[00:00] <sarnold> m1sf1t: do you have any error messages from apt-get?
[00:00] <m1sf1t> sarnold: one sec...
[00:01] <m1sf1t> sarnold: just done apt-get update and it's downloading all the packages fine :S
[00:02] <m1sf1t> sarnold: but nslookup isn't working
[00:03] <m1sf1t> sarnold: a few have failed to fetch, but they mostly downloaded
[00:05] <m1sf1t> sarnold: it all seems to be working again now, ping ok, apt-get working. i think it might have been because i purged virtualbox
[00:05] <sarnold> m1sf1t: check /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/resolv.conf files to make sure they look sane..
[00:06] <m1sf1t> sarnold: i looked in those while googling, they all seemed fine :S
[00:06] <sarnold> m1sf1t: could be, if you want to re-install and re-configure it, you could check route -n output before and after and see what changes..
[00:08] <m1sf1t> sarnold: thanks :) i think i'll just install it on my laptop instead haha, maybe i'll think twice before messing about with my server unnecessarily
[00:08] <sarnold> m1sf1t: haha :) not a bad idea, though it can be tempting to use a big pile of iron to solve problems
[00:08] <m1sf1t> sarnold: thanks for the advice :) appreciated
[00:09] <m1sf1t> sarnold: haha yeah, a swift kick sometimes helps
[00:09] <sarnold> m1sf1t: have fun :)
[00:10] <m1sf1t> sarnold: right i'm off now that i've sorted that issue. it's gone midnight over here. thanks again, bye :)
[00:25] <m1sf1t> vnc4server
[00:43] <adam_g> d
[00:44] <hallyn> zul: no new failures from the new libvirt
[02:34] <huttan> ls
[02:35] <ScottK> rm
[02:53] <hallyn> zul: smb: bug 1248025 is xen, i assume one of your worthy selves will be taking a look? :)
[03:58] <elezium> hi ppl, I'm currently installing a home server.  I did not play with Samba since like 10 years ago.  Did it mature?  Is there any alternative as a file server?
[04:00] <sarnold> elezium: hrm, that sounds like a difficult question to answer; samba was already very mature ten years ago, it's the basis for many (most? nearly all?) NAS systems that have to serve windows users
[04:00] <sarnold> elezium: so I'm curious where you felt it lacking a decade ago..
[04:01] <sarnold> they have added more features to allow running it as an AD master.. see e.g. http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Active_Directory
[04:02] <elezium> sarnold, the configuration was messy, performance was not great... strange behavior... well, this is the result I got ... but I'm willing to try again.  (Thx for the link, but I don't need a AD... (not yet))
[04:04] <sarnold> elezium: hehe, I was afraid it was going to be configuration. still messy. it's probably worse even, since windows has gone through more iterations and more features ...
[04:06] <elezium> sarnold, I believe I can make it work ... only have 2 computer that will used it ...
[04:06] <sarnold> elezium: "strange behaviour" .. I'm not sure I ever got a network of windows 95 -and- win2k machines to have passwordless access to some shares. I suspect it'll be far easier now that the horrid old windows for workgroups codebase is dead :)
[04:08] <elezium> sarnold, haha.. yeah.. indeed, it was a win nt / 2000 / xp network mostly... but since my 2 computers are running win7.  I guess I can figure out how to make a single share (or two) to dump my files back and forth
[04:09] <sarnold> elezium: that ought to be doable :)
[04:09] <elezium> sarnold, if not, I ask my boss to fire me!
[04:11] <sarnold> elezium: haha, good plan. :)
[04:12] <elezium> sarnold, while you are there, do you know any streaming server software?  I'd like to drop music / video on that server, so I can stream them to my tab/cell/tv using UPnP (I think this is what they call it)
[04:12] <elezium> (frak.. I realise that always working with the same software, OS, I get numb with the rest)
[04:13] <sarnold> elezium: I found minidlna to be pretty good; I found that my hardware device was picky about file formats (boo) so it didn't work as well as I would have liked..
[04:14] <elezium> sarnold, humm... not sure if it will like hardware under ESX...
[04:15] <sarnold> elezium: minidnla probably will do fine if it can get a multicast socket on an interface
[04:15] <sarnold> elezium: in my case the problem was the ps3. heh.
[04:16] <sarnold> elezium: time for me to bail, have fun :)
[04:16] <elezium> sarnold, I see... I don't care 'bout my ps3 since my TV is a start thing that can stream (did not try it yet!)
[04:17] <sarnold> elezium: nice :) it might also be picky about formats..
[04:17] <sarnold> good luck
[04:17] <elezium> minidlna is now calledMedia Ready
[04:18] <elezium> probably, having one size fit all is hard...
[04:24] <DefunctProcess> ok I have a very noob question, but its late and i'm afraid i just need a second look
[04:25] <DefunctProcess> I used unetbootin to put the iso on my usb stick and chose the usb stick to boot from
[04:25] <DefunctProcess> but it just boots windows instead of ubuntu
[04:26] <DefunctProcess> I formatted the stick to fat before i used netbootin
[04:27] <cfhowlett> DefunctProcess, edit your bios to boot the USB
[04:27] <DefunctProcess> I tried and still got nothin
[04:28] <DefunctProcess> Is there anything I need to do ala setting some bootable flag or something?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> DefunctProcess, unetbootin should have done all of that for you.
[04:30] <cfhowlett> DefunctProcess, for more eyes on this problem, ask in the main #ubuntu channel
[04:34] <Settite> Hello. Can someone assist me with removing a package that failed to install properly?
[04:35] <MavKen> apt-get autoremove ?
[04:35] <Settite> Fails
[04:35] <DefunctProcess> force
[04:36] <Settite> Force?
[04:36] <Settite> i didn't think apt-get had a force command
[04:36] <Settite> well force option
[04:38] <DefunctProcess> maybe it doesn't i havent used ubuntu in 3 years
[04:40] <genii> Settite: Find it's stanza in /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the entire reference. It will be as if it was never installed
[04:41] <Settite> What will happen when I go to reinstall it?
[04:42] <genii> Settite: It will try to do it as if it has never been on the system previously.
[04:43] <Settite> So any remnants of it including databases will just be overwritten?
[04:43] <freeflying> genii: dpkg -P
[04:44] <genii> Settite: So it will overwrite any config files it had for instance. If it failed to install the first time, maybe delete also in /var/cache/apt/archives any file which begins with the packages name
[04:45] <genii> ( in case the download was corrupt)
[04:45] <genii> freeflying: I think there's also something about reinst-required or similar....
[04:47] <freeflying> genii: Apt does, but you're running into issues, so before reinstall it, you better figure it out what's wrong
[04:48] <genii> Settite: Could you pastebin the exact messages from apt when you try to install/deinstall?
[04:48]  * genii goes and makes more coffee
[08:03] <wizard_A> i tried installing ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-server but the ggui does not show up??
[08:20] <smb> hallyn, Not yet, maybe now. But wondering whether libvirt is supposed to work inside a PV guest (which I would tend to deny)
[09:49] <hxm> hi, I have the /homes in a different partition and /var/www in the system partition, is safe or good practice to store the /var/www in a /home?
[09:51] <ikonia> hxm: /var/www is on "/var" - so you can't put /var on /home
[09:52] <hxm> with ln -s
[09:52] <hxm> i just wonder if moving all the http virtual hosts to other place is ok
[09:52] <ikonia> why would you want to do that ? what benifit are you trying to get / problem are you trying to fix
[09:53] <hxm> 36% used for rootfs and 0% used for /home
[09:53] <hxm> and it will increase
[09:53] <ikonia> are you at risk of running out of space ?
[09:53] <hxm> it could happen in the future
[09:53] <ikonia> if so change the doucmentroot settings of your apache hosts rather than use symlinks
[09:54] <ikonia> hxm: you'd probably be better served putting /var on it's own partition and/or changing the documentroot to somewhere with more space
[09:54] <hxm> aha
[09:54] <hxm> the server dedicated admin did this by default so I want to think create a different partition for the /home is a good idea
[09:55] <ikonia> again - not sure why you are talking about /home
[09:55] <ikonia> from what you have said /home is already on it's own partition
[09:56] <hxm> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KX1d09LF
[09:56] <ikonia>  /home is already on it's own partition
[09:57] <hxm> yes and it has more free space than rootfs
[09:57] <ikonia> hxm: yes, we already know this, you said earlier
[09:57] <hxm> sorry
[09:57] <ikonia> apologies, I don't understand what you're asking
[09:58] <hxm> i just don't want to fill the system partition with data stored in the wrong place
[09:58] <ikonia> ok, so I've given you two options to resolve that
[09:58] <ikonia> you can do either/both
[09:59] <hxm> yes, thanks
[10:25] <setra> hello, I like to change the default location of .Xauthority file which is normally in $HOME/.Xauthority for a specific user group. how can this be achieved
[10:27] <setra> I tried already a lot but at time of login via ssh -X the location stays always at $HOME/.Xauthority, after login via ssh only the location is changed to what I want, but then it is to late.
[11:21] <cocoa117> the iptables MASQUERADE is only apply to private IP address range right? when I want to route IP traffic from internal network with computers on non-private IP range I don't have to use it, do i?
[14:06] <tomixxx3> hi i get "unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda": executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error" while iam installing ubuntu server 12.04.4 lts
[14:25] <beisner> tomixxx3, may be of help:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/143678/i-receive-the-error-grub-install-dev-sda-failed-while-attempting-to-install-u     also you might check out boot-repair:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:26] <tomixxx3> beisner: ty
[14:54] <jamespage> Daviey, could you put the normal SRU magic into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1262225
[14:54] <jamespage> I guess cause its a new package tools got confused
[14:57] <tomixxx3> do i need the grub boot loader? i only have ubuntu on my computer
[14:58] <tomixxx3> so, it should start automatically?
[15:29] <tomixxx3> beisner: that boot repari tool worked, ty :-)
[15:32] <beisner> tomixxx3, np.  glad you're up & running.  there are shorter/quicker/more direct ways of diagnosing and resolving, but that thing is pretty handy as an automagical 'big hammer' tool. ;)
[15:40] <kaffien> is unebootin the most reliable way to create a bootable usb stick?
[15:40] <kaffien> for linux that is.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !best|kaffien,
[15:46] <cfhowlett> kaffien, if you prefer it, use it.  or use the alternatives.  your free choice.
[15:46] <kaffien> ok then i'd like an option that will work.  Must i first format fat32 and then run unebootin?
[15:46] <andol> cfhowlett: Well, assuming a task is well defined enough, surely there is a best application then?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> andol, we have a poll channel for such discussions.
[15:52] <kaffien> ok then to be specific when i am creating a bootable usb stick  within windows. Do I have to format this stick as fat32 in order for unebootin to create a proper, bootable image?
[15:52] <andol> cfhowlett: Yeah, I can easily agree that such a discussion is off topic here. Mostly reacted against the statement of there not being a best application for a given task.
[16:39] <zul> jamespage:  do you remember the sane concurrency default?
[16:46] <jamespage> zul, 4
[16:47] <zul> thanks
[17:42] <smb> zul, I have been looking a bit at bug 1248025. Weirdly I cannot reproduce this locally (neither HVM nor PV guest). Somehow my Saucy libvirt seems not to try doing MakeCapabilities. Should be the same versions though (if cloud0 means what I think it means (iow just a rebuild))
[17:43] <zul> smb:  which version of xen?
[17:44] <smb> zul, Appears to me rackspace is running 4.1 outside, though since they try to install libvirt inside the guest I am not sure it matters
[17:45] <zul> smb: *sigh*
[17:45] <smb> I would just expect the guest side to fail getting the control handle as it does for me
[17:45] <zul> can we get a guest on their system to try it ou?
[17:46] <smb> Maybe (I have not asked, yet)
[17:47] <zul> i would ask
[18:30] <zul> jamespage:  FFE for libvirt and libvirt-python filed
[18:49] <zul> stgraber: can you have a look at the FFE for libvirt and libvirt-python please
[18:49] <mjohnson15_2>  /msg nickserv ghost mjohnson15 JoSe4men
[18:50] <kezu> hello I have ubuntu 12.04 I have reinstalled apache and i get a page saing index of
[18:50] <kezu> the www folder isnt recognised and php pages dont load the browser just attempts to download them
[18:50] <kezu> i think alot has been changed not sure how to get the site back up
[18:50] <kezu> maybe the www directory is different
[18:50] <kezu> and php has tobe reenabled?
[18:52] <usr13> kezu: You might also ask on #apache
[18:52] <kezu> no help there
[18:52] <kezu> asked hour ago
[18:52] <kezu> i  guess they dont support ubuntu maybe
[18:53] <usr13> Oh ok.
[18:53] <usr13> Well, I could get it going, but would have to tinker a bit. YOu get used to the old ways and kinda get lost in the new ones sometimes, that's my problem anyway.
[18:54] <kezu> usr13, thanks
[18:55] <kezu> ill get some sleep and try again when i wake up thanks alot
[18:57] <usr13> still there?
[18:57] <usr13> /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf
[18:58] <usr13> kezu  is gone... oh well
[19:51] <MavKen> I have postfix installed and have php scripts that will send out mail... other than coding the from address into my script, is there a central location to change the default from address?
[20:03] <MavKen> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14370224/change-outgoing-mail-address-from-rootservername-rackspace-sendgrid-postfix
[20:55] <Patrickdk> where can I locate the ocfs2 kernel modules?
[21:41] <tom[]> where's a good place to set UMASK and UMASK_DIR for the mysql service (12.04)? /etc/default ?
[21:56] <thumper> hi folks
[21:57] <thumper> when I installed my laptop, I did the "hey just give everything to the root partition:
[21:57] <thumper> now I want to hack some bits off to test some btrfs bits
[21:57] <thumper> what is the safest way to do this?
[21:58] <thumper> /dev/sda1      ext4      426G  240G  164G  60% /
[21:58] <thumper> I'd like to grab about 60G off that
[21:58] <thumper> without losing any data obviously
[22:10] <maxb> thumper: Probably make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick, boot it, and use gparted
[22:10] <thumper> hmm...
[22:10] <thumper> last time I tried a bootable usb stick it didn't work
[22:10] <thumper> probably me though
[22:11] <thumper> any way to resize the filesystem while mounted safely?
[22:11]  * thumper believes we have smart system people who may have written this
[22:12] <sarnold> thumper: don't use the gtk tool to make your usb stick; just dd the image onto the stick
[22:12] <maxb> You can enlarge ext3/4 online, but not shrink
[22:13] <sarnold> thumper: you can online grow ext3/ext4 with resize2fs, but shrinking requires umounting the filesystem.
[22:13]  * thumper nods
[22:13] <thumper> ok
[22:13] <thumper> need to reboot for kernel updates anyway
[22:13] <maxb> Also you can't have the kernel re-read the partition table of a device with mounted partitions
[22:18] <sarnold> maxb: oh, thanks, I hadn't heard that before
[22:19] <maxb> Neither had I until I tried to partition some unpartitioned space left unused on a semi-production system for future allocation :-/
[22:19] <sarnold> I could see myself doing something similar
[23:55] <prgCoder> just rolled out my first production server with ubuntu - HAD A BALL - ALL WORKING GREAT - I love you ubuntu
[23:56] <sarnold> prgCoder: excellent :) glad to hear it, thanks :)