[03:41] <rezan> hi
[03:44] <rezan_> hi,i have huawei android phone and want to install ubuntu for my adroid phone . can i install ubuntu on my phone if yes let me know step by step for installing ubuntu for my phone
[03:46] <rezan_> hi,i have huawei android phone and want to install ubuntu for my adroid phone . can i install ubuntu on my phone if yes let me know step by step for installing ubuntu for my phone
[03:46] <genii> rezan_: I of course already pointed you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ...the only Huawei I see listed there is the Huawei Ascend G300 . If that is not your device, then it is not ( yet) supported
[03:47] <rezan_> thanks genni
[03:49] <rezan_> i have huawei valiant y301a1..i thinks this has no support...thanks anyway
[03:50] <genii> rezan_: Perhaps keep checking the web page every couple weeks or so, someone may begin porting for it
[04:01] <rezan_> i have another phone ie.samsung galaxy note II model no.:-sgh-t889. is there anything for that for installing ubuntu
[04:01] <genii> rezan_: Again, please consult the page.
[04:02] <genii> I get the feeling you are not even bothering to read it at all :)
[04:02] <rezan_> i didnt see anything for that model number so i ask here
[04:28] <ErrorofRuto> realizing that the nexus 7 2012 support has been deprecated, does/will it still work?
[04:56] <WinCamXP> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu Touch on my 16GB Nexus 7 2013 flo and I wanted to know what the terminal password is. "ubuntu" did not work
[05:08] <WinCamXP> oh, it's "phablet" apparently - just tried random things myself. That should probably be documented somewhere
[06:06] <cimpox> hello all
[06:07] <cimpox> can anybody help me to use ubuntu phone on acer Z120?
[06:07] <WinCamXP> what's the problem cimpox ?
[06:07] <WinCamXP> general usage or a specific problem?
[06:08] <cimpox> well  I don't know if I can install on this device... because I would like to try
[06:08] <cimpox> you think it could work?
[06:09] <cimpox> I have a linux laptop at home and I would like to use on my phone too... :D
[06:09] <WinCamXP> well, possibly, I'm googling it now
[06:09] <WinCamXP> if not you could try chrooting debian within your Android install
[06:09] <cimpox> tks
[06:10] <cimpox> that means???:S
[06:10] <cimpox> to run inside android?
[06:10] <WinCamXP> basically you run Debian inside normal android
[06:10] <cimpox> aha
[06:10] <WinCamXP> Debian's root directory is changed, hence "chroot"
[06:10] <WinCamXP> so what Debian sees as "/" is actually like "/sdcard/debian" or whatever
[06:10] <WinCamXP> actually I think there might be issues chrooting from sdcrd, I forget
[06:10] <cimpox> aha
[06:11] <WinCamXP> but they're both running simultaneously
[06:11] <WinCamXP> and you can apt-get install tightvncserver and whatever windowmanagers and stuff
[06:11] <WinCamXP> install whatever VNC client on android, and connect to localhost
[06:11] <cimpox> aha
[06:11] <cimpox> tks I'll try now.. :)
[06:12] <WinCamXP> there are some apps that do it all for you, but you can be limited on space
[06:12] <cimpox> what kind of apps?
[06:13] <WinCamXP> I remember trying this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyndns.sven_ola.debian_kit
[06:13] <WinCamXP> there's also BotBrew Basil which isn't exactly Debian, but is a port of dpkg/apt to Android so you end up with basically the same thing
[06:14] <cimpox> tks a lot
[06:22] <moegreen> hey guys just got ubuntu loaded on my galaxy nexus..is there a way to import my contacts off my sim?  I dont see how to populate my contact list.
[06:47] <moegreen> hello?
[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <mardy> dholbach: hi! Maybe you know the answer of this, or can help me find someone who does:
[08:03] <Mirv> who'd have a good CMake foo? to disable gtk doc tests in lp:hud. bug #1287580
[08:03] <Mirv> fixing the tests welcome too of course
[08:03] <mardy> dholbach: is it possible to update click applications which are preinstalled in the device?
[08:04] <mardy> dholbach: and generally, how does one update click applications? Are new versions downloaded by the Update tool in system settings?
[08:11] <dholbach> hi mardy
[08:12] <dholbach> mardy, I don't really know how the mechanism works to get click apps on the image, but for general updates of click apps, you upload them to the software store and then the update tool in system settings should take care of the rest
[08:15] <mardy> dholbach: OK, I was asking because we'll soon allow account plugins to be shipped as click packages, and I was wondering if/how we could update them in case they stop working (if the provider changes authentication parameters or blocks our keys for some reason)
[08:16] <dholbach> mardy, I guess it'd be handled just like every other click package
[08:18] <mardy> dholbach: yep; I just didn't know if the Update tool would bother updating click packages or if the user had always to manually look for updates in the applications scope
[08:33] <zbenjamin> bzoltan1: man the ubuntudevices widget does really everything .... i just started to pull it apart ...
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[08:59] <genii> That was mildly annoying.
[09:06] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Grammar Day!  :-D
[09:13] <Utgenius> Hello there. Anybody around?
[09:16] <Utgenius> I have a question. Can I install the one of the beta images of Ubuntu Touch (the one meant for the Galaxy Nexus) on a Samsung Galaxy S1?
[09:19] <Utgenius> I have a question. Can I install the one of the beta images of Ubuntu Touch (the one meant for the Galaxy Nexus) on a Samsung Galaxy S1?
[09:23] <nhaines> !devices | Utgenius
[09:58] <mpt> Who’s on the toolkit team these days?
[09:59] <mpt> Besides zsombi
[10:00] <mpt> Aha, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+members#active
[10:02] <t1mp> mpt: what do you need?
[10:03] <mpt> t1mp, someone to confirm or disprove my hypothesis that bug 1286262 is a theme bug, not a System Settings bug.
[10:05] <t1mp> mpt: we don't theme Text{}. For themed text, use Label
[10:06] <t1mp> mpt: my device is charging, I cannot verify the issue on phone now.
[10:06] <mpt> t1mp, I think that’s restating the question. :) If it’s too small by default, perhaps we should theme it to fix that.
[10:07] <mpt> Otherwise it’s a boobytrap in the SDK … “Oh, you used Text{}? Silly you.”
[10:08] <t1mp> mpt: which qml file (in system settings) has the code that shows the text?
[10:08] <t1mp> ah, License.qml? :)
[10:08] <aquarius> Hm. I can connect to a bluetooth headset, but when I do so, the Music app doesn't play through it on a Nexus 4; it plays through the phone speaker as normal. Is this known? If not... where should I file it? I don't know whether it's a bluetooth problem, a pulseaudio problem, a music app problem...
[10:08] <mpt> t1mp, I’ve never seen the code, but that sounds right :)
[10:09] <mpt> aquarius, bug 1240979
[10:09] <aquarius> ha! excellent. My search-fu is obviously weak today. Thank you mpt
[10:10] <mpt> aquarius, it just happened to first in the list of ubuntu-system-settings bugs that I already had open :)
[10:10] <aquarius> I was pretty impressed at how fast you found it, I must admit
[10:10] <aquarius> although my hypothesis was "blimey, mpt must be even more annoyed at this not working than I am" :)
[10:11] <mpt> I lack Bluetooth hardware, otherwise I would have finished bug 1097132 long ago
[10:11] <t1mp> mpt: to be honest, I don't know what should be the default font-size for Text { }. But we do recommend to use Label { } for which we defined the font-sizes that we want to be used on ubuntu. See http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Components.Label/
[10:12] <aquarius> mpt, I can attach a screenshot to that bug, but I suspect you'd rather have more in-depth testing than just looking at a picture of the UI
[10:13] <mpt> t1mp, so what you’re saying is that on Rusty’s levels of API correctness <http://sweng.the-davies.net/Home/rustys-api-design-manifesto>, on this issue we score 3/10? :)
[10:13] <mpt> “Read the documentation and you’ll get it right”
[10:14] <mpt> Theming Text{} would bring us up to 7/10, I think
[10:15] <mpt> aquarius, yeah, I have Bluetooth in my Mac and can use the menu no problem, it’s just the various peripherals that need testing.
[10:16] <t1mp> mpt: I understand your point of view, but Text{} comes from QtQuick, and the components that we theme inherit from StyledItem which is an Ubuntu component
[10:16] <aquarius> Possible alternative (since I suspect Label brings along with it a bunch of other useful behaviour): theme Text{} to be 20pt bright red on a yellow background by default, or something. So people have to explicitly style it, at which point they'll style it right, and it makes for easy googling ("Why is my text red in my Ubuntu app? aargh!", "Answer: you're using Text{}. Don't do that. Use Label{}.")
[10:16] <t1mp> mpt: if something is wrong with the default size of Text it may be an upstream bug
[10:17] <t1mp> mpt: I can still have a look at it, but my device is not cooperating now. I need to wait for it to charge enough
[10:18] <t1mp> zsombi: ^as the theming expert, what do you think?
[10:18] <mpt> t1mp, understood. But if someone has used QtQuick before they’ll expect Text{} to DTRT. And if they haven’t used QtQuick before, that we get bits of our SDK from a different project is something they shouldn’t have to care about. It’s like blaming Gnome for the coherence of Ubuntu on the PC: “Gnome who?”
[10:19] <Laney> It actually looks alright on desktop but it's too small on phone for me
[10:19] <t1mp> mpt: I would also expect Text to do the right thing. I'll check what it does here when my device comes back to life
[10:20] <mpt> cool, thanks
[10:22] <t1mp> mpt: one thing that will be handy before reporting it as an UITK bug, is to reproduce the issue in a small qml file
[10:42] <hesam> hello,I want to install Ubuntu touch on nexus 7 2013,which file I just download to install Ubuntu touch without PC?
[10:42] <ogra_> you need the ubuntu-device-flash tool to install it properly
[10:43] <ogra_> (which means you need a PC)
[10:43] <ogra_> there is a dual boot hack, but you wont be able to upgrade from that anymore
[10:44] <hesam> ubuntu-device-flash ported for windows?
[10:45] <hesam> or just for Linux?
[10:47] <ogra_> i fear only for ubuntu
[10:48] <hesam> OK tnx.
[10:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[12:04] <zsombi> mpt: so, what's the problem? I see you want to theme/style Text{}? do I get it right?
[13:28] <Saviq> jdstrand, hey, re: bug #1287689, you can actually get the launcher out when swiping right-to-left? as unity8 doesn't rotate at all yet, this shouldn't be possible...
[13:28] <Saviq> i.e. bug #v
[13:28] <Saviq> #1210199
[13:28] <Saviq> bug #1210199 grr
[13:42] <jdstrand> Saviq: yep, I can do it on my nexus 4 image 194
[13:42] <jdstrand> actually, I said it wrong
[13:42] <jdstrand> let me update the bug
[13:42] <Saviq> jdstrand, ah, now we're talking :)
[13:43] <Saviq> jdstrand, if you can swipe from right to left to get the launcher, that's known - shell doesn't rotate at all yet
[13:43] <Saviq> jdstrand, and the bug above is about it
[13:43] <jdstrand> I thought if I went left to right the launcher came up-- it is if I go right to left it does
[13:43] <Saviq> jdstrand, yeah, that's "shell doesn't rotate"
[13:43]  * Saviq dupes
[13:43] <ogra_> just use some mirrors
[13:45] <jdstrand> Saviq: ok, thanks
[14:11] <barry> mandel: hi.  have you had any luck building your package?  i haven't, either in an armhf chroot or on my device
[14:31] <mandel> barry, no, and I have no arm device...
[14:31] <mandel> barry, have you tried directly in the tablet?
[14:31] <mandel> barry, it really is possible.. you can always just do a make and then run it manually
[14:35] <barry> mandel: i did, but i couldn't get all the build deps installed :/  i reflashed the device last night so i am going to try again today
[15:23] <nerochiaro> bfiller: on the nexus 4, does an album display more than 1 picture per screen anyway ?
[15:23] <bfiller> nerochiaro: 2 pics per screen
[15:23] <bfiller> nerochiaro: should be the same on galaxy nexus
[15:24] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i see only one per screen
[15:25] <bfiller> nerochiaro: hmn, you sure you have multiple pictures added in the album? should be the same
[15:26] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i have half a dozen. on the desktop i see two per screen, on the galaxy nexus one per scren,
[15:26] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i'll have a look into this too
[15:26] <bfiller> nerochiaro: ok, on the desktop I have 4 per screen :)
[15:26] <nerochiaro> bfiller: ok, that's weird
[15:26] <bfiller> nerochiaro: make sure to export DESKTOP_MODE=1 on the destkop
[15:27] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i mean, two per page, two pages per screen, on the desktop
[15:27] <nerochiaro> bfiller: on the galaxy nexus i see one page at a time and each page had one picture
[15:27] <bfiller> nerochiaro: ok same desktop behavior, 2 pages per screen with 2 pics each
[15:28] <bfiller> nerochiaro: nexus 4 behavior is 1 page with 2 pics displayed on it
[15:28] <nerochiaro> bfiller: ok, so i'll check with someone else with a g nexus to verify
[15:29] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: for example, can you tell me when you open an album with many pictures in it, in gallery on galaxy nexus how many pictures there are at the same time on screen ?
[15:31] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, there’s no reason for the behaviour on maguro to be different to mako
[15:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: agree. but it is different here
[15:31] <oSoMoN> I’ll give it a try here
[15:31] <nerochiaro> os
[15:32] <nerochiaro> ok, thanks
[15:33] <nerochiaro> whoops 4 topic
[15:36] <bfiller> nerochiaro: just tried it on galaxy nexus. seeing same behavior as Nexus 4. 2 photos per page and I can change pages with a swipe
[15:37] <ogra_> barry, are you aware of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-touch-mako-smoke-daily/115/artifact/clientlogs/ubuntu_system_settings/_usr_sbin_system-image-dbus.32011.crash/*view*/? i wonder if s-i shouldnt grow something like a --no-logging option or some such to get around that issue
[15:37] <bfiller> nerochiaro: take photos with the camera, maybe it's dependent on the res of the photo perhaps?
[15:37] <nerochiaro> bfiller: they are from the camera
[15:38] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i'll try again deleting pictures and re-taking them
[15:38] <bfiller> nerochiaro: what image are you running?
[15:38] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i flashed yesterday morning
[15:38] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, bfiller: not a matter of resolution, it depends on the orientation of the picture
[15:38] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, try taking pictures in landscape
[15:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN:  ah yes, they are all in portrait
[15:39] <bfiller> nerochiaro, oSoMoN : mine are all portrait as well and still ge t2 per page
[15:40] <oSoMoN> on my device I’m seeing portrait pictures taking the whole page, and 2 landscape pictures per page
[15:40] <bfiller> oSoMoN: can you navigate the pages when you have multiple pages with 2 pictures per page?
[15:40] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: same here
[15:43] <nerochiaro> bfiller: the 2-pic pages can't really be flipped properly, you're right
[16:05] <WebVisitor-0> Hello, I'm trying to use ubuntu + multitouch pqlabs but after installing the driver the multitouch doesn't work. Some one have an idea pliz?
[16:33] <idebug> Are developer tools installed.. 0 ..developer tools are not installed.
[16:34] <idebug> Do anybody know which package this means?
[16:38] <pmcgowan> idebug, what are trying to do, compile on the device?
[16:38] <pmcgowan> bzoltan1, ^^
[16:40] <idebug> detect ubuntu device using ubuntu-sdk
[16:41] <t1mp> zbenjamin: ^ are you working on device detection too?
[16:41] <zbenjamin> t1mp: yes
[16:41] <idebug> I'm installing ubuntu-dev-tools and will see again.
[16:42] <t1mp> zbenjamin: that's what I thought :) maybe you can help idebug out
[16:42] <zbenjamin> idebug: thats the detection script thats running in the background, developer tools was used for compiling on the device i think
[16:44] <pmcgowan> idebug, you dont need developer tools
[16:44] <pmcgowan> zbenjamin, we should suppress the raw output or make it more meaningful
[16:45] <idebug> pmcgowan:I could start the emulator sometimes.
[16:46] <zbenjamin> pmcgowan: agreed, the 0 and 1 output really does not help
[16:47] <idebug> o means not installed ,1 means installed. Is not it?
[16:49] <zbenjamin> pmcgowan: i was wondering if we should also remove legacy things like developer tools, we are compiling the click targets anyway
[16:49] <pmcgowan> zbenjamin, yes we should, we still need to do a total overhaul on the workflow
[17:01] <idebug> how to uninstall an app in the ubuntu-touch?
[17:01] <popey> idebug: hold finger down on the app, then in preview choose "uninstall"
[17:05] <bfiller> Saviq: is the expansion pattern (like used in app/music previews) in the SDK or specific to shell only?
[17:06] <idebug> popey: Can't find the app icon in the Installed catalog.
[17:07] <idebug> popey: and in the dash no icon display,just blank.
[17:24] <balloons> bfiller, can someone from your team have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1285958?
[17:25] <balloons> bfiller, renato and boiko both appear to be out this week
[17:25] <bfiller> balloons: renato will look at it first thing tomorrow when he's back from holiday
[17:25] <balloons> bfiller, :-) ty
[17:26] <bfiller> balloons: np, we'd look at it earlier but renato is the main guy with expertise here
[17:26] <balloons> bfiller, I was simply obligated to ask, so.. I understand and I'm sure renato will be able to fix it
[18:09] <JoseExposito> Hi! I'm trying to port this App to Ubuntu Phone https://github.com/JoseExposito/ubuntuone-qt-files But it uses Qt 5.2...
[18:10] <JoseExposito> Does anyone know if it is possible to compile Qt 5.2 for Ubuntu Phone or it will be available in the future?
[18:10] <ogra_> Ubuntu Phone probably too by end of the week :)
[18:10] <ogra_> its already in the queue
[18:16] <JoseExposito> ogra_ Really? Good stuff, thank you, I'll wait fee days in this case, thank you! I suppose that it'll be only update my ubuntu-sdk ppa, isn't it?
[18:17] <ogra_> well, the switch will probably not be smooth, so it might take a while until we can realase an image containing it
[18:17] <Hashcode> did the gitweb URL change for phablet?
[18:17] <Hashcode>  http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[18:19] <ogra_> Hashcode, it runs gerrit now ... dropping gtiweb should redirect you properly to the new URL
[18:19] <ogra_> (code-review.u.c or so)
[18:20] <Tassadar> Hashcode: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/admin/projects/ clicking gitweb links on this page is as close as you can get to previous state, I don't think you can see list of projects in gitweb anymore
[18:20] <ogra_> yeah
[18:20] <Tassadar> which is a bit inconvinient, beceause gerrit doesn't show when was the project last changed :/
[18:20] <ogra_> the gerrit UI is a bit different (and a lot less helpful imho)
[18:21] <Hashcode> ah
[18:21] <Hashcode> I see it
[18:21] <Hashcode> thanks ogra_ and Tassadar
[18:27] <JoseExposito> ogra_ Do you know, more or less, when this image will be available?
[18:28] <ogra_> JoseExposito, plans are to start the landing tomorrow ... so some point this week there should be a testable image i guess
[18:29] <JoseExposito> ogra_ Ok, thank you very much for the information!
[18:33] <cwayne> mardy, hiya, just curious if the online-account click hooks have made it in yet
[18:35] <rickspencer3> I got a freeze flo when I tried to launch an application that I just installed in the app scope
[18:35] <rickspencer3> is it worth logging a but on this?
[18:36] <rickspencer3> oops, call that a reboot
[18:37] <cwayne> rickspencer3, launching it from the preview?
[18:37] <Tassadar> rickspencer3: real device reboot (like, did you see the google logo in the meantime) or just restart of unity?
[18:37] <rickspencer3> cwayne, it was launching from the preview after install
[18:37] <rickspencer3> Tassadar, no, it was just unity I think
[18:38] <cwayne> rickspencer3, hm, i know we had a bug about that, not sure that it was causing unity resets before though, let me check
[18:38] <rickspencer3> cwayne, note that this is flo, so ... before release and all that
[18:38] <cwayne> righto
[18:39] <ogra_> rickspencer3, not updated to a proper image yet ?
[18:39] <ogra_> my flo is pretty stable here
[18:39] <rickspencer3> ogra_, oh, I thought one wasn't ready
[18:39] <ogra_> (with the official -proposed image)
[18:40] <rickspencer3> ogra_, I used: ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap --channel=devel-proposed
[18:40] <ogra_> we havent promoted one yet
[18:40] <ogra_> ah, hmm, that should actually have given you the right thing
[18:40] <rickspencer3> it works quite nicely
[18:40] <ogra_> yeah
[18:40] <rickspencer3> ogra_, it feels like the right thing
[18:40] <rickspencer3> solid, fast, smooth graphcis
[18:40] <ogra_> there are known unity8 issues (not related to flo)
[18:41] <rickspencer3> I did log this hideous bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1287843
[18:41] <ogra_> see the last mail to the phone ML from davmor2
[18:41] <rickspencer3> not exactly a ship stopper
[18:41] <rickspencer3> ;)
[18:41] <ogra_> yeah
[18:41] <ogra_> :)
[18:41] <rickspencer3> now that I think of it, on first run, this app has to do a lot of setup
[18:42] <rickspencer3> I wonder if that was the "frozen" part
[18:42] <ogra_> that would still be a bug :)
[18:42] <rickspencer3> anyway ... I'll just forget about it and bask in the beauty of flo for a while
[18:43] <ogra_> :)
[18:43] <ogra_> the display is so beautiful
[18:43] <rickspencer3> I will log the easy bugs
[18:43] <rickspencer3> also, grid units ftw !
[18:46] <rickspencer3> ogra_, so ... I ran top, and online accounts is pegging the cpu :/
[18:46] <ogra_> bah
[18:46] <ogra_> i only ever register the U1 account, no probs with that
[18:46] <rickspencer3> ogra_, that's all I registered :/
[18:46] <ogra_> hmm
[18:46] <rickspencer3> I killed settings in the Applications scope
[18:47] <rickspencer3> still taking up a core
[18:47] <rickspencer3> ogra_, shall I just log a bug, or is there something useful I could add to the report?
[18:47] <rickspencer3> hmmm, or should I be asking cwayne?
[18:47] <ogra_> i think davmor2 talked about something similar
[18:48] <davmor2> rickspencer3: if you check the crash log, cp /var/crash/_usr_....crash /tmp, cd /tmp, apport-unpack _usr_....crash crash-file, gdb <package>  crash-file, the hit bt eventually if you see d8f8 it's known and horrendous and a pain in the neck, if that helps
[18:49] <davmor2> rickspencer3: there is a unity8 crasher and a qmlscene crasher both have that ending in the crash file bt
[18:49]  * rickspencer3 checks
[18:51] <rickspencer3> davmor2, there is this: _usr_lib_arm-linux-gnueabihf_upstart-app-launch_desktop-hook.32011.crash
[18:52] <rickspencer3> which I assume is the unity reboot on launching from the preview
[18:52] <rickspencer3> davmor2, but this 100% cpu thing
[18:52] <rickspencer3> just log a bug, or is there some info I can collect?
[18:53] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, where do I log a bug against online accounts?
[18:54] <kenvandine> you can log it against account-plugins package if you're not sure what specific project
[18:54] <kenvandine> there are a bunch of projects
[18:54] <davmor2> rickspencer3: I'm assuming it is connected to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1287736
[18:55] <davmor2> rickspencer3: what showing as eating the core in top?
[18:56] <davmor2> rickspencer3: I'm hoping for either apport or the accounts app :)
[18:56] <rickspencer3> davmor2, online-acc+
[18:57] <davmor2> rickspencer3: okay I'll see if I can replicate it, this is on flo right?
[18:57] <rickspencer3> davmor2, yeah
[18:57] <rickspencer3> so I installed two apps
[18:57] <rickspencer3> installing the second was when I got the crash
[18:57] <rickspencer3> not sure when the cpu pegged, though
[18:58] <cjwatson> argh, I wish the emulator would quit getting stuck
[18:59] <cjwatson> so aggravating
[19:00]  * rickspencer3 tries dropping 3.1 gigs of music onto flo
[19:01] <cjwatson> is the x86 emulator worth testing with now?  I'd like something that doesn't make me want to rip my eyes out, but don't want to be using it for real verification if it's still seriously experimental
[19:12] <davmor2> rickspencer3: So as the account page is closing if I flip to top it is using 61% on online-acc+  but then once it closes completely it is zero'ed and disappears.
[19:53] <rulip1> hi, i am currently trying to setup ubuntu on nexus 4, am on step 3 but not sure how to get host key?
[19:54] <rulip1> "On the workstation-> adb kill-server; adb start-server", do i need to be in a particular folder when running those commands from terminal?
[19:54] <balloons> rulip1, it will prompt when you plug in
[19:55] <balloons> rulip1, nope
[19:55] <rulip1> a prompt on the phone? i don't get any popup when i plugin to laptop?
[19:55] <balloons> if adb works you are fine
[19:56] <rulip1> so am i ok to proceed with terminal commands, ok will try now
[19:56] <balloons> some versions of android will prompt about unknown host on the phone in a popup after you connect
[19:57] <balloons> if 'adb devices' shows your device, it's working
[19:58] <rulip1> where does "adb devices" show? i don't see it
[20:00] <balloons> $ adb devices
[20:00] <balloons> List of devices attached
[20:00] <balloons> 0123456789ABCDEF	device
[20:02] <rulip1> i unplugged device and ran commands with sudo, plugged it back it and got popup that i accepted/ ok'd
[20:03] <rulip1> still don't see "adb devices" anywhere on phone
[20:03] <balloons> adb is the command line tool on your pc
[20:03] <balloons> http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html
[20:03] <rulip1> ha, oh ok. thought i was supposed to see it on phone
[20:03] <balloons> rulip1, hah.. no worries. you should like ubuntu-device-flash should work fine
[20:04] <balloons> err.. yea, it should be flashable now
[20:04] <balloons> ping m-b-o
[20:04] <m-b-o> balloons: huhu!
[20:05] <rulip1> thanks for advice balloons :)
[20:05] <balloons> m-b-o, shall we get weather in shape mate?
[20:05] <balloons> rulip1, you are welcome
[20:05] <m-b-o> balloons: yeah
[20:05] <m-b-o> I'm on mako r197 and cannot reproduce the bug from elopio
[20:06] <popey> balloons: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1287522 ?
[20:06] <balloons> well, first things I think is to make sure weather deals with not getting network data well I suspect
[20:06] <popey> I have observed this on my device
[20:06] <popey> will look into it further, but it's annoying that calc keeps coming back in update manager
[20:07] <balloons> popey, no I hadn't.. does it not like the version?
[20:07] <m-b-o> balloons: it handles network problems with a message box
[20:07] <popey> i dont know, needs more looking
[20:07] <balloons> m-b-o, right.. but I've seen it stumble in the past.. Anyways, let's go at things one by one heh
[20:08] <balloons> m-b-o, I guess we can start with the failures from the dashboard
[20:08] <m-b-o> balloons: was accidentellly commented out for some revisions ;)
[20:08] <balloons> m-b-o, oO :-) lol
[20:08] <m-b-o> balloons: but is back in since last week
[20:08]  * balloons repeats, "I'm not crazy", "I'm not crazy"
[20:09] <rulip1> in terminal i go "ubuntu-device-flash" and its saying command not found? i did setup the ppa in step one?
[20:09] <balloons> rulip1, what version of ubuntu?
[20:09] <rulip1> 13.10
[20:09] <rulip1> saucy
[20:10] <balloons> sudo apt-get install phablet-tools
[20:12] <rulip1> ran that and it says "already newest version", i skipped step 2 thinking device was unlocked, i'll try go back and do step 2
[20:13] <balloons> rulip1, the device does need to be unlocked. I'm curious if ubuntu-device-flash is even on saucy
[20:13] <balloons> phablet-flash was the old tool name; my guess is that is all you have
[20:14] <rulip1> not on saucy, so people on saucy can't do this?
[20:15] <balloons> phablet-flash --help show things?
[20:18] <balloons> indeed ubuntu-device-flash is only on saucy. I'm not sure why the instructions were changed. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-device-flash&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:18] <balloons> sergio made the change.. rsalveti any thoughts on why we say use ubuntu-device-flash which is only in trusty atm?
[20:19] <popey> can we get it backported?
[20:20] <balloons> I assume phablet-flash will still accomplish things properly.. just odd the change occurred
[20:21] <rulip1> yeah the help commands returns...
[20:21] <rulip1> phablet-flash is used to provision devices. It does a best effort to deploy in
[20:21] <rulip1> different ways.
[20:21] <rulip1> etc
[20:21] <balloons> rulip1, yea, that should do the trick for you
[20:21] <rulip1> so i should run "phablet-flash"?
[20:22] <popey> balloons: i think we mistakenly assumed either a) everyone is on trusty, or b) ubuntu-device-flash was in saucy and below.
[20:22] <balloons> rulip1,  phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --bootstrap
[20:22] <balloons> rulip1, ^^ that will bootstrap and install the latest stable dev image which is probably what you want
[20:22] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=recall&rev=85
[20:22] <popey> that revision of the page is accurate
[20:22] <balloons> yep
[20:28] <rulip1> i went back and unlocked via step 2, now i get...
[20:28] <rulip1> error: device not found
[20:28] <rulip1> ERROR:phablet-flash:Device either not connected, doesn't have adb enabled or the property system cannot be accessed. Make sure the device is booted into the operating system and that adb is working correctly
[20:29] <rulip1> ah had to tick enable debugging again after unlocking, so hold onn could have it...
[20:30] <rulip1> ok, looks like its doing stuff/ working :)
[20:32] <rulip1> thanks for the correct command balloons, would have been banjo'd without it :)
[20:32] <balloons> nice!
[20:47] <pmcgowan> popey, what happened to my updates to the install page
[20:48] <pmcgowan> balloons, you nuked all my install page changes
[20:49] <popey> pmcgowan: eh? he hasn't as far as I see
[20:49] <popey> they were just tweaked to fix a few typos
[20:49] <pmcgowan> popey, its all back to the old bad syntax
[20:49] <pmcgowan> do a diff to previous
[20:50] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=diff&rev2=93&rev1=92
[20:50]  * popey refreshes
[20:50] <pmcgowan> right its busted
[20:50] <popey> eh? no.
[20:50] <popey> I dont see the issue.
[20:50] <pmcgowan> oh hang on
[20:51] <pmcgowan> may be over reacting
[20:51] <popey> :D
[20:51] <pmcgowan> I thought bootstrap needed true as an arg
[20:51] <pmcgowan> perhaps not
[20:51] <pmcgowan> and we dont really need --
[20:51] <pmcgowan> so I assume its ok as it is
[20:51] <popey> it barfs if you have - for some parameters
[20:51] <popey> you have to --
[20:51] <cwayne> you also don't need the = in --channel i dont think
[20:51] <pmcgowan> cwayne, yeah you do
[20:52] <pmcgowan> well, I can say that the previous command lines were not workign for folks
[20:52] <rulip1> it says finished, but then under that it says....
[20:52] <cwayne> i'm like 90% sure i've done ubuntu-device-flash --channel trusty before
[20:52] <rulip1> INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for install to finish on device. Please do not unplug device until phablet-flash finishes.
[20:52] <popey> rulip1: thats good
[20:52] <balloons> pmcgowan, I shouldn't have nuked anything.. the changes I made reflect the current syntax
[20:52] <rulip1> and i still see the android robot on device, this normal?
[20:53] <pmcgowan> balloons, tahts fine nm me
[20:53] <balloons> pmcgowan, :-)
[20:53] <pmcgowan> but phablet-flash is deprecated for sure, we need to nuke that
[20:53] <pmcgowan> or make it call u-d-f
[20:54]  * popey edits
[20:54] <balloons> pmcgowan, right.. my concern is a couple things.. 1, the ppa seems also deprecated right? 2, u-d-f isn't availible outside of trusty
[20:54] <rulip1> ERROR:phablet-flash:Installation is taking too long or an error occured along the way.
[20:55] <rulip1> anything i can do or am i f*@&%$?
[20:56] <pmcgowan> balloons, pretty sure u-d-f was added to saucy in the ppa
[20:56] <pmcgowan> I was running on saucy until yesterdya
[20:56] <pmcgowan> we need to talk with sergio when he is back
[20:57] <balloons> pmcgowan, I checked the ppa.. it's not in there at all
[20:57] <pmcgowan> balloons, I got it from somewhere
[20:57] <pmcgowan> but now I upgraded so hard to check
[20:59] <balloons> right.. well it's not in the archive anywhere but trusty; and nothing has been pushed to https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/tools in a month
[21:00] <pmcgowan> balloons, I have to agree with you
[21:00] <pmcgowan> balloons, I may have installed the trusty deb directly
[21:01] <pmcgowan> balloons, will work it out with sergio
[21:02] <balloons> pmcgowan, kk. Thanks for running with it. I trust you'll get the wiki sorted as well once it's all settled
[21:02] <pmcgowan> balloons, yeah, I did not realize the other than trusty issue
[21:03] <popey> yeah, i missed that too, thanks balloons
[21:03] <popey> We could split the page in two, one for 14.04 and one for 13.10 and below
[21:03] <popey> wouldn't take much effort
[21:04] <balloons> popey, a quick link to the rev85 version for saucy and below for now?
[21:04] <balloons> then kill it once it's solved
[21:04] <popey> 3 pages..
[21:04] <balloons> rulip1, did you reboot after unlocking bootloader?
[21:04] <pmcgowan> popey, I think we should consolidate all this stuff in the sdk ppa anyway
[21:05] <balloons> rulip1, I find it doesn't stick well if you don't
[21:05] <popey> Touch/Install which has links to Touch/Installing_on_14.04 and Touch/Installing_on_13.10_and_below
[21:05] <pmcgowan> popey, might be easier to just get u-d-f in the tools ppa for now
[21:05] <pmcgowan> as the instructions say
[21:06] <balloons> I can't imagine it has hard dependencies on anything in trusty :-)
[21:06] <rulip1> it gave me that "took to long" message, so assumed it failed. so was downloading android version to try redo it but i have ubuntu on phone, so seems to have worked. just going through phone seeing if ok
[21:06] <pmcgowan> balloons, I really was running it on saucy, just cant recall where I got it
[21:07] <pmcgowan> popey, lets make the page be true by fixing the ppa to have it
[21:07] <popey> ok
[21:08] <pmcgowan> popey, shall I get that package moved over or something you can do?
[21:09] <popey> i can do that
[21:09] <pmcgowan> great thanks
[21:09] <popey> well, i can try ☻
[21:09] <balloons> rulip1, nice.. a precursory warning
[21:09] <balloons> well.. look at you popey with all the permissions
[21:09]  * balloons stands back to take it all in
[21:10] <rulip1> i don't see were i enter wifi password? am in network settings but not seeing anything
[21:11] <balloons> pull down the indicators from the top
[21:12] <rulip1> yeah i see that, i just don't see a input box to enter a password, my network is not showing up
[21:17] <rulip1> seems great except for no wifi connection :(
[21:21] <popey> pmcgowan: which releases are you expecting support for in the ppa?
[21:22] <pmcgowan> 12.04 and 13.10 would be good
[21:22] <pmcgowan> popey, ^^
[21:22] <popey> hmm
[21:22] <popey> might be tricky, will see
[21:23] <popey> it depends on stuff only in trusty
[21:23] <popey> golang-pb-dev which does the progressbar
[21:25] <pmcgowan> popey, I swear I ran it on saucy ...hmmmm
[21:25] <popey> he may have added progress bar more recently than you ran it
[21:25] <pmcgowan> possible
[21:25] <pmcgowan> as I dont recall any progress bad
[21:25] <pmcgowan> bar
[21:27] <pmcgowan> popey, wait I thought all go code was self contained with static links
[21:27] <popey> yeah, once built
[21:27] <popey> but you have to build it
[21:28] <pmcgowan> what about just copying the bianry pcakges staright over
[21:28] <pmcgowan> its not depending on stdlibc or anything
[21:28] <popey> you can copy binary packages from ppa to ppa
[21:28] <popey> dunno about from archive to ppa
[21:28] <popey> never done that
[21:28]  * popey rummages in the bowels of launchpad
[21:29] <pmcgowan> popey, cant you just dput the package or something
[21:29]  * pmcgowan doesnt know what he is saying
[21:30] <popey> not the binary, no
[21:30] <popey> i know what you're suggesting ☻
[22:17] <popey> pmcgowan: can you run update manager on your phone and update everything then tell me what happens when you click "check again"?
[22:17] <pmcgowan> popey, aye aye
[22:17] <pmcgowan> popey, you mean app update manager?
[22:17] <popey> yes
[22:20] <pmcgowan> popey, I see the same two updates as before (calculator and weather), and a third entry (another calculator)
[22:20] <popey> hmm
[22:20] <popey> in ~/.cache/upstart/dbus.log I see Error  9 removing file with path "/home/phablet/.local/share/ubuntu-download-manager/Downloads/com.ubuntu.calculator_0.1.3.218.209_all.click"
[22:20] <pmcgowan> I did not leave the screen after the two updates were done
[22:20] <popey> yeah, you're getting same as me
[22:20] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-update-manager/+bug/1287522
[22:22] <pmcgowan> popey, that issue seems different? I saw the entire download and install for each app
[22:22] <pmcgowan> popey, and weather app is also still showing an update
[22:22] <popey> i thought I'd filed a bug for this, but can't find it.
[22:22] <popey> I think they're related
[22:22] <popey> i see the same error as victor on mine
[22:23] <pmcgowan> popey, when I close update-manager then rerun it, I see only the calculator update
[22:23] <pmcgowan> so I am guessing u-m has another bug about clearing done updates
[22:23] <pmcgowan> fromt he ui
[22:23] <popey> ok, I'll file it
[22:23] <popey> will anyone look at it?
[22:23] <popey> AIUI u-m is going away
[22:24] <pmcgowan> it is at any moment, but could be backend end smarts
[22:24] <pmcgowan> oops
[22:24] <pmcgowan> popey, defintely file it
[22:24] <popey> k
[22:26] <popey> pmcgowan: what do you see in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.calculator?
[22:26] <popey> most recent is 209 right? even though you updated 218?
[22:26] <popey> i have a feeling its an inconsistency in the versioning...
[22:26]  * popey rummages
[22:27] <pmcgowan> popey, 209
[22:27] <cwayne> wooo!
[22:27] <cwayne> click hooks for online accounts!
[22:28] <popey> right, I am now convinced
[22:29] <popey> balloons:     "version": "0.1.3.209",
[22:29] <popey> in the manifest
[22:29] <pmcgowan> popey, store check tool should catch that?
[22:30] <popey>       "text": "'0.1.3.218.209' != '0.1.3.209' from DEBIAN/control"
[22:30] <popey> yup
[22:30] <balloons> 0.1.3.218.209
[22:30] <balloons> who/what mpushed that?
[22:30] <balloons> mwc I'm sure
[22:31] <popey> New version: 0.1.3.218.209 on 2014-02-20 22:59 - 1 week, 4 days ago
[22:31] <popey> yeah
[22:31] <popey> right, lets get it fixed
[22:33] <popey> balloons: got time to crank out rev 224?
[22:35] <balloons> already building
[22:35] <balloons> oh noes.. the builders are offline :-(
[22:36] <balloons> last build is 223
[22:36] <popey> balloons: thats fine
[22:36] <popey> that gives us something to release next week ㋛
[22:37] <balloons> heh
[22:37] <popey> pmcgowan: I can't see how to get a package from the archive into that ppa without a lot of manual building
[22:37] <popey> well, backporting
[22:37] <pmcgowan> popey, can you build a trusty version in the ppa, then copy it to saucy?
[22:38] <popey> oh, that will work.
[22:38] <popey> good thinking batman
[22:38] <pmcgowan> yw
[22:38] <pmcgowan> popey, then maybe remove the trusty package from the ppa for clarifty
[22:39] <pmcgowan> who new word
[22:39] <popey> I think your keyboard is broken
[22:39] <pmcgowan> naw its my fingahs
[22:41] <pmcgowan> popey, my phone is locked up tight on the greeter, wont take input
[22:41] <popey> pmcgowan: can you adb shell in?
[22:41] <popey> probably apport is eating it alive
[22:41] <pmcgowan> yes nothing weird running
[22:42] <popey> interesting sidenote, I found out what the word apport means today from the glossary of a book from 1975
[22:42] <pmcgowan> popey, the time is updating but I cant swipe anything
[22:42] <popey> wonder if the digitiser isn't responding
[22:43] <pmcgowan> popey, I just set it down to check that calc file
[22:43] <pmcgowan> plugged in to usb, was fine before
[22:43] <pmcgowan> then I noticed the screen didnt trurn off
[22:44] <balloons> popey, build is pushed
[22:44] <popey> balloons: thanks!
[22:45] <pmcgowan> mterry, hey I have a mako with a locked up greeter that wont go away
[22:45]  * popey pushes goget-ubuntu-touch_0.2+14.04.20140227.1-0ubuntu2~ppa~trusty to ppa
[22:45] <popey> to test
[22:45] <popey> balloons: did you build 224?
[22:45] <mterry> pmcgowan, curious.  Locked up how?
[22:46] <pmcgowan> mterry, not respoding to any touches
[22:46] <pmcgowan> but time is updating
[22:46] <balloons> popey, jenkins built it for me.. nice guy
[22:46] <popey> He's a great guy.
[22:46] <popey> I would offer to buy him beer but he never turns up.
[22:46] <pmcgowan> mterry, but device is up and all processes seem normal
[22:46] <mterry> pmcgowan, does turning on and off again work?
[22:46]  * mterry sounds like Windows tech support
[22:46] <mterry> pmcgowan, I just mean screen
[22:46] <mterry> pmcgowan, not rebooting
[22:47] <pmcgowan> mterry, yes and now it works again
[22:47] <balloons> popey, :-)
[22:47] <mterry> pmcgowan, interesting...
[22:47] <mterry> pmcgowan, I've not seen that
[22:47] <pmcgowan> me neither
[22:47] <mterry> pmcgowan, sounds like Mir tuned on screen but not input
[22:48] <popey> balloons: ok, running AP
[22:48] <popey> cross all the fingers
[22:48] <pmcgowan> mterry, yeah its weird, the screen never dimmed or turned off after timeouts
[22:49] <pmcgowan> mterry, heisenbug, will watch for it
[22:54] <popey> wow, have we suddenly got a truckload of builders?
[22:54] <popey> every ppa push I've done has built near-instantly
[23:20] <popey> balloons: annoyingly Ran 28 tests in 219.302s
[23:20] <popey> FAILED (failures=1)
[23:21] <balloons> popey, ohh what test failed?
[23:21] <popey> re-running
[23:30] <popey> Ran 28 tests in 221.793s
[23:30] <popey> OK
[23:30] <popey> \o/ ship it!
[23:30] <balloons> ohh boy
[23:31] <balloons> this qt5 loading bug is annoying
[23:34] <popey> approved