[00:01] <here> hi alljj
[00:01] <here> nice.
[00:02] <here> i upgraded to 13.10 and the 3.11 kernel is crashing on boot due to a network driver r8169 , which is a somewhat known issue...
[00:03] <here> however, nothing is showing up in /var/log/kern.log for those boots to help me diagnose.
[00:03] <here> when i boot into 3.8 kernel, there is no problem, and the full boot log shows up.
[00:03] <here> any tips on getting a boot / kernel log from the crashing startup with 3.11 ?
[00:04] <here> I do see a bunch of ^@^@^@ where the log should be, possibly from the force reboot (holding down the power)
[00:05] <jcrowgey> hey ubuntu folk.  i'm on a fresh install and i'm getting an weird error in firefox.
[00:05] <jcrowgey> firefox segfaults and refuses to open, however, if i click report bug on on the error reporter that opens,
[00:06] <jcrowgey> then firefox does open to the launchpad page.
[00:06] <jcrowgey> id' like to find a workaround.  ive seen the bug reported but i can't find any resolution.
[00:06] <here> jcrowgey: link to the bug? what versions, possibly try an earlier ver of ff?
[00:07] <jcrowgey> yes, perhaps that's what i need to do.  one moment i can link you to the many bug reports
[00:07] <jcrowgey> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[00:08] <jcrowgey> that's the error, if you google it you will find it reported again and again.  i can google it for you if you need.
[00:10] <jcrowgey> what's the easiest way to downgrade ff?  do i need to add an older repo and apt-get -t olderrepo install firefox?
[00:10] <jcrowgey> something like that?
[00:10] <here> unsure
[00:12] <jcrowgey> another issue i'm having is pretty much exactly like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156042/click-and-drag-from-touchpad-stops-working
[00:12] <jcrowgey> except that i'm not using unity, i'm using lxde.  so i can't apply the solution from that thread.
[00:13] <jcrowgey> my final question is about installing one of the netflix options for silverlight thingy.  which is more recent, the ehoover solution or the pipelight thingy?
[00:13] <jcrowgey> any advice appreciated.
[00:15] <jcrowgey> can anyone explain what TabButton2=3 means.  I'm guessing it's that tapping with 3 fingers is a right click?
[00:15] <jcrowgey> to TabButton2=2 would be 2 fingers for a right click and TapButton2=0 would be disabled?
[00:16] <here> jcrowgey: seems like it is still an open bug - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833117 I would follow that thread.
[00:16] <jcrowgey> here: are you referring to the firefox issue?
[00:17] <jcrowgey> i will look at that url.
[00:17] <here> jcrowgey: yes.  re-netflix, write netflix and help request support ... I gave up on linux solutions and just watch via android, which is insane.
[00:17] <marco__> how do I install latest wayland development libraries in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:19] <here> marco__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/saucy/wayland
[00:19] <jcrowgey> here: fair enough.  i had used the pipelight thingy on my debian box last year and it worked ok.  i just googled and found 'netflix desktop' which seemed to be a different solution than the one i had used.  i didn't know if one was better or more recent than the other.
[00:22] <sashasparrow> could someone help me with this problem? i'm not sure what it is but it's weird.
[00:22] <Waheedi> ok guys simple I'm using this sudo kill -HUP 19845 to kill 19845 service with a normal sigterm as if you kill it with -9 or any other thing service will respawn it
[00:22] <Waheedi> the -HUP trick didn't work out the process stays alive
[00:23] <daftykins> sashasparrow: unfortunately the channel psychic equipment is in for repair again, so you MIGHT have to tell us what's up
[00:23] <glitsj16> jcrowgey: TabButton2=3 means that a 2-finger tap will perform a 3d mouse button click, middle-click iirc .. man synaptics has all those options explained
[00:23] <TJ-> Waheedi: the service is set tp respawn in the init daemon, stop it using initctl
[00:24] <marco__> I'm trying to compile some gnome modules with jhbuild. It currently stops when building cairo with the following message: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL.so: undefined reference to `wl_display_bind'. How can I solve it?
[00:24] <sashasparrow> when the prompt to allow a mic or camera or more space to be shared to a webpage pops up in firefox i can't click anything
[00:24] <francois_> hello
[00:24] <marco__> here: tried to do what you suggested, but the problem persists
[00:24] <sashasparrow> and i'm not sure why
[00:26] <sashasparrow> anyone know what i could do to fix it?
[00:27] <eskrima> Hi does anyone know if ubuntu had been released for android galaxy s2? Thanks
[00:27] <Beldar> !touch | eskrima
[00:28] <eskrima> Thanks ubottu
[00:28] <sashasparrow> nobody knows anything?
[00:29] <Beldar> !patience | sashasparrow
[00:31] <sashasparrow> ugh never mind.
[00:31] <Jordan_U> sashasparrow: Flash is terrible, but flash in Linux Flash from Google Chrome (which is a newer version than is available for Firefox) is slightly less terrible. Try to avoid flash were possilbe, and where not possible try Google Chrome.
[00:31] <Beldar> sashasparrow, There is a #firefox channel if you like.
[00:31] <adam__> join #nammbot music
[00:31] <Mogusha> I have a question regarding networking. I have two NICs and I need to prevent them from transmitting, but I need to be able to monitor their input using tcpdump. The network manager seems to make this task difficult. Anybody got any ideas?
[00:31] <Beldar> adam__ /join
[00:33] <daftykins> Mogusha: so you want them to listen only?
[00:33] <Mogusha> daftykins: Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
[00:33] <jamesd> Mogusha: don't give them an ip address...
[00:34] <daftykins> Mogusha: maybe try ##networking
[00:34] <Mogusha> daftykins: Thanks, good suggestion.
[00:34] <peterrooney> Mogusha: network-manager is intended for a different use case, namely always keeping them active.
[00:34] <webgen> Jordan_U hey are you there? I had a break in the plan lol
[00:34] <Mogusha> peterrooney: Yes, I know, which is precisely why I have a weird use case.
[00:35] <Jordan_U> webgen: Yes. What is the problem?
[00:36] <webgen> Jordan_U so I did boot as you said, but the problem is that it doesn't see other partitions/drives so it doesnt see the grub.cfg or grub.lst that my grub uses to boot with
[00:36] <Jordan_U> webgen: Do you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[00:37] <webgen> Jordan_U no i installed it on the drive without any partition
[00:37] <Jordan_U> webgen: Instealled what?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> s/Instealled/Installed/
[00:37] <webgen> Jordan_U i mean the bootloader, at the installation step when u install ubuntu?
[00:38] <webgen> Jordan_U where you choose which partition to put the OS on and which drive to put bootloader on
[00:38] <webgen> Jordan_U and I put it on the same drive as the ubuntu and windows are on, it is ssd
[00:38] <Jordan_U> webgen: Ok, backing up. I thought that you had a physical installation of Ubuntu that already works when booted normally (not in a VM). Is that true?
[00:39] <ki7rw> has anyone tried this? http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-kde-4-12-ubuntu-1310-1204/
[00:40] <webgen> Jordan_U yep i have a dualboot
[00:41] <Jordan_U> webgen: OK. And right now you have a VirtualBox VM with two virtual drives, one which is a virtual HD whose contents are the contents of your Ubuntu partition, and the other which is a virtual CD whose contents are the Super GRUB2 Disk iso. Correct?
[00:44] <Beldar> !ppa | ki7rw
[00:45] <webgen> Jordan_U i found this video, the guy in first 20 seconds or something says the process isnt easy
[00:45] <webgen> Jordan_U
[00:45] <Beldar> ki7rw, Bot is slow, PPA's are not supported here technically, and anyone is a poll basically not allowed as well.
[00:45] <Beldar> ki7rw, Does not mean however if you can give a concise description that no one will answer.
[00:46] <Jordan_U> webgen: Is that a yes or a no?
[00:47] <webgen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9TePODkYME
[00:50] <webgen1> Jordan_U xchat disconnected if u wrote something i  didnt see
[00:50] <Jordan_U> webgen: OK. And right now you have a VirtualBox VM with two virtual drives, one which is a virtual HD whose contents are the contents of your Ubuntu partition, and the other which is a virtual CD whose contents are the Super GRUB2 Disk iso. Correct?
[00:54] <webgen1> Jordan_U , nope I just have GRUB2 Disk, not the virtual HD, I wanted to boot real partition from the GRUB2 Disk as planned :P
[00:56] <Jordan_U> webgen1: Software in the VM can only access virtual disks. If there is no virtual HD, then there is nothing for the software in the VM to access.
[00:56] <webgen> nope I just have GRUB2 Disk, not the virtual HD, I wanted to boot real partition from the GRUB2 Disk as planned :P
[00:57] <Jordan_U> webgen: You need to configure VirtualBox to pass on the contents of the physical Ubuntu partition as a virtual hard drive.
[01:00] <webgen1> Jordan_U so how do I do it? :S
[01:00] <webgen1> Jordan_U i also get the error the: most likely, the virtualbox com server is not running or failed to start, what server ? :S
[01:01] <Jordan_U> webgen1: Try #virtualbox for those questions.
[01:01] <webgen1> Jordan_U haha ok thanks dude x) :D
[01:03] <andornaut> Anyone know how to get halt to default to halt -p (poweroff) ? without using an alias that is.
[01:04] <Jordan_U> webgen1: YOu're welcome.
[01:04] <sgen> I have 2 services listed from sudo service --status-all, both of which are not no longer installed(?). What could be causing this and how can I remove them?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> webgen1: So why haven't you joined #vbox?
[01:05] <webgen> Jordan_U
[01:05] <webgen1> Jordan_U i am reading this thing on vbox ticket #11307 but if it doesnt help i will join :)
[01:06] <Beldar> woot 12 min bot answer
[01:12] <stunts513> is there a way to set unity up to use gksudo? i'm kinda sick of my graphical prompts being able to go under another window
[01:13] <Beldar> stunts513, I think you have to install gksu
[01:13] <stunts513> i believe i have it installed
[01:13] <Beldar> stunts513, Do you get an error, it should say what is needed?
[01:14] <stunts513> i'm not having any errors, its just that in the default setup the promp for the password will go under anotehr window if you bump a window or something
[01:15] <webgen1> Jordan_U well i did join that channel but so far no one answered :S
[01:15] <stunts513> i prefer the oldschool gksudo where it forces the prompt to the top and darkens the rest of the screen
[01:15] <Gallomimia> hi gang. i'm trying to make an install on a RAID under LVM. i'm looking at following some directions such as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID but this is nothing like the installer i have. it refers to using an "alternate" installer, but the links it refers to have no such thing! any tips welcome
[01:15] <Beldar> stunts513, I don't understand that description is all, I assume you are familiar with gksudo.
[01:16] <stunts513> beldar:yes with gksudo it darkens the screen and brings a promp up you would actually have to cancel out of to get rid of it
[01:16] <Beldar> stunts513, So it goes below another window if another is clicked?
[01:17] <stunts513> the default setup does yes, its not using gksudo for the default setup though
[01:17] <Beldar> stunts513, Hmm, mine does in saucy, have you changed the themes or messed with desktop controls?
[01:18] <stunts513> well i have slightly but nothing that should have effected that, all i did was mess with my window close buttons locations and a few minor tweaks to unitys search menu
[01:19] <Beldar> stunts513, Not sire enough here for a definitive answer, I would try reversing some of those and see if it returns as it should.
[01:19] <Beldar> sure*
[01:20] <Gallomimia> can anyone tell me what installer image to use to put a fresh install of 13.10 desktop on a software raid? i seem to be missing something as to the directions on the help.ubuntu site
[01:20] <dotnetted> hey all - I'm running the catalyst 13.11 drivers in Ubuntu 13.10  (Installed from binary packages) - I'm getting 2 mouse pointers and all kinds of crazy flickering and one of my screens randomly turns green - I have 2 monitor plugged into one 7970 -- any ideas appreciated :) thanks
[01:21] <stunts513> belder: do you know what the default program is unity is using for elevating privledges?
[01:21] <stunts513> beldar*
[01:23] <Beldar> stunts513, Not the exact program per-say I use sudo or gksudo, I don't know the intricacies of what is there.
[01:23] <Gallomimia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid expectations: You have burned a copy of the Alternate ISO and are using the text based installer.  I cannot find this "alternate ISO" please point it out to me
[01:24] <stunts513> ah, i just want my oldschool gksudo back as the default elevation handler, it looked much nicer when it asked for your password, i can run it manually but thats besides the point
[01:25] <TheKernel-work> hi all, I have a fresh install of 13.10 and about once every 6 hours it completely locks up requiring a hard reboot. dmesg doesn't show anything out of the ordinary. Where can I look to see why it locks up or how do I capture it the next time it happens?
[01:25] <Beldar> TheKernel-work, You sure it is not swapping?
[01:26] <Beldar> !reisub | TheKernel-work
[01:26] <Jordan_U> stunts513: Policykit and sudo/gksudo are very different ways of obtaining permissions, and they are not interchangeable.
[01:27] <stunts513> jordan_U: ah ok thanks, i at some point was goign to install mate, so i can always get it back on their i believe.
[01:28] <Jordan_U> stunts513: The Desktop Shell is not generally what uses policykit, it's other individual applications.
[01:28] <Gallomimia> *IS* there an alternate install disk for 13.10? seems to be completely absent from release pages with no apparent explaination
[01:28] <TheKernel-work> Beldar, Yeah I have a little monitor going, I had 19GB free
[01:29] <webgen> Jordan_U it worked had to run VMbox manager itself with admin privs + run command ... :S....
[01:30] <stunts513> Jordan_U: ah thats very interesting, so in a sense(this is probably an insult to linux) like how windows has a manifest to ask for elevated privlidges?
[01:31] <Beldar> TheKernel-work, How much memory do you have?
[01:31] <TheKernel-work> 24GiG
[01:32] <Beldar> TheKernel-work, Others will know better areas to check, not sure here.
[01:35] <TheKernel-work> Beldar, thanks, I've started a tail -f /var/dmesg > /tmp/dmesgcheck.txt &
[01:35] <TheKernel-work> Beldar, maybe it will pickup what goes wrong next time?
[01:35] <Gallomimia> alternate installers? install on raid? anyone got any idea?
[01:36] <Beldar> TheKernel-work, I rarely have had to use these kind of commands so not really up on them.
[01:36] <Beldar> Gallomimia, The alternate went to the mini in 12.10, so that website may not be exactly right, it says needs updates.
[01:36] <Gallomimia> it does
[01:37] <Gallomimia> mini aka network install?
[01:37] <Beldar> Gallomimia, Mini is a network yes, I believe it has about the same use, I haver never done a raid set up though, so not your best help.
[01:37] <Jordan_U> stunts513: Now that I look into it more, even though individual applications are requesting privileges via polkit, the Desktop Shell may be registering itself as the Authentication Agent that confirms that asks the user for their password, and thus the Desktop Shell can decide to make this dialog system-modal.
[01:38] <staticwarp> hi, can anyone recommend a place to download a version of ubuntu desktop that will fit on a cd?
[01:38] <Gallomimia> Beldar: that makes two of us :) i'm sure this will help get me on the right track. i'll try to document my experiences and have a go at updating the wiki\
[01:39] <Beldar> Gallomimia, Says it neds cleanup and is related to a unsupported version.
[01:39] <Beldar> needs*
[01:39] <stunts513> jordan_U: so basically the elevation prompt i see is built into unity or some of its components?
[01:39] <Gallomimia> yeah. ubuntu 06
[01:39] <Gallomimia> a wee bit old :O
[01:39] <Beldar> lol that was my first install
[01:39] <Jordan_U> stunts513: All I know is that it could be, I don't know if it actually is.
[01:40] <staticwarp> i was hoping to use 10.04, but i can only find a link to the server version on ubuntu.com
[01:40] <Gallomimia> 10.04 is out of support staticwarp. server version is still barely in support
[01:41] <Jordan_U> stunts513: Why don't you want to use 12.04 LTS or 13.10?
[01:41] <Gallomimia> i think....
[01:41] <Gallomimia> !support
[01:41] <Gallomimia> no
[01:41] <Gallomimia> !versions
[01:41] <Gallomimia> !version
[01:41] <Gallomimia> blast.
[01:41] <Aaron> Gallomimia,  message the bot,
[01:41] <Aaron> and play with it...
[01:41] <Gallomimia> yeah i'm done at guessing what the right command is
[01:42] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu as a desk top .
[01:42] <staticwarp> thanks, i know it's unsupported at this time. i have kind of a wierd situation, i need something that can be installed on a pentium 4 with 512mb ram, it has to boot from a cd since i don't have a dvd drive and it wont boot from a flash drive.
[01:42] <staticwarp> "it" being the old pc i'm using, that is. :)
[01:42] <Gallomimia> i'm going to guess that maybe a newer version of lubuntu with a network install will help your situation
[01:42] <stunts513> jordan_U: i'm on 13.10, call me oldschool but i always preferred the old gnome interface, i have mate installed on my desktop but it still ahs a ways to go in my opinoin so ive been dealing with unity on my laptop, i just prefferred teh old gksudo elevation prompt
[01:43] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE is a tutorial on installing Lubuntu with out the PAE enablement.
[01:44] <Jordan_U> stunts513: Sorry, that last commend was meant for staticwarp.
[01:44] <gpartedhelp> anyone here formilar with gparted or partioning
[01:44] <staticwarp> thanks, i will read that :)
[01:45] <Gallomimia> !ask | gpartedhelp
[01:45] <Gallomimia> in particular, i'm someone who'd like to observe your question and the answer cause i'm trying to learn how it works
[01:46] <gpartedhelp> Ok sorry, is moving a partition on external drive a bad idea?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> gpartedhelp: What is your end goal?
[01:47] <Nothing_Much> Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis?
[01:47] <Gallomimia> moving? i can't see why it would be any more or less a bad idea than an internal drive. other than the danger of mistakenly unplugging it during the operation
[01:47] <staticwarp> looks like i will run into another problem with the non-pae install. my network is wireless and i don't have access to a wired connection. i tried using the ubuntu mini iso but couldn't complete it since my wireless card was not identified during setup. :(
[01:48] <Nothing_Much> Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis? In fact, it hasn't prompted me any updates for a month.
[01:48] <Nothing_Much> Or months*
[01:48] <gpartedhelp> Ok so I had an 250gb drive formatted fat32 with 94 gb used, i need it ext4 so i shrunk the fat partion add a ext4 partition and add all the data from the fat to the ext4 partition now im going to delete the fat and resize the ext4 to take up the whole drive
[01:49] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: That is a real pain to get wireless up without a wired connection ! . easy thing is to take that box to a wired connection.
[01:49] <sakter12> yo how do i make the font in gnome terminal bigger via keyboard shortcut?
[01:49] <sakter12> or unix command?
[01:49] <Beldar> gpartedhelp, Never had a problem, being backed up is your best insurance though.
[01:50] <gpartedhelp> See thats the problem i dont have an where to hold that 94
[01:50] <Beldar> !who | gpartedhelp
[01:50] <Nothing_Much> Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis? In fact, it hasn't prompted me any updates for months.
[01:50] <staticwarp> lol that's true. i may end up doing that, i'm just impatient to get something going right now without it. i'm going to try the most recent version of linux mint that will fit on a cd. if that doesn't work i'll haul this thing to a wired connection and use the ubuntu mini non pae installer.
[01:51] <Beldar> gpartedhelp, You were here yesterday and had several operations set to run in gparted and had a freeze, just be sure to run one at a time, you should be fine.
[01:51] <gpartedhelp> beldar what prompted my feat was gparted gives me this warning "Moving a partitoion might cause your operationg system to fail to boot
[01:52] <Beldar> gpartedhelp, That is a standard prompt.
[01:52] <gpartedhelp> Beldar haha yes i was
[01:52] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: That's the spirit !.. I have Lubuntu installed on an old AMD platform, and it performs well !
[01:52] <Beldar> ;)
[01:52] <gpartedhelp> Beldar is that irrevelvant to me then
[01:52] <Nothing_Much> Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis? In fact, it hasn't prompted me any updates for months.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> staticwarp: The Lubuntu images still fit on CD.
[01:53] <staticwarp> i tried to install lubuntu on this machine and was surprised to find that it freezes at the splash screen, considering that i had previously installed the same version of lubuntu on an older pc with a truly ancient amd processor (doesn't even support sse2).
[01:54] <staticwarp> i was bummed that lubuntu was not going to be an easy option since i really like it.
[01:54] <Nothing_Much> Oi
[01:54] <Nothing_Much> staticwarp: What are your exact specs?
[01:55] <Beldar> gpartedhelp, It is if this partition is a OS that boots, moving it can possibly need a grub reload is all at times.
[01:55] <Nothing_Much> Because maybe Puppy Linux might be a better option for you staticwarp
[01:55] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: My expereience installing Lubuntu; do not enable the preliminary options to d/l 3rd party software, nor do any updates while installing.
[01:55] <webgen> does it make a BIG difference if i put xubuntu instead of ubuntu on VM? is it much faster or not so much?
[01:55] <staticwarp> i have a dell d865glc with a pentium 4 3ghz, 624mb ram, a cdr drive, and a broadcom wireless nic.
[01:56] <Nothing_Much> Ohh, that's odd, you should be able to boot into Lubuntu no problem
[01:57] <Beldar> staticwarp, are you sure the freeze is not just a black screen?
[01:57] <staticwarp> i should probably also mention that there is an ati radeon 9800 128mb gpu in there that i want to use.
[01:57] <Nothing_Much> staticwarp: Which version of Lubuntu? 13.10 or 12.04?
[01:57] <Jordan_U> staticwarp: Did you try disabling the boot splash and seeing what the last boot messages were?
[01:58] <staticwarp> @beldar yes, i get to the lubuntu splash screen and the little "loading dots" flash for a few minutes, then the process stops and the cd quits spinning. the system will just hang like that, it doesn't even get to the "black screen of waiting" XD
[01:58] <Gorroth> Hey all.
[01:58] <staticwarp> it was lubuntu 12.04
[01:58] <Gorroth> In the Unity/Gnome terminal's keyboard shortcuts, do you know how to disable shortcuts?  I can only figure out how to enable them.
[01:58] <Nothing_Much> staticwarp: You should probably use 13.10, since 12.04 I believe is not LTS
[01:59] <Nothing_Much> For Lubuntu at least, the other flavors ARE LTS
[01:59] <staticwarp> i didn't try disabling the boot splash.
[01:59] <Gorroth> figured it out
[01:59] <staticwarp> hmm i will try lubuntu 13.10 then and see what happens
[02:00] <Nothing_Much> Alright, good luck staticwarp
[02:00] <pkn> test
[02:01] <webgen> Jordan_U so I am gonna peace out for today, i will be back sometime ^.^
[02:01] <Nothing_Much> Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis? In fact, it hasn't prompted me any updates for months.
[02:01] <staticwarp> thanks! i will let you guys know how it goes, i'm downloading lubuntu 13.10 now.
[02:01] <webgen> guys which one should I use for virtual machine? ubuntu xubuntu or lubuntu? is there much difference at speed on core 2 duo ?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Nothing_Much: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[02:02] <Nothing_Much> webgen: You should probably use Lubuntu/Xubuntu since Ubuntu might not handle well on a Core 2 Duo
[02:02] <Nothing_Much> Jordan_U: On it
[02:02] <webgen> Nothing_Much and which one from xubuntu/lubuntu ? :D
[02:03] <Nothing_Much> webgen: If you want something similar to XP, try Lubuntu, for a semi Mac OS X look, Xubuntu. They use about the same resources, but Lubuntu is a tiny bit lighter than Xubuntu.
[02:04] <Nothing_Much> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/K3rTxGC8
[02:04] <Nothing_Much> I can always use those commands
[02:04] <webgen> Nothing_Much ok dude thanks alot!
[02:04] <Nothing_Much> But I wish I was prompted because most of the time I forget
[02:04] <webgen> peace everybody
[02:04] <Nothing_Much> no problem webgen
[02:05] <roasted> Hello friends. I'm trying to install software known as Mimio (listed as compatible with Ubuntu 13.10) and getting these errors. Anybody have an idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7008217/
[02:05] <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu has its own Pastebin? O.O
[02:06] <piligrim> ^)
[02:07] <Nothing_Much> Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis? In fact, it hasn't prompted me any updates for months.
[02:11] <kaihit> hey everybody
[02:13] <Nothing_Much> Ohh
[02:13] <Nothing_Much> It looks like a bug!
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> hopefully it'll get fixed in 14.04 right?
[02:14] <Jordan_U> Nothing_Much: Did you find a bug report?
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> Jordan_U: Yes I did
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> Hold on
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> But the thing is
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> I'm on 14.04, but the upgrades JUST appeared
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> So hopefully it was some sorta conflict I guess
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Nothing_Much: If you're on Ubuntu 14.04 then you should be asking in #ubuntu+1 .
[02:16] <Nothing_Much> Jordan_U: I did but I got ignored
[02:17] <muhammadn> Hi
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Nothing_Much: That doesn't make this the correct channel.
[02:17] <muhammadn> i am building a package on launchpad for precise...
[02:17] <Nothing_Much> Probably because of my impatience with this upgrade thing
[02:17] <Nothing_Much> Yeah I know
[02:17] <muhammadn> and i got this error.
[02:17] <muhammadn> make: dh: Command not found
[02:17] <muhammadn> make: *** [clean] Error 127
[02:17] <Nothing_Much> But I think it's fixed
[02:17] <etfb> Just today, my windows have developed a weird bug around the frames.  The title bar is full of what looks like static, as if they were being drawn from an image in unitialised memory. Is anyone else getting that? I think it's a recent update.
[02:17] <muhammadn> what are the dependencies that i need to add to make it build successfully?
[02:21] <ImSoExcited> Hey guys. Guess who just joined the Ubuntu family. :)
[02:22] <Nothing_Much> Welcome ImSoExcited!
[02:22] <Nothing_Much> But you should try out #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <Nothing_Much> That's where most of the general discussions go
[02:22] <ImSoExcited> Okay.
[02:34] <snyp> If I install nvidia drivers from nvidia's site, will it cause any problem? i guess the driver is downloaded in binary form, so ubuntu kernel updates can perhaps break it?
[02:35] <staticwarp> hi guys, i'm trying to install lubuntu and get stuck at the boot splash screen i've waited about 10 minutes with no progress. how should i proceed?
[02:36] <snyp> uh i should just use the drivers from Additional Drivers menu i think
[02:36] <Beldar> snyp, You have to reinstall with kernel upgrades yes generally.
[02:37] <snyp> Beldar, that's why i should use Additional Drivers' driver, since it is integrated with apt-get right?
[02:37] <Beldar> snyp, Sometimes the proprietary drivers in the additional drivers as well.
[02:37] <Beldar> are*
[02:37] <snyp> hm.. i see
[02:38] <johnmbergman> I would stick with what is available in Additional Drivers if possible
[02:38] <Beldar> snyp, It's not apt-get integration, but ubuntun developer tweaked drivers
[02:38] <snyp> oh
[02:38] <Beldar> err or was that ubuntoon
[02:39] <snyp> ubuntoon?
[02:42] <Beldar> a lame joke
[02:45] <Actionparsnip> staticwarp: what gpu do you use?
[02:45] <staticwarp> it is an ati radeon 9800 pro 128mb gpu.
[02:46] <Actionparsnip> Beldar: ubuntu developers cannot tweak the proprietary drivers
[02:46] <Actionparsnip>  They are not open source
[02:46] <staticwarp> i just tried booting linux mint as well and get the same problem, it freezes up and will not continue with the installation.
[02:46] <dugan>  /server irc.google.com
[02:46] <Actionparsnip> staticwarp: try the boot option : radeo
[02:47] <Actionparsnip> Sorry
[02:47] <eskrima> Hi are there any down falls fit ubuntu for phone? I tried looking around but couldn't find nothing for galaxy s2
[02:47] <Actionparsnip> staticwarp: radeon.nomodeset=1
[02:47] <Beldar> !touch | eskrima
[02:48] <staticwarp> ok, i'm up for trying that. how can get to the console to try and use that  command?
[02:48] <eskrima> Ok let me check thanks
[02:48] <Actionparsnip> staticwarp: its not a command.  It's a boot option
[02:48] <Actionparsnip> staticwarp: you add it to Grub
[02:48] <johnmbergman> staticwarp: it is done in Grub
[02:48] <Actionparsnip> !nomodeset
[02:50] <staticwarp> thankss, i'll view that thread now
[02:53] <johnmbergman> Does everyone here mostly stick with Unity or what is your favorite window manager?
[02:57] <staticwarp> the installation still freezes when booting with nomodeset. can i access grub from the lubuntu boot choices menu (the "try lubuntu without installing, install lubuntu" etc)?
[02:59] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: try: when bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> language screen, escape key to accept -> boot options screen.
[03:00] <staticwarp> thanks, i will try that now
[03:03] <staticwarp> i typed radeon.nomodeset=1 at the command line and got the error could not find kernel image: radeon.nomodeset=1
[03:04] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: at that boot options screen F6 key -> boot parameters -> choose "nomodeset".
[03:05] <Beldar> staticwarp, You might just do a text install and use radeon.nomodeset=1 in grub if needed.
[03:07] <staticwarp> @bashing i tried booting after selecting nomodeset, it still froze up. @beldar is grub the "boot" prompt i get when holding shift after the bios screen?
[03:08] <Beldar> staticwarp, That was Bashing-1m area, you can tab complete nicks so they are correct.
[03:09] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: are we back to PAE issues - old systems can not support newer kernels -, got to have the fakePAE to work-a-round.
[03:09] <Beldar> staticwarp, You got mine right but misspelled the others, you want them notified is all like you see yours is when we answer. ;)
[03:10] <staticwarp> thanks guys. I'll reread the PAE page linked to earlier and choose the best option.
[03:10] <staticwarp> @beldar thanks, i'll make sure to spell them properly XD
[03:10] <Beldar> staticwarp, lubuntu is not a pae install.
[03:11] <Beldar> nor xubuntu
[03:12] <staticwarp> @beldar thanks for confirming that, i should have known that trying lubuntu again would yield the same results that got me here in the first place XD.
[03:12] <Bashing-1m> Beldar: Maybe I best go do some homework too, HUH ?? .. Will at this time reread the reference.
[03:12] <Beldar> Bashing-1m, Heh, easy mistake, I just happened to see that here.
[03:14] <Bashing-1m> Beldar: FYI "Lubuntu and Xubuntu offered a PAE and a non-PAE release up to and including 12.04, but from 12.10 only the PAE releases are maintained. " Still reading !
[03:14] <Beldar> staticwarp, Lubuntu must have a choice of install without getting to the desktop, I would try that, if not a mini will, then worry about the radeon issues than if it installs.
[03:15] <Beldar> Bashing-1m, I have not really researched it, I suspect they sense which to install just a guess however.
[03:15] <Beldar> or run
[03:16] <staticwarp> Beldar: i'm considering trying a mini install, just need to get this thing onto a wired connection. i noticed at the non-pae guide this sentence: "Only if you get the error kernel requires features not present on the CPU: PAE this guide comes into play."
[03:17] <staticwarp> how can i check if i'm getting that error since i'm getting a freeze at the boot splash screen?
[03:18] <dotnetted> iso a guide on how to completely purge catalyst to attempt reinstallation
[03:19] <staticwarp> i would like to confirm the pae issue before proceeding with anything else.
[03:19] <Beldar> staticwarp, I would ask in #lubuntu to.
[03:19] <dotnetted> my system is so far broken it's not even funny - catalyst 13 drivers on 13.10 give me 2 mouse pointers and flickering screen areas
[03:20] <staticwarp> Beldar: ok i will give that a shot as well. thanks :)
[03:20] <dotnetted> anyone else running radeon 7970 cards with saucy?
[03:21] <Beldar> dotnetted, probably what you need here read carefully. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=purge+catalyst
[03:22] <dotnetted> I have purged in 1000 different ways following 20+ guides - I still have the same problems after reinstallation
[03:22] <dotnetted> I was looking for someone that has actually successfully "needed" to purge heh
[03:22] <sgo11> hi, I heard unity 8 is faster. will that be faster than lxde? thanks.
 iso a guide on how to completely purge catalyst to attempt reinstallation   Hmm seemed like you wanted to purge.
[03:23] <dotnetted> Beldar: didn't say I didn't
[03:24] <dotnetted> but I have some specific issues that are not solved by the purging listed in all the available articles (apparently :( )
[03:24] <D-coy> o/
[03:24] <Beldar> dotnetted, If I might say, be clear with what you have done and what you want is all.
[03:26] <Beldar> sgo11, Not really an issue to address here, at best biased opinions based on no real data is what you will get.
[03:26] <dotnetted> I have tried both catalyst 13.11/13.35 drivers installed as both built saucy packages and via the installed - I have purged in between each reinstallation by using bother the installers --remove and dpkg --remove fglrx/fglrx-dev/fglrx-ccc and removed xorg.conf
[03:27] <Beldar> To many variables at the least
[03:27] <dotnetted> I rebooted and ran aticonfig --initial between all removals and updates -- I now have 2 mouse cursors (one works) and half of my secondary monitor flickers
[03:27] <sgo11> Beldar, as long as there are some opinions, that is fine. I don't care if they are biased opinions or not. thanks.
[03:27] <dotnetted> and my mouse cursor will change randomly to a caret cursor and the black X - the primary monitor will turn green and restart x randomly
[03:28] <Beldar> sgo11, This is support not polling is all .;)
[03:28] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO ; Have you tried this route ?
[03:28] <sgo11> Beldar, ok. :)
[03:28] <barrett> is there any widget (in gnome classic) to display the output of a command or script?
[03:30] <dotnetted> anyone have issued in 13.10 unity where the cursor will change to a text cursor / black [ X ] when nearing the edge of the screen or over the launcher?
[03:30] <dotnetted> issues*
[03:33] <ericg> hi
[03:35] <theref> guy, i've installed ubuntu on my rig, is installing catalyst driver for my r9 290 is a must?? i read it somewhere ubuntu by default already uses open source Radeon driver
[03:35] <theref> *guys
[03:37] <Beldar> theref, Your choice depending on if the open source is suitable and what you need.
[03:38] <theref> i want to play some high end game on my ubuntu Beldar
[03:39] <Beldar> theref, Do we assume than the open source is not working for that, have you tried?
[03:40] <Beldar> theref, Note, I'm just answering really basic questions, I'm not really a driver guru.
[03:41] <staticwarp> Bashing-1m: i hadn't considered that, thanks. :)
[03:41] <theref> not yet Beldar
[03:41] <theref> its just, ive installed catalyst and it gave me error
[03:41] <theref> and it broke my ubuntu!
[03:42] <Beldar> theref, Ah, might that be a better contention of your inquiry?
[03:42] <theref> so i just reinstalled my ubuntu again and decide not to use that catalyst again,
[03:44] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: Your last in reference to the "alternate .iso" ??
[03:46] <staticwarp> Bashing-1m: yes, that's right. this looks like a good option since it will fit on a cd. i'll still need to haul it to where i can set up a wired connection. i hope that a non-graphical installer will help speed things up a bit. I still haven't confirmed the "kernel requires features not present on the CPU: PAE" error, i'm trying to figure out where to find that during the installation process.
[03:48] <Beldar> staticwarp, If it's a net install, (I have not followed exactly) the install is a longer time.
[03:50] <staticwarp> Beldar: true, it will be slower because of the download time - i guess i was a bit vague. i meant that it will hopefully be faster aside from waiting for things to download. :)
[03:50] <Beldar> staticwarp, I have found that with lubuntu the net install is a lighter running setup, not sure why.
[03:51] <Beldar> has all the same apps though.
[03:51] <Beldar> less memory to be more exacting
[03:52] <staticwarp> Beldar: interesting. :) the only thing i'm trying to figure out before i proceed is how to confirm the pae issue. during the process of booting from the live cd, where should i look for this error: "kernel requires features not present on the CPU: PAE"
[03:53] <staticwarp> the installers usually just have some generic graphical loading progress thing like a bar or dots, and don't show the lines being executed in the console, so i can't figure out where to look for that.
[03:53] <Beldar> staticwarp, Not sure from a install disc, there must be a no splash boot to see the text.
[03:54] <claycorn> hello
[03:54] <Beldar> the mini is a no pae I believe
[03:54] <staticwarp> Beldar: thanks, i think i will just give the alternate installer a shot without worrying about pae then. if it doesn't work then i'll worry about it. XD
[03:54] <trumpetting> would the ubuntu stackexchange be an okay place to ask if my ubuntu will help me get more performance out of my lenovo g505?
[03:54] <claycorn> i would love to update my video drivers on ubuntu
[03:55] <Beldar> trumpetting, So ubuntu is not installed this is just a inquiry as to its use on that unit?
[03:55] <trumpetting> Beldar: that's right.
[03:57] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: PAE flag: if you get to where you can boot the liveCD -> terminal command ->cat /proc/cpuinfo <- look in the flags field.
[03:57] <Beldar> trumpetting, that is opinion area not really definable, I would just install it and see, and try various desktops. Problem is your definition more performance which can't really be quantifiable.
[03:58] <staticwarp> Bashing-1m: excellent, thank you. ;)
[03:59] <Bashing-1m> staticwarp: No problem, just try'n all we can to get you up on Lubuntu !
[03:59] <Beldar> trumpetting, Certainly fast enough.
[03:59] <claycorn> hello
[04:00] <claycorn> should i update my video card?
[04:00] <Beldar> !details | claycorn
[04:01] <trumpetting> Beldar: thanks beldar, i will try and so something like that, i suppose
[04:01] <Beldar> trumpetting, Cool this is a W8 computer you up on UEFI installs?
[04:01] <trumpetting> Beldar: sorry, not sure what you mean?
[04:02] <Beldar> trumpetting, W8 computers use a different file system and uefi protection, it is a gpt
[04:02] <Beldar> !uefi | trumpetting
[04:02] <trumpetting> Beldar: yes, it is a windows 8 computer
[04:03] <claycorn> i would like to update my video card how do i do that?
[04:03] <rannonga> buy video card take out old video card put in new video card
[04:03] <Beldar> trumpetting, And it is a different install situation no use of the mbr, here is another link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[04:03] <claycorn> i have a lapttop
[04:03] <trumpetting> Beldar: thanks! i'll check that out
[04:04] <Beldar> trumpetting, Cool, notice in the UF link the focus on a backup of windows to cover your booty.
[04:04] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: What driver is in use now ? And what prompts you to change it ?
[04:05] <trumpetting> Beldar: right, that's what i am in the process of doing right now :)
[04:06] <Beldar> trumpetting, Cool, make a recovery disc to and you will be prepared for any OS failure.
[04:06] <claycorn> how do find the drivers info?
[04:06] <trumpetting> Beldar: sounds good
[04:06] <Beldar> claycorn, your graphic hardware will show in running lspci in a ubuntu terminal.
[04:08] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: also: terminal commands ->lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , sudo lshw -C display (pastebin them for help).
[04:08] <claycorn>  VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
[04:08] <Beldar> mmmmradeon
[04:10] <claycorn> this correct?
[04:10] <bazill> Hey, I don't suppose anyone would be willing to help me out with some ubuntu installation issues?
[04:11] <Beldar> bazill, If you share the issues and anyone knows, likely yes.
[04:12] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: ; Beldar :: Mobility ->  HD 4225/4250 -> legacy status and no propriatary drivers available as AMD dropped support ??
[04:13] <Beldar> Bashing-1m, No idea, I just see people struggle with radeons
[04:13] <bazill> Ubuntu seems to want to boot into low graphics mode because it cannot configure my monitor or gpu. When I attempt to boot into low graphics mode it just pulls up the console.
[04:13] <rcw2> dragon player can play dvds but not vlc.  any suggestions?
[04:14] <Beldar> rcw2, every dvd, vlc has a a lot of codecs when installed? You install the restricted-extras?
[04:15] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: ; Beldar 90% sure this is the case ( I know it is for the "normal"  HD 4225/4250 series, no suppoort past 12.04.1 !).
[04:15] <Beldar> bazill, you know the graphic hardware?
[04:16] <bazill> I do. Radeon 7790.
[04:16] <claycorn> dont bother updating eh?
[04:16] <rcw2> thanks
[04:16] <bazill> I have had some issues with AMD and linux in the past. Normally I could at least get to the desktop though.
[04:16] <Beldar> rcw2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs take a looksie here.
[04:17] <agentcasey> in order to play dvd's on vanila linux systems, one must first install libdvdcss from here http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html
[04:17] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: Well, IF you really need to go with fglrx drivers, then install release 12.04.1 :D
[04:18] <Beldar> bazill, Cool, that helps the channel to help you, out of any area of knowledge for me though.
[04:18] <claycorn> how do i go about doing that?
[04:18] <whyrusleeping> I want to set up my desktop to ssh into a server whenever i log in, how would i do that?
[04:18] <Beldar> !ssh
[04:18] <Beldar> whyrusleeping, ^^^^^^
[04:18] <bazill> That's alright man. I'm unsure where to start. I've tried researching online but I can't seem to find anything on the subject.
[04:19] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: If you want to use the proprietary AMD/ATI driver, install Ubuntu 12.04.1: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ <-.
[04:19] <bazill> I'd normally just post on a forum but I'm unsure what information you guys need.
[04:19] <rcw2> i dont see how to fast forward besides using the chapter skip on dragon.  ????
[04:19] <whyrusleeping> Beldar: i know how to use ssh, but i dont know how to make it happen on login
[04:19] <whyrusleeping> automatically
[04:19] <whyrusleeping> im using pub/priv keys so theres no need for passwords
[04:20] <Beldar> whyrusleeping, Ah, cool.
[04:20] <claycorn> im running 13.10
[04:21] <babinlonston> How can i Assign a Host-name and IP address automatically for 100 Systems in LAN Using DNS server or DHCP server, any one guide
[04:21] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: honestly, the support for open source drivers in 13.10 is great, I would think hard before reverting to 12.04.
[04:22] <claycorn> im not gonna revert
[04:26] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: Again, with 90% certainty, as AMD has dropped support you have no other alternative than the driver you now have .
[04:26] <claycorn> where r the open source drivers i need ?
[04:26] <claycorn> ohh ok thanks bashing
[04:26] <Ubuntu1> missing this, dont know what it is, can someone help with this?--http://pastebin.com/dVNM9Gbr
[04:26] <Bashing-1m> claycorn: It is installed, you can verify what with the commands I provided, for display and card/driver info.
[04:39] <Ubuntu1> missing "GLX"  can someone help with this????  http://pastebin.com/dVNM9Gbr
[04:44] <Duckily> is this the right channel for help with a server running ubuntu?
[04:44] <nijo> is nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???
[04:45] <rww> nijo: probably better off asking #ubuntu-touch
[04:45] <nijo> ok
[04:46] <Duckily> rww: is there a channel for basic ubuntu sysadmin help
[04:46] <rww> Duckily: here or #ubuntu-server are the right channels for help with a server running ubuntu
[04:47] <rww> people tend to respond more to questions about specific issues :)
[04:47] <Duckily> ok, i have a server running out of memory all of a sudden and i'm looking for a little help in diagnosing the problem
[04:48] <Duckily> i'm very new and looking to perhaps be just pointed in the right direction
[04:48] <rww> install the htop package, run htop, see what's using all the memory
[04:49] <rww> you could use top instead, which is already installed, but less colorful and less easy to use
[04:49] <Duckily> rww: answered my next question :-)
[04:54] <Duckily> rww: when VIRT says 426m that means a process is using 436mb of ram?
[04:55] <Duckily> i meant 426mb
[04:56] <rww> ubottu: ram
[04:56] <rww> Duckily: first link is pretty good, ignore the silly graphics
[04:56] <rww> don't think it discussed virtual memory, though, hrm
[04:57] <rww> Duckily: anyways. nope. the ones you should probably be looking at are MEM% or RES
[04:59] <Duckily> rww: thanks for the link, but i have the opposite problem. it says its 3.9gb are used, but it doesn't show processes using that much ram
[05:01] <Duckily> rww: i think it might be a problem with a process forking too much and not one process taking a lot of memory :-(
[05:02] <spikebike> hrmpf, looks like most ubuntu flavors have a beta1 release out, anyone know the schedule for the main ubuntu beta1?
[05:03] <kostkon> spikebike, there isn't going to be one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[05:04] <spikebike> so no opt-in = no beta?
[05:05] <kostkon> spikebike, yeah, only for the other *buntu flavours that have opted in
[05:05] <spikebike> kostkon: thanks.
[05:06] <kostkon> spikebike, np
[05:06] <spikebike> I've got a crashing desktop issues with a nvidia driver, was thinking to reinstall
[05:09] <spikebike> the dreaded: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context
[05:17] <johnakabean> why does ubuntu require more than 2gb for 64-bit?
[05:17] <johnakabean> any way to disable unnecessary services?
[05:17] <spikebike> umm
[05:18] <spikebike> should work fine, just not optimal
[05:18] <spikebike> and it's not the "unnecessary services" that takes the ram
[05:18] <johnakabean> xserver is culprit
[05:18] <spikebike> well even things like thunderbird and chrome can take up a fair chunk of 2GB
[05:18] <johnakabean> yes but anyway to get it unbloated? I just tried lubuntu and the repo is limited
[05:19] <spikebike> limited?
[05:19] <spikebike> don't all the flavors share pretty much all the packages?
[05:19] <johnakabean> yeah and if you used the repository of ubuntu on it, it failed requiring xserver as dependency for everything
[05:19] <johnakabean> no its ubuntu without xserver
[05:20] <spikebike> ah
[05:20] <kostkon> johnakabean, lubuntu is based on lxde which in turn needs X to work
[05:20] <spikebike> I call that server ;-)
[05:20] <johnakabean> im helping a friend who just wants to browse internet and she liked debian i run; she cant afford more ram or a new laptop or a license for windows 7
[05:20] <johnakabean> kostkon, when i tried to install simple fancontrol it failed, with apt-get
[05:20] <johnakabean> even openssh-server
[05:20] <kostkon> johnakabean, maybe you installed an eol release?
[05:21] <kostkon> !eol
[05:21] <johnakabean> what apt-get add-repository line would you suggest for lubuntu, to use same packages as ubuntu?
[05:21] <kostkon> johnakabean, it should have the access to the same repos as ubuntu
[05:22] <johnakabean> it doesnt....i went to package manager, nothing like my debian
[05:22] <kostkon> -the*
[05:22] <johnakabean> i went to games, it only had 7
[05:22] <johnakabean> 7 total, 1 not installed
[05:22] <FourFire> hhhhheeeeeelllllo pllesehhhhelp me v12.04 kkkkeyinputis ufubar what cmannnnd termnal to restart+
[05:22] <Beldar> johnakabean, Have you run a update?
[05:22] <kostkon> johnakabean, try downloading lubuntu 13.10, you might have installed an unsupported version
[05:23] <johnakabean> ill put lubuntu back; she had outdated bios and fan was not spinning fast enough so kept shutting off
[05:23] <johnakabean> i updated bios
[05:23] <johnakabean> i had to put windows on there to update stupid bios JUST install windows to update bios *sigh*
[05:23] <Beldar> johnakabean, How about lubuntu, you have to run a update to sync the repos after an install.
[05:23] <johnakabean> i had to sit laptop's intake vent overtop of my top fan on desktop :)
[05:24] <FourFire> mmmmykkkkeeeys are all behaving like stttiiiicky shiffffft
[05:24] <Beldar> FourFire, regular words and be clear.
[05:24] <johnakabean> ill try again beldar, i didnt do update BEFORE adding another repository
[05:24] <FourFire> how do     i undo+?
[05:24] <kostkon> FourFire, reboot?
[05:25] <kostkon> there you go
[05:25] <johnakabean> is kubuntu with kde?
[05:25] <kostkon> johnakabean, yes
[05:27] <spikebike> ah, update-release -d allows me to upgrade to alpha for trusth tahr
[05:27] <Beldar> spikebike, If you update the support will be on #ubuntu+1
[05:27] <Beldar> till release
[05:28] <spikebike> btw, my favorite light weight ubuntu release is xubuntu, XFCE is awesome on memory and speed
[05:28] <spikebike> Beldar: cool, thanks.
[05:28] <johnakabean> does xfce use all the packages of ubuntu?
[05:28] <Beldar> spikebike, No prob
[05:29] <spikebike> johnakabean: pretty much last I checked, of course some apt-get installs will trigger kde libraries, etc.
[05:29] <Beldar> johnakabean, Nope, it uses xfce packages, found in the ubuntu repos
[05:30] <spikebike> Beldar: isn't the overlap close to 100%?  Sure some packages are unity specific, but not many
[05:30] <Beldar> spikebike, Some but xfce is a lighter desktop, so less packages and some different versions such as leafpad rather than gedit
[05:31] <kostkon> spikebike, not really, xfce/xubuntu comes with a different set of apps and utilities
[05:31] <spikebike> Beldar: sure, but apt-get install gedit works right?  It just pulls in the related gnome libs
[05:31] <spikebike> kostkon: by default, not limited by repo though
[05:31] <kostkon> spikebike, agreed
[05:31] <Beldar> spikebike, yes, but that is not within the context if the original question, they use the same repos, you can have what you want.
[05:32] <subhojit777> Hello, I have synapse installed. I find it much better than dash as per my requirements. I want to change default shortcut of super key in Ubuntu, so that when I tap super key it opens synapse instead of dash
[05:32] <spikebike> Beldar: well the complaint was limitations by repo and app unavailability
[05:32] <Beldar> subhojit777, Not gonna happen probably, synapse needs a password/
[05:33] <Beldar> spikebike, The complaint was based on no idea of the repos being the same, and no update run.
[05:33] <tarelerulz> Do any of you have  4.3  android samsung phone ?  if so how does it work with  Ubuntu 13?  Can you get a both the internal and external storage ?
[05:34] <subhojit777> synapse password? I dont get it. Synapse, an application that lets you open apps using fuzzy search (similar to unity dash), just synapse is faster than dash
[05:34] <kostkon> tarelerulz, nautilus et all should be able to recognise it fine
[05:34] <kostkon> oops
[05:35] <Beldar> subhojit777, Ah sorry I was think synaptic, you can change synapses key to open in its preferences.
[05:35] <kostkon> oh ok i got it right
[05:35] <kostkon> tarelerulz, ^
[05:35] <spikebike> Beldar: ah, sorry, I missed that
[05:35] <subhojit777> :) np but it does not accepts only <Super> key
[05:36] <Beldar> subhojit777, preferences is in drop down from button in top right corner.
[05:36] <kostkon> tarelerulz, can't be more specific than that though, about being able to recognise both external and internal.
[05:36] <Beldar> subhojit777, I use ctrl-shift for synapse
[05:36] <subhojit777> Beldar, yes I got that but no way to specify only <Super> key as shortcut
[05:37] <Guest61524> where can i get lib6c:i386 for 310 64 bit ubuntu
[05:37] <subhojit777> Beldar, ok that can be done but I got a habit of tapping super key for opening an application
[05:37] <subhojit777> Beldar, and dont want to change my habit :)
[05:37] <kostkon> Guest61524, install it, sudo apt-get lib6c:i386
[05:37] <kostkon> sudo apt-get install lib6c:i386 *
[05:38] <Guest61524> says it can't find it
[05:38] <Beldar> subhojit777, Mine wont either, ubuntu has the keys somewhat locked to specificities the windows key is pointed at the dash, not sure how to change that.
[05:38] <subhojit777> Beldar, ok thanks
[05:38] <subhojit777> np
[05:39] <tarelerulz> How does  Ubuntu support  mtp protocol?
[05:39] <Guest61524> says it can't find it
[05:41] <kostkon> Guest61524, install it, sudo apt-get libc6:i386
[05:41] <Beldar> tarelerulz, with packages
[05:41] <Beldar> ;)
[05:41] <kostkon> Guest61524, it turns out it's libc6 not lib6c
[05:41] <rww> specifically, libmtp
[05:41] <Beldar> yep
[05:42] <johnakabean> yeah beldar i skipped the wifi connection on first install; no wonder it flew through the install
[05:42] <Beldar> libmtp-runtime, libmtp9, libmtp-common
[05:42] <johnakabean> taking much longer now
[05:44] <tarelerulz> How well is it supported (mtp) ?  after hours I got it working on 12.04 ,but it was not great.  I could not see movie files ect
[05:45] <rww> mtp isn't great regardless of OS
[05:45] <kostkon> tarelerulz, it should work fine in all releases after 12.04
[05:45] <Beldar> tarelerulz, 12.04 needs a ppa the rest above work fine
[05:45] <rww> depends on your device
[05:45] <kostkon> tarelerulz, out of the box*
[05:46] <tarelerulz> I have Samsung  Galaxy note 3 .
[05:47] <Beldar> tarelerulz, You have android 4.3 ubuntu reads that fine.
[05:48] <tarelerulz> How much room does 13  need?
[05:49] <Guest61524> how do i get 32 bit libs for 64 bit sys so i can run 32 bit apps
[05:49] <Beldar> tarelerulz, I think it is around 4.5 gigs now at the least.
[05:52] <Guest61524> it can't find libc6:i386 either
[05:52] <sajan> Guest61524: Prior to 13.10 you could run: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs.  However, as of 13.10 I'm not sure how to install 32bit libraries.
[05:52] <tripelb> 12.04 Adobe flash has a problem. I tried the web page which brings up the software center whi9ch says no adobe update.
[05:52] <kostkon> !multiarch
[05:52] <tripelb> adobe web page
[05:52] <sajan> Guest61524: Supposedly, it's in the universe/multiverse repositories.
[05:54] <Beldar> tripelb, The ubuntu repos have the highest available adobe flash the chrome browser has a higher version built in.
[05:54] <spikebike> yeah the newest flash has a newer API to make browsers more relaible
[05:54] <spikebike> firefox however has decided not to support it
[05:55] <Beldar> adobe does not support linux ix the issue
[05:55] <Beldar> is*
[05:56] <spikebike> well they do, just not the API firefox uses
[05:56] <tripelb> beldar, spikebike. What shall I do? The Daily show stalled 2 minutes into a segment "buffer full". > Corrected question:12.04 The Ubuntu Update fails on Adobe flash - a problem. I tried the adobe web page - install flash for apt for ubuntu 10.04+ which brings up the ubuntu software center which says no adobe update exists.
[05:56] <Beldar> spikebike, Runs fine in windows
[05:56] <Beldar> FF
[05:57] <spikebike> Beldar: right, they get the legacy API
[05:57] <tripelb> spikebike, beldar - should I uninstall something? I am using chrome not firefox.
[05:57] <kostkon> tripelb, buffer full?
[05:57] <kostkon> tripelb, have you tried restarting? also, do you have enough free space
[05:57] <Beldar> tripelb, I'm really sure what the actual issue is, nor am I an expert in this area.
[05:58] <Beldar> I'm not*
[05:58] <tripelb> kostkon - after the video just sat there I pressed pause, then it said buffer full. pressed play, still stalled. (the web page said it in the lower left corner of the "tv screen". Not ubuntu saying it.
[05:58] <rww> spikebike: no they don't. Google supports flash on chrome linux, they took over from Adobe
[05:59] <tripelb> how much free space should I have kostkon?
[05:59] <spikebike> rww: really?  Adobe gave google the flash source?
[05:59] <kostkon> tripelb, it could have been a server side problem then
[05:59] <spikebike> rww: last I heard google and adobe partnered on a new api to allow greater seperation between browser and flash for security, performance, and reliability reasons.
[06:00] <tripelb> kostkon, I have 4.5 GB free space, also have "some contents unreadable" (??)
[06:00] <kostkon> tripelb, where do you see that message?
[06:01] <tripelb> I have had to restart ubuntu often. I never had to do that with ubuntu before 12.04 - wassup?
[06:01] <tripelb> baffled and tired. I keep trying to solve the puzzle of a working for me computer.
[06:01] <rww> spikebike: and now the only flash releases on linux come from Google, and are only supported by Google, not by Adobe
[06:01] <tripelb> tb waites.
[06:01] <tripelb> tb waits.
[06:02] <spikebike> rww: cool, no wonder it got better so quick ;-0
[06:02] <spikebike> ;-)
[06:02] <tripelb> hi rww.
[06:02] <rww> hi tripelb
[06:03] <kostkon> tripelb, im not really sure what your problem really is. having said that, 4.5gb of free space could cause you problems in the future
[06:03] <tripelb> kostkon I see the message on the "tv screen" of the Daily show, just above where the pause or play symbols are.
[06:04] <kostkon> tripelb, even if you reload the page?
[06:04] <tripelb> how much free space should I have kostkon
[06:04] <tripelb> I will try again, ie reload the page.
[06:06] <tripelb> see you another day. I am going to try the update center again. more updates anyway. thanks.
[06:06] <Guest61524> how do i get to them
[06:13] <Blazin> UBUNTU.
[06:13] <rww> BLAZIN
[06:14] <Blazin> HEY.
[06:14] <kostkon> Blazin, HI
[06:15] <kostkon> !caps | Blazin
[06:15] <R0b0t1> How do I use two network adapters at once?
[06:15] <R0b0t1> I have a router I need to update the firmware on eth0 and I don't want to have to disable wlan0 to use it
[06:16] <spikebike> er is this an ubuntu question?
[06:17] <kostkon> R0b0t1, you could just open your network settings, set up an wireless connection to your router
[06:18] <kostkon> R0b0t1, oh misunderstood the question. actually, i can understand it at all
[06:18] <kostkon> can't
[06:22] <spikebike> My router has two wifi interfaces and 5xGigE.  My laptop, phones, and tablets connect over wifi.  My 2 desktops over ethernet.  But the router is runnign ddwrt, not ubuntu.
[06:27] <R0b0t1> kostkon: I should be able to have two connections up at once
[06:27] <R0b0t1> one with each interface
[06:27] <R0b0t1> one to my existing wlan, one other eth to my router
[06:28] <thurstylark> I'm trying to run a jar in screen and using an alias to launch both screen and the java app at the same time. When I run it in screen, it doesn't load necessary files that are in the same directory, but it does load the files if I run the java app outside of screen. is there a way I can fix that?
[06:35] <qin> R0b0t1: what firmware? Anyway to make i.e. use only wlan0 you can for example: http://superuser.com/questions/241178/how-to-use-different-network-interfaces-for-different-processes
[06:36] <qin> thurstylark: maybe #screen would help.
[06:36] <johnakabean> ok lubuntu does have a lot of apps like games in repo, I see now. Is the desktop usually buggy as hell? Half the time I cant click on anything except the programs I have open and im using both touchpad and regular mouse (usb) on her laptop
[06:37] <johnakabean> I saw an error on startup and shutdown that point to this fix: cgit.freedesktop.org/~danvet/drm-intel/
[06:37] <Beldar> johnakabean, You double clicking on desktop stuff?
[06:37] <johnakabean> would that cause the "mouse"
[06:37] <johnakabean> no, beldar, just trying to click on "start" menu
[06:37] <spikebike> not used it, sat in front of xfce for quote awhile though
[06:37] <johnakabean> or anything
[06:38] <johnakabean> like right now its stuck in package manager and the task manager open; i cant click on anything in task manager and package manager will only allow clicking every other try
[06:39] <johnakabean> is drm-intel available on repo?
[06:41] <FreewheelinFrank> can someone help explain disk devices and boot files...one 'device' is at 99% capacity
[06:41] <winsoff> Playing Pokemon Blue with random input at 1000x speed: twitch.tv/randomplaysgames
[06:42] <johnakabean> FreewheelinFrank, is that 99% /boot?
[06:42] <johnakabean> if so, thats normal
[06:42] <FreewheelinFrank> its a block device
[06:42] <FreewheelinFrank> pretty sure i got a warning
[06:43] <oxford> !ops
[06:43] <oxford> that still exists
[06:43] <johnakabean> do you have a shell? df command
[06:45] <R0b0t1> qin, thanks, looking
[06:45] <FreewheelinFrank> johnkabean: no /boot is /dev/sda2 but the block device is ...'mounted at filesystem root' /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[06:47] <FreewheelinFrank> johnkabean: system freezes up and I have to restart occasionally, no real draw on power on new system 4cpu
[06:47] <R0b0t1> qin: No, I do not think that helps sadly. I am kind of confused how I'm not capable of delegating certain connections to different interfaces
[06:47] <R0b0t1> like
[06:47] <R0b0t1> surely this must exist
[06:48] <oxford> R0b0t1: beep boop boop beep
[06:48] <FreewheelinFrank> johnkabean: I read my log file, can you decipher these codes?
[06:49] <qin> R0b0t1: You can, servers simply require configs with set ip, clients either binding (it works) or fiddling in ip tables (like all HTTP trafic to certain interface)
[06:51] <R0b0t1> qin: Do you have anywhere I could start
[06:51] <R0b0t1> I've found basically nothing
[06:59] <IamTrying> Linux s 3.11.0-17-generic #31-Ubuntu - I have installed. But everytime my internet is very slow in the same network i have Windows PC  and its not slow. Is it a BUG in Ubuntu 13.10 i have been having this problem every single day
[06:59] <IamTrying> Internet browsing is dead slow with Ubuntu 13.10
[07:00] <IamTrying> In the same network Windows PC internet browsing is working without any issue.
[07:00] <spikebike> maybe your network or DNS isn't setup right
[07:00] <FreewheelinFrank> log the router
[07:00] <oxford> IamTrying: no you are not
[07:01] <oxford> you're definitely not TRYING
[07:01] <oxford> more like LYING
[07:01] <rww> oxford: that isn't helpful.
[07:01] <oxford> IamTrying my best.
[07:02] <rww> and you're evading a +q. If you want to talk in #ubuntu, please join #ubuntu-ops and discuss it there.
[07:02] <oxford> huh?
[07:02] <FreewheelinFrank> oxford: well maybe its sending too many network requests or something is running in the background
[07:02] <IamTrying> oxford, why would i do that please? i have network up and i have same network with broadband internet and internet browsing is slow.
[07:02] <oxford> how am I evading?
[07:02] <rww> oxford: by changing your nick to one that isn't quieted
[07:02] <IamTrying> oxford, when i do ping 8.8.8.8 is perfect
[07:02] <spikebike> I'd compare your IP address, subnet, router, and dns settings to the known working config
[07:02] <IamTrying> oxford, but when i do $ google-chrome www.ubuntu.com its dead slow
[07:03] <FreewheelinFrank> wireless?
[07:03] <oxford> then ban appropriately, I don't part channels, freenode's been wonky causing my nicks to change on their own, you can easily +q my hostmask instead of my nick
[07:03] <IamTrying> FreewheelinFrank, no ethernet cable to the router straight (Same with Windows 7 PC)
[07:04] <IamTrying> FreewheelinFrank, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7009021/
[07:04] <IamTrying> oxford, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7009021/
[07:04] <FreewheelinFrank> iamtrying: can you test with cat5?
[07:04] <IamTrying> FreewheelinFrank, YES its with cat5
[07:05] <spikebike> IamTrying: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:05] <IamTrying> FreewheelinFrank, When i browse local HTTP its working perfectly too. But when i browser external internet pages its dead slow
[07:05] <FreewheelinFrank> iamtrying: apologies i thought you said 'no ethernet cable'
[07:06] <IamTrying> FreewheelinFrank, YES using Ethernet cable straight to the router (and my router is broad band with fiber internet. enterprise internet package i have)
[07:07] <IamTrying> spikebike, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7009045/
[07:07] <IamTrying> spikebike, i am pasting it from Windows PC its dead slow my Ubuntu 13.10 to browse the page paste.ubuntu.com
[07:07] <FreewheelinFrank> iamtrying: i dont know enough about ubuntu but im a new user on 13.1 and internet is crazy fast. if you set up the router correctly i would think its good
[07:07] <interweb> How do I can install tinytinyrss on my ubuntu and use it on my computer ?
[07:07] <IamTrying> FreewheelinFrank, Router is fine Windows PC is working in same network
[07:08] <spikebike> IamTrying: is it graphically slow (slow scrolling), slow to connect?  Slow to look up address?
[07:08] <spikebike> is dig +short paste.ubuntu.com slow?
[07:08] <IamTrying> spikebike, slow to look up address, slow to connect (not slow to scrolling not GUI or memory or CPU issue)
[07:08] <qin> IamTrying: did you already change nameservers to google ones in resolve.conf?
[07:09] <FreewheelinFrank> iamtrying: is it a dual boot on the same cpu or two different cpus? If two different, you have two different internal IP addresses, they each should have the same settings...same protocol
[07:10] <FreewheelinFrank> iamtrying: apologies i read again.
[07:10] <IamTrying> spikebike, see my Ubuntu 13.10 is getting auto disconnected in IRC too. Its dead slow since i am using Ubuntu 13.10
[07:11] <interweb> How do I can configure an openvpn on a server and connect to it ?
[07:11] <karthick871> !grub
[07:12] <spikebike> IamTrying> spikebike, slow to look up address, slow to connect (not
[07:12] <interweb> could anyone help
[07:12] <interweb> ?
[07:12] <spikebike> oops
[07:12] <spikebike> IamTrying: is dig +short paste.ubuntu.com slow?
[07:15] <rjh> Hello.
[07:15] <IamTrying> I just rebooted my Ubuntu 13.10. but still Internet browsing is dead slow
[07:16] <spikebike> IamTrying: you won't get help if you don't answer questions.
[07:16] <rannonga> hi rj
[07:16] <rannonga> rjh:
[07:16] <rjh> I have a question regarding checking what installation (amd/intel) for ubuntu is that possible? (couldnt find any on google searches, maybe a bad search query). Im developing on an ubuntu 13.10 machine and some dev stuff are acting up.
[07:17] <spikebike> rjh: there isn't a different install for amd vs intel
[07:18] <rjh> spikebike: so when I see some amd-packages installed, thats no worries? or have my eyes been out of sleep for too long?
[07:18] <spikebike> amd64 just implies 64 bit, not amd vs intel
[07:18] <spikebike> amd made the first x86 64 bit standard, which intel adopted.
[07:19] <rjh> spikebike: ok, thanks... thats all ensurance I needed (then threes some other stuff acting up, sigh...)
[07:19] <IamTrying> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d4:be:d9:55:91:4a
[07:19] <IamTrying>           inet addr:192.168.1.12  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:19] <IamTrying>           inet6 addr: fe80::d6be:d9ff:fe55:914a/64 Scope:Link
[07:19] <IamTrying>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[07:19] <IamTrying>           RX packets:1053 errors:853 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:845
[07:19] <IamTrying>           TX packets:1339 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
[07:19] <IamTrying>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[07:19] <IamTrying>           RX bytes:768028 (768.0 KB)  TX bytes:176927 (176.9 KB)
[07:19] <IamTrying> errors showing in RX
[07:19] <spikebike> there's ia64, but that's a very expensive and not at all compatible with any normal computer
[07:26] <R0b0t1>  Why does "route add -net 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0" fail with "route: netmask doesn't match route address"
[07:27] <sadbox> R0b0t1: Do you mean to use 192.168.0.0 for your net?
[07:28] <jak2000> hi all
[07:28] <IamTrying> I have been retrying over and over, but its same problem. My internet is deadly slow how can i fix it?
[07:28] <jak2000> why when i run this command: a2ensite somain.com i get an error: ERROR: Site itsol.mx does not exist!  the file exists: in /etc/apache2/sites-available   somain.com  thanks
[07:28] <sadbox> 255.255.255.0 = a full 254 addresses, that doesn't work unless your subnet is a *.0 one
[07:32] <IamTrying> if my ETHERNET card is broken. then why i can still ping and upload/download over same local area network GB size files????
[07:33] <IamTrying> if my ETHERNET card is broken, i sould not be able to browser intranet . but my problem is i cant browse internet its deadly slow still after reboot, or after restarting the ethernet services
[07:33] <spikebike> DNS problems, subnet, or router problems can easily slow down remote connections, but not local
[07:35] <IamTrying> spikebike, how can i force Ubuntu 13.10 to use Primary , Secondary DNS. I can replace my router with another router from HP, Cisco, Juniper enterprise routers currently i am using DrayTek Vigor 2920 enterprise router where Windows PC working fine.
[07:35] <R0b0t1> sadbox: No. I mean to be able to access 192.168.0.x over eth0.
[07:35] <spikebike> IamTrying: how is your network on your linux box being configured?  DHCP?
[07:36] <IamTrying> spikebike, DHCP or Static both tried and both had same result. basically i use DHCP as default
[07:36] <R0b0t1> sadbox: Ah
[07:36] <spikebike> windows is via dhcp as well?
[07:36] <IamTrying> spikebike, YES - windows PC is via DHCP mode configure.
[07:37] <R0b0t1> sadbox: Okay, so the route added successfully. Now I've got privoxy getting in the way of it.
[07:37] <R0b0t1> ^ channel
[07:37] <spikebike> and your DNS in both cases is set by DHCP as well?
[07:37] <sadbox> R0b0t1: Awesome =)
[07:37] <energizer1> This question doesn't exactly belong, but I don't know where else to ask. I need an in-browser pdf-viewer that i can set the default to "fit screen". I'm lost in a sea of PDF viewers and i can't find what i need.
[07:39] <spikebike> energizer1: I just download and use evince
[07:41] <R0b0t1> sadbox: I'm unable to connect to my router though. Anything I can check
[07:41] <energizer1> thing is, i'm watching a lecture where it sends each individual slide to the browser as the lecturer gets to it (every 5 seconds) and i have to click full screen on every one or i cant read it -- unless i can automatically open downloaded pdfs in evince without having to click "open"?
[07:41] <IamTrying> spikebike, YES both case it was set by DHCP (router ) as well.
[07:42] <IamTrying> I have enterprise routers DrayTek, HP, Juniper, Cisco.  I am using the most easy configure router which is DrayTek right now.
[07:42] <IamTrying> Behind those routers i have Dell R310 running server with CentOS no problem at all
[07:42] <sadbox> R0b0t1: I'll have to leave that to the rest of the channel, it's 1:40am here and I've gotta work tomorrow
[07:42] <IamTrying> Since i use Ubuntu 13.10 i have this problem in my Laptop
[07:45] <spikebike> ubuntu 13.0 is a fine OS that networks well.  Given correct info over DHCP (router, subnet, DNS, etc.) it shoudl work fine
[07:45] <pash> Is anyone willing to help me with ddrescue, I'm trying to recover data from a failed drive.
[07:45] <codingeek> I have a problem with priter... Maybe someone can help me
[07:45] <codingeek> Alficio Ricoh 2500
[07:45] <spikebike> assuming you used the same cable/port with windos on the same hardware
[07:45] <IamTrying> spikebike, How do i explicitly setup in my Ubuntu 13.10 primary dns and secondary dns (by ignoring the one set by Router)
[07:45] <codingeek> on any Ubuntu distribution doesn't work properly
[07:45] <IamTrying> spikebike, YES - same cable same port (where windows works)
[07:46] <spikebike> IamTrying: what ethernet chipset are you using?
[07:46] <spikebike> codingeek: I don't know/do/use printers
[07:46] <IamTrying> spikebike, 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0) (Alienware Dell Laptop)
[07:48] <energizer1> How is it determined where a new evince window will open on the screen?
[07:48] <IamTrying> spikebike, in the same LAN to LAN , PC to PC, PC to Router the same ethernet chipset is perfectly working (So its not hardware issue )
[07:48] <IamTrying> spikebike, only to go outside LAN to INTERNET networks is dead slow
[07:49] <R0b0t1> sadbox, thanks for the help then, gn
[07:49] <po1l> anyone had any problems here installing amd drivers on ubuntu 13.10 specifically hd7xxx ?
[07:49] <spikebike> IamTrying: looks like a problematic chipset
[07:50] <spikebike> there's plenty of hits on Atheros AR8151 ethernet not working and related
[07:50] <IamTrying> spikebike, How? If i use LiveCD it works, if i use Windows on it it works
[07:50] <spikebike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476231
[07:51] <IamTrying> And like i said it cant be hardware. Because Local area network i can send GB, TB of data..
[07:51] <spikebike> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/238466-50-solved-atheros-ar8151-connects
[07:51] <spikebike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142211
[07:51] <spikebike> http://blog.norture.com/2013/05/how-to-fix-ubuntu-13-04-alx-ethernet-driver/
[07:52] <spikebike> \http://askubuntu.com/questions/362030/wireless-not-connecting-on-ubuntu-13-10-toshiba-satellite-pro-l-650
[07:52] <spikebike> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?63139-Losing-network-connectivity
[07:54] <IamTrying> OK - thank you spikebike what i will do is 1) keep as it is 2) i will go and buy some USB external USB to Ehternet adapters (if you know some compatible brand let me know) 3) on same broken PC i will  try brand new Ethernet devices and see if that solves 4) if not then i will finally download the drivers latest what-ever avaialble and then retry to simulate the same problem
[07:54] <spikebike> several of the above have fixes
[07:55] <spikebike> one just selects an older driver, some compile different kernel or moduels
[07:55] <IamTrying> spikebike, YES - but that does not answer me the issue. Why yesterday worked , day before yesterday worked but exactly right now not working. I want to find the reason and know why..
[07:56] <maddmaxx> Hallo is there any to tell me how i get my laptop chipset?
[07:56] <spikebike> lspci
[07:56] <IamTrying> spikebike, The idea was install fresh brand new Ubuntu 13.10 (So that drivers problem are gone) but it did not worked after using few weeks. With liveCD it works
[07:56] <spikebike> IamTrying: the installer often has tweaks like using a single cpu or noacpi
[07:58] <spikebike> IamTrying: anything interesting in dmesg
[07:59] <jnhghy> Hi, I have an external hdd 500 gb that doesn't seem to mount, I've did a fdisk -l /dev/sdb/ and got back it's details but I don't know what else should I do to check it ... can anybody help?
[07:59] <spikebike> jnhghy: it prints some partitions?
[08:00] <Beldar> jnhghy, NTFS?
[08:00] <IamTrying> OK -  thank you. I do not see anything surprising in dmesg either. So its totally a brand new ISSUE. It always worked with me, like Ubuntu 11. 12. but since i move to 13 i have this all stupid issues
[08:00] <EleanorEllis> I just upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 13.10 and I'm wishing I hadn't. Problem 1:  I forgot to mount my separate home partition. Problem 2: All my packages and settings have disappeared. Problem 3: After installing Gnome Fallback session, my gnome panel seems to be bigger than my (second) monitor and when I add items to it, they don't fit unless I move the panel to my larger monitor. Before upgrading I backed up my root and home partitio
[08:00] <helmut_> hi
[08:00] <leftger_> hi
[08:00] <rannonga> hi helmut
[08:00] <spikebike> IamTrying: I'd just go back to 13.04
[08:00] <spikebike> or whatever worked before
[08:01] <jnhghy> spikebike, beldar: http://pastebin.com/BEhLtLAU this is what I got...
[08:01] <spikebike> jnhghy: that shows no partitions
[08:01] <spikebike> IamTrying: anything interesting in dmesged)
[08:02] <spikebike> ack
[08:02] <spikebike> (unless it's truncated)
[08:02] <spikebike> jnhghy: what happens if you fsck /dev/sdb
[08:02] <jnhghy> spikebike: does it mean it's not formated? I need to format it with gparted? is there a way to check if it has data on it?
[08:02] <spikebike> using a block device with partitions is possible
[08:03] <spikebike> I'd fsck it first and see if it autorecognized a filesystem type
[08:03] <jnhghy> spikebike:this is what fsck shows: http://pastebin.com/dwNxe8Pu
[08:04] <spikebike> not sure if your setup supports fat32/ntfs
[08:04] <Ben64> jnhghy: try sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[08:04] <spikebike> you can partition/mkfs it if you want, but that risks anything there
[08:05] <jnhghy> Ben64: the command is running now... thanks
[08:05] <Ben64> jnhghy: running? it should take about 0.1seconds
[08:06] <spikebike> unless the disk spun down
[08:06] <jnhghy> Ben64: thought sow... that is why I told you it's running... it's still running ... should I cancel it and try again?
[08:06] <spikebike> thats somewhat scary
[08:06] <Ben64> jnhghy: are you doing | pastebinit, because it does need you to type your password in for sudo perhaps
[08:07] <jnhghy> Ben64: it asked for password, I entered the password and then it jumped to a new row and sits there...
[08:07] <Ben64> jnhghy: well thats not good...
[08:07] <spikebike> jnhghy: anything in dmesg
[08:08] <jnhghy> spikebike: dmesg? sorry ... what?
[08:08] <Ben64> jnhghy: kill it, and try "sudo parted /dev/sdb"
[08:08] <spikebike> say dmesg | tail -20
[08:08] <Ben64> then when you're in parted, type "p" to print the info
[08:08] <Ben64> then "q" to quit parted
[08:10] <jnhghy> spikebike: this is for dmesg: http://pastebin.com/0Lm56UGm
[08:10] <spikebike> that looks bad
[08:10] <spikebike> I'd double check your connections, cables, etc.  But somethings very unhappy
[08:11] <Ben64> agreed
[08:11] <spikebike> connect the drive directly to your machine, not a usb hub or monitor based usb hub
[08:11] <spikebike> your drive, the cable, or the power supply to the drive might be dying
[08:11] <spikebike> some external drives actually require *TWO* usb connections for power... or a power cube
[08:12] <jnhghy> Ben64, spikebike: thanks for the help, parted stoped working and I agree I have to connect the device to the MB so I'll go for now but thanks a lot for your time/help...
[08:17] <fidel> hi, is there a way using gnome3/gnome shell to define a shortcut which hides all windows of the current running app. hide as in minimize. i am used to that workflow from osx
[08:18] <Minyun> Does anyone know how to set up the firefox add on "Better Privacy" (for flash cookies) on Linux?
[08:18] <Minyun> It says it can't find the flash cookie folder, which I',m told is in ~/.macromedia, but it the add on won't let me put that in and makes me find the folder manually
[08:19] <k932> I am having a small problem, when I ssh into my vm via putty and use nano, everytime I use "§" it turn into "ï¿½.", I was wondering if there is a way to fix that?
[08:19] <k932> * turns into
[08:19] <spikebike> Minyun: I'd disable flash.
[08:20] <Ben64> k932: thats a problem with windows and/or putty, not sure about it, check the settings
[08:20] <Minyun> @Spikebike: I am trying to use greasemonkey, but it seems to be conflicting with my other add ons
[08:21] <k932> Ben64: I found the solution, I just needed to set the remote character encoding :)
[08:21] <jnhghy> spikebike, Ben64: I'm back, how can I do a sudo parted -l for the second hdd? I know the first one is sda, and that an external is sdb but I don't know the second s???
[08:22] <Minyun> Spikebike: i have to mess with noscript, request policy a ton and do all sorts of stuff then it works sometimes but not sure how to make them all work together seamlessly
[08:22] <spikebike> drives are generally sda, sdb, sdc, ...
[08:22] <spikebike> gpartd -l won't hurt anything
[08:23] <spikebike> dmesg often shows info when you connect a new drive
[08:23] <Ben64> jnhghy: if you just "sudo parted -l" it will show all drives
[08:24] <jnhghy> Ben64: thanks, sudo parted -l shows only my main hdd, nothing about the second one, I'll do a demsg right now
[08:25] <spikebike> if you can more similar spew from dmesg it's things dying as they try to recognize/scan/detect/mount the new drive
[08:26] <jnhghy> spikebike: I've checked the last 20 messages from dmesg and they are not related to hdd, is there a way to grep only for hdd messages?
[08:27] <spikebike> well if your main drive is sda
[08:27] <spikebike> the new drive should try as sdb (assuming it's the 2nd drive)
[08:27] <spikebike> so dmesg | grep sdb might work
[08:28] <rezan> HI ..CAN YOU TELL ME BEST SITES FOR SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR FOR BEGINNER
[08:28] <fidel> rezan: www.DONTUSECAPS.com ;)
[08:29] <spikebike> http://bit.ly/OIRTqz
[08:29] <jnhghy> spikebike: dosen't show anything about sdb only sda
[08:29] <spikebike> you could unplug and replug
[08:30] <spikebike> any new crashing/errors and related imply things are bad
[08:30] <jnhghy> spikebike, ok, thanks
[08:30] <jnhghy> exit
[08:30] <fidel> rezan: if its about ubuntu - check: https://help.ubuntu.com/ ...maybe helpful
[08:33] <ice9> I'm looking for biometerics authentication application for mouse and keyboard
[08:33] <rezan> FIDEL: I HAVE STUDIED ONCE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR COURSE ONCE BUT THIS TIME I WANT TO LEARN FORM BEGAINING AFAIN SO I NEED SUCH SITES WHO HELPS ME UNDERSTADING IT..
[08:33] <Ben64> !caps | rezan
[08:34] <fidel> man - lesson one is really to write like normal humans ;)
[08:34] <kostkon> rezan, why do you have caps on?
[08:34] <fidel> apart from that-  administration is a big big field. as long as you dont have a specific area you want to start with ...its kinda difficult fur us to help you. keep in mind this is an ubuntu support channel and not an administration-tutorial course here ;)
[08:35] <rezan> hahah....thanks for support ubottu
[08:37] <rezan> fidel:- then help me with bluetooth step by step..i dont see any bluetooth icon on my ubuntu
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth|rezan,
[08:37] <rezan> i have ubuntu 12.04
[08:37] <rezan> yes
[08:38] <rezan> ubittu:- i did went there but fail to activable bluetooth
[08:39] <cfhowlett> rezan, http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/09/how-to-set-up-a-bluetooth-connection-in-ubuntu/
[08:39] <fidel> rezan: ubottu is a bot - people inhere use it to automate repeating tasks/texts. there is no need to adress him directly as we will NOT talk to you like humans might do
[08:47] <ice9> chromium doesn't resolve localhost or 12.0.0.01 when using socks proxy
[08:56] <sgo11> hi, my laptop has two graphic cards. one is built-in intel and another one is nvidia graphic card. "Additional Drivers" can not find any drivers for me. what should I do in this case? nvidia-prime? thanks.
[08:56] <rww> sgo11: are you using a currently-supported version of Ubuntu, or Ubuntu trusty?
[08:56] <rww> sgo11: if the former, please don't crosspost in #ubuntu+1. if the latter, please don't crosspost here.
[08:57] <sgo11> rww, I used both. dual-boot.
[08:57] <sgo11> rww, both has the same problem.
[08:57] <rww> sgo11: then just post here
[08:58] <rww> Anyways, more on-topicly, I don't use nvidia, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics seems relevant.
[08:59] <chaotic_good> yeah
[08:59] <skyzzang> hello
[08:59] <skyzzang> does anyone know how I can go to #android-dev
[08:59] <skyzzang> im new to this irc thing
[08:59] <rww> sgo11: and/or http://askubuntu.com/questions/36930/how-well-do-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus-work , and/or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[08:59] <Pricey> sgo11: You'll probably want the bumblebee solution.
[08:59] <rww> thanks Pricey
[08:59] <rww> !register | skyzzang
[08:59] <rww> skyzzang: do that ^, then /join #android-dev
[09:00] <skyzzang> oh ok thanks
[09:00] <sgo11> rww, Pricey, thanks a lot. :)
[09:06] <solofight> i am running version 13.xx of ubuntu - and when i try to open a webex meeting - it says no message center avail for your os
[09:06] <solofight> i checked ubuntu forums and they suggested to install oracle java
[09:06] <solofight> so i installed the latest version 8 using apt-get
[09:06] <solofight> even now i get the same error
[09:06] <solofight> how do i solve this ?
[09:07] <solofight> is it not possible now to join a webex meeting from ubuntu ?
[09:07] <Guest1234567> Is there a way to backup databases residing on a remote server, and back them up to the local server?
[09:12] <SamGoody> hi all. I would like to setup sudo so that when I login it keeps me in till 30 min without activity
[09:12] <SamGoody> I have a server at several hosts, and each keeps me in for different amount of times before I need to put in my 160 character password again
[09:13] <SamGoody> And I looked at the sudoers file, and I don't see where that is set
[09:13] <SamGoody> [pass not really 160 chars, but it feels that way when I keep typing it in]
[09:14] <SamGoody> hi? This is the Ubuntu room, right?
[09:16] <Beldar> SamGoody, took 3 seconds. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout
[09:16] <SamGoody> howd you find that?
[09:16] <SamGoody> OK, will read. But I had googled first
[09:17] <Beldar> SamGoody, Looked with ubuntu sudo time out
[09:19] <Beldar> If I have learned anything on this channel it is google foo
[09:20] <gordonjcp> Beldar: then you have learned the most useful thing
[09:20] <Beldar> true, I ask for help about once a year
[09:21] <Guest1234567> I get the following error when backuping up with mysql dump: Got error: 1142: SELECT,LOCK TABL command denied to user 'root'@'localhost' for table 'cond_instances' when using LOCK TABLES
[09:21] <Guest1234567> ANything i can do to stop it?
[09:21] <SamGoody> I edited as suggested, and exited the session. Then re-logged in and did two commands, It still asks for pass each call
[09:23] <SamGoody> do i need to reboot the computer?
[09:24] <chaotic_good> postgresql and firebirdDB are better than mysql
[09:24] <stikling_> Anyone else have issues with the captcha in software center?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !anyone|stikling_,
[09:25] <stikling_> I cant figure out how to register a software center account.
[09:25] <stikling_> The captcha is seriously messed up
[09:26] <SamGoody> rebooted the computer after visod'ing but it still demands a pass each time
[09:27] <SamGoody> Defaults        timestamp_timeout=30
[09:28] <SamGoody> Any idea what else could be forcing the timeout to 0?
[09:29] <Beldar> SamGoody, That search has a page of hits, I would use the release rather than ubuntu.
[09:31] <solofight> ok i waited for some time so reposting my question now
[09:31] <solofight> i am running version 13.xx of ubuntu - and when i try to open a webex meeting - it says no message center avail for your os
[09:31] <solofight> so i installed the latest version 8 using apt-get
[09:31] <solofight> even now i get the same error
[09:31] <solofight> how do i solve this ?
[09:32] <solofight> is it not possible now to join a webex meeting from ubuntu ?
[09:32] <solofight> [14:39:00] SirLagz_ [~SirLagz@ppp121-45-237-196.lns20.per1.internode.on.net] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 252
[09:32] <msenda> hi
[09:32] <cfhowlett> msenda, greetings
[09:33] <solofight> i checked ubuntu forums and they suggested to install oracle jav
[09:33] <msenda> i hav a question
[09:34] <stikling_> I cant figure out this captha-thing. it is so fuzzy. ideas?
[09:41] <SamGoody> Beldar - thanks - got it working
[09:42] <interweb> When I want to use gpg -c command it opens a gui window to enter the password how do I can disable gui ? I want it to ask me it in command line
[09:44] <interweb>  could anyone help ?
[09:45] <interweb> hello
[09:56] <chaotic_good> yeah
[09:56] <chaotic_good> whatup
[09:56] <chaotic_good> help is here
[10:01] <interweb> chaotic_good, when I want to enter a password using terminal it opens a gui that asks for password but I want it in my terminal
[10:01] <chaotic_good> hm
[10:02] <interweb> what do I can do ?
[10:02] <chaotic_good> nsswitch.conf perhaps hmm
[10:02] <chaotic_good> so you instaleld ubnut?
[10:02] <interweb> yup
[10:02] <chaotic_good> or is this preexisting box or?
[10:03] <MarkDavies> hi. Where does exactly the version of vim for Ubuntu come from?
[10:03] <kostkon> MarkDavies, debian repos
[10:04] <MarkDavies> kostkon: this version is awesome. I've tried version pre-installed with some other systems and they lack some features.
[10:04] <kostkon> MarkDavies, you said it bro
[10:06] <MarkDavies> kostkon: for example, it is very easy to go to the end of the line, while in a lot of builds it gives you some problems.
[10:11] <kingplusplus> do i get support from xubuntu
[10:11] <kingplusplus> here
[10:12] <ikonia> you can do, or you can use #xubuntu too
[10:12] <DJones> kingplusplus: Yes you will, just ask you question in the channel
[10:13] <kingplusplus> ikonia, meanwhile my reason for wanting to install xubuntu is because i need something light weight Unity freezes like hell, i hate the bug error found every time Nautilius crashes
[10:17] <icedwater> kingplusplus: just install xfce and use that instead?
[10:18] <icedwater> q info
[10:18] <icedwater> ...
[10:18] <kingplusplus> icedwater, yes do i like have to install Ubuntu first ? because i just format my pc
[10:19] <icedwater> Ooops. OK, well, then you have a choice of installing either Ubuntu or Xubuntu.
[10:19] <kingplusplus> icedwater, thanks, am going to download Xubuntu now
[10:19]  * icedwater waves
[10:21] <fabijanb> Hi Guyz
[10:22] <icedwater> fabijanb: hello
[10:23] <Guest81498> кто русский?
[10:23] <icedwater> !ru | Guest81498
[10:23] <fabijanb> Hi guyz
[10:23] <laurent__> Hi
[10:24] <cfhowlett> fabijanb, greetings
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kingplusplus: you dont have to reinstall, if you have ubuntu installed in some way, run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4    log off then log in to the XFCE session in Lightdm
[10:25] <Guest81498> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 8-)
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Guest81498, stop doing that.
[10:25] <lost_and_unfound> Greetings fellow geeks, I need to purchase a laptop which I can run Ubuntu on. I have looked at the hardware list ( http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ ) and would like to know from your experience what you would suggest as a decent laptop (+- 700USD / 400GBP ) in terms of reliability and driver support. Thanks
[10:25] <kingplusplus> ActionParsnip, thanks, i have already formatted because i needed to clean the entire pc
[10:25] <icedwater> ActionParsnip: yeah, see above :P
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> kingplusplus: ok then reinstall with Xubuntu and the extra step wont be needed :D
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: :P
[10:26] <Guest81498> how to register a nickname?
[10:26] <icedwater> Guest81498: just use /nick yourpreferredname
[10:26] <DJones> !register | Guest81498
[10:27] <icedwater> If you really must register, see above :P
[10:27] <icedwater> Thanks though DJones
[10:27] <Guest81498> !register | Viones
[10:28] <Viones> Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!!! ;)
[10:28] <icedwater> lost_and_unfound: let me know what answer you get, I'm heading off now. I generally believe any computer is decent, have been lucky so far.
[10:29] <Viones> кто сдесь русский а?
[10:29] <cfhowlett> !ru|Viones,
[10:30] <Viones> !ru | Viones
[10:30] <lost_and_unfound> icedwater: lets just say I have had some colourful times with Acer Hardware on laptops... so I prefer to avoid it =]
[10:31] <Viones> and that finally discussing here?
[10:31] <icedwater> Ah, OK. I have had Fujitsu for 3 years+ and then an Asus for about the same amount of time.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> !details|Viones,
[10:31] <icedwater> I only stopped using the Fujitsu because I dropped it on its screen..
[10:31] <Viones> !details|Viones
[10:31] <icedwater> Oh and some keys had to be removed
[10:32] <Viones>  :)
[10:32] <icedwater> Well in between I had another laptop, but that had fan issues I don't think were due to Ubuntu :P
[10:32] <icedwater> Viones: please consider #ubuntu-offtopic if you're not going to ask for help about Ubuntu.
[10:33] <Viones> and nafig me some help about ubuntu?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> Viones, 1. state your ubuntu problem
[10:35] <Viones> Windows the best of the best!!!
[10:35] <cfhowlett> Viones, stop spamming this channel.
[10:35] <Viones> continue spam.............
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Viones: please be a decent human, the channel is for support only
[10:36] <DJones> Viones: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, if you have an ubuntu support related question, you are welcome to ask it, but the channel isn't for general chat
[10:37] <Viones> okay I entered the convent
[10:37] <beingHuman> Nothing is impossible. :)
[10:38] <Viones> do not tell me the room to potrollit?
[10:40] <Viones> ь
[10:40] <Viones> all all I have left...
[10:42] <maci___> hi, anyone knows how to connect xubuntu 12.10 to HDTV via s-video scart?
[10:42] <Guest1234567> How can i stop the port bind made with this command? ssh -f -L3310:localhost:3306 user@192.168.1.12 -N
[10:43] <llutz> Guest1234567: kill the ssh-process
[10:45] <Guest1234567> llutz: how would i add that to a script?
[10:47] <llutz> Guest1234567: put the $PID into a var, kill the pid when needed
[10:47] <Guest1234567> llutz:  but the pid will change over time
[10:48] <elacheche> Hey.. Any one have news about the UPC → http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert ?
[10:50] <llutz> Guest1234567: when you create the connection, save the pid, it won't change
[10:51] <Guest1234567> llutz: but the connection is made automaticly at 1:00 at night
[10:51] <llutz> Guest1234567: by a script?
[10:52] <Guest1234567> yes
[10:52] <llutz> Guest1234567: so change the script, add the pid-saving part
[10:52] <Guest1234567> i need to setup the local port binding and after i am done with it it needs to unbind it\
[10:54] <llutz> Guest1234567: if you can be sure there is only one of those ssh-sessions, use pkill -f --uid=.... "L:3310"
[10:55] <llutz> Guest1234567: before you ask: read "man pkill" for more info/help
[10:58] <Guest1234567> alright, got it working, thanks llutz
[11:03] <kelevra> exit
[11:07] <iscape> after an update X crashes as soon as i start libreoffice, chrome, firefox etc.
[11:07] <iscape> am on 13.10
[11:07] <iscape> samsung laptop, thus nothing exotic
[11:08] <iscape> how do i track this down ?
[11:09] <iscape> i.e. X still starts, but crashes once an application is launched
[11:09] <Tom1> which output driver to choose in vlc media player in ubuntu
[11:10] <Tom1> gl,gl2,xv,x11?
[11:10] <Tom1> or vaapi?
[11:11] <skid-vicious1> hey all. wondering if there might be any X60s thinkpad users on board...?
[11:13] <jamie694> is ppa.launchpad.net working?
[11:13] <jamie694> I am getting lots of 403  Forbidden from ppa.launchpad.net
[11:13] <ddssc> join #python
[11:14] <aleksandra> problem with installing anyting on new xubunty
[11:18] <hyp3rkyd> hi all, I am trying to use a folder in /media which contains a shared folder (this is an ubuntu guest server 12.04 inside a MAC OS host) and I do not have the appropriate permissions. Only root can access the folder and I have tried to chown the folder or change permissions chmod -R 777 but the access remains the same. any ideas ?
[11:25] <snyp> Can I use 14.04 now?
[11:26] <james-ubyssey> is there any way in xfce to limit secondary monitor to just one workspace
[11:26] <dfrank> dear All. I need for some utility that could count bandwidth per application. I mean, how much traffic each application ate. I know about nethogs, but it shows just realtime traffic. I need a daemon that will count the traffic all the time, and I can see results. Is there such daemon?
[11:27] <DJones> snyp: If you know what your doing you can use it while its being developed, but if you want a stable system, its probably better to wait until April when it released, best place to ask about it is #ubuntu+1 which is its support channel
[11:27] <snyp> i see
[11:47] <scx> hello
[11:47] <scx> can anyone show me result of this command?: nslookup fraps.com
[11:47] <ikonia> why ?
[11:47] <ikonia> surly it's more important what you are getting as that will determain what you get
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> scx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7009905/
[11:49] <scx> ActionParsnip: thx
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> scx: you could have use mx tools too
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> scx: there are _tonnes_ of sites that can do that stuff for you
[11:52] <test4> i have theoretical question http://bpaste.net/show/183293/  are the steps something like check the links on ports, tcpdump in linux routers, acl and routing tables in all the devices, server side netstat, iptables, service configuration?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> test4: how is that Ubuntu related?
[11:54] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:54] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[11:54] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:54] <wonderworld> outer/router
[11:54] <test4> ActionParsnip: lets say linux routers are ubuntu and machine A and B are also ubuntu
[11:55] <cristian_c> wonderworld, ?
[11:55] <cristian_c> ah, ok
[11:55] <cristian_c> sorry
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> test4: Id ask in #networking to be sure the logic is sound
[11:55] <test4> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[12:05] <love> dear frieands i have MRTG installed in ubnutu 12.04 and during test i have  aproblem in  createing  mrtg configuration file? is teher any one who can help me
[12:10] <love> dear frieands i have MRTG installed in ubnutu 12.04 and during test i have  aproblem in  createing  mrtg configuration file? is teher any one who can help me
[12:10] <usr13> love: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MRTG
[12:13] <usr13> love: DO you get a specific error? (What command do you give [exactly], what error do you get [exactly].)
[12:15] <love> user13:http://paste.ubuntu.com/7010017/
[12:18] <bu5hm4n> why is there still the old libvirt in the lts ? I need 1.1.1 what can I do ?
[12:18] <narcos> Anyone got a box with uptime >=119 days?
[12:19] <gordonjcp> narcos: yes
[12:20] <narcos> gordonjcp: Could you please run this command and tell me if the output is +ve or -ve?     python -c "import os; print os.times()[4]"
[12:20]  * gordonjcp is quite often using a box with ~3000 days uptime
[12:20] <gordonjcp> narcos: no, it doesn't have python installed
[12:20] <narcos> Ah
[12:20] <narcos> nm :)
[12:20] <narcos> I'm getting a weird overflow issue
[12:20] <gordonjcp> and it's not something I can fanny about with
[12:20] <narcos> Just on this box with 119 days uptime, so wondering if uptime is overflowing some clock
[12:20] <yeats> !info libvirt
[12:21] <yeats> !info libvirt-bin
[12:21] <narcos> gordonjcp: But nice on 3000 days uptime. It'll be a teenager soon.
[12:21] <yeats> bu5hm4n: you can upgrade to saucy or wait another month and move to 14.04
[12:22] <bu5hm4n> yeah I got a bug in libvirt and my VMs are not starting because of apparmor, does that mean I am fucked up because I have to stay on LTS ?
[12:22] <bu5hm4n> yeats, ^
[12:23] <gordonjcp> narcos: good old VMS
[12:24] <yeats> !bug | bu5hm4n
[12:24] <gordonjcp> narcos: also I've got a Solaris box with about six months uptime, and I expect it to get to the login prompt any day now
[12:24] <yeats> bu5hm4n: I'll mention that I've been running VMs on libvirt in 12.04 for years with no problem, though
[12:25] <narcos> gordonjcp: heh
[12:25] <hello123> server irc please :D
[12:26] <bu5hm4n> yeats, this is a known bug, I see no reason to fill a second bug report ! Nice to heare that but it doesnt matter anything on my problem, so am I understanding it correctly that there is no way to install 1.1.1 ?
[12:26] <hello123> #ubuntu_server??
[12:26] <DJones> hello123: #ubuntu-server is the specific ubuntu server channel
[12:29] <yeats> bu5hm4n: you can look around for PPAs or you might consider compiling from source... note that PPAs are unsupported in this channel, but you gotta do what you gotta do
[12:30] <yeats> bu5hm4n: this is for an older version of libvirt, but it might serve as an example if you end up installing from source: http://blog.scottlowe.org/2012/11/05/compiling-libvirt-1-0-0-on-ubuntu-12-04-and-12-10/
[12:31] <bu5hm4n> yeats, will think about that, thx ! :)
[12:32] <FillFeile> yeats: did bu5hm4n mentioned that libvirt is running on an old version?!
[12:33] <yeats> FillFeile: ?
[12:34] <belalobo> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntustudio on my laptop. I'd like to have other desktop enviroments to choose from at login, for example the ubuntu stardart desktop or gnome 3. is it safe to install without breaking/messing up the system? if so how can I do it? thanks
[12:36] <yeats> belalobo: yes, should be fine - you can install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <yeats> belalobo: note that both packages will pull in lots of dependencies, so you may end up with clutter ;-)
[12:38] <belalobo> i think i'll use only one. do you know which one is more stable?
[12:38] <yeats> belalobo: ubuntu-desktop is better supported
[12:39] <yeats> belalobo: but both are stable
[12:39] <belalobo> great thanks. i'll need to add ppas and all that right?
[12:39] <yeats> belalobo: nope - those should be in the standard repos
[12:40] <yeats> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[12:40] <yeats> !info ubuntu-desktop
[12:40] <belalobo> so i just run the command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and i'm done?
[12:40] <yeats> belalobo: yep - that should do it
[12:40] <belalobo> thanks alot!
[12:47] <AZDrew17> #android-root
[12:47] <AZDrew17> join #android-root
[12:52] <Ventu> Good morning All
[12:53] <allopyan> when i start dhcp i got " Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcp-server/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied."?? my dhcpd.pid file is empty , any idea ??
[12:53] <allopyan> ?
[12:54] <allopyan> can any one tell me what i should do plz
[12:54] <allopyan> ??
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: what command are you using to start it?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: is it a dhcp server, or dhcp client?
[12:55] <allopyan> dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp-server/dhcpd.pid wlan0
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: wont that need sudo?
[12:56] <allopyan> i used sudo -i
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: I see
[12:57] <allopyan>  <ActionParsnip>  it's dhcp server
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: i guessed
[12:57] <Thubo> I'm exporting an NFSv3 mount. The clients mount with 'vers=3,mountvers=3'. On the Server I get errors like 'svc: 10.0.3.4, port=885: unknown version (4 for prog 100003, cordell nfsd)'. Any ideas why this is?
[12:57] <allopyan>  <ActionParsnip>  dhcpd.pid is empty ??!
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/985417
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> allopyan: seems to be an apparmor thing
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/974054
[12:59] <usr13> bu5hm4n: Are there packages you've installed by means other than the apt?
[13:00] <Sjors> Hi
[13:00] <bu5hm4n> usr13, what ?
[13:00] <usr13> bu5hm4n: I was a bit far back in the buffer... (My question may have been out irrelevant)
[13:01] <usr13> bu5hm4n: Have you solved your issue yet?
[13:01] <kingplusplus> i have a UEFI enable laptop which comes with windows 8, i removed windows 8 and installed windows 7. Although i have created Unallocated Partiong but do i need to do anything to be able to install Xubuntu?
[13:02] <bu5hm4n> usr13, not really ... The problem still appears, but I am not sure if the issue is libvirt related or m23 related :/
[13:02] <bu5hm4n> m23 is the VM ...
[13:02] <usr13> kingplusplus: As long is you don't delete the little EUFI partition, you should be ok.
[13:03] <kingplusplus> usr13, i have deleted it long long ago but since am able to install Windows 7 cant i still install Xubuntu
[13:03] <usr13> bu5hm4n: I don't know either, but my  question was;  Have you installed any pacakges not uing Ubuntu's package management system?
[13:04] <usr13> kingplusplus: If you can install Win7, you can install Ubuntu as well.
[13:04] <kingplusplus> usr13, thanks, i appreciate your help, in other for me not to screw grub, does that mean i should leave all to default?
[13:05] <usr13> kingplusplus: (I suppose what you are saying is that you've set your PC to bypass the EUFI and are booting in legacy mode.)
[13:05] <[Gentoo]> kingplusplus: choose custom install and install root to that partition
[13:05] <[Gentoo]> after making ext4 on it or whatever
[13:05] <kingplusplus> usr13, that is currect
[13:06] <coffnix> ae galera,estou com uma dúvida.... pra que serve o comando :(){ :|: & };:
[13:06] <usr13> [Gentoo]: Are you sure?  (Seems to me that he would just install grub to MBR. Like normal.)
[13:06] <[Gentoo]> usr13: i mean the unallocated partition
[13:06] <allopyan> i followed this to configure my dhcp is it outdated ? ?http://askubuntu.com/questions/140126/how-do-i-configure-a-dhcp-server
[13:06] <kingplusplus> [Gentoo], ok
[13:07] <usr13> [Gentoo]: Yea, install Ubuntu to the unallocated free space
[13:07] <kingplusplus> [Gentoo], usi will see what comes up as i install it, am creating the USB right now
[13:07] <allopyan> ??
[13:08] <usr13> kingplusplus: What [Gentoo] is saying is that if you have already shrunk the Win7 partition and have enough free space, (unallocated, unpartitioned HD space), then just tell the installer to partition and install on that "free space".
[13:08] <siberiannerd> where can i ask some questions about cross-compiling and package building process for armhf arch using emdebian toolchain?
[13:09] <bu5hm4n> usr13, no !
[13:09] <usr13> bu5hm4n: Then you should be able to fix what you have without problems.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[13:10] <bu5hm4n> usr13, the package has the wrong version !
[13:10] <usr13> bu5hm4n: Again, you should be able to fix that.  sudo apt-get clean
[13:10] <usr13> bu5hm4n: I have to go now. (Have work to do.)  ttyl
[13:10] <kingplusplus> usr13, ok thanks
[13:11] <kingplusplus> keep you guys posted
[13:11] <bu5hm4n> usr13, the package is not in the repository !
[13:11] <bu5hm4n> usr13, bye ! :)
[13:15] <krupa> Hi there!
[13:16] <krupa> can any one please help with "EFi Disk read error"
[13:16] <krupa> can any one please help with "EFi Disk read error"
[13:16] <krupa> can any one please help with "EFi Disk read error"
[13:16] <krupa> can any one please help with "EFi Disk read error"
[13:18] <krupa> can any one please help with "EFi Disk read error"
[13:21] <hornydevil> Hello.
[13:21] <[Gentoo]> hi
[13:21] <hornydevil> How R U ?
[13:21] <[Gentoo]> scared
[13:22] <hornydevil> Why are you scared ?
[13:22] <Phil42> krupa:  is that happening on when you boot?
[13:22]  * narcos hides behind [Gentoo] 
[13:22] <hornydevil> No, I'm french, but not a boot ^^
[13:23] <Jackall> hello
[13:24] <Jackall> fine thanks
[13:24] <hornydevil> I quit, Goodbye.
[13:25] <Jackall> Me 2
[13:25] <[Gentoo]> me 3
[13:27] <kingplusplus> usr13, [Gentoo] i am trying to install xubuntu now but my problem is that, i clicked try i am able to see two drives as my hdd is 1tb and on desktop i see 455bn (Which is my unallocated partition) and 500GB which is my windows partition. But wile trying to install i see whole drive as 1tb without the partition listed like sda and sda1
[13:28] <astroduck> Hi! I upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 from 13.04 a few weeks ago And since then when I wake it up from hibernate, it goes on standby. Is this a common problem or is it just me?
[13:29] <Phil42> i don't know anything about that
[13:34] <theManag3R> Hello, I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu 13.10 with ASUS UEFI Bios. It is a Z87 board. The issue is not in boot order, and not in the image itself, since it boots properly with another computer. The way it goes: it boots to the windows where I can select whether to try ubuntu, install ubuntu, install "OEM?" or check the USB. When I select "Install Ubuntu" it jumps to the Ubuntu loading screen, and in about 5 seconds, computer reboots and comp
[13:41] <Munster> g'day
[13:50] <bjorn96> how do i restore boot in windows 8.1?
[13:51] <llutz> bjorn96: /join ##windows        and ask again
[13:51] <bjorn96> ok
[13:51] <Guest72405> Hello can any one tell me how to add an external drive formated ext4 to fslab
[13:52] <bjorn96> i forgot to say "after deleting grub". sry
[13:55] <webgen> hey guys is anyone here familiar how to make window snap in lubuntu?
[13:56] <bjorn96> llutz, no one answers me..
[14:00] <bjorn96> hello0
[14:02] <swizgard> hi. how long may it take for a bug report to be acknowledged in launchpad?
[14:02] <tyler_d> happy friday everyone :) http://i.imgur.com/OVSgxyV.jpg
[14:02] <tyler_d> swizgard: all depends on how many people are involved in it.. even then it could be never
[14:04] <bjorn96> how do i restore boot in windows 8.1 after deleting grub menu? i know the its a command to use, but what?
[14:04] <swizgard> tyler_d: it's cups. my impression is that there is no place to really get heard when it comes to bugs in cups
[14:04] <Munster> bjorn96, why did you delete grub?
[14:04] <swizgard> and it's annoying probably easy to fix issue, too
[14:05] <bjorn96> Munster, i haven yet, but i think i will if it goes wrong with install of mint.
[14:08] <unrock> bjorn96: It used to be "fixmbr" from the windows recovery console, but I don't know if that still works for win8
[14:08] <Munster> bjorn96, run sudo update-grub, that should put W8 into the menu
[14:09] <unrock> Munster: probably a better idea than mine! fixmbr would wipe grub completely
[14:09] <bjorn96> i incert the dvd for win8 and open command. then im supposed to type bootrec.exe / something its that something i want to know. :P
[14:10] <Munster> bjorn96, sry, never heard of that
[14:10] <bjorn96> ok
[14:11] <llutz> bjorn96: still offtopic here, but http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/2013/12/how-to-repair-the-efi-bootloader-in-windows-8/#.UxCY9HX5MiQ
[14:12] <Munster> it's proly UEFI thing and I don't use it, I install OSs in the legacy mode, less troublesome
[14:12] <bjorn96> yeye
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> bjorn96: you need to boot to the CD if you want to reinstate the Windows boot loader to the drive
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> bjorn96: the guys in ##windows will help with that
[14:14] <bjorn96> i have found what i need, thanks. :D
[14:29] <kleus> hey guys i need help
[14:30] <kleus> i have two screens that work in different resolutions yet nvidia seems to count the second monitor as an extension of the first
[14:30] <kleus> instead of being a different monitor by itself
[14:30] <kleus> i have nvidia 331 and nvidia-prime installed
[14:31] <kleus> i was wondering if i could get a hand fixing this
[14:31] <zetheroo> is anyone here using 14.04 .. if so how is it? ...
[14:33] <TeraJL> is there any way to something like this? http://hothardware.com/cs/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer.Components.UserFiles.00.00.00.91.98/volume-mixer.jpg_2D00_600x450.jpg by app or terminal
[14:36] <Satan8> hello
[14:36] <Satan8> why are my youtube videos running really slow
[14:36] <h4k1m> hello guys
[14:36] <Satan8> even playing mp3s is a problem
[14:36] <Satan8> or downloading them
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> kleus: do you have a switching GPU?
[14:37] <Satan8> they keep breaking up even when it has fully loaded the media
[14:37] <h4k1m> is there a way to install ubuntu mobile on my samsung android phone?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Satan8: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: pulse does that
[14:38] <Satan8> ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Satan8: have you tried the Unity2D session?
[14:38] <Satan8> nope
[14:38] <Satan8> is that a desktop manager ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Satan8: its a session selectable from the login screen
[14:39] <kleus> I have two monitors, but on the nvidia xserver screen it's shown as 1 large monitor, how can i fix this?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Satan8: you'll use metacity wm instead of compiz
[14:39] <Satan8> ill try it out
[14:39] <Satan8> that means i need to log out and log into
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Satan8: yes, see if its the same there too
[14:40] <TeraJL> ActionParsnip: can you help me how?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: http://i.stack.imgur.com/LfOh3.png
[14:43] <kleus> so i figure i have to add my external monitor to the xorg.conf?
[14:43] <kleus> how to i do that?
[14:43] <kleus> shouldn't nvidia detect my external monitor automaticaly?
[14:44] <satan_> nah its not helping
[14:44] <satan_> i switched to the 2D
[14:44] <satan_> perhaps my flash player dint install properly ?
[14:44] <satan_> i dont know why it takes so much time to install the flash player
[14:44] <satan_> i havnt actually got a screen saying ..flash player was installed
[14:45] <satan_> so it could be that
[14:45] <satan_> i dont know if playing soundcloud also needs flash player
[14:45] <satan_> ubuntu is a fine operating system ...except for the little things you need to get invovled into
[14:45] <satan_> like setting things up ..which windows carry the banner for
[14:46] <satan_> at one point i could not install any application without having low speed
[14:46] <satan_> then someone told me to just change th emirrors
[14:46] <satan_> and it worked
[14:46] <satan_> little things like that..if i dont know about it ..i wont have an idea..but changing them makes i run perfect
[14:47] <satan_> i installed ubuntu hoping flash and such would be default installed
[14:47] <satan_> multimedia would be available and easy to use
[14:47] <satan_> without any problems
[14:47] <kleus> satan_, it drives me nuts
[14:48] <satan_> i know but thats the burden of having something free
[14:48] <roald> There was a box you could tick during install which installs most of the codecs
[14:48] <satan_> plus linux was more of a hobbies poerating system
[14:48] <satan_> i did that roald
[14:48] <roald> dvds took an extra line in the terminal for me
[14:49] <satan_> it wwas third party apps to install..so i could run multimedia
[14:49] <satan_> mosto  fthem
[14:49] <satan_> i really appreaciate what the linux comunity is doing
[14:49] <satan_> really
[14:49] <satan_> my interest falls into cheap and experimental
[14:49] <satan_> and thats where linux rules
[14:49] <tyler_d> I like linux because toast
[14:49] <roald> ah, ok - linux can be a bit funny when supporting multimedia
[14:49] <roald> toast is good
[14:50] <satan_> ill break my teeth chewing on iron
[14:50] <satan_> but what can i do about running multimedia
[14:50] <satan_> do you guys have problems to ?
[14:50] <tyler_d> nope
[14:50] <satan_> just basic mp3 playing
[14:50] <satan_> ahh shizz
[14:51] <satan_> what version are you running ?
[14:51] <satan_> is it 13 ?
[14:51] <tyler_d> I have 4 machines running from 10 all the way up to 13
[14:51] <satan_> 14 perhaps
[14:51] <roald> um...mp3 should be no problem...(12.04)
[14:51] <satan_> so they all work just fine
[14:51] <satan_> good
[14:51] <satan_> yea
[14:51] <satan_> same here
[14:51] <satan_> some problem somewhere
[14:51] <satan_> no idea how to fix it
[14:51] <shafox>  /j #emberjs
[14:52] <tyler_d> shafox: fail
[14:52] <llutz> !enter | satan_
[14:52] <Gabriel403> Is it possible to ask apt to download but not install a package? so when installing it's cached?
[14:52] <llutz> Gabriel403: -d
[14:52] <shafox> tyler_d, sad
[14:52] <tyler_d> apt-get install -d
[14:52] <Gabriel403> Thanks!
[14:52] <tyler_d> shafox: :) you were so close though
[14:53] <Mattias> I'm trying to run guard under Ubuntu 13.10 and saving files with VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Jan 29 2014 13:10:12). The problem is, after saving a coffeescript file, it compiles and creates the js file, then instantly removes the js file. Seems to be a linux specific issue. Has anyone found a fix for this?  More info here:
[14:53] <Mattias> https://github.com/netzpirat/guard-coffeescript/issues/28#issuecomment-36354950  (everyone with a problem has used ubuntu)
[14:53] <ignaciouy_> Hi al
[14:53] <shafox> tyler_d, just missed by extra space
[14:53] <shafox> tyler_d, 9gag meme:: close enough
[14:53] <tyler_d> lol
[14:53] <ignaciouy_> I have a mac book pro, and I want to install ubuntu on it and dont remove mac os x, is there any way?
[14:54] <Pessimist> dual boot, ignaciouy_ ?
[14:54] <ignaciouy_> Pessimist: yeah, and maybe -3 boot with windows- but I need ubuntu right now
[14:55] <ignaciouy_> btw
[14:55] <ignaciouy_> I installed it Ubuntu Gnome
[14:55] <ignaciouy_> but I'm trying to boot t
[14:55] <Pessimist> ignaciouy_, reduce the size of os x partitions, create a few new ones and install ubuntu on them. You might want to try running ubuntu in virtualbox if a lower performance is not an issue for you
[14:56] <ignaciouy_> my laptop is i7 but idk xD
[14:56] <ignaciouy_> I installed Ubuntu Gnome now.
[14:56] <ignaciouy_> But this didnt show much, only a gray screen
[14:57] <kleus> ok
[14:57] <kleus> i need help
[14:57] <kleus> how can i use xrandr to force a resolution on a monitor?
[14:59] <ignaciouy_> Anyone?
[14:59] <ignaciouy_> http://pbrd.co/OJKiYJ Only gray screen
[14:59] <tyler_d> !patience
[14:59] <ignaciouy_> :(
[14:59] <pop> alguem falan portugues?
[15:00] <DJones> !pt | pop
[15:00]  * ignaciouy_ try to start ubuntu from recovery mode
[15:01] <ignaciouy_> wow
[15:01] <ignaciouy_> This is slowly
[15:01] <ignaciouy_> "node #0, CPUS: #1" and nothing more
[15:02] <CesarMadrid42> hola
[15:02] <ignaciouy_> !es | CesarMadrid42
[15:04] <grog> i broke sshd and it's not starting up, where does it log to?
[15:04] <ikonia> syslog
[15:04] <ikonia> and the console
[15:04] <tyler_d> grog: what do you mean you broke it... how did you break it
[15:05] <grog> not permanently, just setting some sftp/chroot options and it refuses to start
[15:05] <DustyCrusty> Hey guys. I did something wrong with iptables and know I can't connect to my virtual machine via ssh. How can I recover?
[15:05] <grog> nothing in syslog
[15:06] <llutz> DustyCrusty: revert what you made wrong with iptable
[15:06] <Wilkim> hello, how are you guys?
[15:06] <tyler_d> fantasticle
[15:06] <DustyCrusty> Ilutz: But how? I can't access the virtual machine via ssh?
[15:06] <iptable> llutz, you rang?
[15:06] <Wilkim> I have a development server using ubuntu-server running nginx, phpmyadmin and all. We use "sudo git" commands, and I am trying to combine our various development machines into one
[15:06] <tyler_d> lol
[15:07] <DustyCrusty> iptable: How can I recover you? :)
[15:07] <iptable> DustyCrusty, reboot. that will remove the rules. if you locked out, you locked out
[15:07] <Wilkim> is it possible for multiple ppl to use: "sudo git" while maintaining different users
[15:07] <iptable> DustyCrusty, I am beyond recovery :D
[15:07] <pop> #ubuntu-br
[15:07] <kleus> hey guys when i try to change he resolution using xrandr it says the resource is unavaiable on xserver. Why is that?
[15:07] <kleus> how can i change the resolution on xserver?
[15:07] <Wilkim> like user: mark uses it, and bit-bucket/github lists it as the right person
[15:07] <DustyCrusty> I was playing with iptables, and then I was kicked..
[15:08] <iptable> DustyCrusty, just executing iptables command line? eiher connect to console or reboot. not other way. If you made the changes permanent usin ufw or some script of yours, you need console.
[15:10] <DustyCrusty> iptable: ok
[15:10] <Na3iL> hey all
[15:11] <ignaciouy_> ok guys
[15:11] <ignaciouy_> thx anyway
[15:15] <gordonjcp> is there a PPA for a supported version of uwsgi in Ubuntu?
[15:17] <BPSTravis> So I made a Ubuntu installer flash drive using universalusb installer. I boot the machine and the only options I get are memory check/recover no install option. Any ideas what I am missing?
[15:18] <BPSTravis> 12.04 LTS serer.
[15:18] <tyler_d> BPSTravis: use dd
[15:18] <gordonjcp> BPSTravis: use dd
[15:18]  * gordonjcp is ditching Ubuntu Server
[15:18] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: for?
[15:18] <kleus> its driving me nuts that i can't fix my dual screen setup
[15:18] <BPSTravis> I don;t have a native linux host
[15:19] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: don't know yet, something that I can run a web server on
[15:19] <tyler_d> BPSTravis: :( makes me sad
[15:19] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: Ubuntu doesn't support uwsgi
[15:19] <BPSTravis> Heh, I can't help it :/ I guess I could make a VM quick
[15:19] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: I don't want to use "hand-compiled" stuff
[15:19] <BPSTravis> Everything here is windows based
[15:20] <BPSTravis> Why would I ned to use DD, i've used universal usb installer before without any issues :/
[15:20] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: umm... I found it for 12.04
[15:20] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: nope
[15:20] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: that's an old, unsupported version that just plain doesn't work
[15:21] <tyler_d> BPSTravis: hrmm. I would say try your method again, be sure to check the iso's md5sum as well
[15:21] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: uwsgi 1.4 is the oldest LTS
[15:21] <siberiannerd> where can i ask some questions about cross-compiling and package building process for armhf arch using emdebian toolchain?
[15:22] <TPS> Salut !
[15:23] <catopett> Looking for UBUNTU for HAMRADIO use
[15:24] <gordonjcp> catopett: what sort of things do you want to do?
[15:24] <DJones> catopett: This link might well of use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHams Looks like there is an Ubuntu team with its own IRC channel
[15:26] <catopett> gordonjcp > I am looking for all kind of hamradiorelated ubuntu, or kububntu
[15:26] <arayaq> siberiannerd: Their website says they have a mailing list
[15:26] <Pici> catopett: Theres also a pretty big ham presence on freenode, in ##hamradio , they might have some app suggestions as well.
[15:26] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: why not just compile from source though? what is wrong with that?
[15:26] <BPSTravis> tyler_d: Says MD5's are th same, here goes nothing :/ Maybe the third time is the charm.
[15:27] <tyler_d> BPSTravis: I have had very mixed results with live usb's tbh
[15:27] <arayaq> siberiannerd: debian-embedded@lists.debian.org
[15:27] <BPSTravis> tyler_d: Sadly I have no blank CD's. BEtween offices right now :/
[15:27] <DJones> catopett: Also join #ubuntu-hams thats the Ham radio teams IRC channel according to their team page, if anybody knows, the people there will probably be the best ones to speak to
[15:28] <BPSTravis> tyler_d: All i've got is a laptop and some flash drives and a server rack :P
[15:28] <siberiannerd> arayaq, thank you for pointing that out, but the question not worth it, because i will deal with it today or will find some workaround eventually, but thanks
[15:29] <arayaq> siberiannerd: mail is a quick workaround ;)
[15:29] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: I don't want to have to build custom packages
[15:30] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: and I don't want to have a full install of gcc on a server
[15:30] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: if you aren't willing to do those things...(should do it on a prod server) then you are correct maybe an rpm distro would have them "pre-compiled" for you?
[15:31] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: possibly
[15:31] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: that should say (should not do it on a prod server_)
[15:31] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: I've been increasingly concerned about the stability of Ubuntu LTS for a while
[15:31] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: I personally don't see a problem with compiling packages? it's a bit more lengthy however the advantage is that you know how it is built
[15:31] <siberiannerd> arayaq, the thing is that i wanted to solve it myself, it only requires showing some directions, i can't bother mailing lists which, as far as i know, being read by maintainers, i just need to ask the right question to myself with the help of community and deal with it reading manpages, i thought that irc is ideal for that
[15:31] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: "not changing stuff" seems to have trumped "not being broken"
[15:32] <catopett> Why does KUBUNTU have more support for hardware then gnome has?
[15:32] <gordonjcp> tyler_d: it's a waste of time
[15:32] <gordonjcp> catopett: it doesn't
[15:32] <gordonjcp> catopett: the underying OS is identical, it's just got a different desktop environment
[15:33] <tyler_d> gordonjcp: I don't have an answer for you; part of the disadvantage to open source I can only assume.
[15:33] <catopett> Yes it does, i tryed GNOME and got NO soundcard for instance, but with KUBUNTU i got the soundcart working good
[15:33] <arayaq> siberiannerd: you're right in that. The problem is that AFAIK there isn't a IRC related to them
[15:33] <gordonjcp> catopett: that's literally not possible
[15:34] <gordonjcp> catopett: there is absolutely no functional difference between the two distros
[15:34] <catopett> Tell me why then
[15:34] <gordonjcp> catopett: you can even install KDE desktop on "normal" Ubuntu and vice-versa
[15:34] <gordonjcp> catopett: possibly because you had something not set up properly?  Maybe the volume was turned down?
[15:34] <catopett> Yes but with KDE i got soundcard working, not with GNOME
[15:34] <arayaq> siberiannerd: ignore that last thing: ##debian-embedded on selenoid.oftc.net
[15:35] <siberiannerd> arayaq, well, i would gladly listen about other ways of doing it, if there is someone who used to do it himself and being ready to spend some priceless minutes of his time, that is why i'm asking for backup from raspberrypi community as well
[15:35] <gordonjcp> catopett: what did you try, to find out why there was no sound?
[15:35] <siberiannerd> arayaq, thank you for that!
[15:35] <catopett> The same problem do i have with the wifi
[15:36] <gordonjcp> catopett: sounds like you need to start learning to ask the right questions first
[15:36] <catopett> I love UBUNTU
[15:36] <catopett> the right questions first is?
[15:37] <arayaq> siberiannerd: you are welcome and good luck!
[15:38] <meomic> hey, im trying to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10 (using sudo upgrade-manager -d) and i am getting this error 'could not calculate upgrade' - is there a way to overcome this?  and yes i know 14.04 is not yet released and that it possibly has some bugs etc. - i know what i am doing
[15:38] <MarkDavies> Hi
[15:38] <catopett> How do i get OSX-looking on ubuntu?
[15:39] <MarkDavies> Hi
[15:39] <MarkDavies> support for wi-fi is completely independent on modem used?
[15:39] <roald> catopett: try noobslabs macbuntu tutorial
[15:39] <catopett> ok
[15:39] <sajan> catopett: Try using the radiance theme for a start.
[15:40] <roald> catopett: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/06/mac-os-x-lion-theme-for-ubuntu.html
[15:40] <Slart> meomic: there used to be a channel called #ubuntu+1 for help with a coming version
[15:40] <catopett> i cannot find out why the wi-fi does not work in GNOME but work in KDE
[15:40] <meomic> Slart: ah oke, didnt know, thanks
[15:40] <Slart> meomic: you're welcome
[15:40] <BPSTravis> tyler_d: still no dice :/
[15:41] <HoHo> ::
[15:41] <BPSTravis> tyler_d: what would stop it from offering me an install option?
[15:43] <john_rambo> Is there any tool with which I can download Google books ?
[15:44] <eugd> is there any way to log in to an ubuntuforums account that existed before 'ubuntu one'?
[15:44] <eugd> i have an account, 'emugod', but now the login for the forums redirects to ubuntu one
[15:44] <Pici> eugd: probably best to ask the folks in #ubuntuforums
[15:44] <DJones> eugd: Probably best asking in #ubuntuforums somebody there might have an idea, from memory, I don't think you'll be able to though
[15:45] <mashendarto> ehhmm
[15:45] <eugd> ok sorry didn't realize it had it's own irc
[15:45] <catopett> eugd, There is many IRC-clients in UBUNTU
[15:45] <gordonjcp> this is incredible
[15:46] <gordonjcp> uwsgi 1.4 won't even build on Ubuntu 12.04 because *everything* is too old
[15:46] <catopett> Is there something called HAMBUNTU?
[15:47] <gordonjcp> and 13.10 seems to still be pre-alpha
[15:48] <catopett> Someone there is Norwegian here?
[15:49] <Pici> !no
[15:49] <catopett> Someone that is radioham in here?
[15:49] <gordonjcp> catopett: probably quite a few, why?
[15:50] <catopett> Cause i am, and want to chat with others radioham
[15:51] <gordonjcp> catopett: you could try ##hamradio
[15:51] <gordonjcp> catopett: or, you know, fire up your radio equipment
[15:52] <catopett> Why is it ## in front of hamradio
[15:52] <cyford> hi  i have inalled java    but its not working on my browsers
[15:52] <cyford> *Installed
[15:54] <catopett> Cannot send to channel: ##hamradio
[15:57] <Pici> catopett: you need to be reigstered and identified to speak there.
[15:57] <Pici> !register | catopett
[15:57] <catopett> I have used IRC since 1989
[15:57] <catopett> So i know
[15:58] <gordonjcp> catopett: you need to be registered
[15:58] <catopett> Ok
[15:59] <catopett> !register
[16:00] <sgo11> hi, when I run firefox and google-chrome, it will report segmentation fault. can not be run. but with 'sudo', they can be run successfully. any ideas? thanks.
[16:02] <catopett>  /msg nickserv register 5eiknygt catopett@yahoo.no
[16:03] <sajan> I'm pretty sure that happens at least once a day.
[16:03] <Pici> catopett: you probably want to use a different password, and not put a space in front of your command so that the rest of us don't have to see it.
[16:04] <sajan> catopett: Please, oh PLEASE go and change your yahoo password right now if that's what it is.
[16:05] <HoHo> ^_^
[16:05] <MarkDavies> I don't actually know where to ask this question - free VPSes - do they really exist?
[16:05] <ikonia> MarkDavies: not here, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic ? or ##hardware
[16:05] <ikonia> maybe #defocus
[16:05] <MarkDavies> thanks
[16:08] <arayaq> MarkDavies: let me know if you find one
[16:08] <ubuntu1> have a massive problem---partial HD failure, running on USB....I have a copy of ISO on a flash card but running under "try Ubuntu" I cant get the card recognized,  also have a prob. installing from USB -  error " ubi-partman has failed with exit code 10"
[16:10] <satan_> so no real way to solve my multimedia problem
[16:11] <bodhi_zazen> ubuntu1: sounds as if you need a new hard drive, probably not something you can fix
[16:11] <satan_> cant play mp3 or flash videos without then jamming
[16:12] <satan_> how do i reinstall flash on this system ?
[16:12] <ubuntu1> bodhi: is the iso on the USB not checking the hard drive because it sees an OS on it already?
[16:14] <bodhi_zazen> ubuntu1: why would the usb check the hard drive ? you can try fsck, but sounds as if your hard drive is dead
[16:15] <satan_> whyyy
[16:15] <bodhi_zazen> !sound | satan_
[16:15] <satan_> okay i am uninstalling flash and reinstalling it
[16:15] <tyler_d> why
[16:16] <tyler_d> ffs, solve the problem you actually have by investigating and asking the right questions... don't simply re-install
[16:16] <satan_> does it take tons of time to remove and install flash
[16:16] <satan_> because thats what happening on my system
[16:16] <satan_> and there isnt even a proper bar ..that shows me the progress
[16:17] <roald> satan_: depends how fast your internet is, it shouldn't take too long
[16:17] <satan_> its preety fast but dont know why this one is slow
[16:17] <satan_> everything elese i install ..happens in a flash
[16:17] <satan_> stuff thats about 20 mb and above..install in no time
[16:18] <satan_> but the flash player seems to be a really slow install
[16:18] <satan_> perhaps its the mirrors
[16:18] <roald> satan_: you have some weird stuff going on there dude...
[16:18] <satan_> yea
[16:20] <terrasapien> i choose to do a dist-upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 only because 13.04 was no longer doing any updates
[16:20] <terrasapien> i didn't want to do it because I know . . .
[16:20] <terrasapien> and yes, KDE no longer works
[16:20] <satan_> KDE needs some milk
[16:20] <terrasapien> who do I bribe?
[16:22] <satan_> i cant get flash to install
[16:22] <terrasapien> KDE will will boot up after the hideous blood stain splash screen, and the "this OS is an error" error drum roll
[16:22] <terrasapien> but it's flat, no movable windows, no kicker
[16:22] <satan_> thats what you get for free ?
[16:23] <Guest75104> i heard that microsoft will buy ubuntu?!
[16:23] <satan_> ubuntu is good enought...why not
[16:24] <satan_> hopefully they will make it a cheaper alternative to windows
[16:24] <Guest75104> yeah
[16:24] <satan_> and add all that windows goodies to it
[16:24] <Ben64> !ot
[16:24] <setra> hi guys, I like to mount a directory read only to another mount point, but the other mount point contains files. so I would like to meld both, and deltas get written into the directory. how can that be established? oh..if files exist on the mount point the newer files should overrule older ro files
[16:24] <BlackBoxCoder> i heard that facebook will buy microsoft and Linux ;)
[16:24] <terrasapien> i know when i see the trade mark "dried blood on a slide" *"artwork"* slash screen, and hear the error drum roll that I'm not going to have much success
[16:24] <satan_> so its true
[16:25] <Guest75104> BlackBoxCoder, and twitter will buy google
[16:25] <Ben64> terrasapien, satan_, BlackBoxCoder: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ... keep this channel clear for actual support
[16:25] <satan_> we are doing to the age where we were afraif of microsot monopoly on operating systems ..now its going to be the web
[16:25] <satan_> hide
[16:25] <satan_> sorry
[16:25] <BlackBoxCoder> sorry for OT
[16:26] <terrasapien> Ben64, how can I get KDE to work properly after upgrading?
[16:26] <Guest75104> is ubuntu based on debian or debian is based on ubuntu
[16:26] <webgen> hey guys I cant run mysql package after installing .deb ... its in /opt/mysql dir how do i run it?
[16:27] <webgen> Guest75104 ubuntu is based on debian
[16:27] <Guest75104> thanks
[16:27] <siberiannerd> webgen, via `service mysql start`
[16:28] <Pici> webgen: what deb? Did you not install mysql from Ubuntu's repositories?
[16:28] <webgen> Pici ubuntu rep mysql is old
[16:29] <webgen> siberiannerd, it doesnt see mysql as installed thats the problem. I know the directory it is installed in though, i still cant run it :S
[16:29] <kingplusplus> please i need help installing xubuntu, i have 3 partitions one for windows and 2 unallocated, when i click to install in the free space which i created as unallogated after installing windows it says no root file is defined... please how do i fix this?
[16:30] <xpistos> Hello All. I have a NFS share that was not mounted and something got copied to a local version of the folder. I have remounted the folder so the NFS is back in place, but I need to get the files that are on the local version of the folder. How can I do that?
[16:30] <siberiannerd> webgen, i'd recommend you to install it in a different way, the proper one is from repos, what is `cat /etc/lsb-release` of yours?
[16:31] <llutz> xpistos: umount the nfs to gain access to the underlaying dirs/files
[16:31] <webgen> siberiannerd it is ubuntu 13.10 but actually its lubuntu
[16:31] <xpistos> llutz: like umount FILE_LOCATION
[16:31] <siberiannerd> webgen, what version of mysql do you need?
[16:32] <cyford> hi,  i installed sun java,  and it is installed however my  firefox doesnt see it
[16:32] <cyford> installed using  sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[16:32] <webgen> siberiannerd i dont need specific but i thought 5.6 would be better idea
[16:32] <xpistos> llutz: do I have to force it?
[16:33] <siberiannerd> webgen, if you don't have any special requirements which make you to switch to the different version instead of shipped one over repos - use the one from repos, there is a reason for that often
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> cyford: https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> cyford: does it show there?
[16:37] <cyford>  We are unable to verify if Java is currently installed and enabled in your browser.
[16:37] <llutz> xpistos: to prevent that in future, "sudo chmod 000 /mountpoint"  when it's NOT mounted
[16:38] <cyford> aford@CyfordAsus:~$ java -version
[16:38] <cyford> java version "1.8.0"
[16:38] <cyford> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-b129)
[16:38] <cyford> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.0-b69, mixed mode)
[16:38] <xpistos> llutz: thanis
[16:39] <webgen> siberiannerd ok thanks dude will install the 5.5 :P
[16:39] <effedetto> Hello !
[16:40] <effedetto> !list
[16:41] <siberiannerd> webgen, maintainers often include some certain versions of packets, after testing and stuff, so have a bit of trust, they keep an eye on it, i swear lol, until you meet some extra situations
[16:42] <webgen> siberiannerd will do xD....
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> cyford: if you use:   about:config   in firefox, do you see Java listed?
[16:43] <cyford> no
[16:43] <cyford> its on system,  but not  firefox
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of:   sudo updatedb; locate libnpjp2.so
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> cyford: it will take a little while
[16:45] <cyford> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[16:45] <cyford> /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[16:46] <cyford> i just tryed 8
[16:46] <jang> hey all. Just done an upgrade, 12.04 -> 13.10. During that process my /etc/cups/mime.convs has disappeared. Does anyone know what package brings that? At the moment I can't convert any format for output.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> cyford: run:  mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> cyford: then close all browsers and rerun
[16:48] <cyford> nope
[16:49] <cyford> also 64bit system  with 32 bit firefox i think
[16:50] <rodd> hi, whenever i try to delete a file I get "xx cant be put in the trash. do you want to delete it immediately?" Any ideas on what's wrong?
[16:51] <moro> Hey guys
[16:51] <webgen> rodd it might be too big for trash?
[16:51] <rodd> webgen: a few kbs
[16:51] <webgen> rodd just use shift-delete on it, might just be a weird file
[16:51] <rodd> webgen: happens to all types
[16:52] <xangua> jang: you mean you did a clean install of 13.10¿
[16:52] <webgen> rodd then I dont know :S
[16:53] <cyford> Any other idea's   pls
[16:54] <jang> xangua: no; I did an in-place dist-upgrade. Actually, during that the cups system wedged, so I had to apt-get remove a load of it before the dist-upgrade would complete
[16:55] <rodd> webgen: got it, root owned my local trash
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> cyford: ahh then you will want the 32bit Java, the package system will see your 64bit OS and install 64bit Java which wont work in 32bit firefox
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> cyford: why are you not using 64bit Firefox?
[16:56] <webgen> rodd glad your resolved it ^.^
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of:  file `which firefox`
[16:56] <cyford> i didnt think there was a 64 bit firefox lol
[16:56] <daftykins> ^nor me
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> cyford: sudo apt-get install firefox    will install 64bit firefox if you have a 64bit OS
[16:57] <cyford> yes
[16:57] <cyford> aford@CyfordAsus:~$ which firefox
[16:57] <cyford> /usr/bin/firefo
[16:57] <cyford> /usr/bin/firefox
[16:57] <daftykins> x
[16:57] <daftykins> ;D
[16:58] <daftykins> and if you run file on it?
[16:58] <gregf_> hi, my home is about to run out of space(guest os in vbox). i've resized the disc and added 30G more
[16:58] <gregf_> i was looking for adding 20 gigs to my home and leave the rest
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> cyford: that isnt the command I gave
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of:  file `which firefox`
[16:58] <jang> ah-ha. Copied /usr/share/cups/mime/mime.* to /etc/cups and restarted the cups service - that seems to have got it
[16:59] <daftykins> gregf_: righty-o, you can add a second disk to mount as /home, boot the ISO into live mode then format, partition and edit the mounts to make the second disk /home then
[16:59] <cyford> aford@CyfordAsus:~$ which firefox
[16:59] <cyford> /usr/bin/firefox
[16:59] <gregf_> i saw some links how to do it using gparted, but none were quite clear please if someone could help :/
[16:59] <cyford> aford@CyfordAsus:~$ `which firefox`
[16:59] <cyford> (process:6329): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[16:59] <daftykins> gregf_: so have you added a second virtual HDD to the system yet?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cyford: the command is:   file `which firefox`
[17:00] <daftykins> cyford: can you stop pasting things to the channel please.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cyford: the command is NOT:    which firefox
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cyford: the command is NOT:  `which firefox`
[17:00] <cyford> the second paste is corrected
[17:00] <ayoobkhan> i m new to irc.. is it just lik a forum?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cyford: why are you not copying and pasteing the command I gave
[17:00] <daftykins> ayoobkhan: more like IM
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cyford: no it's not, thet is not the output of:   file `which firefox`
[17:01] <cyford> action  the second paste was corrected
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> cyford: the word 'file' is a command
[17:01] <cyford> oic
[17:01] <gregf_> daftykins: well, thats what i want to do. but my home atm is 9G, i wanted to increase it by 20G. is it possible as well?
[17:01] <gregf_> daftykins: nope, not a second disk. i've just resized my previous disk image
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> cyford: ok you are clearly struggling with this so I'll make it easier
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of:   file /usr/bin/firefox
[17:01] <cyford> /usr/bin/firefox: symbolic link to `../lib/firefox/firefox.sh'
[17:02] <ayoobkhan> ahh good..
[17:02] <daftykins> gregf_: what do you see if you run gparted right now?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> cyford: THAT is what the command:  file `which firefox`   would have outputted
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> cyford: see the difference
[17:02] <cyford> yes
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> cyford: in future COPY the command given
[17:02] <cyford>   usually  i see quots  or them sybols  i use whats in it lol
[17:03] <cyford> ok
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.sh
[17:04] <cyford> http://pastebin.com/qqCipiUH
[17:04] <gregf_> daftykins: http://postimg.org/image/71imwsgz7/c5a8270c/  <== this is what gparted shows me
[17:04] <gregf_> daftykins: i needed to add more space(from unallocated) to my home primary partition
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of:  file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[17:06] <linuxlite1983> ola
[17:06] <daftykins> gregf_: ah, swap's in the way. ideally it'd be best to just make that unallocated space into /home and move it then
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> just had to install firefox to see the files
[17:06] <linuxlite1983> linux mint debian ????
[17:06] <tyler_d> starting vpn from network-manager(openvpn) spits out the base device for the vpn connection was not active... (confirmed this configuration works from term using openvpn --config myconfigfile start
[17:06] <gregf_> daftykins: please if you could provide a link :/
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite1983: not supported here
[17:06] <daftykins> gregf_: right click on that unallocated space and select to create a new ext4 partition
[17:07] <cyford> (process:6836): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[17:07] <gregf_> ok
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> cyford: again, you missed the word 'file'
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> cyford: what is the output of:  file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[17:07] <palOmbO> tar xvzf advanced_menu.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[17:07] <cyford>  lol opps
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> *sigh*
[17:07]  * tyler_d chuckles
[17:07]  * daftykins slides ActionParsnip a coffee
[17:07] <gregf_> daftykins: should i allocate 15 gigs to it? and choose primary_partition?
[17:08] <Mihson> Hey guys. When I execute "lsmod | grep ip", then I see that "iptables-"-kernel-modules are not loaded. But I can use the "iptables" command. What happens if the iptables modules are not loaded?
[17:08] <cyford> http://pastebin.com/V9YPPRFV
[17:08] <daftykins> gregf_: extended and all of the space available, should already be the max number for all 20GB in there
[17:08] <gregf_> daftykins: so allocate it all?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> cyford: then your firefox is 64bit
[17:08] <cyford> ohh  so it is 64 bit
[17:08] <cyford> :)
[17:09] <daftykins> gregf_: yep
[17:09] <cyford>   so  how i make this java work
[17:09] <abhirup> what are the best features of ubutnu 14.04?
[17:09] <daftykins> !trusty | abhirup
[17:09] <gregf_> daftykins: done
[17:10] <daftykins> gregf_: now you're going to need to attach the ubuntu ISO you downloaded to the VM again, then boot into LiveCD mode
[17:10] <Mihson> can anyone help?
[17:10] <Wilkim> hello, I installed dnsmasq on ubuntu server 13.10, configured some things in my /etc/hosts file, restarted dnsmasq, but I can't ping the new domains I added to the hosts file
    Any idea why java not working?
[17:10] <gregf_> daftykins: so shutdown and attach the iso?
[17:10] <daftykins> gregf_: yep
[17:11] <gregf_> daftykins:ok, and what about my prevous home partition files?
[17:11] <daftykins> gregf_: we'll move them over so don't worry about that for now
[17:12] <Wilkim> anyone have any advice? :(
[17:12] <gregf_> daftykins:sure
[17:13] <gregf_> daftykins: ok i've loaded the iso now
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Wilkim: can you ping the IPs ?
[17:13] <abhirup> hello guyz....whats are the best features of 14.04??
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> abhirup: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:13] <Wilkim> no, says no host found
[17:13] <daftykins> gregf_: so boot into 'try ubuntu' mode and reach the desktop
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> abhirup: Trusty is not discussed or supported here. It is ALL in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[17:13] <gregf_> adftykins: should i now tick the box live CD as well?
  try   ping 8.8.8.8
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Wilkim: then you have no route to the IP
[17:14] <gregf_> *daftykins:
[17:14] <Wilkim> h/o one second
[17:14] <engammalsko> I'm using php 5.5 and I want to install phpize but it depends on php 5.4 packages. Is there anyway I can keep 5.5 but install packages depending on different versions?
[17:14] <daftykins> gregf_: no real need, just boot up into it
[17:14] <abhirup> can i add my facebook photos to any photo manager in ubuntu?
[17:15] <Wilkim> Here is my host file: http://pastebin.com/YcAVCF4t
[17:15] <gregf_> daftykins: ok, i've clicked on try ubuntu
[17:15] <cyford> did u try ping 8.8.8.8
[17:16] <cyford>  host file should be ip  domain name
[17:17] <Wilkim> yes it works becaause of my network interfaces: http://pastebin.com/WNYPssXB
[17:17] <cyford> 10.1.10.100  dev.phpmyadmin.domain.com
[17:17] <Wilkim> i've also tried adding 127.0.0.1 first in the list too
[17:17] <cyford> ip   domain    ...  not the other way around
[17:18] <gregf_> daftykins: i'm on the desktop now. how would i now make the new partition my primary partition
[17:18] <Mihson> ello?
[17:18] <luigi> prova
[17:18] <Wilkim> i dunno why I put it that way, let me try switching it, thanks
[17:18] <Wilkim> i've done this a thousand times lol..
[17:18] <daftykins> gregf_: so the first thing to do will be to open up a terminal window, (Ctrl+alt+t will work)
[17:19] <gregf_> sure
[17:19] <cyford> type nslookup  google.com
[17:19] <gregf_> daftykins: i can see that the home is now on a different partition :/
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> cyford: nice catch
[17:20] <gregf_> some temporary partition
[17:20] <tyler_d> dig +short @8.8.8.8 yahoo.com
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Wilkim: notice how the localhost lines are, then look at yours
[17:20] <daftykins> gregf_: no it'll still be on the installed ubuntu right now, but you're not booted into the installed ubuntu :P
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Wilkim: other way around, as cyford said
 ty :)
[17:21] <gregf_> daftykins: ok :)
[17:21] <daftykins> gregf_: so does your VM have a working internet connection right now?
[17:21] <gregf_> daftykins: so theres no way to use the previous 10 gigs? i.e can i not add it to the new partition?
[17:22] <gregf_> daftykins : yep
[17:22] <daftykins> gregf_: hrmm well, we might be able to do it that way.
[17:22] <daftykins> gregf_: type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted"
[17:22] <StrangeloveMD> Hah, xchat drops you in #Ubuntu by default.  Never knew.
[17:22] <gregf_> daftykins: i've got gparted
[17:23] <daftykins> gregf_: oh ok it's already installed on the livecd?
[17:23] <gregf_> daftykins: well i installed it using apt-get
  any more thoughts on my java issue?
[17:23] <daftykins> gregf_: on the install though right, not on the livecd? :P
[17:24] <daftykins> gregf_: they both act as completely separate installations. click the dash icon top left anyway and type gparted, it might be there arleady
[17:24] <gregf_> daftykins: well nope not the live cd.
[17:24] <cyford> cyford:  test
[17:25] <gregf_> daftykins: both as in from the live CD and using the package manager?
[17:25] <gregf_> both installations are different?
[17:25] <daftykins> gregf_: ignore the theory behind package management and installs for now and just run gparted if it's there ;)
[17:25] <gregf_> daftykins: done
[17:26] <abhirup> what the best language if i want to develop apps for ubuntu????OR can i use html??is there  any future in  the developer world   if i know html/css/js ?
[17:26] <daftykins> gregf_: so right click the 'linux-swap' partition and select 'swapoff' then right click again and select delete
[17:26] <daftykins> gregf_: then right click delete the one we created at the end too (sda6)
[17:26] <gregf_> this live CD thing is some kind of a layer of abstraction to me. i usually do a sudo spt-get install :/
[17:26] <daftykins> a live environment is a totally in-RAM temporary session
[17:27] <gregf_> daftykins: one at the end? the 20 gig one?
[17:27] <daftykins> software in there will only be what's available in the live session
[17:27] <daftykins> gregf_: yep
[17:27] <abhirup> what the best language if i want to develop apps for ubuntu????OR can i use html??is there  any future in  the developer world   if i know html/css/js ?
[17:27] <gregf_> daftykins: done
[17:27] <daftykins> gregf_: then delete the extended one also
[17:27] <gregf_> daftykins: wont mess things up right :/
[17:28] <daftykins> gregf_: nope
[17:28] <daftykins> gregf_: so now there should only be two entries in the list, sda1 and unallocated.
[17:28] <gregf_> daftykins: the delete option is greyed out
[17:28] <daftykins> for which?
[17:28] <gregf_> daftykins: for the extended one
[17:29] <gregf_> should i turn swap off?
[17:29] <daftykins> did you not already...
[17:29] <satan_> its been an hour now
[17:29] <satan_> and flash hasnt uninstalled
[17:29] <daftykins> gregf_: delete sda6, turn swap off, delete swap (sda5), delete extended
[17:29] <CrazyGangster> !spam
[17:29] <satan_> it says progress window that searching is cancelling
[17:29] <satan_> but it dosnt
[17:29] <satan_> how do i stop searching
[17:30] <satan_> in the ubuntu software center ..it says ..in the progress tab
[17:30] <abhirup> ok than you.......can u plz suggest me some cool  things to customize my ubuntu 13.10
[17:30] <daftykins> gregf_: you may have to click the green tick to apply the changes after deleting the two partitions, but prior to deleting extended
[17:30] <satan_> that searching i cancelling but till that dosnt happen...i cant install or do anything else
[17:30] <gregf_> daftykins: yeah, was wondering if i had to do that after deleting the 20 g partition
[17:31] <satan_> well there is the ability to use a OpenGL desktop manager
[17:32] <daftykins> gregf_: alright, down to just sda1 and unallocated now? :)
[17:36] <daftykins> gregf_: ...
[17:36] <jjavaholic> what app can I use to a write an Audio CD?
[17:36] <daftykins> brasero
[17:40] <pxlvision> hey abhirup
[17:40] <pxlvision> new to ubuntu too?
[17:45] <NET||abuse> hi folks, anyone ever seen a wireless mouse you can recharge from your laptops usb
[17:46] <tmmunq> nope. even hard to find cradles now
[17:46] <NET||abuse> i was thinking a flexible usb to microusb connector on the front of the mouse so you can connect and disconnect the cable from the mouse but also use the mouse while it's pluggedin.
[17:46] <satan_> why would you need that ?
[17:47] <NET||abuse> so i can have a portable mouse i dont need to return to a basestation to keep using.
[17:47] <satan_> just get rechargable batteries
[17:47] <satan_> i dont know if such a mouse exist ..i havnt seen one myself
[17:47] <NET||abuse> so a standard phone microusb charger cable, or a more flexible one, just lets the mouse behave like a regular cabled mouse while charging, but then a nice simple wireless mouse otherwise.
[17:47] <daftykins> NET||abuse: i have this logitech anywhere MX dark field job, a pair of AA's last forever in it
[17:47] <satan_> maybe in china or japan
[17:48] <NET||abuse> daftykins: yeh, i have a logitech with the dock at home, not surif it's the darkfield one at all though
[17:48] <NET||abuse> about 6 years old that mouse
[17:48] <NET||abuse> but it recharges in the cradle so it's handy
[17:49] <satan_> best bet ...look for a chinese electronic store
[17:49] <satan_> they have all sorts of weird things and usefull ones i bet
[17:50] <satan_> hmm funny ...
[17:50] <satan_> i downloaded an mp3 file and now even that wont play
[17:50] <amireldor> satan_: try ogg
[17:55] <amireldor> satan_: and this nickname is very inappropriate. I'll report to you the admins if you don't follow the Ubuntu CoC
[17:56] <yeuri> does ubuntu maverick still have packages in its repo even though its out of date ?
[17:56]  * amireldor why is it so quiet here? my account was hacked and now i'm here
[17:56] <gordonjcp> amireldor: friday teatime, everyone's in the pub
[17:56] <daftykins> yeuri: i would expect its' packages have been removed
[17:57] <amireldor> amireldor: I Come From The Future UTC+2 sir
[17:57] <amireldor> whoa
[17:57] <amireldor> gordonjcp: &&&&
[17:57] <ophuk> in bash if I have a variable called passwd and I wanted to pass passwd to a command with expect/send but the passwd variable contains a $ in it so it's complaining it cant define the last part after the $ - how do I fix this?
[17:58] <daftykins> ophuk: at a guess... i'd talk to #bash
[17:58] <gordonjcp> amireldor: :-)
[17:59] <ophuk> daftykins: I'm in there as well and just asked it. Though they can be a bit slow at answering questions at times due to less people. Figured somebody might know in here -  might also try #redhat
[17:59] <gregf_> daftkins: you still around?
[17:59] <daftykins> yep
[17:59] <daftykins> ah-har netsplit over XD
[17:59] <gregf_> daftkins: the irc server went down :/
[17:59] <daftykins> gregf_: sooo, two items in the list now? :)
[18:00] <gregf_> daftykins: :)
[18:00] <amireldor> gordonjcp: i'm 24/7 like that :-(
[18:00] <gregf_> daftykins: what do i do next :/
[18:00] <daftykins> gregf_: just sda1 and unallocated right now, yes?
[18:01] <gregf_> yep
[18:01] <daftykins> gregf_: so now, right click on sda1 and select resize/move
[18:01] <amireldor> I got 13.10 and my root account has been compromised
[18:01] <gregf_> daftykins: ok, i did that and added the extended with swap :/
[18:01] <amireldor> I think I gave it a password before a few days
[18:01] <daftykins> gregf_: in the window that opens, drag the right hand end of sda1 in the little graphic until there's 1024MB left free at the end
[18:02] <gregf_> daftykins: i've completed that part :/. resized and added the rest
[18:02] <amireldor> can anybody please tell me my IP?
[18:02] <amireldor> so iwon't need to call the poolice/ (Police.)
[18:02] <daftykins> gregf_: you left a gap for swap though yes?
[18:02] <amireldor> It's static.
[18:03] <daftykins> amireldor: why do you think root is compromised? root doesn't have a password as default
[18:03] <gregf_> daftykins: yeah, 1 gig
[18:04] <gregf_> daftykins: mysql does_not start now :/
[18:04] <glitsj16> yeuri: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com should still have them
[18:04] <daftykins> gregf_: you didn't reboot into the install did you? :(
[18:04] <gregf_> daftykins:nope
[18:05] <gregf_> daftykins: when does the user get to see that screen : try ununtu/install ubuntu?
[18:05] <gregf_> daftykins: that itself confuses me, as i've installed ubuntu :/
[18:05] <daftykins> gregf_: on a physical install to the hard disk it never exists.
[18:05] <gregf_> daftykins: i've done a physical install to disk :/
[18:05] <daftykins> gregf_: ok let's focus on the task at hand because i need to be somewhere
[18:05] <gregf_> daftykins: sure
[18:06] <daftykins> gregf_: yes but you're in a temporary live session running in RAM right now
[18:06] <bekks> gregf_: then take out the cdrom/usb install medium.
[18:06] <daftykins> bekks ugh do not interrupt this one :P
[18:06] <daftykins> men at work!
[18:06] <daftykins> gregf_: so right click in the unallocated and create a new extended partition
[18:06] <bekks> kk ;)
[18:06] <amireldor> daftykins
[18:06] <amireldor> daftykins: ok
[18:06] <amireldor> I got your nicnkame. I'm not sure if Xubuntu or Debian
[18:06] <gregf_> daftykins: done, i've created the extended with swap and allocated 1 gig
[18:07] <amireldor> and I might have done sudo su
[18:07] <daftykins> gregf_: turned it on also?
[18:07] <gregf_> daftykins: do i now reboot?
[18:07] <daftykins> no no no
[18:07] <daftykins> not yet :D
[18:07] <gregf_> daftykins: turn swap on?
[18:07] <daftykins> yep
[18:07] <gregf_> one sec
[18:07] <daftykins> gregf_: then make sure everything's applied and happy in gparted before closing it.
[18:07] <amireldor> daftykins: sudo passwd
[18:08] <gregf_> daftykins: ok, sure
[18:08] <daftykins> amireldor: ok, ignoring my first question of why would you do that - do you think you're compromised because you try to switch to it but the password is 'wrong' ?
[18:08] <daftykins> gregf_: now go to a terminal window and type "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[18:09] <daftykins> gregf_: that should complete without returning anything at all, yes?
[18:09] <gregf_> daftykins: yep
[18:10] <amireldor> daftykins: yes, I try to do recovery console mode and can't get to root. I don't want to call my 100 which is 911 in the +1
[18:10] <amireldor> daftykins: neither my regular user AMIR
[18:10] <daftykins> gregf_: good good. now type "blkid" and copy the UUID from between the "'s next to /dev/sda5 which will have "TYPE="swap" " written beside it
[18:10] <amireldor> (not caps)
[18:10] <bekks> amireldor: root has no password set. even in recovery mode, and you dont need a root password at all, in recovery mode.
[18:10] <daftykins> bekks: see the bit where he ran sudo passwd :'(
[18:10] <jarope> hi package manage gurus about this evening
[18:10] <CatKiller> Hi there! Using openssl on Ubuntu, is it possible to use a single openssl.cnf file to setup multiple CAs? I know it's technically not completely a Ubuntu question but not sure where else to ask
[18:10] <daftykins> jarope: just ask the question
[18:11] <bekks> daftykins: Then root has a password, but he still doesnt need it. :)
[18:11] <amireldor> daftykins: bekks: yes. I live in UTC+2 and I am afraid of MITM attacks.
[18:11] <amireldor> maybe i f i reconnect
[18:11] <daftykins> lol.
[18:11] <amireldor> and you see i have the same IP
[18:11] <amireldor> i'm serious!
[18:11] <amireldor> Wait wait wait wait
[18:11] <daftykins> gregf_: how's it going?
[18:11] <amireldor> is this crazy time again?
[18:11] <bekks> amireldor: read more and write less? MITM have nothing to do with your root password and the recovery mode at all.
[18:11] <amireldor> coz it's friday?
[18:11] <gregf_> bekks: are you the same becks from vbox :/
[18:12] <gregf_> *bekks
[18:12] <bekks> gregf_: Yes I am.
[18:12] <gregf_> :)
[18:12] <jarope> I have dependancy issues and apt-get install -f doesnt work
[18:12] <amireldor> bekks: just a moment let me draw it
[18:12] <amireldor> on a paper :)
[18:12] <daftykins> yay artwork
[18:12] <bekks> amireldor: We dont need no paper at all.
[18:12] <daftykins> gregf_: did you get the UUID?
[18:12] <bekks> amireldor: Why did you set a root password at all?
[18:12] <jarope> could someone help me figure this out
[18:12] <Eagleman> Got this error when starting MySQL from an NFS share: http://lpaste.net/564068375790092288
[18:12] <amireldor> bekks: coz i'm an Idiot? I don't know I was high :)
[18:12] <daftykins> jarope: paste the output and maybe someone will have an idea where to start
[18:13] <Eagleman> Is it safe to mount the nfs share with nolock?
[18:13] <jarope> disabled all the extra ppa's and tried again
[18:13] <jarope> cool daftykins
[18:13] <daftykins> jarope: with paste.ubuntu.com of course
[18:13] <bekks> amireldor: And whats the exact problem now with your recovery mode?
[18:13] <jarope> was just checking where daftykins thanks
[18:14] <daftykins> gregf_: i'm running out of time here so if you could speed things up it'd be much appreciated else i must leave
[18:14] <bekks> Eagleman: No, it is not.
[18:14] <gregf_> daftykins: i got the id, what should i do next?
[18:14] <amireldor> bekks: i'm not on XP with webchat. Does that qualify for "ubuntu laptop needs to be reformatted"?
[18:14] <Eagleman> bekks how can i fix this issue then?
[18:14] <jarope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7011758/
[18:14] <amireldor> i got my pen and paper now (20AM long day)
[18:14] <jarope> there you go!
[18:14] <amireldor> *FM
[18:14] <daftykins> gregf_: make sure it's copied and in your clipboard, then type "sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab"
[18:14] <amireldor> *PM
[18:14] <daftykins> gregf_: within that file, you need to replace the existing /dev/sda5 swap UUID with the one you just copied
[18:14] <amireldor> bekks: i'm NOW* on Woe32\
[18:14] <bekks> amireldor: No. You are saying things without any relation to each other, and you are not answering the question people asking. So I am afraid, I will rest your case.
[18:14] <amireldor> on a diff machine
[18:15] <daftykins> gregf_: then hit ctrl+x, y, enter to save it, sound good?
[18:15] <gregf_> daftykins: i dont see swap in there :/ <== sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:15] <gregf_> bah sorry
[18:15] <bekks> amireldor: And PLEASE, do NOT use enter as a punctuation sign.
[18:15] <gregf_> daftykins: one sec
[18:15] <amireldor> bekks: I never do, I'm a LoCo Lead. Thanks, bbsoon
[18:15] <bekks> amireldor: Well, I am wondering how you got that lead then. Honestly.
[18:16] <gregf_> daftykins: blkid returns this: /dev/sr0: LABEL="Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS amd64" TYPE="iso9660"
[18:16] <daftykins> gregf_: nothing for /dev/sda5 ?
[18:17] <jarope> So I have followed as many guides to solve this as I could find but still cant shift the package error
[18:17] <gregf_> daftykins: nope :
[18:17] <jarope> currently unity is broken - due to elementary desktop - but gnome cant complete install
[18:17] <daftykins> gregf_: try "sudo blkid" to see if it makes any difference
[18:17] <amireldor> bekks: i can give you the full story in private
[18:18] <bekks> amireldor: I am not interested.
[18:18] <amireldor> bekks: thank you. see you l8r when i take my drugs
[18:18] <jjavaholic> how long should I expect Brasero to be normalizing tracks for a full 700Mb audio track?
[18:18] <bekks> amireldor: I fear that, too.
[18:18] <path0gen> druuuugs
[18:18] <gregf_> daftykins: http://postimg.org/image/ldaeqfg1p/feb8f40d/
[18:18] <amireldor> bekks: I fear that as much as you do!
[18:18] <amireldor> bekks they make me t ake it :(
[18:19] <gregf_> daftykins: yeah, i need to run it as root :/
[18:19] <daftykins> gregf_: close gparted and run it again
[18:20] <Jebus> How do I make my normal account root not using sudo -s i want it to be completely root
[18:20] <gregf_> its there now
[18:20] <bekks> amireldor: It has nothing to do with Ubuntu, and thus is offtopic in here.
[18:20] <gregf_> daftykins: so sda5 huh?
[18:20] <daftykins> gregf_: oh ok, so copy the UUID of /dev/sda5 the swap partition into your clipboard, then type "sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab"
[18:20] <bekks> Jebus: Using sudo -s, you are full root, in fact.
[18:20] <bekks> !root | Jebus
[18:20] <gregf_> daftykins: ok, i prefer vim :/
[18:20] <daftykins> gregf_: well whichever text editor, just update the UUID for /dev/sda5 :P
[18:22] <gregf_> daftykins: done
[18:22] <gregf_> daftykins: now i get you :)
[18:22] <daftykins> gregf_: save and quit your editor, type "sudo umount /mnt" then reboot
[18:22] <gregf_> daftkins: done
[18:23] <Jebus> bekks, will the commands in that link allow me to login as root
[18:23] <gregf_> daftykins: do i now reboot?
[18:23] <gregf_> ah ok
[18:24] <bekks> Jebus: Why do you want to login as root, after having read the article given?
[18:25] <Jebus> bekks That I do not know
[18:26] <gregf_> daftykins: thats it ?
[18:26] <daftykins> gregf_: yep you should now have the full disk space at your disposal. confirm with 'df -h'
[18:27] <gregf_> daftykins: yay!. its there
[18:27] <daftykins> right i gotta run :) enjoy!
[18:27] <gregf_> daftykins the swap space one in fstab, is that needed as well :/. wont creating a new swap partition change the fstab entry?
[18:28] <gregf_> daftykins: Thanks very much indeed! you take care!
[18:28] <daftykins> gregf_: lol. that's why we edited the UUID to update it to refer to the newly recreated partition instead of the old deleted one
[18:29] <gregf_> daftykins: yeah, never knew i had to do it manually :/
[18:29] <gregf_> cuz the first time i create the swap partition, i never made an entry manually, but good to know :)
[18:29] <gregf_> *created
[18:29] <ePax> I have thinkpad and light on thinkpad logo is not on. And i can not change it with echo "on" > /proc/acpi/ibm/light
[18:30] <daftykins> gregf_: the installer would've created it
[18:30] <daftykins> ePax: i've got to be honest, in the grand scheme of issues i don't think a logo light being on is a MAJOR issue ;)
[18:31] <gregf_> daftykins: hmm, ok. perfect. as i specific it on installation. never used gparted there :/
[18:31] <gregf_> *specified
[18:31] <ePax> daftykins, Its not major issue but i would like it ot work :D
[18:31] <daftykins> gregf_: you're a new user i take it? :)
[18:32] <gregf_> daftykins: nope :) i've been using ubuntu for quite some time. just that i'm a dev guy and never had to do this space allocation myself :/
[18:32] <daftykins> ah ok. anyway ttfn!
[18:32] <gregf_> hey sure, thanks again!
[18:33] <antagomir> just installed ubuntu 14.04 on HP Folio Elitebook. According to screen texts the installation was successful. When I reboot, I get the text that tells I should install operating system (although I thought I just installed it already). Any tips what might go wrong?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> antagomir: #ubuntu+1 for Ubuntu 14.04.
[18:37] <yash069> antagomir: how did u install it ?
[18:37] <yash069> usb ?
[18:38] <yash069> antagomir: did u change boot order after install ?
[18:39] <Jebus> bekks I read the article twice now and I don't that many downfalls
[18:40] <amireldor> is my ip hidden?
[18:41] <llutz> !ot | amireldor
[18:41] <OerHeks> amireldor, no, not standard.
[18:41] <antagomir> yash069 i didnt, so if this might be the problem then i should try asap
[18:41] <amireldor> OerHeks: ok, then I know I'm registered. thank you
[18:41] <OerHeks> amireldor, join #freenode to get a cloak
[18:41] <amireldor> amireldor: I do not require a clock :)
[18:42] <yash069> if u installed using usb u might have change boot order
[18:42] <amireldor> OerHeks: I will now write ym full problem and someone will help my war-fatigued problem
[18:42] <antagomir> yash069 i installed using DVD via USB
[18:42] <yash069> did u change boot order ?
[18:42] <antagomir> no
[18:43] <Jordan_U> antagomir: Please install a supported version of Ubuntu or ask in #ubuntu+1 only.
[18:43] <yash069> then u might have not installed grub
[18:43] <antagomir> yash069 ok
[18:43] <bekks> Jebus: Basically there is no reason for setting a root pssword - it only introduces more downsided than benefits.
[18:43] <antagomir> Jordan_U right, tnx]
[18:43] <Jordan_U> antagomir: You're welcome.
[18:44] <Jebus> Well I am not enabling it
[18:44] <jarope> how do I fix a broken package issue please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7011758/
[18:45] <Jebus> Thank you bekks
[18:47] <Jebus> bekks is there anyway to run sudo and it not ask for your password everytime
[18:48] <amireldor> bekks: #ubuntu-offtopic are just making fun at me :q
[18:48] <amireldor> it's still not shabbat where I come from
[18:49] <yash069> bekks: what the problem with setting up root pass ?
[18:49] <bekks> !root | yash069
[18:50] <ZeloZelos> use sudo su for terminal session to only ask for the password 1 time, then you no longer need the sudo command at all
[18:50] <compdoc> I was also told there was no spoon, and look at how that movie turned out...
[18:50] <yash069> bekks: u know without root password people can change user account password via ubuntu recovery ?
[18:51] <bekks> yash069: Sure. Everyone with physical access can do that.
[18:51] <Jebus> is there anyway to run sudo and it not ask for your password everytime
[18:52] <bekks> !sudo | Jebus
[18:52] <yash069> doesnt setting root pass help prevent people to get into recovery ?
[18:52] <bekks> yash069: No.
[18:53] <issphp> Hello, how do you pass a command to another command from the terminal (or python script), for example: kill -9 pidof(sh)
[18:53] <pranith__> Noskcaj, hey... any update on using the latest global for Ubuntu 14.04?
[18:53] <issphp> or kill -9 pidof(firefox)
[18:53] <cyford> wow it took  installing Icedtea Java Plugin   to get java to work with my firefox
[18:54] <Noskcaj> pranith__, What was the responce we got from debian last time?
[18:54] <yash069> issphp: do u mean redirecting output ?
[18:54] <issphp> yash069: yup
[18:54] <pranith__> Noskcaj, the debian upstream maintainer is not happy with GNU global developer...
[18:54] <Fevix> Are there any simple performance tweaks that won't wreck the computer in 13.10? The system only has 2GB memory and it's really chuggung.
[18:54] <llutz> issphp: cmd $(othercmd)
[18:54] <pranith__> he asked me to send a patch to fix the global in debian
[18:55] <yash069> issphp, use pipe ( | )
[18:55] <pranith__> can we bypass debian and have latest global in ubuntu?
[18:55] <yash069> !pipe | issphp
[18:55] <ZeloZelos> Fevix, you could try a different windows manager like xfce
[18:55] <yash069> lol
[18:55] <bgardner> issphp: For Python scripts, see subprocess.Popen() ... and see also ##python, rather than #ubuntu
[18:56] <Noskcaj> pranith__, Possibly. Ask in -devel if anyone will update it for you?
[18:56] <issphp> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7011967/
[18:56] <pranith__> ok
[18:56] <kingplusplus> please how do i set sound for xbuntu
[18:56] <Noskcaj> also, was the patch request sent?
[18:56] <pranith__> Noskcaj, I packaged it and have it in a PPA
[18:56] <llutz> issphp: man pidof
[18:56] <pranith__> you suggested to make some changes which I did not get around to
[18:57] <issphp> llutz: oh my bad
[18:57] <issphp> llutz: the () confused me :P
[18:57] <pranith__> Noskcaj, patching the global in debian is not worth it IMHO
[18:58] <pranith__> it is a 6 year old release last updated in 2008
[18:58] <Fevix> Anything else? Like, a system tweak or anything?
[18:58] <pranith__> too many changes have been made upstream
[18:58] <llutz> issphp: easier to use "pkill firefox"
[18:58] <issphp> llutz: or killall firefox, i know but i just wanted to know how :P
[18:58] <Noskcaj> pranith__, Get either a bzr branch or a debdiff of new version and someone might be able to upload it
[18:59] <issphp> Also, i tried to look it on google but i didnt find the answer.. how do you actually get a list of all running executables files in the system.. "ps" command shows scripts and stuff and i need only executables files .. like files that written in C/C++
[19:00] <pranith__> Noskcaj, debdiff is out of the question because of the number of changes... have to do it like a new package
[19:01] <Noskcaj> pranith__, Edit the debdiff so it's just the changes in the debian/ folder
[19:01] <pranith__> ok, will give it a try
[19:01] <Noskcaj> pranith__, Making a bzr branch wouldn't be that hard though would it?
[19:01] <notebook> any channel on ansys related discussions please
[19:03] <notebook> can anyone guide me to ansys irc cannel
[19:03] <Pici> !alis | notebook
[19:04] <pranith__> Noskcaj, naah. Should be easy using bzr-svn
[19:04] <notebook> Pici: thankyou very much
[19:06] <tcpsyn> Might anyone know what part of X is eating my pcspeaker beep? I can beep with the beep command, I can echo -e '\a' in a tty, but not within a gnome-terminal, or anywhere inside of X.
[19:06] <tcpsyn> It's driving me crazy
[19:07] <jhutchins> tcpsyn: What desktop are you running?
[19:07] <tcpsyn> I know the pcspkr module is loaded, its not muted, xset b is on, and it works outside X... somethings eating it. I can also see the beep events, but no audible beep.
[19:07] <tcpsyn> jhutchins: xfce
[19:07] <jhutchins> tcpsyn: Don't suppose you know how to get the start menu back on the taskbar?
[19:08] <tcpsyn> right click on it and add it back?
[19:08] <tcpsyn> Ahh. The beep is playing through the line out.
[19:09] <jhutchins> tcpsyn: INteresting.  I was going to suggest checking the mixer.
[19:10] <tcpsyn> mixer seems unrelated. It is playing, it's just going through the line out and not the pcspkr
[19:10] <jhutchins> tcpsyn: Start menu isn't listed as an adable item.
[19:10] <jhutchins> tcpsyn: Oh, yeah, that's expected.
[19:10] <tcpsyn> It's not what I want though
[19:10] <tcpsyn> I want it to use the pc speaker
[19:10] <jhutchins> tcpsyn: Not sure why.
[19:13] <tcpsyn> jhutchins, if you get really stuck, you can delete ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-config-per-channel/xfce4-panel-settings.xml
[19:13] <tcpsyn> and it'll recreate the defaults on next login.
[19:13] <tcpsyn> but you should be able to find it in the available panel modules. It won't be called start menu though, it's not windows
[19:15] <jarope> ok so it says my problem is over writing a file so I removed that and it still says it has the same problem
[19:15] <jarope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7011758/
[19:16] <jarope> i cant add dependancies because it will not finish the install
[19:16]  * jarope going round in circles
[19:17] <jarope> does anyone have a moment to help?
[19:24] <ryanprior> I was messing with keyboard shortcuts and pressed Ctrl+P (don't try it!) which switched my display off. Pressing it again switched my display back on, and I went to the Google to find out why that happened. Turns out it's a hacky, non-disablable behavior of Compiz which improves compatabilities with certain laptops, and the bug to make it disable-able in the keyboard shortcuts menu is closed wontfix. Welp. Anyway, I found out you c
[19:25] <ryanprior> But now whenver I log into that account on my computer, it switches my display off. And since I disabled ctrl+P, I can't switch it back on that way.
[19:25] <tcpsyn> jarope: apt-get -f install?
[19:25] <ryanprior> How do I fix my configuration?
[19:25] <jarope> hi tcpsyn thqanks but nope
[19:26] <jarope> I tried that and a bunch of other stuff
[19:26] <tcpsyn> did you apt-get update to refresh the repos?
[19:26] <jarope> tcpsyn, I tried apt-get clean and apt-get update
[19:27] <jarope> tcpsyn, I removed the files in /var/cache/apt/archive manually and did it all again
[19:27] <jarope> tcpsyn, I removed the file it was struggling to over write and still nope
[19:27] <tcpsyn> that package could be bad in the repo. What are you actually trying to install?
[19:28] <jarope> tcpsyn, a working desktop
[19:28] <jarope> :D
[19:28] <jarope> I tried the elementary desktop but then going back to unity found some issues
[19:29] <jarope> window decoration was glitching, going transparent but only on Radiance and Ambiance
[19:29] <Guest69039> HI! Im from argentina!! :D
[19:29] <Guest69039> HI! Im from argentina!! :D
[19:29] <jarope> Hola
[19:29] <jarope> so tcpsyn trying to fix that cuased more issues and screwed unity up
[19:29] <Guest69039> can anybody helpme with xubuntu? im new
[19:29] <Guest69039> hola jarope
[19:30] <tcpsyn> what I would do, is apt-get remove evolution evolution-data-server-online-accounts
[19:30] <tcpsyn> and try to get them out
[19:30] <tcpsyn> then reinstall them
[19:30] <jarope> ok thanks tcpsyn will try it
[19:30] <tcpsyn> dunno if that's gonna work, apt can be a pain in the ass like that
[19:30] <ryanprior> When I log into my account, my display switches off and displays an error message saying "input signal out of range." I can log into a guest session fine. All the help on Google when I type in that error message assumes that the computer won't boot at all, and suggests a fix to Grub. But my problem is only with one user account. What do I do?
[19:31] <jarope> tcpsyn, noe doesnt want to do anything
[19:32] <jarope> same error
[19:32] <Noor_egy> hello after i upgraded my ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04 mysql not work at xammp
[19:33] <OerHeks> !ampp
[19:34] <OerHeks> !xampp
[19:36] <jhutchins> Guest75104: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:38] <tcpsyn> jarope, you see why it's complaining?
[19:38] <tcpsyn> jarope: line 21
[19:38] <tcpsyn> in your paste
[19:38] <jarope> yes tcpsyn so I tried making that write for all
[19:38] <jarope> no help
[19:39] <jarope> tcpsyn, then I deleted it still no good
[19:39] <tcpsyn> nope, try uninstalling switchboard-plug-online-accounts
[19:39] <jarope> cant as its still trying to install the otherone first
[19:39] <jarope> tried that
[19:39] <tcpsyn> thats why you gotta uninstall with dpkg and not apt
[19:39] <jarope> ;D
[19:39] <jarope> ooo
[19:39] <jarope> ok
[19:39] <tcpsyn> dpkg -r switchboard-plug-online-accounts
[19:39] <thoraxe> is there something special to do to enable scp?  i am very new to ubuntu (mostly centos user)
[19:40] <tcpsyn> thoraxe: you need to enable openssh
[19:40] <tcpsyn> scp is part of ssh
[19:40] <thoraxe> ssh already works
[19:40] <thoraxe> scp gives me: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[19:41] <tcpsyn> ssh works and scp doesn't?
[19:41] <thoraxe> that's what i said, yes.
[19:42] <jarope> tcpsyn, BOOM worked
[19:42] <tcpsyn> jarope: word.
[19:42] <jarope> cool must get to know dpkg more
[19:42] <tcpsyn> not a lot to know
[19:42] <tcpsyn> apt just wraps around it
[19:42] <jarope> tcpsyn, thats how I understood it
[19:42] <jarope> but obviously there are benefits to knowing more!
[19:43] <tcpsyn> always
[19:43] <jarope> right now to start working~!
[19:43] <thoraxe> i don't even really see a way to disable it
[19:43] <thoraxe> unless scp is a part of sftp, which i don't believe it is
[19:43] <tcpsyn> if you ssh to the box, is scp available there?
[19:43] <thoraxe> yes
[19:44] <thoraxe> /usr/bin/scp
[19:44] <tcpsyn> do you have openssh-client installed on the target host?
[19:45] <tcpsyn> cant imagine why you wouldn't... but...
[19:45] <thoraxe> openssh-client is already the newest version.
[19:45] <tcpsyn> scp -vvv hostname
[19:45] <tyler_d> pass it the ssh version in your scp command
[19:45] <tcpsyn> see if that gives you more information
[19:45] <thoraxe> tcpsyn: on the destination (ubuntu) system, on my source system?
[19:46] <tcpsyn> from the client to the server
[19:46] <tyler_d> thoraxe: and give us the exact command you are running
[19:48] <thoraxe> hmm it appears scp works for non-root users
[19:48] <tcpsyn> limits.conf
[19:48] <tcpsyn> when weird shit like that happens, it's always limits.conf
[19:48] <tcpsyn> or.... there's a nologin file too
[19:49] <thoraxe> i can ssh in as root
[19:50] <thoraxe> where is limits.conf ?
[19:50] <tcpsyn> . /etc/security/limits.conf
[19:50] <tcpsyn> etc/security
[19:50] <jatt> never ever ssh as root
[19:50] <tcpsyn> jatt, don't give bad advice for no reason
[19:51] <tyler_d> jatt: your not my supervisor
[19:51] <thoraxe> jatt: that is a fairly ridiculous and somewhat baseless tatement
[19:51] <tcpsyn> ssh as root is fine.
[19:51] <thoraxe> permitting ssh root login is not reasonably advised, but "never ever ssh as root" is silly
[19:52] <Flannel> @comment 59954 Bot.
[19:52] <Flannel> oops.  Well, whatever.
[19:52] <thoraxe> is there a rosetta stone for centos/EL -> ubuntu ?
[19:52] <tcpsyn> thoraxe, do you have PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:52] <thoraxe> tcpsyn: no, permitrootlogin is absent from sshd_config
[19:53] <thoraxe> and if it was set to no, i wouldn't be able to ssh as root.
[19:53] <tyler_d> default is no
[19:56] <thoraxe> tyler_d: then this system is configured bizarrely.
[19:56] <llutz> tyler_d: ubuntus default is yes (even withthe disabled root-account)
[19:57] <tyler_d> well that's an excellent in(security) feature
[19:57] <tyler_d> we shall call it, feature rich
[19:58] <llutz> yep, they argue "well there is no root-password/key, so what..."
[19:59] <tyler_d> but when I go ahead and change my root pw cause I'm jive like that
[19:59] <tyler_d> shabam...
[19:59] <Flannel> tyler_d: You don't "change it", you "set it", but yes, your comment is valid.
[19:59] <llutz> tyler_d: you#re not supposed to do so (next argument...)
[19:59] <llutz> tyler_d: security by obscurity
[20:00] <tyler_d> oh but I did, because I can... and as previously stated... I'm jive like that
[20:00] <tyler_d> long time Flannel :)
[20:06] <larsemil> hi. i used a ppa to get newer versions of xbmc.
[20:06] <larsemil> now i wanted to downgrade so i removed ppas and did apt-get update.
[20:06] <larsemil> when i try to install xbmc it fails because the xbmc-bin the system acceses is to new.
[20:07] <larsemil> i have tried to ppa-purge, apt-cache clear, and apt-add-repository -r
[20:07] <larsemil> but still same problem
[20:07] <OerHeks> larsemil, add that PPA again, and use PPA purge to roll back
[20:07] <larsemil> OerHeks: will try
[20:09] <larsemil> OerHeks: seems no luck
[20:10] <larsemil> maybe now
[20:11] <OerHeks> larsemil, i would remove xbmc complete, and then reinstall without ppa
[20:12] <larsemil> OerHeks: thanks. now it worked.
[20:13] <OerHeks> larsemil, have fun :-)
[20:14] <guest5691203> hello
[20:14] <guest5691203> the sound preferences dialog in ubuntu has a "Output" tab where you can choose through which output you want to play sound
[20:15] <guest5691203> anyone here who know how to do that in lubuntu? i tried installing pulseaudio + pulseaudio volume control (pavucontrol). but i don't see where and how this setting could be achieved from within pavucontrol
[20:16] <guest5691203> is there any way to do it via pavucontrol? or can the ubuntu sound preferences app be installes in lubuntu?
[20:16] <guest5691203> installed
[20:17] <Beldar> guest5691203, These guest names are a pain use a real nick, one option, http://askubuntu.com/questions/80384/where-are-the-lxde-sound-preferences
[20:17] <styks1987> I am having an issue where someone cannot access our server. I checked my IP tables and it does not appear to have any ips restricted. Does anyone else know where I should look?
[20:19] <peppo> hi! I'm on Z77/NVIDIA GTX 680, and no nvidia drivers are showing up in the restricted drivers tab, and installing "nvidia-current" (from stock or edgers ppa) results in broken X. nvidia module couldn't be loaded... advice? I've not found anything on Google citing similar problems
[20:20] <Beldar> peppo, YOu probably had the correct drivers installed to begin with, was everything working?
[20:20] <peppo> Beldar, nouveau. They are horrible
[20:20] <peppo> performance is abysmal
[20:20] <peppo> 2D.
[20:21] <peppo> I've not even attempted anything 3d
[20:21] <Beldar> peppo, Ah, helps for us to know that.
[20:21] <LubuntuAudioOutp> Beldar: thx. nick changed. i came up with that page myself and already tried pavucontrol and xfce4-mixer. can you tell me where i can choose the default output in pavucontrol and/or xfce4-mixer?
[20:21] <Beldar> LubuntuAudioOutp, Thanks on the nick, I just googled your issue, not an area I'm up on.
[20:25] <kingplusplus> how do i install java and eclipse in xubuntu
[20:25] <rww> kingplusplus: 13.10, or some other version?
[20:25] <rww> (of Ubuntu)
[20:26] <kingplusplus> rww 13.10
[20:26] <rww> kingplusplus: install the packages default-jdk and eclipse. e.g. at a commandline: sudo apt-get install default-jdk eclipse
[20:26] <kingplusplus> rww thanks
[20:29] <alejandr1> ilovepumopkin
[20:31] <JonEdney> Has anyone run into any issues running  14.04 on Virtualbox?  I'm having problems getting things running after initial installation & reboot.
[20:31] <Beldar> alejandr1, Do you have a support issue?
[20:32] <Beldar> JonEdney, You were on the correct channel this is for releases T\try #vbox
[20:32] <JonEdney> Thanks Beldar I didn't see the correction
[20:32] <Beldar> no biggie it happens
[20:32] <JonEdney> Yes, multi tasking is getting the best of me today.
[20:33] <Beldar> ;)
[20:33] <quem> since upgrading to 13.10, my scanner no longer works. any ideas?
[20:33] <quem> i hope sane hasn't phased out support for it or something.
[20:33] <Beldar> quem, You tried simple scan?
[20:35] <quem> Beldar: yeah
[20:35] <quem> Beldar: sane-find-scanner detects it, along with my webcam and bluetooth device.....
[20:37] <Aossi> whats up people
[20:38] <Beldar> quem, I suspect the no read is a config issue, have you checked the preferences?
[20:38] <Beldar> Aossi, ubuntu support is up.
[20:38] <quem> simple scan's preferences don't offer much.
[20:39] <quem> i've tried xscan too, but it doesn't detect it either
[20:39] <Aossi> Beldar: xD i know if it wasnt for this channels help id still be screwed on my ubuntu system
[20:39] <Beldar> Aossi, The channels are valuable to many. ;)
[20:39] <cx640> 123
[20:39] <Aossi> indeed Beldar indeed
[20:43]  * Aossi hugs his terminal
[20:44] <LubuntuAudioOutp> Beldar: do you know what the ubuntu sound preferences is called? i'd like to install them in lubuntu
[20:44] <streulma> hello, I have an SSD with 128GB, does I need swap? How much, 8GB (same as ram)?
[20:45] <Beldar> LubuntuAudioOutp, Not really, you might check on the #lubuntu channel as well.
[20:45] <Aossi> streulma: what are you trying to do exactly?
[20:45] <Beldar> streulma, If you don;t want to hibernate I doubt you need a swap, depends on your memory use really.
[20:46] <streulma> Aossi: I have a Macbook and want to install Ubuntu on it, I do repeatly 8GB swap, 30GB / and rest /home
[20:46] <streulma> for Ubuntu installs
[20:46] <jiffe98> alright, I tried adding ipv6 to one of my interfaces and something's messed up now, I can't get any traffic out including local network pings, I commented out the ipv6 lines and reboot but still broke
[20:47] <Aossi> streulma: hrmmmm did you follow any of the turtorials they have online first??
[20:47] <compdoc> streulma, some swap is always good
[20:47] <jiffe98> this isn't a production machine but I'm curious what isn't working about it
[20:47] <streulma> ah compdoc hello :)
[20:47] <compdoc> half the ram is ok, or the whole amout
[20:47] <streulma> so, 4GB is ok?
[20:47] <compdoc> likely you'll never use any. hopefully
[20:48] <crunch-choco> hi there, anyone tried 14.04? how unstable is it?
[20:48] <Beldar> streulma, be sure to set up or use trim.
[20:48] <Beldar> !14.04 | crunch-choco
[20:49] <jiffe98> nevermind, after rebooting the NIC order seems to have changed so they were on the wrong vlan
[20:49] <Beldar> crunch-choco, Not really an answerable question, general advice is don't use a development as your main install.
[20:50] <crunch-choco> that's a wise advice Beldar, thanks :)
[20:52] <francesco2> Guys I would like to ask how I should divide a partition for ubuntu if I wanna do manually ?
[20:53] <Beldar> francesco2, From a live cd, can you define "divide a partition"?
[20:53] <Beldar> done from a live cd rather
[20:54] <francesco2> I am doing it from a USB
[20:55] <Beldar> francesco2, Give us a screen shot of gparted, and define the end goal.
[20:55] <Beldar> !screenshot | francesco2
[20:55] <francesco2> I can't atm it is on another machine, the goal a normal desktop pc )
[20:56] <Beldar> francesco2, Than define what I asked.
[20:56] <Beldar> francesco2, "divide a partition" is a strange syn tax, not really enough detail
[20:58] <Beldar> francesco2, Can we get on the machine you want to change from a live cd?
[21:01] <francesco2> Beldar: it is a lenovo amd
[21:01] <francesco2> pretty new machine
[21:02] <francesco2> 2GB of RAM, 2 processors
[21:02] <francesco2> 500GB HHD
[21:04] <Beldar> francesco2, I have the feeling we are not communicating, is it a language issue?
[21:05] <francesco2> mmm I dunno, didn't you ask me on what machine I want to install ubuntu?
[21:06] <Beldar> francesco2, no, just if we could get on it on a live cd, see gparted and define divide partition.
[21:07] <francesco2> I don't know what is gparted I put obuntu on a usb drive and I am trying to install it, ) sorry
[21:07] <Beldar> francesco2, Does the divide the partition to create a unallocated for ubuntu to be installed in?
[21:07] <Lihis> homo
[21:08] <Beldar> francesco2, Does the divide the partition mean to create a unallocated for ubuntu to be installed in?
[21:08] <francesco2> I need to know just how how memory I have to allocate for the swap, journal , ...
[21:08] <francesco2> yes
[21:09] <saitx_> hey there, i have a question, How to change the path of the default bookbarks in nautilus, for example i wanna change the path of the folder Documentes, i wan to set it to another partition, i just neet to know where can i do that thanks.
[21:09] <Beldar> francesco2, If you have windows on the computer use its partitioner to resize the windows partitions creating a unallocated.
[21:10] <francesco2> there is nothing on
[21:10] <Beldar> francesco2, Did it have W8 perchance?
[21:10] <francesco2> no
[21:10] <francesco2> never had any OS on
[21:10] <Beldar> francesco2, Is it a uefi/gpt
[21:11] <saitx_> ???  How to change the path of the default bookbarks in nautilus, for example i wanna change the path of the folder Documentes, i wan to set it to another partition, i just neet to know where can i do that thanks.
[21:12] <francesco2> I suppose :P
[21:12] <OerHeks> saitx_, http://askubuntu.com/a/422345
[21:12] <Beldar> francesco2, hmm, you suppose, are you familiar with a efi install?
[21:12] <OerHeks> ctrl b = edit
[21:12] <HappyPants> what?
[21:13] <Beldar> !who | HappyPants
[21:13] <HappyPants> ok :)
[21:13] <francesco2> Beldar: I know only how to install ubuntu with  the normal ubuntu step by step installation
[21:14] <Beldar> francesco2, Ah, well I still have no idea what your are doing, others may be able to decipher.
[21:14] <Beldar> you*
[21:15] <saitx_> 0erHeks thanks, that is what i need.
[21:15] <saitx_> thanks
[21:15] <OerHeks> saitx_, have fun :-)
[21:15] <Jef91> where can I find a netinstall iso for 14.04?
[21:16] <francesco2> Beldar: ok nothing thank you anyway )
[21:16] <Beldar> Jef91, not available till release and the 14.04 channel is #ubuntu+1
[21:19] <Jef91> Beldar, how about a minimal install ISO, no desktop preinstalled
[21:21] <User321> I managed to install ubuntu but with secureboot disabled, it doesn't get past GRUB. Once I select ubuntu, all i get a ubuntu background colour and nothing
[21:21] <User321> with secure boot enabled, it complains that keys can't be verified
[21:25] <Beldar> User321, You can do a text boot to see what is going on. Have you tried a nomodeset or failsafe x boot?
[21:26] <francesco2> when I finish to install it tell me: pxe-m0f exiting intel pxe rom operating system not found
[21:26] <francesco2> :(
[21:26] <Beldar> User321, I believe if you hit the esc key after choosing ubuntu it goes to text.
[21:27] <User321> Beldar, I managed to get into recovery mode and then select normal mode which got me into text mode. Manage to login. Is there anything I can do here?
[21:27] <riceandbeans> I have a question about some ubuntu magic
[21:28] <Seveas> User321: check the X logs
[21:28] <riceandbeans> vmware is moving away from using a windows client
[21:28] <Beldar> User321, I would run the update/upgrade and check additional drivers.
[21:28] <riceandbeans> they're moving to a web client
[21:28] <riceandbeans> the web client is flash
[21:28] <riceandbeans> it requires flash >= 11.5
[21:28] <riceandbeans> adobe stopped linux support at 11.2
[21:28] <Beldar> riceandbeans, and this relates to ubuntu how?
[21:28] <Seveas> Beldar: you might find out if you let him finish the question :)
[21:28] <riceandbeans> I have a coworker with ubuntu, and magically, the web client works out of the box on his system
[21:29] <riceandbeans> how/why?
[21:29] <Beldar> Seveas, keep it to yourself
[21:29] <Seveas> riceandbeans: probably the check for 11.5 isn't that strict
[21:29] <riceandbeans> are you using some proprietary binaries from windows wrapped into browser bundles?
[21:29] <riceandbeans> Seveas: actually it is
[21:29] <Akiva-Mobile> my file operations is stalling on a certain file, but working on others
[21:29] <Seveas> riceandbeans: or he installed a windows browser and a windows version of flash with wine
[21:29] <riceandbeans> Seveas: he didn't, he's running firefox, out of the box install
[21:29] <Akiva-Mobile> the certain file is a zip, containing a build for ubuntu touch.
[21:30] <OerHeks> riceandbeans, Chrome does use pepperflash 11.5 or something
[21:30] <riceandbeans> the hell is pepperflash?
[21:30] <Akiva-Mobile> it just stops at 292 mb, with 2 mb togo, and yah
[21:30] <Seveas> riceandbeans: well, that's one google query away from finding out :)
[21:30] <Seveas> Akiva-Mobile: what are you trying to do with it?
[21:31] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, What are you doing with this image exactly?
[21:31] <User321> Seveas, is it in /var/logs ?
[21:31] <Seveas> User321: yeah /var/log/Xorg.0.log usually
[21:31] <User321> Beldar, I can't find any drivers. Got an kernel upgrade. Will see if that helps.
[21:33] <Beldar> User321, You check additional drivers?
[21:33] <User321> Seveas, it says Fatal server error: (EE) no screens found (EE)
[21:34] <User321> Seveas, before that line it says Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
[21:34] <Seveas> User321: there must be things above that, it's likely that loading the graphics driver failed. What kind of videocard do you have?
[21:34] <MrQuist>  HIya guys, im sure there's some bash guru's here. Say i have a string "this is my very is own string" - Then how can i get the LAST part of the string, up to IS? so, in this example "own string". In this one; "this is a test string" -> a test string "what is the word is to you?" -> to you?
[21:34] <User321> Seveas, is there a way for me to pastebin the log from CLI?
[21:35] <User321> Beldar, doesn't apt-get update && upgrade cover that? Sorry not a proficient Linux user.
[21:36] <UK_Spikey> hi all im having trouble installing ubuntu alongside W8, my livecd doesnt detect that I already have W8, I dunno how the partitions thing works its seems complicated
[21:36] <Seveas> MrQuist: echo ${mystring##*is}
[21:36] <riceandbeans> OerHeks: that was it exactly now that I look into it, I thought he was running firefox
[21:36] <UK_Spikey> should I try 12.04 , would that detect that I have W8?
[21:36] <alejandr1> kfdghgrhg,g;pth8h
[21:36] <Seveas> User321: sudo apt-get install pastebinit :)
[21:36] <Seveas> alejandr1: english please :)
[21:37] <Beldar> User321, One would hope so, but there is a additional drivers area to show you what is available, and answer the question on the graphic hardware.
[21:37] <riceandbeans> anyway, as on official debian user, I'd like to apologize to you guys for my distro bringing your distro into systemd
[21:37] <Beldar> lol
[21:37] <beandog> lol
[21:37] <geirha> MrQuist: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/100 for more on string manipulation in bash
[21:37] <Seveas> riceandbeans: no need to apologize. Systemd is awesome and the debian soap opera was hilariois :)
[21:37] <riceandbeans> we had a good run
[21:38] <User321> Seveas, cheers. Here is xorg log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7012718/
[21:38] <riceandbeans> Seveas: soap opera?
[21:38] <riceandbeans> it was a civil war of the GNUs
[21:39] <riceandbeans> Seveas: beyond an unusable init client, it boiled down to the commercialization and corporate takeover of GNU/Linux by a singular entity, guiding the fate forever of open source, and redhat won...
[21:39] <Seveas> User321: hmm, did you muck about with the X server config or video drivers? Or is this a fresh install?
[21:39] <riceandbeans> Wayland, network-manager, udev, systemd
[21:39] <riceandbeans> redhat won man
[21:39] <Beldar> no one died, the US civil war had more american deaths than all wars after combined
[21:39] <Seveas> riceandbeans: well, that's a discussion for another channel.
[21:39] <Seveas> let's stick to support in here. No ranting.
[21:39] <riceandbeans> worse still, some of that technology bleeds into BSDs too, it was more than just a disagreement of init systems, I'm just saying, it's a big deal
[21:39] <sadbox> riceandbeans: Oh no, how dare redhat help to build a useable stack of software
[21:40] <User321> Seveas, it is a new install. I used boot repair to fix the boot menu as windows managed to override initially.
[21:40] <sadbox> riceandbeans: Go back to BSD, you silly goose
[21:40] <Seveas> sadbox: riceandbeans: please no offtopic chatter here. Especially on subjects that can erupt into flamewars.
[21:40] <Seveas> User321: but did it work before you did that?
[21:40] <riceandbeans> sadbox: I've already begun migrating everything off linux after 10 years of debian
[21:41] <riceandbeans> it was a good run, but linux as a viable, open source, desktop not corporately owned, is dead
[21:41] <riceandbeans> have fun guys
[21:41] <Seveas> riceandbeans: stop.
[21:42] <User321> Seveas, ubuntu live cd won't boot with secure boot disabled. So I installed it, then swapped to legacy boot inorder to boot into ubuntu as windows overwritten the boot loader. Used Ubuntu boot repair to fix grub. Reboot again and flip to secure boot.
[21:43] <User321> Seveas, so I initially installed with secure boot
[21:43] <Seveas> User321: unfortunately I can't see any reason for any of this to break the X server and the log doesn't help me either. Sorry to be useless :(
[21:45] <User321> Seveas, no worries. thank you. Secure boot is seriously a headache.
[21:46] <User321> Seveas, is it possible to sign the ubuntu with a key?
[21:46] <Seveas> User321: no idea, I use hardware that respects my freedom :)
[21:48] <grout> seveas: like a mac?
[21:48] <User321> Seveas, it is a laptop so there isn't a lot of choices. Just learned the hard way to never get a Toshiba laptop in the future. They are  a pain. On other hand hp laptop seems to better.
[21:53] <Seveas> actually, mostly dell lately, as that's $work's laptop vendor of choice. The fact that it works perfectly with Ubuntu is a happy bonus :)
[21:53] <Seveas> this one even came with Ubuntu preinstalled!
[21:53] <User321> Seveas, Dell XPS laptop?
[21:54] <Seveas> User321: E6230
[21:58] <User321> Seveas, noted. HP isn't bad either. I also have a HP laptop. Envy 15. Came with windows 8 but was able to install ubuntu with no issues. I was able to switch off secure boot and fast boot with no issues.
[22:03] <User321> Seveas, apt-get update && upgrade from CLI seems to have resolved the issue. After downloading and updating the linux kernel, ubuntu was able to boot.
[22:09] <Miguel2706> Freenode is under DDoS attack :(
[22:10] <lickalott> Gents, If I wanted to use the built in hardware virtualization whats the best front end software to use?
[22:11] <mdev> kvm is pretty nice and comes built into distros now I believe
[22:11] <mdev> is much more virtualized than say openvz
[22:17] <phdp> I'm having a really hard time doing something very simple: changing the default font for Japanese to "AR PL UKai CN". It was the default font before I installed a bunch of new ones (that I really need), so there must be a way to set it as default. Googling only yielded this (http://askubuntu.com/questions/73721/how-do-i-change-the-default-chinese-font) but it's apparently depreciated. I tried simply adding the font in the sans-serif section of "/etc/fonts/conf.
[22:17] <phdp> d/65-nonlatin.conf" but it does absolutely nothing (note: I'm using openbox with Lubuntu 13.10).
[22:20] <svalorzen> \HELP
[22:20] <svalorzen> ups
[22:22] <Arw0r> heyo
[22:23] <banks> how do i install a zip file?
[22:23] <banks> unpack it i mean
[22:23] <CarlFK> banks: unzip
[22:24] <banks> CarlFK, yes
[22:24] <CarlFK> banks: unzip is the command.  man        unzip - list, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP archive
[22:24] <Beldar> banks, More details help, a zip needs extraction generally. What ever is in it did you check if in the ubuntu repos first?
[22:25] <banks> Beldar, its the android app IDE, and yes i checked if it was in the software center and its not
[22:26] <lickalott> mdev, i don't have it on this distro (12.04)  I only see a dummy type file in the software center.  Can i apt-get it?
[22:27] <mdev> yeah i'm sure you can, google "how to install kvm ubuntu"
[22:27] <mdev> not sure how indepth it is, if it's a single package or what
[22:27] <mdev> I thought it was built into the kernel, guess not
[22:27] <banks> i unzipped it,now i dont know where its installed, is there a default location for this kind of stuff?
[22:27] <lickalott> how bout that, 2nd hit as soon as I typed kvm....lol
[22:29] <yofun_> So....my server is kinda blocked from the outside. Only thing that works from the outside is apache (80) and ssh (22) my ICRM
[22:29] <yofun_> My irc and other services aren't accessible from outside
[22:30] <Beldar> !details | yofun_
[22:30] <_zap_> Phil42:  hi phil, i'm here to report the result of my experiment with replacing grub by another version. so indeed uefi boot works with my other grub version.
[22:30] <yofun_> What can I look at to figure this out?  It used to work. Nobody was in ssh went the server connections died
[22:30] <yofun_> Nobody from outside can access anything but ssh and apache
[22:30] <FuuqUmiist> heloo
[22:31] <banks> Beldar, what is the default folder that zip files get installed?
[22:31] <yofun_> And I have no idea where to start to look
[22:32] <FuuqUmiist> how can you install FireFox ESR?
[22:32] <yofun_> I run a Ubuntu server. And we run a few different services irc, apache, minecraft and so on. And it seems nobody can connect
[22:33] <daftykins> yofun_: sounds like ufw is blocking some services
[22:34] <Phil42> _zap_:  what did you have to do to make it work?
[22:34] <Phil42> _zap_:  just use a newer version of grub?
[22:35] <_1_Squidnationz> http://codes4free.net/?ref=29BpypU2b
[22:35] <xmetal> wow ...didn't even meant to arrive in this room but nice to see it again
[22:35] <xmetal> :)
[22:35] <_1_Squidnationz> http://codes4free.net/?ref=29BpypU2b
[22:36] <daftykins> _1_Squidnationz: no more links thanks
[22:37] <yofun_> yofun@leonard:~$ sudo ufw status
[22:37] <yofun_> Status: inactive
[22:37] <yofun_> Not according to that
[22:38] <daftykins> yofun_: iptables -L ?
[22:38] <CarlFK1> yofun_: you can ssh in right? "My irc and other services aren't accessible from outside"  can you connect locally?   (even just telnet localhost 6667)
[22:39] <yofun_> Yes I can connect locally
[22:39] <yofun_> Inside LAN
[22:40] <daftykins> yofun_: so - you do actually have ports forwarded?
[22:40] <CarlFK> yofun_: what do you mean "Inside LAN" ?
[22:40] <yofun_> Yes
[22:40] <yofun_> Inside the network
[22:40] <dgarstang> Where can I get ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso from? it's been replaced by ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[22:40] <yofun_> Out of nowhere my bots died and most connectons died
[22:41] <daftykins> dgarstang: why do you want to go back?
[22:42] <dgarstang> daftykins: cuz that's what we're currently using
[22:42] <IdleOne> dgarstang: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/
[22:43] <CarlFK> yofun_: your description of your problem doesn't sound consistent with .. um.. other things you say
[22:44] <yofun_> CarlFK: ?
[22:45] <CarlFK> yofun_: "My irc and other services aren't accessible from outside "  are you running an irc server?
[22:45] <blind> hey i have a weird issue. i'm have this weird package and it looks like it's coded to remove some programs when it's removed with apt-get remove.. i want to keep these programs.. is there a file i can edit to tell it to not remove X packages?
[22:46] <yofun_> It seems all connections incoming and outgoing just died. Like irc won't let you connect and none of my bots connect to their other places
[22:46] <Seveas> blind: if you remove a package, all packages that depend on it will be removed too. So likely your 'weird' package is needed by the ones you want to keep. So keep it :)
[22:47] <kimgonill> clear
[22:47] <CarlFK> yofun_: " irc won't let you connect"  where is the client, where is the server?
[22:48] <delt> hello
[22:48] <delt> what's a good DVD player for *buntu?
[22:48] <delt> mplayer /dev/sr0 "kind of" works....
[22:48] <daftykins> delt: VLC perhaps
[22:49] <yofun_> CarlFK: client is in LA,  server is in tx
[22:49] <yofun_> But nobody can connect
[22:49] <yofun_> Unless they are local
[22:49] <delt> daftykins: thanks for your advice
[22:50] <blind> Seveas: it's not.. it's like a safeguard or something. it was preloaded and i need to update virtualbox and it wants to remove out proprietary packages that i can't replace
[22:50] <delt> daftykins: installing now.... i promise i won't hold you personally responsible if it doesn't work :D
[22:50] <daftykins> blind: rather than talk in theoretical terms, why don't you pastebin the output of trying to remove said package to share?
[22:51] <daftykins> delt: good good, 'cause i've never used it in my life \o/
[22:51] <delt> :D
[22:51] <daftykins> i just know how popular it is
[22:51] <Seveas> bli	bli	[1;3C[1;3D[1;3D[1;3C[1;3D[1;3D[1;3C[D
[22:52] <CarlFK> yofunto_:  if you can connect to the sever on lan the sever is on, but not from la, the server is probably fine but the routing between the two is messed up.
[22:52] <Guest37067> hey all. i'm running a do-dist-upgrade and i just hit the 'config file has been modified' option. i hit 'd' to look at the diff, but couldn't exit. i tried ctrl+z and now i'm at a weird tabbing prompt. fg lists no job. any ideas?
[22:52] <Seveas> blind: ok, pastebin the command you're running and its full output.
[22:53] <Seveas> and ignore the keyboard mashing above, my computer was being wonky :)
[22:53] <yofun_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JRjNKaAj
[22:54] <yofun_> CarlFK: its not only me. Its everyone
[22:54] <yofun_> All the users
[22:55] <CarlFK> yofun_: that would happen if the routing is messed up
[22:55] <Beldar> Guest37067, try esc
[22:55] <CarlFK> yofun_: what connects the lan to the internet?
[22:56] <delt> this is weird, mplayer gives me only video / no sound, and vlc gives me only audio / no video
[22:56] <Guest37067> Beldar, i tried esc :(
[22:56] <yofun_> The only services I can access is apache2 and ssh
[22:56] <yofun_> From outside
[22:56] <yofun_> (considering I am outside)
[22:56] <yofun_> I can ssh and use telnet to whatever
[22:56] <yofun_> And it works
[22:56] <yofun_> Ssh does
[22:56] <yofun_> Anyways I think its a system issue
[22:56] <yofun_> Ufw is disabled already
[22:57] <yofun_> And my iptables are http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JRjNKaAj
[22:57] <Guest37067> ctrl+c, the lot. i reckon i've ended up killing the upgrade mid way through
[22:57] <Guest37067> is there a way to get an upgrade to pick up where it left off?
[22:58] <Seveas> Guest37067: dpkg --configure -a && apt-get -f install && apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:58] <Seveas> though you may need to run that a few times
[22:59] <CarlFK> yofun_: oh right.. you can ssh in.  what do you mean "and use telnet to whatever" ?
[22:59] <yofun_> I can ssh in and type telnet localhost 6667
[22:59] <yofun_> Etc
[22:59] <Seveas> yofun_: well there you go, your firewall is blocking all but a select list of services that do not include irc or other things you're complaining about
[23:00] <Seveas> yofun_: pastebin output of iptables -L -v -n
[23:00] <Guest37067> Sevas: right, returns 'database is locked by another process'. guess that means the upgrade is still running in the other terminal
[23:00] <Seveas> the -v is critical, as I don't believe rule 2 in INPUT
[23:00] <Seveas> Guest37067: yup
[23:01] <Seveas> Guest37067: ig you merely hit ^Z, use fg to bring the upgrade process back
[23:01] <Arw0r> anyone knows a good access database software to work on ubuntu ?
[23:01] <Seveas> ah you tried that. did you try it in the same terminal as where you "killed" it?
[23:01] <sardior> Ubuntu 13.10, AMD64 Toshiba, broken screen on laptop so am using crt monitor for display. Works fine until someone logs out, then reverts to the broken screen and won't come back. Have to shut down with power button press to restart the computer. Help.
[23:01] <Guest37067> Severas yeah, i tried that. reckons there isn't a job
[23:02] <Seveas> it only work in the same terminal as where you hit ^Z
[23:02] <sardior> worked fine until update.
[23:02] <Guest37067> yeah. it's a bit tricky though. the prompt in that terminal is, err, weird. like, it doesn't show what you're typing
[23:03] <Seveas> Guest37067: use "reset"
[23:03] <Seveas> (the command, don't reset your PC :P)
[23:03] <din> ctrl+l works too
[23:03] <Seveas> din: not always
[23:03] <din> think that just clears it
[23:03] <qin> sardior: hit dash, type display, run Displays, and set as you want it (swith off laptop sceen?)
[23:04] <din> reset is best
[23:04] <Seveas> qin: that doesn't work from the login screen :)
[23:04] <kutzu> i have a network card with 4 ports, each with a unique MAC and IP. i connect two ports to the network but according to a Windows machine's ARP on the network, both of them have identical MAC. i have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/arp_filter set to 1. does anyone know why?
[23:04] <Seveas> sardior: try with the lid closed (so you'll need an external keyboard too :)
[23:04] <CarlFK> Seveas: re: yofun_ says things will connect from the lan, so I am guessing there is a firewall between the lan and the rest of the Net
[23:04] <Tarax> I don't have any sound through HDMI even though I chose it in sound settings
[23:05] <sardior> Displays are set right. Checked that first. Don't think the Toshiba will work with the lid closed, goes into sleep mode.
[23:05] <Guest37067> Seveas reset works to get back to working terminal, thanks. turns out there aren't any jobs though
[23:05] <qin> Seveas: "untill someones logs out..." I have always thought that Ubuntu using mirror display by default
[23:05] <Seveas> CarlFK: and I'm thinking that line 2 might explain it (-i eth0 to accept all from the lan for instance), but that doesn't show up without -v
[23:05] <sardior> I am using external keyboard and mouse.
[23:06] <yofun_> http://pastebin.com/bU6NaSqk
[23:06] <Seveas> Guest37067: ps aux | grep 'dpkg\|apt'
[23:06] <yofun_> Seveas:  And CarlFK
[23:06] <abaday> is it possible to download a no window VLC mediaplayer?
[23:06] <daftykins> 'no window' = ?
[23:06] <abaday> no xwindow*
[23:07] <xangua> mplayer¿
[23:07] <yofun_> It can't be the Router we have it configured for a wild card forwarding
[23:07] <Seveas> yofun_: yup, your firewall is blocking it all.
[23:07] <delt> HappyPants: your pants are pointing
[23:07] <Seveas> you have a DROP policy on the INPUT chain with ACCEPT rules only for web, mail, ping and localhost traffic
[23:07] <User3> question about mplayer: does it maintain the library automatically?
[23:07] <Seveas> and ssh
[23:08] <HappyPants> @delt, what ????????
[23:08] <sardior> It was set on 12.10 with laptop disabled and only using CRT. Now it works on startup correctly, but when someone logs out it goes back to the laptop display with side by side setting and mouse able to move between the two screens.
[23:08] <Tarax> I don't have any sound through HDMI even though I chose it in sound settings, how can i make it work?
[23:08] <Seveas> Tarax: by also using it for displaying
[23:08] <abaday> im streamin videos from my ubuntu server, and the subtitles are messed up on my TV, but when I play it on my PC using VLC everything is fine. So maybe if I install VLC on my server, the streaming quality will be better?
[23:08] <qin> abaday: cvlc, package vlc-nox
[23:09] <Guest37067> Seveas http://paste.ubuntu.com/7013161/
[23:09] <abaday> qin: do you think it will help for streaming to the tv?
[23:09] <yofun_> Seveas: command to fix? I doesn't make sense because no roots were on when it went down
[23:09] <yofun_> I guess it could be iredmail.....
[23:09] <Tarax> Seveas:  what do you mean? I've chosen HDMI on TV, I have the same picture as on monitor
[23:10] <yofun_> Seveas: what's the command to accept all connections and ports etc
[23:10] <Seveas> yofun_: if you don't want iptables to block anything: sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT && sudo iptables  -F INPUT
[23:10] <qin> abaday: videolan do pretty much anything. as do mplayer
[23:10] <Beldar> !tab | HappyPants
[23:11] <abaday> qin: do I have to specify in some config that the server should use VLC for streaming?
[23:11] <Seveas> Tarax: oh :( Well that was the only useful information I have about this. Hopefully someone else in here knows more!
[23:11] <qin> abaday: what server?
[23:11] <Tarax> Seveas: ok
[23:12] <abaday> qin: Im streaming from my ubuntu server to my TV
[23:12] <abaday> I use plex
[23:13] <yofun_> Seveas: thank you!!
[23:14] <Guest37067> Seveas so do you reckon i should just kill that process?
[23:14] <sardior> ok... I guess I'll sudo gedit and see what I can find in the config files in /etc. bye
[23:14] <Seveas> Guest37067: no. I reckon you should run ps auxf and pastebin its output :)
[23:15] <Bj007pro> Hello
[23:15] <Seveas> Guest37067: more than likely there is a child process that you can kill. That'll still break the upgrade but not as disastrously
[23:15] <HappyPants> hello
[23:15] <Bj007pro> Can someone tell me what is Ubuntu
[23:15] <Seveas> !ubuntu
[23:16] <Bj007pro> thats what I thought it was,
[23:16] <Bj007pro> thank you
[23:16] <qin> abaday: no clue, plex support would be better place
[23:16] <Guest37067> Seveas thanks :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7013177/
[23:16] <Bj007pro> is there a little something that you can download
[23:16] <Seveas> Guest37067: ooh crap, truncated output. Try this: ps auxf | cat
[23:17] <Bj007pro> that opens a window that show linux on it?
[23:17] <Beldar> Bj007pro, http://www.ubuntu.com download the iso
[23:17] <Bj007pro> and how can I make that bootable?
[23:17] <Bj007pro> I don't buy DVD ROms
[23:17] <Seveas> !usb
[23:17] <Beldar> Bj007pro, burn it to a dvd or usb a usb loader
[23:18] <Seveas> (as you can see, you're not the first with this question :))
[23:18] <Bj007pro> :)
[23:18] <Bj007pro> ')
[23:20] <Guest37067> Seveas ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/7013199/
[23:21] <Seveas> Guest37067: ok, look at line 209-212 of that paste, that's the upgrader running
[23:21] <Seveas> by killing the 'pager' process, you will make the install of one package fail, but the rest should continue. So sudo kill 13685
[23:22] <Seveas> Guest37067: and keep an eye on that part of the process tree  with ps auxf | grep -A10 ubuntu-release-upgrader
[23:22] <Seveas> Guest37067: if it hangs again, on pager, kill it again. If it hangs on something else: pastebin and yell
[23:24] <Guest37067> Seveas yep, tht got back the diff message, but then dropped straight back to th prompt
[23:27] <thoraxe> is there a way with upstart to do something like "chkconfig --list"?
[23:27] <Seveas> Guest37067: so it's progressing now?
[23:27] <usr13> thoraxe: service --status-all
[23:27] <usr13> thoraxe: Is that what you are looking for?
[23:28] <Seveas> thoraxe: or initctl list
[23:28] <Guest37067> nope
[23:28] <Seveas> Guest37067: k, run that last ps command again and pastebin output
[23:29] <thoraxe> i want to see a list of what services are enabled or disabled in what runlevels
[23:30] <thoraxe> chkconfig serves that purpose and can also be used to define which runlevels a service runs (or not). for example "chkconfig httpd 345 on" or similar
[23:30] <Seveas> thoraxe: runlevels are an outdated concept. Upstart and systemd don't use them.
[23:30] <daftykins> ubuntu doesn't use runlevels last i heard
[23:30] <Guest37067> Seveas http://paste.ubuntu.com/7013244/
[23:30] <thoraxe> Seveas: ok, so how do i determine the list of services that will start on the next boot
[23:30] <Seveas> Guest37067: that definitely seems to be progressing to me
[23:31] <thoraxe> ubuntu lts 12.whatever
[23:31] <zumba_addict> hi folks, we're running Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. I'd like to add php support on our apache. How do I add it?
[23:31] <Seveas> Guest37067: check your harddrive light. It should be blinking like mad
[23:31] <usr13> thoraxe: Runlevels are a bit outdated (as Seveas points out), nowdays we are just in runlevel 2 (unless we choose something else).
[23:31] <thoraxe> usr13: that's well and good.  still doesn't answer the question :)
[23:31] <Guest37067> Seveas heh, nope. not really flashing. also, no output to the terminal. and no fg jobs.
[23:31] <FinnTheMew> zumba_addict: If you did it yourself, check the wiki page about the LAMP stack. If you used tasksel, I don't know what happened
[23:32] <Seveas> thoraxe: initctl show-config
[23:32] <thoraxe> you're talking to someone stuck touching ubuntu who is used to using EL5/6
[23:32] <mjuszczak> Are there any negative effects of installing strace?
[23:32] <zumba_addict> i don't know who installed it
[23:32] <Seveas> mjuszczak: no.
[23:32] <Seveas> Guest37067: o...k... sudo strace -p 31191
[23:33] <kimgonill> i have a rsync question. I have a cifs share set to mount on boot '/media/symlinks' i then have a cronjob set up to sync that mount to a local directory '/media/raid0/nas'. My question is up until now i haven't been using the --delete operator out of fear that if for some reason the cifs share becomes unmounted and the /media/symlinks directory is empty then my entire backup will be deleted.
[23:33] <kimgonill> can someone point me in the right direction on how I can make sure that doesn't happen?
[23:33] <Seveas> Guest37067: and hit ctrl c after a few seconds, then pastebin output
[23:33] <thoraxe> Seveas: so looking at the output of that I do not see apache2 -- does that mean it will not automatically be started on the next boot?
[23:33] <daftykins> king1337-2: why don't you just run a small test.
[23:34] <daftykins> oops highlight fail
[23:34] <daftykins> kimgonill: ^
[23:34] <daftykins> king1337-2: sorry.
[23:34] <Seveas> thoraxe: or that apache has not yet been converted to an upstart job. You'll also need to ls /etc/rc{2..5}.d/S*
[23:34] <FinnTheMew> zumba_addict: Type into Terminal  "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 && sudo a2enmod php5 && sudo service apache2 restart"
[23:34] <thoraxe> wow this is rather attrocious
[23:34] <Seveas> it is
[23:35] <Beldar> mjuszczak, only your ability to use it. ;)
[23:35] <Seveas> and you shouldn't invest a lot of time into learning upstart - everybody is swtching to systemd anyway.
[23:35] <thoraxe> it appears apache2 is configured to start in 2345
[23:35] <thoraxe> Seveas: believe me, i'm not trying to
[23:35] <usr13> thoraxe: service apache2 status
[23:35] <thoraxe> the only reason i'm touching ubuntu in this particular way is because our vhost provider stopped offereing centos and it was either this or debian
[23:36] <thoraxe> usr13: that shows the status of the service, not the status of its configuration
[23:36] <Seveas> thoraxe: or a different VPS provider :)
[23:36] <thoraxe> Seveas: i would, but our physical servers are arleady in the same DC, so it's a convenient (read: fast) backup location
[23:36] <thoraxe> anyway, just need enough to have a minimal apache2 and an SCP-only user
[23:36] <thoraxe> it looks like apache2 is configured right
[23:36] <thoraxe> i think i got the firewall right.  now just need scp user
[23:37] <kevin_> Seveas: read(0, ^CProcess 31191 detached <detached ...>
[23:37] <Seveas> kevin_: ah crap, it wants some info from you
[23:38] <thoraxe> is there a way to create an scp only user ?
[23:38] <Seveas> thoraxe: using a ForceCommand in ~/.ss/authorized_keys
[23:38] <Seveas> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys that is
[23:39] <usr13> thoraxe: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*apache2 /etc/rc4.d/*apache2 /etc/rc4.d/*apache2
[23:39] <beandog> Seveas: really?  That's pretty simple.  Never thought of doing it that way.
[23:39] <Seveas> kevin_: which Ubuntu version are you on? and is it 32 or 64 bit?
[23:39] <thoraxe> usr13: so it sounds like there is no chkconfig equivalent worth a crud
[23:39] <kevin_> Seveas 64
[23:39] <thoraxe> Seveas: hmm i'll have to google around for that
[23:40] <usr13> thoraxe: Sure there is, (in RedHat)  :)
[23:40] <thoraxe> usr13: uhm...
[23:40] <Seveas> kevin_: ok, let's do a trick: using reptry you can reattach dpkg to your terminal. But since you cannot install reptyr, you'll need to grap a binary from me
[23:40] <thoraxe> Seveas: so the scponly "shell" was dropped in lts 12?
[23:41] <usr13> thoraxe: (Sorry for the tastless attempt at humor, but I've not use a RPM pased distro in a long time.;)
[23:41] <kevin_> Seveas haha, ok
[23:41] <Seveas> thoraxe: no idea never used it
[23:42] <thoraxe> Seveas: do you have any docs on that forcecommand?
[23:42] <thoraxe> is there an equivalent of /etc/redhat-release  that tells me what version i'm running?
[23:43] <Kiborg> Hi a short question. Is the map layout in Thunderbird set by the server? All my folders are under inbox as sub-folders
[23:43] <Seveas> kevin_: wget http://www.kaarsemaker.net/static/reptyr && chmod +x reptry && sudo reptyr $(pidof dpkg)
[23:43] <usr13> thoraxe: Actually the answer to your question is yes, there is.  (sudo apt-get install chkconfig)
[23:43] <Seveas> kevin_: and then hit enter and hope for the best
[23:43] <Seveas> thoraxe: /etc/issue or the output of lsb_release -a
[23:44] <usr13> thoraxe: (I knew that but somehow forgot it.)
[23:45] <thoraxe> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/scponly.1.html <- this makes it seem like scponly is available in precise
[23:45] <thoraxe> but apt-get install scponly can't find it
[23:45] <kevin_> Seveas cool. currently getting "[-] Timed out waiting for child stop." and hanging
[23:45] <thoraxe> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=scponly this says only lucid though
[23:46] <Seveas> kevin_: ugh.
[23:46] <kevin_> Seveas: yeah
[23:46] <Seveas> kevin_: can you do me another ps auxf | cat
[23:47] <kevin_> Seveas sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/7013303/
[23:48] <Seveas> hmm, process is not stopped, so reptry should have no problem whatsoever. Sadly it seems to have :(
[23:49] <Seveas> kevin_: are you up for doing it the more dangerous way? You'll need to make sure we finish this properly before rebooting which may take a while.
[23:50] <kevin_> Seveas: hold up a moment. from that ps auxf i should be reptyr id 31675 right?
[23:51] <usr13> !info scponly | thoraxe
[23:51] <thoraxe> usr13: rssh apparently does something similar
[23:51] <kevin_> Seveas: or 31191
[23:51] <usr13> !info chkconfig | thoraxe
[23:51] <Seveas> kevin_: I was trying to get only the dpkg process, but you may be right. Kill reptyr and try grabbing the other one
[23:51] <thoraxe> is there a way to do a "rpm -ql" with apt ?
[23:51] <thoraxe> list the files in a package
[23:52] <Jordan_U> thoraxe: dpkg -L package
[23:52] <thoraxe> cool
[23:52] <Seveas> thoraxe: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650590 -- for more on why scponly was removed and what to do instead
[23:52] <thoraxe> so "apt-*" is kinda like yum and dpkg is kinda like rpm?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> thoraxe: Correct.
[23:52] <thoraxe> Seveas: rssh looks like it does the job
[23:53] <usr13> thoraxe: Well, chkconfig is available for 12.04 lts, but I wonder where it is going from there?  (And I wonder if systemd will have some effect?>?)
[23:53] <Seveas> usr13: 'chkconfig' is pretty useless on Ubuntu
[23:54] <Seveas> and systemd will force package maintainers to overhaul their init support yet again
[23:54] <kimgonill> i did do a test by unmounting and doing a 'dry run' rsync and yes it would have deleted everything.....
[23:54] <kevin_> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7013335/
[23:54] <usr13> Seveas: Yea, that's what I was thinking.  There may be several things that will become obsolete.
[23:55] <Seveas> kevin_: ok, time to break ot the sledgehammer and patch up the damage.
[23:55] <kevin_> Seveas: righto!
[23:55] <Seveas> kevin_: open up a rootshell or 3 with sudo -i so you have some backup shells if things go really pear shaped
[23:56] <Seveas> kevin_: then in one of them, kill the dpkg process
[23:56] <Seveas> kevin_: then check if the ubuntu release upgrader actually quits (it should) and run this in the rootshell: dpkg --configure -a
[23:57] <Seveas> that should make dpkg continue where it left off. When that finishes try apt-get -f install. And finally apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:57] <kevin_> Seveas okie doke
[23:59] <hoverboard> one time my cat stepped on the touch pad on my laptop...
[23:59] <hoverboard> and all sorts of sentences were formed in a text box