[00:03] <waf> haha, yeah. what are you using for vertical / horizontal splitting?
[00:04] <mrgoodcat> v and h
[00:06] <waf> oh. doesn't "h" conflict with the vim keys?
[00:06] <mrgoodcat> er no sry v and g
[00:09] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: your program is very difficult to install on arch
[00:09] <waf> i think i got it running ok. what did you run into?
[00:09] <snap-l> mrgoodcat: It makes some assumptions about your environment
[00:10] <mrgoodcat> make is failing on make run
[00:10] <waf> yeah, some paths are different, and the package names of course have to change
[00:10] <mrgoodcat> i had to manually find a bunch of deps too
[00:10] <mrgoodcat> do you remember what you changed?
[00:11] <waf> no, this was ages ago. what's the error?
[00:12] <mrgoodcat> https://gist.github.com/dyladan/9262529
[00:14] <mrgoodcat> i don't even know why i'm still trying. i have an ubuntu box i can install it on
[00:15] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: it should just be a matter of finding the right headers to have installed
[00:16] <rick_h_> what -dev packages to replace the ones required in sysdeps
[00:16] <mrgoodcat> arch doesn't have -dev packages
[00:16] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: do you have a bin/python?
[00:16] <mrgoodcat> i have all headers
[00:16] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: ok, so the make install completed successfuly?
[00:16] <mrgoodcat> you mean the virtualenv folder?
[00:16] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: you have a bin directory with python/pip/etc?
[00:16] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: and it's not py3 compat
[00:17] <mrgoodcat> oh holy fuck
[00:17] <rick_h_> so you'll have to create the virtualenv with py2
[00:17] <mrgoodcat> i skipped make install
[00:17] <rick_h_> yea, that won't work
[00:17] <rick_h_> and for arch you might have to tweak that venv step in make to make a py2 venv
[00:18] <mrgoodcat> python setup.py egg_info failed in /root/bookie/build/BeautifulSoup
[00:18] <rick_h_>  /root?!
[00:18] <rick_h_> python --version
[00:18] <mrgoodcat> .3.4
[00:18] <mrgoodcat> 3.3.4
[00:18] <rick_h_> right, read the lines I've been writing here the last 2min :)
[00:19] <mrgoodcat> how do you make a py2 venv?
[00:19] <waf> mrgoodcat: it's a package in the repos
[00:19] <mrgoodcat> i have virtualenv
[00:19] <waf> the py3 version
[00:19] <waf> you need the py2 version
[00:19] <rick_h_> change the command in the make file that creates the venv (venv) to be called with py2
[00:19] <mrgoodcat> got it
[00:19] <mrgoodcat> ok
[00:20] <rick_h_> if you're up for helping make it more compat with arch I'll help with that. It is very ubuntu specific, but I'm not sure of easy tricks to make it completely work across other distros/python
[00:21] <mrgoodcat> 2.7.6 now
[00:21] <rick_h_> oh, I know
[00:21] <rick_h_> you have to set the PY= and such before the make command
[00:22] <rick_h_> so make virtualenv a variable instead of hard coded as it is now
[00:23] <rick_h_> and then you can VENV=/usr/bin/virtualenv-2.7.6 make install
[00:24] <mrgoodcat> too late. already installed it on ubuntu instead
[00:24] <mrgoodcat> it was way easier
[00:24] <rick_h_> lol
[00:24] <mrgoodcat> and now dinner
[00:24] <rick_h_> ok, well some CHC let's get together and update it :)
[00:25] <mrgoodcat> we'll make it arch compat
[00:25] <rick_h_> rgr
[00:25] <mrgoodcat> i already made a make archdeps
[00:25] <mrgoodcat> instead of sysdeps
[00:25] <rick_h_> heh k
[00:25] <rick_h_> again DEPS=archdeps VENV=... makeinstall
[00:26] <rick_h_> we can build a one liner to make it work
[00:26] <mrgoodcat> ok
[00:27] <rick_h_> Makefile crash course woot!
[00:28] <mrgoodcat> is the default ubuntu python 2.7?
[00:29] <rick_h_> yes
[00:30] <mrgoodcat> so you can change the makefile to call python2.7 instead of python and it will work the same way.
[00:30] <mrgoodcat> ls -la /usr/bin/python                       ──(Thu,Feb27)─┘
[00:30] <mrgoodcat> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 19 14:29 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
[00:31] <mrgoodcat> explicitly state version. that way you're covered in case some future version of ubuntu updates the default python
[00:32] <rick_h_> yea
[00:32] <mrgoodcat> or is there some reason not to?
[00:32] <rick_h_> not that I can think of off the top of my head
[00:32] <rick_h_> but want to investigate and make sure
[00:33] <mrgoodcat> right
[00:33] <mrgoodcat> i'll open an issue in github so we can collect thoughts
[00:33] <rick_h_> rgr
[00:41] <mrgoodcat> virtualenv --python=python2 .
[00:45] <mrgoodcat> if you click submit without selecting a file to upload for the import (stupid mistake i know) you get 502 bad gateway
[00:46] <waf> probably best to put that sort of thing in the github issue tracker.
[00:46] <mrgoodcat> i did
[02:01] <snap-l> yay. Finally upgraded my phone to Android 4.1.2
[02:04] <gamerchick02_> yay!
[02:07] <rick_h_> cool snap-l
[02:07] <rick_h_> oh, and welcome back to snap-l
[02:07] <rick_h_> freenode hate me or everyone?
[02:07] <snap-l> I had some network problems at home as well
[02:07] <snap-l> and was a the docs for physical
[02:08] <rick_h_> ah
[02:08] <gamerchick02> howdy snap-l. wow yeah, i got disconnected
[02:08] <gamerchick02> what's with freenode lately? seems... flakey.
[02:10] <snap-l> Trying to remember all of the things that I disabled prior
[02:10] <snap-l> seriously considering never buying another non-Google phone
[02:10] <waf> freenode is/was being hit by a ddos
[02:13] <gamerchick02> oh that's nice. :( thanks for the explanation, waf
[02:14] <rick_h_> snap-l: got 4.2.2 today
[02:14] <gamerchick02> i'm jellus
[02:16] <rick_h_> nothing big in it, but caught me by surprise
[02:16] <rick_h_> usually I'm hitting "check for updates" 500 times
[02:19] <snap-l> Yeah, I had to actually "do work" to make it happen
[02:19] <snap-l> installed a windows application
[02:21] <rick_h_> whoa
[02:25] <snap-l> Yeah, wasn't OTA>
[02:26] <rick_h_> ok, pull requests and emails done for the night
[02:26] <rick_h_> survive another day!
[02:33] <_stink_> hah
[02:40] <brousch> I'm trying to use dbus-python in a virtualenv and came across this https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55439
[02:50] <rick_h_> brousch: :(
[02:50] <rick_h_> stuff like that makes me cry
[02:59] <brousch> wow
[02:59] <brousch> Can't get that patch to work either
[02:59] <rick_h_> did you try the pure python alternative?
[02:59] <rick_h_> sounds promising
[03:01] <brousch> No, I need dbus-python to test this thing
[03:02] <rick_h_> gotcha
[03:02] <brousch> I guess I'll just enable system modules to test this
[03:28] <rick_h_> Current Conditions: -4.5F / -20.2C
[03:28] <rick_h_> ugh!
[03:49] <jrwren> anyone do daily/weekly/monthly lvm2 snapshots?
[03:56] <mrgoodcat> btrfs++
[03:57] <jrwren> no.
[03:57] <jrwren> btrfs--
[03:57] <jrwren> its terribad
[03:57] <mrgoodcat> y u no like?
[03:58] <mrgoodcat> there are performance issues in some use cases
[03:58] <jrwren> nope
[03:58] <jrwren> very slow
[04:01] <mrgoodcat> well what do you expect from an 8 year old filesystem?
[04:01] <mrgoodcat> its not even old enough to drive yet
[04:20] <jrwren> lol
[04:21] <mrgoodcat> seriously though
[04:21] <mrgoodcat> you can't expect it to be as mature as current gen filesystems
[04:22] <mrgoodcat> like ext4
[04:23] <mrgoodcat> it may be only 6 years old
[04:23] <mrgoodcat> but the original extended filesystem is older than i am
[04:23] <mrgoodcat> barely
[04:24] <mrgoodcat> better than zfs. "oh you have 64GB RAM in your computer? filesystem should take at least half"
[04:25] <mrgoodcat> or even worse: "you don't have 64 gigs of ram? disable half the features"
[12:17] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:21] <rick_h_> morning
[13:33] <snap-l> Good moring
[13:34] <snap-l> rick_h_: We're really going to have to talk about the support schedule for BOokie. Apparently we're not getting coverage overnight. ;)
[13:34] <rick_h_> morning
[13:34] <rick_h_> snap-l: lol
[13:34] <rick_h_> it was quiet wasn't it?
[13:34] <rick_h_> I got disconnected but didn't see a ton
[13:34] <brousch> snap-l: Thanks for volunteering for that shift
[13:34] <rick_h_> lol
[13:35] <snap-l> brousch: DOn't wait up. ;)
[13:36] <snap-l> How did we ever live before tethering phones?
[13:36] <brousch> More freely
[13:37] <rick_h_> I don't know, my wife is already asking if I should up my hotspot data cap for camping season so I can go get out to the campground and work the rest of the day while she finishes work and comes out later
[13:44] <jrwren> its friday
[13:45] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: i agree entirely. that is why i've lost all interest in brtfs and zfs
[13:45] <jrwren> tgif
[13:45] <jrwren> I did have an idea about a shim boot loader tiny OS that just gets ceph going, add all physical devices to ceph and then mount ceph block devs for everything else.
[13:45] <jrwren> that might be interesting
[14:49] <brousch> snap-l: Why are you snap-l today?
[14:52] <brousch> My body was actually happy to get on the ball today
[14:52] <brousch> I want to bounce!
[14:54] <snap-l> brousch: It's great with metal music
[14:54] <snap-l> I find myself bopping and headbanging.
[14:54] <snap-l> brb
[14:59] <cmaloney> I hope nobody submits a package called "requirements.txt" to pypi, or I'll be fucked.
[15:00] <rick_h_> lol, long running joke there
[15:00] <rick_h_> I think it's blacklisted for that reason, don't recall if they actually added that but talked about it
[15:01] <brousch> Definitely should on April 1
[15:01] <cmaloney> yeah, I think half the python community would be affected.
[15:21] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: ever thought about packaging bookie in a ppa?
[15:21] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yes, but have been working on a juju charm instead as a baby step and perhaps more useful long term.
[15:21] <rick_h_> https://github.com/bookieio/bookie-charm
[15:22] <mrgoodcat> oh cool
[15:22] <mrgoodcat> what is cups port? 631?
[15:23] <rick_h_> yes
[15:27] <mrgoodcat> apparently the user also has to be a member of lpadmin
[17:58] <wolfger> Ok, is this thing on now?
[17:59] <rick_h_> woot
[18:00] <wolfger> I'
[18:00] <wolfger> M
[18:00] <wolfger> Gah
[18:01] <wolfger> I'm having a waiting-on-my-delayed-flight party at the airport bar.
[18:02] <greg-g> I did that last night, only we (Rowan and I) were running down the moving walk ways repeatedly
[18:02] <greg-g> also, hello Michigan, I am in you
[18:02] <wolfger> greg-g: ++
[18:03] <wolfger> No moving walkways here
[18:05] <rick_h_> greg-g: moving walkways ftw
[18:05] <rick_h_> boy loves them
[18:05] <greg-g> yeah, and 4 hours in Chicago... not fun
[18:05] <wolfger> Who doesn't?
[18:05] <greg-g> we should have just rented a car when we got off the plane and we would have gotten here sooner
[18:06] <greg-g> might do that next time, just fly to chicago and rent a car
[18:06] <wolfger> So what are you back in town for?
[20:46] <rick_h_> lol of the day https://twitter.com/appcode/status/437896886649757696
[20:48] <greg-g>  haha
[21:37] <greg-g> so, with bzr, if I have ssh access to a remote server, I can just bzr push to some directory and it'll create a remote repo there for me, with git I have to ssh into it and mkdir and git init?
[21:41] <greg-g> (it can't be that hard, can it?)
[21:46] <jrwren> no, its true
[21:49] <greg-g> stupid