[01:16] <zacts> where may I find a list of phone models that support ubuntu?
[01:16] <zacts> I have a sony xperia Z
[01:17] <zacts> oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[01:18] <zacts> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[01:22] <zacts> how do I connect my phone to t-mobile once installed?
[02:04] <zacts> I see, I'm going to try it..
[02:05] <zacts> wifi calls only, and sound only via headphones for my phone..
[02:05] <zacts> I'll make backups before starting this..
[02:07] <Haun1400> Hi Guys, I'm a bit lost on this ubuntu-touch install
[02:08] <Haun1400> I can't seem to find package ubuntu-device-touch even after adding the repositories
[02:18] <memeka> hi, im trying to port ubuntu touch to a new device, and I get this error message...
[02:18] <memeka> No private recovery resources for TARGET_DEVICE odroidu2 make: *** No rule to make target `touch/ubuntu/out/host/linux-x86/bin/mkimage', needed by `touch/ubuntu/out/target/product/odroidu2/ramdisk-uboot.img'.  Stop.
[02:18] <memeka> anyone can give a hint?
[09:36] <nexus7lte> hi, can i use ubuntu touch on my device? nexus 7 2013 LTE
[09:37] <ogra_> nexus7lte, yes
[09:37] <ogra_> hmm, unless the LTE version is musch different though ... we support the WLAN version (flo)
[09:37] <nexus7lte> ogra, in ubuntu website it only talks about flo (nexus 7 2013 wifi)
[09:38] <ogra_> *much
[09:38] <nexus7lte> is there any walkthrough for me to dual boot kitkat and ubuntu touch ?
[09:39]  * ogra_ has no idea if dual boot works on the flo ... dualboot is completely unsupported by us so its a matter of luck
[09:40] <nexus7lte> ok, forget about the dual boot, how about installing ubuntu touch on "deb"?
[09:40] <nexus7lte> this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install only talks about flo
[09:42] <ogra_> right, i dont really know how much different flo and deb are ...  you could try to force flo with an option to ubuntu-device-flash and see if it works (if it doesnt boot you will have to go back to android though)
[09:43] <ogra_> (use -device=flo when flashing)
[09:43] <nexus7lte> uhum,
[09:45] <nexus7lte> thanks for the tip
[10:27] <Kostic> Hi everyone. I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch to Geeksphone Peak (original, dev one, not Peak+) and I'm having trouble with manual "enabling" of a new device chapter in the wiki page. There is a repo for a port of Android 4.0 for it (https://github.com/reimago/gp_android) which I have cloned in my /home. Can I just copy over kernel/* and device/* from gp_android (cloned repo of the port of Android for gp_peak) to peak (dir where I have phablet-dev-bo
[10:27] <Kostic> otstrap'd all the code needed for Ubuntu Touch)?
[10:31] <dedo93> hi
[10:31] <dedo93> anyone got this https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0jh1745js6w3fx/IMG_20140301_112408.jpg ?
[10:38] <ogra_> dedo93, please file a bug against ubuntu-download-manager or system-image
[10:39] <ogra_> (it is either of the two or both)
[10:48] <disposab1e> i've just installed -channel=devel on my nexus4 and i am unable to install any applications. when i click install, nothing happens. phablet-config writable-image doesn't seem to have any effect and i can't check which filesystem is ro/rw because terminal is broken
[10:48] <disposab1e> how do i install apps?
[10:48] <Aki1> terminal is broken?
[10:49] <disposab1e> Aki1: yes, enter and backspace doesn't work.
[10:49] <Aki1> disposab1e: I'm new at this, but have you gotten into adb and such?
[10:49] <Aki1> like interacting with your device through your computer?
[10:49] <disposab1e> Aki1: could you be less specific? :)
[10:50] <Aki1> disposab1e: as in, hook up your phone via usb, to your computer
[10:50] <Aki1> and run a remote terminal from your computer
[10:51] <disposab1e> Aki1: sorry, i should have included <sarcasm> tags.
[10:51] <Aki1> disposab1e: I don't understand?
[10:52] <Aki1> disposab1e: do you know what Im talking about, or not?
[10:52] <disposab1e> Aki1: nevermind. adb works, i can see my phone when i run 'adb devices'
[10:52] <Aki1> okay; can't you just execute install commands from there?
[10:55] <popey> 10:49:18 < disposab1e> Aki1: yes, enter and backspace doesn't work.
[10:55] <popey> nope, fixed
[10:56] <Aki1> sorry popey :P
[10:56] <popey> disposab1e: you need to revoot after phablet-config writable-image
[10:56] <disposab1e> popey: thanks
[10:56] <popey> *reboot
[10:56] <Aki1> popey: big fan of you on linux unplugged btw; really value your input.
[10:56] <popey> oh, thats very kind of you to say, thanks
[10:57] <disposab1e> Aki1: flattery will get you everywhere
[10:57] <popey> Free stuff for everyone!
[10:57] <Aki1> ha ha
[10:57] <popey> http://www.maxistentialism.com/bees/oprahbees.gif
[10:58] <Aki1> oh gosh...
[11:00] <disposab1e> popey: hmm. nothing seems to have changed. it vibrates when i click 'install' button but nothing happens :(. in adb shell, i can see that things are mounted rw
[11:01] <popey> click install where?
[11:01] <popey> also, why are you going rw?
[11:01] <popey> whats the goal?
[11:01] <disposab1e> the goal is to be able to install an app. i go into applications tab, there are suggestions there, i select one and click install.
[11:02] <ketul> hi
[11:02] <popey> disposab1e: you dont need to go rw to install apps
[11:02] <popey> rw mode is designed for "developers" who want to do stuff like use apt
[11:03] <disposab1e> popey: clearly, i need to overcome SOME obstacle to be able to install an app
[11:03] <ketul> i want to install ubuntu in my samsung galaxy GT-S5302
[11:03] <disposab1e> popey: it does not 'just-work'
[11:03] <popey> disposab1e: what app are you installing, on which image version, on what device?
[11:03] <popey> adb shell system-image-cli --info
[11:03] <popey> that'll tell you what version of phone image you have
[11:04] <ketul> ubuntu on my galaxy GT-S5302 help me how to do???
[11:04] <popey> !devices | ketul
[11:04] <popey> ketul: is it listed there?
[11:04] <disposab1e> popey: any app, -channel=devel, nexus4
[11:04] <ketul> no
[11:04] <popey> disposab1e: have you signed into ubuntu sso in system-settings -> accounts?
[11:04] <ketul> it means i cant
[11:05] <popey> ketul: someone needs to port to that device, maybe someone on xda already has?
[11:06] <ketul> i can install ubuntu on windows phone 8 ?
[11:06] <popey> ketul: in general, no.
[11:06] <ketul> plz do something i want to install it on my samsung galaxy phone
[11:07] <ketul> galaxy GT-S5302
[11:07] <popey> ketul: find someone to port it
[11:07] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[11:08] <disposab1e> popey: i entered my ubuntu one account details in but now it's greyed out and says "no account" on the top of the page
[11:08] <popey> disposab1e: you're not signed in then.
[11:08] <popey> disposab1e: you need to add your ubuntu one account successfully before you can install apps from the store
[11:09] <disposab1e> popey: thanks
[11:09] <disposab1e> apt-get upgrade has 133MB of new packages. i may try that too
[11:10] <popey> i wouldn't
[11:11] <popey> You're better off sticking with ro image, unless you plan on developing on the device
[11:12] <disposab1e> popey: app installation worked. is there a searchable store application or are the suggestions the only source of touch apps?
[11:13] <popey> disposab1e: there's a search button at the top of the screen . there's no app store web ui or app on the phone yet, but i believe thats all in progress
[11:16] <disposab1e> popey: because i'd like to upgrade terminal to a working version and don't know how. in system settings, when i click software updates, it just tells mi software is up to date
[11:16] <disposab1e> s/mi/me
[11:20] <popey> disposab1e: what image number you running?
[11:20] <popey> adb shell system-image-cli --info
[11:21] <Kostic> "To get a two-minute crash course in UCM and how it's used in Ubuntu Touch - start by having a look in /usr/share/alsa/ucm/apq8064-tabla-snd-card/ directory (shipped with alsa-lib). You'll need to create a similar directory for your device. You'll find the right directory name if you look in /proc/asound/cards." Where do I create this directory? In the dir where I have cloned the source of Ubuntu Touch or?
[11:22] <disposab1e> popey: trusty build 194
[11:23] <popey> disposab1e: ok. so the problem is that earlier images than 194 there was an app called "Update manager" which could update the apps (like terminal)
[11:23] <popey> unfortunately it got removed, (so isnt in the image you have) but got re-added in a later image
[11:25] <popey> however...
[11:25] <disposab1e> popey: ok. i've installed aptitude and it's now running and upgrade. i'll see if it appears or if i can install it manually
[11:25] <disposab1e> s/and/an
[11:26] <popey> one moment...
[11:26] <popey> disposab1e: http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.40_armhf.click
[11:26] <popey> grab that
[11:26] <popey> adb push com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.40_armhf.click /tmp
[11:26] <popey> adb shell
[11:27] <popey> sudo -u phablet-i
[11:27] <popey> bah... sudo -u phablet -i
[11:27] <popey> pkcon install-local /tmp/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.40_armhf.click
[11:27] <popey> that'll fix your terminal
[11:27] <disposab1e> popey: thank you very much. i shall try that
[11:28] <popey> np
[11:30] <Aki1> I just find most of this documentation to be going over my head: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0 Does anyone know of a good crash-course which is a little less specific? Would I be better off reading android documentation in regards to porting devices?
[11:31] <popey> Aki1: unfortunately porting isnt a click-and-go process. it's a bit complex
[11:32] <Aki1> popey: Yah I know and realize that. My software dev experience is mostly with QT, python, and higher level stuff. This a lot of kernel speak, and I want to dive in
[11:41] <ogra_> popey, wow, thats some effort ...
[11:42] <ogra_> disposab1e, tap the terminal icon and hold it ... it brings you an uninstall option then ... uninstall it, then seaarch for it in the application page and install it newly (that will bring you the new version)
[11:42] <popey> oh good call ☻
[11:42]  * ogra_ wishes for a good image the next days to we get the click updater back :(
[11:42] <popey> yeah
[11:43] <ogra_> s/to/so/
[11:55] <Kostic> Hm... "Screen definition
[11:55] <Kostic> In order to provide a consistent layout across different screen sizes and resolutions we define a grid unit to be used by developers. This is set in:
[11:56] <Kostic> "/etc/ubuntu-touch-session.d/hammerhead.conf " where is this file?
[12:00] <popey> Kostic: on the device
[12:02] <Kostic> popey: I do not have ubuntu touch running yet on it. Just Android 4.0.
[12:52] <xenos1984> hi all, i have a problem with my nexus 7. i just installed ubuntu-device-flash on my pc (running ubuntu 12.04) and tried to flash the current trusty image. it flashes, but then the nexus 7 hangs in the bootloader, showing a green arrow saying "start". it worked with phablet-flash and saucy before without problems, but i couldn't get the new image to boot so far.
[13:06] <popey> xenos1984: thats the bootloader, start the process with the device in that mode
[13:06] <xenos1984> popey: so should i flash with -bootstrap=true ?
[13:06] <ogra_> yes
[13:06] <popey> if it's the first time you're flashing, yes
[13:07] <xenos1984> actually it's not the first time, i used saucy before that
[13:10] <xenos1984> now the device says "booting downloaded image"
[13:10] <xenos1984> 2014/03/01 15:10:37 Cannot push /home/mhohmann/.cache/ubuntuimages/devel/flo/version-206.tar.xz to device
[13:11] <xenos1984> and the device is hanging at "booting downloaded image"
[13:12] <ogra_> and the device is actually a flo ?
[13:13] <xenos1984> according to the wiki it is - nexus 7 wifi from 2013
[13:13] <ogra_> (the 2013 Nexus7 WLAN model)
[13:13] <xenos1984> yes
[13:13] <ogra_> you didnt specify -device= or some such ?
[13:16] <xenos1984> i did -device=flo
[13:16] <xenos1984> it didn't find the device type by itself
[13:18] <ogra_> well, it does for all supported devices
[13:20] <ogra_> boot into recovery and try: adb shell getprop ro.product.device
[13:20] <ogra_> that shoulld tell you the actual device name
[13:21] <xenos1984> interesting, it does not boot into recovery
[13:21] <xenos1984> it just hangs in the bootloader
[13:27] <ogra_> try: fastboot getvar product
[13:27] <ogra_> should tell you the name as well (in bootloader mode)
[13:30] <xenos1984> product: grouper
[13:30] <xenos1984> finished. total time: 0.036s
[13:30] <xenos1984> this is what i got from this command
[13:32] <xenos1984> but on the ubuntu touch install wiki page it said grouper version is deprecated, so which is the current / up to date version i need to install?
[13:33] <ogra_> the images for the grouper devcie are deprecated ...
[13:33] <ogra_> (not the device name is ;) )
[13:34] <xenos1984> i see, so which is the correct (non-deprecated) image?
[13:34] <ogra_> there is no QA (testing) for them anymore etc
[13:34] <ogra_> try using -device=grouper
[13:34] <ogra_> see if that works
[13:34] <xenos1984> it's downloading
[13:35] <xenos1984> but won't that install a deprecated image?
[13:35] <ogra_> it will install the same image ... but the image has not been tested or verified on that device, might be buggy etc
[13:36] <xenos1984> ah, interesting, i have to admit that the wiki page is a bit confusing then
[13:36] <xenos1984> now recovery booted
[13:37] <ogra_> then the rest should wirk as well ... just wait
[13:40] <xenos1984> ok, great, thanks!
[13:49] <xenos1984> ubuntu 14.04 now! :)
[13:49] <ogra_> :)
[15:17] <mandel> popey, I dont think udm is broken
[15:17] <mandel> popey, are the downloads present?
[15:42] <ogra_> mandel, https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0jh1745js6w3fx/IMG_20140301_112408.jpg there seem to be other issues (not idea if thats s-i or u-d-m)
[15:42] <mandel> ogra_, well, I already have a fix for udm regarding the scope :)
[15:42] <ogra_> :)
[15:43] <Tassadar> ogra_: bug 1286542
[15:43] <mandel> ogra_, oh, that has nothing to do with udm.. yet it is a valid error (the file is there and we are not writing on top of it)
[15:45] <ogra_> Tassadar, well, that dropbox link was posted by someone earlier, seems he left, so its hard to tell if he ised your server or if this is a general error with s-i
[15:45] <ogra_> *used
[15:45] <Tassadar> I've changed my index.json by hand to make updates working for now, so it should be fine now
[15:45] <Tassadar> yeah, tasemnice.eu is mine
[15:45] <Tassadar> it shows the address in there
[15:45] <ogra_> ah, cool ... thats calming
[15:45] <ogra_> so nothing wrong with s-i in itself then
[15:46] <Tassadar> system-image.ubuntu.com won't encounter it, because it doesn't need to generate keyring tarballs - it uses the official ones
[15:47] <ogra_> right
[15:47] <Tassadar> also, sound doesn't work for me on N5 on the second call, even after those fixes. Might be something else wrong with the sound on that device :/
[15:47] <ogra_> we simply had s-i and the download manager land two images ago ...
[15:50] <asac> ogra_: all good? :)
[15:50] <ogra_> asac, semi good
[15:50] <ogra_> asac, system-image seems fine, click package installs dont
[15:51] <ogra_> asac, mandel urgently needs a device. cant be that our download manager gets developed by someone flying blind
[15:51] <mandel> ogra_, fix done => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/install-correct-path/+merge/208936
[15:52] <mandel> asac, yes, it would be very nice.. I trusted people following the test plan for udm.. and they did not
[15:52] <mandel> asac, it landed after being "tested" by 5 people
[15:52] <mandel> :-/
[15:52] <asac> can we backout?
[15:52] <asac> mandel: sure, i thought we already got you a device allocated
[15:52]  * asac checks
[15:53] <mandel> asac, it breaks the click scope, but here you have a fix => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/install-correct-path/+merge/208936
[15:53] <asac> mandel: who tested?
[15:53] <ogra_> asac, not easily, i think system-image and u-d-m would have to be reverted together in any case
[15:53] <asac> mandel: cool!
[15:54] <mandel> asac, well, system image updates work, so we can use them to add a new udm
[15:54] <ogra_> (apart from the fact that there is nobody driving the CI train on weekends)
[15:54] <mandel> asac, the unit tests cover the regression but I cannot test it properly with no device
[15:54] <mandel> ogra_, yeah, I suspect that not that many of use work over weekends :)
[15:54] <asac> so we could backout and land properly monday
[15:55] <asac> but...
[15:55] <ogra_> mandel, more than you think :) thats why we need a solution for CI at some pont
[15:55] <mandel> ogra_, well, I get all bugs to my phone, if they are urgent I'll fix them in the same day, no matter the day :)
[15:55] <ogra_> asac, well, backing out would mean uploading the old package with a new version still .... would have to happen manually
[15:55] <asac> ogra_: well, the secret is to have more core-devs trained that then can sponsor stuff through the train
[15:56] <mandel> ralsina_, can you do that ^
[15:56] <ogra_> asac, you cant really force people to work on the weekend though ... we need voluntary community involvement in the CI train IMHO
[15:56] <asac> ogra_: well, if its a firedrill
[15:56] <ogra_> and for that the system needs to be better i guess
[15:56] <asac> you guys work :)
[15:56] <ogra_> i dont work
[15:56] <ogra_> :)
[15:56] <ogra_> i chat :)
[15:57] <asac> but you are here
[15:57] <asac> as i said, in general core-devs... if there are no community coredevs
[15:57] <ogra_> right (and indeed i planned to do some stuff later) :)
[15:57] <asac> thats a separate problem
[15:57] <ogra_> we have community core-devs ... but none of them can drive landings via CI train
[15:57] <asac> if we are sure that backing out ss and udm will fix stuff
[15:58] <asac> we could do that through direct upload to mitigate i guess
[15:58] <asac> ogra_: not yet.
[15:58] <ogra_> but thats a distinct problem ... imho if we want to make CI a default the weekend will need coverage
[15:58] <mandel> asac, it will revert the changes do to correctly upload via the UI but will fix the click scope
[15:59] <asac> upload via UI?
[15:59] <mandel> asac, the system settings ui showed a bug in the system image updates daemon (it cannot handle several requests at the same time)
[16:00] <asac> thats the bug we wanted to fix for 2 weeks?
[16:00] <asac> e.g. the one you and barry worked on so hard?
[16:00] <ogra_> mandel, asac stop :)
[16:00] <mandel> asac, yes!
[16:00] <ogra_> the s-i issue is server indicated ... its a community server
[16:00] <ogra_> dont worry about that one
[16:00] <b3h3m0th> will Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 P3100 support Ubuntu Touch ?
[16:01] <ogra_> the official server works fine
[16:01] <mandel> ogra_, I'm taking about what the revert would mean
[16:01] <asac> ogra_: so we dont have a problem?
[16:01] <ogra_> asac, not with the current s-i
[16:01] <mandel> asac, so, no problem in updates, problems in app installations over click scope
[16:01] <ogra_> and if mandel's fix works that should be the way forward
[16:01] <ogra_> so we dont need to roll back s-i
[16:01] <asac> sure
[16:02] <mandel> exactly I would not roll back anything, it means rolling back 3 projects!
[16:02] <ralsina_> basically, fixing one bug created another and noone followed the full testplan because everyone loves shortcuts and here we are.
[16:03] <ralsina_> plus, the full testplan implies a device which are somewhat rare in mandel's team
[16:05] <mandel> asac, ogra_ we have a fix, people can be without installing apps a sunday or rollback
[16:05] <mandel> on monday we get this landed and get people to really test it
[16:06] <ogra_> well, "people" shouldnt use -proposed images anyway ... sadly many do :)
[16:07] <asac> mandel: if its just installing apps its fine
[16:07] <asac> as long as we know we can upgrade still
[16:07] <ogra_> yeah, its just click
[16:07] <asac> if not we should block the build asap so nt more people end in the death trap
[16:07] <asac> hehe
[16:08] <ogra_> all fine :)
[16:08] <ogra_> (kind of at least )
[16:08] <mandel> asac, ogra_ yes, is just apps, so for a day they are fine, they have a fix and I can create a ppa if needed with that branch
[16:09] <ogra_> and popey's bug has a workaround (roll back to 212)
[16:09] <asac> yeah, then lets not firedrill here
[16:09] <asac> (or firedrill further)
[16:09] <ogra_> right, i'll see if i can get the fix tested for monday
[16:10] <ogra_> just pugrading y flo to 214
[16:10] <ogra_> *up
[16:10] <asac> someone shoujld already fill in that row in citrain
[16:10] <asac> with MP etc.
[16:12]  * ogra_ thinks the new upgrade animation needs some background music ... 
[16:12] <ogra_> dancing circle of friends
[16:15] <ogra_> ok, i can reproduce ... once jenkins spits out a test package i'll install that
[16:15]  * ogra_ is out for a while 
[16:19]  * mandel gets back to his siesta
[16:20] <asac> ogra_: enjoy, see you monday
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[19:01] <e-Ra> How to deinstall the ubuntu sdk?
[19:01] <e-Ra> http://askubuntu.com/questions/340770/how-to-uninstall-the-ubuntu-sdk
[19:01] <e-Ra> tried this one, but still can use the ide
[19:02] <Ubuntouche> Does anyone know the best way to change the data.csv file at /usr/share/demo-assets/contacts-data/ with a custom one?
[19:04] <Ubuntouche> Does anyone know the best way to change the data.csv file at /usr/share/demo-assets/contacts-data/ with a custom one?
[20:55] <basketball> rsalveti, i saw that it was updates
[20:55] <justcarakas_> I found a bug in the function setHeader from the html5 toolkit for UI.list how can I report it ?
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