[00:20] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin, you on?
[01:45] <valorie> ahoneybun: I like the outline with eyes, but prefer the spacing to be wider, like you had with the cut-off head
[01:46] <valorie> which I agree was creepy
[01:46] <valorie> reminds me of that game like polo that afghani men play with the body of a goat
[01:55] <ahoneybun> valorie, http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[01:56] <ahoneybun> valorie, like this http://imgur.com/2mRedtA?
[02:30] <valorie> I like the head over to the left more
[02:30] <valorie> as you had the "real" head
[02:32] <valorie> I like that feature tour
[02:34] <ahoneybun> see doctor who in it
[02:37] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/ifYr1Ik
[02:38] <valorie> um, what are the dots, and moon?
[02:38] <ahoneybun> some mhall119 suggested
[02:38] <valorie> yes, loved seeing the Doctor and Clara
[02:39] <ahoneybun> similiar to kde.org
[02:39] <valorie> but those on kde.org are subtle, and blurred
[02:42] <mhall119> ahoneybun: imgur is being slow :(
[02:44] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I was thinking something like the lighter-shaded concentric circles behind the "Get Kubuntu" icon on http://www.kubuntu.org/
[02:45] <mhall119> so just a couple shades lighter blue than your background
[02:45] <mhall119> either that or the layered gradients behind the main banner just above it
[02:45] <mhall119> something to give it a "Kubuntu" branch feel
[02:49] <mhall119> s/branch/brand/
[02:49] <kubotu> mhall119 meant: "something to give it a "Kubuntu" brand feel"
[02:49] <mhall119> only took me 4 minutes to realize I typed the wrong word :)
[02:49] <mhall119> also, what a fantastic bot
[02:52] <valorie> I think he is open source
[03:05]  * mhall119 has enough projects already :)
[03:31] <ahoneybun> valorie, I was also in the Ubuntu Documention Day
[03:31] <ahoneybun> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/02/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t16:02
[05:51] <valorie> nice, ahoneybun!
[05:51]  * valorie just finished upgrading the main laptop to 14.04 beta
[05:52] <valorie> so far, so good
[05:52] <valorie> I think the font in konvi changed
[05:53] <valorie> cool, oxygen mono now
[08:34] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I am now. I'm in GMT+2.
[08:35] <ovidiu-florin> sorry UTC+2
[09:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: amarok done
[09:20] <apachelogger> I really do wonder whether we'll want to shoot for kontact at this time
[09:20] <apachelogger> it's just so massive
[09:20] <Riddell> shoot for kontact?
[09:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's done with amarok?
[09:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: manual smoke test case
[09:23] <apachelogger> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lzQdkpqU3Cc_lhsN2ibnB8fKfOgAq_gV6vc3PLvGSbQ/viewform
[09:26] <Riddell> smoking!
[09:34] <Riddell> Mirv: what's the status of qt 5.2 in ubuntu?
[09:35] <Mirv> Riddell: landing via the CI Train process, fixing rebuild problems one after another. the path seems quite clear, not sure yet if ready to copy on Thursday or later.
[09:36] <Mirv> Riddell: the process means there's a PPA (https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-006) where landing of Qt + all rebuilds happens which is then copied to the archives
[09:36] <Mirv> the progress is at http://pad.ubuntu.com/qt52-dependencies
[09:36] <Riddell> gosh sounds complex, good luck :)
[09:37] <Mirv> I've now rebuilt ~everything in another PPA too, and the known rebuild problems (like gtk-doc gotten uploaded) should have fixes today
[09:37] <Mirv> pretty complex, yes :) I've a good feeling now, though.
[09:37] <Riddell> give me a ping if you need anything passed through New
[09:38] <Mirv> sure, I'll if there's a need and no other archive admin visible right away
[09:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: all done except for kontact (might be too big for now), driver-manager (plz write a test) and touchpad-kde (plz write a test)
[09:50] <apachelogger> going to prep announcements
[09:51] <apachelogger> oh, I guess we'll need an overview page
[09:51]  * apachelogger shivers because of the html
[10:49]  * apachelogger writes some marshalling code
[11:02] <apachelogger> and then I got myself confused again 6^
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:57]  * Riddell onto calligra
[12:28] <sgclark> Riddell: what does orange mean? Do I need to do something with these?
[12:40] <Riddell> sgclark: it means something is up and needs investigating
[12:40] <Riddell> sgclark: which are you looking at?
[12:40] <sgclark> Riddell: karchive, I will look through log
[12:41] <Riddell> sgclark: click show/hide on karchive on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.97.0_trusty.html
[12:42] <Riddell> sgclark: it highlights a warning in the cmake output but it's not anything important so that can be ignored
[12:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you looking at 4.12.3 in precise?
[12:57] <sgclark> Riddell: I just sent you and email, I am still not convinced with the symbols files
[12:58] <Riddell> sgclark: do whatever takes the least time
[12:59] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks!
[12:59] <Riddell> sgclark: once the library gets a final release then we want to update the symbols files and is there's any missing symbols we want to work out if that makes it binary incompatible and things need changed
[12:59] <Riddell> sgclark: but for now we're just preparing the packaging so do whatever is quickest
[13:00] <sgclark> Riddell: thank you
[13:14] <sgclark> Riddell: kcoreaddons ready
[13:15] <Riddell> yay!
[13:31] <sgclark> Riddell: kglobalaccel ready
[13:32] <Riddell> sgclark: try to not change the version number and UNRELEASED target in debian/changelog
[13:33] <sgclark> Riddell: I am only adding entry below your initial release
[13:34] <sgclark> Riddell: wwell at least that is my intention, dch may have done otherwise
[13:34] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah this is in the diff
[13:34] <Riddell> -kglobalaccel (4.97.0-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
[13:34] <Riddell> +kglobalaccel (4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa3) trusty; urgency=medium
[13:37] <sgclark> dch weirdness, the problem is it keeps wanting to create an entirely new entry, and I knwo that is wrong so I have just removed that and placed an entry below yours in brackets, I need to put unreleased in there as well or?
[13:37] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[13:38] <apachelogger> sgclark: how do you call dch?
[13:38] <apachelogger> what arguments
[13:38] <sgclark> no arguements per Riddell
[13:39] <apachelogger> oh, you might want to use dch -a (to add a change) or dch -e (to edit without any addition)
[13:39] <sgclark> apachelogger: ok thanks I will try that
[13:49] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded both BTW
[13:50] <sgclark> ty, so kimageformats, that i386 test fail, patch to disable?
[13:50] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah
[13:50] <sgclark> ok
[13:50] <Riddell> maybe I already did if you look in the bzr history
[13:51] <sgclark> how do I do that?
[13:51] <Riddell> or maybe not
[13:51] <Riddell> bzr log
[13:51] <Riddell> nothing in there so I must be imagingin it
[13:51] <Riddell> patch it out and send the patch upstream for notification
[13:52] <sgclark> np, I found it in code, should be simple
[14:02] <sgclark> Riddell: reported, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331735 first bug report from scratch , hopefully done right, some fields did not give me any options
[14:04]  * apachelogger doesn't know what to write in the testing blog post :/
[14:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: does the wiki move have council approval yet?
[14:08] <philwyett> Needs some love by someone with a little more time than myself. kdepim bug #1283596
[14:10] <apachelogger> wontfix
[14:10] <apachelogger> we don't have space for mysql-client on the ISO
[14:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, did you take a look at kolourpaint yet?
[14:17] <sgclark> Riddell: kimageformats ready
[14:17] <philwyett> apachelogger: Good to know. Can the message when running the app be made more user friendly for those who are not experienced in finding which packages supply a specific binary?
[14:18] <apachelogger> philwyett: yes, no, maybe, IMHO this should be handled upstream somehow
[14:19] <philwyett> apachelogger: Yeah. Will add to to-do list to push it upstream later on.
[14:20] <apachelogger> what I am saying is: that would be a string change, and I'd rather not meedle with strings unless absolutely necessary
[14:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: wiki move I think go for it, nobody has said no
[14:20] <apachelogger> and this particular example does not seem very necessary as upstream could easily make it so that distributions can define a package rather than the actual binary for example
[14:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok
[14:21] <philwyett> apachelogger: Indeed.
[14:22] <Riddell> sgclark: added a better subject line and a comment to the bug report
[14:23] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks
[14:26] <Riddell> apachelogger: kolourpaint is no krita, it has a stupid name and could do with some automated install on the scanner plugin, but if we have to throw out krita it'll do
[14:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: well that's the thing, I am not sure there is use case to be had here at all
[14:28] <apachelogger> there's pixmap editing for which kolourpaint is too dumb, but everything else is too advanced (i.e. the use case itself is very specific)
[14:28] <apachelogger> then there's drawing random stuff for which kolourpaint ought to be sufficient, but who randomly draws crappy pixmaps (the kind that one probably would not consider art)
[14:29] <apachelogger> then there's random photo manipulation which ought to be a very common use case, and those are mostly covered by gwenview (again, except for advanced pixmap editing a la photoshop)
[14:34] <Riddell> sgclark: kimageformats uploaded
[14:34] <Riddell> sgclark: when adding a patch put the name of the patch in the changelog, that way you can easily search for it
[14:35] <Riddell> sgclark: oh I also renamed the patch to kubuntu_disable-test-breaks-i386.diff which makes it clear it came from us and not upstream or debian
[14:36] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[14:41] <sgclark> Riddell: kwindowsystem ready
[14:42] <Riddell> awooga
[14:43] <sgclark> Riddell: is that runtime depend in solid something I need to add?
[14:43] <Riddell> sgclark: which?
[14:43] <sgclark> Riddell: mediaplayerinfo, causing the orange
[14:44] <Riddell> sgclark: make sure it's in the .deb package depends in debian/control
[14:44] <sgclark> k
[14:44] <Riddell> sgclark: and you can add an exception in the automation scripts if you want the orange to go away
[14:44] <Riddell> lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation
[14:45] <Riddell> edit cmake-ignore.json
[14:45] <apachelogger> someone should make a project for that at some point xD
[14:45] <Riddell> sgclark: but I had a request from debian about solid
[14:45] <Riddell>     12:56 < avolkov> Riddell: libkf5solid5 contains contains libsolidextensionplugin.so
[14:45] <Riddell>     12:57 < avolkov> Riddell: it would be better to move it to separate package (qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-plugin)
[14:46] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, want me to do that?
[14:47] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah would be lovely if you could
[14:47] <sgclark> Riddell: sure thing :)
[14:49] <Riddell> sgclark: but call it qtdeclarative5-kf5solid5.0
[14:49] <sgclark> ok
[14:52]  * apachelogger falls off chair
[14:56] <sgclark> Riddell: solid already has Suggests: media-player-info [linux-any], shouldn't that be good enough?
[14:58] <Riddell> sgclark: yep
[15:22]  * apachelogger looks at trello, sighs, cries
[15:28] <philwyett> apachelogger: A thought. As a alternative to changing kdepim in any way for bug #1283596. Could we add something in the release notes so folks can be informed to install the package if they wish to use the feature? Lets see who actually reads the release notes. :-)
[15:28] <sgclark> Riddell: solid ready
[15:29] <apachelogger> philwyett: that can be done
[15:30] <dougl> can I bug you folks... I need something to cheer me up, 'plymouth' is not working yet is it? 
[15:30]  * dougl is loving all the work going into 14.04 cannot wait - good job ladies and gents!!!
[15:31] <Riddell> dougl: plymouth our boot splash has been working for years
[15:31] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded!
[15:32] <dougl> Riddell, yes I know but does it work in 14.04 yet - I love it :) 13.04 sunrise animation looks awesome...
[15:33] <Riddell> dougl: sure, nothing has changed in it
[15:34] <dougl> Riddell, I'll check once more but I am pretty sure it is not working
[15:39] <Riddell> 15:38 < sebas> We have Alpha1 of Plasma Next planned next week
[15:39] <Riddell> golly
[15:51] <sgclark> Riddell: cool, is that something I can help with?
[15:51] <Riddell> sgclark: yes I hope so
[15:52] <Riddell> sgclark: it'll be the first user of kf5 :)
[15:52] <sgclark> Riddell: yay! I would love to work on that then
[15:53] <Riddell> sgclark: expect lots of breakage :)
[15:53] <sgclark> Riddell: I was here Saturday, but unfamiliar with depot process
[15:53] <sgclark> Riddell: I thrive on working out kinks!
[15:53] <Riddell> more fun, it's probably not co-installable with plasma 1 so you might have to uninstall large parts of kde to work on it
[15:54] <Riddell> sgclark: you know ssh and scp?
[15:54] <sgclark> Riddell: yep!
[15:56] <Riddell> sgclark: ssh depot.kde.org and look in unstable/frameworks to see what's there
[15:56] <Riddell> scp depot.kde.org:unstable/frameworks/4.97.0/*xz .
[15:56] <Riddell> will download them to your computer
[15:57] <sgclark> Permission denied (publickey).
[15:57] <Riddell> ssh ftpubuntu@depot.kde.org
[15:57] <Riddell> sgclark: forgot the username
[15:58] <sgclark> yay! that worked thanks :)
[15:59] <Riddell> for the mass change of soname I used manual bash for loops
[16:00] <Riddell> and some python scripting
[16:20] <dougl> Riddell, chit chat re plymouth?
[16:21] <Riddell> dougl: what what?
[16:21] <sgclark> Riddell: kconfig ready
[16:21] <Riddell> gosh, no interlingua translations for calligra 2.8
[16:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: around?
[16:22] <dougl> are you sure it is supposed to be working... I know it has always worked but someone in here said it did not and now you are saying it does... just was hoping we could all get on the same page.
[16:22] <Riddell> dougl: it works for me in beta 1 when rebooting
[16:23] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded!
[16:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[16:23] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:24] <philwyett> Riddell: Calligra 2.8.0-0ubuntu1 trusty upload 'patckages'? :-D
[16:24]  * shadeslayer goes off to find doko
[16:27] <Riddell> philwyett: where?
[16:27] <philwyett> '* Add kritasketch and kritagemini patckages' the changelog
[16:28] <Riddell> oh hmm well, you know what I mean :)
[16:28] <philwyett> :-)
[16:29] <philwyett> A package update is good. A patch is good. Both is fantastic. Certainly the Kubuntu way. :-)
[16:32] <philwyett> Time I tried the mesa 10.1 RC 3 update of today. Lets see if it fixes the lockups and crashers that did not exist on Kubuntu 14.04 before 10.1 RC's appeared.
[16:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: re 4.12.3 in precise no, because Trusty isn't finished yet
[16:39] <shadeslayer> we're blocking on kdepimlibs
[16:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: are those symbols missing?
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes
[16:42] <shadeslayer> been missing in 4.12.2 as well
[16:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm yes, try pinging doko?
[16:43] <Riddell> ah not on channel
[16:43] <Riddell> hmm
[16:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what did debian do? i see they have 4.12.2 in experimental
[16:46] <shadeslayer> looking
[16:47] <shadeslayer> *cringe*
[16:47] <Riddell> ?
[16:48] <shadeslayer> # SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4:4.11.5 alpha armhf hppa powerpcspe s390x x32
[16:48] <Riddell> yum
[16:49] <sgclark> Riddell: I am still having wierd dependency issues with kconfig and can't seem to sort this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033883/
[16:49] <shadeslayer> well, they have  (optional=gccinternal|arch=alpha armel armhf hppa mips mipsel s390x sparc)_ZN5KMime5Types8AddrSpecC1Ev@Base 4:4.11.5
[16:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how does that relate to us?
[16:50] <shadeslayer> we don't :)
[16:51] <Riddell> sgclark: what are you trying to install?
[16:51] <sgclark> Riddell: kcompletion requires libkf5config-dev libkf5widgetsaddons-dev
[16:53] <Riddell> sgclark: installs fine for me
[16:53] <Riddell> sgclark: what if you   apt-get remove libkf5configgui5 libkf5configcore5 libkf5widgetsaddons5 ?
[16:55] <sgclark> Riddell: that did it, thanks
[16:56] <soee> hi :) so only 2 packages blocking 14.2.3 for trusty ?
[16:56] <soee> *4
[17:10] <sgclark> Riddell: kcompletion ready
[17:12] <sgclark> Riddell: do you know if polkit-qt5 is available yet?
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hm, so we /could/ just drop it since we should have marked it as internal/optional at first
[17:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go for it
[17:14] <Riddell> sgclark: nobody knows, there is a qt5 branch in git which might work but overlaps with the current version, and there's a patch for another qt5 port
[17:15] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, so leave kauth as is? It is orange due to missing recommend of that
[17:15] <sgclark> Riddell: A repsonse on my bug asking for the data files, since it was a server build I do not have them.
[17:17] <Riddell> sgclark: yes leave kauth as it is, we'll get to it when upstream has something for us
[17:18] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, can you assist with the data files they need for my https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331735
[17:19] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah will do
[17:19] <sgclark> ty
[17:38] <sgclark> Riddell: kdnssd-framework: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7034127/
[17:40] <Riddell> let's look
[17:40] <Riddell> sgclark: kde4libs build-depends on libavahi-common-dev
[17:40] <sgclark> ok
[17:46] <sgclark> Riddell: kdnssd-framework ready
[17:47] <Riddell> yay :)
[17:48] <Riddell> uploaded
[17:49] <Riddell> sgclark: still KI18n from tier 1 to fix
[18:05] <sgclark> Riddell: I created new symbols for this one but new error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7034260/
[18:06] <Riddell> sgclark: for the other .so file
[18:06] <sgclark> ahh
[18:06] <Riddell> sgclark: you'll need to move the symbols file out the way, make a new one for that .so file, manually merge them
[18:07] <sgclark> ok
[18:07] <shadeslayer> could someone test 4.12.3 from ninjas?
[18:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what did you conclude on kdepimlibs?
[18:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: symbols can be dropped
[18:08] <shadeslayer> talked to Debian folks
[18:09] <Riddell> gcc change?
[18:09] <shadeslayer> they think so
[18:09] <shadeslayer> it could change again
[18:10] <Riddell> spooky
[18:10] <shadeslayer> very
[18:12] <tester56> when will kde applications 4.13 be available for testing in trusty?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> when it's released?
[18:13] <Riddell> when it exists
[18:13] <tester56> should be tomorrow ..., but I am asking if there has been already some preparation going on
[18:13] <shadeslayer> nope, no tarballs that I know of
[18:14] <tester56> oh okay ..., but it's planned to land in trusty if nothing goes wrong?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:14] <Riddell> that's the hope
[18:15] <tester56> Riddell: Are you using akonadi/kmail?
[18:16] <Riddell> not apart from some testing
[18:16] <sgclark> Riddell: ki18n ready
[18:17] <Riddell> whee
[18:17] <tester56> Riddell, just curious, what do you use?
[18:18] <Riddell> tester56: mutt and exim4 on debian stable seems to be
[18:18] <Riddell> hmm no, debian sarge
[18:19] <lordievader> KDE is niet bepaald klein te noemen ;)
[18:19] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded!
[18:19] <Riddell> lordievader: ja?
[18:20] <lordievader> Err that should go to some other channel...
[18:31] <sgclark> Riddell: kdoctools ready
[18:35] <Riddell> uploaded!
[18:39] <windows> hi to all 
[18:39] <Riddell> hi windows 
[18:39] <windows> any way to make web cam like motion detection video or audio
[18:39] <windows> recorder under 
[18:40] <windows> kubuntu 13.10
[18:40] <Riddell> windows: support in #kubuntu
[18:40] <windows> with guvcvieew or cheese but cheese its stuck every time
[18:40] <windows> ok 
[18:40] <windows> il try
[18:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: installing 4.12.3
[18:43] <shadeslayer> thx
[18:50] <Riddell> waa it's removing all my kde packages, no idea why
[18:50] <shadeslayer> ohohoh
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: enable proposed
[18:50]  * Riddell should have read the apt output more closely
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://www.crowdtilt.com/campaigns/working-on-it/description
[18:51] <Riddell> 18:50 < lisandro> +1 for qtdeclarative5-[module]-[version]
[18:51] <Riddell> sgclark: seems like solid could do with another package rename for an extra dash
[18:52] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[18:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm, somehow I don't think I'll sponsor that
[18:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: huh?
[18:53] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:53] <shadeslayer> the crowdtilt thing
[18:55] <Peace-> Riddell: hi , have you tried to download a torrent with magnet ? ktorrent has a little bug in the desktop file 
[18:55] <Peace-> if you try to open a magnet link it doesn't do anything on kubuntu 
[18:55] <Riddell> nope not tried that
[18:56] <Peace-> anyway the fix it's very easy 
[18:56] <Riddell> what is it?
[18:57] <Peace-> Riddell: https://nowardev.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/kubuntu-ktorrent-magnet/ 
[18:57] <shadeslayer> needs upstreaming
[18:57] <Peace-> MimeType=application/x-bittorrent;application/x-torrent;x-scheme-handler/magnet;
[18:57] <Peace-> in the original stuff we got 
[18:57] <Peace-> MimeType=application/x-bittorrent;application/x-torrent;
[18:58] <Peace-> Riddell: do you want i open a bug report?
[18:58] <Riddell> Peace-: if you send it upstream I'll apply it to our package
[18:59] <Riddell> although I don't know how active the ktorrent upstream is
[18:59] <Riddell> or even how you contact them
[18:59] <Peace-> Riddell: let me try 
[19:04] <Riddell> philwyett: I don't know of anyone who uses juk!
[19:07] <shadeslayer> ^^
[19:07] <shadeslayer> I doubt it's even actively maintained
[19:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: actually, I think aseigo uses Juk
[19:08] <rdieter> Peace-: I use this, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ktorrent.git/tree/ktorrent-4.2.0-mimetype_magnet.patch  (I'm pretty sure I posted it on their forums, but it's been awhile and I didn't document it, my bad)
[19:08] <Peace-> juk ?
[19:09] <Peace-> omg 
[19:09] <philwyett> Riddell: I do on a system. But it's only been a recent thing.
[19:09] <Peace-> rdieter: i have already solved mimetype problem but thank you 
[19:09] <sgclark> Riddell: kcompletion still needs upload
[19:09] <rdieter> Peace-: you need to omit the legacy magnet.protocol bit too, mind you
[19:10] <Peace-> rdieter: let me see 
[19:10] <shadeslayer> rdieter: why isn't that upstream :P
[19:11] <rdieter> shadeslayer: like I said, I vaguely recall posting it to their developer forum at the time
[19:11] <rdieter> but I dont think it got any reply
[19:11] <shadeslayer> rdieter: does that make it work with firefox btw?
[19:11] <rdieter> it should, yes
[19:12] <shadeslayer> woot
[19:12] <rdieter> I guess it's all in kde infrastructure now, I have no excuse for not retrying on reviewboard or via a bug or whatever.  again, my bad
[19:12] <Riddell> is it?
[19:13] <Riddell> oh interesting, so it is https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent
[19:13] <shadeslayer> yeah 
[19:13] <Riddell> Peace-: there you go, just file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[19:13] <shadeslayer> or open a RB request
[19:13] <sgclark> Riddell: solid ready
[19:14] <Riddell> Peace-: kde bug 314318
[19:14] <Peace-> Riddell: ah shit 
[19:15] <Riddell> Peace-: add rdieter's patch to that
[19:15] <Riddell> Peace-: why curse?
[19:15] <Peace-> :D i did not see that bug Riddell
[19:17] <Peace-> done
[19:17] <Riddell> sgclark: convention is to use * for each line of a changelog and - for 2nd level bullet points
[19:18] <Riddell> Peace-: rdieter: rocking inter-team work
[19:18] <Riddell> sgclark: solid and kcompletion uploaded!
[19:20] <Peace-> :) 
[19:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: 4.12.3 all good once -proposed is enabled
[19:20] <shadeslayer> yippie
[19:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'll upload then
[19:21] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm about to wander out for the evening, if you have any more great work try poking shadeslayer 
[19:21] <shadeslayer> yeah, I'm around for another 4-5 hours :)
[19:22] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, have a great night :)
[19:29] <soee> 4.12.3 ready for tests ?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> soee: yeah
[19:29] <shadeslayer> ninjas
[19:30] <shadeslayer> though I'll be uploading it sson
[19:30] <shadeslayer> *soon
[19:30] <soee> so shall i wait ?
[19:31] <sgclark> shadeslayer: kconfigwidgets ready
[19:31] <shadeslayer> sgclark: plz push everything, I'll upload it in one go
[19:31] <shadeslayer> unless each one of the frameworks is blocking :(
[19:31] <sgclark> shadeslayer: correct
[19:31] <shadeslayer> sigh
[19:32] <shadeslayer> sgclark: even doing all tier X frameworks together doesn't work?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> so for eg. you push all tier 2 frameworks to bzr
[19:32] <shadeslayer> and then I upload
[19:33] <sgclark> shadeslayer starting with t2 there are interdependencies. I can just wait till tomorrow
[19:33] <shadeslayer> nah it's alright
[19:33]  * shadeslayer is pondering why kamera wasn't updated
[19:36] <shadeslayer> sgclark: no debian watch file
[19:36] <shadeslayer> plz add
[19:43] <sgclark> shadeslayer: hmm this is wierd watch is missing on a bunch, I have no idea why.. will investigate
[19:43] <shadeslayer> thx
[19:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Kubuntu Driver Manager and KDE Touchpad smoke tests done
[19:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: KDE Touchpad has too many settings tbh and I've noted the ones that matter the most to Kubuntu
[20:01] <sgclark> shadeslayer: kconfigwidgets, kconfig, kcompletion, kdnssd-framework all need repush, added back watch files.
[20:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: we don't want to test everything
[20:14] <apachelogger> we want to test core abilities of an application
[20:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: aye
[20:16] <shadeslayer> then it's done
[20:16] <shadeslayer> sgclark: all up
[20:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can I have a spaceship now
[20:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do you have a license?
[20:24] <shadeslayer> yep
[20:58] <shadeslayer> fooey
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger plz upload libkomparediff2 and kwalletmanager
[20:58] <shadeslayer> the latter is a new source
[20:59] <sgclark> shadeslayer: kservice ready
[21:02] <shadeslayer> sgclark: useful info to provide next time, what ~ppa version the package in the ppa is
[21:02] <shadeslayer> so like kservice is at 3
[21:02] <sgclark> sure
[21:02] <shadeslayer> thanks alot
[21:03] <shadeslayer> makes my job alot easier
[21:03] <shadeslayer> sgclark: btw are you manually running sed on the symbols?
[21:03] <shadeslayer> because that last change looks wrong
[21:04] <sgclark> shadeslayer: no I use pkgkde-gensymbols
[21:04] <sgclark> pkgkde-symbolshelper
[21:04] <shadeslayer> sgclark: and the build log shows all of those as new symbols?
[21:04] <sgclark> build log?
[21:05] <shadeslayer> sgclark: yep, how else do you run pkgkde-symbolshelper
[21:05] <shadeslayer> you generate the symbols file once, and then you keep updating it by passing the build log to pkgkde-symbolshelper
[21:09] <shadeslayer> sgclark: so how are you updating the symbols then :)
[21:09] <ahoneybun_>  hwllo all
[21:10] <sgclark> shadeslayer, ok Riddell tried to explain that to me and clearly I am having a learning curve moment. I had issues with Missing: blah blah, so was recreating from .so files, I think I understand now..
[21:10] <sgclark> shadeslayer: I will give it an attempt
[21:10] <sgclark> hi ahoneybun_
[21:10] <shadeslayer> sgclark: well, I'd recommend reading the excellent page on the Debian KDE site
[21:11] <shadeslayer> sgclark: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[21:11] <windows> kubuntu I think it will be nice if there was app for sync privete phone - pc   ---- whole mobile on your PC just with linux XD
[21:12] <sgclark> shadeslayer: right, but my knowledge is not strong enough to determine if it is safe to remove. I will try to wrap my head around this tomorrow, my brain is mush, been at this since 4am.
[21:13] <shadeslayer> sgclark: I'd recommend some sleep ;)
[21:13] <shadeslayer> sgclark: with frameworks, I think ABI should now be ensure
[21:13] <shadeslayer> *ensured
[21:14] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ty, I will get this right, just need to read more. I agree, should be done right. Thanks for your help.
[21:18] <windows> one idea it will be nice to have navigator meny for play , stop , next in apps like clementine when is mouse over app in pannel ;)
[21:19] <shadeslayer> windows: wrong channel, file bugs on bugs.kde.org or email kde-devel
[21:19] <shadeslayer> windows: and btw that already exists
[21:19] <windows> ok i just must find it how
[21:20] <shadeslayer> depends on whether or not the app supports it
[21:20] <shadeslayer> windows: http://i.imgur.com/GfK1gqW.png
[21:20] <shadeslayer> spotify supports it for eg
[21:21] <shadeslayer> I'm using Icon only task manager
[21:21] <shadeslayer> so maybe it's a feature only IOTM
[21:23] <windows> ok
[21:24] <shadeslayer> windows: and you should report feature requests to KDE developers
[21:36]  * apachelogger blinks
[21:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'm still waiting for my spaceship
[21:37]  * shadeslayer noms on pizza
[21:38] <apachelogger> scru u
[21:38] <shadeslayer> :O
[21:39] <apachelogger> u no give me pizza,I no give you spaceships
[21:39]  * apachelogger eats some old bread
[21:39] <shadeslayer> it's not very good pizza :(
[21:40] <shadeslayer> Dominos calls it the 4 cheese pizza
[21:40] <apachelogger> dominos
[21:40] <apachelogger> lawl
[21:40] <shadeslayer> I've nicknamed it the smelly cheese pizza
[21:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah well, no other pizza shops were open at 5 PM :(
[21:40] <shadeslayer> and I was terribly hungry
[21:40] <apachelogger> peculiar city
[21:40] <shadeslayer> dem spaniards
[21:41] <shadeslayer> with their siestas
[21:41] <shadeslayer> we'd make good friends ....
[21:41] <yofel> you're obviously supposed to be asleep at 5pm in spain ^^
[21:41] <shadeslayer> well, I got into work at 5 PM :P
[21:42] <apachelogger> ^ requires getting up before noonz
[21:42] <shadeslayer> what apachelogger said
[21:42]  * apachelogger still hungry :'<
[21:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'm waiting for a spaceship
[21:42] <shadeslayer> so that I can transport pizza to you
[21:42] <apachelogger> keep your dominos to you
[21:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: better than your old bread
[21:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: plz upload libkomparediff and kwalletmanager
[21:56] <soee> what was the ninjas ppa ?
[21:57] <shadeslayer> soee: uploaded to the main archive
[21:57] <shadeslayer> just grab it from there in another 12-14 hours :)
[21:57] <soee> :D
[21:57] <soee> thanks
[22:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: got any tasks for me?
[22:07] <yofel> shadeslayer: what happened to you not working into the night anymore? ^^
[22:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: woke up late :*
[22:07] <shadeslayer> :(
[22:07] <yofel> hehehe
[22:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: trello
[22:07] <shadeslayer> and going to work for another hour or so
[22:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: we need another board
[22:08] <shadeslayer> or well
[22:08] <shadeslayer> that list thingy
[22:08] <shadeslayer> Todo -> Doing -> Review -> Done
[22:08] <apachelogger> often review is not applicable
[22:08] <apachelogger> though I general agree
[22:08] <shadeslayer> sure, then you just move from Doing to Done
[22:26] <ahoneybun_> hey valorie 
[22:37] <shadeslayer> k I'm going to head home, the american's are coming online :P
[23:35] <valorie> hi ahoneybun_
[23:35] <valorie> so far trusty is not only smooth, but quiet
[23:36] <valorie> xorg used to use up to 60% of cpu for some reason, which turned on the fan all the time
[23:36] <valorie> now it never comes on
[23:41] <ahoneybun_> that is nice
[23:41] <ahoneybun_> someone in ubuntu-doc wants to use my tahr on the desktop help for the time being