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rezanhi03:41
rezan_hi,i have huawei android phone and want to install ubuntu for my adroid phone . can i install ubuntu on my phone if yes let me know step by step for installing ubuntu for my phone03:44
rezan_hi,i have huawei android phone and want to install ubuntu for my adroid phone . can i install ubuntu on my phone if yes let me know step by step for installing ubuntu for my phone03:46
geniirezan_: I of course already pointed you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ...the only Huawei I see listed there is the Huawei Ascend G300 . If that is not your device, then it is not ( yet) supported03:46
rezan_thanks genni03:47
rezan_i have huawei valiant y301a1..i thinks this has no support...thanks anyway03:49
geniirezan_: Perhaps keep checking the web page every couple weeks or so, someone may begin porting for it03:50
rezan_i have another phone ie.samsung galaxy note II model no.:-sgh-t889. is there anything for that for installing ubuntu04:01
geniirezan_: Again, please consult the page.04:01
geniiI get the feeling you are not even bothering to read it at all :)04:02
rezan_i didnt see anything for that model number so i ask here04:02
ErrorofRutorealizing that the nexus 7 2012 support has been deprecated, does/will it still work?04:28
WinCamXPHello, I just installed Ubuntu Touch on my 16GB Nexus 7 2013 flo and I wanted to know what the terminal password is. "ubuntu" did not work04:56
WinCamXPoh, it's "phablet" apparently - just tried random things myself. That should probably be documented somewhere05:08
cimpoxhello all06:06
cimpoxcan anybody help me to use ubuntu phone on acer Z120?06:07
WinCamXPwhat's the problem cimpox ?06:07
WinCamXPgeneral usage or a specific problem?06:07
cimpoxwell  I don't know if I can install on this device... because I would like to try06:08
cimpoxyou think it could work?06:08
cimpoxI have a linux laptop at home and I would like to use on my phone too... :D06:09
WinCamXPwell, possibly, I'm googling it now06:09
WinCamXPif not you could try chrooting debian within your Android install06:09
cimpoxtks06:09
cimpoxthat means???:S06:10
cimpoxto run inside android?06:10
WinCamXPbasically you run Debian inside normal android06:10
cimpoxaha06:10
WinCamXPDebian's root directory is changed, hence "chroot"06:10
WinCamXPso what Debian sees as "/" is actually like "/sdcard/debian" or whatever06:10
WinCamXPactually I think there might be issues chrooting from sdcrd, I forget06:10
cimpoxaha06:10
WinCamXPbut they're both running simultaneously06:11
WinCamXPand you can apt-get install tightvncserver and whatever windowmanagers and stuff06:11
WinCamXPinstall whatever VNC client on android, and connect to localhost06:11
cimpoxaha06:11
cimpoxtks I'll try now.. :)06:11
WinCamXPthere are some apps that do it all for you, but you can be limited on space06:12
cimpoxwhat kind of apps?06:12
WinCamXPI remember trying this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyndns.sven_ola.debian_kit06:13
WinCamXPthere's also BotBrew Basil which isn't exactly Debian, but is a port of dpkg/apt to Android so you end up with basically the same thing06:13
cimpoxtks a lot06:14
moegreenhey guys just got ubuntu loaded on my galaxy nexus..is there a way to import my contacts off my sim?  I dont see how to populate my contact list.06:22
moegreenhello?06:47
dholbachgood morning07:56
mardydholbach: hi! Maybe you know the answer of this, or can help me find someone who does:08:03
Mirvwho'd have a good CMake foo? to disable gtk doc tests in lp:hud. bug #128758008:03
ubot5bug 1287580 in Unity HUD "hud docs fail tests with gtk-doc 1.20" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128758008:03
Mirvfixing the tests welcome too of course08:03
mardydholbach: is it possible to update click applications which are preinstalled in the device?08:03
mardydholbach: and generally, how does one update click applications? Are new versions downloaded by the Update tool in system settings?08:04
dholbachhi mardy08:11
dholbachmardy, I don't really know how the mechanism works to get click apps on the image, but for general updates of click apps, you upload them to the software store and then the update tool in system settings should take care of the rest08:12
mardydholbach: OK, I was asking because we'll soon allow account plugins to be shipped as click packages, and I was wondering if/how we could update them in case they stop working (if the provider changes authentication parameters or blocks our keys for some reason)08:15
dholbachmardy, I guess it'd be handled just like every other click package08:16
mardydholbach: yep; I just didn't know if the Update tool would bother updating click packages or if the user had always to manually look for updates in the applications scope08:18
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Grammar Day!  :-D09:06
UtgeniusHello there. Anybody around?09:13
UtgeniusI have a question. Can I install the one of the beta images of Ubuntu Touch (the one meant for the Galaxy Nexus) on a Samsung Galaxy S1?09:16
UtgeniusI have a question. Can I install the one of the beta images of Ubuntu Touch (the one meant for the Galaxy Nexus) on a Samsung Galaxy S1?09:19
nhaines!devices | Utgenius09:23
ubot5Utgenius: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices09:23
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mptWho’s on the toolkit team these days?09:58
mptBesides zsombi09:59
mptAha, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+members#active10:00
t1mpmpt: what do you need?10:02
mptt1mp, someone to confirm or disprove my hypothesis that bug 1286262 is a theme bug, not a System Settings bug.10:03
ubot5bug 1286262 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "License text is tiny" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128626210:03
t1mpmpt: we don't theme Text{}. For themed text, use Label10:05
t1mpmpt: my device is charging, I cannot verify the issue on phone now.10:06
mptt1mp, I think that’s restating the question. :) If it’s too small by default, perhaps we should theme it to fix that.10:06
mptOtherwise it’s a boobytrap in the SDK … “Oh, you used Text{}? Silly you.”10:07
t1mpmpt: which qml file (in system settings) has the code that shows the text?10:08
t1mpah, License.qml? :)10:08
aquariusHm. I can connect to a bluetooth headset, but when I do so, the Music app doesn't play through it on a Nexus 4; it plays through the phone speaker as normal. Is this known? If not... where should I file it? I don't know whether it's a bluetooth problem, a pulseaudio problem, a music app problem...10:08
mptt1mp, I’ve never seen the code, but that sounds right :)10:08
mptaquarius, bug 124097910:09
ubot5bug 1240979 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[bluetooth] After claiming to connect no audio is routed to the headset" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124097910:09
aquariusha! excellent. My search-fu is obviously weak today. Thank you mpt10:09
mptaquarius, it just happened to first in the list of ubuntu-system-settings bugs that I already had open :)10:10
aquariusI was pretty impressed at how fast you found it, I must admit10:10
aquariusalthough my hypothesis was "blimey, mpt must be even more annoyed at this not working than I am" :)10:10
mptI lack Bluetooth hardware, otherwise I would have finished bug 1097132 long ago10:11
ubot5bug 1097132 in Bluetooth Menu "Check design of indicator-bluetooth" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109713210:11
t1mpmpt: to be honest, I don't know what should be the default font-size for Text { }. But we do recommend to use Label { } for which we defined the font-sizes that we want to be used on ubuntu. See http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Components.Label/10:11
aquariusmpt, I can attach a screenshot to that bug, but I suspect you'd rather have more in-depth testing than just looking at a picture of the UI10:12
mptt1mp, so what you’re saying is that on Rusty’s levels of API correctness <http://sweng.the-davies.net/Home/rustys-api-design-manifesto>, on this issue we score 3/10? :)10:13
mpt“Read the documentation and you’ll get it right”10:13
mptTheming Text{} would bring us up to 7/10, I think10:14
mptaquarius, yeah, I have Bluetooth in my Mac and can use the menu no problem, it’s just the various peripherals that need testing.10:15
t1mpmpt: I understand your point of view, but Text{} comes from QtQuick, and the components that we theme inherit from StyledItem which is an Ubuntu component10:16
aquariusPossible alternative (since I suspect Label brings along with it a bunch of other useful behaviour): theme Text{} to be 20pt bright red on a yellow background by default, or something. So people have to explicitly style it, at which point they'll style it right, and it makes for easy googling ("Why is my text red in my Ubuntu app? aargh!", "Answer: you're using Text{}. Don't do that. Use Label{}.")10:16
t1mpmpt: if something is wrong with the default size of Text it may be an upstream bug10:16
t1mpmpt: I can still have a look at it, but my device is not cooperating now. I need to wait for it to charge enough10:17
t1mpzsombi: ^as the theming expert, what do you think?10:18
mptt1mp, understood. But if someone has used QtQuick before they’ll expect Text{} to DTRT. And if they haven’t used QtQuick before, that we get bits of our SDK from a different project is something they shouldn’t have to care about. It’s like blaming Gnome for the coherence of Ubuntu on the PC: “Gnome who?”10:18
LaneyIt actually looks alright on desktop but it's too small on phone for me10:19
t1mpmpt: I would also expect Text to do the right thing. I'll check what it does here when my device comes back to life10:19
mptcool, thanks10:20
t1mpmpt: one thing that will be handy before reporting it as an UITK bug, is to reproduce the issue in a small qml file10:22
hesamhello,I want to install Ubuntu touch on nexus 7 2013,which file I just download to install Ubuntu touch without PC?10:42
ogra_you need the ubuntu-device-flash tool to install it properly10:42
ogra_(which means you need a PC)10:43
ogra_there is a dual boot hack, but you wont be able to upgrade from that anymore10:43
hesamubuntu-device-flash ported for windows?10:44
hesamor just for Linux?10:45
ogra_i fear only for ubuntu10:47
hesamOK tnx.10:48
davmor2Morning all10:59
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zsombimpt: so, what's the problem? I see you want to theme/style Text{}? do I get it right?12:04
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Saviqjdstrand, hey, re: bug #1287689, you can actually get the launcher out when swiping right-to-left? as unity8 doesn't rotate at all yet, this shouldn't be possible...13:28
ubot5bug 1287689 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "launcher on right when phone upside down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128768913:28
Saviqi.e. bug #v13:28
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Saviqbug #1210199 grr13:28
ubot5bug 1210199 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[Shell] support rotation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121019913:28
jdstrandSaviq: yep, I can do it on my nexus 4 image 19413:42
jdstrandactually, I said it wrong13:42
jdstrandlet me update the bug13:42
Saviqjdstrand, ah, now we're talking :)13:42
Saviqjdstrand, if you can swipe from right to left to get the launcher, that's known - shell doesn't rotate at all yet13:43
Saviqjdstrand, and the bug above is about it13:43
jdstrandI thought if I went left to right the launcher came up-- it is if I go right to left it does13:43
Saviqjdstrand, yeah, that's "shell doesn't rotate"13:43
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ogra_just use some mirrors13:43
jdstrandSaviq: ok, thanks13:45
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barrymandel: hi.  have you had any luck building your package?  i haven't, either in an armhf chroot or on my device14:11
mandelbarry, no, and I have no arm device...14:31
mandelbarry, have you tried directly in the tablet?14:31
mandelbarry, it really is possible.. you can always just do a make and then run it manually14:31
barrymandel: i did, but i couldn't get all the build deps installed :/  i reflashed the device last night so i am going to try again today14:35
nerochiarobfiller: on the nexus 4, does an album display more than 1 picture per screen anyway ?15:23
bfillernerochiaro: 2 pics per screen15:23
bfillernerochiaro: should be the same on galaxy nexus15:23
nerochiarobfiller: i see only one per screen15:24
bfillernerochiaro: hmn, you sure you have multiple pictures added in the album? should be the same15:25
nerochiarobfiller: i have half a dozen. on the desktop i see two per screen, on the galaxy nexus one per scren,15:26
nerochiarobfiller: i'll have a look into this too15:26
bfillernerochiaro: ok, on the desktop I have 4 per screen :)15:26
nerochiarobfiller: ok, that's weird15:26
bfillernerochiaro: make sure to export DESKTOP_MODE=1 on the destkop15:26
nerochiarobfiller: i mean, two per page, two pages per screen, on the desktop15:27
nerochiarobfiller: on the galaxy nexus i see one page at a time and each page had one picture15:27
bfillernerochiaro: ok same desktop behavior, 2 pages per screen with 2 pics each15:27
bfillernerochiaro: nexus 4 behavior is 1 page with 2 pics displayed on it15:28
nerochiarobfiller: ok, so i'll check with someone else with a g nexus to verify15:28
nerochiarooSoMoN: for example, can you tell me when you open an album with many pictures in it, in gallery on galaxy nexus how many pictures there are at the same time on screen ?15:29
oSoMoNnerochiaro, there’s no reason for the behaviour on maguro to be different to mako15:31
nerochiarooSoMoN: agree. but it is different here15:31
oSoMoNI’ll give it a try here15:31
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bfillernerochiaro: just tried it on galaxy nexus. seeing same behavior as Nexus 4. 2 photos per page and I can change pages with a swipe15:36
ogra_barry, are you aware of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-touch-mako-smoke-daily/115/artifact/clientlogs/ubuntu_system_settings/_usr_sbin_system-image-dbus.32011.crash/*view*/? i wonder if s-i shouldnt grow something like a --no-logging option or some such to get around that issue15:37
bfillernerochiaro: take photos with the camera, maybe it's dependent on the res of the photo perhaps?15:37
nerochiarobfiller: they are from the camera15:37
nerochiarobfiller: i'll try again deleting pictures and re-taking them15:38
bfillernerochiaro: what image are you running?15:38
nerochiarobfiller: i flashed yesterday morning15:38
oSoMoNnerochiaro, bfiller: not a matter of resolution, it depends on the orientation of the picture15:38
oSoMoNnerochiaro, try taking pictures in landscape15:38
nerochiarooSoMoN:  ah yes, they are all in portrait15:38
bfillernerochiaro, oSoMoN : mine are all portrait as well and still ge t2 per page15:39
oSoMoNon my device I’m seeing portrait pictures taking the whole page, and 2 landscape pictures per page15:40
bfilleroSoMoN: can you navigate the pages when you have multiple pages with 2 pictures per page?15:40
nerochiarooSoMoN: same here15:40
nerochiarobfiller: the 2-pic pages can't really be flipped properly, you're right15:43
WebVisitor-0Hello, I'm trying to use ubuntu + multitouch pqlabs but after installing the driver the multitouch doesn't work. Some one have an idea pliz?16:05
idebugAre developer tools installed.. 0 ..developer tools are not installed.16:33
idebugDo anybody know which package this means?16:34
pmcgowanidebug, what are trying to do, compile on the device?16:38
pmcgowanbzoltan1, ^^16:38
idebugdetect ubuntu device using ubuntu-sdk16:40
t1mpzbenjamin: ^ are you working on device detection too?16:41
zbenjamint1mp: yes16:41
idebugI'm installing ubuntu-dev-tools and will see again.16:41
t1mpzbenjamin: that's what I thought :) maybe you can help idebug out16:42
zbenjaminidebug: thats the detection script thats running in the background, developer tools was used for compiling on the device i think16:42
pmcgowanidebug, you dont need developer tools16:44
pmcgowanzbenjamin, we should suppress the raw output or make it more meaningful16:44
idebugpmcgowan:I could start the emulator sometimes.16:45
zbenjaminpmcgowan: agreed, the 0 and 1 output really does not help16:46
idebugo means not installed ,1 means installed. Is not it?16:47
zbenjaminpmcgowan: i was wondering if we should also remove legacy things like developer tools, we are compiling the click targets anyway16:49
pmcgowanzbenjamin, yes we should, we still need to do a total overhaul on the workflow16:49
idebughow to uninstall an app in the ubuntu-touch?17:01
popeyidebug: hold finger down on the app, then in preview choose "uninstall"17:01
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bfillerSaviq: is the expansion pattern (like used in app/music previews) in the SDK or specific to shell only?17:05
idebugpopey: Can't find the app icon in the Installed catalog.17:06
idebugpopey: and in the dash no icon display,just blank.17:07
balloonsbfiller, can someone from your team have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1285958?17:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1285958 in Ubuntu Clock App "Reccuring Alarm can't be set for sunday" [High,Confirmed]17:24
balloonsbfiller, renato and boiko both appear to be out this week17:25
bfillerballoons: renato will look at it first thing tomorrow when he's back from holiday17:25
balloonsbfiller, :-) ty17:25
bfillerballoons: np, we'd look at it earlier but renato is the main guy with expertise here17:26
balloonsbfiller, I was simply obligated to ask, so.. I understand and I'm sure renato will be able to fix it17:26
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JoseExpositoHi! I'm trying to port this App to Ubuntu Phone https://github.com/JoseExposito/ubuntuone-qt-files But it uses Qt 5.2...18:09
JoseExpositoDoes anyone know if it is possible to compile Qt 5.2 for Ubuntu Phone or it will be available in the future?18:10
ogra_Ubuntu Phone probably too by end of the week :)18:10
ogra_its already in the queue18:10
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JoseExpositoogra_ Really? Good stuff, thank you, I'll wait fee days in this case, thank you! I suppose that it'll be only update my ubuntu-sdk ppa, isn't it?18:16
ogra_well, the switch will probably not be smooth, so it might take a while until we can realase an image containing it18:17
Hashcodedid the gitweb URL change for phablet?18:17
Hashcode http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb18:17
ogra_Hashcode, it runs gerrit now ... dropping gtiweb should redirect you properly to the new URL18:19
ogra_(code-review.u.c or so)18:19
TassadarHashcode: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/admin/projects/ clicking gitweb links on this page is as close as you can get to previous state, I don't think you can see list of projects in gitweb anymore18:20
ogra_yeah18:20
Tassadarwhich is a bit inconvinient, beceause gerrit doesn't show when was the project last changed :/18:20
ogra_the gerrit UI is a bit different (and a lot less helpful imho)18:20
Hashcodeah18:21
HashcodeI see it18:21
Hashcodethanks ogra_ and Tassadar18:21
JoseExpositoogra_ Do you know, more or less, when this image will be available?18:27
ogra_JoseExposito, plans are to start the landing tomorrow ... so some point this week there should be a testable image i guess18:28
JoseExpositoogra_ Ok, thank you very much for the information!18:29
cwaynemardy, hiya, just curious if the online-account click hooks have made it in yet18:33
rickspencer3I got a freeze flo when I tried to launch an application that I just installed in the app scope18:35
rickspencer3is it worth logging a but on this?18:35
rickspencer3oops, call that a reboot18:36
cwaynerickspencer3, launching it from the preview?18:37
Tassadarrickspencer3: real device reboot (like, did you see the google logo in the meantime) or just restart of unity?18:37
rickspencer3cwayne, it was launching from the preview after install18:37
rickspencer3Tassadar, no, it was just unity I think18:37
cwaynerickspencer3, hm, i know we had a bug about that, not sure that it was causing unity resets before though, let me check18:38
rickspencer3cwayne, note that this is flo, so ... before release and all that18:38
cwaynerighto18:38
ogra_rickspencer3, not updated to a proper image yet ?18:39
ogra_my flo is pretty stable here18:39
rickspencer3ogra_, oh, I thought one wasn't ready18:39
ogra_(with the official -proposed image)18:39
rickspencer3ogra_, I used: ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap --channel=devel-proposed18:40
ogra_we havent promoted one yet18:40
ogra_ah, hmm, that should actually have given you the right thing18:40
rickspencer3it works quite nicely18:40
ogra_yeah18:40
rickspencer3ogra_, it feels like the right thing18:40
rickspencer3solid, fast, smooth graphcis18:40
ogra_there are known unity8 issues (not related to flo)18:40
rickspencer3I did log this hideous bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/128784318:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1287843 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Online Accounts Launcher Icon has No Image" [Undecided,New]18:41
ogra_see the last mail to the phone ML from davmor218:41
rickspencer3not exactly a ship stopper18:41
rickspencer3;)18:41
ogra_yeah18:41
ogra_:)18:41
rickspencer3now that I think of it, on first run, this app has to do a lot of setup18:41
rickspencer3I wonder if that was the "frozen" part18:42
ogra_that would still be a bug :)18:42
rickspencer3anyway ... I'll just forget about it and bask in the beauty of flo for a while18:42
ogra_:)18:43
ogra_the display is so beautiful18:43
rickspencer3I will log the easy bugs18:43
rickspencer3also, grid units ftw !18:43
rickspencer3ogra_, so ... I ran top, and online accounts is pegging the cpu :/18:46
ogra_bah18:46
ogra_i only ever register the U1 account, no probs with that18:46
rickspencer3ogra_, that's all I registered :/18:46
ogra_hmm18:46
rickspencer3I killed settings in the Applications scope18:46
rickspencer3still taking up a core18:47
rickspencer3ogra_, shall I just log a bug, or is there something useful I could add to the report?18:47
rickspencer3hmmm, or should I be asking cwayne?18:47
ogra_i think davmor2 talked about something similar18:47
davmor2rickspencer3: if you check the crash log, cp /var/crash/_usr_....crash /tmp, cd /tmp, apport-unpack _usr_....crash crash-file, gdb <package>  crash-file, the hit bt eventually if you see d8f8 it's known and horrendous and a pain in the neck, if that helps18:48
davmor2rickspencer3: there is a unity8 crasher and a qmlscene crasher both have that ending in the crash file bt18:49
* rickspencer3 checks18:49
rickspencer3davmor2, there is this: _usr_lib_arm-linux-gnueabihf_upstart-app-launch_desktop-hook.32011.crash18:51
rickspencer3which I assume is the unity reboot on launching from the preview18:52
rickspencer3davmor2, but this 100% cpu thing18:52
rickspencer3just log a bug, or is there some info I can collect?18:52
rickspencer3kenvandine, where do I log a bug against online accounts?18:53
kenvandineyou can log it against account-plugins package if you're not sure what specific project18:54
kenvandinethere are a bunch of projects18:54
davmor2rickspencer3: I'm assuming it is connected to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/128773618:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1287736 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "System Settings -> Accounts and back shows black screen and 5s delay" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:54
davmor2rickspencer3: what showing as eating the core in top?18:55
davmor2rickspencer3: I'm hoping for either apport or the accounts app :)18:56
rickspencer3davmor2, online-acc+18:56
davmor2rickspencer3: okay I'll see if I can replicate it, this is on flo right?18:57
rickspencer3davmor2, yeah18:57
rickspencer3so I installed two apps18:57
rickspencer3installing the second was when I got the crash18:57
rickspencer3not sure when the cpu pegged, though18:57
cjwatsonargh, I wish the emulator would quit getting stuck18:58
cjwatsonso aggravating18:59
* rickspencer3 tries dropping 3.1 gigs of music onto flo19:00
cjwatsonis the x86 emulator worth testing with now?  I'd like something that doesn't make me want to rip my eyes out, but don't want to be using it for real verification if it's still seriously experimental19:01
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davmor2rickspencer3: So as the account page is closing if I flip to top it is using 61% on online-acc+  but then once it closes completely it is zero'ed and disappears.19:12
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rulip1hi, i am currently trying to setup ubuntu on nexus 4, am on step 3 but not sure how to get host key?19:53
rulip1"On the workstation-> adb kill-server; adb start-server", do i need to be in a particular folder when running those commands from terminal?19:54
balloonsrulip1, it will prompt when you plug in19:54
balloonsrulip1, nope19:55
rulip1a prompt on the phone? i don't get any popup when i plugin to laptop?19:55
balloonsif adb works you are fine19:55
rulip1so am i ok to proceed with terminal commands, ok will try now19:56
balloonssome versions of android will prompt about unknown host on the phone in a popup after you connect19:56
balloonsif 'adb devices' shows your device, it's working19:57
rulip1where does "adb devices" show? i don't see it19:58
balloons$ adb devices20:00
balloonsList of devices attached20:00
balloons0123456789ABCDEFdevice20:00
rulip1i unplugged device and ran commands with sudo, plugged it back it and got popup that i accepted/ ok'd20:02
rulip1still don't see "adb devices" anywhere on phone20:03
balloonsadb is the command line tool on your pc20:03
balloonshttp://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html20:03
rulip1ha, oh ok. thought i was supposed to see it on phone20:03
balloonsrulip1, hah.. no worries. you should like ubuntu-device-flash should work fine20:03
balloonserr.. yea, it should be flashable now20:04
balloonsping m-b-o20:04
m-b-oballoons: huhu!20:04
rulip1thanks for advice balloons :)20:05
balloonsm-b-o, shall we get weather in shape mate?20:05
balloonsrulip1, you are welcome20:05
m-b-oballoons: yeah20:05
m-b-oI'm on mako r197 and cannot reproduce the bug from elopio20:05
popeyballoons: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1287522 ?20:06
balloonswell, first things I think is to make sure weather deals with not getting network data well I suspect20:06
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1287522 in Ubuntu Calculator App "Issues upgrading from Calculator app v0.1.3.209 to v0.1.3.218 via Upgrade Manager" [Undecided,New]20:06
popeyI have observed this on my device20:06
popeywill look into it further, but it's annoying that calc keeps coming back in update manager20:06
balloonspopey, no I hadn't.. does it not like the version?20:07
m-b-oballoons: it handles network problems with a message box20:07
popeyi dont know, needs more looking20:07
balloonsm-b-o, right.. but I've seen it stumble in the past.. Anyways, let's go at things one by one heh20:07
balloonsm-b-o, I guess we can start with the failures from the dashboard20:08
m-b-oballoons: was accidentellly commented out for some revisions ;)20:08
balloonsm-b-o, oO :-) lol20:08
m-b-oballoons: but is back in since last week20:08
* balloons repeats, "I'm not crazy", "I'm not crazy"20:08
rulip1in terminal i go "ubuntu-device-flash" and its saying command not found? i did setup the ppa in step one?20:09
balloonsrulip1, what version of ubuntu?20:09
rulip113.1020:09
rulip1saucy20:09
balloonssudo apt-get install phablet-tools20:10
rulip1ran that and it says "already newest version", i skipped step 2 thinking device was unlocked, i'll try go back and do step 220:12
balloonsrulip1, the device does need to be unlocked. I'm curious if ubuntu-device-flash is even on saucy20:13
balloonsphablet-flash was the old tool name; my guess is that is all you have20:13
rulip1not on saucy, so people on saucy can't do this?20:14
balloonsphablet-flash --help show things?20:15
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balloonsindeed ubuntu-device-flash is only on saucy. I'm not sure why the instructions were changed. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-device-flash&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all20:18
balloonssergio made the change.. rsalveti any thoughts on why we say use ubuntu-device-flash which is only in trusty atm?20:18
popeycan we get it backported?20:19
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balloonsI assume phablet-flash will still accomplish things properly.. just odd the change occurred20:20
rulip1yeah the help commands returns...20:21
rulip1phablet-flash is used to provision devices. It does a best effort to deploy in20:21
rulip1different ways.20:21
rulip1etc20:21
balloonsrulip1, yea, that should do the trick for you20:21
rulip1so i should run "phablet-flash"?20:21
popeyballoons: i think we mistakenly assumed either a) everyone is on trusty, or b) ubuntu-device-flash was in saucy and below.20:22
balloonsrulip1,  phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --bootstrap20:22
balloonsrulip1, ^^ that will bootstrap and install the latest stable dev image which is probably what you want20:22
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=recall&rev=8520:22
popeythat revision of the page is accurate20:22
balloonsyep20:22
rulip1i went back and unlocked via step 2, now i get...20:28
rulip1error: device not found20:28
rulip1ERROR:phablet-flash:Device either not connected, doesn't have adb enabled or the property system cannot be accessed. Make sure the device is booted into the operating system and that adb is working correctly20:28
rulip1ah had to tick enable debugging again after unlocking, so hold onn could have it...20:29
rulip1ok, looks like its doing stuff/ working :)20:30
rulip1thanks for the correct command balloons, would have been banjo'd without it :)20:32
balloonsnice!20:32
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pmcgowanpopey, what happened to my updates to the install page20:47
pmcgowanballoons, you nuked all my install page changes20:48
popeypmcgowan: eh? he hasn't as far as I see20:49
popeythey were just tweaked to fix a few typos20:49
pmcgowanpopey, its all back to the old bad syntax20:49
pmcgowando a diff to previous20:49
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=diff&rev2=93&rev1=9220:50
* popey refreshes20:50
pmcgowanright its busted20:50
popeyeh? no.20:50
popeyI dont see the issue.20:50
pmcgowanoh hang on20:50
pmcgowanmay be over reacting20:51
popey:D20:51
pmcgowanI thought bootstrap needed true as an arg20:51
pmcgowanperhaps not20:51
pmcgowanand we dont really need --20:51
pmcgowanso I assume its ok as it is20:51
popeyit barfs if you have - for some parameters20:51
popeyyou have to --20:51
cwayneyou also don't need the = in --channel i dont think20:51
pmcgowancwayne, yeah you do20:51
pmcgowanwell, I can say that the previous command lines were not workign for folks20:52
rulip1it says finished, but then under that it says....20:52
cwaynei'm like 90% sure i've done ubuntu-device-flash --channel trusty before20:52
rulip1INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for install to finish on device. Please do not unplug device until phablet-flash finishes.20:52
popeyrulip1: thats good20:52
balloonspmcgowan, I shouldn't have nuked anything.. the changes I made reflect the current syntax20:52
rulip1and i still see the android robot on device, this normal?20:52
pmcgowanballoons, tahts fine nm me20:53
balloonspmcgowan, :-)20:53
pmcgowanbut phablet-flash is deprecated for sure, we need to nuke that20:53
pmcgowanor make it call u-d-f20:53
* popey edits20:54
balloonspmcgowan, right.. my concern is a couple things.. 1, the ppa seems also deprecated right? 2, u-d-f isn't availible outside of trusty20:54
rulip1ERROR:phablet-flash:Installation is taking too long or an error occured along the way.20:54
rulip1anything i can do or am i f*@&%$?20:55
pmcgowanballoons, pretty sure u-d-f was added to saucy in the ppa20:56
pmcgowanI was running on saucy until yesterdya20:56
pmcgowanwe need to talk with sergio when he is back20:56
balloonspmcgowan, I checked the ppa.. it's not in there at all20:57
pmcgowanballoons, I got it from somewhere20:57
pmcgowanbut now I upgraded so hard to check20:57
balloonsright.. well it's not in the archive anywhere but trusty; and nothing has been pushed to https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/tools in a month20:59
pmcgowanballoons, I have to agree with you21:00
pmcgowanballoons, I may have installed the trusty deb directly21:00
pmcgowanballoons, will work it out with sergio21:01
balloonspmcgowan, kk. Thanks for running with it. I trust you'll get the wiki sorted as well once it's all settled21:02
pmcgowanballoons, yeah, I did not realize the other than trusty issue21:02
popeyyeah, i missed that too, thanks balloons21:03
popeyWe could split the page in two, one for 14.04 and one for 13.10 and below21:03
popeywouldn't take much effort21:03
balloonspopey, a quick link to the rev85 version for saucy and below for now?21:04
balloonsthen kill it once it's solved21:04
popey3 pages..21:04
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balloonsrulip1, did you reboot after unlocking bootloader?21:04
pmcgowanpopey, I think we should consolidate all this stuff in the sdk ppa anyway21:04
balloonsrulip1, I find it doesn't stick well if you don't21:05
popeyTouch/Install which has links to Touch/Installing_on_14.04 and Touch/Installing_on_13.10_and_below21:05
pmcgowanpopey, might be easier to just get u-d-f in the tools ppa for now21:05
pmcgowanas the instructions say21:05
balloonsI can't imagine it has hard dependencies on anything in trusty :-)21:06
rulip1it gave me that "took to long" message, so assumed it failed. so was downloading android version to try redo it but i have ubuntu on phone, so seems to have worked. just going through phone seeing if ok21:06
pmcgowanballoons, I really was running it on saucy, just cant recall where I got it21:06
pmcgowanpopey, lets make the page be true by fixing the ppa to have it21:07
popeyok21:07
pmcgowanpopey, shall I get that package moved over or something you can do?21:08
popeyi can do that21:09
pmcgowangreat thanks21:09
popeywell, i can try ☻21:09
balloonsrulip1, nice.. a precursory warning21:09
balloonswell.. look at you popey with all the permissions21:09
* balloons stands back to take it all in21:09
rulip1i don't see were i enter wifi password? am in network settings but not seeing anything21:10
balloonspull down the indicators from the top21:11
rulip1yeah i see that, i just don't see a input box to enter a password, my network is not showing up21:12
rulip1seems great except for no wifi connection :(21:17
popeypmcgowan: which releases are you expecting support for in the ppa?21:21
pmcgowan12.04 and 13.10 would be good21:22
pmcgowanpopey, ^^21:22
popeyhmm21:22
popeymight be tricky, will see21:22
popeyit depends on stuff only in trusty21:23
popeygolang-pb-dev which does the progressbar21:23
pmcgowanpopey, I swear I ran it on saucy ...hmmmm21:25
popeyhe may have added progress bar more recently than you ran it21:25
pmcgowanpossible21:25
pmcgowanas I dont recall any progress bad21:25
pmcgowanbar21:25
pmcgowanpopey, wait I thought all go code was self contained with static links21:27
popeyyeah, once built21:27
popeybut you have to build it21:27
pmcgowanwhat about just copying the bianry pcakges staright over21:28
pmcgowanits not depending on stdlibc or anything21:28
popeyyou can copy binary packages from ppa to ppa21:28
popeydunno about from archive to ppa21:28
popeynever done that21:28
* popey rummages in the bowels of launchpad21:28
pmcgowanpopey, cant you just dput the package or something21:29
* pmcgowan doesnt know what he is saying21:29
popeynot the binary, no21:30
popeyi know what you're suggesting ☻21:30
popeypmcgowan: can you run update manager on your phone and update everything then tell me what happens when you click "check again"?22:17
pmcgowanpopey, aye aye22:17
pmcgowanpopey, you mean app update manager?22:17
popeyyes22:17
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pmcgowanpopey, I see the same two updates as before (calculator and weather), and a third entry (another calculator)22:20
popeyhmm22:20
popeyin ~/.cache/upstart/dbus.log I see Error  9 removing file with path "/home/phablet/.local/share/ubuntu-download-manager/Downloads/com.ubuntu.calculator_0.1.3.218.209_all.click"22:20
pmcgowanI did not leave the screen after the two updates were done22:20
popeyyeah, you're getting same as me22:20
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/click-update-manager/+bug/128752222:20
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1287522 in Click Update Manager "Issues upgrading from Calculator app v0.1.3.209 to v0.1.3.218 via Upgrade Manager" [Undecided,New]22:20
pmcgowanpopey, that issue seems different? I saw the entire download and install for each app22:22
pmcgowanpopey, and weather app is also still showing an update22:22
popeyi thought I'd filed a bug for this, but can't find it.22:22
popeyI think they're related22:22
popeyi see the same error as victor on mine22:22
pmcgowanpopey, when I close update-manager then rerun it, I see only the calculator update22:23
pmcgowanso I am guessing u-m has another bug about clearing done updates22:23
pmcgowanfromt he ui22:23
popeyok, I'll file it22:23
popeywill anyone look at it?22:23
popeyAIUI u-m is going away22:23
pmcgowanit is at any moment, but could be backend end smarts22:24
pmcgowanoops22:24
pmcgowanpopey, defintely file it22:24
popeyk22:24
popeypmcgowan: what do you see in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.calculator?22:26
popeymost recent is 209 right? even though you updated 218?22:26
popeyi have a feeling its an inconsistency in the versioning...22:26
* popey rummages22:26
pmcgowanpopey, 20922:27
cwaynewooo!22:27
cwayneclick hooks for online accounts!22:27
popeyright, I am now convinced22:28
popeyballoons:     "version": "0.1.3.209",22:29
popeyin the manifest22:29
pmcgowanpopey, store check tool should catch that?22:29
popey      "text": "'0.1.3.218.209' != '0.1.3.209' from DEBIAN/control"22:30
popeyyup22:30
balloons0.1.3.218.20922:30
balloonswho/what mpushed that?22:30
balloonsmwc I'm sure22:30
popeyNew version: 0.1.3.218.209 on 2014-02-20 22:59 - 1 week, 4 days ago22:31
popeyyeah22:31
popeyright, lets get it fixed22:31
popeyballoons: got time to crank out rev 224?22:33
balloonsalready building22:35
balloonsoh noes.. the builders are offline :-(22:35
balloonslast build is 22322:36
popeyballoons: thats fine22:36
popeythat gives us something to release next week ㋛22:36
balloonsheh22:37
popeypmcgowan: I can't see how to get a package from the archive into that ppa without a lot of manual building22:37
popeywell, backporting22:37
pmcgowanpopey, can you build a trusty version in the ppa, then copy it to saucy?22:37
popeyoh, that will work.22:38
popeygood thinking batman22:38
pmcgowanyw22:38
pmcgowanpopey, then maybe remove the trusty package from the ppa for clarifty22:38
pmcgowanwho new word22:39
popeyI think your keyboard is broken22:39
pmcgowannaw its my fingahs22:39
pmcgowanpopey, my phone is locked up tight on the greeter, wont take input22:41
popeypmcgowan: can you adb shell in?22:41
popeyprobably apport is eating it alive22:41
pmcgowanyes nothing weird running22:41
popeyinteresting sidenote, I found out what the word apport means today from the glossary of a book from 197522:42
pmcgowanpopey, the time is updating but I cant swipe anything22:42
popeywonder if the digitiser isn't responding22:42
pmcgowanpopey, I just set it down to check that calc file22:43
pmcgowanplugged in to usb, was fine before22:43
pmcgowanthen I noticed the screen didnt trurn off22:43
balloonspopey, build is pushed22:44
popeyballoons: thanks!22:44
pmcgowanmterry, hey I have a mako with a locked up greeter that wont go away22:45
* popey pushes goget-ubuntu-touch_0.2+14.04.20140227.1-0ubuntu2~ppa~trusty to ppa22:45
popeyto test22:45
popeyballoons: did you build 224?22:45
mterrypmcgowan, curious.  Locked up how?22:45
pmcgowanmterry, not respoding to any touches22:46
pmcgowanbut time is updating22:46
balloonspopey, jenkins built it for me.. nice guy22:46
popeyHe's a great guy.22:46
popeyI would offer to buy him beer but he never turns up.22:46
pmcgowanmterry, but device is up and all processes seem normal22:46
mterrypmcgowan, does turning on and off again work?22:46
* mterry sounds like Windows tech support22:46
mterrypmcgowan, I just mean screen22:46
mterrypmcgowan, not rebooting22:46
pmcgowanmterry, yes and now it works again22:47
balloonspopey, :-)22:47
mterrypmcgowan, interesting...22:47
mterrypmcgowan, I've not seen that22:47
pmcgowanme neither22:47
mterrypmcgowan, sounds like Mir tuned on screen but not input22:47
popeyballoons: ok, running AP22:48
popeycross all the fingers22:48
pmcgowanmterry, yeah its weird, the screen never dimmed or turned off after timeouts22:48
pmcgowanmterry, heisenbug, will watch for it22:49
popeywow, have we suddenly got a truckload of builders?22:54
popeyevery ppa push I've done has built near-instantly22:54
popeyballoons: annoyingly Ran 28 tests in 219.302s23:20
popeyFAILED (failures=1)23:20
balloonspopey, ohh what test failed?23:21
popeyre-running23:21
popeyRan 28 tests in 221.793s23:30
popeyOK23:30
popey\o/ ship it!23:30
balloonsohh boy23:30
balloonsthis qt5 loading bug is annoying23:31
popeyapproved23:34

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