| rick_h_ | anyone have a pinboard account? | 00:55 |
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| rick_h_ | evening and all | 00:55 |
| jrwren | pinboard? is that like pintrst? | 02:20 |
| rick_h_ | heh, it's the snarky version of delicious | 02:21 |
| jrwren | oh | 02:21 |
| rick_h_ | https://twitter.com/pinboard | 02:21 |
| cmaloney | I deleted mine a while back so no | 03:11 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: ok cool | 03:12 |
| rick_h_ | all good | 03:12 |
| rick_h_ | I think we've got an import bug fixed but want to verify | 03:12 |
| rick_h_ | but it requires a pinboard dump with a private bookmark in the export | 03:12 |
| cmaloney | right | 03:12 |
| rick_h_ | I should spend the $10 and just do it | 03:12 |
| rick_h_ | but something psychological about paying the $$ to pinboard...seems wrong | 03:12 |
| cmaloney | Does lmorchard have an account? | 03:13 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I might bug him if he's at CHC or something | 03:13 |
| rick_h_ | he's algo got a giant giant one and just need something small | 03:13 |
| rick_h_ | I thought a few people here had accounts | 03:13 |
| greg-g | not I | 03:13 |
| greg-g | I use bookie :) | 03:13 |
| cmaloney | I did but his attitude started pissing me off | 03:14 |
| rick_h_ | you guys are too good to me :) | 03:14 |
| cmaloney | heh, Twitter is down, | 03:14 |
| greg-g | :) | 03:14 |
| cmaloney | I'm getting some failbot | 03:14 |
| rick_h_ | :/ oh well. There are times I think it's better that way | 03:15 |
| rick_h_ | though I just found out about a NAS rootkit from twitter so guess I can't complain today | 03:15 |
| greg-g | yeah | 03:15 |
| greg-g | I just checked mine, and installed "Antivirus Essential" (which probably won't help, but it felt good) | 03:16 |
| greg-g | I'm ok, but man | 03:16 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 03:16 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I had thought about running a service or two on it but this affirms my decision not to | 03:16 |
| cmaloney | They rolled out some new "following shit" for a second in my time stream. I look forward to seeing big photos of people I couldn't care less about | 03:16 |
| rick_h_ | last thing I want is to give someone access to every backup of every file going back years across multiple machines :/ | 03:16 |
| cmaloney | I'm starting to consider getting a NAS for my music / backups | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | my synology is slow, but it's nice and does the job | 03:17 |
| cmaloney | but seems the base-cost for anything that I might want is $300+ for bare metal | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | cron'd rsync and voila | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it took me over a year to bite the $$ on it | 03:17 |
| greg-g | yeah, slow but 19 watts at peak is awesome | 03:17 |
| greg-g | (the one I got) | 03:18 |
| rick_h_ | yea, exacttly, sits quiet in the corner | 03:18 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I got the atom one so that it was lower power | 03:18 |
| greg-g | yep | 03:18 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, time to go read some more kanban before bed. See you all later | 03:18 |
| cmaloney | How do they do RAID On thise things? Are they only RAID1? | 03:18 |
| cmaloney | Laterness. | 03:18 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: you can choose either standard raid 1 or synology hybrid raid (which is built using floss piece, iirc) that lets you grow/shrink your partition as you add bigger/smaller harddrives | 03:20 |
| greg-g | or no raid | 03:20 |
| cmaloney | Ah, so LVMish? | 03:20 |
| greg-g | yeah | 03:20 |
| greg-g | ish | 03:20 |
| cmaloney | Hmmm.. | 03:20 |
| cmaloney | Everything in my being says I want RAID5, save for my wallet which thinks buying a bigger drive is A-OK. | 03:21 |
| greg-g | http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/What_is_Synology_Hybrid_RAID%3F | 03:21 |
| cmaloney | "The SHR allows for 1-disk worth of redundancy - meaning that the SHR volume can suffer the lost of one disk, and the data volume will still be available for use." | 03:22 |
| cmaloney | OK, that's fucked up | 03:22 |
| jrwren | you could do like I do and crazy LVM it. | 03:23 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: wait,why is that fucked up? | 03:23 |
| cmaloney | I lived through a RAID-0 set up at Ford. I'm never doing that again. | 03:23 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: I thought it was just one drive. ;) | 03:24 |
| greg-g | haha | 03:25 |
| greg-g | yeah, it's basically raid 1, but a bit smarter with random sized disks | 03:25 |
| jrwren | i should probably do more raid. at this point, even the stuff I don't actually care about would be annoying enough to replace. | 03:26 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: same here | 03:26 |
| greg-g | I did it, even though I only have 2x2tb in there, in case I want to upgrade to 4tb at some point. 1: buy 2x4tb 2: replace 1 of the disks 3: let it heal 4: replace the other one 5: heal 6: success (with step 0 being: "have a fucking backup as always") | 03:26 |
| jrwren | but that is the pain... a backup. | 03:27 |
| jrwren | now it costs 3X at much! | 03:27 |
| greg-g | raid != backup | 03:27 |
| jrwren | yes. | 03:27 |
| greg-g | :) | 03:27 |
| jrwren | i just want storage. | 03:27 |
| greg-g | then go raid 0 | 03:27 |
| greg-g | :P | 03:27 |
| jrwren | now I gotta pay 3X so that I can suffer disk fail & suffer human fail | 03:28 |
| jrwren | I have JBOD via LVM now ;) | 03:28 |
| jrwren | its awesome | 03:28 |
| jrwren | knock on wood :) | 03:28 |
| greg-g | yep, which is, what, 3 x $100 for 3tb? | 03:28 |
| jrwren | probably | 03:28 |
| jrwren | but I've got a bit more than that. | 03:28 |
| greg-g | it was that for 2 tb when I did it half a year ago | 03:28 |
| jrwren | 2-4TB and 3-2TB | 03:28 |
| greg-g | wow | 03:29 |
| greg-g | all jbod? | 03:29 |
| jrwren | one of teh 1tb isn't even plugged in yet :) | 03:29 |
| jrwren | i just got it last week | 03:29 |
| jrwren | all in an LVM VG, and then I carve as needed. | 03:29 |
| jrwren | so I have a mirrored LV and a nonmirrored LV | 03:29 |
| greg-g | ah | 03:29 |
| cmaloney | So is there a preferred way to do backup in the cloud? | 03:32 |
| jrwren | not prefered by me. | 03:32 |
| jrwren | i was doing tar | gpg | s3 | 03:32 |
| greg-g | git-annex copy . --to glacier | 03:33 |
| greg-g | git-annex copy . --to mycolobox | 03:33 |
| greg-g | done | 03:33 |
| greg-g | gpg support built in, as needed/wanted | 03:33 |
| jrwren | git-annex? | 03:33 |
| greg-g | OMG | 03:33 |
| greg-g | http://git-annex.branchable.com/ | 03:34 |
| greg-g | joey hess, debian amazing dude | 03:34 |
| cmaloney | better than duplicity? | 03:34 |
| greg-g | it is fucking rock solid | 03:34 |
| jrwren | i think i've seen this, but I"ve not heard anything | 03:34 |
| greg-g | git-annex isn't really comparable to duplicity | 03:34 |
| greg-g | I love love love love love git-annex | 03:34 |
| greg-g | so, here's an example | 03:35 |
| jrwren | cool, thanks I'll check it out | 03:35 |
| greg-g | I have my Photos/ dir, it shows exactly everything that git-annex knows exists | 03:35 |
| greg-g | ie: all years etc | 03:35 |
| greg-g | they're all symlinks, to a hash version of the file | 03:36 |
| greg-g | the symlinks are checked in git, thus you can go back in time | 03:36 |
| greg-g | the symlinks are either broken (pointing to non existant data) or not | 03:36 |
| greg-g | I do "git-annex get $somefilename" and it'll get that file from some other remote that has it (or tell me "hey, plug in this harddrive" | 03:37 |
| greg-g | it has safe guards out the wazo | 03:37 |
| greg-g | like, numcopies (whic you set in .gitattributes) | 03:37 |
| greg-g | I have it set to 3 for my Photos/videos, which means it won't let me 'git-annex drop' any file if it can' verify the existance of 3 copies | 03:38 |
| greg-g | (in trusted locations, and I tell it not to trust my laptop(s)) | 03:38 |
| * greg-g stops self | 03:38 | |
| greg-g | well, one more thing | 03:38 |
| greg-g | there's also the dropbox-type mode (called "direct", opposite of indirect) which is everything just no symlinks | 03:39 |
| greg-g | the files are all there as real files | 03:39 |
| greg-g | but it auto syncs to your remotes for you | 03:39 |
| * greg-g stops for real | 03:39 | |
| brousch | Bitter cold today. Must be a dry cold. | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea, -9F on the weather station this morning | 12:54 |
| brousch | It sucks the warmth from any exposed skin | 12:59 |
| rick_h_ | I'm afraid http://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/ | 13:19 |
| cmaloney | I find this surprising | 13:19 |
| brousch | Siri will calm you | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | heh, siri better listen to what my google voice has to say | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | and apple maps? I already think twice when google gives me directions :P | 13:20 |
| brousch | You need an iphone for it | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | Interesting that Ford is a partner | 13:21 |
| brousch | It must be an option | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | iPhone only = No deal. | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | I'm already a little ticked that I have to get a special cable for my VW if I want to hook it up directly. | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | Comes with the 30pin connector. | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | yep | 13:22 |
| brousch | Like a built-in Apple dock? | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | Yeah. it's in the glove box | 13:23 |
| brousch | ew | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | Well, the theory is you'll put your phone in the glove box and use it with their system | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | the reality is nobody puts their phone in the glove box on purpose. | 13:24 |
| brousch | Ford makes sense as a partner. Why would they extract themselves from MS just to be locked in again? | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it's a bit crazy | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | BT ftw | 13:24 |
| brousch | Hopefully this kind of thing will be a modular install and you can pick what you want | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | brousch: doubtful. It'll be a package. | 13:25 |
| cmaloney | You want 4 wheel disc brakes? You'll need the sunroof and Carplay. | 13:25 |
| brousch | I always buy used, so my hope is it can be replaced after market | 13:28 |
| cmaloney | pfft. | 13:29 |
| cmaloney | Good luck with that. | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | heh, so ford with have qnx, carplay, and sync? | 13:30 |
| cmaloney | Looks like that's the case though I'm not sure what's going on | 13:33 |
| brousch | Different models could have different systems | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | jack of all trades...master of none | 13:35 |
| brousch | Or feel out all of the options to settle on one | 13:36 |
| cmaloney | Either that or Apple has moved to QNX for embedded ca systems. | 13:36 |
| cmaloney | but that's pretty far-fetched. :) | 13:37 |
| cmaloney | and completely wrong afaict. | 13:38 |
| brousch | Well it requires an iphone, so the car part could just be a sort of thin client | 13:39 |
| rick_h_ | not really, there's an array of hardware, drivers, integration with backup cameras/etc | 13:40 |
| rick_h_ | it can't really be a think client for the phone | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, if anything it'll be it's own beast. | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | You don't want your customers not able to tune in a station because they forgot their phone | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | that said, if they do make it a thin client I'll laugh my ass off. | 13:41 |
| mrgoodcat | hello | 13:49 |
| rick_h_ | party | 13:49 |
| brousch | Anyone going to the Novi LEGO GermFest 2014? | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | no, we went last year but think I'm going to stay home this year | 13:50 |
| brousch | We got a flyer for it in the mail, and my kid found it before I could destroy it | 13:50 |
| brousch | Having a kid who can read well is not always a plus | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 13:51 |
| brousch | You said it was insaley busy? | 13:52 |
| brousch | insanely | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | we got there right when it started so it was nice | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, it got pretty busy, and it's cool, but a bit far to drive and $$ to go to | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | it's cool, and we might go next year but it's not an every year thing imo | 13:52 |
| brousch | The Grand Rapids Public Museum just opened a new LEGO architecture exhibit Saturday. We tried to go Sunday, but I estimated the line to get in at 2 hours | 13:53 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 13:53 |
| brousch | That didn't go over well | 13:54 |
| brousch | So we ended up at the Children's Museum | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: BTW: The Caribou location that closed by you? | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | They're planning a Bean and Tea there. | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | We went to the one on 16 and Rochester yesterday. | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | Looked nice. The MH location is supposed to open 3/11 | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | I think they're still working out the kinks though. I got a green tea that was next to undrinkable | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | and J's latte was weak for her. | 14:36 |
| rick_h_ | yay and ugh | 14:39 |
| rick_h_ | I don't know, now that starbucks has google wifi and they know me there it'll be hard to switch again | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | heh | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | I told JoDee that you were real close to installing their app. She looked horrified. :) | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | but my mifi is getting used a lot less now | 14:41 |
| mrgoodcat | i really don't like starbucks | 14:48 |
| mrgoodcat | but google wifi is pretty nice | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I was cranky about the change | 14:49 |
| rick_h_ | but I've got my one drink, and headphones, and now decent wifi | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | contentment comes in many forms. :) | 14:49 |
| mrgoodcat | wifi is decent at biggby | 14:49 |
| mrgoodcat | or at least the one i go to | 14:49 |
| rick_h_ | I've not found a drink I like there | 14:49 |
| rick_h_ | but don't go too often, not one around here | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Problem with the biggby by us is it's really cramped | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | they converted a Wendy's to a biggby so there's not a lot of seating. | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | (John R and 13 mile) | 14:50 |
| mrgoodcat | that used to be a wendy's? | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | Yep | 14:50 |
| mrgoodcat | thats the one i go to | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: hah. Me too. | 14:50 |
| mrgoodcat | its on my way to work at 7.5 mile on dequindre | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | Right, so the drive thru is decent (if you come in from the back way) | 14:51 |
| brousch | Some Biggbys are tiny | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | i come in from john r but i just drive around the building | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | but actually sitting in there for a while can be a bit problematic if they're busy. | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | recently i've been going inside | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | the biggbys are nicer in the lansing area | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Early morning might not be too bad | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Yeah, that's closer to the mothership iirc. | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | yup | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | started by MSU students | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | sort of like Tim Hortons in Port Huron are amazing because they're closer to the mothership | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | beaner's coffee | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | the one by me is pretty meh | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | they had to change the name because of a lawsuit | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | First time I had Beaners was at Books a Million in Ohio | 14:53 |
| brousch | Biggby's French Roast is good, the rest is meh | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | yeah, I remember the name change. | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | brousch: They have nice candy drinks | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | yup | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | carmel marvel is my poison | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | if you like sugar you should like biggby | 14:54 |
| brousch | True, their cinnamin chai tea latte is good | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | i get caramel mocha | 14:54 |
| brousch | Those fru-fru drinks are like a milk shake | 14:54 |
| brousch | And the super Red Eye with 4 shots is what pushed my caffeine over the edge | 14:55 |
| mrgoodcat | wow | 14:55 |
| mrgoodcat | did you vibrate and glow | 14:55 |
| mrgoodcat | ? | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | He probably folded space and would up somewhere in the middle of Borculo | 14:56 |
| brousch | Gave me Angina. Now I can't drink a cola 2 days in a row | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | s/would/wound/ | 14:56 |
| brousch | cmaloney: My ancestors founded Borculo | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | They should have picked a better name | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | Sounds like something you'd try to pass off as a Scrabble word when nobody is paying attention | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | i didn't realize caffeine could give you angina | 14:58 |
| brousch | It's a drug. You can OD | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | damn | 14:58 |
| brousch | So I got off caffeine but still sensitive too it | 14:59 |
| brousch | rick_h_: apparently there is a requirement that conversations between mentors and students have to be "public". I think this means the IRC should be logged | 15:06 |
| brousch | Might want to crack down on PMers | 15:06 |
| cmaloney | Or send them to the mailing list. | 15:06 |
| brousch | cmaloney: He has a lot of activity on IRC | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | samgtr: brousch yea, I've just not gotten a logger setup | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | bah | 15:07 |
| brousch | hehe | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: but yea | 15:07 |
| brousch | I didn't know that until just now | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've tried to keep things public | 15:07 |
| brousch | I had some PM conversations with bookie potential students, mostly trying to get them to move it to #bookie | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | I've come to try to crush that | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | just as a matter of scaling | 15:14 |
| mrgoodcat | everybody thinks if they pm you they will get more individual attention | 15:20 |
| mrgoodcat | do you use irssi highlighter? | 15:21 |
| cmaloney | I use weechat | 15:25 |
| cmaloney | so I get some highlighting | 15:25 |
| brousch | Pidgin 4 Lyf! | 15:26 |
| mrgoodcat | but you don't get persistent session | 15:31 |
| mrgoodcat | if someone mentions you when you aren't on you will never know | 15:31 |
| brousch | If someone mentions me when I'm not on I don't give a shit ;) | 15:33 |
| brousch | They will either wait until I am on, or email me | 15:34 |
| mrgoodcat | but rick_h_ has responsibilities on irc | 15:35 |
| mrgoodcat | also, he could set the highlighter to hilight a specific prefix to queue questions about bookie intended for him | 15:35 |
| rick_h_ | we use it for a team highlight in our work channels | 15:36 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui and guihelp ring everyone on the team | 15:36 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui meeting in 10 | 15:36 |
| rick_h_ | etc | 15:36 |
| rick_h_ | it's common practice | 15:36 |
| mrgoodcat | i love the hilighter | 15:36 |
| brousch | Ack, meetup is still down due to DDoS | 15:39 |
| cmaloney | wtf? Who decided that was a target? | 15:40 |
| greg-g | heh, I find it funny | 15:41 |
| mrgoodcat | aren't they cloudflare protected? | 15:41 |
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| cmaloney | Anyone want a wrist pedometer that isn't internet connected? | 16:20 |
| rick_h_ | heh, giving up on ye ole casio? | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | The Sync, yeah. | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | Apparently JoDee doesn't want to wear a brick on her wrist. Who knew? | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | So getting her a fitbit zip | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | for our 13th engagement anninversary | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | (yes, I can rationalize anything. ;) ) | 16:22 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: whoa, congrats :) | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | tx | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | We've known each other for 20+ years | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | so we were an old married couple before we became an old married couple. :) | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | "I love you, now watch how much excercise you get please" seems a strange combo | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | Well, we're also getting a recumbant folding exercise bike | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | ah, so it's a general theme | 16:24 |
| cmaloney | because Doc said in her sweet Asian accent "you're a fat ass" | 16:24 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it's so we both can get fit. | 16:24 |
| brousch | rick_h_: "I have loved the last 20 years with you, so here's a present that will help ensure we both live through the next 20" | 16:25 |
| cmaloney | and mostly because I want a walking partner | 16:25 |
| greg-g | brousch: nice | 16:25 |
| cmaloney | brousch: I like the way you think | 16:25 |
| brousch | Ug. Wife is emailing me with tent buying suggestions. It looks like camping will become a regular thing | 16:27 |
| greg-g | yay! | 16:28 |
| rick_h_ | hah, we're heading to macinaw end of may | 16:28 |
| rick_h_ | come hang out at the camper, sell her of living high | 16:28 |
| greg-g | don't go to the dark side! | 16:28 |
| greg-g | though, I take that back | 16:28 |
| brousch | My brother has a giant camper | 16:28 |
| rick_h_ | we've got a small one :) | 16:28 |
| greg-g | I'd go to the dark side for the next.... 8 years until Rowan can carry his own ;) | 16:28 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: You have a transformer | 16:28 |
| brousch | It's nice, but a lot of maintenance and money when you consider needing a powerful vehicle for it | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, though this year we've got the goal of getting him biking at the camp grounds and seeing if he can do one mile hikes | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: lots of trails around campgrounds | 16:29 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: cool, yeah | 16:29 |
| cmaloney | I'm surprised you don't just stand outside it with a key-fob and hit a button and watch as Camptimus Prime sets himself up | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: we've been thinking of backpacking off of camper base camps as possible trips as he gets older | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: lol | 16:29 |
| greg-g | Rowan loves the hiking part. When he was ~8 months old he crawled up half a mile of Muir Woods trail :) | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: hey, we've got a rather low tech one, though my airsteam will come | 16:30 |
| brousch | geez! | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | nice! | 16:30 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: I call dibs on decorating the side of it with "sardines". ;) | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: :P | 16:30 |
| cmaloney | it's either that or "spam". ;) | 16:31 |
| brousch | If I'm camping, I'd prefer a tent. If i need a camper, I'd rather just stay in a hotel | 16:31 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Everyone says that until "the incident" | 16:31 |
| brousch | cmaloney: True | 16:32 |
| brousch | My brother's incident was a week of constant rain in the UP | 16:32 |
| cmaloney | yep | 16:32 |
| rick_h_ | grrrrrr | 16:32 |
| * rick_h_ probably should not have sent that... | 16:32 | |
| cmaloney | That's when you find out that the tent area is below sea-level. | 16:32 |
| cmaloney | the logo? | 16:33 |
| brousch | That's when I just bite the bullet and get a hotel nearby | 16:33 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: ^ | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: seriously though, we should find a common campground sometime | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: multi tasking too much and getting tired of people that want to get involved but can't read | 16:33 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: That's OK. That's how things get resolved. | 16:34 |
| brousch | Last year we did an extended family camping trip to Grand Traverse. We borrowed a tent and my brother had his camper. It was good. Then we went to a hotel in Mackinaw City for a few more days | 16:34 |
| cmaloney | Maybe he has a better idea | 16:34 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: no, he's confused as can be | 16:34 |
| rick_h_ | and hung up on twitter bootstrap, which I hate... | 16:34 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Enlightenment comes in mysterious ways | 16:35 |
| brousch | Wat?! Everybody loves bootstrap! | 16:35 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: cool, we did some trip planning this weekend for the year | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | sometimes through quiet contemplation. Sometimes with a cricket bat. :) | 16:35 |
| rick_h_ | H8 BOOTSTRAP! | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | No matter the path, the destination is the same. | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | (see also: boot to the head) | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | OK, I'm twelve | 16:37 |
| cmaloney | Someone abbreviated FileApp in this code. | 16:38 |
| cmaloney | i snickered. | 16:38 |
| greg-g | lol | 16:38 |
| * greg-g is also 12 | 16:39 | |
| cmaloney | ;) | 16:39 |
| brousch | :-D | 16:40 |
| brousch | Entirely accicental, I'm sure | 16:40 |
| greg-g | it was convention! | 16:40 |
| greg-g | first letter of first name plus full last name | 16:40 |
| brousch | Tent ordered: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001TS6WWC/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item | 16:41 |
| brousch | Basically the one we borrowed | 16:41 |
| rick_h_ | whoa, big tent | 16:42 |
| rick_h_ | how many folks? | 16:42 |
| brousch | 3 | 16:42 |
| brousch | It has a sleeping section, a separated middle section, and a screened porch | 16:43 |
| brousch | Could sleep 6 if we wanted to | 16:43 |
| rick_h_ | wow | 16:43 |
| greg-g | a little different style than Carrie and I :) | 16:45 |
| brousch | I assume you do what amounts to a bug screen over a sleeping bag | 16:45 |
| greg-g | well, that's what I sleep in, they sleep in the ultra-light 2 person | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | we've got the 4 person version of http://www.rei.com/product/864960/rei-hobitat-6-tent-special-buy for big trips | 16:46 |
| greg-g | I'm in a bivy, they're in the tent | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | with the http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Noahs-Tarp-16-16x16-Feet/dp/B009R9FTW4/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1393865125&sr=1-1&keywords=kelty+tarp | 16:46 |
| brousch | greg-g: You're making my skin crawl | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | tie off the tarp to the bars on the car and make a lean-to porch area | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | or when away from teh car using trees | 16:46 |
| greg-g | brousch: depends on the mosquito population :P | 16:46 |
| cmaloney | and whether or not greg-g is going commando that night | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | yea, we've got something like http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-Saguaro-Bivy-Shelter-Tent/dp/B000IU11MS/ref=sr_1_24?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1393865226&sr=1-24&keywords=coleman+backpacking+tent for backpacking | 16:47 |
| brousch | greg-g: Thanks for the reminder. Stocking up on flying bug deterrents | 16:47 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: that's an unknown? | 16:47 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Depends on how far away from civilization you are | 16:47 |
| greg-g | it does? | 16:48 |
| cmaloney | and whether or not the bears will get frightened. | 16:48 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:48 |
| brousch | Could we camp on the lawn at PyOhio? | 16:48 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 16:48 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Last time students camped out in Ohio it was bad news. | 16:48 |
| brousch | With school out we could find a hidden patch of grass and now one would know | 16:49 |
| brousch | no one, too | 16:49 |
| brousch | Anyone camped in Kentucky? I'm thinking near the caves | 17:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: it's on my wife's list | 17:02 |
| greg-g | haven't been to kentucky since we drove through from MO to Nashville | 17:02 |
| rick_h_ | ok, have to say this is awesome. It's taken a couple of days and some coaching but this is a nice pull request. https://github.com/sammyshj/Bookie/pull/1 | 17:02 |
| brousch | I went there as a boy scout. It was fun | 17:02 |
| brousch | Wow. $20-$30/night. That's dirt cheap, no wonder people camp | 17:05 |
| rick_h_ | yea, when we go to the local place it's $33 a night and they've got lakes, trails, activities for the kids, etv | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | go for a weekend and it's $100. That's movie and dinner night for the family | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | of course then there's the $$ on the camper, the touareg...but you're not supposed to add that in | 17:06 |
| greg-g | heh | 17:07 |
| cmaloney | Last time I was in Kentucky camping I was sitting on my dad's shoulders. | 17:49 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/samsung-announces-new-11-6-and-13-3-arm-powered-chromebooks-with-faux-leather-finish-starting-at-319-99/ | 17:51 |
| cmaloney | Great, it's the era of beaver-whack for computing | 17:53 |
| cmaloney | next year we'll change the tail-lights and grill | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: more interesting is the HD 13" version | 17:55 |
| rick_h_ | get out of the resolution rut | 17:55 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, but they're still caught in the chrome keyboard rut no? | 18:05 |
| brousch | I don't mind the Chromebook keyboard | 18:12 |
| cmaloney | The layout bugs me a hair | 18:12 |
| brousch | Response from my wife when I suggested Mammoth Cave: " I like the mammoth cave idea except we A. don't know the area /camping with someone who knows the area. B. Bears. C. Scary bears. | 18:12 |
| cmaloney | no risk, no reward. | 18:15 |
| cmaloney | That said, there's just caves there | 18:16 |
| cmaloney | no mammoths. | 18:16 |
| cmaloney | They should just call it "big caves" | 18:16 |
| cmaloney | but then nobody would show up would they? | 18:16 |
| brousch | They need to get a minecraft theme going for them | 18:19 |
| brousch | Looking at a Jellystone campground now | 18:53 |
| cmaloney | OK, this is starting to freak me out | 19:01 |
| cmaloney | Dec: got some order receipts for a guy ordering something from Planet Natural | 19:01 |
| cmaloney | Right name, wrong address, email to gmail | 19:02 |
| cmaloney | thought that was strange | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: +1 we want to hit one of those up | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: there's a couple up north that look like a lot of kids fun | 19:02 |
| cmaloney | just now: got a call to google voice for a greg looking to buy something from Canada. | 19:02 |
| cmaloney | some wheat powder shit | 19:02 |
| brousch | rick_h_: We might do a weekend at South Haven as a dry-run for the setup http://www.southhavenjellystone.com/ | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: very cool | 19:04 |
| brousch | Will probably still be ice on Lake MI in April though | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | yea, we wanted to get going in april but I've got a lot of travel | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | I'm thinking it's probably not a bad idea to wait a bit this sprint | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | the plow truck just granted me a nice end of drive pile to clean up yay | 19:07 |
| cmaloney | woot | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | go march go :/ | 19:07 |
| brousch | At least we're missing out on this latest snopacalypse | 19:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, just got a few more inches | 19:09 |
| brousch | rick_h_: PRepare your wallet http://bizopy.com/turing-water-into-wine-with-your-iphone/ | 20:06 |
| mrgoodcat | alan turing would approve | 20:10 |
| greg-g | god, such a douchey video intro | 20:12 |
| rick_h_ | well it is for iphone users :P | 20:13 |
| mrgoodcat | i wonder if it works | 20:14 |
| mrgoodcat | it works on android as well apparently | 20:14 |
| rick_h_ | yea, just going off url :) | 20:14 |
| mrgoodcat | 2$ for a bottle of wine though? not so bad | 20:14 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, this video has me coughing *bull$#@* over and over | 20:14 |
| mrgoodcat | if you make 28 bottles that are supposedly 20$ each you make your 500$ back | 20:15 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: :) | 20:15 |
| mrgoodcat | i can't watch the video at work | 20:15 |
| rick_h_ | oh good grief...it's a keureg for wine?! | 20:16 |
| rick_h_ | "just put in our mixing ingredients" | 20:16 |
| rick_h_ | *sigh* | 20:16 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: you know those studies about how there's not correlation between price and quality (as perceived by somolias) when done double blind, right? :) | 20:16 |
| greg-g | or wine spectator rating and perceived quality | 20:17 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, yes I am. But I also know that price isn't just a product of ingredients | 20:17 |
| rick_h_ | and everyone behaves differently to different tastes | 20:17 |
| brousch | rick_h_: So you can get in making your knock-off wine packets early! | 20:17 |
| greg-g | right right, but there's a huge amount of market segmentation with wine | 20:17 |
| rick_h_ | but I'm not exicited about pouring an oz more 'sour' into my wine to reach that flavor I'm looking for | 20:17 |
| rick_h_ | sure thing | 20:17 |
| greg-g | :) | 20:18 |
| greg-g | anyway, I agree, i doubt this'll produce much of anything beyond the "I've already had 3 glasses of good stuff, I'll drink some of this now" | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | "oh noes, I'm out of pinot mix...better order more" | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not even sure if it'll do that | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | maybe I've gone wine snob. I love starting to get a feel for regions, wineries, traveling to them and experiencing. It's more than "less calories same great taste as regular coke" | 20:19 |
| greg-g | regions? | 20:20 |
| greg-g | you can tell regions? | 20:21 |
| greg-g | not just varietals/styles? | 20:21 |
| rick_h_ | well so here's the thing. I'll buy about anything out of the russian river valley region. Just because I've found I like a lot of wines from that region | 20:21 |
| greg-g | that's right near us! | 20:21 |
| rick_h_ | now, if you gave me a glass, and asked me to identify it? no way. | 20:21 |
| greg-g | gotcha | 20:22 |
| rick_h_ | maybe if it's something I've had before | 20:22 |
| rick_h_ | but now when I see a bottle from that region I go 'ooh, my fav' | 20:22 |
| rick_h_ | there's a bit of a connection | 20:22 |
| greg-g | do you use any of those wine rating/notes thingys? | 20:22 |
| rick_h_ | not at all | 20:22 |
| * greg-g nods | 20:22 | |
| greg-g | kinda surprised :) | 20:22 |
| rick_h_ | but I try out different things. I check the alcohol levels, grape types, region, etc | 20:22 |
| rick_h_ | and I've so that patz & hall is a great winery. I had a bottle of their stuff in SF at a restuarant. Then joined their wine club | 20:23 |
| rick_h_ | now when I drink a bottle of their stuff I'm biased. I like these people, I want to go to this winery. | 20:23 |
| greg-g | yeah | 20:23 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, proof of my snobbery exposed :) | 20:23 |
| greg-g | :) | 20:23 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not interested in keurig coffee in a cup and not interested in mixing pixie sticks together to make wine | 20:24 |
| greg-g | heh | 20:24 |
| brousch | OMG you're so old! | 20:26 |
| rick_h_ | I am? | 20:26 |
| rick_h_ | good, then get off my lawn! | 20:26 |
| brousch | You probably shape wood with a chisel and write code with vim too! | 20:26 |
| rick_h_ | and keep away from my wine! | 20:26 |
| rick_h_ | lamo | 20:26 |
| rick_h_ | lmao that is...see I'm so old I went lamo | 20:26 |
| mathomastech | Anyone here use Dropbox on an Arch install? | 20:35 |
| rick_h_ | mathomastech: I have, I think waf might. | 20:37 |
| mathomastech | I've got dropbox and nautilus-dropbox installed from AUR. It shows up in my application launcher and I can start the service using dropboxd. When I run ps -A | grep drobox it also shows up as an active processes. However I am not getting any sort of prompt asking for login info, and I am not seeing a dropbox folder in my home/user directory. | 20:39 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, I run it with sudo dropbox start -i | 20:40 |
| rick_h_ | I think that brings up the download/install UI | 20:40 |
| rick_h_ | then I have to move it off of root | 20:40 |
| mathomastech | rick_h_: It just hangs when I run that command. No indication it is launching the service | 20:45 |
| cmaloney | I don't have a problem with Keurig. I know it's not a great cup of coffee but it's damned convenient | 21:05 |
| cmaloney | that said, I'm not really into "adult Kool-aid" | 21:06 |
| greg-g | I now do have a problem with Keurig | 21:10 |
| greg-g | they're going to add DRM to their machines so you can use third-party refillers | 21:10 |
| greg-g | DRM IN YOUR EFFING COFFEE, MAN | 21:10 |
| cmaloney | Right. And that will mean I'll never buy a Keurig machine again | 21:10 |
| cmaloney | Reminds me of the bullshit that Nintendo tried with the NES | 21:12 |
| cmaloney | it was stupid then and it's stupid now | 21:12 |
| greg-g | GAME GENIE! | 21:12 |
| greg-g | great case | 21:12 |
| cmaloney | if I have to root my coffee machine in order to make a cup of coffee there will be hell to pay | 21:12 |
| cmaloney | Do NOT fuck with my morning coffee. | 21:13 |
| mrgoodcat | haha | 21:13 |
| mrgoodcat | maybe it will run ios | 21:14 |
| mrgoodcat | and integrate with your ford fusion | 21:14 |
| mrgoodcat | as long as you have an iphone | 21:14 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Oh that's right: you're in MI at the moment aren't you? | 21:19 |
| greg-g | yeah | 21:21 |
| greg-g | Chelsea | 21:21 |
| cmaloney | man | 21:23 |
| cmaloney | so close and yet so far. | 21:23 |
| greg-g | I know :/ | 21:25 |
| wolfger | greg-g: Yeah, I just read about Keurig "2.0" using DRM. Almost makes me want to buy a Keurig now so I can get one without it. Almost. I'll stick with my old Mr. Coffee for large amounts and french press for single servings. | 22:48 |
| wolfger | But what's this about wine mix??? Ugh. | 22:49 |
| wolfger | I like my wine the old fashioned way... out of a box in the fridge. :-D | 22:50 |
| waf | mathomastech: try deleting the directory ~/.dropbox | 23:04 |
| waf | that will get rid of any local settings you have | 23:04 |
| waf | but then it might re-prompt for your auth details | 23:04 |
| cmaloney | http://amirunningxp.com/ | 23:23 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 23:26 |
| mathomastech | waf: Just deleted the folder and restarted the computer. No prompt for logging in, though dropbox does start on boot. | 23:47 |
| waf | mathomastech: try killing the process, deleting the directory, then starting it manually from the command line via 'dropboxd' | 23:50 |
| waf | if that doesn't work, i'd guess it's a bug with dropbox. what version are you running? | 23:51 |
| mathomastech | 2.6.13-1 http://aur.archinux.org/packages/dropbox/ | 23:51 |
| mathomastech | Ok, it recreated .dropbox and process in running but again no prompt. I might try completely removing dropbox and reinstalling it. | 23:52 |
| waf | i wouldn't expect that to fix anything, but i guess you can go for it. in errors in /tmp/ ? | 23:53 |
| waf | *any errors in /tmp/ | 23:53 |
| mathomastech | Nopem just an ssh and a systemd file. | 23:53 |
| mathomastech | Ahh, reading the comments on the package and looks like its a but that was present in 2.6.12-1 | 23:56 |
| mathomastech | bug* | 23:56 |
| mathomastech | Looks like the workaround is to download an old version, get logged in and synced, then install the new version on top of it. | 23:57 |
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