuntu> No I dont think so
[08:34] <nhaines> That's the problem then.  Update Ubuntu, and if that doesn't solve the problem, use the trusty-proposed channel.
[08:34] <liUbuntu> I've gotta go off now
[08:34] <liUbuntu> cheers for your help though
[08:35] <nhaines> Latest update should fix it.  If not, come back.  :)
[08:35] <nhaines> Take care!
[09:38] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Tooth Fairy Day! :-D
[10:01] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:20] <mardy> Laney: hi! I'd really recommend you to add that extra "if", because it will make the landing much easier (no need to synchronize the landing of your branch and online accounts)
[10:21] <Laney> If online accounts doesn't go in then you get an annoying popup because of its pageComponent
[10:21] <Laney> the UI is still hidden by default too
[10:21] <mardy> Laney: and anyway, I think it's reasonable to expect that if a plugin want to implement the reset() functionality, it *must* implement version 2 of the interface
[10:21] <Laney> I don't think it would be the end of the world
[10:22] <mardy> Laney: OK for this
[10:22] <mardy> Laney: still, it seems clearer to me if we disable the reset functionality unless one implements version 2
[10:25] <Laney> I was mainly trying to keep as much compatibility as possible
[10:26] <Laney> Most plugins will want to do it in js, I imagine
[11:34] <ubuntuuser> Errors were encountered while processing:  phablet-tools E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:34] <ubuntuuser> please help
[12:10] <beuno> asac, yes, automation of reviews is far along
[13:22] <Mirv> gatox: hi! could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-purchase-service/+bug/1273570 that's assigned to you?
[13:23] <gatox> Mirv, i'll take a look
[13:36] <dedo93> hello
[13:36] <dedo93> anyone have ubuntu on nexus 5?
[13:37] <ogra> some people do
[13:38] <Tassadar> I do
[13:40] <dedo93> with multirom?
[13:41] <Tassadar> yeah
[13:41] <dedo93> ok :) what release? it's stable?
[13:42] <Tassadar> dedo93: did you see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50689471&postcount=645 ?
[13:43] <Tassadar> I have latest image from trusty-proposed installed, it works pretty well. It doesn't crash or anything like that for me, but people still have problems with sound apparently, something about it only working for the first phone call
[13:44] <Tassadar> if you wish to compare it to Android, you'll probably be somewhat disappointed though
[13:46] <dedo93> i've installed the sam build
[13:46] <dedo93> *same build
[13:47] <dedo93> but is very buggy
[13:47] <dedo93> I can't open Terminal app :(
[13:48] <ogra> Tassadar, thats supposed to be fixed with 212
[13:48] <Tassadar> oh, yeah, that didn't work for me the first time too - try to close it and open it again (tap&hold your finger on it's previes on the homescreen a cross will show up)
[13:48] <Tassadar> ogra: cool, saw it was released
[13:49] <ogra> Tassadar, there are fixes on the android hal side though
[13:49] <ogra> you might need to rebuild
[13:49] <Tassadar> ogra: I've got a server set-up to be in sync with official trusty and trusty-proposed channels + device part built on the server
[13:49] <Tassadar> hmm
[13:49] <Tassadar> the android parts are built weekly right now
[13:50] <dedo93> ok now works! I did the OTA upgrade
[13:50] <dedo93> to 212
[13:50] <Tassadar> ogra: do you know which android project it is?
[13:50] <ogra> phablet-4.4.2 or so
[13:51] <Tassadar> gerrit doesn't show when were they changed :/
[13:51] <Tassadar> I mean, which sub-repo in that whole tree
[13:52] <ogra> whydont you just use the android source package ?
[13:52] <Tassadar> ?
[13:53] <Tassadar> I probably mean something different Oo
[13:53] <ogra> apt-get source andriod ... fddle a bit with the target arches nad have it produce hammerhead
[13:53] <dedo93> another thing.. how can i connect to a hidden wifi?
[13:55] <Tassadar> ogra: I've got it to sync with repo at https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com, is that not updated? (that's probably question for rsalveti actually)
[13:55] <ogra> it is updated before we buiuld the android package from it
[13:55] <ogra> (which produces all the img files)
[13:55] <Tassadar> then it should be fine
[13:56] <Tassadar> (I didn't even know you make package from it, I just build it like any other android repo)
[13:56] <ogra> (adding hammerhead as default to the package build is on the TODO btw)
[13:56] <ogra> so in the future you can just apt-get ine binary package and fish the ready made img files out of /usr/lib/android
[13:57] <ogra> s/ine/install/
[13:58] <Tassadar> hm, weird, I don't see that latest change in android package in that repo
[13:59] <Tassadar> should be https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=aosp/platform/hardware/qcom/audio.git;a=summary , but last change to that repo was 2 months ago
[14:01] <ogra> Tswell, wait for rsalveti,, he should be able to tell you
[14:01] <ogra> gerrit isnt really usable if you want to find a branch :(
[14:02] <Tassadar> hm, yeah. repo sync didn't pull anything new either though
[14:03] <ogra> oh
[14:03] <Tassadar> dedo93: I'm not sure that you can - I don't thing that the more "advanced" wifi options are in yet
[14:03] <ogra> i see what goes on here
[14:04] <ogra> its a packaging patch
[14:04] <ogra> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/167951517/android_20140224-0005-0ubuntu1_20140224-0005-0ubuntu2.diff.gz
[14:04] <dedo93> thank you Tassadar
[14:04] <Tassadar> why do you have both patches in packages and repo with custom changes Oo
[14:06] <Tassadar> guess I'll use that package then
[14:06] <ogra> i guess he couldnt find someone for a gerrit review
[14:06] <ogra> that was faster
[14:09] <rsalveti> morning
[14:09] <rsalveti> Tassadar: repo init -u https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/p/aosp/platform/manifest.git -b phablet-4.4.2_r1
[14:09] <Tassadar> that's what I did, but not everything's in there aparently
[14:10] <rsalveti> Tassadar: it should, it's also what I use to build hammerhead
[14:10] <rsalveti> what do you think we're missing in there?
[14:10] <Tassadar> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/167951517/android_20140224-0005-0ubuntu1_20140224-0005-0ubuntu2.diff.gz
[14:10] <rsalveti> Tassadar: the sound only working for the first call is hopefully fixed with the fix I pushed for nexus 4 today
[14:11] <Tassadar> well it's a patch for https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=aosp/platform/hardware/qcom/audio.git;a=summary , but it isn't in the repo
[14:11] <rsalveti> we do remove a bunch of stuff from the tarball
[14:11] <rsalveti> Tassadar: oh, right, not yet
[14:12] <rsalveti> sorry, pushed as a package patch and went to sleep
[14:12] <ogra> yeah, you did it as a package patch
[14:12] <rsalveti> let me propose that right now
[14:12] <Tassadar> that's what I wanted to know) so it'll get in there?
[14:12] <ogra> rsalveti, point me to it and i'll approve
[14:12] <Tassadar> no hurry, I just don't want to be building something wrong for
[14:12] <rsalveti> yeah, it's just that we didn't have anyone to review :-)
[14:12] <rsalveti> ogra: awesome
[14:12] <ogra> seems popey is already running an image with it included
[14:12] <ogra> havent heard bad stuff from him yet
[14:13] <popey> hm?
[14:13] <ogra> popey, 212
[14:13] <ogra> do calls work ?
[14:13] <didrocks> (he told yes already :p)
[14:13] <ogra> (especially the second and subsequent ones)
[14:13] <didrocks> (spoiler alert ;))
[14:14] <rsalveti> Tassadar: ogra: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/c/190/
[14:14] <rsalveti> didrocks: :P
[14:15] <ogra> rsalveti, done
[14:15] <ogra> (i think ... that UI is confusing)
[14:16] <Tassadar> it has +2, but isn't merged yet
[14:17] <rsalveti> in theory that would be enough
[14:17] <rsalveti> ogra: did you click at publish and submit?
[14:17] <ogra> right
[14:17] <ogra> no ...
[14:18] <ogra> there is only "Publish Comments"
[14:18] <rsalveti> ogra: only? hm, let me check
[14:18] <ogra> i have the list of radiobuttons where i selected +2 and a comment field
[14:19] <ogra> and that button underneath
[14:19] <rsalveti> yeah, your user has the authority and such
[14:20] <rsalveti> just merged, not sure why that wasn't available for you
[14:20] <ogra> weird
[14:20] <rsalveti> will try to track that down later
[14:20] <Tassadar> thank you, gonna start build now :)
[14:21] <ogra> dont forget to pull the patch from the package with the next upload ;)
[14:21] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:21] <rsalveti> will get to your other recovery patch as well in a bit
[14:21] <ogra> ah, sweet
[14:21] <ogra> then i can close the bug :)
[14:22] <dedo93> sorry, is there a default password for root?
[14:22] <ogra> no
[14:22] <Tassadar> dedo93: ubuntu doesn't have root, use sudo - password is "phablet" I think
[14:22] <ogra> root is locked on ubuntu systems, use sudo
[14:22] <rsalveti> Saviq: just initializing m_distance is enough to fix 1285385?
[14:23] <dedo93> I'll try it, thanks
[14:23] <ogra> or use adb ... that drops you in the (locked) root account)
[14:23] <rsalveti> bug 1285385
[14:23] <Saviq> rsalveti, yeah
[14:23] <rsalveti> wtf haha
[14:23] <Saviq> rsalveti, after that we didn't have it crash once
[14:23] <rsalveti> Saviq: wonder if that also fixes our issue with the 5.0 stack
[14:23] <ogra> rsalveti, sssh
[14:23] <Saviq> rsalveti, it actually looks like it dow
[14:23] <Saviq> does
[14:23] <dedo93> in adb i'm root :)
[14:23] <ogra> now that everyone works oon 5.2 landing
[14:23] <ogra> dedo93, yes, thats what i said (will change soon)
[14:23] <rsalveti> right, but I'd love to have a green dashboard
[14:24] <ogra> yeah
[14:24] <ogra> as long as we dont roll back the plans for 5.2
[14:24] <ogra> whicle the siatuation is awful it got us some speed-up :)
[14:24] <rsalveti> no
[14:24] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:24] <rsalveti> will give it a try with 5.0 to see
[14:28] <rsalveti> ogra: is 212 the latest with the pulse fix?
[14:28] <ogra> yep
[14:28] <rsalveti> awesome
[14:29] <rsalveti> ogra: the fun part of this bug is that only the start output stream path works fine, stop is broken :-)
[14:29] <ogra> silly
[14:29] <rsalveti> but that's fine for android because the stream stays open because of audioflinger
[14:29] <rsalveti> so it's never stopped/released
[14:29] <rsalveti> that's why it's not a bug there
[14:29] <ogra> how do they make that handle battery usage ?
[14:30] <ogra> do they power down while having the stream open ?
[14:30] <rsalveti> I think they power it down
[14:30] <ogra> wow
[14:30] <ogra> intresting that it survives that
[14:30] <rsalveti> but you don't need to allocate the stream again
[14:30] <Tassadar> hm, I'll have to wait for 213 with that, I can't release a new image becaseu the device part has changed, because it would screw up the version numbers :/
[14:30] <rsalveti> new image should happen soon
[14:30] <didrocks> is that linked to the "ok google" always listening?
[14:31] <Tassadar> yeah, I saw you're building 3 images a day now
[14:31] <ogra> didrocks, try it on your ubuntu touch phone :)
[14:31] <didrocks> yeah, I'm waiting for unity8 for next one
[14:31] <didrocks> ogra: ahah :)
[14:31] <ogra> if it wakes up when you say "ok google" it is ;)
[14:31] <didrocks> which should let us getting current results first :p
[14:31] <barry> xnox: what's the status of doing system image updates in the emulator?
[14:32] <rsalveti> yeah, voice call working fine :-)
[14:32] <ogra> :)
[14:35] <xnox> barry: good question. so generic is now published as a proper device, which matches the getprop. so things should be easier. I should go though your bugs again =)
[14:36] <barry> xnox: that would be great.  we're discussing testing system image updates and it would be great to have emulator support
[14:36] <xnox> barry: right.
[14:38] <rsalveti> yeah, and we don't need to customize the emulator image much with 4.4.2
[14:38] <rsalveti> I believe with the x86 one I just added the network file, and that was all
[14:54] <kenvandine> bfiller, i've updated the ubuntu-ui-extras MP
[14:56] <bfiller> kenvandine: thanks, I'll test it
[15:33] <Elleo> 21
[15:33] <Elleo> oops
[15:46] <bfiller> mardy, Laney: any update on getting that new syncevolution uploaded? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syncevolution/+bug/1285583
[15:47] <Laney> I didn't look yet
[15:47] <Laney> Is it urgent?
[15:47] <bfiller> Laney: not urgent for today but early next week it will become more so
[15:51] <Laney> I'll look at outstanding FFes soon
[16:19] <ogra> stgraber, can wemake system-image somehow do the imports from cdimage in chunks (i.e. the fully supported arches first, then the others), with the recent additional arches s-i takes nearly 2h to import
[16:21] <mpt> Someday I will figure out how to power on my Ubuntu Phone without reflashing it
[16:22] <popey> mpt: hold power button down?
[16:22] <ogra> did you notice the small button on the top right side ?
[16:22] <ogra> press it :)
[16:22] <mpt> popey, ogra: That just shows a battery icon for a couple of seconds, then returns to a black screen
[16:22] <mpt> Always has.
[16:22] <popey> battery is dead
[16:22] <popey> charge it
[16:22] <ogra> mpt, mako ?
[16:22] <mpt> It’s been fully charged for days.
[16:22] <ogra> (N4)
[16:22] <popey> from what charger?
[16:22] <popey> usb port on laptop?
[16:23] <ogra> you need a proper wall charger
[16:23] <popey> ya
[16:23] <mpt> popey, an HTC mains charger
[16:23] <ogra> usb ports only provide 500mA
[16:23] <popey> hold power for longer
[16:23] <ogra> you need something around 1.5-2A to properly charge
[16:23] <mpt> Hehe
[16:23] <ogra> right, on the N4 just hold power long enough
[16:23] <ogra> it will start eventually
[16:23] <mpt> The graph in System Settings five minutes ago showed that it was fully charged. I’m pretty sure it’s fully charged.
[16:24] <stgraber> ogra: not easily no, though even if we could, it wouldn't save you much as device tarballs only take a small fraction of the total time and only happen if the android package changed in between
[16:24] <ogra> on the maguro (galaxy nexus) that doesnt work due to hardware being weird
[16:24] <ogra> stgraber, well, i assume the diff creation for each device takes so long
[16:25] <mpt> ogra, I held it down for about 30 seconds. As soon as I released it, I got the fully-charged-battery icon, then a black screen
[16:25] <stgraber> ogra: doubtful, though we'd need more metrics to check. Most of the diffing time is spend iterating through all the files in the tarball, since we only have 3 files in a device tarball, it should be pretty quick
[16:26] <barry> w00t!  silo landing 10 hit the archive.  the train is back on the rails
[16:27]  * mpt uses adb reboot
[16:27] <Laney> chugga chugga
[16:27] <barry> chugga chugga woot woot
[16:27] <barry> stgraber: let's see if the managed branch gets updated
[16:28] <stgraber> ogra: I've changed the crontab to run import-images in very very verbose mode by default and redirect the output to a log dir so we can see what's happening exactly
[16:29] <ogra> stgraber, thanks
[16:29] <stgraber> ogra: the only problem with that is that we'll get one log every 5 minutes so I'll have to remember to wipe all the small (no change) ones
[16:31] <xnox> barry: Wheee!
[16:31] <stgraber> ogra: if I had to bet, I'd bet that the customized channels are causing the slowness as they have rather massive tarballs and all trigger whenever the main channel is updated
[16:32] <ogra> stgraber, do they run alongside when a normal image is published ?
[16:32] <stgraber> ogra: the problem is that we can't really work around this because the rsync from the web server is done async so we'd get corruption on the public server if we were to trigger before everything is done publishing
[16:32] <ogra> aww
[16:33] <stgraber> if the update was syncronous, I could trigger it at the end of each channel when I know our fs state is consistent but that's not a possibility with the way IS' infrastructure works
[16:33] <ogra> well, i hope we can drop goldfish and maguro soon
[16:33] <ogra> that should give us some time back
[16:33] <stgraber> that shouldn't give us anything actually
[16:33] <stgraber> because those use the same rootfs as the rest and don't publish new device tarballs
[16:33] <stgraber> so they effectively take around 1s to publish
[16:33] <ogra> arent custom images built for all supported arches ?
[16:34] <stgraber> no, the custom tarball is per-channel
[16:34] <ogra> maguro is definitely still in that list ...
[16:34] <ogra> ah, k
[16:34] <stgraber> otherwise we'd be generating diffs all day long ;)
[16:34] <ogra> right :)
[16:35] <stgraber> one trick we could do, but community members would probably hate us for it is to use uncompressed rootfs from the armhf builder
[16:35] <stgraber> that'd save us quite a few minutes of compress time on the calxeda box, not be much slower to transfer (since we have a gigabit link) and save us time uncompressing again on nusakan
[16:38] <ogra> yeah not sure thats a good idea
[16:39] <ogra> stgraber, i dont like the idea to work around cdimages find-live-filesystem ... will become awful to keep in sync if there are changes
[17:29] <Laney> barry: check your trunk to see if that worked
[17:51] <barry> Laney: afaict, it looks good, thanks
[17:52] <Laney> best train evar
[17:59] <mhall119> Mirv: ping
[18:35] <NEED> hey is there anyway to force update for ubuntu touch via the terminal?
[18:38] <NEED> how can I connect my Nexus 4 to wifi? I cant seem to to it since I installed Ubuntu Touch
[18:40] <ogra> NEED, did it run android 4.4 before ?
[18:40] <NEED> yeah I think so
[18:41] <ogra> NEED, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Android4.4Radio (ignore that it is for dual boot, the issue is the same)
[18:41] <NEED> okay thanks I'll have a look :)
[18:42] <ogra> doing an update on the terminal is done via system-image-cli
[18:43] <ogra> (add -v if you want it to print any output)
[18:47] <bfiller> rsalveti: don't know if you know about this one.. speakerphone volume on N4 now is super low
[18:47] <bfiller> even at max volume
[18:48] <ogra> bfiller, any idea since when ?
[18:48] <ogra> we had two different pulse changes and the switch to android 4.4 the last days
[18:49] <bfiller> ogra: I only noticed it today but haven't been testing that much since 4.4.2
[18:49] <pmcgowan> bfiller, I used speaker yesterday and it was fine
[18:49] <ogra> what images are you two on ?
[18:49] <pmcgowan> I had 210, just loaded 212
[18:50] <bfiller> ogra: 212
[18:50] <pmcgowan> trying
[18:50] <ogra> 210 had one pulse fix http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140227.changes
[18:50] <bfiller> ogra: but also added stuff from silo 4 to test, so hoping not related to that
[18:50] <ogra> and 212 the next one ;) http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140228.1.changes
[18:51] <ogra> pmcgowan, so please check if it is still good for you on 212
[18:51] <pmcgowan> not good
[18:51] <ogra> aha
[18:51] <ogra> rsalveti, ^^^
[18:51] <ogra> there were changes to the audio HAL going with these fixes
[18:52] <pmcgowan> bfiller, good catch
[18:52] <bfiller> pmcgowan: glad it wasn't our change :)
[18:53] <bfiller> pmcgowan: btw, the fixes in silo-004 are really awesome. gets rid of all the wonkiness and flashing of screens when answer calls
[18:53] <pmcgowan> ah cool cant wait
[18:53] <bfiller> pmcgowan: goes directly to live call view instead of first showing dialer
[18:53] <pmcgowan> right
[18:54] <pmcgowan> davmor2, wow that was fast
[18:56] <davmor2> pmcgowan: Ah no that was just the list from the old page that I updated from todays image
[19:14] <davmor2> pmcgowan: can you actually switch calls or is it just the on hold that is implemented?
[19:15] <pmcgowan> davmor2, bfiller_afk tells me you can
[19:15] <pmcgowan> I have not tried
[19:15] <pmcgowan> I did use hold
[19:15] <davmor2> pmcgowan: yeah I test on hold I'll try it tomorrow
[19:16] <davmor2> Monday even
[19:17] <davmor2> I keep thinking it is thursday for some reason :)
[19:18] <pmcgowan> I just figured you work all weekend
[19:24] <davmor2> pmcgowan: shhh my wife might figure out that I'm testing the phone rather than just tatting with it :)
[19:24] <pmcgowan> davmor2, careful or she'll think its your girlfriend
[19:24] <davmor2> pmcgowan, popey: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE#gid=1 right so that is as complete as I can make it now
[19:26] <davmor2> pmcgowan, popey: if you can give it a quick review then I think we can lose the old one.
[19:28] <pmcgowan> davmor2, you probably want to keep some of the old lines, I just meant to provide additional ones
[19:30] <davmor2> pmcgowan: meh okay I thought the bulk of the were covered I'll review the 2 on Monday and see which can be merged and which need to be kept from the old list then
[19:30] <pmcgowan> ok
[19:33] <popey> pmcgowan: added proxy support, do you know if that's on the roadmap?
[19:34] <pmcgowan> popey, what is that?
[19:34] <pmcgowan> sounds like something from the 70s
[19:34] <popey> pmcgowan: the thing you laughed at when we were on the sprint and said "people still use that!?"
[19:34] <popey> yes, that :D
[19:34] <pmcgowan> at least I'm consistent
[19:34] <popey> indeed
[19:35] <pmcgowan> no one has mentioned it
[19:35] <pmcgowan> where would I need that again?
[19:35] <popey> inside corporate networks
[19:35] <popey> e.g. every company I've worked at in the last 20 years
[19:36] <popey> also, PAC support which goes along with it
[19:36] <popey> (the magic which autoconfigures a browser to use proxy for external sites and avoid the proxy for intranet or partner sites)
[19:39] <popey> oh, also ☻
[19:39] <popey> support for captive portals
[19:39] <popey> (hotel wifi, which requires a login before going online. android and ios do that nicely)
[19:42] <davmor2> popey: hell yes that a need after trying to connect at the airport
[19:43] <popey> I find myself saying maguro out loud in the same way ogra says it.
[19:43] <popey> There's something about the way he says it.
[19:43] <ogra> lol
[19:44] <popey> ☻
[19:44] <davmor2> popey: it's the die in flames bit ogra adds to the end that makes me smile :)
[19:44] <popey> the gutteral G
[19:44] <popey> haha
[19:44] <popey> pmcgowan: davmor2 have merged both sheets completely now. happy to delete the first one?
[19:45] <pmcgowan> popey, delete the new, keep the old
[19:45] <popey> wait, what?
[19:45] <pmcgowan> popey, dont change the url
[19:45] <popey> oh, ok.
[19:47] <popey> done
[19:47] <popey> tested http://bit.ly/18kIrhM in a new browser and it still works
[19:49] <popey> https://bitly.com/18kIrhM+ (note the plus) is an interesting URL showing how many people click that link in the topic over the last year or so
[19:49] <popey> average of about 5 people a day
[19:50] <rsalveti> bfiller_afk: pmcgowan: yeah, got that issue when testing it today as well, the first call is fine
[19:50] <davmor2> popey: I wonder how many are anonymous :)
[19:50] <rsalveti> once it's stopped, the hal sets up the mixer again
[19:50] <popey> davmor2: most
[19:50] <rsalveti> and decrease the output volume
[19:50] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, seemed bad on the first call here
[19:51] <rsalveti> bfiller_afk: mind opening a bug for it?
[19:51] <pmcgowan> I only made one after upgrading
[19:51] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: first call is fine
[19:51] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, calin me a liar?
[19:51] <pmcgowan> ;)
[19:51] <rsalveti> it might have failed or something, and then used the shutdown path in pulse
[19:51] <rsalveti> reboot and try again
[19:51] <popey> I see pmcgowan has "that friday feeling"
[19:51] <pmcgowan> indeed
[19:51] <pmcgowan> popey, I am going to make some of the wip to mostly works
[19:52] <popey> knock yourself out
[19:53] <pmcgowan> popey, gee thanks
[19:53] <pmcgowan> and we should rename haptics to vibration
[19:53] <pmcgowan> I think
[19:53] <popey> Oh, that reminds me
[19:53] <popey> can we be more selective how we trigger haptics^W vibration?
[19:53] <popey> or is it "all or nothing"?
[19:54] <popey> the reason I ask is that there's a vibrate when you put a call on hold and when you come out.
[19:54] <davmor2> popey: I thought they had turned it down doesn't seem as strong as it was
[19:54] <popey> the person on the other end hears the motor buzz when you come out of on hold, and it's a touch disconcerting
[19:55] <popey> right, less strong, but happens with every press
[19:55] <pmcgowan> popey, good question, and I agree
[19:55] <davmor2> popey: except the keyboard where you expect it :)
[19:55] <popey> yeah, I'd be happy with it _only_ happening in maliit
[19:56] <popey> i dont need haptic feedback when i flip a switch, but I do need to to know my hunt-and-peck typing has registered a keypress
[19:56] <davmor2> Right I'm EOW catch you all on Monday where I'll merge some of the duped rows
[19:56] <popey> enjoy weekend davmor2
[19:57] <davmor2> popey: you too
[19:58] <popey> \o/ curry
[20:07] <Beldar> .
[20:22] <bfiller> rsalveti: still need a bug for the speakerphone issue?
[20:22] <rsalveti> bfiller: yes, please
[20:22] <bfiller> rsalveti: pulseaudio?
[20:22] <rsalveti> bfiller: android
[20:22] <bfiller> ok
[20:25] <Stubenhocker> hi! :3
[20:25] <bfiller> rsalveti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1286322
[20:26] <rsalveti> bfiller: thanks
[20:28] <Akiva-Mobile> hey i am playing around with an earlier version of touch on my nook
[20:29] <Akiva-Mobile> and I can't for the life of me find the external sd card
[20:29] <Akiva-Mobile> any hints on where to look?
[20:30] <Stubenhocker> Dunno...
[20:31] <Akiva-Mobile> like, its not in /mount
[20:31] <Akiva-Mobile> thats all I can say
[20:35] <frecel> Akiva-Mobile: does it mount automatically?
[20:38] <Akiva-Mobile> frecel: how can I tell?
[20:40] <Akiva-Mobile> atm, I can't get wifi on this fellow, and so I am trying to access files via the external sd
[20:41] <frecel> it should show up in /mnt
[20:42] <toninhopj> Algum brasileiro?
[20:47] <frecel> Akiva-Mobile: I would install usbutils and pciutils packages and check if the system can even see your card reader if there is nothing in /mnt
[20:47] <frecel> although pciutils will probably not work
[21:01] <Akiva-Mobile> im upgrading from raring to saucy
[21:01] <Akiva-Mobile> will see if that helps
[21:07] <bfiller> xnox: is this MR still applicable? https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/clean-home/+merge/193979
[21:11] <xnox> bfiller: i can re-test with a non-writable home
[21:13] <bfiller> xnox: ok - seems like all the tests have been passing in CI so wasn't sure if this an issue still
[21:23] <xnox> bfiller: yeah, it's an issue, testsuite writes outside of build directory... into $HOME, thus affecting environment on reruns and developer machines...
[21:23] <bfiller> xnox: I'll get it released then, it still merges with latest trunk?
[21:28] <trepidaciousMBR> When I run ubuntu-device-flash, it just sits there doing nothing - can't see any network activity, so it can't be downloading anything, no output printed. Any ideas?
[21:29] <xnox> bfiller: 4 months later, no it doesn't. merged fresh trunk into it.
[21:29] <xnox> bfiller: pushed branch update.
[21:30] <bfiller> xnox: thanks
[21:32] <pmcgowan> trepidaciousMBR, what command line did you use?
[21:32] <trepidaciousMBR> ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap
[21:33] <pmcgowan> trepidaciousMBR, sigh, the wiki page is wrong, we are updating it asap
[21:33] <trepidaciousMBR> pmcgowan: Ah, doh ;)
[21:34] <pmcgowan> do ubuntu-device-flash -channel=devel -bootstrap=true
[21:34] <pmcgowan> and if its first time reboot to bootloader
[21:34] <pmcgowan> or actually to use bootstrap, need to be in bootloader
[21:34] <pmcgowan> popey, !!!
[21:36] <trepidaciousMBR> pmcgowan: Green robot with "start" arrow thing?
[21:36] <Laney> you have to adb reboot bootloader otherwise it sits there saying nothing forever
[21:37] <pmcgowan> trepidaciousMBR, yes
[21:38] <trepidaciousMBR> Ah, now that is doing something
[21:39] <trepidaciousMBR> Thanks :)
[21:44] <pmcgowan> trepidaciousMBR, good, wiki updated
[21:54] <Beldar> .
[21:54] <robert1> hi guys, i think i have a problem, since i've switched to trusty with "adb shell system-image-cli --channel trusty -b 0 -v" my keyboard in terminal-app cannot hit "Enter" and don't recieve updates, i have 14.04 (r194), update management say "Software is up to date", what should i do?
[21:57] <nhaines> robert1: this is fixed in image 200 or 202.
[22:01] <pmcgowan> robert1, 194 is the last promoted image
[22:01] <pmcgowan> we are a bit stuck the last week or so
[22:02] <popey> pmcgowan: blimey, that wiki page is biting us more often than I thought. mwc and app showdown are pushing more people here I guess
[22:02] <pmcgowan> popey, I just fixed a bunch of stuff
[22:02] <pmcgowan> you can check me
[22:03] <popey> ok
[22:03] <popey> will do
[22:08] <robert1_> sorry my chat-program has problems
[22:10] <robert1_> hi guys, i think i have a problem, since i've switched to trusty with "adb shell system-image-cli --channel trusty -b 0 -v" my keyboard in terminal-app cannot hit "Enter" and don't recieve updates, i have 14.04 (r194), update management say "Software is up to date", what should i do?
[22:10] <robert1_> should i try "ubuntu-device-flash -channel=trusty"?
[22:11] <robert1_> sorry my chat-client has problems, if someone write to me, i have not recieve something
[22:11] <ogra> robert1_, known bug, was just fixed yesterday ... but there was no image promoted to the trusty channel yet
[22:12] <ogra> robert1_, you can try to uninstall/reinstall the terminal app to get the new version
[22:12] <robert1_> ogra: hi, thanks for info
[22:15] <robert1_> ogra:  is revision 194 the newest since i have switched from saucy to trusty?
[22:15] <ogra> yes, 194 is the last promoted one
[22:15] <ogra> (the unpromoted builds are at 213 currently ... still not at a quality that we can promote though)
[22:16] <ogra> http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/ has the test overview
[22:24] <robert1_> ogra: how can i try to uninstall/reinstall the terminal app to get the new version? i have commands for installing click-packages but not shure if it helps for uninstall/reinstall. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7012935/
[22:24] <ogra> robert1_, uuuh
[22:25] <ogra> you dont need to make the system writable for installing click packages
[22:25] <ogra> robert1_, tap and hold the icon of the app
[22:26] <ogra> that gives you an uninstall option ...
[22:26] <ogra> uninstall it ... then search it with the search function, that should give you an install button ... install it ... launch it
[22:28] <robert1_> ogra: it was very easy, it works, thank you :-)
[22:28] <ogra> welcome :)
[22:41] <Akiva-Mobile> im trying to flash an image on my nook. Thus far, the only one that has ever worked, was an old raring version of the developers preview. The initial saucy image supposedly worked, but then went into an infinite boot cycle, and which was hard to debug. I can't find the saucy image that did work, but I am curious whether I am likely to see
[22:42] <Akiva-Mobile> more success if I use the current image.
[23:02] <gamble_> Hello
[23:08] <trepidaciousMBR> Well it's flashed
[23:09] <trepidaciousMBR> Somewhat bewildering so far :)
[23:10] <Akiva-Mobile> when ubuntu touch gets rolling, will it have rolling updates?
[23:10] <Akiva-Mobile> for os files?
[23:17] <Akiva-Mobile> ah whenever I press the power button, the backlight turns on
[23:17] <Akiva-Mobile> but I see nothing else