[00:41] <gamerchick02> hey cmaloney, how loud are the MX Cherry Black switches?
[00:42] <gamerchick02> or even rick_h_
[00:42] <cmaloney> They're a little quieter than the browns.
[00:42] <gamerchick02> i'm looking to get a decent keyboard for work and i don't want to scare people away with a super loud one (blues are right out unless i put massive 0rings on them)
[00:43] <gamerchick02> oooo
[00:43] <cmaloney> I can lightly tap on them
[00:43] <gamerchick02> the browns aren't too loud i don't think
[00:43] <cmaloney> They're still pretty loud.
[00:43] <gamerchick02> you like the smooth actuation on them
[00:43] <cmaloney> But my co-workers haven't strung me up yet.
[00:43] <gamerchick02> how close are they sitting? i'm in a 4-man cube.
[00:43] <cmaloney> yeah, although they require a heavy touch
[00:43] <cmaloney> Much like playing a piano
[00:43] <gamerchick02> so they're a lot heavier than the browns.
[00:43] <cmaloney> Yep
[00:43] <gamerchick02> oh no
[00:44] <gamerchick02> maybe i should stick with browns then
[00:44] <cmaloney> Actually, not a Piano. MOre like a synbthesizer
[00:44] <cmaloney> so there's a little pushback
[00:44] <cmaloney> but I've become used to it
[00:44] <cmaloney> brb
[00:46] <gamerchick02> ok
[00:47] <cmaloney> fucking hell, I have to reboot my machine to use my fucking microphone
[00:47] <gamerchick02> ugh. sorry to hear that
[00:48] <gamerchick02> good luck
[00:48] <cmaloney> Actually hah ,no I don't. :)
[00:48] <cmaloney> Neat trick
[00:48] <cmaloney> pulseaudio -k
[00:48] <gamerchick02> :)
[00:48] <gamerchick02> nice!
[01:57] <rick_h_> pick squares on when we hit 300 users with bookmarks: https://bmark.us/dashboard
[01:57] <cmaloney> I pick tomorrow
[01:58] <cmaloney> EST tomorrow. :)
[01:58] <rick_h_> heh
[02:00] <waf> what do i get if i win. and do you validate email addresses.
[02:00] <cmaloney> ;)
[02:00] <rick_h_> hah, must have bookmarks, that means valid email and goes through signup process
[02:00] <rick_h_> and no, you can't resign up with +iwannawin@gmail.com
[02:00] <cmaloney> I have several domains. ;)
[02:01] <rick_h_> :P
[05:01] <mrgoodcat> do you log api calls/day?
[05:02] <mrgoodcat> 298 at midnight btw
[10:51] <wolfger> Man, when did Firefox become such a resource hog compared to Chrome?
[10:56] <wolfger> Lately FF has been sucking up over a half gig of RAM. I just opened all the same tabs in Chrome and it's under 200k
[12:50] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:50] <wolfger> OMG. I thought Dilbert was just making this up, but apparently "holacracy" is a real thing (for some value of "real"). http://holacracy.org/how-it-works
[12:50] <cmaloney> wolfger: Which version of FF? I think there's a difference in how they distribute their memory requirements.
[12:51] <cmaloney> ie: Chrome is per-process per tab vs. Firefox's monolithic approach
[12:51] <cmaloney> wolfger: Yeah, I'm not sure how to take that holacracy
[12:51] <cmaloney> On the one hand I think structures in business can be overdefined and strangling
[12:52] <cmaloney> on the other hand it has a feel of "we're empowered but I write the checks"
[12:54] <wolfger> When I first saw the word, I was thinking there was a "holla-back" joke coming. I'm still not sure there isn't one. :-D
[12:55] <rick_h_> morning
[12:55] <wolfger> FF 27.0.1 vs Chrome 33.0.1750.146 m
[12:55] <wolfger> m for mobile? I dunno
[12:56] <wolfger> Yes, Chrome has multiple processes even for a single tab, which is annoying. Still, if I total all the processes up, Chrome is still using about 150k to 200k less than FF
[12:57] <rick_h_> are we seriously taking 200K of ram?
[12:57] <wolfger> sorry... 200 thousand k
[12:57] <wolfger> it's 200k of k-ram
[12:57] <wolfger> :-p
[12:59] <wolfger> My laptop has been feeling sluggish lately, and I'm trying to find a culprit. Finding it baffling that FF sucks up a half gig
[13:01] <brousch> wolfger: Chrome has been annoying me with Reddit on Windows
[13:02] <brousch> Sometimes using up to 1.9GB
 I should just go back to Lyxn </grumble>
[13:03] <wolfger> Lynx*
[13:03] <rick_h_> hah, /me was using links2 the other day
[13:03] <wolfger> or possibly just upgrade my laptop's RAM
[13:03] <rick_h_> how much ram do you have?
[13:04] <rick_h_> I run both chrome and FF and don't go over 4ish GB of ram. That's with lxc containers, etc. Maybe you need a new window manager :P
[13:04] <wolfger> Hah.
[13:05] <wolfger> Yeah, I have way more ram than I'm consuming (6GB)
[13:05] <wolfger> so I'm sure my problem is elsewhere.
[13:05] <rick_h_> "268M awesome"
[13:06] <rick_h_> ssd?
[13:20] <cmaloney> You might want to also check dmesg. There may be a problem.
[13:41] <brousch> I got 2 Acer chromebooks. The C710 is older, but I can upgrade it to 16GB RAM and a laptop HD or SSD. The c720 is newer, has 4GB RAM soldered on, and uses a funky type of SSD
[13:42] <brousch> Most c720s only have 2GB RAM soldered on. The 4GB can only be found second hand and costs $100 more than the 2GB
[14:36] <jrwren> i'm reading the log from yesterday. this carplay looks awesome.
[14:39] <jrwren> i've never had a computer with 16GB of ram. I should get one, just for the heck of it.
[14:42] <brousch> It's funny that a Chromebook is my first computer that supports it
[14:43] <brousch> Hm, I could put 16GB of RAM on this computer with a 16GB SSD
[14:47] <jrwren> its kinda crazy.
[14:47] <jrwren> what uses memory on a chromebook?
[14:47] <jrwren> or is it just so you can have 1000 tabs open?
[14:47] <jrwren> does a chromebook run android apps or something?
[14:51] <brousch> 2GB is just enough to run my usual 10 tabs
[14:51] <mrgoodcat> 2GB is fine for me
[14:51] <brousch> 4GB gives me room to install Ubuntu via Crouton and run Minecraft
[14:51] <jrwren> i think i only have 4GB on this mac.
[14:51] <jrwren> yup, and it is fine as long as I don't want to run VMs
[14:52] <brousch> This is not dual boot, this is Xubuntu in a chroot
[14:52] <mrgoodcat> i could never run vm
[14:52] <jrwren> so 16GB... I'd feel obligated to crunch data or something
[14:52] <brousch> Yeah, I have no real need for 16GB
[14:52] <mrgoodcat> i don't remember what i have in my desktop
[14:52] <mrgoodcat> but i never use it all
[14:52] <jrwren> xubuntu in a chromebook chroot?
[14:53] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: yes
[14:53] <jrwren> that almost makes me want one :)
[14:54] <brousch> And you switch back and forth with a key combo like ctrl+shift+Back (a Chromebook keyboard key)
[14:55] <brousch> https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> i actually prefer chrubuntu though
[14:57] <brousch> Bah, might as well get a regular laptop if you want to run regular linux
[14:57] <mrgoodcat> haha
[14:57] <mrgoodcat> the chroot was a little bit limited
[14:58] <brousch> I just need it for minecraft
[14:58] <jrwren> I'm going to send a bookie gsoc email. my name is jay raymond wren. i am a 19th year professional. I know me some pythons. I code sweet shit. I am interested in bookie
[14:58] <brousch> Using it for development would suck due to the low res screen
[14:58] <brousch> jrwren: You're not a student!
[14:59] <jrwren> brousch: i'll always be a student of life and of rick_h_
[14:59] <mrgoodcat> enroll in online university
[14:59] <jrwren> i'm taking stanford u online freebee courses.
[14:59] <mrgoodcat> university of phoenix
[14:59] <jrwren> no, they are evil.
[14:59] <mrgoodcat> lol
[15:00] <mrgoodcat> t'was a joke anyways
[15:00] <jrwren> i know :)
[15:00] <ColonelPanic001> hi Klaudioh
[15:00] <jrwren> but seriously, hte level of evil of oracle, google, apple, microsoft is a fraction compared to the evil of hte phoenix u
[15:00] <greg-g> hah
[15:01] <Klaudioh> hello
[15:03] <cmaloney> HI Klaudioh
[15:03] <cmaloney> Udacity and Coursera are my classrooms of Choice
[15:03] <cmaloney> Though I'm taking a course at Udemy for Game Design.
[15:04] <Klaudioh> I love Coursera
[15:04] <ColonelPanic001> I'm doing a Coursera course now
[15:04] <ColonelPanic001> but it's in Nutrition
[15:05] <ColonelPanic001> not computery stuff
[15:05] <cmaloney> That's fine
[15:05] <ColonelPanic001> but now I know how malnurished I am
[15:05] <cmaloney> whatever floats your boar.
[15:05] <cmaloney> (I'm not admitting that was a typo)
[15:05] <ColonelPanic001> everyone: Klaudioh is a WSU student / student employee in our group with me and _stink_ and etc. Klaudioh: This is everyone. cmaloney is the guy I told you does the creative-commons metal podcast
[15:06] <ColonelPanic001> cmaloney: I was hoping it wasn't.
[15:06] <cmaloney> :)
[15:06] <cmaloney> New episode release yesterday.
[15:06] <Klaudioh> haha thanks for introducing me and it's nice to meet you all =]
[15:06] <cmaloney> Klaudioh: Welcome to our little corner of the Internet.
[15:07] <ColonelPanic001> I have to get caught up on OMC. Arg. On the other hand, I have tons of it waiting for me, so there's a silver lining.
[15:08] <cmaloney> Episode 90 is a double-decker.
[15:09] <ColonelPanic001> just skip the upper deckers.
[15:10] <jrwren> Klaudioh: my condolences.
[15:11] <Klaudioh> hahaha
[15:12] <greg-g> so, gnutls
[15:12] <jrwren> greg-g: i like openssl :)
[15:12] <greg-g> :P
[15:12] <jrwren> i feel it gets a bad rep.
[15:12] <greg-g> from openssl's changelog "Make openssl verify return errors." heh
[15:12] <greg-g> https://www.openssl.org/news/changelog.html
[15:13] <greg-g> the gnutls advisory, for those who don't know: http://www.gnutls.org/security.html#GNUTLS-SA-2014-2
[15:13] <brousch> jrwren: Really? I didn't know Phoenix was evil
[15:13] <greg-g> very
[15:15] <jrwren> greg-g: in what ways are gnutls important to you?
[15:18] <cmaloney> SSL + TLS more than likely?
[15:20] <greg-g> jrwren: I don't know, it isn't installed on my laptop
[15:25] <greg-g> lol: https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552
[15:26] <jrwren> that is the thing, its rarely used.
[15:26] <jrwren> the only place I have to use gnutls is pycurl is linked against it :(
[15:27] <jrwren> i should say, pycurl in ubuntu.  pycurl itself can build against either
[15:27] <jrwren> but I feel like i worked around that.
[15:29] <cmaloney> greg-g: hah
[15:48] <rick_h_> jrwren: lol, I'll help you polish up your application
[17:05] <rick_h_> very cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umuNhpass4Y&feature=youtu.be mrgoodcat
[17:05] <rick_h_> from https://plus.google.com/104358235952874475094/posts/cPmZofCRSA3
[17:23] <jrwren> lol @ camera up to the screen.
[17:24] <jrwren> maybe they need a screencap program for mir next.
[17:31] <rick_h_> hard to do touch based like that
[17:31] <rick_h_> I guess if you do something where it highlights touch points and such you can do something
[17:39] <jrwren> yes, i didn't see the touch yet
[17:43] <cmaloney> http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/3/5465264/microsoft-cortana-windows-phone-screenshots
[17:44] <cmaloney> Why do I see the following scenario:
[17:44] <cmaloney> "Cortana: where did I park my car?"
[17:45] <cmaloney> "There are 4 car dealerships in the area with 4 or better stars on Yelp"
[17:45] <cmaloney> "Cortana: No, where is my car?"
[17:45] <rick_h_> Cortana?! I mean really? They couldn't think of a better name?
[17:45] <cmaloney> "Do you need towing assistance?"
[17:46] <cmaloney> "Cortana: No, I need to find my fucking car"
[17:46] <cmaloney> "There is a massage parlor on the corner of 4th and Lincoln that specializes in ..."
[17:46] <cmaloney> "Cortana: How much is a new Android Phone?"
[17:47] <cmaloney> "Let me check Google. One moment..."
[17:50] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[17:51] <greg-g> man, that soundtrack for that mir+chrome video is over the top :)
[17:53] <jrwren> jeeves is taken.
[17:53] <jrwren> who is the butler from Batman?
[17:54] <cmaloney> Alfred. Taken.
[17:54] <cmaloney> And since they own Halo it makes sense.
[17:54] <jrwren> I think they could have bought it. The mac program is basically obsolete.
[17:54] <cmaloney> Don't have to worry about some estate coming in to claim naming rights.
[17:55] <jrwren> Cortana is just meh bad.  I'd have prefered Clippy.
[17:55] <cmaloney> and more importantly, back royalties.
[17:55] <jrwren> "Clippy: where did I park my car?"
[17:55] <cmaloney> Clippy has a bunch of baggage though
[17:55] <jrwren> huge baggage
[17:55] <jrwren> still, better than cortana
[17:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: "It appears you are trying to locate something"
[17:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: "Would you like to:"
[17:55] <jrwren> lol
[17:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: "Find your keys"
[17:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: "Find the nearest bridge to commit suicide"
[17:56] <cmaloney> jrwren: "eat an apple"
[17:58] <jrwren> "Clippy: no, said where is my car, I want seppuku"
[17:59] <cmaloney> jrwren: "You appear to be drunk."
[17:59] <cmaloney> jrwren: "Here are some hangover remedies: eggs, water, shotgun"
[18:13] <cmaloney> greg-g: APC = ?
[18:14] <jrwren> a perfect circle?
[18:14] <cmaloney> jrwren: Yeah no.
[18:15] <cmaloney> greg-g: average propensity to consumption?
[18:19] <jrwren> american power company?
[18:20] <greg-g> cmaloney: jrwren "Article Processing Fee"
[18:22] <jrwren> https://gist.github.com/DavyLandman/9351416
[18:22] <jrwren> so cool.
[18:23] <jrwren> maybe not as powerful or flexible, but its far more readable than the sslh beast :) https://github.com/yrutschle/sslh/blob/master/sslh-main.c
[18:45] <cmaloney> greg-g: That's crazy
[18:46] <greg-g> cmaloney: yep.
[18:57] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: cool video. can't wait until i get to try it
[19:02] <waf> haha, i have a coworker who is discovering the joys of Eclipse (the ide)
[19:02] <waf> normally, he curses very rarely
[19:03] <rick_h_> waf: lol
[19:03] <waf> but he just sent out this email `It is slow. And it fucking crashes all the fucking time. What the fuck. Fuck. And when I whined about it. I was told: "Yeah. It does that." Fuck.`
[19:03] <rick_h_> I had someone come into #bookie "How do I get bookie to work with eclipse?"
[19:03] <rick_h_> I ran away
[19:04] <waf> i spent the last year or so on eclipse, so there's a bit of schadenfreude going on here.
[19:07] <brousch> Eclipse is awesome. Eclipse is the best.
[19:16] <jrwren> hahahahaha.
[19:25] <jrwren> omg, django middleware is simple. I had no idea it was so simple
[19:26] <waf> is it just a chain of interceptors? or is it something different?
[19:26] <jrwren> yes, I guess that is all it is.
[19:27] <jrwren> only a single member method to implement.
[19:27] <waf> i always kinda treated django middleware as opaque magic
[19:28] <cmaloney> waf: Same here.
[19:28] <waf> then i looked into clojure a bit, and realized that really everything is just functions all the way down
[19:28] <jrwren> that is true... always
[19:28] <cmaloney> I need to get into the habit of looking more at Python sourcecode.
[19:28] <cmaloney> because a) it's sourcecode, and b) documentation can lie. :)
[19:29] <cmaloney> That and it's kinda neat to see what folks are doing.
[19:30] <jrwren> that is true of every language, not just python
[19:33] <cmaloney> Right, but it's distressing to me that I don't take advantage of it more
[19:33] <jrwren> it should be!
[19:34] <cmaloney> since Python doesn't directly rely on things like .class or .o crap (.pyc files notwithstanding but they're usally accompanied by the .py files)
[19:39] <jrwren> cmaloney: that is a sentence fragment and not a complete thought. What did you mean to say?
[19:41] <waf> made sense to me. he's just saying that python library code is super-accessible
[19:42] <cmaloney> what waf parsed. ;)
[19:42] <jrwren> I didn't read it as a continuation. My bad.
[19:44] <cmaloney> np
[19:47] <jrwren> i don't care what anyone says, python ain't so bad and is downright great!
[19:48] <rick_h_> until it pisses us off with some issue and then it sucks!
[19:55] <jrwren> truth!
[19:55] <jrwren> but today, I love it :)
[20:15] <jrwren> python's thread docs suggest that maybe I should not use it and prefer threading? is this true?
[20:18] <jrwren> i really just want start_new_thread(lambda _,__: ..., (None,None))
[20:19] <rick_h_> heh, threads are ok as long as it's within reason. Quickly you go to multi process module instead
[20:19] <jrwren> its all IO bound
[20:19] <jrwren> i'm asking more about thread module v. threading module
[20:20] <rick_h_> oh, yea, didn't thread get deprecated?
[20:20] <rick_h_> go get http://pythonhosted.org//futures/
[20:20] <rick_h_> the backported module from py3.2
[20:21] <rick_h_> <3
[20:30] <jrwren> that is exactly what I want.
[20:30] <rick_h_> cool
[20:31] <jrwren>  ThreadPoolExecutor().submit(lambda: cache.set('a', long_running_thing()))
[20:39] <jrwren> someone should just make a pypi to ubuntu repo system.
[20:55] <widox> anyone going to KalamazooX this year? http://kalamazoox.org/
[20:56] <rick_h_> no, I always get tempted as it seems cool
[20:56] <widox> I feel like someone went last year...
[20:56] <jrwren> me.
[20:56] <jrwren> yes, I plan to go.
[20:58] <widox> jrwren: ah ok. must be good then for a return visit
[20:58] <jrwren> i liked it.
[20:59] <jrwren> waf was there too IIRC
[20:59] <greg-g> looks cool
[21:00] <greg-g> the videos from last year make it look small
[21:00] <jrwren> i should have been at every one. I've know Mike for many years, but it is often on the weekend of my daughters birthday.
[21:00] <jrwren> it is small. its single track.
[21:00] <jrwren> 100ish people.
[21:01] <greg-g> cool
[21:01] <widox> yeah, that's what I was guessing looknig at the pictures from last year
[21:01] <widox> I like the concept
[21:01] <greg-g> ditto
[21:02] <widox> and, only $50!
[21:03] <ColonelPanic001> Kalamazooks
[21:03] <jrwren> and last year was awesome because github sponsored an open bar at bells after the conference.
[21:04] <jrwren> i was sad I had to drive back to AA at a reasonable hour :)
[21:07] <brousch> jrwren: I've not been there, but the topics seem useless
[21:07] <brousch> Non-technical
[21:10] <widox> brousch: haha. did you read the goal of the conf on the main page?
[21:11] <brousch> widox: Yes. Seems useless
[21:11] <greg-g> "who needs soft skills" says the anthropology undergrad major
[21:11] <greg-g> :P
[21:11] <brousch> Exactly
[21:25] <jrwren> lol @ useles.
[21:25] <jrwren> mental note: never hire brousch
[21:25] <greg-g> lol
[21:25] <jrwren> 'cept I can't really lol, cuz it is really just sad.
[21:25] <jrwren> *sad trombone*
[21:26] <greg-g> rick_h_: you might be interested in this conversation: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_management_tools/Review/Options
[21:27] <greg-g> also, it's happening on our public "team practices" which we've explicitly invited other non-WMF people to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/teampractices
[21:27] <greg-g> (people from Mozilla and Red Hat and a few other places are on there now)
[21:28] <jrwren> no review board?
[21:28] <jrwren> damn, how many devs to WMF have?
[21:29] <greg-g> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff?showall=1
[21:29] <greg-g> I dind't know of review board
[21:30] <jrwren> cool page.
[21:30] <jrwren> well, now you know of reviewboard. I like it.
[21:30] <greg-g> cool
[21:30] <jrwren> rbtools is a nice python package for talking too it too.
[21:31] <rick_h_> reviewboard is cool, I keep wanting to use it for something. Tried to get it into morpace
[21:31] <rick_h_> greg-g: looking
[21:32] <greg-g> huh
[21:33] <rick_h_> huh what?
[21:33] <greg-g> not as clean of a ui as gerrit, it appears to me
[21:33] <greg-g> (review board)
[21:33] <rick_h_> python based, django so easy to hack and support
[21:33] <greg-g> huh was "that's two recommendations for it"
[21:33] <rick_h_> I've not used gerrit though
[21:33] <rick_h_> I've tracked reviewboard dev for a while though
[21:33] <rick_h_> we just end up using LP, then reitveld, then github
[21:34] <rick_h_> I think it's a good active project and being django based it's flexible and easy for my head to get around for the most part.
[21:34]  * greg-g nods
[21:35] <rick_h_> gerrit always seemed more complex, java, etc
[21:35] <greg-g> yeah
[21:35] <greg-g> we want to get away from it
[21:35] <rick_h_> and the few links I've seen to reviews on gerrit I've not found the UX great
[21:35] <greg-g> we're looking at Phabricator
[21:35] <greg-g> well, a few of us are
[21:35] <greg-g> this page represents the bigger org-wide discussion
[21:35] <rick_h_> wow, well not looked at that in a long long time
[21:36] <greg-g> we didn't either, it wasn't ready when we first looked (didn't support pre-commit review...)
[21:36] <rick_h_> yea, that's the biggest thing is wiring it up with CI, for all these tools
[21:36] <rick_h_> we had to write up our own tool to use github in a decent way
[21:37] <greg-g> yeah
[21:37] <greg-g> we won't use github, for a lot of reasons :)
[21:37] <greg-g> (see the talk page)
[21:37] <rick_h_> yea, understood
[21:39] <rick_h_> check out stridercd for CI as well. It's small but seems cool if you're into nodejs stuff.
[21:40] <rick_h_> I started to look at it, but we've got a lot more jenkins know-how internally
[21:41] <greg-g> yeah, same here (re internal knowledge)
[21:41] <rick_h_> I just wish it had a better backup/restore story
[21:41] <greg-g> huh
[21:41] <jrwren> greg-g: you are nuts!  gerrit is vomit compared to review board.
[21:42] <rick_h_> hand editing fields in a UI for setting up and such is a PITA!
[21:42] <jrwren> gerrit is a large part of the reason I cannot contribute to openstack.  it is simply too complex.
[21:42] <greg-g> jrwren: that demo instance looks too ugly to me, gerrit is much clearn (ie: not full of bright colors)
[21:42] <jrwren> reviewboard is nice and simple.
[21:42] <greg-g> yeah, it's a pain
[21:43] <rick_h_> I setup a reviewboard instance back at morpace and it's wasn't bad. It's definitely worse in that demo because all the data is in the stale alarm state.
[21:43] <rick_h_> I'd expect most of your stuff to not be months old and red
[21:43] <rick_h_> and it's django so easy to customize the design/templates :)
[21:43] <rick_h_> once you get past the awful django templates
[21:43] <jrwren> its django? ha! i had no idea.
[21:44] <rick_h_> yea
[21:44] <jrwren> oh come on now... its not aweful. it just jinja2 lite.
[21:44] <greg-g> :)
[21:44] <rick_h_> yea, awful
[21:45] <jrwren> greg-g: really? no gnutls for you?  on ubuntu its linked to libcups2 and libgnome and libgnomevfs :(
[21:45] <greg-g> jrwren: I was wrong
[21:45] <greg-g> I looked at gnutls-bin, not libgnutls26
[21:46] <jrwren> oh, NOW i see your follow up tweet :)
[21:46] <greg-g> :)
[21:46] <jrwren> hey, I liked your first tweet too. it prompted me to check for myself :)
[21:46] <greg-g> :)
[21:46] <greg-g> a learning experience for everyone
[21:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: cool though, we should do a lococast with cmaloney and chat about tooling and such like that at some point.
[21:48] <rick_h_> greg-g: would be cool to share the thoughts/process you guys used and what not
[21:48] <greg-g> definitely!