[01:11] <munger> Hey guys. Just installed UbuntuStudio for the first time today and I cant get my m-audio fasttrack working. Pretty sure the driver is loaded as I see traces of it in Sound Settings
[01:47] <catopett> m-audio is dificult to make work in linux
[01:47] <catopett> Try google
[02:50] <holstein> munger: have you used JACK before?
[02:50] <holstein> !proaudio
[02:50] <holstein> munger: there are users using that device in #opensourcemusicians
[02:51] <holstein> its plug and play, AFAIK
[12:03] <munger> No, I haven't used JACK before, Yes, I have tried Google. I see the device as a microphone on the volume control settings and also as an analogue output
[13:21] <Munger> Is there an easy way to test if a usb audio input is actually producing anything?
[13:22] <Munger> i.e. before configuring JACK
[13:22] <studio-user117> hi to all
[14:36] <Munger> OK. Putting my audio woes behind me for a while, is there any way to get my touchscreen working? It works out of the box on Ubuntu 13.10
[15:07] <holstein> Munger: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. so it will work with ubuntustuduio
[15:08] <holstein> Munger: what do i suggest? if it works "out of the box" with ubuntu 13.10, then, install main ubuntu 13.10, and add what you like from the audio packages
[15:08] <holstein> Munger: i would say, my suggestion to you would be, use main ubuntu.. and download a live CD, either the ubuntustuduio live CD, or AVlinux, and use that to configure, and test JACK and get used to things in the pro audio work flow
[15:17] <Munger> I realise it's basically the same thing. Just seemed odd that US didn't work out of the box. Something is clearly different in the default configuration
[15:30] <edoardo> hi everyone
[15:30] <edoardo>  i'm trying to make an internet radio i'm streaming more "professional"
[15:30] <edoardo> i have a compressor, an eq, a fast lookahead limiter and some other things thanks to jamin
[15:30] <edoardo> playing with the parameters i found a way that sounds ok
[15:30] <edoardo> but i can still hear distortion, and the eq is a bit harsh
[15:30] <edoardo> does someone know something about mastering?
[15:40] <holstein> edoardo: you actually dont need to konw about mastering, i dont think
[15:40] <holstein> edoardo: distortion is what i would address
[15:40] <edoardo> holstein, looks like the compressor is giving distortion
[15:40] <holstein> edoardo: i would start by auditioning other streams, and see how the levels look and feel
[15:40] <holstein> then, try and match that level.. not trying to push it too hard
[15:40] <edoardo> what do you mean with auditioning?
[15:41] <edoardo> watching the spectrum?
[15:41] <holstein> edoardo: im talking about using the ear
[15:41] <edoardo> oh ok :)
[15:41] <holstein> edoardo: just listen.. match the level :)
[15:41] <holstein> edoardo: you could be just pushing it too hard
[15:41] <edoardo> probably
[15:41] <edoardo> maybe the attack/release time
[15:41] <holstein> try removing each element one at a time and see
[15:42] <holstein> but.. they can have an additive effect
[15:42] <edoardo> i'll try find a cool radio, record it, and try to accomplish the same result using the same song on the deck
[15:42] <edoardo> maybe it's the booster
[15:42] <holstein> just because limiter and comp alone are ok doesnt mean that together, the cumulative effect isnt too much
[15:42] <holstein> edoardo: could be
[15:42] <holstein> edoardo: i would try and KISS
[15:42] <edoardo> KISS?
[15:43] <holstein> edoardo: do as little as possible.. "gold in, gold out" as they say
[15:43] <edoardo> keep it simple stupid i think :P
[15:43] <holstein> edoardo: lol
[15:43] <holstein> edoardo: i prefer, "keep it stupid simple" :)
[15:43] <edoardo> it's better to make it "stupid simple"
[15:43] <edoardo> so it's idiot proof :P
[15:44] <holstein> well, and it really shouldnt take too much processing
[15:44] <holstein> you can always go to what normal radio broadcast do as well
[15:44] <holstein> but, that is not the same as "mastering" for an album, or CD
[15:44] <edoardo> a bit of loudness and stop?
[15:44] <holstein> its much more compressed, typically
[15:45] <holstein> you could emulate what a radio station does on the way out, though
[15:45] <edoardo> i'll try and do dat
[15:45] <holstein> which, is basically what i read that you are doing..
[15:45] <edoardo> i'll let you know
[15:45] <holstein> edoardo: i bet, just relaxing it will do the trick
[15:45] <edoardo> any good radio to start with?
[15:46] <holstein> edoardo: i would just go for a few that you like
[15:46] <holstein> something you really like the sound of
[15:46] <edoardo> well, the only one i like has an horrible sound D:
[15:46] <holstein> maybe something with dynamics.. an acoustic music show
[15:46] <holstein> edoardo: hehe.. its typical
[15:46] <holstein> edoardo: try something from a radio station.. BBC.. something that they spend money on
[15:47] <edoardo> i have to add eq both on the player and on the amplifier, also it has a hiss on 6khz
[15:47] <holstein> where is that coming from?
[15:47] <edoardo> what, the stream?
[15:48] <edoardo> the stream is directly from their studio to the net
[15:48] <holstein> i would try for optimal bandwidth.. test that locally. get that going with no regard to bandwidth issues.. then, kick it down to whatever you are going to be streaming and test and adjust
[15:48] <edoardo> they use 96kbit AAC+
[15:48] <holstein> its all a compromise
[15:48] <holstein> but, you can likely find something comfortable.. i would remove it all, and start over
[15:49] <edoardo> i reset the settings
[15:49] <holstein> if you are notching a big chunk out of 6khz, try and see why, and try and remove it from the source if possible
[15:49] <edoardo> i'll redo everything from scratch
[15:49] <holstein> see where it is being introduced
[15:49] <holstein> OH.. jupiterbroadcasting does nice streams
[15:49] <holstein> some audio and mostly speech
[15:49] <holstein> edoardo: you can also check with #opensourcemusicians and see if any streaming folks have
[15:50] <holstein> any big ideas
[15:50] <edoardo> asked there but no response so far
[15:51] <edoardo> the jupiterbroadcasting stream sounds nice
[15:51] <edoardo> the mic is confortable to hear
[15:51] <edoardo> seems like my Samson Go Mic
[16:00] <holstein> Munger: we have a lowlatency kernel.. and xfce
[16:00] <holstein> Munger: maybe one of those is not supporting your touchscreen
[16:01] <holstein> Munger: AFAIK, none of us are testing touchscreen specifically in ubuntustuduio.. but, you can add what you find works for you from main ubntu
[16:01] <holstein> *however*. i think, since you are not using JACK, it would be an arguably friendlier experience to just use main ubuntu, and add what you want from the studio packages.. which are in the main repos
[16:01] <cfhowlett> would #ubuntu-touch work?
[16:04] <holstein> !touch
[16:04] <holstein> maybe.. tough, i think that is more phone related..
[16:06] <cfhowlett> holstein, I would assume the tablet packages might have a workable touchscreen
[16:26] <Munger> Hmmm
[17:57] <nixnine> hey guys, i am using studio 13.04 and want to upgrade to 13.10.  How do I back up my system prior to the upgrade?
[17:57] <holstein> nixnine: however you like
[17:57] <nixnine> is there a recommended backup program?
[17:58] <holstein> nixnine: you can drag what you want to a drive. you can use ubuntuone.. you can use clonezilla.. some online storage.. literally anything
[17:58] <nixnine> ok
[17:58] <holstein> nixnine: you would need to elaborate foro me to make a recomendation based on your specific needs
[17:59] <holstein> nixnine: whatever the data, you need to determine the importance, and make plans for what is needed
[17:59] <nixnine> That's okay.  I was planning on just copying everything to a partion on an external hd
[17:59] <holstein> incremental backups.. longterm storage.. a few gigabytes. a bunch of 10+ gigabyte audio projects
[17:59] <holstein> a few hundered 8+gb video files..
[17:59] <holstein> whatever
[18:00] <holstein> nixnine: you may just want to wait and catch 14.04 in april
[18:00] <holstein> nixnine: there is no good reason to stay one version behind for stabilty, if thats what you are doing
[18:00] <nixnine> Yeah, that was what I thought
[18:01] <holstein> 14.04 will be a long term support release
[18:04] <nixnine> so should I upgrade now and then when 14.04 comes out?
[18:04] <holstein> nixnine: there is no "should".. just what is best for your needs
[18:07] <nixnine> well, i like to be up to date with the programs I use.  haven't had any updates in a couple months.