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Private_Usergood morning all05:06
Squirmmorning05:45
spekko_Hier is n nog n spekko05:47
spekko_in die channel05:47
* jabberwocky93 slaps spekko with a large trout05:52
Squirmlol05:53
Squirmjabberwocky93: I don't think spekko appreciated that :P05:53
jabberwocky93heh ^_^05:55
jabberwocky93another one bites the dust05:55
=== jabberwocky93 is now known as spekko
=== spekko is now known as jabberwocky93
=== spekko_ is now known as Spekko
Private_Usermorning Squirm06:02
Private_Userand morning spekko and jabberwocky9306:03
jabberwocky93morning oom Kilos?06:03
Private_Userwhois jabberwocky9306:04
Private_Useroops sorry06:04
Private_Usermy mistake, oom Kilos is not around06:05
Private_UserMaaz: seen Kilos06:05
MaazPrivate_User: Kilos was last seen 10 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-02-27 11:30:08 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-02-27 11:30:44 PST06:05
Spekkomorning Private_User06:05
=== Spekko is now known as Major_User
jabberwocky93yeah, thats why I thought you could be him06:05
Major_UserATEEENTION06:05
jabberwocky93morning Private_User06:06
Private_Useroh yeah cause that usually Kilos line06:06
Private_UserLOL06:06
jabberwocky93hehe06:06
jabberwocky93but just for the record I am I am https://launchpad.net/~willemdreyer06:06
jabberwocky93Maaz coffee on06:06
* Maaz flips the salt-timer06:06
Private_Userlol ok jabberwocky9306:06
Private_Usersorry was just curious because of the nick changing06:07
Major_UserNick changing ?06:08
jabberwocky93no worries, spekko didn't know why his client joined twice so I tried to help06:08
Private_Useryeah06:09
Private_User(7:59:41 AM) jabberwocky93 is now known as spekko06:09
Private_User(8:03:09 AM) spekko is now known as jabberwocky9306:09
Private_User8:03:11 AM) spekko_ is now known as Spekko06:09
jabberwocky93Major_User: I changed my nick earlier to spekko just after he quit, suspicious acivity06:09
jabberwocky93Maaz: seen highvoltage06:10
Maazjabberwocky93: highvoltage was last seen 1 month, 4 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 47 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-01-24 09:47:33 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-01-26 10:49:54 PST06:10
Major_Userjabberwocky93 who authorised this nick change !?06:10
MaazCoffee's ready for jabberwocky93!06:10
jabberwocky93thanks Maaz06:11
=== Major_User is now known as Spekko
jabberwocky93Major_User: spekko asked me06:11
Spekkowooops06:11
* jabberwocky93 slaps spekko with a large trout06:11
* jabberwocky93 slaps spekko with a large trout06:11
Private_UserMajor_User: Salute :|06:11
* Spekko torlolololol ol ololol lalalalaaaaaa06:11
=== Spekko is now known as Major_User
Major_UserPrivate_User at ease...06:12
=== Major_User is now known as Spekko
Private_User:D06:12
jabberwocky93spekko is new to IRC06:12
jabberwocky93I think he needs to find out what a kline is used for06:12
jabberwocky93^_^06:13
SpekkoI see..06:13
SpekkoNaah it's cool06:13
SpekkoI can take a hit.06:14
Private_Userlol @ jabberwocky93 I was klined the other day from Freenode, apparently I had some sort of coin client using IRC as a bootstrap or something06:14
Private_Userbut I have no idea what they speaking about06:14
Private_Userthey unbanned me and no issues since06:15
Private_Userso Spekko, how come you new to IRC?06:15
SpekkoPrivate_User I'm not new to IRC, jabebrwocky and I have just been friends for so long, that there's nothing left but hatred and insults.06:16
Private_UserLOL06:17
* inetpro gets confused with all the nick changes06:19
inetprogood mornings06:19
jabberwocky93Spekko is really ugly and stupid so he at lest makes it easy for me06:21
jabberwocky93coin client wow that sounds dodge, never read about that before06:21
jabberwocky93morning inetpro :06:21
Spekkowhut?06:25
SpekkoI'm pretty06:25
Private_Usergood morning inetpro06:25
Spekkookay06:25
Spekkojabberwocky93 is a meani, and he's a bully... shun him.06:26
Spekkoshuuuun him06:26
Private_Userinetpro: mee too so hence my reason for the whois mistake above06:26
Private_Userbrb06:27
SpekkoLet's just keep things dynamic06:33
Kiloshmm...06:49
KilosMaaz hi06:49
MaazHello Kilos06:49
inetprowb Kilos and hi06:49
Kilosmorning inetpro and others06:49
Kiloskonversation takes so long to show who is here06:49
inetproare we building a christmas tree with our words growing longer and longer?06:50
Kiloshuh?06:50
inetprotoemaar06:51
inetpro:-)06:51
Kilosshup06:51
inetproai!06:51
KilosMaaz shup06:51
MaazShup yourself oh noisy one06:51
Kilosgaan dit goed boetie?06:51
inetprogoed en self06:51
Kilosgoed dankie06:51
Kilos7 het my kde gedooi06:52
Kilosgrub>06:52
Kilosgrrr06:52
Kiloshey plustwo you still alive?06:53
Private_Usersup Kilos07:43
Kiloshi Private_User 07:43
Private_Userpeople missed you this morning, I think, mistook me for you, since I stole your line again...07:45
Private_Userlol07:45
Private_User:D07:45
Kiloshaha07:45
Kilosi was struggling with my kde. win7 killed the boot part07:45
Private_Userwhy and how did it do that?07:46
Kiloswas trying to run the win drive with the kde drive not like here and win07:47
Kilosthis is a 64bit 12.04 and sees win7 fine07:47
Kilosthe 32bit kde didnt07:47
Kiloscan only fix it tomorrow when i put new data bundle07:51
Private_Userits already the new month, damn time is flying by07:51
Kilosyip we get old fast07:52
jabberwocky93morning Kilos07:53
Kiloshi jabberwocky93 07:53
KilosSpekko came with you hey?07:53
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy :-)07:54
jabberwocky93yeah07:56
Kiloscool ill member that now07:56
Spekkohmm ?07:58
Kiloshi Spekko 07:58
Spekkohello Kilos07:58
jabberwocky93question was directed at me07:58
Kiloslol07:58
Spekkois there maybe a command on Linux, that I can type in, that gives idiots siezures?07:58
SpekkoLike targeted specifically at people with an I.Q lower than 10007:59
Spekko$ sudo sieze -min 10007:59
Spekkoor something07:59
Kiloshahaha07:59
charl_good morning07:59
charl_Maaz: coffee on07:59
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:59
Kiloshi charl_ 08:00
KilosMaaz coffee please08:00
MaazKilos: Alrighty08:00
charl_hi Kilos 08:01
charl_i'm busy testing trusty right now but it's a disaster08:01
charl_they have a lot to fix up in the next two months08:01
charl_i am a bit surprised considering that it's an LTS release08:01
charl_i have a feeling canonical is trying to push too many features instead of focusing on stability and reliablity08:01
Kilosit will be fix in time08:02
charl_the latter of course being two things that gnu/linux has always been known for08:02
Kilosi want the new kubuntu08:02
charl_well i hope so but right now it's looking pretty bad08:02
charl_you could probably just install the kubuntu-desktop package on it... maybe i will try it08:02
Kilosthere is a channel where you can watch them doing the fixing i think08:03
charl_some development channel ?08:03
Kilosi want to try keep kde pure08:03
Kilosya08:03
Kilosi forget what it was called08:03
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!08:03
charl_well there are at least 200 mb of updates in a single day08:03
Kilosmaybe #ubuntu-dev08:03
charl_i guess they are actively busy08:03
charl_no that isn't it, they only have one person there08:04
Kilosthey rev the last week08:04
charl_Maaz: thanks08:04
Maazcharl_: Sure08:04
Kilosoh my08:04
Kilosask the weed he will know08:04
KilosMaaz ty08:04
MaazYou are welcome Kilos08:04
charl_i have an irritating bug that i want fixed08:04
Kilosor ask deve08:05
charl_i use bitlbee with libpurple and sipe08:05
charl_the version of sipe on debian stable is constantly trying to connect to some group chat user that doesn't exist on my domain08:05
charl_i am hoping it is fixed in the new version, so i want to check on trusty08:05
Kilosyou got the daily build thing08:06
Kilos?08:06
charl_yes08:06
Kilosthen make bug reports and theyll sort it08:06
charl_yeah that's the idea08:06
charl_i got i3 running under trusty now and it seems to be working great08:07
charl_unity is not at all usable08:07
charl_i am busy installing kubuntu-desktop now08:07
Kilosi think they rely on bug reports to let everyone help find the bugs08:07
charl_that's not a bad thing, that's why i'm testing now08:07
charl_if this bug of mine isn't fixed i want to submit it under launchpad08:08
charl_and hope it gets in before the release08:08
Kilosdrussell am i right?08:08
Kilosall bug reports go there i think08:08
charl_yes08:08
Kilosthere is a certain way of reporting bugs08:08
Kilosauto thing08:08
charl_yeah i don't like using that, it collects data from my machine and sends that08:09
charl_i don't know how much it sends or what it sends08:09
charl_for all that i know it could be sending memory dumps containing passwords and other crap08:09
Kilosthats what they need to see whats causing the bug man08:09
Kilosno they not crooks08:09
charl_well i'm a programmer myself and i'm doubtful about how good those automated tools can be08:10
charl_but then again i mostly work in java and java has this thing called stack traces08:10
Kilosthey helped me lekker with 12.04 and the nm bug08:10
charl_that's generally quite safe and good to send08:10
charl_the nm bug ?08:10
Kilosnetwork manager didnt auto connect once modem seen and08:11
charl_ah08:11
Kilosdidnt see modem in the beginning08:11
Kilosthey mailed me scripts to add08:11
charl_nice08:12
Kilosvery helpful peeps08:12
charl_although, they should put all of that info on the wiki instead08:12
charl_*instead08:12
charl_then other people can also use it08:12
Kilosthey then work on the fixes so it comes in next update08:12
charl_ah ok that's good08:13
charl_haha logged into kde and i get the debian background08:13
charl_they probably ported the packages over across from debian08:13
charl_kde 4.12.2 looking good08:14
charl_oxygen also looking good08:14
ThatGraemeGuyhey08:15
charl_ah here's the bug i was having earlier: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/105516608:15
ThatGraemeGuy/dev/sdb1 on /media/graeme/1TB type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)08:15
Kilosthats my next iso download, 64bit kubuntu08:15
ThatGraemeGuyanyone know where those mount options are defined, i want to add one08:15
charl_it's an old one08:15
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: sorry what? you mean fstab?08:15
ThatGraemeGuyno, when i plug in a usb drive and mount it, those mount options are applied automagically08:16
ThatGraemeGuythey must be defined somewhere08:16
charl_oh the mount options, no idea08:16
Kiloswhats on the usb drive?08:16
ThatGraemeGuystuff08:17
charl_i don't auto mount anything08:17
ThatGraemeGuynot really relevant08:17
Kiloschown it08:17
Kiloshehe08:17
ThatGraemeGuyok never mind08:17
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: what is the problem exactly?08:17
charl_Kilos: ok kde looking (very) good so far08:18
Kilosyay08:18
charl_i don't think you have anything to worry about yet08:18
ThatGraemeGuyntfs-3g driver has an option called big_writes, which pretty much doubles its (terribad) write performance. i want to make it so that when i click the mount button on kubuntu's device manager thingy that option is always used08:18
charl_ah ok now it's clear08:20
charl_SnowyZA wb08:21
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: i am looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions08:22
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: if you do it system wide it's easy to specify the mount options in fstab08:22
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: however, it is not clear to me how to do this under per-user mounts08:23
ThatGraemeGuyi don't want it in fstab for various reasons08:23
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: have you looked at https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/ntfs-config/ ?08:25
ThatGraemeGuywrite support is already enabled, i need to add a mount option08:26
charl_sorry should actually have linked to https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/ntfs-config/08:26
charl_thought maybe it allows you some more options but i don't see it in the description08:26
charl_sorry no idea :) i don't have any ntfs partitions here08:27
Kiloshi SCR1845-6357A 08:29
charl_hi SCR1845-6357A 08:29
Kilosoh ThatGraemeGuy just an idea08:30
Kilosdo you have ntfsprogs installed08:30
charl_whow xubuntu is almost as much of a mess as unity08:30
Kilosi needed that to do some recoveries i think08:31
ThatGraemeGuyKilos:  ntfsprogs died 3 years ago08:34
ThatGraemeGuywell not died as much as merged with ntfs-3g08:34
Kilosits still in 12.0408:34
Kilosaha ty08:34
ThatGraemeGuy12.04 is ancient08:34
Kilosme too man08:34
ThatGraemeGuyanyway the problem isn't that i can't mount it08:35
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: you could create a shortcut on your desktop with the correct mount command?08:36
ThatGraemeGuyyeah seems like i have to do something backwards like that08:38
ThatGraemeGuyudisks2 is handling the underlying mount operation and apparently it provides no way to adjust mount options08:38
charl_i have to get on with work.. ttyl all08:39
ThatGraemeGuyi'd have to hack the source and recompile it, pretty braindead08:39
SCR1845-6357Ahey hello Kilos and charl_08:41
SCR1845-6357Aand everyone else as well08:41
nuvolari_oh hi serial08:43
Kiloshi nuvolari_ 08:44
nuvolari_hi oom Kilos 08:44
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: just a shell script will solve your issues08:44
Squirmor fstab, which you don't want08:44
nuvolari_oh hi ThatGraemeGuy, ChanServ, ChanServ 08:45
nuvolari_hrr08:45
nuvolari_oh, hes not here08:45
nuvolari_and Squirm 08:45
Squirmhi there nuvolari_ 08:48
magespawngood day all09:03
Private_Userhey bduk are you using Thunderbird to connect?09:03
Kiloshi magespawn age09:07
Kilosoh my09:07
magespawnhi Kilos 09:08
Kiloshi Golynx 09:11
Golynxhi Kilos09:11
Kiloshi Tonberry_ you see we meet on a tuesday now09:52
Kilosmonday was your beer night hey?09:52
SCR1845-6357Athe first thing i'm gonna do when I visit kaapstad, is to enjoy a very big glass of cold beer10:22
Kiloslol10:22
Kilosthats the wine province10:22
SCR1845-6357Anevermind, they'll happy to serve me beer10:23
Kilosdrinkers reckon our beers are better than the rest of the worlds10:23
Kilosi think it tastes yucky10:23
Kiloshave to kill the taste with a large bottle of lemonade10:24
SCR1845-6357Athat's what happen when you have too much of a good thing, everything else end up sucking off10:25
Kiloslol10:26
magespawnback aagain10:58
Golynxhello10:59
=== Private_User1 is now known as Private_User
Kiloshi nlsthzn did you sneak in or was i sleeping14:43
GnikLlortHello rsa!14:44
SCR1845-6357Aoh africa... if it were not that violent..14:47
SCR1845-6357AI would readily move there14:48
Kiloshi GnikLlort 14:49
Kiloswhere are you from?14:49
GnikLlortGeorge14:49
Kilosgeorge in the cape?14:50
GnikLlortyea14:50
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za14:50
GnikLlortthanks :D14:50
Kilosif you need linux help state your problem and park off till someone sees it that knows the fix14:51
GnikLlortok will do14:51
Kiloshave some coffee in the meantime14:52
KilosMaaz coffee on14:52
* Maaz washes some mugs14:52
GnikLlortlol thanks14:53
Kilosjust ask the bot coffee please14:53
jabberwocky93Maaz: coffee please14:53
Maazjabberwocky93: Done14:53
jabberwocky93woot!14:53
* jabberwocky93 looking forward to leave to office14:54
Kilosyeah well jabberwocky93 dont get lost for 6 months again14:55
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and jabberwocky93!14:56
KilosMaaz gracias amigo14:56
Maaz¡de nada compadre14:56
Private_UserMaaz: Give the newcomer a cup of coffee14:58
MaazPrivate_User: Excuse me?14:58
Private_Userlol14:58
jabberwocky93lol14:58
Kilosaw i forgot14:58
KilosMaaz coffee on14:59
* Maaz starts grinding coffee14:59
jabberwocky93Kilos, I will try not to ^_^14:59
KilosMaaz coffee for all14:59
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already14:59
jabberwocky93Maaz will you drive me home?14:59
Kiloshmm... he laggin too looks like15:00
* jabberwocky93 thinks Maaz doesn't like driving, must be a pilot15:00
Kiloshehe15:01
Private_Userman this channel is getting busier by the day...I like it :)15:02
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!15:03
Private_Userhmm... everybody so quite all of a sudden15:09
Kilosquiet15:13
Kilosthey all going home15:13
Private_Userah ok, I guess we the only luck ones here we work from home :)15:14
Private_User*lucky15:14
Kilosyeah15:14
Kiloshey you need to sort that desktop out15:15
Private_Useryeah I need to get off my butt one day go the garage to blow the dust out15:15
Kiloslol15:15
Private_Userwish I could find a home solution to clean it 15:16
Private_Userwithout having a compressed air15:16
Kilosthey say vacuum cleaners cause static but i been thinking how come compressed air doesnt as well then15:17
Kilosa good vacuum through a thin pipe will suck up lots15:18
Private_Userhmm... maybe I will try that15:18
Private_Userwell I have read that you could use it but static might be an issue just not too close15:19
Private_Userand one should be fine15:19
Kilosim not clever enough to understand how vacuuming will cause static but blowing wont15:20
Kilossurely both are just movement of air?15:22
Private_Userjust googled it and seems to be mixed responses15:25
Private_Usersome say they use it others say it may cause static15:25
Private_Usersome say they use it cause blowing air can push the dust further into places you don't want it to go15:26
Kiloshaha15:27
Private_Userso I am gonna try it15:27
Kilosthe pressure out of a good compressor blows everything out of every little hole15:27
Private_UserI have it all into pieces so will just use on the heat sink and fans15:28
Kilosmaybe the movement in the vacuum pipes can cause static so just dont touth it to anywhere 15:28
Private_Useryeah will do that15:29
Kilosmight be a good idea to add an earth strap15:29
theblazehenhey, any python guys here?15:29
Kilosthe fly theblazehen 15:29
Private_Usernah I think most are dog lovers dude15:29
theblazehenKilos, ty15:29
Private_UserLOL15:29
theblazehensuperfly, you here?15:29
Private_Userhows it going theblazehen, been very quite these days15:30
theblazehenPrivate_User, going ok15:30
theblazehenJust been bit busy15:31
theblazehenGot a GPU now15:31
Private_Userah cool stuff, started doing your mining yet?15:31
theblazehenyep15:31
theblazehenmaking around R30 per day15:31
Kiloswhats a gpu15:32
theblazehenKilos, graphics cards15:32
Private_Userexcellent stuff you should teach us, I was curious about this stuff and was reading about it, alot of reading, I hate reading15:32
Kilosah15:32
Kiloswhat does it cost to start theblazehen ?15:33
Kilosand what has the gpu thing to do with it15:33
Kilos30 bucks a day is good15:34
Kilospay for lotsa data15:34
theblazehenKilos, for around R3000 or so you can get mid range GPU - maybe R20 per day15:34
Kilosi dont understand15:34
Kiloswhere is this gpu15:35
Private_Useroh my 3k that would take along time to save up hey Kilos15:35
Kilosyeah15:35
theblazehenKilos, in your PC15:35
theblazehenyou then create bitcoin15:35
Kiloswhy you need one for 3k15:35
theblazehenMore expensive = more power15:35
theblazehenGot like over 1000 "cores"15:36
Kilosthats another whole pc almost15:36
Private_Userlol15:36
theblazehenKilos, GPU that will get you around R70 per day costs R1200015:36
Private_Userwtf15:36
Kilosi dont understand15:37
Kiloswhat does the card have to do with it15:37
Private_User12k jeez thats alot15:37
Private_Userjust for a GPU15:37
theblazehenKilos, the card does the hashing, which you do to create bitcoin15:37
theblazehenPrivate_User, yeah, my next few cards are gonna be at around R300015:38
Private_Userbut I guess it will be recovered soon enough after all that mining15:38
Kiloswhew ill never understand that15:38
theblazehenPrivate_User, couple of months15:38
Kiloswhere do you mine?15:38
theblazehenI've already made R100015:38
superflytheblazehen: sortof... what's up?15:38
theblazehenhttp://wafflepool.com/15:38
Private_Userok but is it possible to do the mining without it?15:38
theblazehensuperfly, I'll PM you. need python help15:39
theblazehenPrivate_User, yeah, just around 100x slower15:39
theblazehenElectricity will cost more15:39
Kilosdont forget please15:39
superflyKK15:39
Private_Usertheblazehen:  ah ok so how much would I make without it, approximately?15:40
theblazehenPrivate_User, which CPU?15:40
Private_Usertheblazehen: Intel Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz 2.17GHz15:42
Private_Userwell thats what my system properties tell me15:42
theblazehenMaybe R50 per month15:42
theblazehenIf you're lucky15:42
Kiloseeeek15:42
Private_Userok its a start15:42
Private_Userhow will it affect the performance of the machine?15:43
Kilosso the more expensive the cpu and gpu the more you make15:43
Kilosthats weird15:43
theblazehenPrivate_User, will put CPU at 100%15:44
theblazehenKilos, it needs to do calculations to make the oney15:45
theblazehenmoney*15:45
Private_Usergeez ok I could run it when I am away from the machine or asleep15:45
Private_Userbut then I wondering how will I get my machine back if its 100%...15:46
Kiloslol15:46
theblazehenWill still work, just lttle slower15:46
Private_Userand mem usage?15:46
theblazehenmaybe 10 MB15:48
Private_Userok I will maybe give it a try maybe the money I make can pay for me to get what I need15:48
Golynxhi Kilos15:49
Golynxhi Private_User15:49
Golynxhi theblazehen15:49
Golynxhi superfly (in the background)15:49
Kiloshi Golynx 15:49
theblazehenhey Golynx 15:49
Private_UserHi Golynx15:49
Kiloshow can you just make money from nothing15:49
KilosPrivate_User you can also try overclocking a bit15:50
theblazehenKilos, http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/bitcoin-infographic_5029189c9cbaf_w1500.jpg15:51
Golynxhmm i miss the GPU of a desktop15:51
Kiloswill look tomorrow theblazehen 15:51
Kilosunder 20m data for tonight15:51
Kilosty15:51
theblazehenKilos, kk15:51
Private_Useryep thanks theblazehen that info helps a bit... :D will try to do more research later15:54
theblazehenPrivate_User, kk15:55
theblazehenPrivate_User, oh and never use nvidia cards15:55
Kiloswhy?15:55
Private_Useroh why not?15:55
Private_Userwill remember that though15:55
Private_Userthanks15:56
Kilossigh that all i have15:56
Golynxwho said nvidia cards are more opensource than ATi15:57
magespawnlater all home time15:59
Golynxso in a sense you would expect better performance from an nvidia card 15:59
KilosPrivate_User google why not to use nvidia cards with bitcoin15:59
Golynxbye magespawn15:59
Kilostoods magespawn 15:59
Private_Userok oom Kilos will do15:59
Kilosai!15:59
Private_Userlol16:00
Private_Userbrb16:00
Kilosthis is weird you know16:00
Kilosmine bit coins on your pc 16:00
Kilosthen what are they worth16:00
theblazehenPrivate_User, don't support all the AMD functions16:00
Kilosto others that is16:00
Golynxisnt one bitcoin worth like $100016:01
superflyhi Golynx16:02
theblazehenGolynx, was16:02
Golynxtheblazehen: i see $566.01 on bitcoinexchangerate.org16:04
Golynxnice16:04
Golynxthat Japanese guy was some serious math genius to invent such a complex system :/16:05
Golynxthose early investors into bitcoin surely are smiling now16:07
theblazehenGolynx, yeah16:07
theblazehenNot THAT great though16:07
theblazehenI'm involved with some pretty smart guys creating the next "bitcoin"16:07
Golynxoh nice, is there a mini version of bitcoin that cost less16:08
theblazehenWell you don't need to get a full bitcoin, but yeah16:10
theblazehenI mine litecoin16:10
Golynxoh yes litecoin is what i remember on RT (russia today) last year 16:12
Golynxawesome idea16:12
Golynxi wana bye a pizza with my litecoins someday lol16:13
theblazehenlol16:14
Kilosso these bitcoins are actually imaginary money?16:16
Kilosvirtual16:16
theblazehenyeah16:17
theblazehenJust like any fiat money!16:17
Kiloshow can you buy stuff with imaninary money16:18
Kilosyou get amaginary stuff then too?16:18
Kilosimaginary16:18
theblazehenand physical stuff16:18
theblazehenMany places take bitcoin16:18
Kiloswow16:19
GolynxYay! free internet for the whole world. finally :/ https://www.outernet.is/16:24
Golynxthey should've done this a long time ago16:26
Kiloshaha tell cellc and mtn and voda16:26
Golynxlol i bet in 30 years all data will be free :p16:27
GolynxCommunication is like the right to live as a human being. One should not be putting a price tag on that16:28
Kilostell telkom you want a free phone16:29
Golynxlet telkom enjoy the wine their customers work so hard stomping grapes with their feet on, until their beer bellies explode lol16:31
Kilosnext peeps will want free cars and petrol16:32
Golynxjust like crude oil, they and the rest of the worlds tele companies will run out of pricing for communication16:32
Kiloshi not_found 16:33
Kilosfunny stuffs here16:33
Golynxnah not the physical stuff you still have to pay for16:33
Golynxdata is invisible16:33
Golynxhi not_found16:33
not_foundo/ Kilos & Golynx & all16:34
Kilosso how can you then buy with bitcoin16:34
Golynxits an alternative to physical cash16:34
Kilosyou do bitcoin not_found ?16:35
Kilosya Golynx but how can you buy physical stuff with imaninary money16:35
not_foundI had a miner going for a little while but it was obvious I was wasting more money than making any :p - now I will just use bitcoins to pay for stuff if needed...16:35
not_foundKilos , all money is imaginary...16:36
not_foundit is all numbers on a computer 16:36
Kilosya but with a R50 note you can go get bread and milk16:36
Kilosi dont understand this stuff16:37
Golynxthats what google is for :p16:37
not_foundanything is worth something if someone is willing to exchange something else for it 16:37
Kiloslol16:38
not_foundit uses to be money was coupled to gold... hasn't been for a long time16:38
Kilosyeah16:38
Kilosbut its still physical stuff16:39
Kilosim too old for this16:39
not_foundI use my debit and credit card to buy stuff... all numbers on a PC 16:42
Kilosok16:42
not_foundbut yes, crypto currency is an interesting development16:44
not_foundhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin16:45
not_foundsome "light" reading16:45
theblazehennot_found, have I told you about emunie?16:45
not_foundnope16:45
kbmonkeyhello o/16:46
not_foundhey kbmonkey , long time no see16:46
Kilosohi kbmonkey 16:47
theblazehenhey kbmonkey 16:47
Kilosits gonna rain16:47
theblazehennot_found, check out eMunie.com16:47
theblazehenKilos, yes!16:47
Golynxhi vice chair kbmonkey sir16:47
Kilosmy monkey came again back16:47
not_foundtheblazehen @ work so link blocked... will check it out when home again16:47
kbmonkeyyes he he thank you everybody16:47
not_foundif I remember >.<16:48
theblazehennot_found, kk16:48
Kiloskbmonkey you bitcoin?16:48
kbmonkeyhey Kilos, I did when it first came out, but quickly realized I needed a lot more computing power to gain a substantial amount16:49
* not_found will be back later ... have a good evening :)16:49
Kilossjoe16:50
kbmonkeywhy do you ask Kilos ?16:50
Kilospeeps been talking about it here16:51
Kilosi struggle to understand it16:51
kbmonkeyya it is a strange idea init?16:53
Kilosweird16:54
kbmonkeythink instead of gold reserves to back your currency, you have cpu processing instead16:54
Kilosim sure my pc shop wont accept it16:54
kbmonkeythat is how I understand it16:54
kbmonkeyno, but some online stores do accept it. 16:55
Kiloswow16:55
kbmonkeyI have not found any though, mostly as shipping is a problem ;)16:55
kbmonkeyKilos, I suddenly see I have data left that will expire tonight. what will I use it for?16:58
Kiloshahaha16:59
Kilosbitcoins17:00
Kiloshow much data?17:00
kbmonkey2.8GB!17:01
kbmonkeythat is a *lot*17:01
Kiloswow17:02
Kilosdownload some iso's17:02
kbmonkeyja I thought similar17:04
Kiloslike the new kde17:05
Kiloshehe17:05
theblazehenkbmonkey, you ever GPU mine?17:05
theblazehenWas your early days 2011, or 2009 ?17:05
kbmonkeyno I did not theblazehen 17:07
kbmonkeyI could not compile the custom kernel needed for gpu mining17:08
kbmonkeyI need an i-something and a decent gpu card too ;)17:08
theblazehenah17:09
theblazehenI never needed an i something?17:10
theblazehenMining on a P4 with a R 29017:10
theblazehenR9 290*17:10
kbmonkeyis that a graphics card?17:12
kbmonkeyI assume it must be, I have a geforce 9800, will that do?17:12
theblazehenyeah17:14
theblazehenthats nvidia right? Will be a bit slow17:14
theblazehenBut might make profit on litecoin17:14
Private_Userhey kbmonkey have not see you here in a while17:19
kbmonkeyhello Private_User, yes a few weeks17:20
Private_Userso this discussion of Bitcoin is extremely interesting I wanna know can you change it for physical cash?17:21
Private_Userif so how?17:21
kbmonkeyI don't know Private_User 17:21
theblazehenPrivate_User, bitx.co.za lacalbitcoins.com17:22
theblazehenlocalbitcoins.com *17:22
Private_Userthanks theblazehen17:23
Private_Userthis is helpful17:23
charl_good evening17:24
charl_Maaz: coffee on17:24
* Maaz puts the kettle on17:24
Private_Userevening charl_17:25
kbmonkeyevening charl_ 17:25
charl_hi Private_User 17:25
kbmonkeyyou know a lot about the coin theblazehen 17:25
charl_hi kbmonkey 17:25
Private_Userhey this is looking more and more attractive bitcoin that is17:25
Private_UserI am gonna give it go but hang we forgot to ask the most important question Kilos17:26
theblazehenkbmonkey, used to be very interested in it17:26
theblazehenhey charl_ 17:26
Private_UserHow much data will it use, the mining that is?17:26
charl_hi theblazehen 17:26
theblazehenPrivate_User, around 30 kb/s, or 9GB per onth17:26
theblazehenmonth*17:26
Private_UserKilos: can you afford 9GB per month?17:27
GolynxThe Outernet . Hundreds of tiny satellites will delivery free internet to the whole world via wifi . https://www.outernet.is/ . They even got the bitcoin service package included :p17:27
Private_UserI probably could but then this data is once off what I have so if its done before my 12months are over then I am done17:27
Private_Userok gonna give that a look at Golynx17:28
Private_Userthanks17:28
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!17:28
charl_Maaz: thanks17:28
Maazcharl_: No problem17:28
theblazehenMaaz: I can haz coffee?17:29
Maaztheblazehen: I already know stuff about I17:29
Private_Userkbmonkey: remember we spoke about something like this a while back17:30
Private_Userlooks like somebody beat us to it17:30
Private_Userbut I think I wanna get involved in this project17:30
theblazehenPrivate_User, bitcoin?17:31
GolynxPrivate_User: this is the next evolution of the internet. Communication should be free regardless of who and where you are. Finally they are doing it :)17:31
kbmonkeymy memory eludes me Private_User :p17:31
theblazehenPrivate_User, or outernet?17:31
charl_outernet is very interesting but it's not like it provides free unlimited internet for all17:31
charl_from what i understand from the website only certain pieces of data will be made available17:32
theblazehencharl_, yeah17:32
theblazehentraditional mesh better for now17:32
Golynxcharl_: yes , they also plan on making it two way as time goes on17:33
charl_not that it isn't a really good initiative, it sounds like a great start17:33
charl_i wonder how they are planning on funding that17:34
Golynxgoogle's balloons idea they should scrap and help these guys out with outernet17:34
charl_oh "Outernet is being incubated by Media Development Investment Fund, a New York-based 501(c)3 nonprofit organization."17:35
Golynxyeah17:35
charl_what can i say... good for them17:35
charl_and besides, why not17:35
Golynxtoo bad Skynet was taken :p17:36
charl_lol17:36
charl_no nobody wants skynet17:36
charl_that would instantly kill the funding :)17:36
Golynxhaha true17:36
charl_the project would get terminated immediately17:37
charl_eh, sorry :)17:37
Golynxlol , but the world needs something like this17:39
Golynxai, here we go again 17:43
Golynxor not17:45
Kiloseeeek i got killed17:47
Kilosfreenode battling again17:48
Golynxthats how DDOS starts 17:48
Kiloschat.feenode.net is dead17:48
Kilosim here with irc.freenode.net17:49
Golynxhope they get bored and leave freenode alone17:49
Golynxoh17:49
Kilosi wish theyd just get sick and die17:49
Kilosthey are nothing but criminals17:50
Kilosoh my17:51
Kilosthats me17:51
kbmonkeylol17:54
kbmonkeywat17:54
Kilosim here with irc.freenode.net and chat.freenode.net17:55
Kilosdunno where it got that nick from17:55
Kiloswhy didnt it just call me guest17:56
Golynxfrom freenode staff, Chiyo: there appears to be some slight issues at the moment17:57
Kilosslight?17:57
Kilossjoe17:57
Kilostheblazehen you got uncapped17:58
theblazehenKilos, ya17:58
Kilos   that amount of data use for bitcoin is just too much17:58
theblazehenKilos, yeah17:59
kbmonkeyhey that reminds me what shall I download ?17:59
kbmonkeybefore my data renews17:59
Kilosi told you18:00
theblazehenkbmonkey, movie off priatebay?18:00
Kilosisos or movies 18:00
Kilosget the boot-repair cd iso18:01
kbmonkeyI dont know which :p18:01
Kilosthats at least useful18:01
theblazehenkbmonkey, enders game??18:01
kbmonkeyrather iso than movie18:01
Kilosyou got a faster pc now?18:01
kbmonkeywhat is enders game?18:01
theblazehenkbmonkey, movie18:01
kbmonkeythanks theblazehen :]18:03
Kilosthere freenode chat dead again'18:04
Kilossigh18:04
Golynxfrom freenode staff, Chiyo: no word on what the cause is, but network issues, yes18:07
Kilosty18:08
kbmonkeyty18:08
Golynxnp18:08
Private_User_Webnot sure why but my PC is not resolving the irc.freenode.net address18:15
Private_User_Webdoes anybody know the IP address for the above?18:15
Kilos-whew18:16
Kilosfreenode is crashing on and off Private_User_Web 18:16
Private_User_Webfor some reason my machine has started resolving the address as 127.1.1.118:17
Kilosim here now with irc.freenode.net and chat.freenode.net18:17
Kilosjust be patient18:17
Private_User_Weboh wow it just connected itself18:17
Kilosthe chat one seems to be affected more18:18
Private_User_Webbut when I ping the address its still giving me the address 127.1.1.118:18
Private_User_Webnot sure why that is so but at least its connecting18:18
Kilosjust leave it they will sort the prob18:19
Private_Userok will do Kilo18:19
Private_Usersorry ok will do Kilos18:19
Kilosmy chat one came on with this nick 23LAAD3S5 18:19
Kiloslol18:19
Kilosno i cant do 9g data a month18:20
GolynxPrivate_User_Web: freenode resolves to 127.1.1.1 to mitigate the excess traffic brought by a DDOS attack18:20
Private_Userah ok thanks Golynx18:20
Private_Userso what are they doing to resolve the ddos attacks18:21
GolynxPrivate_User: if they didnt do that deliberatly then the servers will surely crash under the load18:21
Private_Useryeah but why not get rid of the DDOS attacks or is it a difficult costly affair?18:22
Private_Userit would be nice to reverse DDOS attacks so hit them back18:25
Golynxthats kinda what 127.1.1.1 is doing to reflect if anyone is attacking, back onto themsleves18:26
Private_Userah nice18:28
kbmonkeyPrivate_User, the ddos come from IP addresses all over the world so one cannot block it easily18:30
Private_Userok so you would not know it until it starts hitting. Are they able to go via my computer?18:31
kbmonkeyusually a trojan or virus infects pc's from websites, and turns users pc's into zombies18:32
Private_Userok18:32
kbmonkeythe zombies listen for commands from a master, and they all start sending requests to the freenode servers at once18:32
kbmonkeymost of these infected users dont know it :p18:32
kbmonkeyits a distributed attack18:33
kbmonkeyit is very nasty18:33
Golynxput all those requests in a loop and you got a seriously long lasting sustained attack18:34
Private_Userok cool got it, meaning if everybody were to update their antivirus stop accepting and installing unwanted software they could avoid this but if they install Linux I think should be even better18:34
Private_User:)18:35
kbmonkeyexactly that :)18:35
kbmonkeythe servers struggle to keep up processing all the requests, and bam.18:36
Private_Userbut what did Freenode do to deserve this? I wonder... probably klined somebody who was not very happy and not allowing that person back on18:36
Private_Usersometimes I wish I knew how to do something like that or have that kind of power cause there some sites that really frustrate you unfortunately my brain these days is too lazy to even go read up on this stuff let alone learn how to do it18:38
kbmonkeyI also wish I knew why they target freenode18:42
kbmonkeyit must be personal18:42
kbmonkeyotherwise they'd target sites that deserve it18:42
theblazehenhttps://www.google.com/search?q=blink+html lol19:12
Kilosthings seem to be stable again19:16
Kilosoh my kbmonkey you still here19:16
Kilosgonna be big storm19:16
kbmonkeyyes Kilos - that is good to hear19:16
kbmonkeylooked like rain here earlier, never fell 19:17
Kilosi wonder how many pcs running bitcoin are used for ddos attacks19:17
theblazehenKilos, why would they be?19:17
Kilossurely if you run that on a win  pc it is even more vulnerable19:17
Kiloswell they then part of that system19:18
Kilosand its open to everyone19:18
theblazehenKilos, not really...19:18
kbmonkeynah the bitcoind clients wont do that, at least not the open sourced ones.19:18
Kilosno man but the win pcs running bitcoin19:19
kbmonkeyoh they'd be running more than bitcoin and that is the problem ;)19:19
Kilosyou said its like i hidden virus waiting for a command to attack19:19
theblazehenI'd be more worried about windows PC's running XP IMO...19:19
Kilosyeah well win pcs arent very secure at the best of times19:20
Kilosso to add a hidden virus that dont kill the pc but make it a slave of some other pc would be the aim of these bad okes19:21
Kilosso the mining but is allowing your pc to be used online as a bitcoin client19:23
Kilosyou dont go digging for stuff19:23
Kilosright?19:25
theblazehenYeah, but it's very specific "stuff"19:28
theblazehenNamely doing sha256 hashes19:28
Kilosdo you do it or the pc on its own19:29
theblazehenPC on it's own19:31
Kiloswhew19:31
Kilosso with uncapped its good to have a fast pc just doing bitcoin on the side19:32
theblazehenyeah19:32
theblazehenGuy I know lives off it19:32
theblazehenno job19:32
Kiloswow19:32
theblazehencouple thousand USD per month19:33
kbmonkeyyou got the idea Kilos, but that is why open source is so good: everyone can see at what the code really does. 19:36
kbmonkeyso everyone can see it is not a zombie virus he he19:36
Kilosbut you get opensource stuff for windows too19:36
kbmonkeyif someone uses a secret code bitcoin client, they wont really know what it does :(19:36
Kiloshi GnikLlort 19:37
GnikLlorthi Kilos 19:37
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za19:37
GnikLlortThanks19:37
theblazehenhi GnikLlort 19:37
kbmonkeywelcome GnikLlort 19:37
GnikLlortHello everyone19:38
KilosGnikLlort you been here before?19:38
GnikLlortYea an hour ago19:39
Kiloswith another nick im sure19:39
GnikLlortnope19:39
Kilosyou here to get  linux help or to offer to help us?19:40
Kilosyou remember me?19:40
GnikLlortYea I do19:40
Kilossorry i forgot you19:40
GnikLlortIm just here becuz im bored19:40
GnikLlortits ok mate19:41
Kilosgood stay here19:41
GnikLlortI will lol19:41
kbmonkeyKilos, is our drill seargent19:41
Kilosi want to get us over 50 users19:41
GnikLlortlol drill seargent Kilos 19:41
Kiloslol19:42
inetpronee man!19:43
Kilosnaand inetpro 19:44
inetpro50 is too hectic19:44
Kilosman it can drop after i have retired inetpro 19:44
inetpro:-)19:44
Kilosyou can chase the noisy ones away19:46
kbmonkeyhello inetpro 19:48
inetprogood evening everyone19:48
Kilosya ya lurker19:49
Kilosyou been here long time19:49
kbmonkeygreat evening, tgif19:50
charl_have a good evening all19:53
kbmonkeywell I am also stepping away for tonight19:57
KilosSCR1845-6357B you didnt answer last night19:57
Kilossleep tight kbmonkey 19:57
kbmonkeyyou too Kilos 19:58
kbmonkeyand everybody else!19:58
SCR1845-6357Bsorry Kilos, what was the question?19:58
Kilosty19:58
Kilosdo you understand mexican19:58
SCR1845-6357Byou're kidding me19:58
Kilosno im asking19:59
SCR1845-6357Ball spanish varieties are mutually intelligible 19:59
Kilosah19:59
SCR1845-6357Bit's not like afrikaans and dutch19:59
Kilosso if i say handele you will hurry up19:59
SCR1845-6357BI mean, they're closer, not to the extent of differentiated languages19:59
Kilosoh so mexican is like a fork of spanish20:00
SCR1845-6357Bthere is particular words that can sound strange or even be unknown for each country20:00
Kilosaha20:01
Kilosty20:01
SCR1845-6357Ba common example of this; in spaniard spanish "coger" is to take, and mexican spanish it means to fuck20:01
Kiloswhew20:02
SCR1845-6357BI gotta go now, will join tomorrow again20:09
Kilosgo well20:09
SCR1845-6357Bhave a good night Kilos20:09
Kilosty you too20:09
Kilosoh they dat time20:10
Kilosday20:10
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:20
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