[00:42] Pleasant night to all southafricans, regardless their operating system [00:43] I have read about the existence of a weird distro called "apartheid linux" [00:44] based on ubuntu, and seemingly identical in all senses except some far-right decoration... [00:45] never tried it myself, though [00:52] good night SCR1845-6357A [01:10] goodnight to you too, Private_User [10:37] morning superfly not_found et al [10:37] oh sorry afternoon [10:38] cant believe they have banned grenadillas as an alien plant in za [10:39] Hey Kilos [10:39] hi theblazehen [11:02] hi Kilos [11:02] hi theblazehen [11:02] Maaz: coffee on [11:02] * Maaz puts the kettle on [11:02] hey charl_ [11:02] hi charl_ [11:03] Maaz coffee please [11:03] Kilos: Sure [11:03] Maaz rusks please [11:03] behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos [11:03] Maaz ty [11:03] You are welcome Kilos [11:06] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [11:11] o/ [11:13] hi Kilos [11:13] hi charl_ [11:13] hi theblazehen [11:13] hi not_found [11:13] hi Maaz [11:13] hi Golynx [11:22] * Golynx agrees with Telkom CEO Sipho Maseko "MTN, Vodacom is standing in the way of SA's future" http://techcentral.co.za/mtn-vodacom-standing-in-way-of-sas-future/46705/ [11:22] and Telkom isn't?! >.< [11:23] not_found, lol [11:24] telkom is much cheaper not_found [11:24] not_found: that maybe true in the fixed line arena, but its about mobile that reaches many more people in the country [11:25] at least there is the possibility for competition in the mobile area... but it is still ironical for Telkom to make statements like that.. [11:38] not_found: Telkom wants payback of its R50 billion it had to subsidise MTN and Vodacom since 1994. [11:39] yay maybe theyll drop 8ta data even more [11:43] Kilos that will happen , how soon ? depends on the court case of MTN and Vodacom has against Icasa [11:44] they big money okes so it can hang in courts for ages [11:46] ya true [11:46] but even them agree that mobile tarrifs must come down, but they want it to come down slowly at their pace [11:48] they want it cheap from telkom but dont want to lower their price to comsumers [11:48] swines [11:50] ya , its hard to get out of any kind of comfort zone, even for the big babies lol [11:51] you cant live in a mansion and drive the latest merc and live on peanuts [11:53] lol [11:53] they have to ditch the expensive peanuts for the cheaper ones [11:54] lol [12:02] who wanted to root a tablet here the other day? [12:02] just got a mail with instructions [12:22] afternoon all [12:22] hi Private_User [12:27] hi Kilos [12:45] hi Private_User [12:45] hi Golynx [12:51] hey charl_ [12:57] beroot, reboot [12:58] hehe [12:58] every make of tablet / phone may have a slightly different method of rooting... [13:00] ah [13:01] so if it was for the right device it would be all good :) [13:03] beetroot ? [13:03] sounds delicious ! [13:04] with a side of steak or roast? [13:05] :) [13:05] hehe [13:08] i'm getting hungry now [13:08] charl_, I just had a nice lunch :) [13:09] 2 toasted sandwiches, 3 slices of bread each, cheese + mayo [13:09] yum [13:12] can Maaz cook ? [13:12] no [13:13] we tried once to teach and ibid. but that is only possible for python experts [13:13] an ibid [13:13] maybe its a good thing, virtual food may make us even more hungry [13:13] lol [13:13] hey kbmonkey you not away [13:14] just lurking [13:14] lol [13:16] hi [13:17] trying to figure out update-alternatives here [13:17] my monkey dont pull the lurker stunts you gotta greet [13:17] always forget the command [13:17] what you wanna update [13:17] it is hot today Kilos [13:17] cold here [13:18] and wet [13:18] jealous [13:18] drizzled all night [14:09] wbb later [14:19] back, phone net was too slow [15:36] hmm... [16:25] hey SCR1845-6357A [16:25] hello Golynx [16:26] how is my fav password doing today [16:26] :) [16:26] really fine [16:26] ah that always good to hear :) [16:26] I hope the same applies to you [16:26] haha hi SCR1845-6357A [16:27] hi Kilos! [16:27] sure always got to keep the shiney side up :) [16:27] glad to know that! [16:33] he he hello [16:34] stuttering my mon? [16:34] monkey too [16:35] inetpro ping [16:35] ohi superfly [16:36] superfly... isn't a curties mayfield album or somethin? [16:36] i like curtis [16:37] and the 70s in general [16:40] hey, is there good music stores left in jozi? [16:40] Kilos, do you know any? [16:40] nope i dont go anywhere [16:40] all music is online now [16:41] but man, nothing like the pleasure of a old vinyl of your most loved albums [16:41] i only listen to old time music [16:41] haha [16:46] SCR1845-6357A you been here? [16:47] nope [16:47] but would like to one day [16:47] i wondered about you asking about music stores in jozi [16:48] jozi has everything [16:48] the fly is in capetown [16:48] they have everything too [16:48] except money [16:48] well, as far as I know jozi no longer has many of the things it once had [16:48] so that's why I asked it [16:49] ah [16:49] where are you from? [16:49] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vinyl-Joint/239042717792 [16:50] im from pretoria and durban [16:53] hi not_found [16:53] o/ [17:14] hi not_found [17:14] are you the third boolean state? [17:15] !objection [17:15] haha [17:15] hi kbmonkey [17:15] wb not_found [17:16] thanks all [17:16] hi Golynx [17:16] * not_found watches some Smite... the one game that I can't get to work outside windows no matter what :'( [17:17] I am about to make dinner before it is too late [17:17] not_found: sad to hear hey [17:17] if I didn't suck so bad at the game it would keep me on windows... [17:17] i mis Tricky Truck on windows, used to be in the top 3 on most of those tracks [17:18] http://www.twitch.tv/smitegame [17:18] tourney starting in 3 minutes [17:19] nice [17:24] evening people [17:24] hi Private_User [17:25] hey Kilos [17:25] hey Private_User have you worked on thew desktop pc yet? [17:26] I have been reading above see you were also from Durban, originally or just lived there for a few years? [17:26] lazy man [17:26] i went there just before i was 21 and left about 25 years later [17:27] but left natal that is [17:27] spent time inmaritzburg and utrecht [17:27] about 20 years in toti working in durbs [17:28] lol yeah I am, was actually gonna try the vacuum but after the news I heard this morning I forgot all about it will make sure I do it tomorrow [17:28] ok cool stuff Kilos [17:28] but were were born and grew up in GP [17:28] born in pta [17:29] I am also a KZN boy born and grew up here then moved up to GP lived there for almost 10years before times got hard and I had to move back home [17:30] oh you in durbs now? [17:30] been back now almost 2 years [17:30] nuvo and vince are also there [17:31] and lots of the dbnlug peeps [17:31] oh and the monkey too [17:31] ah cool stuff [17:31] are you on our mailing list [17:32] yeah my nick is on the mailing list :) [17:32] there are other guys with labs and things there [17:33] i forget names now will inform as memory serves [17:33] they got groups [17:33] ok cool will have to register myself on there so I can get invlolved [17:33] yeah [17:35] very clever linux peeps down there [17:37] miss GP a little though many friends there and also my sisters are there as well but my consolation is getting to wake up everyday and get a great view and whiff of that beautiful sea and its breeze and also spending time with the folks [17:38] i miss the sea [17:38] was a lifesaver at warnerdoone for 3 years [17:40] lekker always wondered what its like to be a life saver on a full time bases. Must be a great job, getting paid to swim and have fun on the beach [17:40] cause majority of the week the beach isn't that full [17:40] only weekends, holidays [17:40] and public holidays [17:41] yeah i did it weekends and leave time [17:41] warnerdoone? is that like in the South Coast? [17:41] in toti for my leave everyyear [17:41] ok cool [17:41] warner beach club ya [17:42] lekker in hols , all the holiday chicks [17:43] I bet [18:00] hi captine wb [18:00] hi Kilos [18:00] How you doing [18:01] good ty and you? [18:01] im smiling, running 12.04 64bit [18:01] doing good. [18:01] lekker fast [18:01] 12.04. nice. last night I managed to get 13.10 installed on macbook [18:01] very happy [18:02] love the keyboard on this machine [18:02] yeah only prob is the support is only for 6 months [18:02] yip [18:02] I will wipe it with 14.04 when released. 13.10 supports my macbook much better [18:03] per the wiki [18:03] 14.04 is out in 2 months then you can upgrade and get 3 years support [18:03] yip [18:03] am looking forward to it. Really liked 12.04 [18:03] had tried arch linux which was fun, but like the quick install and little effort to get a good looking machine with ubuntu [18:03] lts is lekker it gives next lts time to stabilise before support drops [18:04] yeah installs are getting quicker [18:04] was actually wanting to try PC-BSD10 but struggle to get it installed on my acer [18:04] only hold up nowadays is the upgrading via internet [18:05] true that [18:05] I managed to mirror almost all the 12.04 64bit repo's to make vm installs etc faster, but still need to get it working properly [18:05] hate waiting for downloads [18:05] thats why its good to save downloaded packages then if you need to install again you have them on hand [18:05] do you watch the linux action show at all? [18:06] mirrored where? [18:06] mirrored it on a home vm [18:06] on my lan [18:06] i rsync everything to an external [18:06] ah [18:08] n pe i dont watch shows [18:08] data dont allow vids etc [18:10] ah [18:10] I hate the cost of data here [18:10] anyhow. what can you do [18:10] yeah but getting better with telkom mobile [18:15] not too bad on cell c captine check CellC giga packages [18:15] prepaid data options [18:20] hi Proxima_Centauri [18:21] hi Proxima_Centauri [18:21] hi Proxima_Centauri [18:21] Private_User, thanks. Am on Cybersmart 70 gig during day and 1000 from midnight till 7 [18:21] or something like that [18:21] my second fav star [18:22] on ADSL [18:23] oh wow, whats the cost of that? [18:23] R700 [18:23] ish [18:24] on a 10meg [18:24] line [18:26] that is not too bad is there any additional costs or catches? is the data renewed monthly? [18:28] R544 per month for 20gig + line and then 99 extra for the additional 50gig + 1000 night gigs [18:28] afrihost may be cheaper. but I have been with cybersmart for many years and like their support [18:28] etc [18:29] ok and the data is renewed every month? [18:31] thats like data for the gods wow [18:31] hi captine [18:32] thats adsl captine ? [18:32] yes renewed each month [18:32] yip. adsl [18:32] us on farms dont have telkom lines [18:32] so must pay trelkom for the voice portion [18:33] Kilos, i would give up adsl to have a nice farm ;-) [18:33] haha [18:33] is fibre expensive, or are they just slow in rolling it out in SA [18:34] fibre is hectically expensive [18:34] How Long is a chinese guy [18:34] but, if you can afford it, the ROI is brilliant [18:34] hi superfly [18:34] theblazehen: is his brother's name "So Long"? [18:35] superfly, lol, nope [18:35] oh wow so its really that expensive to produce some light carrying tubes [18:35] nope the cost is not in the production [18:36] Golynx: it's actully quite expensive to manufacture, and then it can be more maintenance than copper [18:36] cybersmart offer 100mbps fibre uncapped in rosebank for R10 000 per month [18:36] but, the long term benefits and better - fibre is worth nothing, compared to copper [18:37] captine: considering I pay around R1000/month for 10Mbps, that's actually pretty much the same cost [18:37] ah i didnt know fibre were such high maintenance [18:37] but alot of stuff goes in there [18:38] they both translate down to R100 per Mbps [18:38] Golynx: they also have to redo their infrastructure. it's all based around copper right now [18:39] oh that makes sense, thanks superfly [18:40] superfly, yip. it might be comparable in terms of price per mbps, however, it is a lot of cash for a home user to pay [18:41] captine: absolutely [18:41] hence why I said it's well priced, but that doesn't mean that I can afford it! :-D [18:42] not a bad price though if a complex bought it and split it through 30 units or more. [18:42] but that is probably against terms and conditions [18:42] certainly if you're on cybersmart [18:42] I might know the MD, but that doesn't mean I agree with their T's & C's :-) [18:44] :) [18:44] lol [18:44] I must say, i didnt like some of their terms around using only them etc way back, but can understand it in terms of reducing their cost base on support etc [19:02] * Golynx likes the irc logs [19:03] haha [19:03] too much to read [19:03] you find some interesting info there :) [19:04] yeah but fun [19:04] hehe [20:25] inetpro ping [20:26] spose he is sleeping already [20:29] yeah almost everyone got a long Monday tomorrow [20:29] yeah shame [20:53] night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow time