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ahoneybunovidiu-florin, you on?00:20
valorieahoneybun: I like the outline with eyes, but prefer the spacing to be wider, like you had with the cut-off head01:45
valoriewhich I agree was creepy01:46
valoriereminds me of that game like polo that afghani men play with the body of a goat01:46
ahoneybunvalorie, http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/01:55
ahoneybunvalorie, like this http://imgur.com/2mRedtA?01:56
valorieI like the head over to the left more02:30
valorieas you had the "real" head02:30
valorieI like that feature tour02:32
ahoneybunsee doctor who in it02:34
ahoneybunhttp://imgur.com/ifYr1Ik02:37
valorieum, what are the dots, and moon?02:38
ahoneybunsome mhall119 suggested02:38
valorieyes, loved seeing the Doctor and Clara02:38
ahoneybunsimiliar to kde.org02:39
valoriebut those on kde.org are subtle, and blurred02:39
mhall119ahoneybun: imgur is being slow :(02:42
mhall119ahoneybun: I was thinking something like the lighter-shaded concentric circles behind the "Get Kubuntu" icon on http://www.kubuntu.org/02:44
mhall119so just a couple shades lighter blue than your background02:45
mhall119either that or the layered gradients behind the main banner just above it02:45
mhall119something to give it a "Kubuntu" branch feel02:45
mhall119s/branch/brand/02:49
kubotumhall119 meant: "something to give it a "Kubuntu" brand feel"02:49
mhall119only took me 4 minutes to realize I typed the wrong word :)02:49
mhall119also, what a fantastic bot02:49
valorieI think he is open source02:52
* mhall119 has enough projects already :)03:05
ahoneybunvalorie, I was also in the Ubuntu Documention Day03:31
ahoneybunhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/02/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t16:0203:31
valorienice, ahoneybun!05:51
* valorie just finished upgrading the main laptop to 14.04 beta05:51
valorieso far, so good05:52
valorieI think the font in konvi changed05:52
valoriecool, oxygen mono now05:53
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: I am now. I'm in GMT+2.08:34
ovidiu-florinsorry UTC+208:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: amarok done09:19
apacheloggerI really do wonder whether we'll want to shoot for kontact at this time09:20
apacheloggerit's just so massive09:20
Riddellshoot for kontact?09:20
Riddellapachelogger: what's done with amarok?09:20
apacheloggerRiddell: manual smoke test case09:23
apacheloggerhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lzQdkpqU3Cc_lhsN2ibnB8fKfOgAq_gV6vc3PLvGSbQ/viewform09:23
Riddellsmoking!09:26
RiddellMirv: what's the status of qt 5.2 in ubuntu?09:34
MirvRiddell: landing via the CI Train process, fixing rebuild problems one after another. the path seems quite clear, not sure yet if ready to copy on Thursday or later.09:35
MirvRiddell: the process means there's a PPA (https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-006) where landing of Qt + all rebuilds happens which is then copied to the archives09:36
Mirvthe progress is at http://pad.ubuntu.com/qt52-dependencies09:36
Riddellgosh sounds complex, good luck :)09:36
MirvI've now rebuilt ~everything in another PPA too, and the known rebuild problems (like gtk-doc gotten uploaded) should have fixes today09:37
Mirvpretty complex, yes :) I've a good feeling now, though.09:37
Riddellgive me a ping if you need anything passed through New09:37
Mirvsure, I'll if there's a need and no other archive admin visible right away09:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: all done except for kontact (might be too big for now), driver-manager (plz write a test) and touchpad-kde (plz write a test)09:50
apacheloggergoing to prep announcements09:50
apacheloggeroh, I guess we'll need an overview page09:51
* apachelogger shivers because of the html09:51
* apachelogger writes some marshalling code10:49
apacheloggerand then I got myself confused again 6^11:02
BluesKajHey folks11:54
* Riddell onto calligra11:57
sgclarkRiddell: what does orange mean? Do I need to do something with these?12:28
Riddellsgclark: it means something is up and needs investigating12:40
Riddellsgclark: which are you looking at?12:40
sgclarkRiddell: karchive, I will look through log12:40
Riddellsgclark: click show/hide on karchive on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.97.0_trusty.html12:41
Riddellsgclark: it highlights a warning in the cmake output but it's not anything important so that can be ignored12:42
Riddellshadeslayer: you looking at 4.12.3 in precise?12:54
sgclarkRiddell: I just sent you and email, I am still not convinced with the symbols files12:57
Riddellsgclark: do whatever takes the least time12:58
sgclarkRiddell: thanks!12:59
Riddellsgclark: once the library gets a final release then we want to update the symbols files and is there's any missing symbols we want to work out if that makes it binary incompatible and things need changed12:59
Riddellsgclark: but for now we're just preparing the packaging so do whatever is quickest12:59
sgclarkRiddell: thank you13:00
sgclarkRiddell: kcoreaddons ready13:14
Riddellyay!13:15
sgclarkRiddell: kglobalaccel ready13:31
Riddellsgclark: try to not change the version number and UNRELEASED target in debian/changelog13:32
sgclarkRiddell: I am only adding entry below your initial release13:33
sgclarkRiddell: wwell at least that is my intention, dch may have done otherwise13:34
Riddellsgclark: yeah this is in the diff13:34
Riddell-kglobalaccel (4.97.0-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium13:34
Riddell+kglobalaccel (4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa3) trusty; urgency=medium13:34
sgclarkdch weirdness, the problem is it keeps wanting to create an entirely new entry, and I knwo that is wrong so I have just removed that and placed an entry below yours in brackets, I need to put unreleased in there as well or?13:37
sgclarkRiddell: ^13:37
apacheloggersgclark: how do you call dch?13:38
apacheloggerwhat arguments13:38
sgclarkno arguements per Riddell13:38
apacheloggeroh, you might want to use dch -a (to add a change) or dch -e (to edit without any addition)13:39
sgclarkapachelogger: ok thanks I will try that13:39
Riddellsgclark: uploaded both BTW13:49
sgclarkty, so kimageformats, that i386 test fail, patch to disable?13:50
Riddellsgclark: yeah13:50
sgclarkok13:50
Riddellmaybe I already did if you look in the bzr history13:50
sgclarkhow do I do that?13:51
Riddellor maybe not13:51
Riddellbzr log13:51
Riddellnothing in there so I must be imagingin it13:51
Riddellpatch it out and send the patch upstream for notification13:51
sgclarknp, I found it in code, should be simple13:52
sgclarkRiddell: reported, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331735 first bug report from scratch , hopefully done right, some fields did not give me any options14:02
ubottuKDE bug 331735 in general "New release build 4.97.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:02
* apachelogger doesn't know what to write in the testing blog post :/14:04
apacheloggerRiddell: does the wiki move have council approval yet?14:05
philwyettNeeds some love by someone with a little more time than myself. kdepim bug #128359614:08
ubottubug 1283596 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "'Export Kmail Data' function missing dep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128359614:09
apacheloggerwontfix14:10
apacheloggerwe don't have space for mysql-client on the ISO14:10
apacheloggerRiddell: btw, did you take a look at kolourpaint yet?14:11
sgclarkRiddell: kimageformats ready14:17
philwyettapachelogger: Good to know. Can the message when running the app be made more user friendly for those who are not experienced in finding which packages supply a specific binary?14:17
apacheloggerphilwyett: yes, no, maybe, IMHO this should be handled upstream somehow14:18
philwyettapachelogger: Yeah. Will add to to-do list to push it upstream later on.14:19
apacheloggerwhat I am saying is: that would be a string change, and I'd rather not meedle with strings unless absolutely necessary14:20
Riddellapachelogger: wiki move I think go for it, nobody has said no14:20
apacheloggerand this particular example does not seem very necessary as upstream could easily make it so that distributions can define a package rather than the actual binary for example14:20
apacheloggerRiddell: ok14:21
philwyettapachelogger: Indeed.14:21
Riddellsgclark: added a better subject line and a comment to the bug report14:22
sgclarkRiddell: thanks14:23
Riddellapachelogger: kolourpaint is no krita, it has a stupid name and could do with some automated install on the scanner plugin, but if we have to throw out krita it'll do14:26
apacheloggerRiddell: well that's the thing, I am not sure there is use case to be had here at all14:27
apacheloggerthere's pixmap editing for which kolourpaint is too dumb, but everything else is too advanced (i.e. the use case itself is very specific)14:28
apacheloggerthen there's drawing random stuff for which kolourpaint ought to be sufficient, but who randomly draws crappy pixmaps (the kind that one probably would not consider art)14:28
apacheloggerthen there's random photo manipulation which ought to be a very common use case, and those are mostly covered by gwenview (again, except for advanced pixmap editing a la photoshop)14:29
Riddellsgclark: kimageformats uploaded14:34
Riddellsgclark: when adding a patch put the name of the patch in the changelog, that way you can easily search for it14:34
Riddellsgclark: oh I also renamed the patch to kubuntu_disable-test-breaks-i386.diff which makes it clear it came from us and not upstream or debian14:35
sgclarkRiddell: ok14:36
sgclarkRiddell: kwindowsystem ready14:41
Riddellawooga14:42
sgclarkRiddell: is that runtime depend in solid something I need to add?14:43
Riddellsgclark: which?14:43
sgclarkRiddell: mediaplayerinfo, causing the orange14:43
Riddellsgclark: make sure it's in the .deb package depends in debian/control14:44
sgclarkk14:44
Riddellsgclark: and you can add an exception in the automation scripts if you want the orange to go away14:44
Riddelllp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation14:44
Riddelledit cmake-ignore.json14:45
apacheloggersomeone should make a project for that at some point xD14:45
Riddellsgclark: but I had a request from debian about solid14:45
Riddell    12:56 < avolkov> Riddell: libkf5solid5 contains contains libsolidextensionplugin.so14:45
Riddell    12:57 < avolkov> Riddell: it would be better to move it to separate package (qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-plugin)14:45
sgclarkRiddell: ok, want me to do that?14:46
Riddellsgclark: yeah would be lovely if you could14:47
sgclarkRiddell: sure thing :)14:47
Riddellsgclark: but call it qtdeclarative5-kf5solid5.014:49
sgclarkok14:49
* apachelogger falls off chair14:52
sgclarkRiddell: solid already has Suggests: media-player-info [linux-any], shouldn't that be good enough?14:56
Riddellsgclark: yep14:58
* apachelogger looks at trello, sighs, cries15:22
philwyettapachelogger: A thought. As a alternative to changing kdepim in any way for bug #1283596. Could we add something in the release notes so folks can be informed to install the package if they wish to use the feature? Lets see who actually reads the release notes. :-)15:28
ubottubug 1283596 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "'Export Kmail Data' function missing dep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128359615:28
sgclarkRiddell: solid ready15:28
apacheloggerphilwyett: that can be done15:29
douglcan I bug you folks... I need something to cheer me up, 'plymouth' is not working yet is it? 15:30
* dougl is loving all the work going into 14.04 cannot wait - good job ladies and gents!!!15:30
Riddelldougl: plymouth our boot splash has been working for years15:31
Riddellsgclark: uploaded!15:31
douglRiddell, yes I know but does it work in 14.04 yet - I love it :) 13.04 sunrise animation looks awesome...15:32
Riddelldougl: sure, nothing has changed in it15:33
douglRiddell, I'll check once more but I am pretty sure it is not working15:34
Riddell15:38 < sebas> We have Alpha1 of Plasma Next planned next week15:39
Riddellgolly15:39
sgclarkRiddell: cool, is that something I can help with?15:51
Riddellsgclark: yes I hope so15:51
Riddellsgclark: it'll be the first user of kf5 :)15:52
sgclarkRiddell: yay! I would love to work on that then15:52
Riddellsgclark: expect lots of breakage :)15:53
sgclarkRiddell: I was here Saturday, but unfamiliar with depot process15:53
sgclarkRiddell: I thrive on working out kinks!15:53
Riddellmore fun, it's probably not co-installable with plasma 1 so you might have to uninstall large parts of kde to work on it15:53
Riddellsgclark: you know ssh and scp?15:54
sgclarkRiddell: yep!15:54
Riddellsgclark: ssh depot.kde.org and look in unstable/frameworks to see what's there15:56
Riddellscp depot.kde.org:unstable/frameworks/4.97.0/*xz .15:56
Riddellwill download them to your computer15:56
sgclarkPermission denied (publickey).15:57
Riddellssh ftpubuntu@depot.kde.org15:57
Riddellsgclark: forgot the username15:57
sgclarkyay! that worked thanks :)15:58
Riddellfor the mass change of soname I used manual bash for loops15:59
Riddelland some python scripting16:00
douglRiddell, chit chat re plymouth?16:20
Riddelldougl: what what?16:21
sgclarkRiddell: kconfig ready16:21
Riddellgosh, no interlingua translations for calligra 2.816:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: around?16:22
douglare you sure it is supposed to be working... I know it has always worked but someone in here said it did not and now you are saying it does... just was hoping we could all get on the same page.16:22
Riddelldougl: it works for me in beta 1 when rebooting16:22
Riddellsgclark: uploaded!16:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: no16:23
shadeslayerok16:23
philwyettRiddell: Calligra 2.8.0-0ubuntu1 trusty upload 'patckages'? :-D16:24
* shadeslayer goes off to find doko16:24
Riddellphilwyett: where?16:27
philwyett'* Add kritasketch and kritagemini patckages' the changelog16:27
Riddelloh hmm well, you know what I mean :)16:28
philwyett:-)16:28
philwyettA package update is good. A patch is good. Both is fantastic. Certainly the Kubuntu way. :-)16:29
philwyettTime I tried the mesa 10.1 RC 3 update of today. Lets see if it fixes the lockups and crashers that did not exist on Kubuntu 14.04 before 10.1 RC's appeared.16:32
shadeslayerRiddell: re 4.12.3 in precise no, because Trusty isn't finished yet16:39
shadeslayerwe're blocking on kdepimlibs16:39
Riddellshadeslayer: are those symbols missing?16:42
shadeslayerRiddell: yes16:42
shadeslayerbeen missing in 4.12.2 as well16:42
Riddellshadeslayer: mm yes, try pinging doko?16:43
Riddellah not on channel16:43
Riddellhmm16:43
Riddellshadeslayer: what did debian do? i see they have 4.12.2 in experimental16:44
shadeslayerlooking16:46
shadeslayer*cringe*16:47
Riddell?16:47
shadeslayer# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4:4.11.5 alpha armhf hppa powerpcspe s390x x3216:48
Riddellyum16:48
sgclarkRiddell: I am still having wierd dependency issues with kconfig and can't seem to sort this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033883/16:49
shadeslayerwell, they have  (optional=gccinternal|arch=alpha armel armhf hppa mips mipsel s390x sparc)_ZN5KMime5Types8AddrSpecC1Ev@Base 4:4.11.516:49
Riddellshadeslayer: how does that relate to us?16:50
shadeslayerwe don't :)16:50
Riddellsgclark: what are you trying to install?16:51
sgclarkRiddell: kcompletion requires libkf5config-dev libkf5widgetsaddons-dev16:51
Riddellsgclark: installs fine for me16:53
Riddellsgclark: what if you   apt-get remove libkf5configgui5 libkf5configcore5 libkf5widgetsaddons5 ?16:53
sgclarkRiddell: that did it, thanks16:55
soeehi :) so only 2 packages blocking 14.2.3 for trusty ?16:56
soee*416:56
sgclarkRiddell: kcompletion ready17:10
sgclarkRiddell: do you know if polkit-qt5 is available yet?17:12
shadeslayerRiddell: hm, so we /could/ just drop it since we should have marked it as internal/optional at first17:13
Riddellshadeslayer: go for it17:14
Riddellsgclark: nobody knows, there is a qt5 branch in git which might work but overlaps with the current version, and there's a patch for another qt5 port17:14
sgclarkRiddell: ok, so leave kauth as is? It is orange due to missing recommend of that17:15
sgclarkRiddell: A repsonse on my bug asking for the data files, since it was a server build I do not have them.17:15
Riddellsgclark: yes leave kauth as it is, we'll get to it when upstream has something for us17:17
sgclarkRiddell: ok, can you assist with the data files they need for my https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33173517:18
ubottuKDE bug 331735 in general "kimageformats-read-jp2 fails on i386 (but not amd64)" [Normal,Unconfirmed]17:18
Riddellsgclark: yeah will do17:19
sgclarkty17:19
sgclarkRiddell: kdnssd-framework: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7034127/17:38
Riddelllet's look17:40
Riddellsgclark: kde4libs build-depends on libavahi-common-dev17:40
sgclarkok17:40
sgclarkRiddell: kdnssd-framework ready17:46
Riddellyay :)17:47
Riddelluploaded17:48
Riddellsgclark: still KI18n from tier 1 to fix17:49
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sgclarkRiddell: I created new symbols for this one but new error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7034260/18:05
Riddellsgclark: for the other .so file18:06
sgclarkahh18:06
Riddellsgclark: you'll need to move the symbols file out the way, make a new one for that .so file, manually merge them18:06
sgclarkok18:07
shadeslayercould someone test 4.12.3 from ninjas?18:07
Riddellshadeslayer: what did you conclude on kdepimlibs?18:08
shadeslayerRiddell: symbols can be dropped18:08
shadeslayertalked to Debian folks18:08
Riddellgcc change?18:09
shadeslayerthey think so18:09
shadeslayerit could change again18:09
Riddellspooky18:10
shadeslayervery18:10
tester56when will kde applications 4.13 be available for testing in trusty?18:12
shadeslayerwhen it's released?18:13
Riddellwhen it exists18:13
tester56should be tomorrow ..., but I am asking if there has been already some preparation going on18:13
shadeslayernope, no tarballs that I know of18:13
tester56oh okay ..., but it's planned to land in trusty if nothing goes wrong?18:14
shadeslayeryep18:14
Riddellthat's the hope18:14
tester56Riddell: Are you using akonadi/kmail?18:15
Riddellnot apart from some testing18:16
sgclarkRiddell: ki18n ready18:16
Riddellwhee18:17
tester56Riddell, just curious, what do you use?18:17
Riddelltester56: mutt and exim4 on debian stable seems to be18:18
Riddellhmm no, debian sarge18:18
lordievaderKDE is niet bepaald klein te noemen ;)18:19
Riddellsgclark: uploaded!18:19
Riddelllordievader: ja?18:19
lordievaderErr that should go to some other channel...18:20
sgclarkRiddell: kdoctools ready18:31
Riddelluploaded!18:35
windowshi to all 18:39
Riddellhi windows 18:39
windowsany way to make web cam like motion detection video or audio18:39
windowsrecorder under 18:39
windowskubuntu 13.1018:40
Riddellwindows: support in #kubuntu18:40
windowswith guvcvieew or cheese but cheese its stuck every time18:40
windowsok 18:40
windowsil try18:40
Riddellshadeslayer: installing 4.12.318:43
shadeslayerthx18:43
Riddellwaa it's removing all my kde packages, no idea why18:50
shadeslayerohohoh18:50
shadeslayerRiddell: enable proposed18:50
* Riddell should have read the apt output more closely18:50
shadeslayerRiddell: https://www.crowdtilt.com/campaigns/working-on-it/description18:51
Riddell18:50 < lisandro> +1 for qtdeclarative5-[module]-[version]18:51
Riddellsgclark: seems like solid could do with another package rename for an extra dash18:51
sgclarkRiddell: ok18:52
Riddellshadeslayer: mm, somehow I don't think I'll sponsor that18:53
shadeslayerRiddell: huh?18:53
shadeslayeroh18:53
shadeslayerthe crowdtilt thing18:53
Peace-Riddell: hi , have you tried to download a torrent with magnet ? ktorrent has a little bug in the desktop file 18:55
Peace-if you try to open a magnet link it doesn't do anything on kubuntu 18:55
Riddellnope not tried that18:55
Peace-anyway the fix it's very easy 18:56
Riddellwhat is it?18:56
Peace-Riddell: https://nowardev.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/kubuntu-ktorrent-magnet/ 18:57
shadeslayerneeds upstreaming18:57
Peace-MimeType=application/x-bittorrent;application/x-torrent;x-scheme-handler/magnet;18:57
Peace-in the original stuff we got 18:57
Peace-MimeType=application/x-bittorrent;application/x-torrent;18:57
Peace-Riddell: do you want i open a bug report?18:58
RiddellPeace-: if you send it upstream I'll apply it to our package18:58
Riddellalthough I don't know how active the ktorrent upstream is18:59
Riddellor even how you contact them18:59
Peace-Riddell: let me try 18:59
Riddellphilwyett: I don't know of anyone who uses juk!19:04
shadeslayer^^19:07
shadeslayerI doubt it's even actively maintained19:07
shadeslayerRiddell: actually, I think aseigo uses Juk19:07
rdieterPeace-: I use this, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ktorrent.git/tree/ktorrent-4.2.0-mimetype_magnet.patch  (I'm pretty sure I posted it on their forums, but it's been awhile and I didn't document it, my bad)19:08
Peace-juk ?19:08
Peace-omg 19:09
philwyettRiddell: I do on a system. But it's only been a recent thing.19:09
Peace-rdieter: i have already solved mimetype problem but thank you 19:09
sgclarkRiddell: kcompletion still needs upload19:09
rdieterPeace-: you need to omit the legacy magnet.protocol bit too, mind you19:09
Peace-rdieter: let me see 19:10
shadeslayerrdieter: why isn't that upstream :P19:10
rdietershadeslayer: like I said, I vaguely recall posting it to their developer forum at the time19:11
rdieterbut I dont think it got any reply19:11
shadeslayerrdieter: does that make it work with firefox btw?19:11
rdieterit should, yes19:11
shadeslayerwoot19:12
rdieterI guess it's all in kde infrastructure now, I have no excuse for not retrying on reviewboard or via a bug or whatever.  again, my bad19:12
Riddellis it?19:12
Riddelloh interesting, so it is https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent19:13
shadeslayeryeah 19:13
RiddellPeace-: there you go, just file a bug on bugs.kde.org19:13
shadeslayeror open a RB request19:13
sgclarkRiddell: solid ready19:13
RiddellPeace-: kde bug 31431819:14
ubottuKDE bug 314318 in general "when clicking a magnet link nothing happens" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31431819:14
Peace-Riddell: ah shit 19:14
RiddellPeace-: add rdieter's patch to that19:15
RiddellPeace-: why curse?19:15
Peace-:D i did not see that bug Riddell19:15
Peace-done19:17
Riddellsgclark: convention is to use * for each line of a changelog and - for 2nd level bullet points19:17
RiddellPeace-: rdieter: rocking inter-team work19:18
Riddellsgclark: solid and kcompletion uploaded!19:18
Peace-:) 19:20
Riddellshadeslayer: 4.12.3 all good once -proposed is enabled19:20
shadeslayeryippie19:20
shadeslayerRiddell: I'll upload then19:21
Riddellsgclark: I'm about to wander out for the evening, if you have any more great work try poking shadeslayer 19:21
shadeslayeryeah, I'm around for another 4-5 hours :)19:21
sgclarkRiddell: ok, have a great night :)19:22
soee4.12.3 ready for tests ?19:29
shadeslayersoee: yeah19:29
shadeslayerninjas19:29
shadeslayerthough I'll be uploading it sson19:30
shadeslayer*soon19:30
soeeso shall i wait ?19:30
sgclarkshadeslayer: kconfigwidgets ready19:31
shadeslayersgclark: plz push everything, I'll upload it in one go19:31
shadeslayerunless each one of the frameworks is blocking :(19:31
sgclarkshadeslayer: correct19:31
shadeslayersigh19:31
shadeslayersgclark: even doing all tier X frameworks together doesn't work?19:32
shadeslayerso for eg. you push all tier 2 frameworks to bzr19:32
shadeslayerand then I upload19:32
sgclarkshadeslayer starting with t2 there are interdependencies. I can just wait till tomorrow19:33
shadeslayernah it's alright19:33
* shadeslayer is pondering why kamera wasn't updated19:33
shadeslayersgclark: no debian watch file19:36
shadeslayerplz add19:36
sgclarkshadeslayer: hmm this is wierd watch is missing on a bunch, I have no idea why.. will investigate19:43
shadeslayerthx19:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: Kubuntu Driver Manager and KDE Touchpad smoke tests done19:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: KDE Touchpad has too many settings tbh and I've noted the ones that matter the most to Kubuntu19:50
sgclarkshadeslayer: kconfigwidgets, kconfig, kcompletion, kdnssd-framework all need repush, added back watch files.20:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: we don't want to test everything20:14
apacheloggerwe want to test core abilities of an application20:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: aye20:16
shadeslayerthen it's done20:16
shadeslayersgclark: all up20:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: can I have a spaceship now20:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: do you have a license?20:24
shadeslayeryep20:24
shadeslayerfooey20:58
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger plz upload libkomparediff2 and kwalletmanager20:58
shadeslayerthe latter is a new source20:58
sgclarkshadeslayer: kservice ready20:59
shadeslayersgclark: useful info to provide next time, what ~ppa version the package in the ppa is21:02
shadeslayerso like kservice is at 321:02
sgclarksure21:02
shadeslayerthanks alot21:02
shadeslayermakes my job alot easier21:03
shadeslayersgclark: btw are you manually running sed on the symbols?21:03
shadeslayerbecause that last change looks wrong21:03
sgclarkshadeslayer: no I use pkgkde-gensymbols21:04
sgclarkpkgkde-symbolshelper21:04
shadeslayersgclark: and the build log shows all of those as new symbols?21:04
sgclarkbuild log?21:04
shadeslayersgclark: yep, how else do you run pkgkde-symbolshelper21:05
shadeslayeryou generate the symbols file once, and then you keep updating it by passing the build log to pkgkde-symbolshelper21:05
shadeslayersgclark: so how are you updating the symbols then :)21:09
ahoneybun_ hwllo all21:09
sgclarkshadeslayer, ok Riddell tried to explain that to me and clearly I am having a learning curve moment. I had issues with Missing: blah blah, so was recreating from .so files, I think I understand now..21:10
sgclarkshadeslayer: I will give it an attempt21:10
sgclarkhi ahoneybun_21:10
shadeslayersgclark: well, I'd recommend reading the excellent page on the Debian KDE site21:10
shadeslayersgclark: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html21:11
windowskubuntu I think it will be nice if there was app for sync privete phone - pc   ---- whole mobile on your PC just with linux XD21:11
sgclarkshadeslayer: right, but my knowledge is not strong enough to determine if it is safe to remove. I will try to wrap my head around this tomorrow, my brain is mush, been at this since 4am.21:12
shadeslayersgclark: I'd recommend some sleep ;)21:13
shadeslayersgclark: with frameworks, I think ABI should now be ensure21:13
shadeslayer*ensured21:13
sgclarkshadeslayer: ty, I will get this right, just need to read more. I agree, should be done right. Thanks for your help.21:14
windowsone idea it will be nice to have navigator meny for play , stop , next in apps like clementine when is mouse over app in pannel ;)21:18
shadeslayerwindows: wrong channel, file bugs on bugs.kde.org or email kde-devel21:19
shadeslayerwindows: and btw that already exists21:19
windowsok i just must find it how21:19
shadeslayerdepends on whether or not the app supports it21:20
shadeslayerwindows: http://i.imgur.com/GfK1gqW.png21:20
shadeslayerspotify supports it for eg21:20
shadeslayerI'm using Icon only task manager21:21
shadeslayerso maybe it's a feature only IOTM21:21
windowsok21:23
shadeslayerwindows: and you should report feature requests to KDE developers21:24
* apachelogger blinks21:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: I'm still waiting for my spaceship21:37
* shadeslayer noms on pizza21:37
apacheloggerscru u21:38
shadeslayer:O21:38
apacheloggeru no give me pizza,I no give you spaceships21:39
* apachelogger eats some old bread21:39
shadeslayerit's not very good pizza :(21:39
shadeslayerDominos calls it the 4 cheese pizza21:40
apacheloggerdominos21:40
apacheloggerlawl21:40
shadeslayerI've nicknamed it the smelly cheese pizza21:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah well, no other pizza shops were open at 5 PM :(21:40
shadeslayerand I was terribly hungry21:40
apacheloggerpeculiar city21:40
shadeslayerdem spaniards21:40
shadeslayerwith their siestas21:41
shadeslayerwe'd make good friends ....21:41
yofelyou're obviously supposed to be asleep at 5pm in spain ^^21:41
shadeslayerwell, I got into work at 5 PM :P21:41
apachelogger^ requires getting up before noonz21:42
shadeslayerwhat apachelogger said21:42
* apachelogger still hungry :'<21:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: I'm waiting for a spaceship21:42
shadeslayerso that I can transport pizza to you21:42
apacheloggerkeep your dominos to you21:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: better than your old bread21:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: plz upload libkomparediff and kwalletmanager21:47
soeewhat was the ninjas ppa ?21:56
shadeslayersoee: uploaded to the main archive21:57
shadeslayerjust grab it from there in another 12-14 hours :)21:57
soee:D21:57
soeethanks21:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: got any tasks for me?22:06
yofelshadeslayer: what happened to you not working into the night anymore? ^^22:07
shadeslayeryofel: woke up late :*22:07
shadeslayer:(22:07
yofelhehehe22:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: trello22:07
shadeslayerand going to work for another hour or so22:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: we need another board22:08
shadeslayeror well22:08
shadeslayerthat list thingy22:08
shadeslayerTodo -> Doing -> Review -> Done22:08
apacheloggeroften review is not applicable22:08
apacheloggerthough I general agree22:08
shadeslayersure, then you just move from Doing to Done22:08
=== valorie_ is now known as valorie
ahoneybun_hey valorie 22:26
shadeslayerk I'm going to head home, the american's are coming online :P22:37
valoriehi ahoneybun_23:35
valorieso far trusty is not only smooth, but quiet23:35
valoriexorg used to use up to 60% of cpu for some reason, which turned on the fan all the time23:36
valorienow it never comes on23:36
ahoneybun_that is nice23:41
ahoneybun_someone in ubuntu-doc wants to use my tahr on the desktop help for the time being23:41

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