[00:00] <Minty__> has no one created a "listening" script to see when providers bring a new version out
[00:00] <Minty__> then i could handle it all manually
[00:00] <jhutchins> Minty__: The reasons they aren't are in the lists.
[00:00] <tejas> guess not eh
[00:00] <mnemon> Minty__: apt does exactly that.
[00:00] <usr13> Minty__: It's kind-of   official vs non-official
[00:01] <jhutchins> Minty__: Commercial services frequently have licensing issues for unofficial packages.  If they're not in the partner repos there's probably a good reason.
[00:01] <Minty__> shortcut for terminal i thought was ctrl + shift + t
[00:01] <Minty__> not working
[00:01] <mnemon> ctrl + alt +t
[00:01] <Minty__> ah thanks
[00:02] <usr13> Minty__: "Ubuntu features a comprehensive package management system for the installation, upgrade, configuration, and removal of software. In addition to providing access to an organized base of over 24,000 software packages for your Ubuntu computer, the package management facilities also feature dependency resolution capabilities and software update checking."  From:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/package-management.html
[00:02] <LucasReis> hey :p
[00:02] <mnemon> 'lo
[00:02] <Minty__> usr13: yet i cna't get chrome
[00:02] <usr13> Minty__: It's kind-of   official vs non-official
[00:02] <usr13> Minty__: You *can* get crhome
[00:02] <isthatme> ubuntu provides chromium, but not chrome
[00:02] <mnemon> Minty__: you can get chromium which is almost the same.
[00:02] <Minty__> i can login
[00:03] <Minty__> and sync etc.?
[00:03] <LucasReis> yeah, you can
[00:03] <usr13> Minty__: Or, better, you can instal chromium
[00:03] <isthatme> Minty__: yes, everything you can do in chrome
[00:03] <Minty__> usr13: why would i want to install chromium? isn't that an entire OS?
[00:03] <usr13> no
[00:03] <isthatme> Minty__: no, it's the open source build of chrome
[00:03] <usr13> !chromium | Minty__
[00:03] <usr13> !info chromium | Minty__
[00:03] <gamoholic> The difference between Chrome and Chromium is that Chrome includes some proprietary features such as a built-in PDF reader, but nothing too important
[00:03] <isthatme> there's Chrome OS and Chromium OS
[00:04] <Minty__> ok
[00:04] <Minty__> so i want chrome browser..
[00:04] <Minty__> chromium browser sounds great
[00:04] <Minty__> sudo apt-get install chromium gives error
[00:04] <isthatme> ooooor use firefox!
[00:04] <Minty__> isthatme: web developer, need to be able to test on all
[00:04] <isthatme> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:04] <isthatme> Minty__: :P, oh well, but my point still stand
[00:04] <Minty__> However the following packages replace it chromium-bsu: i386 chromium-bsu
[00:05] <isthatme> chromium-bsu is a game
[00:05] <Minty__> ah ok
[00:05] <isthatme> apt-cache search is a handy tool
[00:05] <usr13> !info chromium-browser | Minty__
[00:05] <Gotolei> hm, guess it's pretty one-track here
[00:05] <Minty__> so can someone help me find a reliable PPA for dropbox as a start off so i know what i'm looking for/?
[00:06] <usr13> !one | Minty__
[00:07] <Minty__> usr13: i pay for dropbox, leaving it isn't an option
[00:07] <Minty__> got about 40gb in there
[00:07] <LucasReis> sudo apt-get chromium-browser give me a error :/
[00:07] <Minty__> wow ubuntu workplace switcher is awesome
[00:07] <usr13> Minty__: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/nautilus-dropbox/
[00:07] <Minty__> shortcut key for that?
[00:07] <isthatme> forgot the install
[00:07] <LucasReis> Ohh, really
[00:07] <LucasReis> thanks
[00:08] <gamoholic> Minty__: ctrl + alt + arrow keys
[00:08] <Minty__> dheers
[00:08] <Minty__> cheers*
[00:08] <LucasReis> Where can I found a list with the commands for terminal?
[00:08] <Minty__> wow even the transition is awesome
[00:08] <Minty__> usr13: hang on, doesn't that mean it's available via apt-get?
[00:09] <usr13> Minty__: https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=linux
[00:09] <mnemon> https://www.dropbox.com/help/246/en
[00:09] <Minty__> usr13: yea i know the first link
[00:09] <Minty__> usr13: but you linked to nautilus-dropbox on the apps.ubuntu site, they're all available via apt-get aren't there?
[00:09] <usr13> Minty__: I don't use it.  How would I know?
[00:10] <usr13> Someone help this guy out, he's having dropbox withdrawal.
[00:10] <Minty__> usr13: i thought all things on apps.ubuntu.com were available through apt-get?
[00:10] <mnemon> LucasReis: http://ss64.com/bash/
[00:10] <Minty__> mnemon: think you may have been late joining a discussion about PPAs > providers
[00:10] <mnemon> Minty__: not really no ...
[00:11] <Minty__> what does this mean "To import our GPG keys into your apt repository, perform the following command from your terminal shel"
[00:11] <mnemon> Minty__: the packages are signed with public key crypto
[00:11] <LucasReis> Thanks, mnemon
[00:11] <usr13> Minty__: Means just what it says.
[00:12] <Minty__> not sure what that means
[00:12] <Minty__> what would be the advantage of doing as it says
[00:12] <mnemon> no errors when installing the packages
[00:12] <gamoholic> You have to do it otherwise it won't update
[00:12] <tejas> robby cannon da man
[00:12] <tejas> starcannon
[00:12] <Minty__> gamoholic: wait, so importing those keys will auto update it
[00:12] <tejas> anyone familiar with ralink chipsets?
[00:12] <tejas> in ubuntu
[00:12] <gamoholic> No
[00:12] <Minty__> how does the argument for PPAs come into that then?
[00:12] <Minty__> oh
[00:12] <Minty__> confused :|
[00:12] <gamoholic> It will allow you to update it
[00:13] <gamoholic> Just run the command :P
[00:13] <Minty__> gamoholic: is there a way of checking for the update?
[00:13] <Minty__> if one is required i mean
[00:13] <gamoholic> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:13] <usr13> Minty__: It is one of the disadvantages of doing the minimal install, (this stuff would have been done automagically if you had done full install).
[00:13] <Minty__> usr13: what would have?
[00:13] <Minty__> usr13: surely this is dropbox specific?
[00:13] <mnemon> usr13: don't confuse him! ;)
[00:14] <tejas> arent ralink 2800 chipsets with mac802 drivers supposed to be able to inject?
[00:14] <usr13> Minty__: Getting GPG signatures.
[00:14] <Minty__> gamoholic: can't i just chuck that in ubuntu's equivelant of a bash script and have it run every day?
[00:14] <usr13> mnemon: sorry....
[00:14] <gamoholic> Minty__: What?
[00:14] <gamoholic> Oh
[00:14] <Minty__> usr13: this is dropbox specific, surely nothing in the install stage would get me these "gpg signatures"
[00:14] <Ben64> ubuntu doesn't have bash scripts?
[00:14] <gamoholic> I believe you chose auto updates, so it should already be doing that
[00:14] <mnemon> Ben64: bash is the default shell in ubuntu.
[00:14] <Minty__> Ben64: no idea
[00:14] <Ben64> Minty__: why not do a normal install? seems better suited for you
[00:15] <Minty__> gamoholic: hang on... so when i said "adding that would auto update it" and you said "no", did you mean "yes"?
[00:15] <usr13> Minty__: All packages use gpg signatures
[00:15] <Minty__> Ben64: sigh... it's not accessible via apt-get
[00:15] <gamoholic> Sorry, I am confusing you. I really didn't mean to :)
[00:15] <mnemon> Ben64: don't confuse him, normal install does not install dropbox for you.
[00:15] <Ben64> Minty__: i mean install of ubuntu...
[00:16] <gamoholic> I would recommend using this for dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_1.6.0_amd64.deb
[00:16] <gamoholic> That should install dropbox and add the GPG keys for you
[00:16] <majod> why is steam in software center for $0? :/
[00:17] <m1sf1t> majod: it's free to install, you then pay for games
[00:17] <majod> but theres no install button, only "buy" button
[00:17] <mnemon> Minty__: apt repositories have .deb packages, the guide from dropbox site i linked tells you how to add their repository which will be used whenever you use apt(-get) in the future to update your system.
[00:17] <majod> i already have it from steam website, im just wondering why its like that in software center
[00:17] <m1sf1t> majod: i'd imagine that once you click it, you will be charged $0
[00:18] <majod> m1sf1t: yeah, but ubuntu one account is required
[00:18] <majod> thats not nice
[00:18] <Minty__> mnemon: ok but will it auto update?
[00:18] <m1sf1t> majod: haha yeah, i've literally just signed up in order to ask a question on the ubuntu forums
[00:18] <majod> lol
[00:18] <mnemon> Minty__: whenever you run updates with apt-get, yes ... or if you use the ubuntu autoupdater or whatever.
[00:19] <Gotolei> hm, guess it's off to askubuntu then
[00:19] <Gotolei> at least one person is getting help i guess, at the expense of everybody else
[00:19] <mnemon> Gotolei: what did you ask?
[00:19] <m1sf1t> majod: i don't think they'd spam you if you signed up
[00:20] <Gotolei> if there's a way to change system-wide horizontal scrolling speed
[00:20] <majod> m1sf1t: i know, but i just dont want to :)
[00:20] <Gotolei> it's about 1/3 the speed that vertical runs at, and google's been failing thus far
[00:20] <m1sf1t> majod: yeah, it is a pain
[00:20] <Minty__> i bypassed all the optional installs at os installation
[00:20] <Minty__> which ones would be helpful to me?
[00:20] <majod> Gotolei: you mean with mouse scrolling?
[00:21] <Minty__> is auto update enabled by default or do i need to *do* something
[00:21] <Gotolei> both mouse and touchpad
[00:21] <Gotolei> i have a mouse with one of those tilting scroll wheels
[00:21] <majod> :o
[00:23] <mnemon> Minty__: you need to manually update unless you use something like ubuntu auto updater(should be installed by default).
[00:24] <mnemon> Gotolei: you will probably need to dig into the window managers/X settings to change that ...
[00:24] <D-135> clear
[00:25] <Gotolei> mnemon: yeah i figured as such, but i haven't found anything relevant yet
[00:25] <majod> Gotolei: this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/285689/increase-mouse-wheel-scroll-speed
[00:25] <majod> im gonna try that too because its also too slow for me
[00:26] <Gotolei> hm, not sure if that works for horizontal scrolling too
[00:26] <Gotolei> skimming the readme
[00:26] <m1sf1t> Minty__: you could just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade just before you've finished using your computer, and leave it running. you will have to confirm a couple of things though
[00:26] <Gotolei> "only the 4th and 5th mouse buttons"
[00:26] <Minty__> m1sf1t: i want to enable that all the time
[00:26] <Minty__> m1sf1t: what do i need to download to do that
[00:27] <m1sf1t> Minty: either by setting up a crontab, or using the ubuntu software updater, like mnemon said
[00:27] <m1sf1t> Minty__: the ubuntu updater is definitely easier
[00:28] <Guest54656> mpohaz
[00:28] <mpohaz> wai djo
[00:28] <Minty__> m1sf1t: how do i use that
[00:29] <Minty__> m1sf1t: my whole point is i don't have that and i want to install it
[00:29] <gamoholic> Minty__: In Software and Updates open the Updates tab. Set the options that say "When there are updates" to "Download and install automatically"
[00:29] <Guest54656> on doit trouver un forum privé
[00:29] <m1sf1t> Minty__: errm, i've not really used it, but it occasionally just loads and offers to update, yours should doby default aswell
[00:29] <Minty__> gamoholic: where is "in software and updates"
[00:29] <gamoholic> Drop the "in"
[00:30] <usr13> Minty__: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo and/or: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193823/how-can-i-use-cron-apt-to-download-and-install-updates-between-midnight-and-5am
[00:31] <m1sf1t> Minty__: if you don't have it installed, which it should be :S try sudo apt-get install software-centre
[00:32] <usr13> Minty__: One thing you should do is check to see if your update manager is set to LTS or not.
[00:32] <tejas> helpz
[00:32] <usr13> Minty__: tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:32] <Minty__> m1sf1t: i have the software centre yea
[00:33] <m1sf1t> Minty__: ah, ok :)
[00:33] <Minty__> m1sf1t: but gamoholic said there was a tickbox, can't see it
[00:33] <gamoholic> I use Lubuntu, it is probably different for you
[00:33] <gamoholic> I haven't used Unity in many years
[00:33] <gamoholic> Never looked back :P
[00:34] <m1sf1t> Minty__: errm, let me see if i can find it
[00:35] <m1sf1t> Minty__: i am using KDE though, so just like gamoholic, it might be different
[00:35] <gamoholic> I believe the guide that usr13 posted should work
[00:36] <m1sf1t> Minty__: ok, do you have "Update Manager"?
[00:36] <Minty__> m1sf1t: i don't know
[00:36] <usr13> Minty__: tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:36] <m1sf1t> Minty__: do you use unity?
[00:37] <Minty__> m1sf1t: yes
[00:37] <m1sf1t> Minty__: type Update Manager in the search bar and see what you get
[00:38] <usr13> Minty__: Or just start typing, by the time you get to the u or the d or the a it will come up, hit Enter.
[00:38] <usr13> Minty__: Or just start typing, by the time you get to the p or the d or the a it will come up, hit Enter.
[00:39] <Minty__> oh yea i have that
[00:39] <Minty__> so when i download dropbox
[00:39] <usr13> We knew you would....
[00:39] <Minty__> do i need to include that second line of commands in order for it to be involved in the auto update process
[00:40] <usr13> What second line?
[00:41] <Minty__> usr13: $ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5044912E
[00:41] <Minty__> usr13: and i installed it through the software centre - is anything through there automatic updating?
[00:42] <usr13> Minty__: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo and/or: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193823/how-can-i-use-cron-apt-to-download-and-install-updates-between-midnight-and-5am
[00:43] <usr13> For auto-updates   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[00:43] <Minty__> ok thanks
[00:43] <usr13> YOu are welcome  ;)
[00:43] <m1sf1t> Minty__: gotta go, good luck :)
[00:44] <Minty__> m1dnight:  cheers
[00:45] <majod> is anyone here using krusader?
[00:46] <majod> or what is good total commander alternative?
[00:49] <usr13> majod: "total commander" ?    You mean mc?
[00:49] <usr13> !info mc | majod
[00:49] <majod> usr13: something with gui :)
[00:50] <mpohaz> sonink1
[00:50] <usr13> majod: Well, I don't know really....  theres' konqueror, nautilus, thunar .....???
[00:51] <majod> usr13: nope, those are something different...nevermind, i guess i stick with krusader
[00:54] <Minty__> Whenever i install anything, i keep getting "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[00:59] <usr13> Minty__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[01:00] <usr13> Minty__: Wait, do you have apt running?  (A package manager open?)
[01:00] <Minty__> usr13: "DbDriver "config": /var/cache/denconf.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:00] <usr13> yep
[01:00] <usr13> sure do...
[01:00] <Minty__> usr13: i'm just using it to install stuff
[01:00] <Minty__> what's gone wrong?
[01:00] <usr13> Nothing. That's normal.
[01:01] <Minty__> usr13: so are those installs failing? the programs look fine
[01:01] <Minty__> should i just ignore that error?
[01:01] <usr13> Minty__: What errors?
[01:01] <Minty__> the returned an error code (1) bit
[01:01] <belalobo> q
[01:02] <Minty__> just installed irssi
[01:02] <Minty__> and the last thing it says is "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[01:02] <usr13> Minty__: ps aux |grep apt
[01:03] <Minty__> yea it returned some text
[01:03] <usr13> Minty__:  Which means ________________ ?
[01:03] <Minty__> no idea
[01:04] <Minty__> root 28336 0.09 0.1 86416 10520 ? S 00:45 0:00 usr/bin/python/usr/share/apt-xapian-index/update-apt-xapian-index-dbus
[01:04] <Minty__> etc
[01:04] <usr13> Minty__: (It means that you have your package manager already doing stuff for you.  You must let it finish.  You don't start two instances of your package manager at once,.
[01:04] <Minty__> usr13: it;s the only thing i've got open
[01:04] <usr13> Minty__: You only have one terminal window open?
[01:05] <Minty__> yes
[01:05] <rww> update-apt-xapian-index-dbus isn't a package manager.
[01:05] <usr13> Minty__: Is the update-manager running?
[01:05] <Minty__> how do i check?
[01:05] <usr13> Minty__: Do this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:06] <usr13> Minty__: Tell me what it says.
[01:06] <Minty__> a LOT of text
[01:06] <Minty__> at the end, returned error code (1) again
[01:06] <sharon> can someone help with a printer question
[01:07] <Minty__> looks like steam hadn't finished installing
[01:07] <usr13> Minty__: and the last line probably says something like "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/"  ?  Right>?
[01:07] <gamoholic> sharon: Just ask :)
[01:07] <Minty__> no, it lists errors encoutered while processing
[01:07] <Minty__> and then like 20 lib<something> things
[01:07] <usr13> Minty__: who  #Tell me what that says.
[01:08] <Minty__> i'm typing on laptop
[01:08] <Minty__> need to open irssi on pc so i can copy and paste there
[01:08] <usr13> Oh ok.
[01:08] <usr13> Tell me who you are ....
[01:08] <Minty__> but basically, can you not have more than 1 terminal open once you do?
[01:08] <usr13> when you login.
[01:08] <Minty__> ok
[01:08] <usr13> Minty__: You can have as many as you want.
[01:09] <sharon> i am loading driver for canon mg2220 and has hit point of question with programs to load by terminal. don't know how to do that.
[01:09] <Minty__> so i can install several packages at once usr13 ?
[01:09] <gamoholic> Minty__: No
[01:09] <usr13> Minty__: YOu can install lots at once, but you have to do it all in one command.
[01:09] <gamoholic> Minty__: You can have many terminal windows open, but you can't run more than one instance of the package manager at once
[01:09] <Minty__> why not?
[01:09] <Minty__> it ought to be threaf safe
[01:09] <Minty__> thread*
[01:10] <usr13> Minty__: Here is the deal, you probably have apt running now and it is either installing packages, or waiting for you to ok the install of some packages and you need to either finish or wait until it finishes.
[01:10] <Minty__> yea it was waiting for some
[01:10] <Minty__> hopiug it's all fixed now
[01:10] <Minty__> i need that long command again what was it the && update one
[01:11] <CaptainTacoSauce> okay smart people, I've got an LSI MegaRaid on a new-to-me server, installed ubuntu server saucy on it (on the raid) but the megacli64 command refuses to see the adapter/controller
[01:11] <usr13> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:13] <junkanoo> test
[01:13] <usr13> junkanoo: Yes?
[01:14] <junkanoo> usr13, just testing... wasn't sure if i was msg registered
[01:14] <usr13> junkanoo: Can we help you?
[01:14] <sharon> the programs to load by terminal are - cngpij,cngpijmnt,cnijnetprn and cnijnpr
[01:15] <junkanoo> usr13, not right now... again just testing.  sorry for the clutter.
[01:15] <usr13> sharon: And ___________ ?  (What does that have to do with Ubuntu?)
[01:15] <usr13> !test | junkanoo
[01:16] <sharon> i am running ubuntu 12.04 lts and trying to get canon printer working
[01:16] <usr13> sharon: firefox localhost:631
[01:18] <mabo> NI HAOO
[01:18] <ridikulus_rat> my friend installed ubuntu 13.10 is his lenovo u310 laptop which already has win8.1 installed in uefi-gpt mode, but the generated grub (1.99 something ver) creates chainloader entries for bios windows, not uefi windows. I suspect this might be os-prober issue. Secure boot is enabled in his system
[01:18] <junkanoo> ok i got one:  Running 13.10 Ubuntu Gnome with a VirtualBox Win7 install... have the base OS on the left monitor, and the VM Win7 on the right monitor in full screen mode.  For some reason whenever I don't have any applicaitons open on the ubuntu side, after interacting with the win7 side, i can't invoke the gnome shell by moving my mouse to the top left of the screen.  the little 'waves' thing shows up, but the shell doesn't display
[01:18] <junkanoo> .  I have a similar problem when i go to lock the screen... i go to the menu then lock screen, and it says something about 'something blocking'
[01:19] <ridikulus_rat> any idea how to fix this, should he update the grub pkg in the iso prior to installing ubuntu to HDD, if so how to do that
[01:19] <junkanoo> if i open an application on the ubuntu side, then everything works fine... go back to the win7, interact, then back to UB and i have the problem again... like it's a mouse 'focus' issue
[01:19] <junkanoo> any ideas?
[01:20] <ulkesh> junkanoo: did you install the VirtualBox Addons into the Ubuntu VM?
[01:20] <junkanoo> ulkesh, yep
[01:20] <allan_> Hello, I have a problem, I have an All-One printer
[01:20] <junkanoo> ulkesh, problem only occurs when VM is in full screen mode
[01:20] <ulkesh> junkanoo: hmm, yeah i've seen fullscreen issues with many VM apps (parallels as well) with ubuntu
[01:21] <ulkesh> junkanoo: sorry i can't help any more than that simple question
[01:21] <junkanoo> ulkesh, np
[01:24] <adamcunnington> usr13: adam here on pc
[01:28] <adamcunnington> usr13: i keep getting this whenever i run the apt-get update command http://paste.ubuntu.com/7025102/
[01:30] <Ben64> adam_: its not sudo-apt-get, its sudo apt-get
[01:31] <Ben64> !ops | juuuu sending spam PMs
[01:32] <Minty__> Ben64: yea i typed it right after and i still get that output
[01:32] <Minty__> always ends in "returned an error code (1)"
[01:33] <Ben64> Minty__: are you adamcunnington ?
[01:33] <Minty__> Ben64: yea
[01:34] <Ben64> Minty__: looks like you already have something using the package system and thats why its failing
[01:34] <Minty__> weird
[01:34] <Minty__> i'll try rebooting
[01:35] <usr13> Minty__: No
[01:35] <usr13> just do apt-get -f install
[01:35] <Minty__> dropbox wouldn't complete installation without reboot
[01:35] <Minty__> so had to anyway
[01:35] <usr13> sudo apt-get -f install
[01:35] <usr13> Minty__: Oh ok.
[01:36] <Minty__> what's the quickest way to check if something installed
[01:36] <Minty__> something like irssi doesn't appear in the installed list in the software centre for examople
[01:36] <usr13> Minty__: When it boots back up do:  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:37] <usr13> Minty__: apt-get policy <package-name-here>   #To see if something is installed
[01:37] <Minty__> cheers
[01:37] <Minty__> wow that -f install command
[01:37] <Minty__> just set up like 20 things
[01:38] <pac1> dependencies
[01:38] <ridikulus_rat> unable to boot both ubuntu (after installation) and windows 8.1 in uefi secure boot enabled system, iso boot fine into the live env
[01:38] <Minty__> ah
[01:38] <Minty__> cool
[01:38] <usr13> Minty__: ls -tr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list   #Will show latest packages installed last.
[01:39] <usr13> (Shows them all but ordered latest last.)
[01:40] <Minty__> any web developers here?
[01:40] <Minty__> weird i installed nodejs but then npm wasn't part of it
[01:40] <Minty__> normally it sbips with it
[01:40] <Minty__> usr13: what should the output of apt-get policy nodejs be?
[01:40] <Minty__> E: Invalid operation policy
[01:41] <usr13> I ment apt-cache
[01:41] <Minty__> ah
[01:41] <usr13> apt-cache policy <package-name-here>
[01:44] <CarlFK> what is the apt command to show the description of a package ?
[01:44] <xyzaffa1r> I just made a fresh install of 14.04 and restarted and it won't boot, I have this error http://imgur.com/Yo6x60I so I believe my refresh rate is wrong
[01:44] <xyzaffa1r> way do
[01:44] <xyzaffa1r> wat
[01:44] <usr13> Minty__: Did you finish rebooting?
[01:45] <Minty__> usr13: yea going bed now though
[01:45] <Minty__> 1:45am and got work tomorrow ahhh
[01:45] <usr13> Minty__: sudo apt-get -f install  #?
[01:45] <Minty__> thanks so much for all your help
[01:45] <Minty__> i'll be back tomorrow evening!
[01:45] <usr13> Ok
[01:45] <Minty__> usr13: yea did that it finished a bunch of stuff
[01:45] <Minty__> thanks so much
[01:45] <Minty__> night all
[01:45] <pac1> night
[01:45] <usr13> Sleep tight, don't bite the bed bugs
[01:45] <Stanley00> !trusty | xyzaffa1r
[01:46] <xyzaffa1r> why does it matter
[01:47] <pac1> don't messages like that come from the monitor?
[01:47] <xyzaffa1r> yes
[01:47] <pac1> does the monitor have a way to adjust its resolution?
[01:47] <xyzaffa1r> is the refresh rate
[01:47] <pac1> and adjust refresh rate?
[01:47] <xyzaffa1r> I'll check
[01:48] <xyzaffa1r> nope
[01:48] <pac1> is it an old one?
[01:48] <xyzaffa1r> yes, but it's Also an old computer
[01:48] <xyzaffa1r> its lcd
[01:50] <pac1> There's no menu on the LCD?
[01:50] <pac1> unusual
[01:50] <pac1> what make and model?
[01:50] <xyzaffa1r> there is but it won't open
[01:51] <xyzaffa1r> it worked on the installer though
[01:51] <xyzaffa1r> maybe I can boot that and try
[01:52] <pac1> ok, you may have to fiddle with xconfig, altough that will be tough without a monitor....
[01:52] <pac1> try Alt F1 to get to a term window and turn off X
[01:52] <xyzaffa1r> will, I can do it from the installer
[01:53] <xyzaffa1r> BTW I tried that, didn't work
[01:53] <pac1> k
[01:53] <Stovetop> has anyone run the deja dup interface on a remote xserver?  it doesn't seem to work...
[01:53] <netcrash> Hello, I have a ubuntu server and it looks like the system goes to sleep after some time because it stops responding remotely, after I press a key on the local keyboard it starts working normaly. Any ideas?
[01:54] <pac1> maybe take whatever xorg.conf the installer has and copy?
[01:55] <pac1> or is xorg.conf even supported these days?
[01:55] <xyzaffa1r> no idea
[01:55] <pac1> been a while since I've struggled with X
[01:55] <xyzaffa1r> Havent used Ubuntu for a while
[01:58] <xyzaffa1r> the refresh rate of the monitor is 60 but I don't think the comp can do that, and I don't see it in the menu
[01:58] <usr13> pac1: Sure xorg.conf is supported, (what ever that means...:)
[01:58] <pac1> yeah. just reading about it.
[01:58] <pac1> mostly not needed these days, but still there if you need it.
[01:58] <usr13> pac1: What do you need to do?
[01:58] <pac1> not me xyzaffalr
[01:58] <usr13> Oh ok
[01:59] <usr13> netcrash: What stops, apache?
[01:59] <usr13> netcrash: What server(s) stop?
[02:00] <usr13> netcrash: ssh?
[02:00] <xyzaffa1r> well, I think I can handle it now thank you
[02:05] <netcrash> usr13: machine stops responding to ssh and every thing
[02:05] <netcrash> *everything
[02:07] <usr13> netcrash: Was this machine built as a server originally?  Or was it converted from Desktop to server?
[02:08] <usr13> netcrash: Have you checked the power management options in the BIOS?
[02:09] <usr13> netcrash: Do you have a GUI running on it?
[02:10] <netcrash> xrdp
[02:10] <netcrash> usr13: xrdp
[02:10] <netcrash> usr13: not checked the bios options
[02:20] <CarlFK> sudo apt-get upgrade dvswitch;  The following packages have been kept back:    dvswitch - how do I find out why it is held back?
[02:25] <jesoners> ,
[02:26] <shreezbot> I'm having an issue with configuring /etc/fstab to mount a network share...  The files are accesible from anywhere on my network, but for some reason, when I do a "mount -a" it doesn't do the mount.  It doesn't give me an error (I even checked syslog), but I don't see the files that I should...
[02:27] <daniel> hola?
[02:41] <usr13> shreezbot: Still there?
[02:41] <shreezbot> Yes
[02:42] <shreezbot> I actually just figured it out
[02:42] <usr13> Are you sure there are files to see?
[02:42] <usr13> Oh, ok
[02:42] <shreezbot> usr13, I had way to many parms that I didn't need on the mount in fstab
[02:42] <jak2000> hi usr13 you worked with postfix?
[02:42] <usr13> Ok glad you figured it out.
[02:42] <shreezbot> usr13, All I needed was "//192.168.1.100/data1 /media/net1 rw  0  0" and I had a LOT more garbage than that...
[02:43] <usr13> Okeydokey...
[02:43] <axgrndr> hello. new to linux. anyone able to help? having problem getting flash to play in firefox. cant get google chrome to work as an alternative either. keeps crashing on launch. running ubutnu studio 12.04. have had no problems on other computer running mint.
[02:44] <usr13> axgrndr: What is "studio"?
[02:44] <usr13> !flashplayer | axgrndr
[02:45] <axgrndr> music production, photograpy, etc. editing version
[02:45] <axgrndr> have the restricted extras. shows installed but doesnt run
[02:47] <usr13> axgrndr: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[02:48] <axgrndr> did that. but still doesnt play flash.
[02:51] <usr13> axgrndr: What version of ubuntu do you have intslalled?
[02:52] <axgrndr> ubuntu studio 12.04
[02:52] <usr13> axgrndr: Fully updated?
[02:53] <shreezbot> Anyone got any idea how to figure out why samba is using tons of CPU???
[02:53] <axgrndr> yes, as far as i know. is basically fresh install as of last week. did the updates and added ones as they popped up.
[02:54] <LucasReis> Any translator online?
[02:54] <SchrodingersScat> LucasReis: maybe theres a channel for your language
[02:54] <usr13> LucasReis:  http://www.google.com/translate
[02:55] <LucasReis> I know there's a channel for BR people. I want to ask things about the Translation Team
[02:55] <LucasReis> :P
[02:56] <usr13> axgrndr: ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/  |pastebinit
[02:56] <usr13> axgrndr: .... and send us resulting URL
[02:58] <usr13> axgrndr: ls /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/
[02:58] <usr13> What does that say?   ^^^^^^^
[03:00] <usr13> axgrndr: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/  |pastebinit
[03:03] <axgrndr> how do i get vertical line before 'pastebinit'  ..  lol im missing it on my keyboard
[03:03] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> Flash Debugger isn't working on Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit, but it's working on Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit. I need to install Flash Debugger on Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit. Look at: https://gist.github.com/laszlomiklosik/2857310. And check the indicator of Debugger here: http://flashplayerversion.com.
[03:03] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> Maybe the problem in old version of nspluginwrapper. Its site: nspluginwrapper.org
[03:03] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> Help me, please!
[03:04] <usr13> axgrndr: do you have backsash?  \
[03:04] <axgrndr> yep
[03:04] <SchrodingersScat> axgrndr: uppercase it ;)
[03:04] <usr13> axgrndr: (It's usually uppercase \ )
[03:05] <axgrndr> gotcha.. im a newbie here. lol
[03:05] <usr13> axgrndr: /|\
[03:07] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> Who knows a solution of my problem?
[03:09] <axgrndr> k. think i finally got it. burped this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7025433/
[03:14] <axgrndr> maybe this has something to do with it? no directory? axgrndr@axgrndr-KM400-8235:~$ ls /usr/lib/abobe-flashplugin/
[03:14] <axgrndr> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/abobe-flashplugin/: No such file or directory
[03:16] <axgrndr> my bad .. typo
[03:18] <axgrndr> still no directory
[03:19] <Busybyeski> is there any way to ssh into multiple machines behind 1 router without switching default ports via upnp or anything?
[03:20] <Ubnoobtu> Yo
[03:20] <jamesd> Busybyeski: have the router forward ports as necessary  22 to hostA, 23 to hostB, 24 hostC  hosts don't need a special port... you can script it on your side.
[03:21] <Ubnoobtu> I've got a question: I'm using a laptop. I want to use an external wireless adapter, in unison with the built-in card. Is it possible?
[03:21] <usr13> Ubnoobtu: Sure.
[03:24] <usr13> axgrndr: apt-cache policy adobe-flashplugin
[03:24] <usr13> axgrndr: apt-cache policy adobe-flashplugin |pastebinit  #Send URL
[03:24] <Busybyeski> jamesd: won't the server also need to know ahead of time?
[03:24] <ertyu> hi everyone, I would like to replace my DNS for an alterinative, does anybody know a way to do it. all i could find was by doing it  through the network interface but individually per wireless connection, and what i would like it no matter what ISP i am using, allways use the specified DNS SERVEr. thanks!
[03:25] <usr13> ertyu: Do you use DHCP to connect?
[03:25] <ertyu> usr13: how do i find out?
[03:26] <usr13> ertyu: Check the network-manager
[03:26] <usr13> ertyu: Are you using nm-applet?
[03:26] <Ubnoobtu> I couldnt find any clear cut tutorials, could someone help me find one?
[03:26] <jamesd> Busybyeski: the destination doesn't need to know, firewall will do port forwarding as needed.
[03:26] <Ubnoobtu> I've got a question: I'm using a laptop. I want to use an external wireless adapter, in unison with the built-in card. Is it possible?
[03:26] <Ubnoobtu> (sorry)
[03:27] <usr13> ertyu: ps aux |grep nm-applet  ; ps aux |grep network-manager
[03:27] <axgrndr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7025491/
[03:28] <ertyu> usr13: yes, both are running
[03:28] <usr13> axgrndr: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[03:29] <usr13> ertyu: And you do not know if you use DHCP or static IP ?
[03:29] <axgrndr> re-install? ok. see if it will work this time. hang on
[03:29] <ertyu> usr13: got you. yes, it is using DHCP
[03:30] <usr13> axgrndr: you said that you had installed it before, (but apparently you didn't), so....
[03:31] <usr13> ertyu: Ok, then you need to change the nameserver that the router gives out, (because the DHCP server is giving the PCs on your network IP information, (which includes nameserver IP).
[03:31] <axgrndr> well it shows as 'active' on firefox add-ons.. but youre on to something because this is what i get .. Reading package lists... Done
[03:31] <axgrndr> Building dependency tree
[03:31] <axgrndr> Reading state information... Done
[03:31] <axgrndr> Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:31] <axgrndr> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:31] <axgrndr> is only available from another source
[03:31] <axgrndr> E: Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate
[03:32] <usr13> ertyu: So login to your router's web-based configuration menu, find the LAN's DHCP configuation and change the nameserver IP(s)
[03:32] <ertyu> usr13: so how do i do that?
[03:32] <path0gen> do you think that DHCP should be redesigned to support default nameserver IP of +2 from the network address, with +1 always being the gateway
[03:32] <ertyu> usr13: but i want to do it for any connection i use in the future
[03:32] <usr13> axgrndr: Oh yea, you have to enable a ppa or something... hold on.
[03:35] <qwebirc3236> hello
[03:36] <qwebirc3236> i am having trouble with my umbunto not loading because of a low disk space ive typed commands but it says it cant find the directory how do you delete spacific files in terminal
[03:37] <usr13> axgrndr: it's multiverse
[03:37] <usr13> axgrndr: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:37] <ertyu> qwebirc3236: rm command
[03:37] <mshaw> qwebirc3236: try more disk space
[03:37] <usr13> !info flashplugin-installer | axgrndr
[03:37] <qwebirc3236> 1 sec
[03:38] <ertyu> qwebirc3236: rm -fr
[03:38] <ertyu> but be careful
[03:38] <qwebirc3236> here is the file location i want to delete
[03:38] <usr13> ertyu: Edit /etc/resolv.conf change nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.x  to nameserver 8.8.8.8
[03:38] <usr13> ertyu: Or what ever you want it to be.
[03:39] <mshaw> qwebirc3236: or just buy more disk
[03:39] <usr13> ertyu: Actually, use the network-manager for that.
[03:39] <jak2000> hi usr13 you worked with postfix?
[03:39] <usr13> jak2000: no
[03:39] <mshaw> success is defs imminent
[03:40] <usr13> ertyu: Open the network-manager's configuration window and specify the nameserver of your choosing.
[03:40] <Sir_Leto> Anyone know how properly enter eufi boot options in bios? Im having a problem after using boot repair
[03:40] <ertyu> usr13: resolv.conf changes will be lost on reboot. thank you, but i think you don't know the answer to my question
[03:40] <usr13> ertyu: Open the network-manager's configuration window and specify the nameserver of your choosing.
[03:40] <usr13> ertyu: Open the network-manager's configuration window and specify the nameserver of your choosing.
[03:40] <qwebirc3236> this is what im typing to remove files "rm ~/home/l/downloads/blahblah.mkv" it tells me the it cant find the directory
[03:41] <ertyu> usr13: yes, that's the way i proposed initially . and that is not solving my problems. thanks anyways
[03:41] <mshaw> qwebirc3236: what happens when you spend the $10 for more disk space?
[03:41] <Ben64> qwebirc3236: the file is in /home/home/l/downloads/ ?
[03:41] <axgrndr> hmm. i get this.. flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[03:41] <axgrndr> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:41] <usr13> ertyu: Why not?
[03:41] <qwebirc3236> yes
[03:41] <ertyu> usr13: that doesn't solve the problem for future connections
[03:41] <Ben64> qwebirc3236: look again at the amount of homes you've got there
[03:41] <usr13> ertyu: Are on WiFi?
[03:42] <usr13> ertyu: Yes it does.
[03:42] <ertyu> usr13: plus i need to manually configure 50 connections
[03:42] <ertyu> usr13: i am on wifi
[03:42] <Ben64> qwebirc3236: ~/ = your home directory. ~/home = /home/<your username>/home/
[03:42] <usr13> ertyu: Well, actually, you have to change each one individually, yea that's right.
[03:43] <usr13> ertyu: Well, I suppose you could edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:43] <qwebirc3236> my user name is l
[03:43] <qwebirc3236> so i would type rm ~/l/downloads/blahblah.mkv
[03:43] <Sir_Leto> I used system refresh to fix some problems with windows, but that removed my multiboot options
[03:43] <Sir_Leto> I then used boot repair
[03:43] <Sir_Leto> And that brings grub to a rescue prompt
[03:44] <Sir_Leto> I'm guessing i need to change the eufi boot option to point to a new place.
[03:44] <Sir_Leto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7025200/
[03:44] <Beldar> qwebirc3236, remove the user and spell Downloads correctly
[03:44] <Sirleto> Dropped out.
[03:45] <qwebirc3236> rm ~/downloads/blahblah.mkv
[03:46] <Beldar> qwebirc3236, May just be the spelling.
[03:46] <Sirleto> Will the bios understand sdb1/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
[03:46] <Beldar> qwebirc3236, Downloads has a capital D this matters
[03:47] <Sirleto> Or do I just typ in the path without sda1?
[03:47] <qwebirc3236> im new to  linux
[03:49] <Ben64> qwebirc3236: why even use the terminal to delete then
[03:49] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> how i love you, guys. Please dont forget help me -_-
[03:49] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> if u can of course
[03:49] <qwebirc3236> ok rebooting
[03:50] <qwebirc3236> BRO YOU SAVED MY LIFE I LOVE YOU
[03:50] <qwebirc3236> AMAZING CHAT MUCH THANKS ILL SEND FREINDS DO YOU GUYS HAVE DONATIONS?
[03:50] <lanr3fn1_sn3m> xd
[03:51] <inashdeen> hi there, I am using acer aspire v5-471pg. previously was running ubuntu 13.10, i upgraded yesterday to 14.04 alpha through software update. Post updating and restart, my computer reported low graphic mode and ask for one time login session with low graphic. Pressing that, my computer only show blank screen. I still get the error after doing the following 1) Reinstall unity-greeter & reconfigure lightdm 2) reinstall nvidia-current
[03:51] <inashdeen> reinstall nvidia-331 and 304
[03:53] <Ben64> inashdeen: 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <inashdeen_> hi, I am using acer aspire v5-471pg with nvidia 710m. I used ubuntu 13.10 before upgrading to ubuntu 14.04 alpha using software update after update & restart, my computer give low graphic mode error and ask for one time login session low graphic, but that only give me blank screen. I failed to fix it even after doing the following a) reinstall unity greetr b) configure lightdm c) change to gdm d) reinstall nvidia-current e) insta
[03:56] <hummus3> deb http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com is down ??
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[03:57] <qwebirc3236> do this
[03:57] <qwebirc3236> sudo apt-get update
[03:57] <qwebirc3236> sudo apt-get -d install --reinstall gdm
[03:58] <qwebirc3236> sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm
[03:58] <qwebirc3236> sudo apt-get install gdm
[03:58] <qwebirc3236> sudo reboot
[03:58] <inashdeen_> qwebirc3236 : noted, will give the feedback once done
[03:59] <qwebirc3236> wait
[03:59] <qwebirc3236> its not a space issue right its a fresh umbuntu?
[04:00] <inashdeen_> qwebirc3236 : it is not a fresh ubuntu. upgrade from ubuntu 13.10 . but no it is not a space issue my computer has ample space
[04:00] <ertyu> usr13: do you think editing dhclient.conf will overwrite the DNS sever from the wifi connection?
[04:01] <qwebirc3236> ive read into this and alot of peope say this fixed the grpahical
[04:01] <qwebirc3236> id back any important files up threw terminal just incase
[04:03] <inashdeen_> qwebirc3236 : the command interface is on. doing what u have asked me to do. by the way, if this doesnt work, i think i will leave ubuntu. too tired of this continous bug :(
[04:03] <t2> abla
[04:04] <qwebirc3236> i found your fix here http://simpledeveloper.com/system-running-in-low-graphics-mode/ so you caqn read extra
[04:04] <qwebirc3236> dont leave umbuntu it beats the hell out of windows
[04:05] <qwebirc3236> the problem might be the version of umbuntu for the computer that is causing the graphical problems
[04:06] <rww> ubuntu **
[04:06] <qwebirc3236> very true
[04:07] <qwebirc3236> i cant type
[04:17] <ifeelstupid> I have an application that is supposed to be listening on all network interfaces.  When I telnet to the machine on the listening port on the internal interface, it connects just fine, but when I telnet on the VPN interface, it won't connect.  How can I ensure that the application is indeed listening on the correct interface?
[04:22] <k3pl3r16> hi everyone
[04:24] <ljv4> can anyone point me toward first steps on figuring out how my vnc server was most probably hacked in order to not make the same mistake twice?
[04:25] <cfhowlett> !server
[04:25] <cfhowlett> !vnc
[04:26] <ljv4> cfhowlett, i'm wondering why my vnc service (running on 12.04LTS) was open to the internet since i had no port forwarding and my strong preferenc is to reinstall 12.04LTS rather than Server Edition.
[04:27] <cfhowlett> ljv4, I suggest you ask in the server channel as they're likely to have more experience and certainly more knowledge than I do.
[04:27] <ljv4> is it #ubuntuserver or ##server?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[04:28] <ljv4> thanks!
[04:33] <Sunday> Question...how does one install GnuPG?
[04:34] <usr13> ljv4: What vnc server are you running?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> Sunday: This "gnupg - GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement" ??
[04:36] <ljv4> using 12.04LTS as server box with vino-serv (or whatever the default pre-installed package is)
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !info pgp
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !info gnupg
[04:38] <usr13> ljv4: Have *you* been using it?  (In other words, have you been accessing the vnc server?)
[04:39] <usr13> ljv4: And if so, did you have it set so that only certain IPs or users can access it?
[04:39] <Sunday> Bashing-om: Sorry I'm not that well versed in Linux, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I wasn't aware it was replacing a PGP. But yes it appears to be free.
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Sunday, sudo apt-get install gnupg     will install it
[04:41] <Sunday> Thank you cfhowlett, I'm always amazed at how simple the soulitions to my problems are, I've really enjoyed the Ubuntu OS since switching. It's just taking me a bit longer to learn some of the basics.
[04:41] <usr13> ljv4: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers  (see particularly vino section, about 1/4 of the way down the page)
[04:41] <ljv4> usr13: thanks, will check it out
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Sunday, well, we weren't born knowing windows.  Have no fear, you'll pick up most of what you need over time.
[04:41] <Sir_Leto> Anyone familiar with grub?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[04:42] <Bashing-om> Sunday: No problem, none of us were born knowing ! Takes time to learn a new operating system.
[04:43] <Sir_Leto> Im at a grub rescue prompt find out my system is located at (hd0,gpt6)
[04:43] <Sir_Leto> *i found out
[04:43] <Jebus> http://i.imgur.com/zd4V6gP.png how do i get rid of the internet symbol that is next to places
[04:43] <Sunday> cfhowlett, very true. Thank you two both cfhowlett and Bashing-om. I think I'm going to go and play around making secure keys and other fun things. Thanks!
[04:44] <ljv4> usr13, i had what i considered to be a mathematically foolproof password (120-bit random alphanumeric string) that was in the "Require the user to enter this password" box.
[04:44] <usr13> Jebus: Right-click on it and choose to remove
[04:45] <Jebus> it only has launch and properties, it shows up as a direct link to a youtube video
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|Jebus,
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Jebus, backtrack has its  own support channel and is NOT supported here
[04:46] <Jebus> it is ubuntu that is just my wallpaper because that was the firs linux distro
[04:46] <Beldar> Sir_Leto, Use this thread, it's the bootrepair developers, there are users focused on this. Post an up to date link to the bootinfo summary from the bootrepair app. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[04:46] <usr13> ljv4: I'm just not a big fan of running a vnc server over the internet, but if I did, I would take a couple other precautions as well.
[04:47] <Jebus> usr13 it only has launch and properties, it shows up as a direct link to a youtube video
[04:47] <usr13> ljv4: And if not being used, I'd un-install it, or only leave it installed when needed.
[04:48] <usr13> Jebus: If you right-click on it do you get an option to remove?
[04:49] <Jebus> usr13, no it only showed up with launch and properties
[04:49] <usr13> Jebus: Is that xubuntu?
[04:49] <Richard_X> Possible to run a desktop environment using OpenVZ?
[04:49] <Jebus> no i am running gnome classic on ubuntu 12.04
[04:50] <Jebus> usr13, no i am running gnome classic on ubuntu 12.04
[04:51] <ljv4> usr13, but running a vnc server behind a router with no port forwarding is different from running a vnc server over the internet, no? maybe i can set it up to "allow only local connections", although don't see that option in 12.04, and then SSH will be required to get into box and then run vnc?
[04:51] <SwitchingToUbunt> Hey guys.
[04:52] <Richard_X> Possible to run a desktop environment using OpenVZ?
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !patience|Richard_X,
[04:54] <usr13> Jebus: Haven't used classic gnome, but I think maybe System Tools -> Preferences -> somewhre -> somewhere-else  (I dono, I use xfce and it's a bit easier)....
[04:54] <LinuxNoob1207> Tbh I actually enjoy Unity oops
[04:55] <inashdeen_> qwebirc3236 : ok I am tired. i am done. thanks for your help anyway, but it doesnt work. I've given up
[04:55] <Norisys> hi alls i'm new on the chat
[04:55] <Jebus> usr13 i went back to the normal look and it fixed it but i have yet to go back to gnome classic
[04:56] <usr13> Jebus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode
[04:57] <Bashing-om> Norisys: Hello, You are in a support channel, not a chat, Is there ubuntu support you require ?
[04:57] <Jebus> Thank you usr13 your are epic
[04:57] <Jebus> Thank you usr13 you are epic
[04:57] <usr13> Jebus: Xubuntu is just so much easier... I started using it a couple years ago and haven't been back.
[04:57] <Richard_X> Mm
[04:57] <Norisys> ok
[04:57] <Jebus> usr13, i might go to that one i have heard great thing about it
[04:58] <usr13> Google-foo rides again!!!
[04:58] <Jebus> bye
[04:58] <usr13> ttyl
[04:58] <LinuxNoob1207> What's the Ubuntu chat ?
[04:58] <LinuxNoob1207> Like, the irc channel
[04:58] <usr13> #ubuntu-offtopic
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[05:05] <Sir_Leto> Beldar I seem to have fixed it on my own, at least to the point of getting windows to boot
[05:05] <Beldar> Sir_Leto, Cool.
[05:05] <ytw> what was that?
[05:06] <ytw> those user* blahbish
[05:06] <Sir_Leto> And its's not using grub to select an OS, it's using whatever windows uses
[05:06] <cfhowlett> ytw, never mind, it's fixed.  what's your ubuntu issue?
[05:06] <Richard_X> Could I offer to pay someone to create an OpenVZ template of ubuntu for me, must be desktop environment
[05:07] <ytw> cfhowlett, actually I don't have a issue. Just reading chat and wondering thats all
[05:09] <usr13> !test | user6 user7
[05:09] <cfhowlett> Richard_X, for 12.04 ... http://openvz.livejournal.com/41500.html
[05:10] <Richard_X> yeah but thats just ubuntu itself
[05:10] <Richard_X> No desktop enviornment
[05:10] <cfhowlett> Richard_X, also see http://download.openvz.org/template/precreated/       search openvz + ubuntu + template
[05:10] <Richard_X> I have openvz ubuntu templates, every version
[05:11] <Richard_X> I've read articles on being able to set it up in OpenVZ, but I haven't been able to succeed
[05:11] <oz_> Hey, I need help in finding info on how to build a sever/client thin or fat for a cyber cafe
[05:11] <oz_> where can I find a stp by step guide?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Richard_X, openvz.org   perhaps the forums would be a better place to ask for support, I suspect.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !ltsp|oz_,
[05:15] <oz_> I saw the and the wikipedia one and I'll chck the other one. thanks
[05:16] <usr13> Richard_X: "OpenVZ is quite out-dated. Linux Container - LXC is the way to go if you just want to use isolated containers (OS Level virtualization), the container is in between chroot and a VM." From: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219109/how-do-you-install-openvz-in-ubuntu-12-04-64-bit
[05:17] <Richard_X> Yes but SolusVM doesn't support that
[05:17] <usr13> o
[05:18] <usr13> Richard_X: Well, it's bed-time for me.  Sorry...
[05:22] <oz_> Is there a documention on how to convert laptops onto cyber cafe with one of the being server and other being the clients?
[05:25] <astropirate> Hi guys
[05:25] <astropirate> Will this SSD work with my Ubuntu system? SAMSUNG 840 EVO
[05:27] <noideas> astropirate: it should
[05:28] <Beldar> astropirate, It's a hard drive not many wont work on any OS.
[05:28] <astropirate> noideas, I wouldn't need to do anything special?
[05:28] <noideas> astropirate: no
[05:28] <astropirate> What is this I am reading about enabling "TRIM"
[05:30] <noideas> astropirate: http://www.howtogeek.com/170752/htg-explains-should-you-use-an-ssd-optimization-utility/
[05:31] <noideas> astropirate: I haven't read the entire article...but this might help
[05:31] <astropirate> will read. thank you
[05:33] <Beldar> astropirate, I use this for optimization, lots of links many doing the same, there are a couple of variations. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[05:34] <astropirate> Beldar, thank you. will read that
[05:39] <ice9> why does Tor uses the conf file located in /usr/share/tor and not the one in the /etc?
[05:43] <neil2> I have two ubuntu server 12.04 via a KVM switch on one monitor ... my problem is that the left most character is missing on one ... is there a way to adjust the VGA parameters via the terminal?
[05:43] <felisfcatus> ice9: there a priority list. the highest in the list is the config file in your home. lowest is the confing in /etc
[05:44] <felisfcatus> ice9: try looking it up in the manual
[05:54] <Vlek> Can anyone tell me how to go about installing mono on a ubuntu server without a gui?
[05:54] <ice9> what's the default permission for this file: .gnupg/gpg.conf?
[05:55] <koksal> uyghur
[06:06] <jerivas1988> buenas
[06:08] <jerivas1988> prueba
[06:08] <jerivas1988> 123
[06:14] <jerivas1988> proeba
[06:14] <jerivas1988> prueba
[06:17] <somsip> !test | jerivas1988
[06:20] <pranav> how to run ubuntu dekstop manager from busybox ?
[06:26] <pranav> how to load ubuntu from busybox into my embedded system >
[06:32] <jerivas1988> prueba
[06:33] <PxlVision> ?
[06:35] <jerivas1988> ?
[06:44] <MarkDavies> Hi. Does somebody know how I can get rid of skype being run automatically after KDE starts? I've googled a bit and nothing seems to provide me with a decent solution.
[06:46] <raj_> "kernel: Cannot read proc file system: 1 - Operation not permitted. " getting these repeated messages  million times every minute in my syslog on 12.04 ubuntu VPS based on OpenVZ, anyone has any idea please   ???
[06:48] <depechemode> Hi guys, i need a gstreamer guru to help me stream an mpeg-ts file from an ubuntu server 12.04 to the network via udp multicasting
[06:49] <depechemode> Hi guys, i need a gstreamer guru to help me stream an mpeg-ts file from an ubuntu server 12.04 to the network via udp multicasting
[06:58] <TOVOT> good morningh from Italy
[06:58] <TOVOT> I need help
[06:59] <TOVOT> for Wacom tablet
[06:59] <TOVOT> on Ubuntu 13.10
[06:59] <TOVOT> can help me?
[07:01] <TOVOT> I need help-support, can help me in this chat?
[07:02] <TOVOT> Nothing help in this chat for me?
[07:07] <nikolam> OK. I think I understand now, what cron/updatedb/locate and find process are doing every day to my computer, mollesting HD every time I turn it on...
[07:07] <nikolam> find is searching and indexing BTRFS SNAPSHOT (subvolume)... :(
[07:08] <nikolam> E.G. some stupidity is embedded in indexing process, that does not recognize BTRFS snapshots...
[07:10] <nikolam> So every time, I make Snapshot subvolume of my working install, it wants to index it, Because stupiid BTRFS always enable snapshots (even r/w if not careful) by default in the ROOT of file system...
[07:10] <nikolam> And Find happily starts indexing it from the start...
[07:11] <nikolam> So my conclusion is, locate/updatedb/find in Ubuntu must be patched to reflect not to index snapshots of BTRFS volumes by default
[07:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:15] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[07:15] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:17] <nikolam> Or for updatedb/locate/find to be more smart and recognize dates in BTRFS snapshots, to use previous indexed data, to finish indexing of snapshots earlier (and/or using btrfs send data about changed blocks till snapshot to identify and index only changed files)
[07:21] <cr37> Hi everyone.  Does anyone know how to make bash autocomplete work the way it used to?  I just need it to complete filenames.  None of the other stuff.  Currently, filenames only complete when the autocomplete rules THINK its appropriate.  I'm running 13.10.
[07:25] <vadimkolchev> hi all. Is it safe to use ubuntu installer partitioning tool to shrink my partition to install ubuntu alongside win7 or I should better use gparted?
[07:25] <ytw> if your disk isn't GPT then you should be fine, vadimkolchev
[07:26] <vadimkolchev> ytw, sorry, not sure how to check it
[07:26] <ytw> is this laptop?
[07:26] <cornel_> hey! how come the ubuntu image for beaglebone black does not just flash onto the device like angstrom?
[07:26] <vadimkolchev> ytw, yes it is ASUS X75A laptop
[07:27] <ytw> vadimkolchev, you should be fine... only laptop like macbook pro or laptop with 2TB over harddrive require GPT. by default it's usually MBR. Installer is pretty nice
[07:28] <vadimkolchev> ytw, ok, thanks, will try it now. Will i need any fixes with loader or grub2 will see win7 installation ok? it is important for me to leave win7 in working condition
[07:29] <ytw> vadimkolchev, shouldn't have any issue. What year model do you have?
[07:30] <vadimkolchev> ytw, not sure about that. it is my work laptop, I didn't buy it, so cannot tell for sure
[07:30] <vadimkolchev> ytw, ok, will try to install it now
[07:31] <ytw> valdimkolchev, remember... google is your best friend :D there is a lot of tools to fix your bootloader or grub2 even if you mess up. Ubuntu installer is not bad and shouldn't mess up your computer
[07:31] <vadimkolchev> ytw, will come back after with the result, thanks a lot
[07:38] <raj_> "kernel: Cannot read proc file system: 1 - Operation not permitted. " getting these repeated messages  million times every minute in my syslog on 12.04 ubuntu VPS based on OpenVZ,
[07:38] <raj_> anyone has any idea please   ???
[07:42] <MarkMarkDavies> Heh, so this problem with skype wasn't really autostart. It is just that KDE saves the session state when finishing and restores it when run the next time
[07:44] <NewNowKnowHow> what is the recommended way of getting mouse buttons 4/5 working in 12.04LTS?
[07:46] <cyford> my  movies stop working on tv  when i maximize  1080 res      but works when i make smaller
[07:46] <cyford> with any  video player
[07:49] <cyford> when i reboot and play  it works
[07:51] <cr37> NewNowKnowHow, you need to add 'Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"' to your xorg.conf.  Assuming buttons 4 and 5 are for your scroll wheel.
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:56] <tdn> I have a few small programs/tools that I use on various Ubuntu or Debian based systems. Right now, I check out my repository on each host and copy/symlink files manually into /usr/local/bin. This is rather tedious work, so I am wondering, will it be better to create a .deb package called tdn-tools or something like that and set up an apt source for this? How much work would it be to set up something like that? Also, how do I approach such a task? Where to start?
[08:02] <jozefk> what's the idea behind having a new release every 6 months?
[08:03] <vadimkolchev> tried to install ubuntu alongside win7, but during installation the installer claims I have no other os on my laptop so I am quite sure that I will end up with unusable windows 7 which is not what I want. Where can the problem lie?
[08:03] <geirha> tdn: If you do create a deb, you don't necessarily need to have it in an apt repo, you could just install it with dpkg -i
[08:03] <llutz> jozefk: guys want newer stuff earlier than every 2-4 years from debian-stable
[08:04] <jozefk> aha ok I see. it's more stable to have it like that than to have a rolling distro. I got it
[08:05] <SonnyMore> Hello! Anyone can help me? Where can I download the drivers (video) for xubuntu?
[08:05] <cyford>   something breaks on my pc  with every update
[08:06] <jozefk> I tried 14.04 live. It looks amazing. At least I like it :)
[08:06] <cfhowlett> SonnyMore, sudo apt-get xubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:06] <jozefk> cyford, what do you mean?
[08:07] <SonnyMore> cfhowlett, thanks, but its possible that they originally installed?
[08:07] <agent_white> vadimkolchev: Is there free space on your drive?  If Windows is filling up the entire drive, it can have issues detecting it (you need to resize Windows first)
[08:07] <cfhowlett> SonnyMore, restricted extras are NOT installed by default.  these are the codecs for multimedia, not video drivers
[08:07] <agent_white> vadimkolchev: http://askubuntu.com/questions/319792/ubuntu-does-not-recognize-existing-windows-partitions-in-a-gpt-disk
[08:08] <cyford> update always messing something between wine, java  , openvpn       or  may of the other programs i have ...  i just want to disable updates all together
[08:08] <jozefk> ok :)
 thanks!
[08:09] <cyford> and  after i do update it always get sluggish and eventually  becomes un responsive if i dont reboot
[08:10] <cyford> think it has alot to do with my  video card though
[08:10] <cornel_> hey! how come the ubuntu image for beaglebone black does not just flash onto the device like angstrom?
[08:10] <cornel_> how do I get a ubuntu image from an SD card to the Beaglebone Black eMMC when booting from the SD card???
[08:11] <jozefk> cyford, do you want to say it's maybe better to do fresh install every time new release is out or you are talking about the regular updates every now and then?
[08:11] <Beldar> cornel_, This a phone and the touch image?
[08:12] <Richard_X> I'm having an issue
[08:12] <cyford> regual updates,   its asking me every week it seems
[08:12] <Richard_X> on my vps, I installed Gnome, connected to VNC just fine. but when I open firefox on it
[08:12] <Richard_X> it wont connect to any site
[08:12] <cornel_> Beldar: its a beaglebone image found here: http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/#precise
[08:13] <cyford> richard can u ping 8.8.8.8
[08:14] <cfhowlett> cornel_, install instructions are on the download page.  WHY it acts that way?  Ask beaglebone.  They developed it.
[08:15] <cornel_> cfhowlett: ok, how do you access the image found on a sd card in ubuntu? so if I want to extract a image from a sd card?
[08:15] <Richard_X> No I cannot cyford
[08:15] <cfhowlett> cornel_, mount the card
[08:15] <cfhowlett> !mount
[08:16] <cyford> you probably want to investigate your  ip and gateway
[08:17] <cornel_> cfhowlett: ok thanks, and then where do I find it?
[08:17] <Richard_X> whats the subnet for a /32
[08:17] <cfhowlett> cornel_, once mounted it should appear in the file manager
[08:17] <cyford> 0.0.0.x
[08:18] <cornel_> cfhowlett: im on terminal, so directory?
[08:18] <cyford> the full last octect
[08:18] <cyford> opps  i think thats 24
[08:18] <cfhowlett> cornel_, run the mount command on terminal
[08:18] <cfhowlett> cornel_, your device should appear
[08:19] <llutz> Richard_X: 255.255.255.255
[08:20] <llutz> Richard_X: point-to-point, no subnet
[08:20] <mello_> hi
[08:20] <mello_> i installed ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop but it wont find my wifi card
[08:20] <mello_> if i do lspci | grep Wireless is output is blank
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !wifi|mello_,
[08:22] <cyford> richard  example   192.168.1.0/24  = 192.1.1.0 -192.168.1.255
[08:23] <cyford> opps   192.168.1.0/24  = 192.168.1.0 -192.168.1.255
[08:23] <cristian_c> Another question:
[08:23] <llutz> Richard_X: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
[08:23] <cristian_c> How can I fill with one color a sheet in inkscape?
[08:23] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, ask the inkscape channel?
[08:24] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, I can try
[08:24] <cristian_c> this too
[08:25] <klloveall> Hey everyone, so I'm attempting to install ubuntu on a box and the install proceeds correctly and everything is fine except for when I go to restart it just sits there right after BIOS like it's loading. I've let it sit for like 5 minutes and nothing. Is there a way to boot from the flashdrive and see if it installed correctly?
[08:26] <cfhowlett> klloveall, restart, enter bios, select USB as first boot device
[08:26] <llutz> cristian_c: you mean "background-color" in file-Pagesettings?
[08:26] <klloveall> Yes, I did that, I meant what do I need to look for on the SSD to see if it installed correctly?
[08:28] <cristian_c> llutz, I think so
[08:30] <MarkMarkDavies> fetchmail keeps the passwords in unencrypted fashion. Is there a better alternative?
[08:34] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, ecryptfs is one option to encrypt them
[08:35] <MarkMarkDavies> iptable: you mean an encrypted file system, I suppose
[08:35] <Carmen_> I somebody here familiar with Python development? I'm running into a rather frustrating problem with regard to importing scripts.
[08:35] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, yes, in fuse. ecryptfs can encrypt one folder to another, so you can have semi-painless encryption. + add correct permissions. That's the only way.
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Carmen_: /join #python
[08:36] <Carmen_> Thanks. I'll have a look around.
[08:36] <marble_> i'm trying to install osmocomGMR, i'm getting an error running "make TARGET=uhd"
[08:36] <MarkMarkDavies> iptable: doesn't there exist a program being an alternative to fetchmail that does encryption on its own? I wouldn't like to shift to an encrypted file system just because of a single program.
[08:36] <marble_> http://pastebin.com/z1sZab2r
[08:37] <gordonjcp> MarkMarkDavies: what are you trying to achieve?
[08:37] <MarkMarkDavies> gordonjcp: configure mutt so I could send and retrieve e-mails.
[08:37] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, well, you don't need to shift to encrypted filesystem. you mount /dir1 to /dir2 using ecryptfs and whatever you put in dir2 appears encrypted in dir1. that's that.
[08:38] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, an alternative is called getmail, but I don't know what the features are. you will need to check.
[08:40] <richy70> film
[08:40] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, and I think I was thinking about encfs when I said ecryptfs actually. encfs does in-dir encryption without the need for separate encrypted volumes.
[08:41] <agent_white> JAY QUELLEN
[08:41] <MarkMarkDavies> iptable: OK, I've got it, but to be honest I can't understand why programs like fetchmail don't do it on their own
[08:41] <agent_white> WHEYR JAY QUELLEN ATY
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !english|agent_white,
[08:42] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, alternatively encrypt and store the file encrypted and create a script which on boot will create a small ramdisk and decrypt to it so that fetchmail can read it.
[08:42] <agent_white> cfhowlett: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw
[08:42] <agent_white> DAS BETTAH.
[08:42] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, there is no excuse, they should... but they don't. Anyways, that's all the options now.
[08:42] <MarkMarkDavies> iptable: on boot of the computer?
[08:42] <agent_white> MarkMarkDavies: Depends if you set it or not.
[08:42] <agent_white> Ohhhh
[08:43] <agent_white> Nevermind.
[08:43] <MarkMarkDavies> agent_white: If I set what?
[08:43] <agent_white> Didn't think there to be a dude named "iptable" in here.
[08:46] <saeth> hello - I have problem using xubuntu with kwin - everything works fine but I have only one workspace now and I have no idea how to set more. Default xubuntu dialog doesn't let me chose more than one.
[08:46] <cfhowlett> saeth, kwin is for kubuntu/kde  ...
[08:47] <saeth> I know but it looks and works really nice and I prefer it to compiz
[08:47] <cfhowlett> saeth, VW parts on a ford - good luck with that.
[08:48] <giorgioventuri> hi - could somebody please send me the settings for the canonical IRC? I can't connect
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[08:48] <cfhowlett> giorgioventuri, not sure canonical even has an irc channel
[08:49] <giorgioventuri> cfhowlett: i mean irc.canonical.com
[08:50] <cfhowlett> giorgioventuri, that server doesn't appear on my list
[08:55] <nc90> hi guys
[08:55] <saeth> hi
[08:57] <iptable> agent_white, what?
[08:57] <iptable> agent_white, there is. really. me.
[08:58] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, well, yes, like in rc.local or whichever way you want. I'm just giving you ideas you can work with if you want to encrypt those passwords. Getmail (as alternative) doesn't do encryption either?
[08:59] <MarkMarkDavies> iptable: I don't know yet, I've just started testing getmail, but for sure it's possible to keep the password in the unencrypted way. Later I will look if it's possible to enforce encryption...
[08:59] <bluenemo> hi guys. i'm trying to remaster ubuntu 12.04 to be touchscreen compatible (building a kiosk browser only thing). i want to hide the mouse cursor, if possible via bash script (as in preferably some x* command). unclutter is not what i want as it shows the mouse cursor when i touch the screen, and hides it 0 seconds after i release my finger; so no permanently hidden cursor :/
[08:59] <iptable> MarkMarkDavies, cool, have fun.
[08:59] <iptable> bluenemo, unclatter
[09:00] <iptable> bluenemo, I just sent this while still reading your text. nvmind :D
[09:00] <bluenemo> np ;
[09:00] <bluenemo> ;)
[09:00] <iptable> bluenemo, one way is to check how unclatter does it (downlaod source) and modify to hide forever
[09:01] <bluenemo> hm. was more like thinking empty pngs as theme.. cant find a tutorial for that and dunno where the files hide / how stuff works
[09:01] <bluenemo> also dont have to much time for it :/
[09:01] <agent_white> iptable: I know. I just thought he was speaking of "iptables", the command.
[09:01] <agent_white> ;)
[09:01] <bluenemo> as in 'show invisible' cursor
[09:01] <iptable> bluenemo, somewhere in the /usr/share clatter, possibly in theme(s) or pointers
[09:02] <iptable> agent_white, oh, ok.
[09:02] <agent_white> ;)
[09:05] <MarkMarkDavies> ok, at least this getmail works.
[09:06] <iptable> bluenemo, here is a tutorial on that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126491/how-do-i-change-the-cursor-and-its-size
[09:07] <majod> hi. i want to run krusader as admin but it says its missing "kdesu", how can i install it to ubuntu 12.04? thanks
[09:07] <bluenemo> ah neat. thank you iptable
[09:07] <pi___> hi
[09:19] <emirx> people... I've installed old ubuntu 10.10... is there any way that I can make it funcional ?
[09:19] <jozefk> :)
[09:19] <emirx> functional***
[09:19] <iptable> emirx, it is functional. not sure what your issue is.
[09:20] <emirx> can't install software !!!
[09:20] <cfhowlett> emirx, functional yes.  supported no.
[09:20] <iptable> emirx, yes, I can
[09:20] <cfhowlett> !eol|emirx,
[09:20] <cfhowlett> emirx, 10.10 is WAY past end of life.  time to install a supported ubuntu
[09:20] <iptable> emirx, it is no longer a supported OS, but repos still exist and you can still install software. did you upgrade first? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[09:21] <emirx> is there a way for me to install old gnome2 on new ubuntu ?
[09:21] <DJones> emirx: You can't install software because that release is end of life, you would need to install 12.04, 12.10 or 13.10 to be able to install software
[09:21] <iptable> emirx, Gnome2 is no longer supported eitrher. Why don't you use "Gnome Fallback" if you really want to?
[09:21] <DJones> !notunity | emirx
[09:21] <emirx> never heard of gnome fallback :)
[09:22] <iptable> emirx, now you have. Click on the small icon on the login window and choose your UI. You can choose Unity or install something else
[09:22] <iptable> emirx, the favourite by people who don't like unity is "Cinnamon". you add a repo, install cinnamon and enjoy.
[09:23] <emirx> which ubuntu is best for my office computer... it has pentium dual core, 2GB or Ram and some crapy graphic card
[09:23] <iptable> emirx, alternatively install "linux mint mate". Mate is a linux mint continuation of Gnome2 (a fork, they support it). Linux Mint is ubuntu with a different UI and has got really low requirements.
[09:23] <cfhowlett> emirx, !lubuntu is optimized for older/lower hardware like yours
[09:23] <emirx> aha
[09:23] <iptable> emirx, does your pentium support PAE?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[09:24] <emirx> have no idea :(
[09:24] <iptable> emirx, cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep -i pae
[09:24] <Nightwolf> hi, i installed ubuntu on a beagle board. now i get "plymouthd: ply-terminal.c: 611 ply_terminal_open: Assertion `terminal!= ((void *)0)' failed." on startup. ssh doesn't work and i get no shell with ctrl+alt+f1. i have access to the sd card with another computer, is there anything i can do except reinstalling everything? -.-
[09:25] <emirx> I did that cat* it listed lots of lines... that means it supports PAE ?
[09:25] <iptable> emirx, yes. you are lucky then. Ubuntu will still work on your aged CPU ;)
[09:26] <emirx> I now it will, I've installed 13.04 some days ago, but it had lots of bugs... computer was blocking and graphic card wasn't working very well
[09:26] <iptable> emirx, I would suggest you install "Linux Mint - Mate Edition", it's gnome2, has no HW requirements and comes with all the bells and whistles (unlike LXDE). It's ubuntu as well under the hood so you get all the goodies of ubuntu user.
[09:26] <iptable> emirx, what graphics card btw?
[09:27] <emirx> I'll install linux mint Mate... I think it's best solution for me now...
[09:27] <emirx> I don't know it's office computer, it came with it... never checked it :-\
[09:27] <iptable> emirx, if using nvidia GPU, once installed, go into Hardware Drivers (or restricted drivers, whatever they called it now), and install the proprietary nvidia driver to make it work well.
[09:28] <iptable> emirx, and of course, once you install it, first run upgrade, before installing anything else! Just like ubuntu. Otherwise, you may break the dependencies
[09:28] <emirx> yes I know about restricted drivers... I'm old with ubuntu, but I miss those days with gnome2, for me that's a gold age... this gnome-shell and unity is all crap
[09:28] <iptable> emirx, to check, just type in: lspci
[09:29] <iptable> emirx, it's not crap, it's aimed at other users than you and at different usage scenarios than yours. For your use, there is mint mate ;)
[09:29] <emirx> it's ATI radeon HD 2600 series
[09:29] <emirx> :-\
[09:29] <geirha> just install gnome-panel to get the gnome2 feeling
[09:29] <emirx> will do
[09:30] <emirx> thank you people... I'll do all this, will come back if something goes wrong :)
[09:30] <emirx> bye :)
[09:31] <iptable> geirha, I had a feeling that latest ubuntu will run slow on this old CPU and GPU. Even with gnome-panel, 3D is still required to render the menus. Hence "mint" proposal which is better-suited for old cars like his one.
[09:31] <Nightwolf> okay, seems like it had problems with my fstab
[09:31] <iptable> s/cars/computers ... where is my mind?
[09:32] <SrRaven-work> Hi, I am trying to install Testcube, they provide a .deb file. I entered the dpkg - i filename.deb but nothing else happened and now im stuck
[09:32] <geirha> iptable: Oh it even runs gnome-classic with compiz?
[09:34] <iptable> geirha, "mint mate" doesn't even use compiz by default. It's gnome2 fork with no GPU acceleration required. Uses metacity as well.
[09:34] <black0ut> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I installed Eclipse using the software center and I tried to install the Andoid SDK. It failed because it is missing file permissions. I could install it as root and also run it but not under my normal user
[09:34] <black0ut> am I doing something wrong or can I only develop andoid apps as root now?
[09:34] <iptable> geirha, the GUI is actually called "Mate". Gnome2 fork basically, supported by Mint community. The rest of the OS is Ubuntu.
[09:35] <iptable> black0ut, you are doing a lot wrong.
[09:35] <black0ut> :)
[09:35] <black0ut> could you give me a hint or two what I need to do to run it properly?
[09:35] <iptable> black0ut, Android SDK can (and should) be downloaded with it's Eclipse and everything else. The 2GB zip file contains everything you need, with preconfigured eclipse, the required SDKs, emulator, etc
[09:36] <black0ut> where can I find this complete package please?
[09:36] <iptable> black0ut, on android website
[09:37] <black0ut> ah, I got it, the bundle download
[09:37] <black0ut> ok
[09:37] <black0ut> thanks
[09:37] <iptable> black0ut, developer.android.com/sdk
[09:37] <pranav> how to create a adhoc n/w to connect a device using my ubnutu terminal ?
[09:37] <black0ut> but why do they offer a plugin then, if they know it will fail to install?
[09:37] <iptable> pranav, adhoc wifi or cabled?
[09:38] <iptable> black0ut, for other development purposes?
[09:38] <iptable> black0ut, and it doesn't fail. just requires a lot of knowledge to get running. not worth it.
[09:38] <pranav> iptable:wifi
[09:38] <cornel_> hey, is it true that say the g++ packacge on the opkg manager is smaller than the g++ package on apt-get ?
[09:38] <iptable> pranav, http://unixlab.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/setting-up-ad-hoc-wireless-network.html
[09:39] <iptable> pranav, you will need wpa supplicant and iwconfig packages as well to get that to run
[09:39] <pranav> iptable:i have both :)
[09:40] <pranav> iptable:can i connect to the same n/w in windows too ?
[09:40] <iptable> cornel_, depends on package? the actual binaries will be same size (or simlilar depending on compile parameters).
[09:40] <iptable> pranav, adhoc is between 2 machines only. if you want a proper network, that's another story.
[09:40] <black0ut> iptable: ok, thanks.
[09:41] <pranav> iptable:nah, lets say i run linux in 1, and create the n/w like you pointed out. and the 2nd is running windows. can i set my ip, subnet etc. to adhoc both ?
[09:41] <pranav> or it should be ubuntu only ?
[09:41] <iptable> pranav, yes. WiFi adhoc is a standard
[09:41] <iptable> pranav, it will work with MAC as well
[09:42] <pranav> iptable: how to get dynamic ip settings back using iwconfig
[09:42] <iptable> pranav, you cannot use dynamic IPs with adhoc.
[09:42] <pranav> iptable:actually, i am running busybox on linux kernel
[09:42] <cornel_> iptable: so is there a way to get the opkg packages on ubuntu?
[09:43] <iptable> cornel_, uhm, why?
[09:43] <pranav> iptable:i meant after i am done
[09:43] <iptable> pranav, just connect how you would normally to the desired network and network manager will configure it to dhcp
[09:43] <cornel_> iptable: im working on a beaglebone, with limited memory, and i think packages on angstrom were specifically designed to be minimal
[09:43] <q0> i have so many active sockets with path @/tmp/dbus-****  how do i get more info on these ?
[09:43] <iptable> pranav, it's not a "swtich" to move between DHCP and static. you configure it as and when needed.
[09:44] <iptable> cornel_, limited RAM/disk?
[09:44] <Jordan_U> iptable: pranav: You can certainly have a DHCP server on one end of an AD-hoc connection. That's what network-manager does by default for sharing internet connections to AD-hoc wifi.
[09:44] <cornel_> iptable: disk
[09:45] <iptable> cornel_, download source, compile it yourself with minimal settings if you really want to save 1MB
[09:45] <iptable> cornel_, although you will break a lot of stuff.
[09:45] <cornel_> iptable: ok thanks
[09:45] <petru> @find Kazdin
[09:45] <pranav> iptable, Jordan_U thanks guys
[09:46] <xdewqa> quit
[09:51] <mastersh1ke> hey guys
[09:51] <pranav> iptable:i can't find the network 'fermilevel' on the windows host
[09:51] <mastersh1ke> im having an issue with vsftpd and i have this error in my syslog for it:
[09:52] <mastersh1ke> Mar  3 04:34:17 roadhouse kernel: [129801.001742] vsftpd[5879]: segfault at 7f93791002df ip 00007f92787147b8 sp 00007fffe32ea6f0 error 6 in vsftpd[7f92786fc000+26000]
[09:52] <mastersh1ke> can anybody make some sense out of that?
[09:53] <iptable> pranav, you have to configure it as "adhoc". It's not advertised.
[09:53] <iptable> pranav, for more info check on how to connect to adhoc on windows. I wouldn't know that and have no windows to check.
[09:54] <iptable> mastersh1ke, your vsftpd has segfaulted. did you get it from the repos the normal way:?
[09:54] <JoAnneTagonism> Hi, all.  I just upgraded azureus via apt-get, and now it routinely gives me the "impossible to bind to a local socket" error.  When I try to load a torrent, it launches a new instance of vuze, instead of just passing the torrent to the old one.  I found some discussion of the same issue here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/20/%23ubuntu.html, but I'm unsure how to pass the -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to the applica
[09:54] <JoAnneTagonism> tion...or even if it works?
[09:55] <matthew1> iptable: yes, apt-get install
[09:56] <iptable> matthew1, segfaults on what? startup?
[09:57] <matthew1> iptable: yes
[09:57] <matthew1> iptable: upon its startup
[09:57] <iptable> matthew1, tried it with default vsftpd config?
[09:58] <matthew1> iptable: not yet but i lost the original .conf
[09:58] <iptable> matthew1, try that. default .conf
[09:58] <onlty> Oh noes
[09:58] <onlty> Trusty not supported :(
[09:59] <onlty> Looks like trusty is yet in preview
[09:59] <iptable> onlty, it will be in 1 month
[09:59] <onlty> yay
[09:59] <iptable> onlty, hence the version is 14.04 for Trusty. I.e. 2014-April
[09:59] <onlty> I am using trusty
[10:00] <iptable> same here
[10:00] <iptable> so?
[10:00] <cristian_c> !beta
[10:00] <iptable> yes, what the bot said. and do that DAILY! or you will fail to keep up
[10:01] <yp_cyprus> hi guys! which is the channel for greek speaking newbies?
[10:01] <kanthalaraghu> hello people.. Is 14.04 LTS lightweight ? compared to its previous version ?
[10:03] <Jordan_U> kanthalaraghu: 12.04 hasn't been released yet. Support and questions in #ubuntu+1.
[10:05] <matthew1> iptable: so i removed & reinstalled and now there's no segfault in my syslog for the current process id however my original problem is still here where vsftpd does not open the port for connections
[10:06] <black0ut> iptable: should I install java using sudo apt-get install or via the software center?
[10:06] <JoAnneTagonism> Does anyone know how to set the java.net.preferIPv4Stack to true, either for the application specifically or globally?
[10:06] <iptable> matthew1, well, you didn't say you had that problem. now configure it to listen on port. and configure it correctly so it doesn't segfault.
[10:06] <iptable> black0ut, whichever way you want
[10:07] <iptable> black0ut, for apt-get, install jdk and if you want firefox plugin for java, install icedtea.
[10:07] <JoAnneTagonism> It's a supposed workaround for this issue, but I don't know how to apply it...
[10:07] <black0ut> iptable: thanks
 I know that, what about the developer preview ?
[10:12] <JoAnneTagonism> ...I would ask on #java, but the channel seems to be invite-only.  Also, it was the apt-get upgrade to azureus that caused the problem, so I'm just hoping the java setting workaround will solve it.
[10:14] <JoAnneTagonism> Anyone?  Or can you direct me to where I should be asking this?
[10:18] <somsip> !register | JoAnneTagonism
[10:20] <pranav> how to install kubuntu desktop using busybox on an embedded system running linux kernel?
[10:22] <usaaabb> Hi , can i make my device using ubuntu
[10:23]  * JoAnneTagonism just registered.  Not sure if that was required.
[10:23] <usaaabb> Hi
[10:24] <JoAnneTagonism> So...does anyone know how to set the java.net.preferIPv4Stack to true, either for the application specifically or globally?
[10:24] <Ben64> JoAnneTagonism: #java probably requires registered nicks
[10:24] <JoAnneTagonism> Ah.
[10:24] <pranav> how to install ubuntu using busybox ?
[10:24] <Ben64> pranav: don't think you can
[10:25] <pranav> Ben64:i have a linux kernel running, and filesystem already
[10:25] <pranav> am i missing something here :|
[10:26] <Ben64> pranav: the way to install ubuntu is with the installer, a cd, dvd, or usb drive
[10:26] <cristian_c> Another question:
[10:27] <cristian_c> I installed qtconfig-qt4
[10:27] <cristian_c> I found that when I open the configuration tool of qt, I make a change to the font and save, the new value is written to Trolltech.conf
[10:27] <cristian_c> when I open 'Qt Configuration', the old settings always appear as if the GUI were to load the configuration from somewhere else, rather than recover from Trolltech.conf
[10:27] <pranav> Ben64:ok, i can access usb using busybox. what should be another process ?
[10:27] <cristian_c> How can I make sure that the Qt configuration tool applies the settings contained in that file?
[10:27] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:27] <Ben64> pranav: i don't think you're understanding. ubuntu is an operating system. you can't install it from busybox
[10:28] <Guest66034> im getting loged out to login screen, any way i can debug this?
[10:29] <Ben64> Guest66034: pastebin the contents of ~/.xsession-errors
[10:29] <onlty> pastebinit -i ~/.xsession-errors
[10:29] <majod> can someone help me how to change scrollbar width on a certain theme in ubuntu? im not using unity and i found the .css files in /usr/share/themes but editing it does nothing
[10:32]  * JoAnneTagonism sighs
[10:37] <JoAnneTagonism> so...can anyone suggest which file I need to edit where I can set java.net.preferIPv4Stack to true?  #java is, apparently, for developers only.  No tech support.
[10:39] <jnhghy> Hi, I'm using an os derivated from ubuntu (arctic squid - a proxy) and my modifications for the hosts file desn't get saved anybody any clue why? if I mcedit /etc/hosts It allows me to modify the file, if I close the file and reopen it it shows my modifications but after restart they are not there anymore....
[10:40] <llutz> cristian_c: you're fiddling with that qtconfig-issue since weeks now. have you ever asked the devs/maintainers about that?
[10:42] <cristian_c> llutz, qtconfig-qt4 devs?
[10:42] <llutz> cristian_c: the ones writing/developping that software, yes
[10:42] <Ben64> jnhghy: sorry, we can't support derivatives of ubuntu in here
[10:43] <jnhghy> Ben64: ok then it is ubuntu
[10:43] <Ben64> jnhghy: sorry, we don't play games here either
[10:43] <jotaj> Hi all, i have one answer about Ubuntu Mirror, can someone answer me?
[10:44] <cristian_c> llutz, Qt Configuration Version 4.8.1 Copyright (C) 2012 Nokia Corporation and/or its subsidiary(-ies).
[10:44] <cristian_c> mmmm
[10:44] <cristian_c> nokia?
[10:45] <zivjohn> nokia
[10:45] <jotaj> hi, there are supports here?
[10:45] <zivjohn> maybe
[10:46] <jotaj> i have answer about config with mirrors
[10:46] <cristian_c> llutz, I do not know who to write personally
[10:47] <fidel> jotaj: try to write your QUESTION and see if someone can help
[10:48] <jotaj> I need help with mirror config, i want to filter the image download (exclude betas etc), but i cant find some example in web
[10:50] <llutz> cristian_c: sorry got disconnected: qt4-config-> Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
[10:50] <llutz> cristian_c: or maybe contacs shown on http://qt-project.org/
[10:51] <kashinath> hi'
[10:52] <jotaj>  I need help with mirror config, i want to filter the image download (exclude betas etc), but i cant find some example in web
[10:54] <fidel> jotaj: lemme try to interpret: you want to run an ubuntu mirror - which hosts only some filtered archives? so in your case no betas?
[10:54] <cristian_c> llutz,  that page redirects to forums
[10:54] <cristian_c> llutz, I'll try to get more info
[10:54] <llutz> cristian_c: which might be more helpful than this channel
[10:57] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys I just created a user with the wrong home-dir and would like to set another one, what is the safest way to do it?
[10:58] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: man usermod (-d newhome)
[10:59] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you llutz
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !home|Wiz_KeeD,
[11:05] <vadimkolchev> Hi all, installed Ubuntu and my wireless car sees networks but won't connect to them
[11:05] <raju> could somebody help with monit ?
[11:07] <vadimkolchev> Can anybody help me with wireless?
[11:08] <AlanBell> !wifi | vadimkolchev
[11:09] <AlanBell> vadimkolchev: if you let us know the version of Ubuntu and details of the wifi card then someone might be able to give more specific help
[11:10] <AlanBell> vadimkolchev: for what its worth, that used to happen on one of my laptops, but doesn't in 13.10 and 14.04
[11:10] <vadimkolchev> Alan Bell, 13.10, not sure about the card model
[11:10] <OerHeks> vadimkolchev, pulling the ethernet cable out and trying again connecting to wireless helped for me
[11:11] <vadimkolchev> It is rt3290
[11:12] <opnchaudhary> Can anyone help me why I can't shutdown my laptop completely which is running Ubuntu 12.04.  I have to press the power button to shut it down.
[11:12] <opnchaudhary> Even reboot doesn't work
[11:13] <AlanBell> opnchaudhary: did that always happen or is it a problem that it has developed?
[11:15] <Yorrick> Hi there, I'm having issues with my Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS machine's file system (I presume it to be the FS at least). Anyone that could lend a hand in resolving this?
[11:16] <AlanBell> Yorrick: few more details would be good (no idea from that)
[11:16] <Yorrick> Well, I can browse the file system perfectly fine, from both my Windows machine (over the network) as well as from my Ubuntu machine itself
[11:16] <opnchaudhary> It always happens now
[11:16] <opnchaudhary> In the first install it worked fine
[11:17] <Yorrick> But I can't play any video files (.mp4, .vob, etc.) in any media player
[11:17] <cloneG> hello is there something I could do to fix this? : http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=67715
[11:17] <opnchaudhary> AlanBell after updates and other application installs , the problem developed. I am not sure which cause this problem
[11:17] <Yorrick> And I could view these files perfectly fine only just a couple of days ago.
[11:17] <AlanBell> bug 1049466 | vadimkolchev
[11:18] <AlanBell> vadimkolchev: seems to be a kernel issue, possibly fixed in the latest updates to 13.10, or perhaps will be fixed in 14.04
[11:18] <cfhowlett> Yorrick, get the restricted extras?
[11:19] <Yorrick> I just did cfhowlett, but it didn't change anything unfortunately
[11:19] <jatt> locale -a lists zh_CN.utf8 and zh_SG.utf8 how do I remove them?
[11:20] <AlanBell> opnchaudhary: you can look back in /var/log/dpkg.log to see what has recently been installed, and maybe remove anything that is a background service recently added to see if you can find what is blocking it, otherwise there are some ACPI settings to tweak
[11:20] <AlanBell> opnchaudhary: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125844/shutdown-does-not-power-off-computer has some more details and suggestions
[11:21] <cloneG> the point is I own an old web cam creative live! VF0220 and cheese shows a poor dark bluish image while the webcam led remains red...I thought it could be drivers and I run the sytem test with this result: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=67715
[11:21] <Yorrick> Also, cfhowlett , if the restricted extra's were the reason why I could play these video files anymore, it wouldn't really make a lot of sense as I could open them just fine a couple of days go & I haven't hd any updates or changes to the system since
[11:21] <cfhowlett> Yorrick, you're right.  NO video files?  Not even .ogg?
[11:22] <AlanBell> Yorrick: do you get any error messages?
[11:22] <Yorrick> I don't have .ogg files on it for testing, so I can't answer that, although I've tried .mkv, .vob, .mp4
[11:22] <cloneG> I even downloaded a driver called gspcav1-2007 but I am fearsome to install it because it is an old one and it might build incompatible binaries... any help?
[11:22] <AlanBell> Yorrick: is it files over 2GB in size or even small files?
[11:22] <Yorrick> 1 sec AlanBell , I had one but I can't remember exactly what it was, I'll check what it was
[11:23] <cfhowlett> Yorrick, install vlc player - codecs are integrated.  if still no joy, check your gpu card.
[11:24] <Yorrick> Right, a .avi file in VLC gives me an error saying something about an input-output error. It's about 730mb in size
[11:24] <Yorrick> and cfhowlett, I can't watch it on any machine, not even on my gaming PC (which has a GPU that is far beyond what is necessary to view video)
[11:25] <Yorrick> Note though, I'm trying to watch it over my LAN, streaming the video from my Ubuntu machine's file system to my windows machines
[11:25] <Yorrick> But on my Ubuntu machine itself, it's not playing the files either
[11:27] <AlanBell> Yorrick: that could be flaky stuff going on, yes if the disk can't keep up with the video and is throwing IO errors. Could be hardware even.
[11:28] <Yorrick> The HDD on which the video files are located is a brand-new 4TB 7200RPM disk, so I doubt it's my HDD that's causing the problem
[11:29] <Ben64> Yorrick: does dmesg have any io errors
[11:29] <Yorrick> Although, when I tried watching the .avi earlier on my Windows machine, it threw me an error saying "Bad File Descriptor" (in VLC)
[11:29] <Yorrick> & No idea Ben64 , I'll have a quick look
[11:31] <Yorrick> Hmm, I probably should've checked for dmesg errors when I first saw I had this problem
[11:31] <cloneG> my bad! I post wrong test report secction!! http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=67716
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Yorrick try youtube/vimeo to test the gpu failure theory
[11:31] <cloneG> Installing that package now see what happens
[11:31] <Yorrick> my terminal's pretty spammed with unhandled error codes & I/O errors
[11:32] <Yorrick> Just checked on Youtube, videos playing just fine
[11:35] <majod> when i have opened programs and i click log out to change user, ubuntu asks them to stop and waits, or just kill them all?
[11:36] <opnchaudhary> Thanks AlanBell it worked. It works only after a reboot is done  after the changes.
[11:37] <Yorrick> In case anyone wants to have a look at what dmesg threw at me, feel free to dig through: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7027002/ I don't know enough about this stuff to make a whole lot of sense of it :)
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Yorrick, only time I've seen that stuff is on failing hardware ...
[11:38] <AlanBell> Yorrick: is it one big partition or two 2G partitions?
[11:39] <Yorrick> I'm not entirely sure AlanBell , I'll have a quick look as I can't remember
[11:39] <Yorrick> & cfhowlett , I'm not saying it's not possible, but it'd be a surprise, and if it is a hardware failure, what hardware is failing?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Yorrick, hdd/ssd
[11:40] <AlanBell> Yorrick: there is something odd about things over 3G, it might be the hdd or the controller or something else
[11:40] <AlanBell> of course I mean 3TB rather than G
[11:42] <Yorrick> Yeah, I figured AlanBell , although either I'm looking at the wrong thing, or I truncated the 4TB disk and the seperate disk (for OS etc) into 1 big 5.5TB partition, not sure if I'm right though.
[11:42] <AlanBell> Yorrick: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html my guess is that it is duff hardware (not unheard of for new drives to be faily) or it is a 4TB partition and something involved only supports 2TB partitions
[11:43] <Yorrick> & cfhowlett , that'd be the biggest surprise, if it was my GPU or something like that, I'd be a lot less surprised
[11:43] <AlanBell> Yorrick: I had some fun and games with a 3TB drive a while ago, worked on Ubuntu but was dodgy on a raspberry pi, had to repartition it to less than 2TB units
[11:43] <Yorrick> Well Alan, I'm not really an Ubuntu expert, so I had my dad set up the system, so I'd have to ask him exactly what he did & how he did it
[11:45] <Yorrick> AlanBell, I remember having issues with creating the drive at first, so I'm not really surprised by the fact that anything over 2TB is dodgy, but then it doesn't really make sense that it's worked for a few months & now, all of the sudden, it doesn't work anymore
[11:49] <Ben64> Yorrick: thats really bad. bad hard drive or bad cable or bad motherboard or bad psu or bad something else
[11:50] <Yorrick> Ben64 , is there any way to pinpoint what is failing? Or will I simply be forced to replace parts & see which ones I need to permanently replace?
[11:50] <iptable> Yorrick, replace one part at a time
[11:50] <iptable> Yorrick, cable is cheap, HDD can be tested in another MB and MB can be tested with another HDD.
[11:51] <iptable> Yorrick, if things stop working just like that, there are only 2 possibilities: you are running Windows for more than 3 days without a reinstall or your hardware has failed ;)
[11:51] <majod> isnt there some SMART utility for ubuntu?
[11:51] <Pawnerd> what is the best server you can get for 16 euros per month at www.kimsufi.com?
[11:52] <Ben64> majod: yes
[11:52] <Yorrick> Well yes, iptable, I have everything I need to test & see what I need to replace, I honestly just don't feel like replacing stuff not knowing if I'll find the issue or not :P
[11:52] <iptable> majod, there is, smartctl. but if it says "drive ok", it doesn't mean the drive is ok... that's the SMART issue :/
[11:52] <Yorrick> & Hey, my gaming machine has been running the same Windows 7 without updates for just over a year now without any issues ;)
[11:52] <majod> oh :(
[11:53] <iptable> Yorrick, I wouldn't admit that here :D
[11:53] <Ben64> Yorrick: by all means, if you want to possibly break your drive, continue doing nothing
[11:54] <Yorrick> Admit what, iptable? that I have a machine running windows without issues, or that I don't feel like replacing parts right now? :D
[11:54] <iptable> Yorrick, both :D
[11:54] <rannonga> poor windows
[11:54] <Yorrick> & Ben64, I'll definately do something about it, I was just hoping for there to be a more effortless way to pinpoint the issue :) I don't mind having to replace parts, I'd just rather not do it if I can find the issue through software ;)
[11:55] <Ben64> its probably a bad cable. start there
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Yorrick: your drive is failing
[11:56] <Yorrick> Yeah I will Ben, I have one ready to go next to the machine atm, I can't replace things right now as I don't hve time right now
[11:57] <iptable> the sky is falling!
[11:57] <gordonjcp> Yorrick: those are error messages from the drive itself, and they indicate that it is about to fail completely
[11:58] <Yorrick> gordonjcp, if that's the case, is there anything I can do to fix the issue without losing data or having to replace the drive? As I currently don't have the room I'd need to back all my files up on another drive & the drive that's failing is a pretty damn expensive one
[11:59] <Ben64> gordonjcp: or the cable is bad
[11:59] <developme> How could i copy the last N lines of a file in another?
[12:00] <geirha> tail -n 10 file >> otherfile
[12:03] <vlt> Hello. I installed the current Ubuntu 13.10.  I have a printer connected via USB and CUPS works fine.  But I get "no scanners found" when I try to scan something.  It's a Samsung SCX-3405 and the pkg printer-driver-splix is installed.  Any idea how to get SANE working?
[12:04] <AlanBell> Yorrick: well it kind of does make sense, it is the type of problem that is totally fine, until it gets to a point where half the file is on the other side of the disk (and files can be split up with the first part on one bit and other bits scattered elsewhere
[12:04] <AlanBell> Yorrick: it might well be something else, but I don't think I can rule out the >2TB oddness yet :)
[12:04] <Yorrick> Yeah I know how fragmentation works Alan ;) I'm not completely clueless, just a little when it comes to Ubuntu :P
[12:05] <Yorrick> And if it is the disk, I'll re-format it & re-partition it into <2TB segments, to see if that still gives issues
[12:05] <developme> Ty geirha
[12:06] <AlanBell> Yorrick: worth a try, but also bear in mind that it could be failing at the hardware level and one day might just stop, so don't put thousands of bitcoin on it :)
[12:06] <matthias_> how can i start simon speech only in cli mode?
[12:06] <Ben64> its not a software problem Yorrick
[12:06] <Ben64> its hardware. look at the hardware errors in dmesg. you can't fix it with software. its hardware. swap out the cable already.
[12:07] <Yorrick> I have no bitcoin to spend so that'd be hard to do AlanBell :D and Ben64, I will, once I get home again, I'm not home at this point so I'll have to wait for about another 2 hours before I can swap the cables
[12:12] <fjs> jjj
[12:12] <fjs> njkkk
[12:14] <fjs> 333ddf
[12:14] <majod> yes
[12:19] <voog> o
[12:26] <vadimkolchev_> hi all. I need help with making my usb modem to work in ubuntu 13.10. Could any1 assist me a little because I've never done it before
[12:27] <subz3r0> vadimkolchev_: just ask your question or tell us where you stuck at
[12:28] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, I just plugged it in and set up a broadband connection, chose my provider and finished set up but nothing works
[12:28] <subz3r0> and do not forget to give the correct informations like which type of usb modem, which manufactuer etc..
[12:28] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, it is huawei modem 12d1:14fe
[12:29] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, under network connections i now see broadband connection but it is greyed out and when I tap on the connection it tries to connect for a long time and then refuses
[12:29] <subz3r0> its a umts modem, right?
[12:29] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, sorry, not sure about that
[12:30] <subz3r0> well. do you need a simcard for it? or can you plug it into your cable device?
[12:30] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, under network connections it gives me - not registered and fails to work
[12:30] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, yes, I need a simcard
[12:30] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, it is already in
[12:31] <subz3r0> vadimkolchev_: please pastebin the output of: lsusb
[12:32] <subz3r0> @pastebin.com
[12:32] <subz3r0> and show me the output
[12:32] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, http://pastebin.com/xaDxZV4p
[12:34] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, strange, disconnected it and connected again - now there is nothing under network at all relating to broadband connection
[12:34] <subz3r0> vadimkolchev_: are the modeswitch tools installed?
[12:34] <subz3r0> usb-modeswitch and usb-modeswitch-data?
[12:35] <vadimkolchev_> subz3r0, yes, I checked it
[12:35] <subz3r0> what version?
[12:36] <vadimkolchev> subz3r0, hmm, sorry for troubling you, after reboot it worked, dunno why
[12:36] <vadimkolchev> subz3r0, thanks for your help
[12:36] <subz3r0> ;)
[12:36] <subz3r0> youre welcome
[12:42] <emirx> hello guys again... installed Linux mint Mate ... works like charm :) it really is gnome 2
[12:42] <emirx> thanks for advice just came to say that :) <3 you all :)
[12:44] <mino_> السلام عليكم
[12:44] <mino_> هل من احد يتكلم عربي
[12:45] <mino_> اريد  بعض المساعدة جزاكم الله كل خير
[12:45] <subz3r0> !AR > mino_
[12:45] <subz3r0> !AR | mino_
[12:45] <subz3r0> oops :D
[12:45] <subz3r0> !EG | mino_
[12:45] <subz3r0> what the heck is arabic? :D
[12:46] <mino> wtf
[12:46] <somsip> !farsi | mino
[12:46] <fidel> mino: channel language is english
[12:46] <fidel> too late ;)
[12:46] <mino> fidel: I'm not that mino_
[12:46] <fidel> sorry ;)
[12:48] <jack> the following schema is missing:
[12:48] <Walex2> df
[12:48] <jack> com.canonical.notify-osd
[12:48] <jack> In order to work properly, Unity Tweak Tool recommends you install the necessary packages
[12:49] <jack> shrug?
[12:49] <t4nk982> hi folks
[12:51] <majod> x
[12:54] <t4nk982> does it have effects, when in the passwd file a none existing Group-id is used? (sry about my english)
[12:54] <jenenliu> hi guys, how can I remove a package, let's say, ruby, if I am install it through source file
[12:55] <jack> jenenliu, dpkg -r pkgname
[12:55] <Walex2> jenenliu: if you just did something like 'make install' you have to figure it out yourself.
[12:55] <jenenliu> jack: it doesn't works
[12:55] <jenenliu> Walex2: how
[12:55] <matematikaadit> jenenliu: usually it's 'make uninstall'
[12:55] <matematikaadit> jenenliu: or 'make remove'
[12:56] <Walex2> jenenliu: people who do 'make install' are very advanced developers who understand very well how build systems and application build systems work...
[12:56] <jpds> Walex2: Not necessarily.
[12:56] <[111onno111]> onno
[12:56] <Walex2> jpds: too bad :-)
[12:56] <[111onno111]> nnoo
[12:56] <jpds> [111onno111]: Hi.
[12:56] <[111onno111]> hello
[12:57] <jpds> Walex2: Most of the time, they're people following an online guide.
[12:57] <matematikaadit> I'm uninstalling emacs24, but apt-get insist on installing emacs23. How I prevent it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7027326/
[12:57] <Walex2> jpds: teaches them to follow online guides without understanding what they are doing :-).
[12:57] <jenenliu> matematikaadit: thanks, I've removed it
[12:58] <matematikaadit> jenenliu: ur welcome
[12:58] <Walex2> matematikaadit: perhaps you have package 'emacs' installed that depends on either version...
[12:59] <Walex2> matematikaadit: try to 'apt-cache rdepends emacs23'
[13:02] <majod> how to get -current- cpu frequency in real time? im on core i5 and its supposed to change depending on load
[13:03] <wonderworld> i am trying to build my own wifi-AP using ubuntu. any thoughts on compatible wifi-usb hardware?
[13:06] <matematikaadit> Walex2: ah, yes, there are emacs-goodies-el that depends on it based on `apt-cache rdepends --installed emacs23`
[13:07] <matematikaadit> Walex2: thanks, now it's fixed.
[13:09] <seksifemale> hi
[13:09] <jack> hi seksifemale
[13:13] <Armo> Hello. I am trying to have this script execute right after resume from suspend/sleep, but it seems to prevent the system from actually sleeping. What could be wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7027406/
[13:20] <majod> can someone highlight me
[13:20] <jack> jack1, go die plz
[13:22] <kostkon> !ghost | jack
[13:22] <jpds> kostkon: No, they look like two different people.
[13:22] <jack> bla...
[13:22] <kostkon> oh
[13:22] <jack> kostkon: jack is my nick
[13:22] <jack> jack1 is the usurper
[13:25] <Caelum> hi I'm having a problem with two finger click on this trackpad, the popup menu immediately disappears
[13:30] <fool>  Hello,I have just installed the newest debian in VMware-Wokrstation,with xfce DE.Now I have a problem,that is I can't move window with my right-arrow key,but other directions' keys are good.I have tried to searched a lot but couldn't find any answer.
[13:30] <Ric> #Cyber 200
[13:31] <Armo> Hello. I am trying to have this script execute right after resume from suspend/sleep, but it seems to prevent the system from actually sleeping. What could be wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7027406/
[13:32] <MarkDavies> I want to make sure if I'm not doing something wrong: is ~/Mail the appropriate directory for storing mails retrieved by getmail (Of course, I will do the hierarchy required there, cur, new, tmp)?
[13:39] <daharon> Hey guys, it seems like there is a problem with the us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com mirror.  I'm trying to find where to report it...
[13:40] <daharon> bugs.launchpad.net?
[13:40] <daharon> Looks like it's an S3 permissions problem.
[13:42] <Armo> Hello. I am trying to have this script execute right after resume from suspend/sleep, but it seems to prevent the system from actually sleeping. What could be wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7027406/
[13:48] <r1tz> Armo, http://tinyurl.com/k647rsw
[13:58] <Armo> r1tz, Okay. I adjusted my script according to the link you provided. The system sleeps now, but the command itself still does not work as it should.
[14:01] <Armo> r1tz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7027567/
[14:05] <nbr-linux-n00b> hey all!
[14:05] <nbr-linux-n00b> i desperately need help -- Ubuntu has bricked my mobo?!? :( :( :(
[14:06] <nbr-linux-n00b> so many people here, but no one talks?
[14:06] <nbr-linux-n00b> am i violating protocol or someething? :(
[14:06] <gordonjcp> nbr-linux-n00b: it's lunchtime
[14:07] <nbr-linux-n00b> oh. it's 9am here. ? :(
[14:07] <Guest5060> ^ haha
[14:07] <gordonjcp> nbr-linux-n00b: it's highly unlikely that Ubuntu as "bricked" anything
[14:07] <llutz> !details | nbr-linux-n00b
[14:07] <nbr-linux-n00b> i konw man. i know it's "not ubuntus fault".
[14:07] <nbr-linux-n00b> but i'm tellin ya' ... "it's ubuntus fault".
[14:07] <nbr-linux-n00b> :D
[14:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> so. long story short, many installs later, i had gotten to 12.04 and was upgrading to 12.10 ...
[14:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> "done isntall, require reboot"
[14:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> okay good ...
[14:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> problem is, for three days of installs, ubuntu has issues with my new build, causing bios splash screen on reboot to hang, needing a *second* boot after hang to get into ubuntu ...
[14:09] <nbr-linux-n00b> when i went for the second reboot after hang (this is for the reboot required to finish install) then just nothing ... not even grub.
[14:09] <nbr-linux-n00b> splash screen for Asus, but can not enter bios. can not do anything. :(
[14:09] <nbr-linux-n00b> installed boot-repair to usb drive, but can not get it to boot.
[14:09] <gordonjcp> sounds like a hardware problem
[14:10] <nbr-linux-n00b> mobo light is on?
[14:10] <gordonjcp> have you tried stripping the machine down to a minimal config and trying it?
[14:10] <nbr-linux-n00b> mobo has no f*king speaker though, so can't hear beeps.
[14:10] <nbr-linux-n00b> oh last thing it gave me befor crapping out was like "no screen detected" at grub.
[14:11] <nbr-linux-n00b> but then the next reset lead to hang at splash. (hd 6570 gfx card) can not strip it out or i will not have a video port.
[14:11] <nbr-linux-n00b> only other thing in there is a crappy sound card, cuz ubuntu has a known bug with my HDA-intel 877 onboard sound chip.
[14:12] <suri> hi guys...
[14:12] <suri> very new here
[14:12] <suri> :)
[14:13] <wcurran68> Anyone else having problems upgrading to 12.1 from 12.04 ?
[14:13] <nbr-linux-n00b> can anyone come up with *any* method for proceeding on a new build that was working ... even had ubuntu installed and working ... UNTIL an update from 12.04 to 12.10 failed on reboot ... leading to no access to bios, no boot from USB, just hang at bios. wtf are my options?
[14:13] <wcurran68> (talk about timing)
[14:14] <nbr-linux-n00b> if i hold down del or f2 to get to bios it just passed the splash screen and goes black ! ! ! :( :( :( this SUCKS.
[14:15] <nbr-linux-n00b> what good is a USB live-disk of boot-repair if it WONT BOOT :( ?
[14:15] <jozefk> nbr-linux-n00b, try to hold down F2 or F12 before you press the power button
[14:15] <jozefk> and keep holding it down the F2 or F12
[14:15] <jozefk> till BIOS appears or the boot menu to choose from where to boot
[14:16] <nbr-linux-n00b> nothing. just blank after splash again. ???
[14:16] <nbr-linux-n00b> i'm having trouble even understanding how software could fuck up my bios this bad?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> !language|nbr-linux-n00b,
[14:16] <jozefk> are you sure F2 and F12 are the right keys on your machine? maybe it's DEL?
[14:17] <nbr-linux-n00b> sorry!!!
[14:17] <nbr-linux-n00b> yes says it right at the bottom of my awesome asus splash screen .lol
[14:17] <jozefk> I doubt software did anything to your hardware :)
[14:17] <nbr-linux-n00b> and i've been in bios plenty of times tryin to get dang ubuntu to work :(
[14:17] <nbr-linux-n00b> uh work *properly
[14:17] <nbr-linux-n00b> am i at flashing cmos stage or somthing?
[14:17] <nbr-linux-n00b> can u even do that without bios access?
[14:18] <nbr-linux-n00b> pull the pin and battery? what?
[14:18] <nbr-linux-n00b> i've got NOTHIN here :(
[14:18] <acovrig> I have an LVM I want to resize, I ran lvresize.  I thought I could do gparted /dev/<vg>/<lv>, but it doesn't show anything useful, is that not possible?
[14:18] <jozefk> yes. try first removing the battery from laptop if that's laptop and remove the power then wait 15 minutes and see if anything changes
[14:18] <nbr-linux-n00b> desktop
[14:18] <jozefk> if not, then reset the CMOS. it won't hurt
[14:19] <nbr-linux-n00b> "reset CMOS" is the jumper pin?
[14:19] <jozefk> ok desktop same no problem. remove the power and wait 15 minutes. if no difference reset the CMOS
[14:19] <nbr-linux-n00b> "reset the cmos" agian, you mean pull the jumper ?
[14:19] <jozefk> jumper right. if you can't figure that out then remove the CMOS battery and wait 15 minutes then put it back
[14:20] <jozefk> these are more hardware related questions though :)
[14:22] <nbr-linux-n00b> jozefk, i suppose i get your drift about "hardware related" but my computer was fine until ubuntu install failed. ???
[14:23] <nbr-linux-n00b> on a side note, as a new ubuntu user, i have to say, bricked-pc aside, i have been pretty thoroughly frustrated not just with the ubuntu-linux learning curve, but with the basic functionality of the program.
[14:24] <jozefk> nbr-linux-n00b, ok sorry about that. once I got my ethernet (NIC) controller damaged by some linux distro. it was unbelievable but that's what happened. it took me some times and reboots till I got it working again...
[14:24] <jozefk> I love ubuntu :)
[14:25] <nbr-linux-n00b> troubleshooting for a noob is extremely problematic, as 99% of responses involve CLI inputs that the new user has NO IDEA what they are doing ... so you are just screwing with CLIs that may be doing more harm than good.
[14:25] <suri> yes i did failed many times, but still i love it :)
[14:26] <jozefk> nbr-linux-n00b, use the OS you like. nobody force you to use linux
[14:27] <cfhowlett> nbr-linux-n00b, nitpick = ubuntu is not a "program"
[14:27] <nbr-linux-n00b> yeh. joze. the funny part is this last install of ubuntu was actually so i could switch back to Windows. but i had to get the liveDisk ubuntu back on to harddisk so i could use the USBdrive to help with the windows install. unfortuantely in that process, all my drives are now OS-less as well as the USB-drive. and it don't matter anyhow cuz the pooter is now bricked at bios splash.
[14:28] <majod> nbr-linux-n00b: you should take a look at elemetary OS...i think its even more user friendly than ubuntu...and its based on ubuntu
[14:28] <nbr-linux-n00b> any i have this crazy suspicion that pulling the cmos battery isn't gonna do squat.
[14:29] <nbr-linux-n00b> and after that, i get the feeling i am going to get radio silence over here regarding what to do next.
[14:29] <jozefk> hahaha
[14:29] <nbr-linux-n00b> cuz, really what do you do with a pooter that won't boot, won't bios won't nothing?
[14:29] <majod> oh im sorry for that
[14:29] <cfhowlett> nbr-linux-n00b, perhaps less speculation and more hard data is in order here.  why don't we SEE what happens after you pull the cmos battery and work from fact not fiction.
[14:29] <Pessimist> nbr-linux-n00b, linux shells are better than guis in every way whatsoever
[14:30] <nbr-linux-n00b> sure. if you know what you are doing, pressimist. ;)
[14:30] <jozefk> it should work. you don't really need windows anymore. it's more complicated to have dual boot or triple boot or what ever things you are trying to do there
[14:30] <nbr-linux-n00b> last time i used CLI was in 1992 to modifiy the .cfg file for Scorched Earth, so ... i'm pretty stupid.
[14:30] <nbr-linux-n00b> and linux CLI commands make DOS seem intuitive.
[14:31] <jozefk> man cli is so simple. you need to learn only apt-get and aptitude I guess
[14:31] <jozefk> that's all :)
[14:31] <nbr-linux-n00b> yeah. and aptitude isn't even installed by default.
[14:31] <Caelum> in my startup programs, I have "xmodmap /home/user/.Xmodmap", but it seems to be getting overridden by something
[14:31] <Caelum> I'm using cinnamon
[14:31] <skittishtrigger> anyone know if irc.freenode.net. server is still up and running?
[14:31] <nbr-linux-n00b> aren't we on that right now?
[14:32] <jozefk> :)))
[14:32] <ezra-s> nbr-linux-n00b, apt-get, forget aptitude
[14:32] <cfhowlett> skittishtrigger, go there and see
[14:32] <jozefk> I like aptitude coz I can search with it. or I never learned how to search with apt-get :)
[14:32] <Caelum> apt-get search <foo>
[14:32] <gonephishing> test
[14:32] <skittishtrigger> good answer, tried but wouldnt connect. ping gives a responce
[14:32] <llutz> jozefk: apt-cache search pattern
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !freenode|skittishtrigger,
[14:33] <jozefk> Caelum, apt-get search vim
[14:33] <jozefk> E: Invalid operation search
[14:33] <somsip> Caelum: how did you install cinnamon?
[14:33] <skittishtrigger> thank you ubottu, i thought by entering the address ubuntu help gave me it was down.
[14:33] <nbr-linux-n00b> has it been 15minutes yet !?!
[14:34] <jozefk> llutz, thanks. do you have also something I can use instead: aptitude show vim?
[14:34] <llutz> jozefk: apt-cache show vim
[14:34] <llutz> jozefk: man apt-cache
[14:35] <skittishtrigger> anyone have trouble with group permissions sticking in 12.04?
[14:35] <jozefk> ok cool so apt-cache is the way to go maybe. I still like aptitude though. what's the function of aptitude then by the way?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !anyone|skittishtrigger,
[14:35] <suri> does elementary Luna works fine with older PCs?
[14:35] <skittishtrigger> !details
[14:36] <jozefk> I kind of like Unity more than Gnome
[14:36] <Touhou11> suri: What specification?
[14:36] <suri> dual core, 4 gb ram
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !luna
[14:36] <iwantoski> skittishtrigger: Remember that if you ssh to server, changing group permissions requires a re-log, as they're cached upon login
[14:36] <Touhou11> suri: That's not old o.O Yes, it should be fine
[14:36] <majod> suri: no problem. but you can wait month or two for the new version based on ubuntu 14.04
[14:37] <cfhowlett> suri: this is the ubuntu channel - elementary not supported here.  Older hardware does run well with lubuntu and xubuntu
[14:37] <suri> Oh! its time to leave Xubuntu and move to Luna
[14:37]  * jozefk away for dinner :)
[14:37] <suri> Luna is gorgeous
[14:37] <iwantoski> skittishtrigger: I learned that the hard way :s
[14:38] <suri> i am eagerly waiting to check it
[14:38] <skittishtrigger> when adding a user to group (user to www-data in this case) and logging out (to make sure group permissions refreshed) still not allowing actions (copy file to folder or create new folder). Any ideas or points in the right direction to figure out myself?
[14:38] <iwantoski> skittishtrigger: Is the folder in question owned by www-data?
[14:38] <skittishtrigger> yes
[14:39] <llutz_> iwantoski: is it group-owned and group-writable by www-data?
[14:39] <skittishtrigger> yes
[14:40] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: and "groups" shows you as member of www-data?
[14:40] <suri> cfhowlett: i am just asking bro. It's ok, no issue.
[14:40] <skittishtrigger> Yes, and after relogging in i double checked group membership and permissions
[14:40] <cfhowlett> suri, no worries
[14:41] <skittishtrigger> this is a fresh install by the way
[14:41] <skittishtrigger> reinstalled and trying to do it right instead of 777 everything
[14:42] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: "ls -ld /dir/youwant/write/to"
[14:42] <skittishtrigger> drwxrw-r-- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Mar  1 17:13 /var/www
[14:43] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: chmod 775 dir
[14:43] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: dirs need executable/traverse flag
[14:43] <skittishtrigger> (was using nautilus to try and move file btw) should I use th -r flag too?
[14:43] <raggg> hi all
[14:43] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: -r  to remove read?? why
[14:44] <llutz_> !permissions | skittishtrigger
[14:44] <skittishtrigger> that might have been it. i thought -R was recursive?
[14:44] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: -R is recirsive, -r isn't
[14:44] <llutz_> recursive*
[14:44] <raggg> can someone explain lts enablement please? if i am installing a new system should i go for the latest saucy kernel?
[14:45] <skittishtrigger> that is prolly it then. i tried chmod 776 /dir/her -r i think the last time (before coming here) as a last resort
[14:45] <skittishtrigger> lts= long term support
[14:46] <SaidKLE> Question: How does one add a startup command that executes from within a given directory? I tried "cd /home/me/mydir && ./program" but it didn't work.
[14:46] <SaidKLE> Also, I can't execute it from the home directory because the command copies a bunch of files that I only want in the directory the program executes from.
[14:47] <skittishtrigger> llutz and ubottu You two rock. the -r are was the issue! after doing it without the -r (now i know -r = remove read -R recursive) it worked!
[14:47] <nbr-linux-n00b> REINSERTING BATTEYR NOW
[14:47] <llutz_> skittishtrigger: things tend to work, if you do them right :)
[14:48] <keng> close
[14:48] <skittishtrigger> lmao, yes they do. Learning in linux most things work the first time if you do them properly. lol.
[14:48] <nbr-linux-n00b> GUESS WHAT !?!
[14:48] <llutz_> nbr-linux-n00b: drop capds
[14:48] <llutz_> caps
[14:48] <nbr-linux-n00b> guess what !!!??!!!
[14:49] <nbr-linux-n00b> *i got in to bios!*
[14:49] <skittishtrigger> bad cmos battery?
[14:49] <SaidKLE> Is it really bios, or is it the new windows 8 fake?
[14:49] <nbr-linux-n00b> no. i think ubuntu update goofed cmos somehow.
[14:49] <nbr-linux-n00b> pulled battery. 15  min. bang. bios.
[14:50] <nbr-linux-n00b> thank you jozefk.
[14:50] <nbr-linux-n00b> even though i suggested it myself. lol
[14:52] <nbr-linux-n00b> windows 7 bootdisk loads!
[14:52] <nbr-linux-n00b> and this may conclude my brief sojourn to linux.
[14:52] <nbr-linux-n00b> apt-get ubuntu=fail
[14:53] <gtr_> My version of df doesn’t support the option --output=pcent, but apparently, newer do (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/df-invocation.html). How can I get the latest version?
[14:53] <somsip> gtr_: what version of ubuntu?
[14:53] <Na3iL> hey all
[14:54] <gtr_> somsip: 13.10
[14:54] <somsip> !info coreutils | gtr_
[14:54] <Na3iL> if  I upgrade from 13.04 to the beta 13.04 I loose my files or no ?
[14:54] <Na3iL> to the 14.04 beta I mean
[14:54] <somsip> gtr_: so that's the official version. If you want something unofficial, you're on your own
[14:54] <somsip> !14.04 | Na3iL
[14:55] <cfhowlett> Na3iL, depends. do you have a separate /home partition?
[14:55] <somsip> !ppa | gtr_ (so you'd need to look here to find one)
[14:55] <Na3iL> yes somsip
[14:55] <Na3iL> ubottu,  yeah I know just asking before the new version of ubuntu
[14:55] <gtr_> somsip: ok, I’ll have a look
[14:55] <somsip> Na3iL: so, you can upgrade, but for now 14.04 is pre-release and not supported here. See #ubuntu+1
[14:56] <Na3iL> ok somsip  thx
[14:56] <leeyaa> hello
[14:56] <Na3iL> cfhowlett,  yeah I have a separate home partition
[14:56] <Na3iL> hey leeyaa :D
[14:56] <leeyaa> i have a custom init.d script with start/stop/restart options that I would like to upstart so it monitors it if it is running or not.
[14:56] <leeyaa> could anyone explain to me how to do that ?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Na3iL, hit the #ubuntu+1 channel for details, but I suspect you can do as you described
[14:57] <Na3iL> ok ty bro
[14:57] <luminosity> Good night,everone.
[14:57] <llutz_> leeyaa: have you looked at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[14:58] <leeyaa> llutz_: i have but i cant really understand it
[15:00] <nbr-linux-n00b> anyone familiar with boot-repair disk util?
[15:06] <nbr-linux-n00b> when i start boot-repair-disk from liveUSB do i need to select "start boot-repair session" from GRUB (only listed choice) to run GPARTED or do i need to hit "c" to go to CLI and then run a command? please !?!
[15:07] <nbr-linux-n00b> please don't make me reinstall ubuntu just to use gparted.
[15:07] <cfhowlett> nbr-linux-n00b, boot your live CD, start gparted
[15:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> the live CD is for "boot-repair" which CNET said contained Gparted.
[15:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> when the USB boots to GRUB all that is listed is "start boot-repair session" (which seems to hang with loading dots similar to ubuntu splash) or i can go to CLI.
[15:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> can you run gparted from cli?
[15:08] <nbr-linux-n00b> <---- is an idiot.
[15:09] <nbr-linux-n00b> calling occupants of interplanetary craft ... ?
[15:09] <cfhowlett> nbr-linux-n00b, it would help immensely if you would stop making off-topic comments
[15:10] <nbr-linux-n00b> well. it would also help to get a simple response.
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !patience|nbr-linux-n00b,
[15:14] <levo> i have already openjdk installed, but i can't find javac , i'm about to reinstall openjdk again, how can i do it so that old files don't duplicate with new one and so?
[15:14] <somsip> levo: is it not in /usr/bin/javac?
[15:14] <geirha> levo: you need the package called openjdk-7-jdk
[15:15] <levo> no it's not there somsip
[15:16] <somsip> levo: sounds like a force reinstall might help then
[15:17] <levo> somsip: i used sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk, it's downloading like 17Mb, don't they conflict with old files?
[15:17] <somsip> levo: if it's not given you an error, it may be that it was not installed initially.
[15:18] <somsip> levo: error/warning/whatever
[15:18] <levo> somsip: so i think that's the case. thanks:)
[15:20] <geirha> levo: as long as you haven't installed any java "off the books" (e.g. by using a tarball instead of apt), then there won't be any conflicts
[15:20] <geirha> you can even have multiple java versions installed simultaneously, without conflict
[15:26] <raggg> hi guys, the ubuntu installer keeps trying to install the bootloader on my usb stick instead of the hd, any way to manually tell it to install to /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda?
[15:28] <cfhowlett> raggg, advanced options will allow you select the installation target
[15:28] <heroyi_> Hey there. I was wondering if anyone can help me install ubuntu onto my windows 8 hp lap
[15:29] <diecastarts> heroyi maybe try a live cd and see if it work alright with that system
[15:29] <raggg> cfhowlett: im using the mini.iso netboot installer with the text interface, its dropped me back to a text menu but i dont see an advanced options
[15:30] <heroyi_> I have tried the boot repair but it tells me to download an iso from sourceforge. 64 bit
[15:30] <cfhowlett> raggg, could be I'm wrong.  never used netboot, but on "normal" install, the last option before preceding install confirmation is selection of grubs target on the advanced options tab
[15:30] <Touhou11> heroyi_: Does the laptop use UEFI with Secure Boot?
[15:31] <heroyi_> Touhou11: I believe so but the boot repair detects a efi setting
[15:31] <raggg> cfhowlett: not on text install :/ i can get to a shell maybe i can do something there
[15:31] <fengshaun> how can I open a smb directory (automounted) in terminal?
[15:31] <diecastarts> need a bit of help complain clamav. after configure it it say to please install zlib and zlib-devel packages. but cannot find that in the software center.
[15:31] <cfhowlett> raggg, I'm sure there's a way, but I don't know what it is.  Ask in the channel - lots of people here more experienced than I am.
[15:31] <diecastarts> compile** sorry
[15:32] <fengshaun> nautilus gives me smb:// in the location bar
[15:32] <heroyi_> Touhou11: I have played around with it but I can only do ubuntu off of the usb but only lets me load it when i have legacy on
[15:32] <fengshaun> and I can't find out *where* it's mounted
[15:32] <heroyi_> Touhou11: from what i udnerstand, both os must load in efi (as windows is from efi)
[15:33] <heroyi_> also it seems -d is not a recognized command. Is this is correct? Trying to find more informat about the system before
[15:33] <raggg> anyone know how to install grub manually during text based install? I need to spevify manually which hdd's MBR to install to
[15:33] <Caelum> raggg: chroot into the install and run grub-install
[15:34] <heroyi_> Touhou11: if it matters the bio is insydeh20 a9? i believe
[15:34] <streulma> I have to do "setpci -d 10de:0ab5 9c.b=06" in grub, the manual method is changing in grub.cfg but after update-grub it is reloaded, where can I change it permanently? It should be set before "set root".
[15:35] <raggg> Caelum: i chrooted in to /target and did 'grub-install /dev/sdb'
[15:35] <raggg> Caelum: output was lots of lines of 'device node not found' and then last line was 'installation finished' does that mean it worked or not?
[15:36] <Caelum> raggg: grub devices are different, e.g. hd0 etc.
[15:37] <Caelum> raggg: no /dev/sdb is right
[15:37] <Caelum> raggg: but you have to mount /dev, /proc and /system first
[15:38] <fengshaun> does anybody know where smb shares are mounted when you access them through nautilus?
[15:39] <Caelum> they are not mounted
[15:39] <diecastarts> need a bit of help compile clamav. after doing configure it say to please install zlib and zlib-devel packages. but cannot find that in the software center alot of thing that are close but not sure what to install
[15:39] <raggg> Caelum: sorted, thanks for help :)
[15:39] <Caelum> raggg: np
[15:40] <fengshaun> Caelum: then why can I browse through them?
[15:40] <james_brown> so i wanted to replace unity with kubuntu. i ran apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and rebooted, but im still in unity. this web page: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/728203-how-to-replace-the-unity-desktop-on-ubuntu said the only thing i needed to do was run that command. what am i missing?
[15:40] <fengshaun> what sorcery is this?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  logout, switch, logout
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  logout, switch, login*
[15:40] <cfhowlett> james_brown, you have to select kubuntu
[15:40] <Caelum> diecastarts: add deb-src lines to your apt sources, then do an apt-get update; apt-get build-dep clamav
[15:40] <raggg> Caelum: installer still thinks i havent set up grub, is it safe to proceed? does grub-install do everything the installer normally would?
[15:41] <james_brown> "kde plasma workspace"?
[15:41] <Caelum> raggg: but you already installed it right?
[15:41] <Caelum> raggg: so you don't have to install it again
[15:41] <Pessimist> james_brown, sounds right
[15:41] <cfhowlett> james_brown, whatever the kde option is ...
[15:41] <raggg> ok fingers crossed :) thanks
[15:42] <maferv> is there a way to hide the computer hostname in sent mails using Sylpheed?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> maferv, ask the sylpheed team/channel?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !info sylpheed
[15:43] <daftykins> seems like nefarious activity if i ever saw it...
[15:43] <diecastarts> Caelum, what deb lines
[15:43] <maferv> cfhowlett,  there's no such channel
[15:43] <cfhowlett> maferv, go to their page and look for their support options.
[15:43] <Caelum> diecastarts: go into /etc/apt/sources.list.d and make a file with all your deb lines changed to deb-src
[15:43] <cfhowlett> maferv, irc isn't the only show in town.
[15:44] <raggg> Caelum: the system boots fine, thx again!
[15:44] <james_brown> holy shit this doesnt look familiar at all. is kubuntu really what i was running on ubuntu 9.10? im just trying to get back to that same desktop manager.
[15:44] <cfhowlett> !language|james_brown, keep it clean please
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  yes, maybe you have to get familiar with the interface
[15:45] <james_brown> i was familiar with 9.10 :|
[15:45] <maferv> sorry, I thought this program was popular enough, I guess it's not cfhowlett
[15:45] <diecastarts> I about to give up on linux
[15:45] <honestemu> How do I change the motd on the machine I ssh to if I don't have root?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  yes, and soon you'll be familiar with what you have now
[15:46] <streulma> hmm, I know now what's the PC is doing by installing Ubuntu, it gets packages as Retreive updates with installation and Install third party programs
[15:46] <cfhowlett> maferv, no worries.  hope you find a workable solution.
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> diecastarts  what's your issue?
[15:46] <james_brown> what i have now doesnt make any sense. i started on slackware in 1995 and it made more sense than this.
[15:46] <diecastarts> just tring to install/compile clamav
[15:47] <cfhowlett> james_brown, things change.  users learn.
[15:47] <diecastarts> i did a configure and it says to install zlib
[15:47] <james_brown> cfhowlett: unnecessarily, even
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> diecastarts  what's wrong with sudo apt-get install clamav?
[15:47] <diecastarts> it old and you cannot update the virus datebase
[15:47] <diecastarts> database*
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> old?
[15:48] <cfhowlett> !info clamav
[15:48] <james_brown> before i booted into kubuntu, unity told me i had 619 updates to install. now in kubunutu, i cant even figure out where to go to install the updates :|
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade   (in a terminal)
[15:50] <james_brown> the terminal...thats another thing that seems to get more and more elusive with linux. they keep making it harder to find the terminal and i keep resorting to ctrl shift f1
[15:50] <fishcooker>  have login to the server box.. i want to implement those configuration to another box.
[15:50] <james_brown> ctrl alt evn
[15:50] <fishcooker> is it possible if i just common user
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  you sound like someone who's getting familiar with somethng new
[15:50] <diecastarts> james_brown, ctrl alt T
[15:51] <james_brown> MonkeyDust: its just frustrating to spend all the time learning linux and then have to relearn it all over again because no one can seem to be content with keeping things relatively similar from one year to the next
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  it must be you, i'm familiar with it
[15:52] <james_brown> no, its not me :|
[15:52] <cfhowlett> james_brown, so you want a vintage OS that doesn't change due to user demands and hardware evolution.  Sounds like you might be happier rolling your own distro.
[15:52] <james_brown> and you cant deny this OS keeps drastically changing
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> james_brown  yes, it's called "improving"
[15:53] <cfhowlett> james_brown, this conversation can be more productively held in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[15:53] <james_brown> what about all the time i spent learning to edit my XF86Config file? wasted knowledge...no longer of any use. now i cant even open a terminal.
[15:53] <Pessimist> !offtopic
[15:53] <james_brown> bah...quit changing shit. its not helping. thanks for the fucking help. and fuck your offtopic and bullshit language requirements
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !ops
[15:54] <Pessimist> l0l, he left
[15:54]  * cfhowlett not surprised at all that this discussion went the way it did.
[15:55] <heroyi_> how can i change the boot repair to run off of an bootrepair iso that was just downloaded
[15:56] <renekton2> Ubunto failed me...
[15:56] <renekton2> I can't use my mouse properly
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !details|renekton2,
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> heroyi_: what chande do you need, you boot the iso (or install boot repair) and run it
[15:57] <renekton2> It just won't work
[15:57] <renekton2> Hehe I can use it the 1st min
[15:58] <karab44> hello
[15:58] <heroyi_> bodhi_zazen: I am trying to install ubuntu onto a windows8 machine. i am trying to do a boot repair cause it is being difficult but the boot repair keeps giving me an error stating that efi was detected and to use an boot repair for the 64 efi compatible
[15:58] <heroyi_> bodhi_zazen: im using ubuntu 13.1
[15:58] <karab44> I wait long time until USB pendrive is discovered. Any suggestions?
[15:59] <karab44> it's about 5-10 minutes
[15:59] <bodhi_zazen> heroyi_: you need to boot and install with uefi enabled
[16:00] <bodhi_zazen> heroyi_: and in many machines, you also need to configure your BIOS to allow you to choose which OS to boot
[16:00] <bodhi_zazen> heroyi_: and if you have an error message, post the url boot repair gave yo
[16:00] <diecastarts> ok I tried to isntall just clamav..with apt-get.. doesn't do it.. what is a good av for linux
[16:00] <raggg> what is the default login manager in lts version?
[16:00] <heroyi_> bodhi_zazen: there is no url, just the url to download the iso image
[16:01] <Pici> !doesntwork | diecastarts
[16:01] <heroyi_> bodhi_zazen: it will not load up the ubuntu despite the repair i have tried
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> !av | diecastarts
[16:01] <cfhowlett> diecastarts, if apt-get doesn't install, sounds like you have serious system issues.
[16:02] <bodhi_zazen> heroyi_: did you install with uefi enabled ?
[16:02] <heroyi_> bodhi_zazen: i can't access the liveusb without going into legacy
[16:02] <honestemu> How do I change the motd on the machine I ssh to if I don't have root?
[16:02] <diecastarts> its there.. but no commands are working... so i would like another name of a good AV
[16:02] <bodhi_zazen> heroyi_: well, then you are going to have problems
[16:03] <diecastarts> and yes i want to to scan windows partitions or files
[16:03] <bodhi_zazen> windws will not boot with uefi disabled
[16:03] <bodhi_zazen> so to boot ubuntu you will have to go into your bois and disable uefi
[16:03] <cfhowlett> diecastarts, suggest you look in software center - options are listed
[16:04] <raggg> anyone here using cinnamon on ubuntu?
[16:04] <diecastarts> yeah there no good or outdated i tried them all from the software center
[16:04] <cfhowlett> !virus|diecastarts,
[16:05] <subz3r0> honestemu: /etc/ssh/sshd_config  -> PrintMotd yes --> #Banner /etc/issue.net = Banner /etc/issue.net
[16:06] <OerHeks> diecastarts, you need to update clamav first, lika all antivirusapps
[16:07] <FreezingCold> Would I be right by saying Ubuntu has more updates in general compared to Debian?
[16:07] <wad> FreezingCold, yes!
[16:07] <FreezingCold> I usually use Debian for servers/general use, but I'm considering switching to Ubuntu
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !server|FreezingCold,
[16:08] <FreezingCold> ksplice and Canonical's commercial support sound interesting
[16:08] <diecastarts> yes thanks but i could update clamav from the version that installed from apt-get or the software center. but anyway I tring Comodo Antivirus
[16:08] <diecastarts> couldn't**
[16:14] <Okitain> Hey guys, anyone know how to make a simple FTP server that everyone can access?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> !ftp
[16:14] <ovrflw0x> what's the best "Desktop Environment" on Linux for programming & development?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Okitain: do you have to use ftp, its terribly insecure
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Okitain: is there no scope to use sftp?
[16:15] <sakang> ovrflw0x: what is best for some is worst for some
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: depends how you work
[16:15] <Okitain> ActionParsnip: "everyone can access" is kind of a feature for me.
[16:16] <ovrflw0x> sakang: which one has the highest rating?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: some like how Compiz can show all the open windows, but you can use compiz on any DE, or even as a standalone WM with some configs
[16:16] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip: isn't compiz outdated now?
[16:17] <gtozzi> Hi there. Xubuntu 12.04 LTS hangs on boot. How do I debug the evil upstart?
[16:17] <sakang> ovrflw0x: ask Linus - he used to love gnome, now he hates it
[16:17] <cr37> Okitain, I've used vsftp.  pretty easy to configure.
[16:18] <raggg> anyone here using cinnamon?
[16:18] <xangua> !anyone | raggg
[16:18] <sakang> go over at mint
[16:18] <Okitain> cr37: actually tried to run it. I can't find where to set up the folder which FTP shares.
[16:19] <raggg> ok, just installed cinnamon, but none of the settings/config windows open, have installed cinnamon-settings but still no luck
[16:20] <raggg> but i can launch them from the command line, just not by clicking the icons
[16:21] <gtozzi> I have to boot in recovery mode, manually enable network, then I can resume normal boot. Any ideas?
[16:22] <mpduty> I want to popularize Ubuntu in schools of my city, what should I do?
[16:23] <cr37> okitain, in /etc/vsftpd.conf, add a line like "local_root=/opt/ftpfolder"
[16:25] <cfhowlett> mpduty, see www.spreadubuntu.org
[16:25] <cfhowlett> mpduty, Army?  95C?
[16:26] <mpduty> cfhowlett, could you please elaborate :)
[16:26] <cfhowlett> mpduty, ex-mp joke.  nvrmnd
[16:26] <cr37> okitain, I think you can also change the home folder of the "ftp" user with the usermod command.  By default it is set to /srv/ftp.  for instance, usermod -d /your/ftp/folder ftp
[16:27] <mpduty> cfhowlett, :)
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> raggg: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:34] <qdii_> where can I fill a bug report for Ubuntu?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> !bug|qdii_,
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> qdii_: run:  ubuntu-bug packagename   in terminal, lots easier
[16:35] <qdii_> thank you
[16:38] <gtozzi> is there a way to debug the startup process?
[16:39] <gamux-xiaoji> Hello,everyone
[16:39] <cyford> hi
[16:39] <cfhowlett> gamux-xiaoji, nihao
[16:40] <gamux-xiaoji> Nihao....
[16:41] <ubuntu13> Hi! "apt-get update" is giving me this error: "W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com saucy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[16:42] <cfhowlett> ubuntu13, it happens.  package maintainer needs to address this
[16:43] <ubuntu13> cfhowlett, So, there's nothing I can do about it?
[16:43] <daftykins> no need to
[16:43] <Nikolay> hi
[16:43] <cfhowlett> ubuntu13, contact the package manager if you wish ...
[16:44] <jack> maybe you can make dpkg ignore such stuff
[16:44] <jack> not sure though
[16:45] <ubuntu13> cfhowlett, This has been happening for the last 2-3 days.  Shouldn't the package maintainer be already be aware of this?
[16:45] <gtozzi> anybody?
[16:46] <cfhowlett> ubuntu13, patience.
[16:47] <ubuntu13> cfhowlett, You mean right now  (here on irc) or in general? :)
[16:48] <OerHeks> ubuntu13, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys < add keys here > # and run sudo apt-get update
[16:48] <AlanBell> ubuntu13: it isn't a repository issue, it is local
[16:49] <AlanBell> ubuntu13: to be specific sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[16:49] <OerHeks> AlanBell, if it is not the key problem,does he needs to rebuild the cache like this ? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220&page=5&p=12835850#post12835850
[16:50] <AlanBell> OerHeks: probably, yes
[16:51] <ubuntu13> AlanBell, "gpg: "40976EAF437D05B" not a key ID: skipping"
[16:51] <OerHeks> ubuntu13 missing a 5 at the end
[16:51] <AlanBell> ubuntu13: 40976EAF437D05B5
[16:51] <ubuntu13> AlanBell, Thanks.
[16:52] <honestemu> subz3r0: I don't have write privileges in /etc/sshd/ssh_config. Therefore I can't change PrintMotd to yes. Any other solution?
[16:53] <bodhi_zazen> honestemu: sudo -e /etc/sshd/ssh_config or sudo gedit /etc/sshd/ssh_config
[16:54] <AlanBell> honestemu: you need to get the person who does have permissions to do that then :)
[16:54] <honestemu> bodhi_zazen: I'm not an administrator on this remote machine, so I don't have the sudo credentials. Is there any other way to edit the motd?
[16:54] <cdavis> Any French speaker can translate this to English for me? "Bref, juste l'ajout en entête du #!/bin/monshell_à_moi_que_je_veux et tout roule !"
[16:54] <jim__> Hi I am having difficulty printing to my canon mg7150 printer. I have installed the correct drivers (I think) I can access the printers web page and it tells me its ink levels, but all attempts to print to it dissapear. Any thaughts?
[16:54] <honestemu> AlanBell: Darn. So I can't display a fancy welcome screen when I log in?
[16:54] <ubuntu13> AlanBell, Same error after adding new key and running update "GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com saucy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5"
[16:55] <bodhi_zazen> honestemu: best you can do is to add something to your .bashrc
[16:56] <OerHeks> cdavis, "In short, just addi the header <...> and it works"
[16:56] <OerHeks> addi=add
[16:57] <cdavis> OerHeks: heh, I really need to know what the header says :)
[16:57] <cdavis> OerHeks: I assumed #!/bin/bash but that isn't working, so it must be something else?
[16:57] <honestemu> bodhi_zazen: icky. Guess that's what I'll do.
[16:58] <OerHeks> cdavis, yes,   #!/bin/monshell  i guess
[16:59] <cdavis> OerHeks: ok, thanks
[16:59] <sabret00the> Guys, Unity and the top bar have disappeared between a restart. Any idea on how to restore them?
[16:59] <sabret00the> Even my terminal has no Chrome. I'm kind of at a loss here.
[17:00] <Xaitec> unity --replace  ???
[17:02] <sabret00the> I've spotted something saying that Unity is not supported by my hardware. I've been using Unity just fine though.
[17:02] <matthias> i want to develop a JARVIS like voice control progamm. The programm should learn when i speak and run specified commands
[17:04] <matthias> And i prefer recognition in german
[17:04] <emash> Hello everyone how to set kernel in msdos? /msg me pls
[17:10] <aan007bd> Hi there, I need some info. Can anyone help?
[17:14] <ubuntu13> I tried to manually import the key from http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/Release.gpg using the gui but it says that the key is invalid :(
[17:17] <daftykins> ubuntu13: just leave it be
[17:17] <Walex2> ubuntu13: it is likely expired, having a look
[17:18] <ubuntu13> Walex2, OK :)
[17:22] <YOyo__> does anyone here have any experience with dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu
[17:22] <funkster> Q: i have several raspberry pis running ubuntu connected behind firewalls that i wouldn't have access to, I'm looking to trigger specific custom shell commands on the ldevices on-demand from a server on the internet its able to establish a connection to. anyone have a viable solution for this?
[17:24] <OerHeks> funkster, we do not support hacking a firewall
[17:24] <funkster> OerHeks: wtf? i have controll over both devices behind firewall and public server.
[17:25] <OerHeks> funkster, but you admit not to have acces to the firewall itself
[17:25] <funkster> OerHeks: you clearly do not understand what need to be done.
[17:27] <AlanBell> funkster: they will be running raspbian, not Ubuntu
[17:28] <AlanBell> funkster: so you want them to periodically wget something and execute it?
[17:29] <funkster> AlanBell: in a nutshell yeah, but i'd have to wget/query every second, that seems like a complete waste.
[17:29] <AlanBell> funkster: maybe use web sockets or something?
[17:29] <AlanBell> or a persistent ssh session?
[17:29] <funkster> looking to establish a connection then just send data through it.
[17:29] <Walex2> ubuntu13: if you do 'gpg2 --verify Release.gpg Release' two keys are listed with fingerprints 437D05B5 and C0B21F32.
[17:30] <Walex2> ubuntu13: please do a web search using the first as a key.
[17:30] <ubuntu13> Walex2, TRying that.
[17:33] <OerHeks> funkster, from an outside server to your local network,you can make an connection tru teamviewer that uses port 80, and issue any wget command you like
[17:34] <funkster> OerHeks: ……. just stop.
[17:34] <LrdArc> hi! how can I change nautilus to sort by directory first in ubuntu gnome?
[17:34] <CarlFK> where can I find the upstream source of /usr/sbin/make-ssl-cert  # This is a mockup of a script to produce a snakeoil cert
[17:35] <ubuntu13> Walex2, "gpg: can't open signed data `Release'gpg: can't hash datafile: No such file or directory"
[17:36] <ubuntu13> Walex2, I had already run wget http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/Release.gpg
[17:39] <Walex2> ubuntu13: did you a web search with key "437D05B5"?
[17:39] <ubuntu13> Yes, Reading some forum posts now... also got this: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x40976EAF437D05B5
[17:40] <Walex2> ubuntu13: for example the end of http://techpad.co.uk/content.php?sid=84
[17:40] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Yes, reading precisely THAT. :)
[17:40] <tk456> hi is there a partition software that i can use with  win 8.1 to put linux on another drive.. well maybe a boot software?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tk456: disk manager in Windows
[17:41] <Walex2> tk456: sort of. There are various partition manager tools
[17:41] <tk456> and use windows as the boot software?
[17:41] <Walex2> tk456: then you need to add the new partition to the boot list for MS-Windows, and put the LILO/GRUB boot code on the first block of that partition.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tk456: grub will be able to boot both OSes for you
[17:42] <Walex2> tk456: there are quite reasonable HOWTOs on the Ubuntu Wiki
[17:42] <tk456> kk off to wiki thank you :)
[17:43] <Walex2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[17:43] <micahflee> Can someone help me with a PPA question? I'm running one, and I have a single package that's built for saucy. How can I make launchpad build it for trusty, quantal, precise, lucid, etc.?
[17:43] <tk456> aah cool, thanks :D
[17:43] <Walex2> tk456: there are many other HOWTOs, usually the keywords are "dual boot windows ubuntu"
[17:43] <meraj> hello I want to install g++-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf on ubuntu 13.04
[17:43] <ubuntu13> Walex2, I do have other "third part" repos . If I delete ALL the keys,  in /etc/apt, would it be possible to quickly recover them from any kind of backup, if possible?
[17:43] <meraj> what ppa should I use?
[17:44] <Walex2> ubuntu13: try to delete just the relevant key file... But anyhow yes usually re-fetching the keys is easy.
[17:45] <meraj> hello I want to install g++-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf on ubuntu 13.04, which ppa should I use?
[17:46] <ubuntu13> Walex2, which of these should I delete? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7028774/
[17:47] <meraj> anyone did cross compile on i386 for arm ?
[17:47] <meraj> I need these cross compiler , but I can't find the ppa
[17:47] <Walex2> ubuntu13: probably none, but one of those under /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[17:47] <meraj> E: Unable to locate package g++-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[17:47] <meraj> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'g++-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf'
[17:48] <Tobias92> Hello everyone. I'm running into a brick wall trying to establish a kerberos-secured NFS mount. I have added the principal for each machine to its own keytab file, I'm pretty sure reverse DNS is working, I have rpc.gssd running on the client and rpc.svcgssd running on the server. However, when I try to mount, it says "access denied by server". The logs of rpc.*gssd look okay, except for an error saying "error in gss_free_lucid_sec_context(): GSS
[17:48] <Tobias92> _S_NO_CONTEXT (No context has been established) - Unknown error". Does anybody have a suggestion?
[17:48] <Walex2> Tobias92: yes.
[17:49] <Tobias92> Walex2, great, I'm all ears :)
[17:50] <ubuntu13> Walex2, There's nothing inside /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d !
[17:50] <Walex2> Tobias92: strange anatomy :-)
[17:51] <Tobias92> hehe
[17:53] <Walex2> Tobias92: link to follow
[17:53] <Walex2> ubuntu13: sudo gpg2 --keyring -k /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
[17:53] <Tobias92> Walex2, sure, take your time
[17:54] <Walex2> Tobias92: check very carefully all the conditions listed here: http://sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFS.html#fsHintsNFS
[17:54] <Tobias92> Walex2, thanks, I will
[17:55] <Walex2> ubuntu13: that should list the keyring the public keys your APT system trusts. If there is any error probably you need to delete that file and readd the keys.
[17:55] <direw0lf> Question: Just installed 13.10. It's been a long time since my last Breezy Badger install. What happened to the customization?!
[17:55] <direw0lf> I'd like to have more control over my desktop, themes, etc. What gives? Am I forgetting something important?
[17:56] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Still there's only . and .. inside /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
[17:56] <theadmin> direw0lf: If you miss classic Ubuntu, use Xubuntu
[17:56] <Walex2> ubuntu13: sudo gpg2 --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg -k # OOPS
[17:56] <theadmin> direw0lf: It's very similar. The default Ubuntu UI has changed when the GNOME team decided to turn GNOME into some weird mess
[17:56] <theadmin> (and then the Ubuntu team created Unity)
[17:56] <theadmin> So yeah, use Xubuntu
[17:57] <direw0lf> So am I right in assuming Unity is . . . somewhat locked down? I'd hate to have to do a new distro install.
[17:57] <direw0lf> I've spent two days adding and such.
[17:57] <theadmin> direw0lf: You don't need to reinstall from scratch, don't worry, you can switch to Xubuntu right from your existing install with a simple click on this: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/xubuntu-desktop
[17:57] <huttan> -quit
[17:57] <__raven_> 13.10 cli wlan config: wlan0 does not get any ip adress by default but by manual ifconfig - how to solve that?
[17:57] <direw0lf> HUZZAH! Admin always rules!
[17:58] <Walex2> direw0lf: you can install as many desktop environments at the same time as you want. Uninstall one and install another, without reinstalling anything else.
[17:59] <theadmin> !purexfce | direw0lf, if you'd like to remove traces of the "default" Ubuntu you don't like, follow this
[17:59] <direw0lf> Gah, it's like being a noob again. FWIW, I'm always the best non-IT test subject for any linux attempts.
[17:59] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Again lots of stuff created but still only  "." and ".." inside trusted.gpg.d.
[17:59] <direw0lf> I'm somewhere between MS user (I just want a button!) and that kid down the street who 'builds' his computer from newegg. . . .
[18:01] <direw0lf> OK, I lie. I'm a *bit* better than the kid. I don't have to ship memory  or motherboards back because they don't work with my chosen CPU.
[18:01] <daftykins> direw0lf: your conversation is off topic, please ask a question or move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:02] <direw0lf> Thanks, everyone! If I didn't have to grade a stack of midterm essays I'd get on the change immediately. Unfortunately, my 'freetime' was spent during the last two days.
[18:02] <japro> anyone else get crazy cpu usage when playing videos in firefox?
[18:03] <direw0lf> theadmin, what app is being requested for the apt. link?
[18:03] <Biafra> Everyone gets crazy CPU usage in Firefox
[18:03] <Walex2> ubuntu13: ubuntu13 leave 'trusted.gpg.d' alone
[18:03] <Biafra> Try Chrome
[18:03] <theadmin> direw0lf: Software Center, I suppose, you can just use "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" from a terminal
[18:03] <theadmin> direw0lf: Will do the same
[18:04] <Walex2> Biafra: Firefox and Chrome are the same. Web site designers know that they don't pay for CPU on client systems.
[18:04] <ubuntu13> Walex2, But you said there will be 2 keys in there... ??
[18:04] <japro> Biafra, i know that that one is better, but i don't remember it being this ridiculous
[18:04] <direw0lf> ah, thanks. proficient with apt-get
[18:04] <Walex2> ubuntu13: I said to have a look there.
[18:04] <japro> like it literally hits two cores with 100% on a i5 running high clocks
[18:04] <hornettooo> hai
[18:04] <Walex2> ubuntu13: or in '/etc/apt/trusted.gpg' itself
[18:04] <Biafra> Walex2: Umm no they're not
[18:04] <hornettooo> morninag all
[18:05] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Well, I looked, and there's nothing in the former
[18:05] <Walex2> ubuntu13: sudo gpg2 --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg -k | lesss
[18:05] <Biafra> Walex2: Unless you count that they're both browsers
[18:05] <japro> chrome gives me <20% on one core in comparison
[18:05] <hornettooo> can im asking somtnhing
[18:05] <linuxles4> hi
[18:05] <Walex2> ubuntu13: when you are in 'less' look for "437D05B5"
[18:05] <compdoc> hornettooo, yes, Im married
[18:06] <hornettooo> iptables service not started because of error (SVC_RUN_EXCEPT) >> anyone can help ? :(
[18:06] <tyler_d> !ask
[18:06] <tyler_d> oh, my bad :p
[18:06] <Biafra> japro, The only browser that goes above 15% on a single core for me is Firefox. It redlines 2 cores
[18:07] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Yes, it's there, but still 'apt-get update' is giving out the same error : "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5"
[18:07] <tyler_d> hornettooo: did you modify it or install a package that would have modified it?
[18:07] <Walex2> ubuntu13: then delete that entry and readd it as that page said.
[18:07] <hydoskee> is there a way to set a "display" environment variable in an upstart service?
[18:08] <hornettooo> tyler_d, im just installed the package
[18:08] <tyler_d> hornettooo: what package? what version?
[18:08] <theadmin> hydoskee: env DISPLAY=whatever
[18:08] <hornettooo> tyler_d, openvpn for ubuntu server
[18:08] <theadmin> hydoskee: In your .conf
[18:09] <hydoskee> theadmin: I tried that.  I still get a syserror when I run my service and it needs the DISPLAY
[18:09] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Delete /etc/apt/trusted.gpg itself?
[18:09] <theadmin> hydoskee: When does your service start? DISPLAY only makes sense for X related stuff, so you need to make sure it starts after your display manager (e.g. lightdm)
[18:10] <hydoskee> theadmin: well, I haven't booted, I've been doing service myservice restart after everything is up
[18:10] <theadmin> hydoskee: Ah
[18:10] <hydoskee> theadmin: since I've been debugging
[18:10] <tyler_d> hornettooo: how did you determine that iptables weren't running?
[18:10] <theadmin> hydoskee: Try "export" instead of "env"
[18:10] <hydoskee> theadmin: I've tried both
[18:10] <theadmin> hrms.
[18:11] <Walex2> delete it with: no, just that key, instead of '-k' say '--delete-key 437D05B5'; after that 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:11] <hornettooo> tyler_d, when im trying to starts openvpn service,
[18:11] <tyler_d> hornettooo: http://www.linuxtutorial.co.uk/openvpn-iptables-service-not-started-because-of-error-svc_run_except/
[18:11] <tyler_d> hornettooo: try anything like that?
[18:11] <hornettooo> tyler_d, i have
[18:11] <theadmin> hydoskee: What kind of service needs X anyway? What do you intend?
[18:12] <hornettooo> tyler_d, i have follow other tutorial to fix that
[18:12] <tyler_d> hornettooo: I take it your openvpn configuration is attempting to add rules to the tables?
[18:12] <hydoskee> theadmin: http://sbin.submarinerich.com/2d5a2a
[18:12] <tyler_d> hornettooo: is the configuration manual or is it from the openvpn netwrok manager gui?
[18:12] <hydoskee> theadmin: the X thing works when I invoke it either in "screen" and set DISPLAY=:0 via export, or if I just run it in a terminal or ssh on the machine
[18:13] <hydoskee> theadmin: just having trouble working it into upstart
[18:13] <Walex2> ubuntu13: done it? I am about to leave to take a bus...
[18:13] <hornettooo> tyler_d, its from openvpn manager gui
[18:13] <ubuntu13> Walex2, running update... 1 sec
[18:14] <tyler_d> hornettooo: try to invoke a "test" openvpn script that is very generic, work it forward from there.
[18:14] <Walex2> ubuntu13: was that key deleted?
[18:15] <hornettooo> tyler_d, i have do it that, but its not working
[18:15] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Yes. After running apt-get update I'm getting a lot more of those errors: "BADSIG 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012) <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5"
[18:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu13, so it is not a key problem, you need to rebuild the cache like this ? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220&page=5&p=12835850#post12835850
[18:17] <Walex2> OerHeks: I doubt that...
[18:17] <OerHeks> or what did you do to get these untrusted keys, did you try to enable rootpassword?
[18:17] <ubuntu13> OerHeks, Looking up...
[18:17] <theadmin> hydoskee: Hm, well, I'm not sure, sorry.
[18:18] <ubuntu13> OerHeks, Yes, root pass is enabled
[18:18] <theadmin> hydoskee: Maybe you can try writing a bash script that does the job and have Upstart run that?
[18:18] <Sauron1> Anyone have luck with the new Nvidia Maxwell video cards with Ubuntu?  I'm trying to get a GTX750ti to work with Saucy and it's hanging on boot.
[18:18] <hydoskee> theadmin: interesting idea. bash seems happy
[18:18] <OerHeks> ubuntu13, ah, oke. then doing these steps would not solve it.
[18:18] <Voyage> helo
[18:18] <ubuntu13> OerHeks, So what's the verdict? :)
[18:19] <Sauron1> Wondering if I should try trusty.
[18:19] <Walex2> ubuntu13: then do the following before 'update': sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5
[18:19] <OerHeks> ubuntu13, as there is no rootpassword for a reason, ubuntu is build that way
[18:19] <OerHeks> !root
[18:19] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Did that at the very beginning.
[18:19] <Voyage> what is the difference between dvd and cd of ubuntu?
[18:19] <theadmin> Voyage: Err... A DVD is bigger?
[18:20] <Walex2> ubuntu13: do it again as we have deleted what may have been a bad key.
[18:20] <theadmin> Voyage: And slower. Otherwise, essentially nothing.
[18:20] <Voyage> theadmin,  ya, any other diff?
[18:20] <Sauron1> no difference
[18:20] <Sauron1> Both just block devices.
[18:20] <Voyage> sure!!?
[18:20] <theadmin> ...Well, yes. Voyage, the recent Ubuntu versions ship as DVDs because they have just gotten a bit fat :D
[18:20] <Voyage> theadmin,  Sauron1  I heard that the dvd has pre installed codecs etc
[18:21] <theadmin> Voyage: Err, the codecs ship on both the CD and DVD, you choose whether you want to install them yourself though
[18:21] <theadmin> Voyage: You must be confusing Ubuntu and Mint
[18:21] <Sauron1> Hmm...the codecs are installed by themselves...they don't care what device you read the data from.
[18:21] <Walex2> ubuntu13: otherwise just delete the whole of '/etc/apt/trusted.gpg' and reload all keys.
[18:21] <Voyage> theadmin,  Sauron1  ok, I dont have a swap partition, nor I want it. any solution?
[18:22] <theadmin> Voyage: Don't make one, simple as that. Long as you have enough RAM it will work.
[18:22] <Voyage> i heard theres a ramdisk thing
[18:22] <Walex2> ubuntu13: http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/fixing-gpg-keys-in-ubuntu.html
[18:22] <Walex2> ubuntu13: but I am going to take the bus...
[18:22] <Voyage> well, theadmin  isnt swap mandatory?
[18:22] <Sauron1> I don't understand your questions voyage
[18:22] <theadmin> Voyage: No
[18:22] <Tobias92> Alrighty then, I managed to create a kerberized mount (the problem was a combination of the wrong security being selected and idmapd weirdness).
[18:22] <Sauron1> What does codecs have to do with swap?
[18:22] <theadmin> Sauron1: Nothing, unrelated questions :D
[18:22] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Sudo expires a lot frequently, so using su is a bit less annoying. Anyway, I'm now getting that initial "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5" error. So what would be the proper way to delete it? just rm?
[18:23] <ubuntu13> Walex2, OK, bye.
[18:23] <Tobias92> Now for a followup question: I cannot cd into the directory mounted, even though I am the owner (ls -la acknowledges this).
[18:24] <orlando__> hello
[18:24] <theadmin> Tobias92: Is the directory's executable bit set?
[18:24] <theadmin> Tobias92: Try: chmod +x /path/to/directory
[18:24] <Tobias92> theadmin, permissions are 700, so I should be able to enter it, right?
[18:24] <theadmin> Tobias92: Hm, yes.
[18:24] <orlando__> Would someone accept to help me making work my psx emulator ? I would be very grateful !
[18:25] <Tobias92> theadmin, I should mention that accounts in my setup are distributed over nfs. If I log into the NFS server with the same account, I *can* cd into the directory in question
[18:25] <Tobias92> *distributed through LDAP
[18:25] <theadmin> Tobias92: ...oh, now that is confusing
[18:26] <theadmin> I dunno anything about ldap so I'm not going to be able to help
[18:26] <Tobias92> theadmin, thanks nonetheless
[18:26] <orlando__> If someone could help me !!
[18:26] <orlando__> pleaase
[18:27] <orlando__> i would love to have my emulator working
[18:27] <ovrflw0x> has "sound indicator" problem been fixed by now in xubuntu?
[18:27] <bekks> !details | orlando__
[18:27] <orlando__> ok !
[18:27] <Voyage> theadmin,  thanks
[18:28] <odra> Hey
[18:29] <odra> How can I install and use awesome?
[18:29] <odra> (the windows manager)
[18:29] <NBhosting> is mail via sendmail more likely to be recieved as spam?
[18:29] <NBhosting> why is that
[18:30] <sabret00the> Ran firefox from the command line and then found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[18:30] <sabret00the> Have managed to restore unity. Yay!
[18:31] <theadmin> odra: sudo apt-get install awesome
[18:31] <odra> theadmin: I've installed it from the software center but that didn't seem to make any effect.
[18:31] <orlando__> My system is xubuntu, I installed PCSX, I can run the application but when I  want to select a bios, there aren't any choice of bios (I don't know if you inderstand). I re installed PCSX and now I can't even find the file where I have to put the bios (.bin) so I have 2 questions: is there a way to find something on xubuntu (a sort of general research) ? And what can I do to make work PCSX ? Has someone had to make something more a
[18:31] <orlando__> fter the installation to make it work ? My computer is a Eee pc 1015cx
[18:32] <theadmin> odra: You likely need to log out and select the Awesome session on the login screen.
[18:32] <odra> theadmin: I'm want to test some desktops/wms other than unity/compiz
[18:32] <odra> theadmin: It isn't there.
[18:33] <theadmin> odra: Huh. It's supposed to be.
[18:33] <odra> Do I have to install something beside awesome to use it? I don't know much about wms. :s
[18:33] <theadmin> odra: No, that alone should be enough
[18:33] <odra> theadmin: what wm do you use?
[18:34] <theadmin> odra: Eh, I use Unity/Compiz myself, but I tried many others. Awesome isn't one of them, though, but the "awesome" package contains an xsession file so it all should work
[18:34] <Guest12016> can i break the permissions in ssh session which is protect by root
[18:35] <bekks> Guest12016: What does "protected by root" mean in terms of "ssh session"?
[18:35] <Guest12016> the files which are located in /home are having root permission
[18:35] <Guest12016> i have to see those files
[18:36] <Guest12016> chown is not working
[18:36] <odra> theadmin: Do you know any desktops that don't use much space?
[18:36] <orlando__> I'm really hoping someone will tell me things to do !
[18:36] <orlando__> My system is xubuntu, I installed PCSX, I can run the application but when I  want to select a bios, there aren't any choice of bios (I don't know if you inderstand). I re installed PCSX and now I can't even find the file where I have to put the bios (.bin) so I have 2 questions: is there a way to find something on xubuntu (a sort of general research) ? And what can I do to make work PCSX ? Has someone had to make something more a
 fter the installation to make it work ? My computer is a Eee pc 1015cx
[18:36] <bekks> Guest12016: Define "not working" please.
[18:36] <odra> theadmin: I don't like unity because it uses a strip on the left(the launcher) and one on the top.
[18:36] <theadmin> odra: Eh, full DEs? Not really. Stand-alone window managers like awesome? i3 is pretty neat.
[18:37] <theadmin> odra: You may like Xfce, it's a more customizable "classic" desktop
[18:37] <odra> theadmin: I tried gnome too, but that one uses twice as much vertical space :/
[18:37] <Guest12016> can anybody tell me the good tool to analyze the audio steganography
[18:37] <Guest12016> ?
[18:37] <trism> odra: unfortunately I think there is still a bug around where awesome won't show up in lightdm because it has NoDisplay=true in /usr/share/xsessions/awesome.desktop
[18:38] <trism> odra: if you set it to false or remove that line it should be okay
[18:38] <odra> trism: I see, thanks :D
[18:38] <Guest12016> is there anybody to answer my querys
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !patience | Guest12016
[18:39] <Guest12016> can anybody tell me to analyze frequency of a stegano audio
[18:39] <ixio> i want to make a DD image of a LV volume. Do I do this by lvcreate --size 1G --snapshot --name /root/03march /dev/mapper/system_vg-root_lv && dd if=/root/03march of=/backup2/usb/lvbackup.img  ? is that right ?
[18:39] <Guest12016> good tool
[18:39] <Guest17507> Can I ask questions about xubuntu/hdds in general/partitioning here?
[18:39] <xangua> orlando__: you do understand you can not be provided with a bios file from the sotware developers or here right¿ you are on your own;  you don't even need to use a bios to emulate games
[18:41] <orlando__> How can I do without bios to emulate games ?
[18:41] <Diff55> You can't
[18:41] <Diff55> Or you need an emulator that doesn't use bios
[18:41] <Diff55> Most do
[18:41] <orlando__> I don't understant
[18:41] <orlando__> understand*
[18:42] <theadmin> orlando__: You must have a BIOS to emulate the PS
[18:42] <Diff55> I believe XEBRA emulator can emulate the PS without a BIOS file
[18:42] <orlando__> Ok, I have the bios ! (the files .bin)
[18:42] <Diff55> ._.
[18:42] <orlando__> (and it's not illegal, I have the games)
[18:42] <xangua> orlando__: configuration menu>plugins
[18:43] <skittishtrigger> ok, (with ufw disable) I am getting a port (25565) closed issue. (Tried single port forwarding, range, dmz) nothing works (except regular 80, 21 etc. ports) when seting up through router. disconnected router and ran server through modem bridged to obtain public ip address with no port restrictions. still says port is closed. any ideas?
[18:44] <Diff55> I tried to resize a partition that has Windows XP and now I can't mount it and I can't boot up completely from it, either. Is there an easy way to fix it? Or does anything that could point me in the right direction?
[18:44] <Diff55> does anyone have anything that*
[18:45] <orlando__> when I run PCSX, then configuration, there is "plugins and bios", I click and then it proposes me BIOS, but I can't chose any file (bios)
[18:46] <Capprentice> Hi ! what is the best way to get KDE desktop on Ubuntu without breaking anyhing ? I dont want any KDE games. I would like to omit them from selection.
[18:46] <Guest12016> how to save and close vi editor
[18:46] <Guest12016> option
[18:47] <theadmin> Guest12016: :qa!
[18:47] <skittishtrigger> diff read here. something about mbr i think. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:47] <theadmin> Capprentice: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install kubuntu-desktop
[18:47] <theadmin> Capprentice: That will give you the basic working desktop.
[18:47] <Diff55> Thank you skittishtrigger
[18:48] <skittishtrigger> ok, (with ufw disable) I am getting a port (25565) closed issue. (Tried single port forwarding, range, dmz) nothing works (except regular 80, 21 etc. ports) when seting up through router. disconnected router and ran server through modem bridged to obtain public ip address with no port restrictions. still says port is closed. any ideas?
[18:48] <skittishtrigger> oops, sorry bout reask. lol
[18:48] <Capprentice> theadmin, thanks..I will google a bit on "--no-install..." :)
[18:49] <theadmin> Capprentice: Eh, read the manual page on apt-get
[18:49] <ixio> i want to make a DD image of a LV volume. Do I do this by lvcreate --size 1G --snapshot --name /root/03march /dev/mapper/system_vg-root_lv && dd if=/root/03march of=/backup2/usb/lvbackup.img  ? is that right ?
[18:50] <n-iCe> hello, how can I disable the unity effects?
[18:50] <n-iCe> hello, how can I disable the unity effects?
[18:50] <ixio> Guest12016: press escape, : , wq , press return
[18:50] <Guest12016> thanks
[18:50] <theadmin> Guest12016: Warning, :wq will save changes!
[18:50] <Guest12016> best tool for audio steganography
[18:50] <theadmin> Guest12016: If you don't want to save, use :q
[18:50] <ixio> it would be :q!
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D> Hello there, I seem to have my wireless network adapter always stuck on connecting to a single access point, 'attwifi' when I resume from sleep.
[18:51] <orlando__> When I run pcsx from the terminal, then i choose ISO (not BIOS), and then I chose my game (.bin), at the moment I click on it the application gets closed and on the terminal it is written: RGB & YUV not found. Quitting. I don't know what to do  !!!!
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D> This AP is not around and does not even have a profile in th enetwork manager
[18:52] <Pinkamena_D> Pretty much, it does not autoconnect to the wifi networks that actually exist by default, though it will if i leave it for a while and it fails many times connecting to attwifi
[18:52] <Pinkamena_D> how can I remove this profile?
[18:55] <jyg> Hello, I'm trying to make a bootable usb stick with the Startup Disk Creator.  I choose an ISO but it does not show up within the "Source disc image" list.  NEver had this happen before.  I'm using a Mint iso.  (I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 to do this, but not sure I should be asking here or on the mint chanel)
[18:55] <skittishtrigger> you check the md5 of you iso to make sure it wasnt corrupted?
[18:55] <jyg> no, i did not
[18:56] <skittishtrigger> most downloads provide a md5 checksum, might want to compare them fist
[18:56] <theInspector> Hello all! I have a quick question. It might be answered somewhere else, but I couldn't find it anywhere. How can I bind a key to only that one application? Example: If I set Mumble's push to talk key as 'F1' and then open up Chrome, 'F1' will open up Chrome's Help page.
[18:56] <jyg> ok... though how would the utility be aware of any such problems?
[18:56] <skittishtrigger> can anyone point me to the right channel to ask ubuntu port questions?
[18:56] <jyg> there's no error msg
[18:57] <skittishtrigger> if file contents dont match what an iso should provide it might
[18:57] <jyg> 'file' believes its an ISO 9660 CD-ROM...
[18:57] <skittishtrigger> file only believes it because that is what is named. I can rename a .jpg to .iso and it'll think the same
[18:57] <jyg> no, file does not go by name
[18:57] <theadmin> skittishtrigger: That is not true.
[18:57] <jyg> file goes by magic#
[18:58] <jyg> Windows goes by name :)
[18:59] <skittishtrigger> maybe thats only windows systems then
[18:59] <skittishtrigger> what you said. lol. still could be corrupted though
[18:59] <theadmin> skittishtrigger: The "file" utility uses the actual content of the file (the first few bytes, to be precise, the so called "magic") to know what the type is.
[18:59] <orlando_> when I run PCSX, then configuration, there is "plugins and bios", I click and then it proposes me BIOS, but I can't chose any file (bios)
[18:59] <skittishtrigger> I had same issue and redownloaded and it worked fine
[19:00] <skittishtrigger> can anyone point me to the right channel to ask ubuntu port questions?
[19:00] <anduboSS> sunt romani aici?
[19:00] <theadmin> orlando__: Ask their support, this has pretty much nothing to do with Ubuntu
[19:00] <theadmin> !ro | anduboSS
[19:00] <anduboSS> am o dilema
[19:01] <Voyage> how to install truecrypt?
[19:01] <anduboSS> am inceput sa invat programare in windows 8 .am invatat vtreo 2 limbi de progr.
[19:01] <Voyage> dont see it in package manager
[19:01] <theadmin> Voyage: Download from their website and run the installer, there is no official package in the Ubuntu repositories
[19:02] <anduboSS> dar mai multi prieteni mau sfatuit sa invat programare in Linux
[19:02] <Voyage> theadmin,  did that. while i run it. it says, error while loading shared libraries. libgtk..... cannot open share object file: no such file or dir
[19:02] <skittishtrigger> if ufw is disabled in ubuntu, is there anything else that would return a blocked port?
[19:02] <anduboSS> cica e mai bine
[19:02] <theadmin> Voyage: Err. Did you download the right version? You might be trying to use a 32-bit version on a 64-bit Ubuntu install.
[19:02] <jyg> btw md5 checksum checks out
[19:02] <kingplusplus> please how do i create a backup for my ubuntu or even custom live because i do not want to re-install softwares after formating it cos a lot sees i pay by bandwidth
[19:03] <anduboSS> pina la urma care e cea mai buna solutie?
[19:03] <Voyage> theadmin,  no. I selected 64. and my version is 64
[19:03] <bekks> !en | anduboSS
[19:03] <theadmin> Voyage: Well that is an oddity, it worked just fine here
[19:04] <Voyage> theadmin,  I am using kubuntu lts
[19:04] <theadmin> Voyage: Ahh, that might be the problem, TrueCrypt is a GTK app and you may need GTK libraries
[19:04] <skittishtrigger> wierd, out of my leauge. I just created a 12.04 server startup and it worked using creater. you installing to a usb?
[19:04] <jyg> ok so the file is named corerctly, the checksum is fine.  The ISO is good.  But Startup Disk Creator will not include it...
[19:04] <skittishtrigger> league^
[19:04] <Voyage> theadmin,  how do I get those?
[19:05] <theadmin> Voyage: Well, see the exact name of the library it fails to load and then sudo apt-get install libgtk-blahblah
[19:06] <Guest12016> in a ssh session my information is stored in /home/flag1 but they said that any temparary work can be done in /tmp so i wrote the c file with syste("cat /home/flag1") but when running it is telling permission denined
[19:06] <Guest12016> how to solve can anybody tell me
[19:07] <theadmin> Voyage: According to ldd here, you want: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[19:07] <bekks> Guest12016: Then check permissions of that file.
[19:07] <Voyage> theadmin,  k. trying
[19:07] <Guest12016> ls is not working
[19:07] <Guest12016> to check the permissions
[19:08] <jjavaholic> I suspect that my ubuntu machine is not booting cause it is having problems starting some services but I don't know which ones is there an easy way to disable most of the services so I sort this?
[19:08] <Voyage> Guest12016,  use ls -la
[19:08] <bekks> Guest12016: Define "not working".
[19:08] <Guest12016> ls: cannot open directory .: Permission denied
[19:09] <theadmin> jjavaholic: Start in recovery mode, hold Shift while booting and then choose recovery
[19:09] <bekks> Guest12016: whats the command you are running?
[19:09] <Guest12016> so tell me how to see that file
[19:09] <tozen> Guest12016: what u've tried to do??
[19:09] <jjavaholic>  * starting                   [OK] with no service named
[19:10] <jjavaholic> and it kinda just hangs there
[19:11] <tozen> Guest12016: ??
[19:11] <jjavaholic> then what?
[19:11] <jjavaholic> theadmin: then what?
[19:11] <jyg> ah, ran usb-reator-gtk from the cmdline and it complained: Short read on old image"
[19:12] <Voyage> theadmin,  it worked
[19:12] <Guest12016> challenge1:x:1002:1002::/home/challenge1:/bin/bash flag1:x:1003:1003::/home/flag1:/bin/bash <bekks>
[19:12] <theadmin> jjavaholic: Uh, well, that will disable "most services", so just drop to root shell from there and remove whatever is troubling you
[19:12] <theadmin> Voyage: Yay
[19:13] <Guest12016> challenge1:x:1002:1002::/home/challenge1:/bin/bash flag1:x:1003:1003::/home/flag1:/bin/bash the challenge1 has to see the file in flag1 in a ssh session how to see
[19:13] <jjavaholic> I don't know how to do the removing of whatever is troubling or find out which service is troubling me
[19:13] <bekks> Guest12016: What does that line of /etc/passwd has to do with "ls -la /home/flag1"?
[19:14] <bekks> Guest12016: Run "ls -la /home/flag1" and use a pastebin to show us the output.
[19:14] <Guest12016> when i hit the command ls: cannot open directory /home/flag1: Permission denied
[19:14] <kingplusplus> please how do i create a backup for my ubuntu or even custom live because i do not want to re-install softwares after formating it cos a lot sees i pay by bandwidth
[19:14] <bekks> Guest12016: Pastebin the output of: "ls -lha /home/flag1".
[19:15] <bekks> Guest12016: And obviously /home/flag1 is a directory, not a file.
[19:15] <Guest12016> ls: cannot open directory /home/flag1: Permission denied
[19:15] <bekks> Guest12016: So pastebin "ls -la /home".
[19:15] <bekks> !pastebin | Guest12016
[19:15] <Guest12016> ls: cannot open directory /home: Permission denied
[19:16] <jjavaholic> which folder are services kept?
[19:16] <bekks> Guest12016: So pastebin "ls -ld /home".
[19:16] <Guest12016> actually iam in challenge1 user in a ssh session
[19:16] <Guest12016> but i have assined to see the file in flag1 user
[19:16] <Guest12016> for that they  given a file in my dir
[19:17] <bekks> Guest12016: What does that mean? "but i have assined to see the file in flag1 user"
[19:17] <Guest12016> that contain the c file which is having the line cat ~/flag1
[19:17] <bekks> Guest12016: Can you please rephrase and write a full sentence?
[19:17] <Guest12016> i have to find the flag1 in which is located in flag1 user
[19:17] <bekks> Guest12016: And can you finally pastebin "ls -ld /home"?
[19:17] <Guest12016> iam participating in a contest
[19:18] <bekks> Guest12016: And you are seeking help in here?
[19:18] <Guest12016> in that i have to find the flag1 which is located in /home/flag1/flag1
[19:18] <Guest12016> but iam in /home/challenge1
[19:18] <Guest12016> he closed all the doors
[19:19] <Guest12016> bro for the "ls -ld /home"  drwx--x--t 22 root root 4096 Mar  1 10:47 /home
[19:19] <bekks> Guest12016: Well, this is not the channel for seeking contest cheating help. Do you have an actual ubuntu support issue?
[19:20] <Guest12016> ya i have one issue some times my system is going to rebooting the system
[19:20] <Guest12016> with a message critical power
[19:20] <Guest12016> what it means why it is shutdowning always like that
[19:23] <jjavaholic> when I try and run fsck I get a possibly non existent device error
[19:23] <bekks> !details | jjavaholic
[19:24] <kingplusplus> please how do i backup whole ubuntu
[19:24] <jjavaholic> in recovery mode
[19:24] <bekks> !bakup | kingplusplus
[19:24] <bekks> !backup | kingplusplus
[19:24] <bekks> jjavaholic: Please provide the missing information.
[19:25] <jjavaholic> when I try and run fsck I get a possibly non existent device error whilst in recovery mode is this to be expected?
[19:25] <geirha> kingplusplus: In your case, maybe !cloning is what you're after
[19:25] <kingplusplus> !sbackup
[19:25] <kingplusplus> !Universe
[19:26] <geirha> kingplusplus: you can /msg ubottu !things
[19:26] <kingplusplus> ok
[19:50] <NERD420Elite> would anybody know what happened to blackbuntu? why did it die so fast?
[19:50] <bekks> NERD420Elite: We dont know. It wasnt an official derivative.
[19:51] <NERD420Elite> it was such a great operating system though :P
[19:52] <NERD420Elite> loved the fact that I didn't have to resort to the new ubuntu desktop as opposed to Ubuntu Maverick (which I really liked) but is now discontinued :(
[19:55] <Walex2> ubuntu13: did you get the signature right?
[19:56] <mfen> ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to keep google chrome in just one icon in the icon bar
[19:56] <mfen> it has something to do with a mismatch of the app title with the title specified when i have tabs open, i think. they aren't the same string, so unity thinks they are two different apps, so it either doesn't open chrome or it puts it in a separate button
[19:57] <mfen> i've tried unlocking and locking and launching it diretly from the unity button and other things.. even rebooting .. i just want to purge unity's bad config and start over. how do i do that?
[19:57] <ubuntu13> Walex2, No man, was busy  feeding myself and the cats. just returned. Now reading the forums... Will try rebuilding the cache first, before trying deleting the trusted.gpg key
[19:58] <mfen> it keeps putting the title of the button as the title of a tab which isn't even open
[19:58] <mfen> it was open at one point and now, not.
[19:58] <mfen> can't find this string anywhere under .gconf or .config
[19:58] <Walex2> ubuntu13: but the cache is just the cache of the packages, not of the signatures.
[19:59] <Walex2> ubuntu13: also I have 12.04 here and I did all the commands I suggested to you and it all worked; that key was deleted and then reappeared and 'apt-get update' just worked.
[20:00] <Walex2> ubuntu13: an alternative could be to "export" the '/etc/apt/trusted.gpg' keyring and reload it, if it is a bit damaged that should fix it.
[20:00] <mfen> i'm on 13.10.
[20:00] <ubuntu13> Walex2,  What's the command to export ?
[20:01] <Walex2> ubuntu13: something like: gpg2 --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --export /root/trusted.export (I'll check)
[20:03] <tenspeed705> clear
[20:04] <squeakytoy> Can I ask a very newbie question? I know this is childish, but my knowledge is limited. If I were to do apt-get *app* what version would I get? and what happens if i did the same command again?
[20:04] <Walex2> squeakytoy: you can try that out :-)
[20:05] <squeakytoy> I rather not. Since I am very unfamiliar with Linux package managers, I am worried that its super easy to install things, but how does versioning work?
[20:05] <kostkon> squeakytoy, use the software centre
[20:05] <squeakytoy> and that is?
[20:05] <MFen> seriously this is making me insane, someone help
[20:06] <Walex2> squeakytoy: it is really quite safe to do that.
[20:06] <MFen> i just tried unity --reset-icons and that didn't fix it either. as soon as i installed chrome it id it again
[20:06] <MFen> started* chrome
[20:06] <tkeith_> How does Upstart stop a job when I do "service <myjob> stop"? It definitely seems to be doing something other than just killing it, since child process stop too (they don't when I just kill the first one). But what exactly is it doing?
[20:06] <Walex2> MFen: "it"?
[20:06] <Walex2> tkeith_: that's a complicated subject...
[20:07] <MFen> Walex2 i've been asking about google chrome making two icons in the dash
[20:07] <MFen> i click one, it opens the other
[20:07] <MFen> it's not just irritating.. i use hyperkey+number to go to applications. it's my workflow. when it doesn't work i go crazy
[20:07] <Walex2> tkeith_: recent versions of 'upstart' try to figure out the process group tree and try to stop the whole lot.
[20:08] <MFen> you might say "well just lock the other one in the dash instead", but the other one does not actually open the application
[20:08] <Walex2> ubuntu13: I am having a small issue that even with '--no-default-keyring' the command dumps also a lot of other stuff...
[20:08] <MFen> you click it, it glows for a while, nothing happens
[20:09] <MFen> so one button opens chrome, but when chrome opens, i get a second button, with a different title (and that title is completely unrelated to anything that is actually going on in chrome, it's just the name of a random tab that's been gone for about 25 restarts of chrome at this point)
[20:09] <Walex2> MFen: I am not familiar with the dash...
[20:09]  * Walex2 uses Kubuntu really
[20:09] <linuxuz3r> anyone have steam installed
[20:09] <MFen> is anyone familiar enough with the dash to take on this difficult question?
[20:09] <linuxuz3r> whats a good game to play
[20:10] <linuxuz3r> gta 4 tlad is hard to beat
[20:10] <MFen> libreoffice used to do this to me, too. i have no idea what i did to fix that
[20:10] <llutz> tkeith_: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#kill-signal
[20:10] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Should I try deleting the keys from the gui?
[20:10] <tkeith_> Walex2: Ok, so there's no simple kill-like command I can use to replicate its behavior?
[20:12] <Walex2> ubuntu13: we have already deleted the perhaps faulty key...
[20:13] <Walex2> ubuntu13: but then it seemed for you impossible to reload it.
[20:13] <OerHeks> Walex2, his issues are caused by setting a rootpassword.
[20:13] <Susning2> Hi. Any example on application that lets me create two different partitions on a disk that already contains data. I want to keep the existing data on one of the partitions. I would appriciate if there is a GUI alternative.
[20:14] <Walex2> ubuntu13: BTW your '/etc/apt/trusted.gpg'  will only contain public keys of public repos most likely, why don't you put it up somewhere I can download it.
[20:14] <Walex2> OerHeks: 'ubuntu13''s? What has a 'root' password got to do with repo keys? I have set a 'root' password, and still use 'sudo' and it all works.
[20:15] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Sure. In the mean time I'm reading this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/24061
[20:16] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Mr. Bot is wrong. Apparently this is still bugging a lot of people...
[20:17] <Walex2> ubuntu13: according to that bug report you need to clear '/var/lib/lists/', not '/var/cache/apt/'
[20:17] <Walex2> ubuntu13: according to that bug report you need to clear '/var/lib/apt/lists/', not '/var/cache/apt/'
[20:17] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Hmmm. So try that?
[20:17] <Walex2> ubuntu13: that's a totally safe operataion, just do 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*'
[20:18] <Walex2> ubuntu13: because unlike the package cache, the list database contains signed material of course.
[20:18] <Walex2> ubuntu13: or you can just do 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*'
[20:19] <Walex2> ubuntu13: or you can just do 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release.gpg' even more precisely
[20:19] <Walex2> Susning2: thanks for letting has know what you would appreciate :-)
[20:20] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Removed the *Release.gpg. Now update?
[20:20] <Walex2> Susning2: perhaps you would want to clarify your question, describing the current situation as "disk that already contains data" is a bit vague
[20:20] <Walex2> ubuntu13: yes, that would be good
[20:21] <Susning2> Walex2 : :) Of course. Ext3 drive, i want to split it in two. One 200gb part, and the rest, about 800gb as another part. During the process I want to keep all the data on the 800gb partition.
[20:22] <Walex2> Susning2: splitting partitions etc. is not something I recommend, and I dearly hope tha tyou have backups, but what you want is 'gparted'.
[20:23] <Walex2> Susning2: even better, don't do it from the live system, use a PartitionMagic liveCD
[20:23] <Susning2> Walex2: I have backups, several.
[20:24] <Walex2> Susning2: then it is safer and much faster to just repartition and reload from backup.
[20:24] <Susning2> ok.
[20:24] <Susning2> thanks. i'll do so.
[20:24] <Walex2> Susning2: much faster in most cases.
[20:24] <Susning2> thanks
[20:24] <ubuntu13> Walex2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7029522/
[20:24] <Walex2> Susning2: because it will also defreagment the data very well, and 'ext3' becomes a lot slower with time.
[20:25] <Walex2> ubuntu13: your '/etc/apt/sources.list' is wrong, because Sacuy is not archived yet.
[20:25] <majod> can someone explain me the difference between /opt/ and /usr/bin ? i dont get it
[20:26] <Walex2> ubuntu13: just use a better 'sources.list'
[20:26] <Walex2> ubuntu13: that "404  Not Found" seems pretty definitive to me :-)
[20:26] <ubuntu13> Walex2, No idea whatsoever about those... :(
[20:26] <Walex2> ubuntu13: did you upgrade from a very old release?
[20:27] <ubuntu13> Walex2, It's the first time I'm getting this
[20:27] <Diablo3> Flash works on Xubuntu XFCE?
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Walex2, ubuntu13: Isn't it archive.ubuntu.com ?
[20:27] <Walex2> SonikkuAmerica: it does not matter, it is not the right place.
[20:27] <marcolino> majod, /usr/bin has your binaries, you can check using the ls command, while /opt/ was/is used for third party packages or software that is updated by you and not apt
[20:28] <ubuntu13> SonikkuAmerica, I'm just returning what the Terminal displayed
[20:28] <Diablo3> How to make flash work in xubuntu xfce?
[20:28] <Walex2> ubuntu13: edit '/etc/apt/sources.list' to make sure it looks like the one at the end of http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Packages_and_Repositories
[20:28] <majod> marcolino: oh i get it. because only libre office, sublime and spotify are in /opt/ so its because i installed them from .deb manually and not by apt-get ?
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Walex2, ubuntu13: Actually, no, wait: It's supposed to be archive.canonical.com/dists/$CODENAME/Release* or archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/$CODENAME/Release*
[20:28] <marcolino> majod, I find it weird you asking about /opt/ and /usr/bin instead of /opt/ and /usr/local/ (if I am not mistaken)
[20:28] <Walex2> ubuntu13: replace "gb.archive" with your country code.
[20:29] <majod> marcolino: hmm i dont know whats supposed to be /usr/local
[20:29] <Walex2> SonikkuAmerica: yes, that;s a good point, but given that the Wiki has the official 'sources.list' he might as well copy that.
[20:29] <marcolino> majod, not always since you've installed it from .deb it should be picked up by apt, my only question does it make a difference
[20:29] <ubuntu13> Walex2, I'm using the main server and not the country server since it was very slow
[20:30] <majod> marcolino: id like to see some logic on how my applications are installed....on windows i know that i find it in program files for example...here its a surprise
[20:30] <Walex2> ubuntu13: then  use 'gb.archive', so copy the text in that page exactly.
[20:31] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Copy what from what page into what?
[20:32] <Walex2> ubuntu13: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Packages_and_Repositories
[20:32] <rww> ubottu: fhs | majod
[20:32] <Walex2> ubottu sources.list
[20:33] <Walex2> ubuntu13: even more official: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[20:33] <Walex2> ubuntu13: in the former page it is the "Here is a sample sources.list"
[20:34] <majod> rww: thanks...i missed that "package manager" part
[20:41] <marcolino> majod, I would advise you to check online for the the linux directory structure and what, why and when /opt/ is used, that will be of more help to you
[20:41] <xpistos> Can anyone good with regex help me to append "podcast" to the end of my file names? I found my text using [:digit:]{3}$*   but I can't add to the end?
[20:42] <marcolino> quick question, which is more secure streaming music via http using mpd or would it be better to get a php web package?
[20:43] <FuuqUmiist> what is a good calculator that shows the calculations and results history on a tape, and has unit conversion?
[20:49] <ImDave> how can i force format a HD using commamdline?  is there a help page about this?
[20:53] <Pessimist> ImDave, if you're a newbie (which looks like) use a gui tool like gparted. There are tons of tutorial on using it like this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-resize-partitions-with-the-ubuntu-or-gparted-live-cd
[20:55] <OerHeks> !format
[20:55] <ubuntu13> Walex2, The  Sources.list don't appear defective. Would you mind checking it and offer some suggestions please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7029683/
[20:58] <Flatline7> 15:48:31     |    freenode
[21:00] <Joshie5482> Hello
[21:00] <path0gen> Is there anybody in there
[21:00] <path0gen> Just nod if you can hear me
[21:00] <ubuntu13> path0gen, whazzup?
[21:02] <ethang> Hey guys.  My mouse has stopped working partially.  Multiple mice and two computers confirm that all the mouse buttons are working but KDE recognizes no mouse movement except with touchpad
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> ethang  wireless mouse?
  i have tried this ans it wont work   i need to ise command line and force it.   it has been a while since i have done it is all
[21:03] <ethang> MonkeyDust: yes
[21:03] <Pessimist> ImDave, use fdisk/gdisk then
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> ethang  have you tried with normal mouse?
[21:03] <ethang> but a wired one had the same problem
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> a normal mouse*
[21:04] <ethang> optical wired mouse
[21:11] <ethang> Hey guys.  My mouse has stopped working partially.  Multiple mice and two computers confirm that all the mouse buttons are working but KDE recognizes no mouse movement except with touchpad
[21:12] <Pessimist> ethang, dmesg output?
[21:12] <ethang> brb
[21:13] <ubuntu13> Walex2, Replaceed "canonical" with ubuntu in sources.list and now getting the error: "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"
[21:14] <Tobias92> Okay, so I got myself in a pickle here. I'm operating a server that has, for reasons unclear to me, entered some sort of kernel panic. I have no physical access to the machine right now, but I can start minicom and view serial output from a neighbouring server. On minicom, I can see intermittant output from the kernel giving me some sort of stacktrace. It does not appear to respond to sending a break + sysrq code. Does anybody have a suggestion
[21:14] <Tobias92> as to how I could go about fixing this, short from rebooting the machine manually?
 Where can I dind the pertinent information?
[21:15] <FCGreg> Tobias92: That's scary. I don't have a good suggestion besides what you've tried.
[21:16] <Pessimist> ethang, paste the whole output so that whole channel could help you
[21:17] <Umeaboy> Is the 13.10 Ubuntu search function  supposed to be non-working?
[21:17] <Umeaboy> Mine IS.
[21:17] <Umeaboy> Even thou I know thjat some programs are installed I can't get any search hits.
[21:17] <ubuntu13> Walex2, It's late. See you tomorrow...
[21:18] <Umeaboy> They DO show up in Programcentral thou.
[21:18] <FCGreg> Tobias92: You definitely sound like you're at the reboot stage at this point
[21:19] <Pessimist> Umeaboy, what's your ubuntu version?
[21:19] <Tobias92> FCGreg, that's a bummer, because I'll only be able to reach the machine tomorrow afternoon.
[21:19] <Umeaboy> 13.10 as I wrote.
[21:19] <JasonBored> question for those running Ubuntu on a Mac. I tried installing once, and had some issues.. had to reformat my drive. Now, it seems that the culprit is Filevault encryption. In order to install reFit, one can't have Filevault encryption on, correct? Any help would be appreciated.
[21:19] <squeakytoy> hah, i am using a digitalocean VPS, only 512MB RAM. I installed MySQL via apt-get, got it running, but after a restart, mysql is failing due to not having any memory.
[21:20] <FCGreg> Tobias92: Yeah I'm sorry. Based on what you're saying then your out of options with a semi-dead machine and kernel panics spewing out
[21:20] <Tobias92> FCGreg, that's okay, I guess I'll just have to wait
[21:20] <Pessimist> Umeaboy, try writing in terminal: sudo updatedb and try searching again. What happens? What's the output of the command?
[21:21] <OerHeks> JasonBored, that would be correct if i recall, i have a look in the mactel pages
[21:21] <OerHeks> !mac
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: can you pastebin the output of: free -m
[21:22] <JasonBored> Thanks OerHeks - I'll look at that
[21:22] <FCGreg> Tobias92: I assume you don't have some other kind of port access that can give you a terminal? Are any ports responding from the outside?
[21:23] <fommil> hi all, I am keen to install linux on my iMac but I am confused by the boot loaders. Does anybody have any recent experience with the REFIND tool? The ubuntu docs are now quite old and use the deprecated REFIT tool.
[21:24] <gordonjcp> fommil: functionally there's pretty much no difference between refit and refind
[21:24] <ethang> http://pastebin.com/3EMsYL1P
[21:24] <gordonjcp> fommil: both will work, refind is better
[21:24] <squeakytoy> hitsujiTMO, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8183146/temp/freem.png <-- you see anything fun? :<
[21:24] <Umeaboy> Pessimist: I do that from time to time, but this time no error.
[21:24] <Umeaboy> But still the problem exist.
[21:24] <Tobias92> FCGreg, no TCP/IP ports open that I can detect. I guess it's locked down.
[21:24] <Umeaboy> Had to use tty2.
[21:24] <fommil> gordonjcp: there seems to be quite a lot of difference actually... syncing of tables, blessing, etc, it's all changed
[21:25] <gordonjcp> fommil: ultimately you just download and run it
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: thats quite a lot of memory to be using on a basic install. what services are running?
[21:25] <squeakytoy> hitsujiTMO, by default, mysql wants 128mb, but it looks like I only have 70 with the server on
[21:26] <squeakytoy> hitsujiTMO, uhm, not sure how to find that list. will google.
[21:26] <fommil> gordonjcp: it hasn't worked for me. It didn't work at all until I used a dedicated ESP partition, and now I get "unrecognised file system" when I select the EFI linux option.
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: actually, you have 190mb free with the server on
[21:26] <squeakytoy> uhm, how?
[21:26] <Umeaboy> I'll see if I can reproduce this issue in Gnome.
[21:26] <squeakytoy> it says 78-79 no?
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: you look at the +/- buffers/cache to see the actual used memorty
[21:27] <ekh> hello. anyone is familiar with a script that logs the temperature of the cpu and gpu every x seconds/minutes?
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: what exactly have you installed on the server? did you install an xserver?
[21:28] <squeakytoy> hitsujiTMO, i am very new to vps. I have a VPS ubuntu+desktop
[21:28] <squeakytoy> hitsujiTMO, can i aska  question you might know. I just did a service --status-all and saw that mysql was in that list.. does that mean that mysql is running?
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: well, there is your problem. you're running a desktop OS on a server that has only 512mb ram
[21:29] <squeakytoy> :<
[21:29] <squeakytoy> sounds stupid when you put it like that :<
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: + means its running, - means its not, ? means doesn't know
[21:30] <squeakytoy> ah ok
 don't be so hard on yourself
[21:30] <Joshie5482> Hi
[21:30] <ethang> hi
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: if you're running ubuntu(with unity) you really need a minimum of 1gb ram.  but, for a webserver, you shouldn't be running any desktop environment at all
[21:34] <ethang> Hey guys.  My mouse has stopped working partially.  Multiple mice and two computers confirm that all the mouse buttons are working but KDE recognizes no mouse movement except with touchpad
[21:34] <ethang> dmesg: http://pastebin.com/3EMsYL1P
[21:35] <Joshie5482> #bjchat
[21:35] <squeakytoy> ok, thanks all
[21:36] <funkster> I'm going to create a ssh tunnel from my web server to home server, is there a way i can disable shell access and only allow ssh tunnel to be called, would i change to /bin/noshell or?
[21:36] <zalun> what is the best Mac laptop to install Ubuntu on it
[21:37] <zalun> also - what is the best solution for dual boot
[21:37] <zalun> Parallel?
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> zalun: one that works for you
[21:37] <zalun> cost is no issue - company pays
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> !best | zalun
[21:37] <jatt> is there a way to pin a package so it cannot be deleted by sudo apt-get --purge remove?
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> jatt: no
[21:38] <jatt> hitsujiTMO: ok, thanks
[21:38] <zalun> hitsujiTMO: got the idea - let's say I'm using Sony Vaio now which isn't the easiest thing to run Linux on
[21:38] <zalun> but I do have MacBook Air for better compatibility
[21:39] <jjavaholic> How can I best reinstall ubuntu 13.10 without losing previous home files?
[21:39] <gordonjcp> jjavaholic: is /home on a separate partition?
[21:39] <jjavaholic> nope
[21:39] <zalun> and I need want 13" Mac laptop. will Ubuntu work smoothly on MBA and MBPro?
[21:39] <gordonjcp> jjavaholic: you'll need to back up /home onto something then
[21:40] <gordonjcp> jjavaholic: and you'll remember to make that a separate partition next time, won't you?
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> zalun: a mac will typically always be harder to get up and running than a normal pc, but, not impossible. You should choose hardware that suits you.
[21:40] <fommil> zalun: I'm really struggling to get any kind of Linux installed on an iMac
[21:40] <zalun> also - I have no experience on using dual boot on Macs
[21:40] <jjavaholic> I have done it before with other distros
[21:40] <fommil> zalun: their booter is completely different. No BIOS
[21:40] <zalun> what about Parallel?
[21:40] <zalun> this is virtual
[21:40] <gordonjcp> I didn't really find it difficult to install on my macbook atall
[21:40] <gordonjcp> *at all
[21:40] <zalun> machine
[21:40] <gordonjcp> I didn't do anything particularly special
[21:41] <zalun> gordonjcp: what kind?
[21:41] <zalun> cool
[21:41] <gordonjcp> zalun: 3,1
[21:41] <zalun> are you using any additional software? virtualization?
[21:41] <fommil> gordonjcp: should there be any difference between debian and ubuntu when it comes to installing on an iMac? Because I have epically failed to get the booter to work with debian
[21:41] <gordonjcp> zalun: just refind
[21:41] <jjavaholic> I have done the equivolent of this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation before but the 13.10 doesn't make much sense to me
[21:41] <gordonjcp> fommil: shouldn't be
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> zalun: theres actually a seperate iso for macs these days: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[21:42] <gordonjcp> I haven't tried the new iso
[21:42] <fommil> gordonjcp: what boot system were you using? I've heard of refit, refind, efibootmgr, BIOS grub and blessed.
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> zalun: this is for handling the mac efi specific issues
[21:42] <zalun> yes - I took a look, but it's always good to know if something isn;t supported
[21:42] <gordonjcp> fommil: refind
[21:42] <fommil> gordonjcp: you installed it and it "just worked"?
[21:42] <gordonjcp> fommil: pretty much
[21:42] <batw0lf> Ye
[21:42] <gordonjcp> fommil: some cocking around with wifi drivers required, iirc
[21:42] <fommil> gordonjcp: what linux did you install and what did you have to do after to get it to boot into the linux?
[21:42] <gordonjcp> fommil: Ubuntu 12.04
[21:43] <fommil> gordonjcp: and what filesystems did you select?
[21:43] <gordonjcp> I installed it, booted OSX, ran refind
[21:43] <gordonjcp> fommil: ext4
[21:43] <gordonjcp> fommil: it's a perfectly normal install of Ubuntu
[21:43] <gordonjcp> the only thing you need to do is boot OSX and install refind
[21:43] <fommil> gordonjcp: is that ext4 for everything? LVM?
[21:43] <zalun> brilliant - with Linux I will mostly use it for coding, other stuff like multimedia, etc. will stay on OSX side
[21:44] <gordonjcp> zalun: are you using OSX for media stuff?
[21:45] <fommil> gordonjcp: I have /boot as ext2 and /, /home as ext4 on an LVM. Is yours like that?
[21:45] <fommil> gordonjcp: or do you not use LVM?
[21:45] <gordonjcp> I don't have separate /boot or /home on my laptop
[21:45] <gordonjcp> I don't really see the point of LVM on it
[21:46] <fommil> gordonjcp: ok, I think I'll give debian one more go without LVM and use ext4 / and /home
[21:46] <zalun> osx, well - I'm now using raspBMC, but I do use MIDI and some other stuff, no time to tinker with drivers for some external music cards etc.
[21:46] <zalun> I'm also using osx for presentations ... and that would be anything
[21:46] <adamcunnington> Evening all. I just installed the restricted package and it warned me that 2 libcodec things weren't compatible and should be removed but it wasn't clear whether i needed to remove these or whether the installation would do that. Anyone know?
[21:47] <zalun> I prefer tiling window managers
[21:47] <zalun> if these would properly work on a Mac I'd probably use it for work as well
[21:47] <jjavaholic> what does LVM do?
[21:47] <dgarstang> Is there a Ubuntu tool for creating a simple chroot environment? Redhat has jailkit
[21:47] <gordonjcp> zalun: I didn't like tiling WMs in the 80s and I don't like them now
[21:47] <zalun> :)
[21:47] <zalun> i3wm rulez for me
[21:48] <zalun> but I haven't used tiling in 0s
[21:48] <zalun> 80s
[21:48] <zalun> well, I actually used computers (8bit aside) since '91
[21:49] <fommil> jjavaholic: easily resize/merge partitions etc
[21:49] <dgarstang> Is there a Ubuntu tool for creating a simple chroot environment? Redhat has jailkit
[21:50] <zalun> so - I will simply get a MacBookPro or Air and it should work using no additional commercial software?
[21:51] <adamcunnington> is it normal to edit sources.list?
[21:51] <adamcunnington> as suggested here; https://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang: debootstrap ?
[21:52] <jjavaholic> fommil:I have always found standard partitioning to be easy enough
[21:52] <jennie> any solution for this  ? I am facing same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998543
[21:52] <zalun> I still do think parallel would be better as there is no need to reboot to osx and back
[21:52] <zalun> http://www.askdavetaylor.com/install_ubuntu_linux_within_parallels_desktop_on_mac/
[21:52] <fommil> jjavaholic: even if you need to resize?
[21:52] <fommil> jjavaholic: with data in the partitions?
[21:53] <dgarstang> hitsujiTMO: That installs an entire OS. I just need a jailed environment for installing packags for a build process
[21:53] <splanell> can anyone here help with a bluetooth "connectivity" issue is Kubuntu?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang: it installs a minimal environment, not an entire OS. what packages do you need to install?
[21:54] <jjavaholic> by easily you mean on the fly?
[21:55] <adamcunnington> How can I open sources.list in write-mode? It's read only and I need to add a source (spotify)
[21:55] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: That is one way - better practice is to put the "fetches" in /etc/apt/sources.d/ directory.
[21:56] <fommil> jjavaholic: say I have 800G /home and I want to break it up and create a new 50GB for a new OS. can I do that now with ext4?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang: infact, a build env is a fairly standard usecase for debootstrap
[21:56] <basz> why can i (non root) do ' bindfs -n data/mount_root/ data/mount_target/' but not umount data/mount_target/ ? Or how would i umount as non-root?
[21:56] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: sorry this is my second day on linux
[21:56] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: Would I be putting a file into etc/apt/sources.d/ ?
[21:56] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: do so as -> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang: you can also tweak the debootstrap scripts/create your own if necessary
[21:57] <dgarstang> hitsujiTMO: I don't know. those packages will change over time
[21:57] <jjavaholic> fommil:by easily you mean on the fly in a software disk imagey type of way?
[21:57] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: great thanks, what is gksudo?
[21:57] <fommil> jjavaholic: I mean resize the partition, don't corrupt and data on the disc, no need to reboot
[21:57] <dgarstang> hitsujiTMO: I might just use jailkit
[21:57] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: when you meant put the 'fetches' in aetc/apt/sources.list.d/, do you mean create a file like spotify.list and just put the source in there?
[21:59] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: coorect my miss though to be /etc/apt/sources.list.d // gksudo is the graphical equivilent to "sudo" to gain the elevated priviledges to edit system files.
[21:59] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: oh ok
[21:59] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: but can i create spotify.list and put that inside sources.list.d/ ?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: Best practice is 3rd party software sources in that 3rd party directory ( hey, less chance on corrupting that main sources file).
[22:01] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: yea that makes sense but i just need to clarify my understanding of what i need to do. Would i just create a file called spotify.list with the fetch line in there?
[22:03] <splanell> test
[22:03] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: Yeah, for instance google-chrome ->  /etc/apt/sources.list.d -> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  176 Dec 22 10:34 google-chrome.list TBC.
[22:03] <jjavaholic> how does lvm work?
[22:03] <squeakytoy> thanks all for the helpz
[22:03] <yeats> !lvm | jjavaholic
[22:03] <yeats> jjavaholic: did you have a specific question about it?
[22:03] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: wow i'm a bit new! Don't understand that just yet but i've just added deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free to spotify.list - look ok?
[22:04] <sinjax> hi :) I'm having a problem installing libsdl-dev... I try aptitude install libsdl-dev and i get the following error:  http://pastebin.com/W7t5fC0f
[22:04] <sinjax> This look familiar to anyone?
[22:04] <kostkon> adamcunnington, there is a gui for that, it's called software sources or software updates, search for it in the dash, open it then click on the other software tab, then add
[22:04] <_2_> Hi x
[22:04] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: pastebin that file and I will look at it.
[22:05] <yeats> sinjax: is that for teamviewer by chance?
[22:05] <_2_> who wants to chat?
[22:05] <yeats> !ot | _2_
[22:05] <adamcunnington> kostkon: gui for what? spotify?
[22:05] <sinjax> yeats: libsdl? nah its for ...err... the leap motion controller?
[22:05] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, do not add spotify manually, this guide should work http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10 for 13.10 too
[22:05] <sinjax> yeats: but i mean, it's a fairly standard library no?
[22:05] <kostkon> adamcunnington, for adding repositories
[22:06] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: see kostkon input, ..workie great last long time !
[22:06] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: ok i will take a look - i've just installed it manually though. should i remove it? how do i do that?
[22:06] <yeats> sinjax: yeah - I was just asking because I've seen people hit similar errors when trying to install 64-bit teamviewer on ubuntu - don't mind me ;-)
[22:06] <jjavaholic> how does lvm manage my storage devices?
[22:07] <_2_> :)
[22:07] <_2_> (L)
[22:07] <_2_> :D
[22:07] <sinjax> I guess it is because something, somewhere, has installed a "batshit crazy"(tm) version of lib-mesa
[22:08] <sinjax> so now i either have to find a version of libsdl that works with the batshit crazy libmesa
[22:08] <sinjax> OR
[22:08] <sinjax> uninstall libmesa and reinstalll...but frankly that looks like it will set the world on fire
[22:08] <sinjax> so, thoughts? :)
[22:08] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: it looks like that process is exactly the same as i've done manually
[22:08] <yeats> sinjax: are you using a PPA or another out-of-band APT repo?
[22:08] <ethang> Hey guys.  My mouse has stopped working partially.  Multiple mice and two computers confirm that all the mouse buttons are working but KDE recognizes no mouse movement except with touchpad
[22:08] <sinjax> yeats: I believe i am yes
[22:09] <adamcunnington> kostkon: there are 2 software sources one is -kde and the other -gtk, which one do i want?
[22:09] <ethang> dmesg: http://pastebin.com/3EMsYL1P
[22:09] <yeats> sinjax: then you might need to remove the PPAs and see if that fixes the issue
[22:09] <sinjax> for...hmm...spotify.... and nvidia's own drivers....etc...th
[22:09] <sinjax> hmm .... having already got the weird version of libmesa is the damage not done?
[22:09] <adamcunnington> kostkon: scratch that. think i already have the one installed
[22:09] <GivenToCode> why does my upstart process keep respawning even when i specify not to respawn and i've modified the normal exit stanza to include the appropriate exit code
[22:10] <adamcunnington> kostkon: can't seem to find it in my dash though
[22:10] <kostkon> adamcunnington, search in the dash (by pressing the ubuntu logo, first icon in the launcher starting from the top), not the software centre
[22:10] <GivenToCode> this is incredibly annoying
[22:11] <sinjax> yeats: thing is, if i do a:  sudo apt-cache madison libglapi-mesa it would seem the weird ass version of libmesa isn't even available any more
[22:11] <sinjax> is there a way force install the 9.1.7 version without uninstalling everything else in the world that depends on the current libmesa?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: IF you are confident that you have the sources file set up to "get" spotify, find out for sure with ->sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade // see what results.
[22:11] <sinjax> like...a way to hotswap the library or something? :D
[22:12] <yeats> sinjax: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get might help?
[22:13] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: yea, i've got spotify now
[22:13] <adamcunnington> kostkon: this is weird, if i type software sources in the dash, nothing comes up, but it shows as downloaded in the software centre
[22:13] <Bashing-om>  adamcunnington : You do good work !
[22:13] <sudormrf> hey guys! I was wondering if someone could help me out with something.  I have some files that have a bunch of IP addresses that I would like to block with IP tables.  How can I have IP tables look at those files and automatically add the IPs in the files to the block list?
[22:14] <kostkon> adamcunnington, search for "software", it might be called software updates
[22:14] <yeats> kostkon: adamcunnington: software-properties-gtk
[22:15] <energizer> привет ребята есть кто русскоговорящий
[22:15] <yeats> !ru | energizer
[22:15] <adamcunnington> kostkon: fairly sure it's called software sources and nope, only software centre showing up
[22:15] <energizer> txh)
[22:16] <kostkon> adamcunnington, then in the software centre, try selecting edit -> software sources from the menu
[22:16] <yeats> adamcunnington: or type 'software-properties-gtk' in your terminal - either way
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: while read ip; do echo $ip; done < ip_list.txt                             just replace "echo $ip" with whatever to blick that ip with iptables
[22:19] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: would I need to add something like "iptables -A INPUT -s IP-ADDRESS -j DROP" to that?
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: so you could maybe: while read ip; do iptables -A INPUT -s "$ip" -j DROP; done < ip_list.txt
[22:21] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: thanks.  i will give it a shot.
[22:25] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: will that work with a CIDR block as well?
[22:25] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: I just tested it with one IP address and it worked just fine
[22:26] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: I think I have my answer
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: sweet.
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: if -s accepts a CIDR block then it should work
[22:28] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/block-whole-ip-range-with-iptables-469432/ it looks like it does :)
[22:28] <GJPMiningco> I am trying to compile an App that uses TCL and it is telling me it cant find the TCL installation how do i find the Tcl library and header file
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: sweet. should be sorted then
[22:29] <sudormrf> yep :)
[22:29] <dgarstang> Is there a way to install ubuntu packages to an alternate root location?
[22:30] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: testing it now.  the list is pretty long, hoping it goes well.
[22:30] <bekks> dgarstang: Yeah, you can use deboostrap and then install the packages you want to.
[22:30] <Arw0r> heyo
[22:31] <tucemiux> !virtualbox
[22:31] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: just one more question.  what would make that text you gave verbose?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: verbose in what way?
[22:32] <FuuqUmiist> does anyone know of a calculator that includes unit conversions and history tape
[22:33] <adamcunnington> yeats: kostkon thanks
[22:33] <kostkon> adamcunnington, did you manage to install it?
[22:33] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: so I can see what it is doing as it is doing it.
[22:34] <aperture> Hi. I installed ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows 8 without uefi, and then used the repair disc to do bootrec /fixmbr, but when I load windows it still shows startup error
[22:34] <bekks> FuuqUmiist: http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20100129194223103/Calculators.html
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: ahh, echo out the command: while read ip; do echo "iptables -A INPUT -s $ip -j DROP"; iptables -A INPUT -s "$ip" -j DROP; done < ip_list.txt
[22:34] <aperture> Is there something different to do for windows 8 than windows 7 dual boots?
[22:35] <adamcunnington> how does ubuntu software centre differ from what i can access with apt-get install
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> aperson: windows 8 is typically a UEFI setup, windows 7 is typically a BIOS setup
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> aperture: ^
[22:35] <adamcunnington> kostkon: it has been installed the whole time just not accessible from dash for some reason
[22:35] <adamcunnington> kostkon: using edit - software sources
[22:35] <kostkon> adamcunnington, no, i meant spotify
[22:36] <aperture> hitsujiTMO: I've had UEFI disabled from bios before I installed windows 8, and the repair disc does not show the UEFI repair option. How can I fix it if it is UEFI?
[22:36] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: thanks.  perhaps you could take a look at a script that I am using from nixcraft and help me tweak it?  I have the files that I want to use that have this info in them and this script automates what I am trying to do, but it is trying to download block lists, I don't want it to.  if you have a sec, please let me know.
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> aperture: repair in what sense?
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: can you pastebin the script
[22:38] <sudormrf> sure.
[22:38] <aperture> hitsujiTMO: windows 8 when I select it from GRUB says it runs into a startup issue and to use the repair disc
[22:39] <aperture> hitsujiTMO: I clicked "install alongside windows 8" on the ubuntu installer, and ran the fixmbr for windows, but still this message pops up.
[22:39] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7030134/ I am thinking of commenting out line 12 and line 45 to solve the problem.  will that work?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> aperture: i see. you'd have to ask about that issue in ##windows ... i'm unsure of what the exact cause would be
[22:40] <aperture> No problem, I'll check there
[22:40] <aperture> I'd assume it has to deal with ubuntu resizing the windows drive
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: i assume tDB=$ZONEROOT/$c.zone refers to an existing file?
[22:41] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: correct.  the original script downloaded files that were like ro.zone
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: that should be ok to prevent further downloads then
[22:42] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: but because that site is now pretty much defunct I found the same info elsewhere and dropped the ip addresses into those zone files.
[22:42] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: sweet!  going to try it now
[22:42] <tucemiux> anyone knwos of a virtualbox PPA for saucy?\
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> tucemiux: vbox provides .debs https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:43] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: it looks like it is working :)
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | sudormrf
[22:44] <adamcunnington> kostkon: oh yea, happy listening :) thanks
[22:44] <kostkon> adamcunnington, :)
[22:44] <velho> hello friends. is this a support channel?
[22:44] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: LOL NICE!  it is probably going to take a while because this is going to exclude a ton of address space.  BTW, do you happen to know of a site like ipdeny.com that is active?  I found the info elsewhere, but it would be nice if there were a site that maintained an up to date list
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: afraid not. found there is as much damage from false positives from such lists
[22:46] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: good point.
[22:47] <FuuqUmiist> bekks none of those calculators have both unit conversion and history tape
[22:48] <velho> I've made a ubuntu update recently and my compiz windows don't work :(  any help?
[22:50] <adamcunnington> kostkon: would you mind giving me another third party install example?
[22:50] <kostkon> adamcunnington, what do you mean?
[22:50] <adamcunnington> kostkon: i want to install sublime text editor, how should i go about doing this given that it's not in an ubuntu repository / accesible from the software centre
[22:50] <Beldar> velho, What release of ubuntu, and desktop and how have you modified compiz, if you have?
[22:50] <path0gen> adamcunnington: donwload the tarball, then unzip it, then install it from source
[22:50] <majod> adamcunnington: there is step by step on the sublime website
[22:51] <majod> just did it today
[22:51] <kostkon> adamcunnington, just get sublime 3, http://www.sublimetext.com/3
[22:51] <kostkon> adamcunnington, download the ubuntu deb pacakge, then double click on it to isntall it
[22:52] <adamcunnington> kostkon: ok thanks
[22:53] <velho> Beldar, I'm not sure. what's the release. How can I get that info? I'm using a laptop, and I've modified compiz a little bit
[22:54] <adamcunnington> kostkon: i double clicked on the .tar.bz2 file and it opened in file manager, now what?
[22:54] <velho> Beldar, I've installed ubuntu for a wile, and I know it needs some updates
[22:54] <kostkon> adamcunnington, the deb packge, one of these  "ubuntu 32bit" or "ubuntu 64bit"
[22:54] <velho> I would like to know what are the command to update everything, i don't remember... thank you!
[22:54] <usr13> velho: lsb_release -a
[22:55] <usr13> velho: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:55] <Beldar> velho, lsb_release -a
[22:55] <adamcunnington> kostkon: yea, i selected 64 bit and it downloaded a bzipped tarball
[22:55] <Beldar> doh already posted
[22:56] <adamcunnington> kostkon: http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[22:56] <usr13> adamcunnington: So what are you downloading?
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: sublimetext.com/3 has a .deb you can install instead. it will use the sb2 key if you have one
[22:57] <velho> Beldar, Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[22:58] <velho> usr13, thank you :D
[22:58] <usr13> velho: NP,  (Are you getting updates now?)
[22:58] <adamcunnington> hitsujiTMO: i don't have a license key yet but i'd rather download the stable version as i'm new to sublime too
[22:58] <adamcunnington> usr13: sublime 2
[22:59] <adamcunnington> how do i install from a tar gz?
[22:59] <adamcunnington> tar.bz2*
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: the "BETA" is stable
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: most peeps have moved onto it. its only in perpet
[23:00] <usr13> adamcunnington: Well, you'd have to install the build-essential package. You unzip/untar the file, cd to resulting directory, configure, make and then sudo make install.  BUT, you should look for a pre-built package first.
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: its only in beta to encourage peeps to get used to it so they'll upgrade when its goes to release
[23:00] <velho> usr13, nothing updted... maybe because it's already up to date?
[23:01] <usr13> adamcunnington: (Pre-built-package is caled  "deb"  for short because of the file name, it will be some-name.deb)
[23:01] <usr13> velho: If it's already up-to-date, it would say so.
[23:01] <Beldar> velho, number of issues can cause this, for example a proprietary graphic driver and a kernel upgrade, this sound familiar?
[23:02] <velho> Beldar, it sure does sound familiar!
[23:03] <adamcunnington> sorry, i disconnected. How do i install from a .tar.bz2?
[23:03] <Beldar> velho, When using a proprietary driver it is reloaded after a kernel upgrade is all. You can reset unity/compiz but a this does not fix a graphic driver issue.
[23:03] <OerHeks> !tar
[23:04] <usr13> adamcunnington: http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: its only in beta to encourage peeps to get used to it so they'll upgrade when its goes to release
[23:04] <velho> Beldar, so, maybe the problem is the drivers from the graphics card?
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: otherwise use the ppa if you really want to stick with the old version http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/sublime-text-2-ubuntu-ppa.html
[23:05] <Beldar> velho, This a nvidia and your using a proprietary driver?
[23:05] <usr13> adamcunnington: But if there is a ppa, chose that route for sure.
[23:05] <aperture> hitsujiTMO: I found out the Windows 8 dual boot issue
[23:05] <adamcunnington> hitsujiTMO: you'd recommend 3 then?
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: yes. its what i use and is an improvement over 2
[23:06] <aperture> hitsujiTMO: I have two drives, 120gb ssd and 1tb hdd. Windows was on ssd, I hit install alongside windows, and it wiped the ssd, put ubuntu on it, and then in grub it attempts to boot windows from /dev/sdb (1tb drive)
[23:06] <velho> Beldar, I think it's an AMD
[23:06] <adamcunnington> hitsujiTMO: ok thanks
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> aperture: ahh.. interesting oddity
[23:06] <jesus_> hi
[23:07] <aperture> hitsujiTMO: Indeed. I backed up the data, but it's worth filling out a bug report over.
[23:07] <Beldar> velho, lspci in the terminal will identify the hardware, you install fglrx?
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> aperture: not sure. it depends on exactly what happened. as in, if you were installing ubuntu in uefi mode then it wouldn't have actually seen windows which would have caused the issue, and wouldn't be considered a bug
[23:08] <Beldar> velho, I'm not real up on graphics stuff I have always had intel that just work, just phishing for the right data needed here.
[23:09] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: perhaps you could help me with using UFW instead of iptables?  i gave it a quick test over the weekend and lost all connectivity
[23:09] <User4> Question from a current-Mac user: Does Ubuntu provide by default to tag files?
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: ufw is super easy. set your allow rules first. then your deny. then enable it
[23:10] <adamcunnington> how do i uninstall? apt-get remove ?
[23:10] <velho> Beldar, my graphics card is an [AMD/ATI] RV730/M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650/5165]
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[23:11] <velho> Beldar, thank you for the support. I'm gonna restart... sometimes it fixes it :D
[23:11] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: so my question is this.  suppose I allow traffic to a certain port, that wouldn't block ips from scanning/trying to connect to it, so I feel like UFW may not be the right path for me.
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> velho: not supported by fglrx anymore if thats what you are doing
[23:11] <Beldar> velho, Look up reset for 12.04 unity/compiz it is different through releases so be sure it's an 12.04
[23:12] <User4>  Question from a current-Mac user: Does Ubuntu provide by default to tag files?
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: ufw is just a wrapper for iptables. makes things simple for firewall usage
[23:12] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Trying to phish out if fglrx has been used, failed so far. ;)
[23:12] <velho> hipitihop, what's fglrx?
[23:12] <adamcunnington> How do i uninstall an app?
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> velho: fglrx is the proprietary ati driver (the one ati provide)
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: how did you install it?
[23:13] <Daghdha> Has ubuntu a 7unzip or similar client to unzip 7zip files?
[23:13] <xangua> Daghdha: 7zip
[23:14] <velho> hitsujiTMO, so, there is no latest driver for this hardware?
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: p7zip
[23:14] <adamcunnington> hitsujiTMO: using apt-get install
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> velho: theres the latest opensource driver. but not ati provided driver
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> adamcunnington: apt-get remove
[23:14] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: Removing an ap is dependent on how it was installed - apt-get remove is used in cases where the system package manager was used to install.
[23:14] <velho> Beldar, I've just updated Ubuntu. Compiz was working fine... now it's not :(
[23:15] <velho> hitsujiTMO, does the opensource driver updates automatically with the system?
[23:15] <Daghdha> no 7zip on my system.. guess i add it
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> velho: yup
[23:16] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: thanks hitsujiTMO
[23:16] <velho> hitsujiTMO, so, maybe my problem is only with compiz, and not with the drivers?
[23:16] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: do i need to run apt-get remove as sudo?
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> velho: possibly. what exactly is going wrong now?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: yup, (system change requires that authorization ),
[23:17] <Daghdha> holy hell moving window in VNC totally screwed it.
[23:18] <Daghdha> it's just calld 7z
[23:21] <Daghdha> Error cannot use absolute path names with this command when i try ti un7zip
[23:21] <Daghdha> can you only extract 7zip to current folder?
[23:22] <velho> hitsujiTMO, compiz effects do not work
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> velho: what version of ubuntu?
[23:25] <velho> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> velho: try resetting compiz: unity --reset
[23:26] <velho> hitsujiTMO, I've just search on ubuntu's site. this is not the latest version, is it?
[23:26] <basketball> why does my irc client keep showing blank lines
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> velho: thats latest LTS
[23:26] <velho> hitsujiTMO, hmm
[23:27] <Daghdha> for desktop
[23:27] <Daghdha> wish i had some 7zip gui
[23:27] <Daghdha> anyway, thanks hitsujiTMO
[23:27] <Daghdha> and cu :)
[23:29] <hipitihop> velho, did you aim that @ me ?
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> hipitihop: no, that was for me
[23:30] <velho> hitsujiTMO, wow! I think i need to restart this now... i can't change the windows now :\
[23:31] <velho> hipitihop, sorry! I meant to tag hitsujiTMO  instead. sorry for the confusion
[23:32] <velho> hitsujiTMO, brb!
[23:32] <everald> Hi. Is there a way to show the versions of all the dependencies of a particular package?
[23:32] <everald> Like dpkg -s, parsing the Depends etc., then dpkg -l all of those packages.
[23:32] <everald> Without me having to do this work.
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> everald: apt-cache show packagename | grep 'Depends\|Recommends'
[23:34] <everald> hitsujiTMO, I want the actual versions of the libraries that are installed. This doesn't give me that.
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> everald: no, just whats required
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> everald: for that you'd prob have to script
[23:34] <everald> As I said, I'm looking for a way to show it for me.
[23:35] <everald> Without me having to code it up.
[23:35] <everald> reportbug has that code.
[23:35] <everald> I'm hoping I don't have to rip it from there either.
[23:35] <basketball> what haoppened to pear linux
[23:35] <samuraibsd> Does anyone else have issues with the auto-hide launcher in 13.10 not responding to mouse pressure?
[23:36] <basketball> !autohide | samuraibsd
[23:36] <velho> hitsujiTMO, that command ruined all my gui
[23:37] <samuraibsd> You tried to pipe me something, but it didn't show me anything
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> velho: :(    did you tweak compiz?
[23:37] <velho> i did!
[23:37] <velho> hitsujiTMO, i did! is there a way to default it?
[23:37] <hipitihop> velho, np
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> velho: ahh, unity doesn't work well with many tweaks. try http://askubuntu.com/questions/348438/how-can-i-reset-compiz-settings-to-default
[23:42] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: I don't know if UFW is going to do what I want to do.  It is a firewall, but if I am still allowing access to certain ports than these potentially malicious IP addresses would still be able to access via those ports, correct?
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: yes. you may need to issue the specific denies before the generic allow for that port
[23:45] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: hmm.  doing specific allows would become very tedious and would be counter productive.  I just added a metric ton of IP addresses into the IP tables with the DROP flag which makes for some very ugly IPTables.
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: eitherway its going to have the same results. ufw is simply an iptables wrapper
[23:46] <velho> hitsujiTMO, usr13 Beldar  thank's for all the support, virtual friends :D cheer's and have a nice life
[23:46] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: yeah.  do you know of anything more dynamic?  I tried pgl, but that really blocked every single bit of traffic.  I am looking at fail2ban right now.
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: fail2ban again does the same thing, but would be more dynamic. it reads logs and enacts iptables bans based on bad log entries
[23:51] <midstream> :)
[23:55] <usr13> adamcunnington
[23:56] <usr13> adamcunnington, you still there?
[23:56] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO: thanks.  I will have a look.
[23:56] <GoldStandard> is there a free alternative to iwlwifi firmware?