[05:23] <Kilos> morning Squirm nuvolari not_at_work and others
[05:24] <Kilos> inetpro dik water klere vandag
[05:32] <nuvolari> hallo oom Kilos 
[05:44] <Spekko> morning morning
[05:45] <Kilos> hi Spekko 
[05:45] <Kilos> and jabberwocky93 
[05:46] <Spekko> morning Kilos
[05:48] <jabberwocky93> more Kilos
[06:06] <Squirm> morning all
[06:18]  * Squirm falls asleep
[06:18] <Kilos> haha
[06:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:24] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:13] <inetpro> goeie more
[07:14] <Kilos> dag inetpro 
[07:14] <Kilos> lang water ne
[07:14] <inetpro> kwaai
[08:05] <Kilos> wbb
[08:43] <charl_> good morning
[08:43] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:43]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:47] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[09:03] <Spekko> Maaz: coffee on
[09:03]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:05] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[09:05] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[09:05] <charl_> Spekko: hi
[09:06]  * Symmetria declares that it is hate on alcatel day today
[09:07] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Spekko!
[09:08] <charl_> Symmetria: what happened?
[09:11] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/presentations/ALU-v6-VPLS-problem.pdf
[09:14] <magespawn> good morning all
[09:14] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:15] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[09:16] <magespawn> Symmetria, what does that mean for those of us who might not understand?
[09:16] <Kilos> i missed that
[09:16] <charl_> Symmetria: you are building a metro ethernet network?
[09:17] <Kilos> was upgrading 12.04.4 kde 64bit
[09:17] <Kilos> yay
[09:18] <charl_> magespawn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Private_LAN_Service
[09:19] <Kilos> hi Golynx
[09:19] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[09:19] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[09:20] <Kilos> hi charl_too
[09:20] <Kilos> did you have coffee
[09:20] <Golynx> hi charl_
[09:21] <Golynx> already had 2 cups, will have 3rd in a few minutes
[09:22] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[09:22] <Golynx> in total i take 7 cups a day lol
[09:23] <Kilos> i mean charl_with maaz
[09:23] <Symmetria> charl among other things
[09:23] <Symmetria> thats a diagram of my home connection
[09:23] <Kilos> normally first thing he does is go coffee on
[09:23] <Symmetria> that I was using as a lab 
[09:24] <Golynx> Even the minister of communication says " MTN and Vodacom are holding back SA's technological development " ai!
[09:24] <Golynx> hi Symmetria
[09:24] <Kilos> hey Symmetria i see afrinic still going on
[09:24] <Kilos> tell them to go back to drums
[09:25] <Symmetria> kilos lol afrinic is full of shit
[09:25] <charl_> Golynx: i would say the minister of communication is holding back SA's technological development
[09:26] <charl_> Kilos: i unsubscribed from the list, what ever happened to that debate? still not finished?
[09:26] <Golynx> charl_: haha yeah i dont like the ANC either
[09:27] <charl_> Kilos: i already had coffee before you came in :)
[09:27] <Kilos> nope they still making proposals etc and i cant get to unsubscribe again
[09:27] <Golynx> atleast the current government
[09:27] <charl_> Golynx: he's blaming private companies for his own inability to regulate the industry
[09:28] <charl_> Golynx: and to uncouple infrastructure and services, and get more smaller players into the market who provide local services on a national government-funded infrastructure
[09:28] <magespawn> looks like any large or political organization is Symmetria 
[09:28] <charl_> brb
[09:29] <Golynx> charl_: i agree 
[09:29] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[09:29] <magespawn> hey Golynx 
[09:31] <Golynx> The Democratic Alliance seems more structured than the ANC , and will probably never have these kinda issues. But the ANC will always win , thats sad.
[09:32] <magespawn> i was reading this morning about TIER and OpenBTS
[09:33] <magespawn> maybe that is the way to take on the big guys
[09:41] <Kilos> hi SCR1845-6357A
[09:41] <SCR1845-6357A> Good morning Kilos!
[09:42] <Kilos> is buenos dias appropriate
[09:42] <SCR1845-6357A> yes
[09:42] <Kilos> i learned some mex from clint eastwood
[09:42] <SCR1845-6357A> how's it in af?
[09:42] <Kilos> hehe
[09:42] <Kilos> good here and there?
[09:43] <SCR1845-6357A> oh, I mean, how to say good morning in afrikaans
[09:43] <Kilos> use za instead of af
[09:43] <Kilos> zuid afrika
[09:43] <SCR1845-6357A> yeah, I know that hehe
[09:44] <SCR1845-6357A> why did they change so many names of provinces and cities?
[09:44] <SCR1845-6357A> from afrikaans to tribal languages
[09:45] <Kilos> new govt dont like old names
[09:45] <SCR1845-6357A> I heard that they're about to rename pretoria
[09:45] <Kilos> thats been a fight going on for a coupla years now
[09:45] <SCR1845-6357A> to some unpronounciable name
[09:46] <Kilos> its half and half Tswane now
[09:46] <SCR1845-6357A> twane municipality already or something, right?
[09:46] <Kilos> yeah
[09:49] <SCR1845-6357A> I once downloaded an afrikaans language learning pack
[09:49] <SCR1845-6357A> but never did proper use it of
[09:51] <Kilos> we had a yank here a while back that learned it quite well
[09:52] <Kilos> we have an afrikaans channel too #ubuntu-za-afr
[09:52] <SCR1845-6357A> wow I'll check it out
[09:52] <Kilos> not many peeps there thought
[09:52] <Kilos> though
[09:53] <SCR1845-6357A> only you, actually :-P
[09:53] <Kilos> wait i have something wrong
[09:54] <Kilos> hmm... inetpro what did i do wrong
[09:54] <Kilos> is that channel dead
[09:56] <SCR1845-6357A> maybe it is so at certain hours
[09:56] <Kilos> it used to be open all the time
[09:57] <Kilos> maybe it was closed through lack of use
[09:57] <Kilos> the pro will know
[09:58] <Kilos> maybe afk
[09:58] <Kilos> nope
[09:58] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:58]  * Squirm yawns
[09:58] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[09:58]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:59] <Squirm> Maaz: largest
[09:59] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[09:59] <SCR1845-6357A> well, you'll see that in the za-aft channel none of us is set as mod
[09:59] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[09:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:59] <SCR1845-6357A> so, it should mean that it's open
[09:59] <Kilos> ?
[09:59] <Kilos> chanserv used to be there too. maybe i got something wrong
[10:00] <SCR1845-6357A> when you open a non-existant channel, the server automatically makes you mod
[10:01] <Kilos> superfly: do you know if #ubuntu-za-afr has been closed down?
[10:02] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[10:03] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[10:03] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[10:03] <SCR1845-6357A> some roobos with a drop of milk for me, please
[10:03] <SCR1845-6357A> :-D
[10:06] <Kilos> rooibos is very healthy
[10:09] <Kilos> how do you peeps get to know about rooibos tea
[10:58] <charl_> Kilos: they sell rooibos tea everywhere in europe
[10:58] <charl_> Kilos: i don't know about spain but it is commonplace in NL and DE
[10:59] <Kilos> great
[11:00] <charl_> in DE they call it "rotbusch-tee"
[11:01] <charl_> they even have an info site http://www.rotbuschtee.com/
[11:01] <charl_> "Rotbuschtee - gesund genießen"
[11:01] <inetpro> Kilos: why do you want to send people to another channel?
[11:01] <Kilos> inetpro: our afrikaans channel
[11:01] <Kilos> tell me if it was closed or not dont attack me man
[11:01] <Kilos> grrr
[11:01] <inetpro> Kilos: is it relevant to Ubuntu?
[11:02] <Kilos> well duh
[11:02] <inetpro> I mean your Afrikaans chatter
[11:02] <Kilos> what walked over your liver today?
[11:02] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:03] <inetpro> we all still small enough to handle things in this channel
[11:04] <Kilos> was the afr channel closed????
[11:04] <inetpro> even if it's Afrikaans here or there
[11:05] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel met my volk party keer
[11:06] <inetpro> Kilos: we still have #ubuntu-afr as a channel for those rare occasions when people want to stick to Afrikaans as a language 
[11:08] <inetpro> Kilos: and it is not really meant for discussing politics or religion, these topics can turn into very hot debates very quickly
[11:08] <SCR1845-6357A> hah, thanks for finding it
[11:09] <SCR1845-6357A> charl_ and Kilos, rooibos tea is sold very cheaply here, many varieties of it actually
[11:10] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: do you also have all these flavoured teas that we drink? pickwick/teekanne etc?
[11:10] <SCR1845-6357A> I've got like 250-500 grams at home
[11:10] <SCR1845-6357A> hmm I'm not sure, but likely they sell them here too
[11:11] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: because in NL they usually sell rooibos mixed with other stuff, not plain
[11:11] <SCR1845-6357A> I buy it a little blindly
[11:11] <charl_> you can buy it plain but i have only seen it at the kruidvat once
[11:12] <SCR1845-6357A> well, I have the "cheaper" version and a more pure one which is supposed to be a single variety 
[11:12] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: interesting...
[11:12] <SCR1845-6357A> so, you use to drink it too, charl_ ?
[11:13] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: i like to vary what i drink, not always drink the same thing
[11:14] <charl_> at the moment i am drinking green tea with ginseng
[11:14] <SCR1845-6357A> I can't stand green tea
[11:14] <charl_> this one: http://www.pickwick.nl/thee/groene-thee/ginseng/
[11:14] <SCR1845-6357A> I have several others, but not that one
[11:15] <charl_> green tea is like pre-dinner mayonaise, it's gooood for you
[11:15] <SCR1845-6357A> never tried gingseng, are they psycho effects felt as much as they say?
[11:15] <charl_> i never lost my mind because of drinking it
[11:15] <charl_> if i had to lose my mind it would probably be eclipse-related
[11:16] <SCR1845-6357A> but maybe felt greater focus or something
[11:16] <charl_> i haven't noticed, but maybe
[11:17] <SCR1845-6357A> I've heard that green tea is the one which has the most health propieties
[11:17] <SCR1845-6357A> compared to black white and red varieties
[11:17] <charl_> i like to vary it... then you get some of everything :)
[11:17] <SCR1845-6357A> agreed
[11:18] <charl_> i drink both coffee and tea but no soda
[11:18] <SCR1845-6357A> neither me
[11:18] <charl_> right now i am drinking kenyan coffee, has a very earthy taste
[11:18] <charl_> i'm not sure if i like it or not
[11:18] <SCR1845-6357A> lately, I begun to mix every coffe or tea with ginkgo biloba leaves
[11:19] <charl_> usually, i prefer this: http://dutchmailorder.com/product/dutch-fairtrade-products/albert-heijn-fairtrade-biological-coffee/
[11:19] <charl_> it has a MUCH better taste and aroma
[11:19] <SCR1845-6357A> oh, I thought that kenya was the original procedence site
[11:19] <charl_> oh yes ginkgo biloba is very good
[11:20] <SCR1845-6357A> I guess that you can even do marihuana teas :p
[11:20] <SCR1845-6357A> as you're on the nl
[11:21] <charl_> why on earth would i want to do that, that sounds dangerous
[11:21] <charl_> bbl
[11:21] <SCR1845-6357A> but have you ever brought it?
[11:23] <SCR1845-6357A> a friend of mine gave me some seeds, which I never sowed 
[11:27] <SCR1845-6357A> now, let's create #ubuntu-zu and #ubuntu-xh
[11:28] <Golynx> bad password SCR1845-6357A >_<
[11:28] <SCR1845-6357A> it's a good one
[11:28] <SCR1845-6357A> it never fails
[11:29] <Golynx> you must be spanked! i dont want my password using drugs :/
[11:30] <SCR1845-6357A> hahaha I hate drugs
[11:30] <SCR1845-6357A> but I don't see sense on them being illegal anymore
[11:30] <Golynx> thats a good password :)
[11:31] <SCR1845-6357A> ;-)
[11:32] <Kilos> aha ty inetprothats what i wanted to know. forgot it was ubuntu-afr man
[11:39] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry if I sounded a bit harsh on you
[11:40]  * Kilos cries and sulks inna corner
[11:41] <inetpro> ai!
[11:41] <SCR1845-6357A> oh the drama
[11:43]  * Golynx gives a tissue for Oscar
[11:43] <Golynx> i mean Kilos :p
[11:43] <Kilos> haha you watching it Golynx 
[11:43] <Kilos> all the news is about him
[11:43] <Kilos> ty for the tissue
[11:44] <Kilos> but i was joking, cowboys dont cry, they get even
[11:44] <Golynx> ya Kilos , but only on twitter
[11:44] <Golynx> yw
[11:44] <Golynx> lol
[12:26] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: no i have never bought or used marijuana
[12:26] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: if you use it in tea though that would be dangerous because warm water is rapidly absorbed by the body, i don't know what type of effects that would have
[12:26] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: then again, i guess if you smoke it, you have the same problem
[12:27] <SCR1845-6357A> agreed, was just curious bout it
[12:28] <SCR1845-6357A> actually I hate people that is only into it because it looks cool or rebel
[12:28] <SCR1845-6357A> reciently some youngsters died on a uni at here by eating it
[12:29] <SCR1845-6357A> marihuana with eggs
[12:32] <charl_> lol
[12:32] <charl_> here you get all these shady sh*tbags that hang around those places
[12:33] <charl_> the coffee shops
[12:33] <charl_> and foreigners of course, tons and tons of foreigners
[12:33] <charl_> the only reason i want the law changed is so that we can get rid of the foreigners looking to get stoned
[12:34] <charl_> just because they are being opressed in their own countries they now come here and want to get high
[13:29] <Private_User> afternoon people
[13:29] <Private_User> and bots :)
[13:49] <WOLFEYES> good day all
[13:55] <magespawn> later all
[13:57] <Private_User> good day WOLFEYES
[14:07] <SCR1845-6357A> hi Kilos
[14:59] <Kilos> afternoon peeps
[15:01] <WOLFEYES> heya Kilos 
[15:01] <WOLFEYES> hey Private_User 
[15:01] <Kilos> hi WOLFEYES 
[15:37] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[15:37] <Kilos> have a good night there
[16:21] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[16:24] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[17:08] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos not_found 
[17:08] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[17:11] <kbmonkey> is scr having problems?
[17:15] <kbmonkey> oh my it is only 19h15
[17:16] <Kilos> i dont think he is kbmonkey 
[17:17] <Kilos> hi superfly did you say hellp to me today and i missed it
[17:18] <kbmonkey> hellllp
[17:18] <kbmonkey> I am stuck in a digital tubeee
[17:18] <charl_> hey people
[17:18] <charl_> i am watching a video of wietse venema about postfix
[17:18] <superfly> Kilos: no, not sure what you're talking about
[17:19] <charl_> this is absolutely fascinating
[17:19] <Kilos> oh sorry , hello i mean
[17:19] <Kilos> forgive the typo
[17:20] <kbmonkey> postfix? sounds like posix.
[17:24] <charl_> kbmonkey: you seriously don't know about postfix the mail server ?
[17:24] <charl_> it's like the de facto smtp server now
[17:25] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:26] <theblazehen> hey Kilos 
[17:26] <charl_> hi theblazehen 
[17:26] <theblazehen> hey ChanServ 
[17:26] <charl_> hahahahaha
[17:26] <theblazehen> fuck!!!
[17:26] <theblazehen> hey charl_ 
[17:26] <charl_> i feel like a troll now
[17:26] <Kilos> eeeek
[17:26] <charl_> problem ? :)
[17:26] <theblazehen> lol
[17:26] <Kilos> you to young to swear like that
[17:27] <theblazehen> Kilos, nope?
[17:27]  * theblazehen is getting R25k worth of hardware in around a weeks time...
[17:27] <theblazehen> Well not really FOR me, but I get to use it
[17:28] <Kilos> wonderful, what hardware
[17:28] <theblazehen> 4x R9 280x graphics cards, PSU and rest of PC stuff
[17:28] <Kilos> but anyway that word aint good here
[17:28] <Kilos> wow\
[17:28] <Kilos> you gonna kill bitcoin
[17:29] <theblazehen> lol, I wish...
[17:29] <theblazehen> on litecoin alone around $200 is generated every 3 minutes
[17:29] <theblazehen> shared out amongst everyone
[17:30] <Kilos> wow
[17:36] <kbmonkey> oh the mail server charl_, okay that makes sense. I have not had much dealing with it so I am ignorant in that area.
[17:37] <charl_> these issues with spam is amazing and how they are circumventing it
[17:53] <charl_> tlsa looks interesting, i haven't implemented that yet on my domain
[18:01] <charl_> hi Tinuva 
[18:01] <Kilos> wb Tinuva you got split for a bit
[18:03] <charl_> hi captine 
[18:04] <captine> Hi charl_ 
[18:04] <captine> hi all
[18:04] <Kilos> hi captine 
[18:04] <captine> hi Kilos 
[18:07] <charl_> hmmm this looks intersting: http://symas.com/mdb/
[18:07] <charl_> Symas Lightning Memory-Mapped Database (LMDB)
[18:08] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[18:09] <Kilos> wb Golynx 
[18:09] <captine> charl_, nice.  do you work with databases?  was little dissapointed that ubuntu are sticking with mysql (although it is the only one I really know how to setup...)  was hoping for MariaDB
[18:09] <Golynx> hi charl_
[18:09] <Golynx> ty Kilos
[18:09] <captine> hu Golynx 
[18:09] <captine> hi
[18:09] <charl_> captine: as a developer i work with databases daily
[18:09] <Golynx> hi captine
[18:10] <charl_> redis, mongodb, couchbase, mysql, postgres, oracle, cassandra
[18:10] <charl_> etc
[18:10] <captine> ah.  what sort of dev work do you do?  websites, erp's, mobile apps?
[18:10] <charl_> mostly web-related stuff
[18:11] <captine> do you have a company website?
[18:11] <charl_> eh i work at a university
[18:11] <Golynx> charl_ thats a great list :)
[18:11] <captine> nice
[18:12] <captine> I think I should have gone into development.  Am an accountant by trade...
[18:12] <charl_> you need some of all types of people
[18:12] <charl_> doing tech as a hobby only is not bad
[18:15] <charl_> ok i'm off
[18:16] <charl_> have a good evening all
[18:17] <Golynx> i only know how to work with 2 of those databases, but then again its just sql at the end of the day :) 
[18:17] <Golynx> oops Gone :/
[18:19] <captine> lol
[18:19] <captine> yip.  i just like the mysqladmin tools
[18:19] <captine> but lots of opensource ERP's use postgres, so I am trying to learn it a bit
[18:21] <Golynx> yeah mysql got the lion's share there
[18:21] <Golynx> i never touched postgres , will give that a try someday
[18:22] <Golynx> we just have to keep on learning new stuff if we wana be good at development
[18:23] <Golynx> but always good to stick with one key area too so you can be an expert in that 
[18:27] <superfly> postgres is cool, it's like the open source version of MS SQL Server (at least, that's what you tell damagement)
[18:28] <superfly> these days I don't use a database directly, I use an ORM
[18:28] <superfly> and then it doesn't matter what DB I'm using
[18:33] <Golynx> hi superfly
[18:33] <Golynx> yeah ORM sounds cool, worth its salt
[18:33] <Golynx> hi nlsthzn
[18:34] <Golynx> the easier to use the better, and the more productive too
[18:37] <nlsthzn> o/
[18:38]  * Golynx thinks there should be more creative ways invented to spread the name of Ubuntu in SA
[18:45] <Kilos> i wonder if the varsity peeps actually use the freedom toasters or is it outsiders that go get ubuntu there
[18:46] <captine> orm.  not sure what that is.  will google
[18:48] <Kilos> inetpro i can do the tweet thing again. choqok seems fine in 64bit
[18:48] <captine> ah.  i see.  so are things like codeigniter providing "orm" type functionality, as if I recall, it uses methods etc.
[18:49] <Kilos> hopefully can do all upgrades after 11pm
[18:49] <Golynx> Kilos to me its seems it would be mostly the geeky type hacker/developer wana be type of people that will use that 
[18:49] <Golynx> and ofcours for young kids that dont have pc's ,  they will be introduced to it via that toasters
[18:50] <Kilos> yeah Golynx but there are lots of IT learners at varsity
[18:51] <Kilos> they have rows of pcs there in the same room as the toasters as well
[18:51] <Golynx> but there should be actual applications that will become popular that should carry the ubuntu name 
[18:51] <Golynx> yeah true Kilos
[18:52] <Kilos> they sit and play there on windows and the toaster stands all lonely in the corner
[18:52] <Kilos> twits
[18:53] <Golynx> hmm, that means creativity is lacking in the ubuntu corner
[18:54] <Kilos> yeah toasters need a chick in a bikini to attract attention
[18:54] <Golynx> lol
[18:54] <Kilos> same as at car shows
[18:54] <Golynx> make that 10 chicks in bikini's 
[18:55] <Kilos> half the peeps dont see the cars even
[18:55] <Golynx> :D
[18:55] <Golynx> yeah
[18:56] <Golynx> the main place ubuntu lacks is creating applications that catch the user and keep them 
[18:56] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[18:56] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[18:56] <Kilos> we use debian apps
[18:56] <Golynx> if that can be achieved then ubuntu will rise to the top
[18:57] <Golynx> hi Trixar_za
[18:57] <Kilos> it is rising slowly
[18:57] <Trixar_za> Hey Golynx
[18:57] <Kilos> cities in germany are running linux already if im not mistaken
[18:58] <Kilos> and our govt even threatened to go linux a while back
[18:58] <inetpro> kilos heh!
[18:58] <Trixar_za> An OS's purpose isn't to produce applications, but be a platform for applications to be developed on
[18:58] <Trixar_za> Anyway, WINE helps bridge that gap anyway
[18:58] <nlsthzn> OS's purpose is to give access to use the hardware to be able to make it useful via applications :p
[18:59] <Trixar_za> That too
[18:59] <Golynx> Trixar_za thats true, but that wont make ubuntu unique if it keeps leeching off MS
[19:00] <Trixar_za> You mean Windows - not MS. Other developers and companies produce for Windows - mostly because it's one of the defacto markets (the other one being Apple)
[19:01] <Trixar_za> Also considering the technology, I think MS has been leeching off Linux and it's children more than just a little.
[19:01] <Golynx> yeah i agree there
[19:01] <Golynx> aspecially the user accounts permissions side
[19:03] <Golynx> the biggest card i think for ubuntu could be the ubuntu phone OS
[19:03] <nlsthzn> ubuntu touch... coming very soon
[19:03] <Golynx> lots of potential there for innovation
[19:04] <nlsthzn> and I heard it will be world launch via the internet
[19:05] <Golynx> nlsthzn yeah that will be cool
[19:06] <Golynx> if there are many creative dev's out there to create truly user catching app's , then ubuntu will have a winner there
[19:06]  * nlsthzn might have to let go of his S3 early ... especially if the goal of Touch to have the top 100 applications for android, iphone and bb working in touch becomes reality
[19:06] <Golynx> still thats lacking though
[19:07] <Golynx> lol
[19:08] <Golynx> too early to change now
[19:08] <Golynx> better to wait until its stable enough like the desktop side
[19:09] <Golynx> but yes nothing is easy, and success takes time, if you play your cards right
[19:10] <Trixar_za> Never going to happen
[19:10] <Trixar_za> There's a reason for it - several actually - but it's a very long article to read :P
[19:11] <Trixar_za> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm <--- read it if you're bored :P
[19:13] <Trixar_za> "It is logically impossible for any thing to be better than any other thing whilst remaining completely identical to it" <--- extract
[19:13] <Golynx> lol 
[19:14] <nlsthzn> makes sense
[19:15] <Golynx> no comment
[20:32] <WOLFEYES> Night everyone
[20:47] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight