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mdeslaur\o16:39
jjohanseno/16:39
jdstrandhi!16:39
jdstrand#startmeeting16:39
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Mar  3 16:39:58 2014 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:39
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:39
jdstrandThe meeting agenda can be found at:16:39
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting16:39
jdstrand[TOPIC] Review of any previous action items16:39
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of any previous action items
jdstrandchrisccoulson send oxide and qtwebkit benchmark results to mailing list16:40
chrisccoulsonheh, sorry, i still haven't done that yet. i'll do it later :)16:40
jdstrandok thanks16:40
jdstrand[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report16:40
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report
jdstrandI'll go first16:40
jdstrandI'm on triage16:40
jdstrandI have some updates to get to16:40
jdstrandI'd like to do some work on click-apparmor to support the newer frameworks (for the upcoming app showdown)16:41
jdstrandI need to look over before and after apparmor denials of running all the apps under qt5.0 and qt5.2 and investigate any new denials in 5.2 in preparation for its landing16:42
mdeslauroh hrm, were there a lot of them?16:42
jdstrand(I've been given the denials, just need to look at the reports, etc)16:42
jdstrandI'm not sure16:42
jdstrandthere were a lot of denials in both that I was a little surprised about16:43
jdstrandso, need to take a look16:43
mdeslaurhuh16:43
jdstrandapparently the denials are harmless enough, cause there aren't bugs open for what I saw16:43
mdeslaurah, good16:44
jdstrandlike, permy and network access. I think that might be the qt xml trying to do a name lookup or something (maybe for a dtd?) even though it is given a local url16:44
jdstrandie file://16:44
mdeslaurinteresting16:45
jdstrandand I have slightly more inbox catchup to do-- I did pretty well last week, but have a couple things left16:45
jdstrandthat's it from me16:46
jdstrandmdeslaur: you're up16:46
mdeslaurI'm on community this week16:46
mdeslaurI'm currently testing python and php5 updates which I'll be releasing today16:46
mdeslaurthere's a new gnutls issue out that I need to prepare updates for16:46
mdeslaurand the list is growing, so I have to catch up16:46
mdeslaurfriday I'm on patch piloting16:46
mdeslaurthat's it from me16:46
mdeslaursbeattie: you're up16:46
sbeattieI'm focused on apparmor stuff again this week.16:47
sbeattieI helped sarnold dig out some of the issues with the 2.9 snapshot we're trying to land, I think the only thing really remaining is the inability of the new utils to parse dbus rules.16:48
tyhickswhat is the plan there?16:48
sbeattieI'll also be focusing on helping jj test the ipc stuff.16:48
tyhicksignore the rules (like the old tools) or actually parse them?16:49
sbeattietyhicks: I'm trying to come up with a quickish patch to make parse them enough to not drop them.16:49
tyhicksnice16:49
sbeatties/make/16:50
sbeattieanyway, that's the big stuff for me this week.16:50
sbeattietyhicks: you're up16:50
tyhicksthe kernel keyring work took up a little more of my time last week than expected (but I did get the investigation done and a patch sent out)16:51
tyhicksso now I'm addressing the final few comments from the dbus-daemon mediation patches review16:51
tyhicksafter I get that done and resubmitted, I'll switch to kdbus for a day or two16:51
tyhicksand then hopefully I have some time to help out sbeattie and sarnold shake out issues with the pending upload16:52
tyhicksbut it sounds like they may get it done before I can help16:52
tyhicks:/16:52
tyhicksI feel bad for leaving some landmines laying around that they've had to deal with16:53
tyhicksthat's it for me16:53
tyhicksjjohansen: you're up16:53
jdstrandtyhicks: that keyring patch was for pam?16:53
tyhicksjdstrand: it was16:53
* jdstrand nods16:53
tyhicksjdstrand: pam_keyinit16:53
tyhicksjdstrand: we'16:53
tyhicksjdstrand: we've started to partially use it16:53
jdstrandneat16:53
tyhicksit is neat16:54
tyhicksbut it breaks some of the ecryptfs-utils tools16:54
tyhicksdhowells has already responded to my patch and I'm working on convincing him of my approach to fix it16:54
* jjohansen is working on apparmor again this week. primarily ipc kernel issues, and then maybe cross namespace stacking16:54
* tyhicks is done16:54
jjohansenheh, sorry tyhicks /me too the "it is neat" as done16:55
tyhicksnp :)16:55
jdstrandtyhicks: not to worry-- assuming a reactive update or two isn't required first, I know that jjohansen and sbeattie could use some help for the 14.04 deliverables and bug fixes (we always have stuff to do ;)16:56
jjohansenoh I suppose I am working with sbeattie on testing the ipc work as well16:56
jjohansenyeah jdstrand is right, tyhicks you weren't planning on sleeping this week where you?16:57
jjohansen;)16:57
tyhicksheh - it is cold here so long nights indoors won't be too bad16:58
jjohansenhehe16:58
jjohansenI think that is it for me, sarnold you're up16:59
jdstrandit is cold here16:59
jdstrand(brrr)16:59
jdstrandmdeslaur: I blame you and your Canadian air16:59
mdeslaurjdstrand: I blame you for global warming :)17:00
sarnoldI'm on apparmor packaging again, it feels closer now than before, thanks to some great debugging by jjohansen and sbeattie, I -think- the only remaining problems with the qrt tests are because the new python-based tools fail on the first mention of dbus17:00
* jdstrand likes being warm17:00
mdeslaurjdstrand: it'll be nice and warm here once texas is covered in molten lava :)17:00
sarnoldwhile this means e.g. aa-disable foo fails :( I still like these packages more than the old perl-based tools17:00
sarnoldI've also got several MIRs still outstanding: juju-core, schroot, strongswan, glusterfs, thermald17:01
jdstrandsarnold: where 'foo' is not the path to the file?17:01
jdstrandie aa-disable foo vs aa-disable /etc/apparmor.d/foo17:01
jdstrandI'm sorry, I haven't followed the aa-disable issue closely17:02
sarnoldthe nginx mir made some pretty good leaps forward last week, it's now blocked solely on a nginx module that requires lua 5.1 and would require significant work to work with lua 5.2. I hope someone else will sort that one out, no security impact there anyway..17:02
sbeattiejdstrand: no difference, aa-disable (py version) was reading/parsing all the profiles before doing anything.17:02
sarnoldjdstrand: sorry, 'foo' was just a placeholder, it'll fail completely regardless of how you use it17:02
sbeattiesarnold, jdstrand: I committed the fix to aa-disable upstream to not do that.17:02
sarnoldsbeattie: yay! thanks :)17:02
sbeattie(but the rest of the tools still do :( )17:03
jdstrandsbeattie: ah, so it ended up being a dbus parsing casualty as a result?17:03
sbeattiejdstrand: yes17:04
jdstrandI see17:04
sarnoldoh yes, I've also got an internally-requested php module audit to finish. (quite the jarring experience after the nginx code..)17:05
sarnoldanyway I think that's me done, chrisccoulson?17:05
chrisccoulsoni'm finishing work on our user-agent override mechanism this week, which is quite a big chunk of work17:06
jdstrandnice!17:06
chrisccoulsoni also reimplemented the script messaging API on the renderer side last week (the original implementation was rushed to get unit tests working), which fixes some bugs: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/oxide/user-scripts-and-messaging-rework17:06
chrisccoulsoni guess this week will be more of the same :)17:07
chrisccoulsoni think that's me done17:07
mdeslaurcool17:08
jdstrand[TOPIC] Highlighted packages17:09
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jdstrandThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.17:09
jdstrandSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.17:09
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tinc.html17:09
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/argyll.html17:09
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libipc-pubsub-perl.html17:09
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/lcgdm.html17:09
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/9base.html17:09
jdstrand[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions17:09
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jdstrandDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?17:10
jdstrandmdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: thanks!17:14
jdstrand#endmeeting17:14
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Mar  3 17:14:51 2014 UTC.17:14
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-03-03-16.39.moin.txt17:14
mdeslaurthanks jdstrand!17:14
sbeattiejdstrand: woot, thanks!17:14
jjohansenthanks jdstrand17:14
sarnoldthanks jdstrand17:17
* kees waves "hi"20:57
keesmdeslaur, stgraber: it's just the 3 of us so far! :)20:59
mdeslaur\o20:59
* stgraber waves20:59
kees#startmeeting21:01
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Mar  3 21:01:32 2014 UTC.  The chair is kees. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.21:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick21:01
keesso, uhm, just the 3 of us... do we want to go through the agenda anyway? Looks like it hasn't been updated.21:01
mdeslaurnot sure we really have anything to discuss21:02
keesyeah, me either.21:02
keesmysql MRE, maybe?21:02
stgraberwe probably ought to vote on the new LTS flavours though if we don't have quorum, that's not terribly useful21:02
stgraberand I'd be happy to do it on the list21:02
keesyeah, that should be on list.21:02
mdeslaurlooks like mysql MRE had enough votes on the list to approve it21:02
keesyeah, just noticed that now.21:03
keesshortest meeting evar!21:03
mdeslaurhehe21:03
stgraberyeah, we just need a single +1 for a MRE, so someone just needs to put it on the wiki (either as full MRE or just provisional, whatever seems approperiate)21:03
keesno community bugs open.21:03
mdeslaurFYI, I fully agree with the mysql MRE21:04
keesyeah, me too.21:04
keesok. mdeslaur I think you're next to chair?21:04
mdeslaurfine with me21:04
keesexcellent. thanks you guys. :)21:05
kees#endmeeting21:05
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Mar  3 21:05:34 2014 UTC.21:05
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-03-03-21.01.moin.txt21:05
stgraberthanks!21:05
stgrabershort and sweet!21:05
mdeslauroh, mysql is already in the wiki21:05
mdeslaurthanks stgraber, kees!21:05
keesmdeslaur: yeah, pitti said he was going to add it in his email21:05
stgraberwhen I have a minute, I'll look at those flavour e-mails and start voting, hopefully the rest will follow and we can get that over with soon enough21:05
mdeslaurstgraber: cool21:06
stgraber(I wanted to do it before the meeting, but obviously $annoying_bug_of_the_day prevented me from doing it ;))21:06
sabdflhi all21:09
stgraberhey sabdfl21:09
mdeslaurhi sabdfl21:09
keeshi sabdfl21:09
sabdflthought i'd stop by in case there was any perspective i could provide on init21:11
sabdfldon't let me interrupt :)21:12
keessabdfl: meeting is already over -- nothing really to discuss, and only (at the time) 3 of us too.21:12
sabdflah, ok21:13
sabdflyou guys are super-efficient, thank you!21:13
keesheh.21:13
sabdflsorry that init has reared its head again in debian21:13
sabdflwhile i completely understand the concerns, and i think it's naive of russ to wish for "independent implementations of interfaces" when the init they've adopted takes, um, a "whatever" approach to interfaces, it's simply too little too late now21:14

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