[00:02] <Chaos_Zero> Any way to force kill a process in a terminal window without closing the window?
[00:02] <foggster> killall?
[00:02] <foggster> You mean the terminal window?
[00:03] <Chaos_Zero> yes
[00:03] <jamesd> pkill  processname is a much better method... killall will get you fired if you run it on solaris as root
[00:03] <Chaos_Zero> like, say I run a python script or something which seems to run forever, not frizen per se but using ctrl+c or ctrl+d wont work
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> Chaos_Zero: open up another terminal and kill the process. or try maybe using ctrl + z to background the process if thats all you want
[00:04] <Chaos_Zero> I am looking for some kind of quick keyboard shortcut
[00:04] <foggster> Well that's something I've learned today
[00:04] <foggster> I've been using killall for years :/
[00:05] <Chaos_Zero> ctrl + z seems to work for this, but what does that do? will it end never?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> Chaos_Zero: that just backgrounds the task. you still need to kill it
[00:06] <Chaos_Zero> is it possible to install some shortcut which will just kill in one step?
[00:07] <foggster> You could just alias them into one if it's that big a problem?
[00:07] <foggster> But is it something you have to do often?
[00:08] <Chaos_Zero> yes, when working on multithreaded programs and I dont feel like strting an eclipse project, lol.
[00:08]  * smokerboy whaa good morning
[00:08] <Chaos_Zero> whaa to you as welll
[00:10] <demophobia> adobe flash isn't working right -- it crashes once i mouseover
[00:10] <demophobia> how do i fix? ...
[00:11] <Rubas> Hi, how do I copy a couple of lines in Nano?
[00:16] <YamakasY> damn I get a disk full on linux headers but the disk is not full (anymore)
[00:16] <mercuryrising> Can anyone help me with a 'dummy output' problem? I'm on Ubuntu 12.10, with kernel 3.5.0-47, and it worked until I restarted my computer, then my sound card is now unrecognized and modprobe can't load the correct sound module. This problem seems to happen around kernel upgrades, and now my previous kernels don't have sound either (so my computer has no sound)
[00:16] <mercuryrising> here's my paste of commands that might be useful - http://pastebin.com/610QqvQS
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: what do you mean? can you pastebin the output of: df -h && df -i
[00:17] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b4f697bbd773d46e1bd1
[00:18] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: I don't have GB's available but still
[00:18] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2a2d6d0cc0d6f7101e9a
[00:18] <YamakasY> should do it for now
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: pastebin the output of: df -i
[00:19] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/980830cbcd9fa67af0d6
[00:19] <YamakasY> that is weird
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: you're out of inodes on /
[00:19] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: impossible
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: find somewhere that has lots of files (prob a log dir) and remove them
[00:20] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: cannot be log
[00:20] <YamakasY> it's seperate
[00:20] <YamakasY> it can be temp now
[00:20] <YamakasY> just a sec
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: you're filesystem is only configured with 183264 inodes. very easy to use them all if not careful
[00:20] <YamakasY> tmp
[00:21] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: I just resized tmp to 1GB and have var 3
[00:21] <YamakasY> but tmp was "corrupted" so I fixed it but did a mount -a
[00:21] <YamakasY> can be that
[00:21] <YamakasY> that /tmp is there
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: resizing won't fix your issue. its not a size issue. its an inode issue
[00:22] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: ok, so overrated lvm ?
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: nothing to do with lvm either. inodes are created when create the filesystem. every file uses 1 inode. so if you intend on having lots of small files on a filesystem you need to create that filesystem with extra inondes
[00:23] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: mhh
[00:23] <YamakasY> never had that before
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: you will need to findout where the inodes in / are being used up and free them
[00:23] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: what's the best to do that ?
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: here's an idea http://stackoverflow.com/questions/347620/where-are-all-my-inodes-being-used try these scripts to locate whats using the most inodes. note that it takes a while to run the script
[00:25] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: uhm I think some linux headers in my /usr/local/src
[00:25] <YamakasY> uhm
[00:25] <YamakasY>  /usr/src
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> YamakasY: try purging old headers
[00:25] <YamakasY> I did that
[00:25] <YamakasY> :S
[00:31] <YamakasY> hitsujiTMO: ok fixed
[00:32] <usr13> YamakasY: If you are out of inodes, the culprit could be lots of little files
[00:32] <YamakasY> usr13: yeah found it
[00:32] <usr13> YamakasY: Check your mail.
[00:32] <usr13> Oh, ok
[00:32] <YamakasY> usr13: mail ?
[00:32] <usr13> Well, I'm late to the conversation.
[00:32] <YamakasY> usr13: local mail ?
[00:34] <YamakasY> usr13: ?
[00:40] <codichulo> any audacity pro's here.
[00:41] <Alphroman> anyone want to help a total linux noob install some NVIDIA drivers? :D
[00:46] <wafflejock> Alphroman: have you tried using the built in hardware drivers
[00:47] <Alphroman> well, when i plug in the graphics card, I get nothing on the screen, regardless of if i plug my monitor into the video card or the motherboard
[00:47] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Not the best thing for a "noob" to get involved with !, What prompts you to change your graphics driver ?
[00:48] <Alphroman> Bashing-om:  Just bought the parts and didn't want to get windows so I was going to go with this.  Might not have been the best choice
[00:48] <wafflejock> Alphroman: are you sure you have all the power cords you need connected to the video card also are you seeing the BIOS screen before boot
[00:48] <wafflejock> If you don't get the BIOS splash screen and a system beep when you start then something is wrong physically
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Generally speaking, any driver you need the kernel will provide them, else 2nd is to use "additional drivers" (utility) to install drivers.
[00:49] <wafflejock> BIOS if you don't know is just the very first screen you see when you boot with just text on it showing your basic system info (RAM and CPU usually)
[00:51] <Alphroman> maybe I should have specified: linux noob. i've previously put together computers, just always windows
[00:52] <wafflejock> cool yeah what Bashing says is true though
[00:52] <Alphroman> ok
[00:52] <wafflejock> ordinarily can just use the additional drivers dialog to add
[00:52] <Alphroman> I get the bios screen
[00:53] <Alphroman> then after that I get something weird
[00:53] <Alphroman> let me take a picture
[00:53] <Alphroman> its like a bunch of numbers running and nouveau E [      PMC] [0000:01:00.0] unknown intr 0x44000000
[00:54] <oinkina> how do you install stuff with a bunch of dependencies (like theano, which needs numpy and scipy etc) without sudo access?
[00:55] <wafflejock> oinkina: you can't write to some of the system folders which will botch the "install" portion of the installation where it needs to put files and symbolic links in place
[00:55] <wafflejock> oinkina: some software like node can be installed as a user by specifying an install directory when building/installing but this varies dependingon the software
[00:56] <Alphroman> This is what I'm getting with the nvidia card plugged in
[00:56] <Alphroman> http://imgur.com/qCWadJ7
[00:57] <wafflejock> Alphroman: not sure did a google and came up with this https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/692774/nvidia-gtx-750ti-issues-ubuntu-13-10/
[00:58] <wafflejock> Alphroman: perhaps you do want to try the newer drivers, would definitely recommend you take a backup before proceeding if you haven't already though
[00:58] <Alphroman> that's the card I have, so at least it isn't just me
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: lookin at your http://imgur.com/qCWadJ7
[00:58] <Alphroman> Thanks guys
[01:00] <Alphroman> when i tried to install the new drivers, I got an error telling me about the x server, so I tried running it after doing the Ctrl+Alt+3 screen, and running 'sudo stop lightdm'
[01:00] <Alphroman> that got me to start the install, but then it told me there was an error with 'nvidia.ko' kernel
[01:00] <Alphroman> which is beyond my knowledge
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: nouveau is the open sourse driver. Not good news to see it erroring., let's back up and see what graphics is in play here. Pastebin -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga and also sudo lshw -C display <-from the recovery console(???).
[01:06] <RainMan28> I'm interested in building a small custom PC to learn ubuntu on, and to just basically get my nerd on. Does anyone have any recommendations for a cheap standalone ubuntu workstation? Won't be doing any gaming.
[01:07] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: now should I try to run this with the NVIDIA card installed or take it out?
[01:08] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: with the card installed. Do you know how to get to the recovery console ?
[01:08] <prudh> digifort
[01:08] <prudh> \join ##digifort
[01:09] <Wulframn> RainMan28, have you considered something like raspberry pi?
[01:10] <Alphroman> Bashing-om:  I think so, one second
[01:10] <RainMan28> Wulframn: yeah I've taken a look at it, but wanted something that wouldn't require too much tweaking to get started with ubuntu. Also I was thinking of having the new machine be an esxi server and trying different builds
[01:11] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: I'm at the recovery menu. Do i do resume?
[01:11] <Alphroman> or root?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Yep "resume normal boot: .
[01:12] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: Ah, ok. I'm booted up
[01:13] <ericmcray> hello guys! I need your advice about raid stuff. I have two 1 TB HDD and i want to make raid 1 with them for my movies, photos, music etc. and i want to access them from windows 7 and ubuntu. What should i use for raid? My motherboard's raid (M5A99X EVO R2.0) or software raid? Thanks for help!,
[01:13] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: OK, recovery mode runns a lower level graphics driver, now can you run the  lspci
[01:14] <Alphroman> just run it in the terminal?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: commannd and tell us what graphics card you have ?
[01:15] <Alphroman> I have the nvidia 750Ti
[01:15] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: yes on the terminal - key combo ctl+alt+t yields a terminal.
[01:16] <Alphroman> ok running "lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga" yielded: VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1380] (rev a2)
[01:18] <Alphroman> and when i ran "sudo lshw -C display" i got "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc '
[01:18] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Well, less info than is real usefull, can you pastenin-> sudo lshw -C display <- ???
[01:19] <Alphroman> oh sorry
[01:21] <Alphroman> Bashing-om:  http://pastebin.com/kGdRdV2K
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: looking at kGdRdV2K .
[01:21] <Alphroman> that's all that happened after "sudo lshw -C display"
[01:22] <AngelKing47> Has anyone been able to turn that annoying Power pop up after resume
[01:24] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Yikes ! I have never seen such a thing. Now I am way out in left field and in the dark. Let's see what the smart guys here can advise.
[01:24] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: haha, sorry for all the issues >.<
[01:25] <Wulframn> I have never seen that before.
[01:25] <axobvop> I'm SSHing into a computer with Ubuntu 12.04 and I want to know where I can find the 2048 RSA key so I can use X2Go.
[01:26] <wafflejock> axobvop: if you're just looking for a private/public key pair they're usually made in ~/.ssh/ by default using sshkeygen
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Do not be sorry at all , this is help channel, that is what we are here for. You are now out of me depth is all, and I too am in a learning mode.
[01:27] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: At least it's relaxing to know it isn't just me then. I was pulling my hair out over here
[01:27] <axobvop> ~/.ssh hasn't been created on the client.
[01:28] <wafflejock> Alphroman: not sure if you mentioned but what distro are you running? lsb_release -a
[01:28] <Alphroman> wafflejock: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[01:28] <wafflejock> hmm k
[01:28] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: You are in a spot where the basic of tools os non-existent, and I have no idea now how to proceed (or what to do !)
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: os/is
[01:31] <axobvop> I had connected from a Windows machine to the Ubuntu client via putty, and when I connect I get the "The authenticity of host ‘<host IP> can’t be established. RSA key fingerprint is <key>" message. I want to know where to find that key.
[01:32] <wafflejock> axobvop: ssh-keygen -lf ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[01:33] <wafflejock> axobvop: according to SO the -l is list instead of create -f is file you're going to give it you would have to be remoted in to the server to view this file
[01:33] <axobvop> what is "SO"?
[01:34] <wafflejock> oh stackoveflow.com
[01:34] <wafflejock> sorry used to shorthanding it when chatting there
[01:34] <axobvop> oh.
[01:34] <axobvop> so i have to do -lf, -l, or -f?
[01:34] <wafflejock> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9607295/how-do-i-find-my-rsa-key-fingerprint-on-ubuntu-10-04-hosted-by-linode
[01:34] <wafflejock> -lf
[01:35] <wafflejock> then the keyfile it looks like, I've done a bit with sshkeygen so I can do passwordless login but not familiar with all the details
[01:35] <axobvop> This particular system does not use ~/.ssh, but a different folder.
[01:35] <wafflejock> axobvop: should be okay as long as you point it at the public key file
[01:35] <axobvop> No, that's the thing. I get a "no such file or directory"
[01:36] <axobvop> Nevermind, I see on the page that on some systems it will be in /etc/ssh, and that's where I found it.
[01:36] <wafflejock> ah okay
[01:36] <wafflejock> news to me
[01:36] <axobvop> This %@$(%$% should be standardized so people don't pull their hair out.
[01:36] <wafflejock> sorry
[01:36] <axobvop> It's not your fault
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Is there an alternate means of graphics on that machine besides the Nvidia card ?
[01:37] <Alphroman> bashing-om: I can use the port from the motherboard
[01:37] <riceandbeans> hey I did dd if=/path/to/.iso of=/path/to/usbstick bs=32768 and my stick won't boot
[01:37] <riceandbeans> what am I doing wrong?
[01:38] <axobvop> Now I have another problem
[01:38] <axobvop> Never mind
[01:38] <psusi> riceandbeans, and what was /path/to/usbstick?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: And with the onboard graphics chip, there is no problem ? -- are welooking at "switchable graphics" by any chance ?
[01:39] <riceandbeans> /dev/sdb
[01:39] <riceandbeans> psusi: ^^
[01:39] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: I had no problems booting from onboard graphics.
[01:39] <psusi> riceandbeans, ok.. and what happens when you tell yuor bios to boot from that drive?
[01:39] <yonyon_> CPU-G  and CPU-Z (inder Wine) report different clock speeds.  Which is correct?
[01:41] <Bashing-om> Alphroman: Humm, waiting on some one smarter on system calls than I am.
[01:41] <riceandbeans> psusi: it skips it and goes to grub
[01:42] <Alphroman> Bashing-om: Ok.  I'm going to go grab a beer because I think the current situation requires it
[01:45] <copec> I moved an Ubuntu 12.04.4 root from a virtuozzo container to a kvm--I installed linux-image-generic and let it consequently install grub.  It doesn't modprobe anything on boot though
[01:45] <copec> would someone happen to know off the top of their head what that could be?
[01:46] <psusi> riceandbeans, try booting it in another or virtual machine?
[01:50] <riceandbeans> psusi: this is for a server
[01:55] <basketball> hi i install xscreensaver and now ctrl alt l or clicking the lock button doesnt work
[01:56] <riceandbeans> basketball: try debian, it works better :)
[01:56] <basketball> debian no i love ubuntu
[01:56] <llr_> yes <u
[01:56] <basketball> this is #ubuntu not #debian
[01:56] <thewrath> hey all
[01:56] <llr_> Ubuntu!!!!!
[01:56] <llr_> Hey
[01:57] <slackerman> hey guys, how can I create a cronjob for a ruby app?   I'm using capifony to deploy my application.. need to run it nightly
[01:57] <basketball> anyone know
[01:59] <riceandbeans> slackerman: laziest way is crontab -e
[01:59] <basketball> hi i install xscreensaver and now ctrl alt l or clicking the lock button doesnt work
[01:59] <urgodfather> hello room, can someone help with a non ubuntu related issue? i swear its easy, just can't figure it out to save my life.
[01:59] <riceandbeans> slackerman: you could also use at
[02:00] <riceandbeans> but that takes a little more finesse
[02:00] <slackerman> riceandbeans: Agreed, unsure how to do that   the command is cap deploy       but cap is a ruby thing, doesn't kick it off in crontab -e
[02:00] <marz_> I changed /etc/hostname ang /etc/hosts file but my terminal still displays username@marz <<< how do I change that?
[02:00] <rww> !hostname
[02:02] <marz_> rww: Yeah, I already did that but my terminal still displays "username@marz"
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> marz_: relog
[02:03] <marz_> hitsujiTMO:  already did
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> marz_: then reboot
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> marz_: or use the hostname command to set the hostname
[02:04] <marz_> Btw, regarding "username@marz" <<<<<< the part where it says username, what is it called is that the hostname?
[02:04] <basketball> hitsujiTMO,  i install xscreensaver and now ctrl alt l or clicking the lock button doesnt work
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> basketball: locking is controlled by the gnome-screensaver    you've just replaced it with xcreensaver. thats why it doesn't work
[02:06] <alumno> khndkisdf
[02:06] <alumno> sdmslafmmdfsa
[02:06] <alumno> adssd
[02:06] <alumno> gsdof
[02:06] <basketball> hitsujiTMO,  does gnome-screensaver have screensavers
[02:06] <alumno> fsdmfd
[02:06] <alumno> fdmfdsṕdpm
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> basketball: not that i'm aware of? why do you want a screensaver? having the screen shut off is better(energy efficient and all tht malarcky)
[02:07] <marchita> hi guys whats up
[02:07] <basketball> hitsujiTMO,  how do i reinstall gnome-screensaver
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> basketball: try just removing xscreensaver and hopefully it will reinstate everything from gnome-screensaver
[02:08] <basketball> hitsujiTMO,  i uninstalled gnome
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> basketball: ahh, sudo apt-get install gnome-screensaver then
[02:09] <basketball> ok do i need to set anything up
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> basketball: hopefully not. it should set itself up
[02:10] <basketball> hitsujiTMO,  how can i test
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> basketball: set the desktop to hit screensaver after 1 min
[02:11] <marchita> someone knows how ican connect androirc to dalnet
[02:11] <riceandbeans> slackerman: write a shell script as a wrapper for it
[02:11] <riceandbeans> slackerman: have crontab run the shell script
[02:13] <riceandbeans> basketball: apt-get install --reinstall gnome-screensaver
[02:19] <jefimenko> is anyone else having trouble w/ youtube today on 13.10? today all youtube  videos are stuck at 0:00 with a black screen. happens on my box and a friend's
[02:21] <codichulo> I'm working fine w/ 13.10
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> hello. i have manually cleared the auth.log file using gedit. when i saved it. the ssh service no longer logs to this file. how do i fix this
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> ? how do i find out where its currently logging to. if it is at all
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: delete the auth.log and restart the ssh service
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: it's prob owned by the wrong user/locked open by a process
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> hitsujiTMO, now i get this: restart: Unknown instance:
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> when trying to restart ssh
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: stop then start.
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> ok that worked. but... auth.log was not recreated
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: restart rsyslog
[02:35] <AcidRain2012> hitsujiTMO, ok thx. its been a very long time since ive added users to ssh
[02:36] <lucasoutloud> Hello everyone! I'm using a distro other than Ubuntu, but I want to know how to add Ubuntu's repositories to synaptic.
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> hitsujiTMO, in the auth.log. im getting password accepted and everything. but then the server closes the connection
[02:36] <lucasoutloud> wait that didn't come out right
[02:36] <lucasoutloud> Anyway does anyone here know where I can find Ubuntu's apt line? I've googled for it and I still can't seem to find it
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: run ssh with -vvv for a more verbose output
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> i have LOGFILE VERBOSE set. it just says the password is expired
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> but i have it set to never expire...
[02:37] <lucasoutloud> wait I found it
[02:38] <JohnCalvin> fuck
[02:38] <JohnCalvin> !ops
[02:38] <JohnCalvin> !staff
[02:39] <AcidRain2012> hitsujiTMO, hmmm... seems a password was never set
[02:39] <AcidRain2012> hang on
[02:42] <JohnCalvin> fuck
[02:44] <naryfa> Very articulate axiom!
[02:44] <JohnCalvin> fuck
[02:45] <somsip> naryfa: please do not feed the trolls
[02:45] <somsip> !ops | JohnCalvin
[02:45] <naryfa> Oh, he's a troll?
[02:45] <JohnCalvin> yay
[02:50] <dpippenger> does anyone know where I can find the source tarball for the kernel used to build the mainline kernels? for example http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.10.31-saucy/
[02:50] <dpippenger> they don't seem to be built using the vanilla 3.10.31 source
[02:53] <ninja_system> hi
[02:53] <JohnCalvin> e
[02:54] <ninja_system> anybody Brasilian?
[02:54] <genii> ninja_system: Probably most people who are in the #ubuntu-br channel :)
[02:55] <Alphroman> sweet jesus I got the nvidia driver installed and working
[02:55] <ninja_system> I know
[02:56] <ninja_system> I like write English
[02:56] <effgee> Hi. Wow, 14 years using Linux, but never as my desktop. Ubuntu 12 + Unity and 2 days on it, I've made it my primary OS. Oh, and ZFS / OpenZFS support finally. Feelsgoodman.jpg sighofrelief.jpg :D
[03:02] <xangua> effgee: just remember zfs is not recomended to use in ubuntu
[03:02] <suhaib> Hey guys, What do you think of this font ? http://i.imgur.com/iYieYoB.png
[03:02] <codygman> Hi, amazon instant video requires hal but hal doesn't seem to be available in 13.10 (saucy). Does anyone use amazon instant video and ubuntu 13.10?
[03:07] <suhaib> Why suddenly silent this room ?
[03:07] <arayaq> Hi, anyone with experience with AMD/ATI dual graphics on a laptop?
[03:07] <somsip> suhaib: your question about the font isn't really relevant here, and the channel does go quite around this time usually
[03:07] <somsip> *quiet
[03:08] <suhaib> arayaq: I'm pretty sure there are a lot. just state your question
[03:09] <suhaib> somsip: well, its Ubuntu condenced font. so I thought it might be relevant :-p
[03:09] <somsip> suhaib: this just isn't the place to ask for opinions. If you have a problem with the font, then it is the place to ask
[03:10] <rezan> hi
[03:11] <suhaib> oh, I just wanted to know if it would hurt your eyes. anyway. you are correct. seems not relevant
[03:12] <somsip> suhaib: #ubuntu-offtopic would be fine for that sort of thing though :)
[03:12] <rezan> hi,i have huawei android phone and want to install ubuntu for my adroid phone . can i install ubuntu on my phone if yes let me know step by step for installing ubuntu for my phone
[03:13] <somsip> !touch | rezan
[03:13] <suhaib> someone: oh, didn't know this exists lol
[03:14] <suhaib> somsip: great. I pinged the wrong person lol
[03:14] <quantal> What is the Itunes of linux?Where can I purchase legit music from?
[03:14] <suhaib> !one | quantal
[03:14] <suhaib> I meant music
[03:14] <suhaib> !music
[03:14] <quantal> Thank You
[03:15] <xangua> suhaib: one store
[03:15] <xangua> that provides music from 7music
[03:15] <xangua> drm free I believe
[03:16] <suhaib> aha
[03:18] <effgee> xangua: Been using it since the beginging of zfs-fuse, it was better than btrfs then, and still is now. :P Never had any corruption other than normal hardware issues (and I'm a hard reset kinda person)
[03:19] <effgee> xangua: Also, I use it for non os operations.. storage and archival.
[03:21] <effgee> Anyone else here think Unity + Nautilus + whatever else is default in 12+ up ...is better than OSX?
[03:23] <jamesd> effgee: not really... don't care much for unity.
[03:23] <somsip> effgee: that sort of question is ideal for #ubuntu-offtopic, rather than here. Thanks
[03:24] <effgee> somsip: Oh, sorry, is this tech support?
[03:24] <somsip> effgee: yep
[03:24] <effgee> thanks for the heads up
[03:24] <somsip> effgee: np
[03:25] <effgee> I'm just excited. I been wanting to switch for for a long time, specifically NTFS having 65535 char limit for files, yet the Windows Gui handling 255 and bombing. It was the last straw so to speak.
[03:33] <ldcicconi> alright interesting problem here. I have ubuntu 13.10 on my macbook pro, and yesterday, out of nowhere, my music buttons stopped working.
[03:33] <ldcicconi> volume, play, everything.
[03:33] <ldcicconi> and the volume toggle disappeared from the top of the screen
[03:36] <rezan> hi,i have huawei android phone and want to install ubuntu for my adroid phone . can i install ubuntu on my phone if yes let me know step by step for installing ubuntu for my phone
[03:37] <ldcicconi> rezan, google is your friend
[03:37] <somsip> !touch | rezan (this is actually your friend, as you have been told before)
[03:38] <rezan> okie...thanks
[03:38] <rezan> but google wont work
[03:38] <ldcicconi> google won't work huh?
[03:38] <ldcicconi> is google down or something? must be the first time ever
[03:39] <somsip> rezan: not our issue.
[03:39] <rezan> i didn't see anything for huawei phone on google
[03:39] <somsip> rezan: not here. You've been given the correct link twice. Please follow it
[03:41] <marz> Can someone please explain to me what this comman does. "$ chown -R `id -u`:`id -g` dwm-6.0"    . . .  I know it changes the ownership of the file but the `id -u`:`id -g` part confuses me.
[03:41] <genii> rezan: If you don't see your handset listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices then it means no one is currently working on porting it. Also, questions regarding Ubuntu touch are best asked in the #ubuntu-touch channel
[03:42] <somsip> marz: id -u will output the current user's ID. So this effective does chown -R 1000:1000 on a sole-user system
[03:42] <marz> somsip: I understood the first sentece. The second one got me more confused.
[03:43] <somsip> marz: a bit wrong, as id -g will output the current user's group.
[03:43] <somsip> !permissions | marz (will explain more)
[03:43] <ldcicconi> !mac
[03:43] <ldcicconi> !macbook
[03:43] <ldcicconi> hmmm
[03:44] <marz> somsip: big thanks! :D
[03:44] <somsip> marz: np
[03:45] <ytw> I have macbook pro retina running ubuntu kernael also, let me know if you need help. ldcicconi
[03:46] <ldcicconi> ytw, all of my audio buttons completely stopped working. Also, volume toggle in top bar is gone.
[03:46] <ytw> what wm are you running? unity?
[03:46] <ytw> what wm are you running? unity? ldcicconi
[03:47] <ldcicconi> yes unity. not sure what a wm is.
[03:47] <ebrunope> opa
[03:48] <ytw> ldcicconi, windows manager.. Will you be online for later tonight? I'm working on few other stuff and I can help you later
[03:48] <ytw> ldcicconi, look up using alsamixer for now
[03:48] <ldcicconi> I may be. I might be on the right track. thanks ytw. will report back.
[03:56] <dragonslay> guys, i am having a font which is not properly shown in font viewer. how can i share the ttf file with you ?
[04:01] <marz> is anyone here using dwm?
[04:02] <somsip> marz: I think #suckless have their own channel
[04:02] <somsip> marz: http://suckless.org/community
[04:02] <z1haze1> Could anyone recommend the best alternative for using itunes on linux, how can i sync my phone and music on ubuntu?
[04:02] <genii> Oh, "suck less" not "suckles"
[04:03]  * genii makes more coffee
[04:03] <somsip> !itunes | z1haze1
[04:04] <z1haze1> banshee?
[04:04] <somsip> !info banshee | z1haze1
[04:04] <z1haze1> all i need to do is be able to sync music to my iphone
[04:04] <marz> somsip: Oh, I didn't know that. Hehe
[04:05] <somsip> !iphone | z1haze1
[04:06] <WadeCounty> quit
[04:09] <jerivas1988> buenas noches
[04:09] <marz> somsip: There are only 9 people there. They're not responding. Hehe
[04:10] <somsip> marz: you can ask here of course. ISTR a regular who does use DWM. But #suckless will be the experts, when they respond
[04:12] <marz> I'm following this HOWTO website: http://cannibalcandy.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/installing-and-configuring-dwm-under-ubuntu/     I got to the part where I would log out and log back in, it's supposed to start dwm but it doesn't
[04:13] <somsip> marz: you installed from source?
[04:13] <somsip> !info dwm
[04:13] <somsip> marz: easier to use the official package maybe?
[04:14] <marz> somsip:  The website gets the package from the suckless which is the official reoi
[04:14] <marz> repo*
[04:15] <somsip> marz: for reasons of wanting to change the config of DWM because all config is in the source, from what I read. If you want a default install, you can use the package
[04:15] <marz> somsip: I'm confused, how do I do that?
[04:15] <somsip> marz: sudo apt-get install dwm
[04:16] <somsip> marz: but you may have left files here and there from installing from source
[04:16] <marz> somsip: How do I take care of that?
[04:16] <combe> hello world.
[04:16] <combe> hi
[04:17] <combe> how are yous?
[04:17] <sudormrf_> hey guys, I am looking for some help with fail2ban.  I am reading this link https://darrynvt.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/fail2ban-how-to-ubuntu/ and it looks like I can probably create the filter I want for the most part with the info there, but I have questions.  Can anyone help?
[04:17] <combe> ~~
[04:17] <somsip> marz: if there is a 'make install' command, there should be a 'make uninstall' but no guarantees
[04:17] <somsip> combe: Hi there. Do you have a support question?
[04:18] <genii> If there's no "make uninstall" try instead "make dist-clean" or "make dist"
[04:18] <combe> I was a rookie
[04:18] <somsip> sudormrf_: give some details then
[04:19] <genii> "make clean", rather ( caffeine shortage)
[04:19] <dragonslay> can somebody tell me why dropbox.com/s/gvly4mlv1k1ujlr/MVF  is not showing properly in font viewer. It seems to work in phone though(only in older versions)
[04:19] <combe> I am using debian Operation StarCraft
[04:19] <somsip> combe: you are using debian?
[04:20] <combe> Yes
[04:20] <somsip> combe: this is for ubuntu support. You need #debian. type '/join #debian'
[04:20] <sudormrf_> somsip: well, here is the message in the syslog that I am getting "racoon: ERROR: Invalid exchange type 243 from 189.105.211.94[55006]" and I want any IPs that show up in these error messages to get blocked automatically.  The IP addresses are different each time and the number in the brackets is frequently different as well.  It looks like I can use the <HOST> tag for the IP, but I don't know what to do about the number in the brackets
[04:20] <sudormrf_> would like to know how I can address the issue.
[04:21] <combe> There is no difference between Debian and Ubuntu
[04:21] <combe> i like gnu
[04:21] <somsip> sudormrf_: match it with a regex. The fail2ban website has lots of examples for this
[04:21] <somsip> combe: we cannot help you. You need to go to #debian
[04:21] <snufft> sorry guys, stupid noob question. i've just plugged in a drive which has mounted itself, but how to i switch to that drive from terminal? sudo fdisk -l tells me that the drive i'm after is at /dev/sde2 but i can't cd to it and i can't find it listed in /media
[04:22] <Nullifi3d> try /mnt
[04:22] <Nullifi3d> sd* is an assigned name to the device
[04:22] <Nullifi3d> under /mnt it'll prob show up as the primary partition's label
[04:25] <snufft> Nullifi3d, /mnt is empty :S is that normal? lol
[04:26] <Nullifi3d> are you sure its mounted?
[04:26] <snufft> yeah, i'm browsing it through the gui no worries
[04:26] <Nullifi3d> try just typing 'mount'
[04:27] <snufft> aha! /media/OS :D
[04:27] <DefunctProcess> Hello
[04:27] <snufft> Nullifi3d++
[04:27] <snufft> (does that work here?)
[04:27] <Nullifi3d> no idea :P
[04:27] <Nullifi3d> prob not
[04:27] <snufft> oh well, thank you anyway :)
[04:28] <Nullifi3d> np
[04:31] <DefunctProcess> very noob question maybe someone can help, i formatted my usb stick and used unetbootin to put ubuntu-server on it, I set my bios to boot from usb and it just boots windows.... any ideas?
[04:32] <DefunctProcess> ^fat format using windows diskmanager
[04:33] <DefunctProcess> exFat actually
[04:33] <suhaib> DefunctProcess: For me, I press F9 key to show the boot menu then select the usb to boot from
[04:33] <DefunctProcess> suhaib, yea I tried it both ways setting in bios and f9
[04:34] <sudormrf_> somsip: sorry, the page doesn't answer the question.
[04:34] <DefunctProcess> it seems like it is attempting to boot, screen goes black for a second after bootsplash but then it just boots windows
[04:35] <somsip> sudormrf_: do you have any experience with regexes?
[04:35] <sudormrf_> somsip: I don't.
[04:36] <suhaib> DefunctProcess: I had the same problem before. I tried a different USB. The 1st usb wasn't working properly. anyway, leave my suggestion till the end if you want
[04:36] <somsip> sudormrf_: then it might be difficult. When I first started using them, I found them hideous. But the idea is that you take a copy of the log extract that you want to identify with the filter, and use the 'fail2ban-regex' command to test your regex to make sure it identifies the line
[04:37] <Beldar> DefunctProcess, Do it again with a fat32, checking the md5sum would not hurt.
[04:37] <suhaib> DefunctProcess: another question, Did you download the iso file from Ubuntu website ?
[04:37] <ljsoftnet>  can i hide the pop up message of gnomeradio "could not open /dev/mixer" i have sound though or maybe a fix for this
[04:37] <DefunctProcess> suhaibyes i did
[04:37] <sudormrf_> somsip: wait, so I can do something like "fail2ban-regex PASTED LINE" and see what happens?
[04:37] <DefunctProcess> suhaib
[04:38] <somsip> sudormrf_: yes, just so it doesn
[04:38] <somsip> sudormrf_: 't have to parse the whole log file
[04:38] <sudormrf_> somsip: hmm.  let me try it
[04:39] <somsip> sudormrf_: if you can't get help here, StackOverflow seems full of people who will give quick, accurate responses to requests for regex help. I'd suggest there
[04:39] <suhaib> DefunctProcess: Did you check the md5sum ?
[04:39] <sudormrf_> thanks
[04:39] <DefunctProcess> no i should have
[04:40] <somsip> sudormrf_: an example is here, but this is just how to set up a new filter, not how to get th regex to match. That's the tricky bit http://blog.somsip.com/2011/12/protecting-apache-webservers-from-wordpress-admin-login-dictionary-attacks/
[04:40]  * l33txp needs some help... Google isn't helping much..
[04:40] <suhaib> !md5sum
[04:40] <somsip> !details | l33txp
[04:41] <l33txp> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto my new desktop. I have an AMD system, UEFI Asus Mobo.. When I run the DVD, it says there are no detected OSs.. I'm running Windows 7 and want to dual boot...
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !uefi|l33txp,
[04:42] <sudormrf_> somsip: checking it
[04:42] <cfhowlett> l33txp, dvd?  USB!
[04:42] <l33txp> Yeah DVD.. I've never had luck with USB.. lol
[04:42] <l33txp> I had this DVD here already ..
[04:45] <combe>  call the doctor, who advises us to allow the new formula a few more hours to work through his system.
[04:46] <sudormrf_> somsip: looks like stack overflow isn't going to be of much help.  not at the moment anyhow
[04:50] <ljsoftnet>  can i hide the pop up message of gnomeradio "could not open /dev/mixer" i have sound though or maybe a fix for this
[04:52] <reaga> this might be a stupid question, but is there a way to install ubuntu onto an empty drive from windows?
[04:52] <cfhowlett> reaga, not clear what you're asking ..
[04:52] <reaga> well, you know ubuntu?
[04:53] <reaga> can it be put onto a drive
[04:53] <cfhowlett> reaga, yes.  it has it's own installer
[04:53] <reaga> but i want to do it from windows, because im crazy
[04:53] <reaga> i dont have any optical drive
[04:53] <cfhowlett> reaga, usb
[04:53] <reaga> what if i had no usb
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !install|reaga,
[04:53] <reaga> there has to be a way
[04:53] <reaga> to write to the drive directly
[04:54] <reaga> ubuntu is simply a sequence of 0s and 1s
[04:54] <cfhowlett> reaga, netboot
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !netboot
[04:55] <sudormrf_> if anyone else is around that may be able to help me out with fail2ban, please let me know.
[04:57] <somsip> sudormrf_: IRC: #fail2ban channel on Freenode network (from http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Seek_Help)
[04:57] <sudormrf_> somsip: i'm in there and it is incredibly dead.  I have asked the question in there as well.
[04:57] <sudormrf_> somsip: still waiting for a response, but I can't stay connected all night
[04:58] <sudormrf_> somsip: I think I have most of what I need to do figured out, I just need to understand the type of wildcards it would use
[05:00] <TechGuru9> Is anybody having problems installing ubuntu 13.10?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[05:01] <JordanJ3> !gq
[05:01] <TechGuru9> I'm getting an error. Can you please help :(
[05:02] <taufiq0177> need some help on my asus eeepc 701. when i boot up, i get an error saying "no init found. Try passing int= bootarg". does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> !details|TechGuru9,
[05:03] <TechGuru9> When I click on reboot I see the gnome symbol. Then my computer does nothing :(
[05:03] <taufiq0177> "BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash)" is the next line. I am an absolute noob at ubuntu.
[05:04] <TechGuru9> I just finished the installation
[05:04] <puff> I'm trying to run Software Updater but NetworkManager keeps disconnecting from my AP.
[05:05] <luminosity> Good afternoon,everyone.
[05:05] <taufiq0177> is this really a support channel?
[05:05] <TechGuru9> Should I try the beta version?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !patience|taufiq0177, yes.
[05:05] <puff> I'm trying to buld an ubuntu package from source... the tutorials I've found seem to be assuming I'm building a source packaged  I doenloaded elsewehre (e.g. use checkinstall, etc) but I want to check out the source for an ubuntu package, patch it, build it and install it.
[05:06] <cfhowlett> TechGuru9, no
[05:06] <puff> What's the right keyword to google on for this?
[05:06] <TechGuru9> Why
[05:06] <TechGuru9> The alpha version won't work
[05:06] <cfhowlett> !trusty|TechGuru9,
[05:11] <puff> Hm, does this look sane: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get
[05:13] <geirha> puff: mostly
[05:14] <geirha> puff: Typically when you grab the sources with apt-get source, you want to patch it somehow and build a new package, which means you should bump the changelog with a new version number. You do that with the dch command.
[05:15] <CarlFK> puff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/hellanzb  which says Homepage www.hellanzb.com
[05:20] <hipitihop> is there an easy way to list what updates I installed by day. Something came through this morning which seems to have broken native file dialogs in wine, well at least flash app in the firefox pipelight plugin and I need to see what has changed and posisbly roll back
[05:21] <CarlFK> hipitihop: not really, and there really isn't a roll back
[05:22] <CarlFK> flash app in the firefox pipelight - is that the netflix viewer?
[05:25] <hipitihop> CarlFK, yes netflix silverlight based viewer is one of its uses but in my cas eI use the flash player plugin so that I can run latest debug player on linux otherwise you are stuck on 11.2
[05:26] <hipitihop> CarlFK, as for rollback, maybe wrong term. If I can see which updates occured, should it not be possible to manually go back versions of packages ?
[05:26] <att032> weechat --version
[05:29] <enbergj> I have a windows laptop, with an ubuntu desktop in a virtualbox VM .. when I put the computer to sleep, and turn it back on, the network connection for the VM gets disconnected, I can't connect to the internet at all, and it does not automatically recover even if I wait hours, I have to go to the network menu in my gnome and disconnect + reconnect the network manually .. any ideas how to get that thing to reconnect ...
[05:29] <enbergj> ... automatically? it's configured in NAT mode
[05:29] <hipitihop> CarlFK, hmm, issue sorted, killall winserver and all working again
[05:30] <CarlFK> hipitihop: good, cuz I dont think previous versions of pacakages are saved anywhere
[05:32] <hipitihop> CarlFK, interesting concept for a package manager to be able to snapshot known config of package versions and optionaly re-instate
[05:55] <puff> CarlFK: I do not understand your comment.
[05:55] <CarlFK> puff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/hellanzb  which says Homepage www.hellanzb.com    are links to places you can find source code
[05:56] <CarlFK> puff: did you care about that package, or just in general ?
[05:56] <puff> CarlFK: No, actually I'm looking for NetworkManager.
[06:01] <puff> Is anybody else massively frustrated with NetworkManager, by the by?
[06:02] <marz> Ubuntu no longer boots up to GUI after I run the command "sudo apt-get install dwm" . . . I already uninstalled it
[06:03] <chillibite> i need to open and view a .dwg file
[06:03] <chillibite> it's a house plan
[06:03] <genii> marz: What says the result of: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <chillibite> is there a free program on ubuntu gnu/linux for viewing and editing .dwg files
[06:04] <chillibite> the file was made using autocad 2010
[06:04] <puff> chillibite: Maybe QCad?
[06:04] <chillibite> puff: is qcad free software?
[06:04] <puff> Yes.
[06:05] <puff> chillibite: Yes. Also, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/48700/is-there-software-that-can-view-dwg-files
[06:05] <puff> chillibite: And see http://www.tech-edv.co.at/05_LUnIx/80_CAD~2f3d/30_Utilities/
[06:06] <chillibite> puff: thanks - though it looks like qcad has been replaced by librecad in the newest version of ubuntu
[06:07] <chillibite> i guess librecad is pretty much the same or it's a fork, i'm going to give it a go anyway.... thanks
[06:07] <puff> chillibite: Cool. I haven't looked at qcad in a year or tow.
[06:08] <pranav> .join #linux
[06:08] <pranav> *sry
[06:09] <marz> genii: Installed: (none) Candiddate: 1.267.1 Version table: 1.267.1 0 500 http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages 1.267 0 500 http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[06:10] <pranav> how to list the devices that are connected using terminal. I want to change my stdout to LCD instead of serial console ?
[06:11]  * puff watches dpkg-buildpackage chug.
[06:11] <genii> marz: I might try: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <puff> genii: Think sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu-desktop would be a good idea?
[06:12] <genii> puff: Since it says "Installed:(none)" it probably would complain it's not already installed.
[06:13] <marz> genii: installing . . .
[06:14] <Akayllin> Hi all. I just put ubuntu 13.10 on a computer and ran the software updater. Is the "configuring procps" step supposed to take an obscene amount of time?
[06:15] <Akayllin> It isn't progressing at all. Nothign is frozen though, I can use the computer still
[06:20] <dj> Hie Everyone
[06:21] <puff> dj: Hi.
[06:21] <dj> puff Whats up
[06:22] <puff> geirha: I followed the instructions on that page to buld network-manager from source and it produced three different files, one with a "dbg" in the name, obviously with symbol table & etc for debugging, but what's the difference between the one with "dev" in the name and the one that looks like the normal package name?
[06:22] <puff> dj: Building network-manager from source, mainly because I'm going to try patching it to fix an annoying behavior.
[06:22] <pranav> i am running kubuntu 12.04 kernel in arm embedded device using serial console, I want to access LCD. how to approach this ?
[06:23] <dj> puff :ohhh but whats the big deal
[06:23] <dj> I am using Peppermint OS
[06:23] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7031574/
[06:23] <somsip> dj: that's not supprted here
[06:23] <puff> dj: This is #ubuntu...
[06:24] <puff> dj: You're welcome to stay and hear us extoll the wonders of ubuntu, however :-).
[06:24] <somsip> dj: particular #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[06:24] <dj> doesn't matters...but alwyz ubuntu is best
[06:25] <puff> dj: We're pretty fond of it.
[06:25] <Seveas> puff: the -dev package has file you need only for developing things with libnm, like header files, .so symlinks and pkg-config files
[06:25] <geirha> puff: the dev package contains header files and such; files not needed to actually run the program, but needed when you want to compile something against it
[06:27] <puff> Seveas: Ah, thanks.
[06:27] <puff> geirha: Thanks.
[06:36] <jozefk> I like aptitude better than apt-get and apt-cache
[06:37] <Guest95787> hi
[06:43] <puff> jozefk: Me too.
[06:43] <Guest95787> Hi is there automatically repair a bridged network on ubuntu server 12.04 running on virtualbox by restarting the network
[06:45] <Guest95787> I tried running service networking restart but I get this error:    stop: unknown instance
[06:47] <Guest95787> hi
[06:49] <fletom> Hello. I'm trying to singleboot install Ubuntu 13.10 on my MacBook (core 2 duo). I follow all the instructions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation) but then it gives me an error "The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. This partition should be marked for use as an "EFI boot partition" and should be at least 35 MB in size. Note that th
[06:50] <Guest95787> Hi is there automatically repair a bridged network on ubuntu server 12.04 running on virtualbox by restarting the network
[06:50] <fletom> I tried creating a ~200MB partition with the EFI boot partition template. But it still tells me at the end of the installation that the bootloader couldn't be installed. Any help?
[06:52] <asahi> hello, I have a folder with permissions 770, and I added my username to the same group as the folder, but i cannot cd into it. any ideas why?
[06:53] <Guest9862> I am a newbie to Ubuntu with no cash available for a new printer. I have a Dell aio 922, and am wondering why I can not find a CUPS setting ?
[06:55] <somsip> asahi: log out and log back in after changing a user's groups otherwise it wont take effect
[06:57] <asahi> somsip: ahh thanks
[06:57] <jnhghy> Hi, I have some trouble printing (ubuntu 12.04 cups 1.5.2) when on localhost:631/printers I get this error msg: /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb failed any ideea?
[07:06] <Rizal> hello guys .., anybody in here know about thread ?
[07:06] <jennie>  I am trying to do exact same thing and I am facing exact same problem. any solution for this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998543
[07:08] <shogo2043> is there an ubuntu distro without gpu acceleration? my nvidia gpu on my laptop blew up but only seems to work with OS that does not have GPU acceleration.
[07:09] <Rizal> hmm maybe everyone don't about thread :(
[07:11] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, can someone help me repartition my drive with gparted?
[07:16] <jozefk> Wiz_KeeD, is that so difficult ?
[07:17] <Stanley00> Wiz_KeeD: what's your problems?
[07:17] <Wiz_KeeD> jozefk, I have to shrink a ext4 partition and enlarge the other, I'm not sure I will do it right and afraid I will break my installation
[07:18] <jozefk> I am afraid also :)
[07:18] <Wiz_KeeD> basically remove 7gb from one and add to the others
[07:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok let's see what happens
[07:19] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[07:19] <Stanley00> Wiz_KeeD: good luck :3
[07:20] <vadimkolchev> suddenly found out that my dropbox daemon does not start automatically after boot. Where should I add dropbox daemon to start?
[07:20] <q0> is debugging with control graph possible ?
[07:22] <q0> i knew ubuntu was full of noobs
[07:24] <q0> is debugging with control graph possible ?
[07:24] <RainMan28> q0: game recognize game
[07:24] <q0> that's not the answer RainMan28 . I'm afraid I'm gonna start spamming the channel
[07:24] <somsip> q0: what is it you're actually trying to do?
[07:24] <q0> is debugging with control graph possible ?
[07:25] <somsip> q0: debugging what?
[07:25] <q0> that's a redundant and irrelevant question
[07:25] <q0> is debugging with control graph possible ?
[07:25] <RainMan28> q0: you will comply
[07:25] <somsip> q0: if you give details, I'll try to help.
[07:25] <q0> well eventually, but where's my answer
[07:25] <q0> specifically, kernel
[07:26] <somsip> q0: if you don't get a helpful response here, it sound slike you're doing something more suited to asking the kernel-dev people
[07:27] <somsip> q0: or if it's a general C question, ##c may be the place to ask
[07:27] <flos> Hi, may i know what's the differece between hostname and 'numeric form of the host name' ?
[07:27] <genii> dns
[07:27] <q0> there must be some tool like doxygen with graphical extension or something ???
[07:27] <pseudo_opcode> hi everyone, i am unable to reload configuration for initctl, i use "reload-configuration" still my service wont start using "start"
[07:28] <somsip> q0: AFAIK doxygen generates documentation: it's nothing to do with debugging
[07:28] <flos> genii, dns?
[07:36] <GiantZombies> Can someone here answer a few questions for me? I'm interested in switching to Ubuntu and I've found some pretty good tutorials online to guide me through the process of setting my computer up to dual-boot. But I still have a few things that I want to figure out before I do it.
[07:37] <Pessimist> !ask | GiantZombies
[07:39] <Wiz_KeeD> told you it wasn't easy
[07:39] <Wiz_KeeD> that's messed up
[07:40] <genii> flos: Sorry, at first I assumed you meant the relationship between the IP number of a machine and it's assigned name. But on re-reading I believe you want to know more specifically about the numbers which IRC returns in regards to a users hostmask.
[07:41] <genii> flos: 396 is the number which is returned if your cloak was successfully applied
[07:44] <flos> genii, ah... thanks for your kindness. when i read the manual of getnameinfo(), http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/getnameinfo.3.html, there is a sentense: "the numeric form of the hostname is returned", this confuse me..
[07:48] <genii> flos: You may find this explanation more understandable: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/getnameinfo.html
[07:48] <llutz> flos: the "numeric hostname" is the IP-address
[07:51] <flos> genii, llutz, got you! thank you very much! :)
[07:54] <Caelum> my dbus is completely screwed up, I don't have permissions to do anything
[07:55] <Caelum> how do I check if the AtConsole rule matches for me
[07:58] <neil02> for testing can I get mdadm to fail both of the drives from a raid1 set?
[08:01] <elementary-site2> I need major help.
[08:02] <vadimkolchev> is it safe to install backports updates??
[08:22] <wizard_A> pinhg
[08:23] <penny_> hi
[08:23] <jamesliu> Hi ~
[08:23] <jamesliu> Somebody there?
[08:24] <jamesliu> I'd like to ask a simple question
[08:24] <jamesliu> Could someone let me know how to know other people 's host name by ip
[08:25] <jamesliu> which command should be used
[08:25] <llutz> jamesliu: dig -x hostname
[08:26] <llutz> ip, not hostname*
[08:28] <jamesliu> ; <<>> DiG 9.8.1-P1 <<>> -x 10.66.50.83
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; global options: +cmd
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; Got answer:
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 3423
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;83.50.66.10.in-addr.arpa.	IN	PTR
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
[08:28] <jamesliu> 10.in-addr.arpa.	10800	IN	SOA	localhost. nobody.invalid. 1 3600 1200 604800 10800
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; Query time: 240 msec
[08:28] <llutz> !paste | jamesliu
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; WHEN: Tue Mar  4 16:27:15 2014
[08:28] <jamesliu> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 101
[08:28] <jamesliu> attached info but seems not found host name
[08:29] <llutz> jamesliu: fails if no rDNS entry was set.
[08:32] <jamesliu> does it mean i can't get hostname through ip if rdns not set?
[08:32] <llutz> jamesliu: correct
[08:33] <genii> jamesliu: The range starting with 10 is reserved
[08:33] <jamesliu> okay,thanks ~
[08:34] <hyde> Does anybody here have an idea when Qt5 of 14.04 is going to get upgraded?
[08:34] <llutz> !14.04 | hyde
[08:36] <hyde> llutz: thanks!
[08:37] <wybe> wvbe
[08:37] <wybe> Shite, sorry
[08:41] <wizard_A> i tried installing ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-server but the gui does not show up??
[08:44] <Jordan_U> wizard_A: sudo service lightdm start
[08:46] <genii> wizard_A: Is this a machine you are at the keyboard of or a remote machine?
[08:46] <wizard_A> at keyboard. i have ubuntu-server as dual-boot.
[08:48] <genii> wizard_A: Then starting up the login as Jordan_U indicated should work ( if your graphics driver is not problemmatic)
[08:49] <onlty> sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start
[08:49] <wizard_A> i'm not able to get you. what do you mean.
[08:49] <genii> onlty: It's an upstart job
[08:49] <onlty> Okay :(
[08:50] <wizard_A> i tried what onlty says and also startx but both do not work
[08:51] <omghelp> hello
[08:51] <onlty> Show me the /var/log/Xorg.0.log :P
[08:51] <omghelp> anyone here can help me a little?
[08:51] <onlty> Uhh...wrong path??
[08:51] <genii> wizard_A: What I mean is: If the command: sudo service lightdm start    does not work, then the likely issue is that X is prevented from starting. Which is usually due to graphics card or driver
[08:52] <wizard_A> so what should i do..
[08:52] <genii> wizard_A: Pastebin the file which onlty requested for examination :)
[08:53] <Beldar> omghelp, It is okay to tell the channel the problem to get help.
[08:53] <omghelp> i am connected with user pass on my internet directly no router. installed in virtualbox 13.10 ubuntu.. all running good the setup and everything.. but when i try to run an command i get errors.. like i do not have internet
[08:53] <omghelp> i have tryed NAT and Bridge .. and stil error
[08:53] <genii> wizard_A: Also the output from the command:  lspci -nn    ..should also be put into a pastebin for examination. Additionally: lsmod
[08:54] <onlty> lspci -nn | egrep Display\|VGA
[08:54] <omghelp> and at ifconfig.. i do not have an ip .. just an ipv6 with some random stuff.. guess it`s an ipv6 address..
[08:54] <wizard_A> any irc client that runs on command line, because i do not have gui working
[08:54] <omghelp> how can i test if i have internet
[08:54] <onlty> In my case I have one VGA controller and one Display controller
[08:54] <onlty> omghelp, ping 8.8.8.8
[08:55] <snyp> wizard_A, irssi and weechat and bitchX
[08:55] <omghelp> network is unreachable
[08:56] <genii> !pastebinit| wizard_A ..Also you will need pastebinit ...
[08:56] <omghelp> even when ubuntu starts at the network automatic config.. stays to long and i guess it`s starting without the internet configuration
[08:56] <onlty> wizard_A, telnet can be used but it is strobgly NOT recommended
[08:56] <onlty> *strongly
[08:56] <omghelp> onlty: network unreachable
[08:59] <omghelp> my pc has internet .. doh i am here but in virtual i got nothing.. at the setup part.. he connected to everything and updated stuff.. but here.. no internet ..
[08:59] <ghost_> hiii.,
[08:59] <omghelp> hear i mean in the virualbox
[09:00] <ghost_> BackTrack Linux is no longer being maintained.
[09:01] <omghelp> anyone an ideea
[09:01] <omghelp> ? what to do ?
[09:01] <somsip> !kali | ghost_
[09:02] <DJones> ghost_: Probably best asking in #backtrack-linux The people there should be able to help you
[09:03] <jozefk> ghost_, backtrack is now kali. it's interesting you know how to come to #ubuntu but you don't know about kali :)
[09:04] <michagogo|cloud> Also, backtrack was Ubuntu-based
[09:04] <michagogo|cloud> Kali is Debian-based
[09:04] <jozefk> seems like people open xchat and automatically log in to #ubuntu and start asking questions without even opening their browser and google :))
[09:05] <omghelp> my 13.10 ubuntu does not want to get internet in any way in virualbox
[09:07] <jozefk> omghelp, try also on #vbox
[09:08] <jozefk> I use VMWare
[09:08] <omghelp> waiting for network configuration... a long time.. waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration .. booting without full network configuration..
[09:08] <jack> yeah, probably not an ubuntu problem
[09:08] <omghelp> thanks jozefk but it`s an ubuntu problem
[09:08] <jpds> omghelp: It's a network configuration problem.
[09:09] <jozefk> omghelp, why do you think so? I have Ubuntu in VMWare and everything works fine
[09:09] <omghelp> my internet works.. user pass type network .. but in virtual ..no internet for ubuntu
[09:10] <omghelp> i did not setup anything.. should i ? never done that before and worked
[09:11] <jozefk> omghelp, what if you boot ubuntu live?
[09:11] <jozefk> does it work?
[09:18] <marz> Anybody using dwm here?
[09:19] <llutz> pretty sure one of the 1500 users here do. but what does that info help? ask your real question please marz
[09:22] <seksifemale> hi
[09:23] <marz__> Anyone using dwm here?
[09:26] <reserved> hi all
[09:27] <reserved> is anyone able to assist me with applying nomodeset on my xubuntu 13.10?
[09:29] <reserved> anyone?
[09:29] <llutz> reserved: you want to add nomodeset to the default grub boot-options?
[09:30] <llutz> reserved: sudo nano /etc/default/grub,   change the line ending in "splash quiet" into "splash quiet nomodeset", press ctrl-x to save/exit, run "sudo update-grub"
[09:31] <reserved> LLutz: thanks, will attempt it now and give feedback.
[09:34] <reserved> LLutz: I performed a software update and thereafter was required to reboot. now when I reboot, I receive a black screen. Is your above advice to apply nomodeset permanently?
[09:34] <llutz> reserved: yes
[09:36] <setra> hipitihop, I try to connect to a ubuntu server with ssh -X srv-name, but it always shows timeout in locking .Xauthority file. Where can I change the default location of the file
[09:36] <setra> hello, I try to connect to a ubuntu server with ssh -X srv-name, but it always shows timeout in locking .Xauthority file. Where can I change the default location of the file
[09:36] <llutz> reserved: i cannot tell you if that fixes your issues, above is just the way to add boot-options permanently.
[09:38] <reserved> LLutz: I am running an Nvidia card, and now since the software update, I am unable to boot. Several forums have told me to perform similair options to yours in the GRUB menu before booting, but I still just get a black screen.
[09:38] <hipitihop> setra, did you mean to aim that at me :-)
[09:40] <tum> hi, I was wondering if anyone knew the repository for the "Sharing Options" gui in the file manager for 13.10?
[09:40] <setra> hipitihop, sorry but i just typed hi,.... it came up with you sorry...
[09:41] <hipitihop> setra, np, hope you solve you issue, sorry I don't know an answer to that one.
[09:42] <llutz> reserved: i can't help you with that, i'd wait a while and ask here aain for help. there usually are some guys arround much more versed with this nvidia/ati stuff. i could only tell you to use intel-graphics to avoid such issues :)
[09:45] <effedetto> Hello
[09:46] <marz__> I'm having problems with dwm, can anyone help me.
[09:46] <hateball> !anyone
[09:46] <gordonjcp> !help | marz__
[09:47] <serkamil> anybody find solution for udev to add eth/mac to 70-persistent-net.rules at ubuntu ?
[09:47] <marz__> I installed dwm by following this website: http://rhunter.org/blog/2012/04/17/dwm-a-tutorial-for-beginners/, however it doesn't seem to work when logging out and logging back in
[09:48] <ikonia> serkamil: it adds devices automatically
[09:48] <ikonia> serkamil: what solution do you need, as it already does that
[09:48] <cfhowlett> marz, better to use the one in the repo than the external sourced versions
[09:48] <marz__> cfhowlett: Doesn't work either. After executing the command "sudo apt-get install dwm", nothing happens
[09:49] <ikonia> "nothing happens" - something will happen, note it down
[09:49] <marz__> ikonia: It should automatically apply after logging out and logging back in. But it doesn't
[09:50] <ikonia> marz__: no, it shouldn't, you need to confirure your X session to use it
[09:50] <ikonia> marz__: and that's not "nothing happened"
[09:50] <marz__> ikonia: ~/.Xsession file?
[09:50] <ikonia> marz__: depends on your setup
[09:50] <marz__> ikonia: I followed this website http://rhunter.org/blog/2012/04/17/dwm-a-tutorial-for-beginners/
[09:51] <serkamil> sorry, I forget to add about xenserver
[09:51] <serkamil> this host is virtual
[09:51] <ikonia> marz__: yeah, you'v posted that, however that doesn't change what cfhowlett suggested and what I said
[09:51] <serkamil> but comment line like "SUBSYSTEMS=="xen", GOTO="globally_administered_whitelist"" don't help me
[09:51] <marz__> ikonia: What exactly do I have to do after executing "sudo apt-get install dwm"?
[09:52] <ikonia> marz__: it depends on your config/setup
[09:52] <ikonia> serkamil: not, not following
[09:53] <marz__> ikonia: I'm kinda new so I really don't know where to start
[09:53] <serkamil> ikonia: I try make some changes to /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules but it dosen't help me
[09:53] <serkamil> ikonia: (it is in ubuntu 12.04)
[09:54] <ikonia> serkamil: what's the actual problem,
[09:54] <jargon> how do i solve this problem without network access? i tried downloading the .deb suggested in the Solution, copy to thumb drive then copy to the networkless laptop with no wifi drivers. now Package Installer is whining about Unsatisfied dependencies. meanwhile,the download site mentioned no dependencies. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/198758#comment-6 ...
[09:54] <jargon> ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/i386/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-quantal-generic/download
[09:56] <serkamil> ikonia: at ubuntu 12.04 quest system (virtual) after I attached in XenServer network interface udev don't add eth/mac to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:57] <ikonia> serkamil: it shouldn't, as it's a virtual device acting as a pass through to the host
[09:57] <ikonia> serkamil: as I recall if you do an ifconfig the interfaces should be named difference
[09:57] <serkamil> i thing the problem is at /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules
[09:57] <ikonia> why is there a "problem" ?
[09:58] <marz__> ikonia: What do i need to do after executing sudo apt-ge tinstall dwm?
[09:58] <ikonia> marz__: no idea,
[09:59] <serkamil> becouse I want to get the same ifname when I connect specific macaddress
[09:59] <cfhowlett> marz__, doesn't your tutorial specify exactly what to do next to configure?
[09:59] <ikonia> the interfaces are past through from xen so they won't change as they are managed at the host (as I recall)
[09:59] <serkamil> how it is at normal host (not virtual)
[10:00] <marz__> cfhowlett: I finished it but it doesn't work. Now I'm trying to do it via the sudo apt-get install dwm command that you suggested
[10:00] <IsNotMyIP> Hi guys! Im trying to connect my web application with mysql db both of them reside on the same server and im using node.js, so for connect them i use node-mysql
[10:00] <IsNotMyIP> It returns this error
[10:00] <IsNotMyIP> http://pastebin.com/1sxwS9Uv  But i can connect from console, using netcat and all that stuff
[10:00] <IsNotMyIP> Something is blocking connection between them
[10:01] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: looks like a basic connection refused error
[10:01] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: Yep, but i dont know where is the problem, im trying to log as root, could be it the problem?
[10:02] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: depends on how you've set the database users up
[10:02] <IsNotMyIP> How can i check how the database is setted?
[10:02] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: you set it up
[10:03] <IsNotMyIP> Not at all, i limited to install it and config the less parameters
[10:03] <IsNotMyIP> I m newbie on mysql
[10:03] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: right, so you setup the users/authentication
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !mysql
[10:03] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: what is the command you are using "exactly" to connect to the database on the command line
[10:04] <IsNotMyIP> on terminal?
[10:04] <IsNotMyIP> mysl -u root -p
[10:04] <IsNotMyIP> mysql*
[10:04] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: ok, and what is the connection string you have setup in node.js
[10:04] <serkamil> ikonia: some interface I deactivete and after when I activate this interface this get differnet ifname (eth*)
[10:05] <ikonia> serkamil: isn't that controlled from the xen host though, not the guest
[10:05] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/JFGZKqsn here is the script im using
[10:05] <ikonia> serkamil: I'm a bit rusty with xen but I always thought that was host controlled
[10:05] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: the username is xxxxxxxxxxxx in that file
[10:08] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: ??
[10:08] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: what is not clear about what I said ?
[10:08] <serkamil> ikonia: for example when I cativate at Xen second network device (interface) at quest it could be first network interface
[10:08] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: Yep user is xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: On the real script is not xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[10:09]  * mr_g4bri3l says hi to everyone.
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: and password is not sudo
[10:09] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: what is the real username
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> root is which im using
[10:09] <serkamil> ikonia: for me better is when I activate at xen interface with mac (for example) 6a:83:79:15:0d:5e I always get eth2
[10:09] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: please run "mysql -u root -h localhost -D PRUEBA -p"
[10:09] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: see if that connects
[10:10] <serkamil> ikonia: at ubuntu, when udev see that subsystem is xen then dont add it to 70-persistent-net.rules
[10:10] <ikonia> serkamil: ok, I think I see what you mean, as I understood it that was set from the host, not the guest
[10:10] <IsNotMyIP> Connected
[10:10] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: ok, so you know the conection is fine, so it's got to be a node.js problem
[10:11] <serkamil> ikonia: sorry for my english and explaining ...
[10:11] <ikonia> serkamil: not at all, your english is fine,
[10:12] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: Yep, i was trying to fix it in other ircs before, and we think that the problem is after it connects
[10:12] <mr_g4bri3l> Is this a help channel or general chat channel?
[10:12] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: doesn't look like it, as it looks like it can't connect
[10:12] <ikonia> mr_g4bri3l: ubuntu help channel
[10:13] <mr_g4bri3l> ikonia: Does it have a general chat channel like linux mint?
[10:13] <ikonia> mr_g4bri3l: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:13] <mr_g4bri3l> ikonia: thanks
[10:14] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: Well... how can i find the problem
[10:14] <IsNotMyIP> ikonia: I feel really lost cus i dont know where i can fix it T.T
[10:15] <rocktop> hello , what is the best torrent tracker ?
[10:15] <ikonia> IsNotMyIP: talk to the node.js guys about debugging, that error clearly says connection problem, which you've confirmed - is working fine
[10:15] <IsNotMyIP> Allright i will open an issue on github
[10:15] <IsNotMyIP> Thanks ikonia
[10:15] <IsNotMyIP> rocktop: BitTorrent
[10:17] <mr_g4bri3l> Which IRC client do you people use?
[10:17] <rocktop> IsNotMyIP:  this is cleint not tracker
[10:18] <jack> mr_g4bri3l, hexchat here
[10:18] <skjones> XChat
[10:18] <llutz> mr_g4bri3l: no polls here please
[10:19] <jack> hint: ctcp version answers your question perfectly
[10:23] <marz> dwm doesn't seem to be applied to my system. After executing the command "sudo apt-get dwm" and logging out and logging back in. It doesn't seem to be in effect.
[10:23] <mr_g4bri3l> :Lost connection, Which IRC client do you people use?
[10:23] <llutz> mr_g4bri3l: no polls here please
[10:23] <marz> sudo apt-get install dwm
[10:24] <mr_g4bri3l> llutz: You may pm me and tell me.
[10:24] <llutz> marz: have you choosen dwm at the login screen as session
[10:24] <marz> llutz: it doesn't give me an ooption
[10:25] <marz> llutz: when my computer boots up it shows me the gnome log in screen then log in automatically
[10:25] <llutz> marz: stop auto-login, check for dwm in the session-list (or whatever it is called)
[10:26] <marz> llutz: How do i do that?
[10:27] <llutz> marz: idk, you have enabled autologin, you should know how to disable again
[10:28] <marz> llutz: I'm sorry, I didn't mean that the computer logs in automatically. It first shows me the log-in screen then I have to type in my credentials
[10:29] <mr_g4bri3l> marz: System settings--->User accounts--->Disable automatic login
[10:30] <marz> mr_g4bri3l: My bad, it doesn't log-in automatically, it shows me the log in page where I have to type in my credentials. But it doens't give me the option to choose dwm
[10:30] <mr_g4bri3l> marz: Click that ubuntu logo on the login thing and change it.
[10:31] <llutz> marz: if there is really no entry for dwm, add one. how is explained here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[10:32] <shubhamjain> Does anyone know of a way to find relative aptitude package name. Like, I know scipy must be a aptitude package, yet it is inevitable to google for the right package name.
[10:32] <DJones> !find scipy
[10:33] <DJones> shubhamjain: Does ubottu's response above help?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> shubhamjain: apt-cache search scipy
[10:33] <shubhamjain> Ok thanks. ActionParsnip
[10:40] <tuxdna> I am facing trouble installing any package using apt-get. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7032329/
[10:41] <tuxdna> Basically apt-get is trying to download to this location /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/ , but I haven't installed apt-cacher-ng yet.
[10:41] <marz_> Anybody have made dwm work on multiple monitors?
[10:42] <tuxdna> Also I can't install apt-cacher-ng either because of this issue.
[10:42] <tuxdna> Please suggest me a work-around for this problem.
[10:54] <franzfff> hello
[10:55] <franzfff> anyone here who would try to help me with a network problem? or any advice where I'd better ask for help?
[10:56] <pranav> i can ping between my device, but tftp is not working ? i have given permissions for dir and files. what should be kept in mind for tftp file transfers ?
[10:56] <Voyage> how to install flash for my browsers? it seems impossible
[10:56] <michagogo|cloud> franzfff: ask the question
[10:56] <michagogo|cloud> If someone knows, they'll answer it
[10:56] <tuxdna> I am facing trouble installing any package using apt-get. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7032329/ . Basically apt-get is trying to download to this location /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/ , but I haven't installed apt-cacher-ng yet. Also I can't install apt-cacher-ng either, because of this issue. Please suggest me a work-around for this problem.
[10:56] <michagogo|cloud> Or maybe they'll point you elsewhere
[10:57] <tuxdna> Or any pointers so that I can find the solution myself.
[10:58] <franzfff> I got a router and I want to get it's ip. If I set my ethernet-settings on automatic DHCP, I cant connect to my network. If I set an IP manually, I connect. But I can chose any IP I want. But with that IP I autoconnect to network. But I need the routers IP
[11:01] <spoutnik16> hi guys
[11:02] <spoutnik16> ubuntu 13.10 reports me that the package winbind is in a really incoherent state
[11:02] <spoutnik16> and i can't uninstall it or do anything about it
[11:03] <llutz> tuxdna: if you haven't installed apt-cacher-ng yet, why does apt try to use a different cache-dir? why/where did you configure it? you can set a temp-dir like: apt-get -o dir::cache::archives="/var/cache/whatever" install apt-cacher-ng
[11:04] <chatwithme> Oh ya baby I love poop please give it to me oh ya oh ya please baby ohay ya
[11:05] <setra> anybody? how to change .Xauthority file location
[11:05] <chatwithme> d
[11:05] <chatwithme> d
[11:05] <chatwithme> d
[11:05] <chatwithme> d
[11:05] <DJones> chatwithme: No
[11:05] <marjinal1st> How can I learn that my RAM is CL9 or CL11?
[11:05] <chatwithme> d
[11:05] <DJones> chatwithme: This is a support channel, please stay on topic
[11:06] <chatwithme> DJones: give me some poop please and I will stay on topic
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> hello
[11:07] <gagewgew> jello
[11:07] <tuxdna> llutz: let me try that. Thanks!
[11:08] <tuxdna> llutz: I got the this setup from a VM snapshot, perhaps the snapshot was corrput.
[11:09] <llutz> tuxdna: check /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*  , somewhere there should be the wrong config-file/-setting
[11:10] <dawkirst> Hi, I'm trying to uninstall an instance of Sublime Text from my machine. It's not listed in the package manager, so it must've been installed manually. But it is in the launcher. How can I remove it?
[11:11] <vishal_> hi
[11:11] <mr_g4bri3l> dawkirst: Try sudo apt-get --purge remove sublime
[11:11] <llutz> dawkirst: find / -type f -iname '*sublime*'
[11:12] <dawkirst> mr_g4bri3l, `Unable to locate package sublime`
[11:14] <dawkirst> llutz, thanks
[11:14] <mr_g4bri3l> dawkirst: sudo apt-get remove sublime-text-installer
[11:14] <llutz> dawkirst: dpkg -l|grep -i sublime               to make sure there is no package like that
[11:14] <dawkirst> llutz, mr_g4bri3l there's a Sublime Text 2 folder in /opt
[11:15] <codephobic> hi
[11:15] <marjinal1st> How can I learn that my RAM is CL9 or CL11?
[11:15] <dawkirst> llutz, returns nothing
[11:15] <llutz> dawkirst: so just a 3rd-party installation. remove it if you want to
[11:15] <mr_g4bri3l> dawkirst: How which method did you use for installing it?
[11:16] <codephobic> got a quick question, if I have not used tor in months, would there be any reason for it to suddenly show up on a list of processes in terminal (using the 'top' command)?
[11:16] <dawkirst> llutz, ok, where would the libs be? mr_g4bri3l, I didn't install it, so no idea
[11:16] <codephobic> I distinctly saw (and then killed) 'tor'. Yet I never started the process, so it was automatically backgrounding, somehow.
[11:17] <llutz> dawkirst: most likely its a flat-installation in /opt/... containg all it needs.
[11:17] <dawkirst> llutz, ok, that makes sense
[11:17] <mr_g4bri3l> dawkirst: sudo rm -r /opt/Sublime\ Text\ 2
[11:17] <mr_g4bri3l> sudo rm /usr/bin/sublime
[11:17] <mr_g4bri3l> sudo rm /usr/share/applications/sublime.desktop
[11:17] <llutz> codephobic: it might have been updated and restarted the service
[11:17] <mr_g4bri3l> sudo sed -i 's/sublime\.desktop/gedit.desktop/g' /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[11:18] <codephobic> llutz, that sounds rather spooky, how would it get to automatically restart if I've not used it in months?
[11:18] <llutz> codephobic: that you've not used it, doesn't mean it hasn't been running
[11:19] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Maybe it starts when you boot.
[11:19] <llutz> codephobic: did you disable tor autostart
[11:19] <dawkirst> mr_g4bri3l, thanks
[11:19] <codephobic> llutz, not that I recall, I just had problems with using the keyboard within torbrowser, so gave up.
[11:20] <codephobic> I definitely did not set it to start on boot, that's for sure.
[11:20] <codephobic> I'm going to purge it and see what happens.
[11:20] <llutz> codephobic: isn't it starting on boot by default?
[11:21] <codephobic> llutz, honestly I can't recall. I normally used the script to start it /.start-tor-browser ...
[11:21] <llutz> codephobic: anyways, if oyu don#t use it, remove it
[11:22] <codephobic> yeah, gonna do that
[11:22] <codephobic> but ... still seems strange.
[11:22] <llutz> i definetly need a new keyboard ...
[11:22] <codephobic> hopefully I haven't been ddos-ing random sites, at night. lol.
[11:23] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Tor slows down the net too much, you may as well through it and get a vpn.
[11:24] <codephobic> mr_g4bri3l, I was only checking it out because of the hype ...
[11:24] <codephobic> nothing any good in toor
[11:24] <codephobic> tor*
[11:24] <stephen> hello
[11:25] <Guest99476> i use linux mint
[11:25] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: I did that too, only to find that my a turtle was faster than my connection speed lol.
[11:25] <codephobic> maybe one day it'll be useful for p2p, but too slow and too much crap now.
[11:25] <llutz> !mint | Guest99476
[11:25] <codephobic> lol
[11:25] <Guest99476> ok good bye
[11:25] <llutz> tor would be nice if people would stop downloading "material for anatomic studies" over it ...
[11:26] <codephobic> llutz, yeah too many medical students, not enough pharmaceutical grads.
[11:27] <codephobic> It's like the internet from the '90s.
[11:27] <codephobic> Only with less Pamela Anderson.
[11:27] <codephobic> (sigh... I miss those times, simpler, quieter days).
[11:28] <mr_g4bri3l> The only way to be secure on the internet is to pray that black hats turn dumb. (;
[11:28] <codephobic> lol
[11:29] <codephobic> there is no security, there never could be ... the best thing to do is just assume it's all being read/followed/filed ... more Pamela Anderson!
[11:30] <codephobic> oh, the reason I first noticed tor is that my rhythmbox is eating up 100% of my CPU ... this happens a lot in Ubuntu and it's really beginning to cause me serious problems (CPU temp @ 75C)
[11:31] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Is it a laptop?
[11:31] <codephobic> desktop
[11:31] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Poor cooling system?
[11:31] <codephobic> I was planning on having some music playing while I write.
[11:31] <codephobic> mr_g4bri3l, cheap setup but still, this is pretty ridiculous.
[11:31] <codephobic> I've used this computer within windows, debian, opensuse ...
[11:32] <codephobic> Ubuntu - and only Ubuntu - causes problems.
[11:32] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Ubuntu is notorious for being heavy on weaker setups.
[11:32] <codephobic> I run VMs, servers, multiple text-editors, video ... all simultaneously and only in Ubuntu do I struggle :(
[11:33] <codephobic> this is quite disheartening to hear.
[11:33] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Keep a table fan beside your box. Problem solved.
[11:33] <codephobic> I moved to Ubuntu years ago, for the reason that it was quite a stable and low cost OS (hardware-wise)
[11:33] <codephobic> lol
[11:34] <codephobic> mr_g4bri3l, local temps are approaching 6C here.
[11:34] <codephobic> Either the CPU fries or I freeze?
[11:34] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: My friend had similar issues, My idea of a table fan works wonders for her.
[11:34] <Luyin> codephobic: if it doesn't what you need it to, why not switch to another distro?
[11:34] <gordonjcp> codephobic: that sounds highly unlikely
[11:34] <gordonjcp> codephobic: *all* Linux distros are exactly the same
[11:35] <codephobic> Luyin, because I like to see if I can sort it out, first. Rather than just migrate to some other distro
[11:35] <gordonjcp> codephobic: there are minor differences in the way things are packaged, but they make no real difference
[11:35] <mr_g4bri3l> gordonjcp: Some are notorious for heavy cpu usage.
[11:35] <gordonjcp> mr_g4bri3l: bullshit
[11:35] <codephobic> gordonjcp, I've used OpenSuse for months now, as a parallel install.
[11:35] <mr_g4bri3l> gordonjcp: Check the spu usage of puppy linux and ubuntu side bu side.
[11:35] <gordonjcp> mr_g4bri3l: that's not comparing like with like
[11:35] <codephobic> no such issues, just awkward and ... well, KDE.
[11:36] <gordonjcp> mr_g4bri3l: try comparing a moped engine with the one in my truck
[11:36] <codephobic> Ubuntu XFCE works fine, but has other bugs. Ubuntu Unity  ... stressful.
[11:36] <gordonjcp> mr_g4bri3l: is a moped "better" because it gets 130mpg?
[11:36] <codephobic> I think it all comes from Unity.
[11:36] <mr_g4bri3l> gordonjcp: You said all linux distros are the same, so all engines are the same lol.
[11:37] <gordonjcp> codephobic: Unity is one of the lightest DEs going
[11:37] <mr_g4bri3l> Unity is heavy.
[11:37] <mr_g4bri3l> XFCE = Light
[11:37] <codephobic> gordonjcp, sorry I like Unity but you are clearly wrong.
[11:37] <codephobic> indeed
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !lxde
[11:37] <gordonjcp> XFCE isn't really a desktop environment
[11:37] <gordonjcp> LXDE doesn't work
[11:37] <gordonjcp> it's a dead project, and it's too buggy
[11:38] <mr_g4bri3l> XFCE is a desktop environment.
[11:38] <gordonjcp> you can blow the backside out of LXDE by simply opening two instances of firefox
[11:38] <somsip> !ot | gordonjcp mr_g4bri3l
[11:38] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, ?  I suspect the lubuntu team would seriously disagree
[11:38] <gordonjcp> at which point it will crash and corrupt its config files to the point that it cannot be restarted
[11:38] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: lubunut is a joke distro
[11:40] <mr_g4bri3l> I think we should stop discussing other distros in ubuntu help channel.
[11:40] <codephobic> excuse me, I just had to give up and kill rhythmbox.
[11:40] <somsip> mr_g4bri3l: appreciated, thanks
[11:41] <codephobic> is clementine lighter than rhythmbox? I read good things about it... I need to be able to make playlists - music helps me work - so can't use mocp (though that is really light).
[11:42] <mr_g4bri3l> codephobic: Try Rhythmcat
[11:42] <codephobic> thanks, will go look for it now.
[11:42] <Luyin> codephobic: how about audacious?
[11:43] <mr_g4bri3l> Rhythmcat = 5-6 mb ram usage, The lightest.
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Can I please get some help?
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I have two ext4 partitions, one mounted to / and one to /home
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> the / partition is running low on disk space, there is no more left and I want to reduce the /home partition and add to the first
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> But the position of partitions do not enable the enlargment of the first (which is on top)
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !home|Wiz_KeeD,
[11:47] <mr_g4bri3l> Wiz_KeeD: use gparted
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> mr_g4bri3l, I know but read my issue
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I use gparted, I reduce the size of the partition mounted to /home
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> and then I cannot add it to the first because from what I've read it needs to be adiacent to the first...
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody?
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, what if I backup my partition that's mounted on /home, delete the entire partition, add the space to the first?
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I need someone really good with this to do it properly
[11:51] <mr_g4bri3l> Wiz_KeeD: Try running gparted from a livecd and move the partions.
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> mr_g4bri3l, move how? I tried from live_cd
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> What if I just copy the damn /home file somewhere and then delete the whole partition and have just one?
[11:54] <mr_g4bri3l> Backup your data and try it.
[11:55] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[11:55] <Wiz_KeeD> not that certain
[11:55] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, are you around to give a bit of advice?
[11:56] <mr_g4bri3l> Wiz_KeeD: How much space did you allocate for / ?
[11:56] <Wiz_KeeD> does it matter? 10gb on / and 17 on /home
[11:57] <mr_g4bri3l> Wiz_KeeD: I always allocate 20gb to / to play it safe.
[11:57] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't have much dual-booting on a ssd
[11:58] <mr_g4bri3l> Wiz_KeeD: Looks like you installed toomuch stuff that you most probably dont use.
[11:58] <Wiz_KeeD> aparently I cannot unmount it while running
[12:02] <bluerum> Hi. I installed the 64 bit version of 12.04 LTS on a laptap with 3 gigs of ram. Should I have installed the 32 bit instead?
[12:03] <llutz> bluerum: makes no real difference
[12:03] <mr_g4bri3l> Is your laptop 64 bit?
[12:03] <bluerum> Actually I'm not sure.
[12:03] <bluerum> new to this
[12:03] <llutz> otherwise it wouldn't have installed
[12:03] <mr_g4bri3l> No harm then.
[12:04] <bluerum> worked fine, so I guess i'm good
[12:04] <bluerum> thank you
[12:08] <boboc> guys i'm using ubuntu using ssh and using the root i have created another user, i have added it to sudoers group but when i log in with that user and try to install RVM i get this message: cannot create directory Permission denied
[12:08] <boboc> why i can't create a directory?
[12:12] <bgardner> boboc: What's the command you are issuing that throws the error?
[12:12] <boboc> curl -sSL https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable --ruby
[12:13] <boboc> it's from rvm website
[12:13] <boboc> and the user doesn't have permissions to create a directory
[12:13] <boboc> but i've added it using the root to the sudoers group
[12:13] <bgardner> boboc: Assuming you trust that site, then you need a sudo in the mix.
[12:14] <bgardner> boboc: Or lead with sudo su, then run that command.
[12:15] <bgardner> boboc: Adding a user to the sudoers doesn't grant them full-time root permissions.  It makes it possible for them to call sudo.
[12:22] <amitshree> Hello Everyone! I'm trying to send mail using php program from localhost. It gets submitted but I can't see it in my mail
[12:23] <amitshree> I have installed postfix
[12:24] <amitshree> can someone help me with this issue ?
[12:27] <geirha> amitshree: Check your spam folder
[12:28] <Guest45755> helpгшщ
[12:28] <Guest45755> привет
[12:28] <OerHeks> !ru | Guest45755
[12:29] <amitshree> geirha, Checked it. it's not there :(
[12:30] <geirha> amitshree: worth a shot
[12:30] <Guest45755> ubuntu-ru
[12:31] <andrex> Guest45755, дуй на убунту ру :D
[12:32] <amitshree> geirha, I think, I have configured postfix it incorrectly
[12:38] <brejoc> join #kolab
[12:38] <brejoc> woops. sorry!
[12:39] <is_> case: iam in chall user  when i run id command thi is the output :   uid=1002(chall1) gid=1001(tf) groups=1002(chall1),1001(tf)
[12:40] <is_> i want to access the file which have the permission : -r--r----- 1 tf f1 17 Mar  1 10:43 /home/f1/f1
[12:40] <is_> how it will be possible
[12:41] <geirha> is_: add your user to the f1 group
[12:41] <is_> how
[12:41] <geirha> sudo adduser "$USER" f1
[12:41] <geirha> next time you log in, you'll be a member of that group
[12:42] <is_> iam already in tf group na? can't i acces the file owned by tf user
[12:42] <geirha> is_: no
[12:42] <is_> i havent sudo permission
[12:42] <tuxdna> llutz: I found the issue. Basically the  proxy was making apt-get to write to /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/uburep . The proxy is set as apt-cacher-ng
[12:42] <is_> i have to read that file bro
[12:42] <geirha> is_: do you have control over the user named tf?
[12:43] <tuxdna> llutz: now I simply disabled the proxy and it is working fine.'
[12:43] <is_> no
[12:43] <geirha> is_: f1 user?
[12:43] <geirha> is_: you can't ask either to run some commands?
[12:44] <is_> but in the /etc/group  tf:x:1001:chall,chall2
[12:44] <is_> ya
[12:45] <is_> is there any possible way to read that file with some environment variables
[12:45] <geirha> is_: that means you are a member of the tf *group*, yes, but that doesn't give you any access over the tf *user*
[12:45] <is_> so is there any possible way ican read that file
[12:46] <geirha> is_: Only the users "root", "tf" and members of the group "f1" may read that file
[12:46] <is_> I HAVE THE $OLDPWD=/home/tf option in env
[12:47] <geirha> is_: If you could override file permissions by constructing some environment variable, the system wouldn't be very secure
[12:47] <is_> ya
[12:47] <is_> how to do that
[12:47] <is_> using environment variables
[12:48] <geirha> is_: not possible
[12:48] <geirha> unless there's a security hole I'm unaware about
[12:48] <is_> why?
[12:48] <is_> how to see those holes using .bashrc or .profile?
[12:49] <geirha> is_: ... I don't know how to respond to that. Your only option is to ask one of the users I mentioned earlier to help you
[12:50] <is_> thank u
[12:52] <is_> why my system is shutdowning suddenly by showing the message critical power reached
[12:54] <michagogo|cloud> is_: probably because your battery is low?
[12:56] <is_> ya
[12:59] <is_> sir can i hack the ssh session using environment variable if yes give me the tuorials page link i will read
[13:02] <michagogo|cloud> is_: …no
[13:02] <diverdude> How do i install cmake 1.8.12 on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:03] <Munster> o/
[13:08] <LinuxPC> I need some help with partitions. I have about 10 gigs of unallocated space and I would like to add that space to my linux bootable partition. Is that even possible?
[13:08] <jozefk> LinuxPC, can you just move the slider in gparted and enlarge the partition?
[13:09] <LinuxPC> I don't know, let me try...
[13:10] <jozefk> it should work if you have only 1 partition + that empty space
[13:10] <LinuxPC> I also have a 9 gig linux-swap
[13:11] <jozefk> where? try to move the swap to the right till end, in case it's not already there
[13:11] <LinuxPC> ok
[13:13] <LinuxPC> On my gparted screen, I have a linux-swap 9 gigs, a 10 gig unallocated and my primary linux partition.
[13:13] <jozefk> is that the order from left to right?
[13:13] <LinuxPC> yes
[13:14] <jozefk> then it could be a problem. but you can create a new 10GB partition on that space and use it :)
[13:14] <jozefk> or if you are brave move things around :)
[13:15] <jozefk> but backup all your files first!
[13:16] <LinuxPC> yeah, I'm not that brave. I think I will just make a 10 gig partition and use it for downloads
[13:16] <jozefk> yes. it's still something
[13:16] <LinuxPC> appreciate it
[13:16] <jozefk> :)
[13:19] <LinuxPC> One more thing....I chose to have a 9 gig linux-swap and this thing moves really fast. I am wondering why? I assume the swap is kind of like virtual live space?
[13:19] <jozefk> how much RAM do you have?
[13:20] <LinuxPC> 4 gigs
[13:21] <jozefk> that's enough
[13:21] <LinuxPC> so it is kind of like adding an extra 9 gig ram
[13:21] <dave305> how to install QT 4 package??
[13:21] <jozefk> you don't even need 9GB of swap. 4GB should be enough
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone have good experience with partitioning?
[13:22] <jozefk> :)
[13:22] <LinuxPC> was just making sure. I am very new to linux. I installed Ubuntu and left Microsoft for good.
[13:22] <sgo11> hi, I installed ubuntu with non-english language. Now, I changed everything to English system wide/globally. Everything works fine except grub boot loader screen. it has non-english chars at every reboot in the bootloader screen. How to fix this problem? thanks.
[13:23] <jozefk> LinuxPC, good decision. I mean at least I like Linux a lot
[13:23] <DW-10297> Does anybody know why the MEI module causes machines to power off instead of rebooting when the reboot command is issued?
[13:23] <LinuxPC> jozefk: thanks for the help.
[13:23] <jozefk> sgo11, edit the grub file and update the boot loader I guess
[13:24] <dave305> please help me to install QT4 package..
[13:24] <jozefk> LinuxPC, no problem :)
[13:24] <sgo11> jozefk, thanks for the hint. I am not sure how to do that.
[13:25] <jozefk> sgo11, it's simple. check it on google
[13:25] <sgo11> jozefk, it's simple. but I don't find options for language. I am checking the config file /etc/default/grub now. nothing locale related.
[13:27] <jozefk> sgo11, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:27] <jozefk> sgo11, cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:27] <LinuxPC> dave305, What kind of problem are you having?
[13:28] <dave305> I want to make gui application using C++..
[13:30] <LinuxPC> dave305, I'm not that good yet. Sorry, I'm still learning how to use QT4.
[13:30] <dave305> Ok..any way thanks
[13:33] <philinux> dave305;~ have you looked in synaptic for qt4. There are lots of packages
[13:34] <jozefk> sgo11, what I would try is to edit that file by replacing the text which is in another language and do: sudo update-grub
[13:34] <jozefk> I mean only the menuentry
[13:35] <sgo11> jozefk, there is "# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" in grub.cfg. I don't think edit that file is a good idea. BUT I also failed to find a proper config file to change the locale. this is a mess.
[13:36] <jozefk> sgo11, I know it's written. but if you are afraid, and even if you are not afraid, it is always good idea to backup the file first
[13:37] <jozefk> by the way I don't even see grub while booting. it just goes right to the login screen
[13:37] <sgo11> jozefk, I will change "set lang=" line in grub.cfg if there is no other ways. Before that, I am looking for another way. :) thanks.
[13:37] <philinux> jozefk;~ the file to edit is /etc/default/grub
[13:37] <a3cybe> и
[13:38] <philinux> then run update grub to regenerate grub.cfg
[13:38] <sgo11> philinux, I am the one who has this problem. :) what to put there for changing the locale?
[13:38] <jozefk> philinux, what to change in that file about wrong language?
[13:39] <philinux> jozefk;~ sgo11 no idea without looking at mine
[13:39] <jozefk> lol
[13:39] <jozefk> nothing is there
[13:40] <Ben64> its in /etc/grub.d
[13:41] <Ben64> 00_header:grub_lang=`echo $LANG | cut -d . -f 1`
[13:41] <philinux> sgo11;~ since you changed things system wide have you run sudo update-grub
[13:41] <Ben64> sgo11: read above
[13:41] <sgo11> philinux, that's a good idea. let me try that.
[13:41] <Ben64> sgo11: if $LANG isn't returning an english code, that'd explain it for sure
[13:42] <philinux> sgo11;~ if that does not work then see Ben64
[13:43] <sgo11> Ben64, philinux jozefk thanks a lot. I think it works. after doing update-grub, I checked set lang= in grub.cfg, it has been corrected. thanks.
[13:43] <Ben64> !yay | sgo11
[13:43] <sgo11> ^_^
[13:43] <philinux> sgo11;~ thought that would sort it
[13:43] <jozefk> ok :)
[13:43] <onlty> !yay |
[13:43] <onlty> !yay | D
[13:44] <onlty> huh?
[13:52] <dev_s> Hi Friends  can anyone tell me the default root passwd for this VM ubuntu-server-12.04-amd64 - Workshop V1.1
[13:52] <dev_s> i tried all sites but didnt get
[13:53] <dev_s> Hi Friends  can anyone tell me the default root passwd for this VM ubuntu-server-12.04-amd64 - Workshop V1.1
[13:53] <cfhowlett> dev_s, did you get it from Ubuntu?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> dev_s: there is no default root password in Ubuntu
[13:53]  * BroadcastStorm is away: White rabbit, white rabbit
[13:54] <somsip> !away | BroadcastStorm
[13:54] <dev_s> ActionParsnip: i got it from www.thoughtpolice.co.u
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> dev_s: then contact them
[13:54] <dev_s> its vmware machine
[13:54] <cfhowlett> dev_s, if there is a password, thoughtpolice added it, not ubuntu.  we don't know
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> dev_s: yes, some company has set the root password, contact them
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> dev_s: by default, ubuntu doesnt have a root password and you use sudo when you need admin powers
[13:59] <oscalation> where can i find a list of the applications that are installed by defualt in ubuntu?
[13:59] <foobar33> Can anyone help me diagnose my Internet problem: when I'm connected via cable, I sometimes lose connection, I then need to reboot my machine to make my wired connection work again.
[13:59] <faqih_dan_kucing> ._.
[14:00] <faqih_dan_kucing> em ? maybe anothe connections got same problems ?
[14:02] <foobar33> any way to look for new networking drivers?
[14:13] <jozefk> foobar33, is that only happens on Ubuntu?
[14:14] <qkzoo1978> If I log into my server via ssh, start a script that takes a  long time to run, and then get disconnected, does the script keep running?
[14:15] <cgt> Is it possible to configure the software updater thing to notify me of updates (not just security updates) daily? In the "Software & Updates" window I can only set it to "display immediately", "display weekly", and "display every two weeks".
[14:16] <cgt> qkzoo1978: No
[14:16] <cgt> qkzoo1978: unless you run it through something like tmux or screen
[14:16] <philinux> oscalation;~ here > http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:17] <qkzoo1978> cgt, thanks, i've used screen before, forgot about that.
[14:19] <gamoholic> qkzoo1978: To create a named screen use -S "screen -S myscreen". To reconnect use -r "screen -r myscreen"
[14:19] <qkzoo1978> awesome thanks!
[14:19] <gamoholic> :)
[14:19] <ice9> does modprobe makes the loaded modules work after rebooting?
[14:19] <Guest99284> when i use recordMyDesktop it takes to much  time to encode the file . is there any other program could be better ???
[14:21] <Guest99284> any idea ?
[14:22] <qkzoo1978> Anyone know off hand the FASTEST tool for importing data into an sqlite3 database, besides sqlitebrowser?
[14:22] <Guest99284>  when i use recordMyDesktop it takes to much  time to encode the file . is there any other program could be better ???
[14:22] <cgt> !patience | Guest99284
[14:23] <bazhang> !info kazam | Guest99284
  what's the command line to installl it ? thanks
[14:24] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kazam Guest99284
[14:24] <cgt> Guest99284: ubottu is a bot
[14:24] <jozefk> :))
[14:25] <Guest99284> thanks all of you !
[14:26] <ice9> when I use conntrack rule in iptables it didn't work,  until I figured out that conntrack modules are not loaded;  and iptables didn't raise any errors, howcome??
[14:26] <somsip> qkzoo1978: I'd imagine using the sqlite console
[14:27] <qkzoo1978> The data is raw data in csv with no tables defined, can sqlite console create the tables on the fly?
[14:27] <somsip> qkzoo1978: http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ImportingFiles
[14:27] <qkzoo1978> Im importing data from geonames.org, its at 18% and I started it on saturday o.O
[14:50] <yuki_> irc.rezosup.org
[14:51] <Walex2> ice9: #Netfilter may be a better channel... But anyhow 'iptables' modules are entirely *optional*. It is up to you to load what you want.
[14:52] <osbinas_> GOT error  updating with intel driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033381 any help?
[14:57] <Hanumaan> how to keep a short cut for "Always on Top" option in ubuntu ?
[15:04] <helmut_> hi
[15:05] <Wulframn> !hi | helmut_
[15:06] <oscalation> is ubuntu one music streaming , does this allow you to stream any music in the ubuntu library, or is it just streaming what songs you purchase / already have?
[15:06] <oscalation> https://one.ubuntu.com/services/music/
[15:06] <oscalation> the page is a little iffy
[15:08] <Walex2> oscalation: the song you have purchased.
[15:10] <wattttttt> hey guys, just installed a new nvidia graphics card but using the nvidia properitary drivers it won't detect my screen as a display and i'm stuck on 640x480 and can barely navigate, it worked fine on the xorg first driver but i tried simple gaming and it resulted in a decrease of performance commpared to the integrated so i'm trying to use the nvidia drivers which i selected in additional drivers
[15:11] <Hanumaan> got the solution : wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -b toggle,above if anything better is there would be great to know ..
[15:12] <wattttttt> i am using hdmi connected to my tv screen
[15:17] <oscalation> is the correct term for ubuntu for mobile phones  "ubuntu mobile" or "ubuntu touch"  ?
[15:19] <somsip> !touch | oscalation
[15:21] <Walex2> wattttttt: installing the nVidia proprietary driver is not a toally simple thing. For example each driver release supports only a specific range of models.
[15:24] <ice9> Walex2: but why iptables didn't complain from conntrack when I used it and it wasn't loaded?
[15:24] <ice9> Walex2: it seems ubuntu packaging specific issue
[15:24] <wattttttt> Walex2: should i be looking at nvidia drivers from nvidia's website or the manufacturer of my card instead of the additional drivers part of the settings? i noticed the performance difference even in 640x480 in terms of speed but it just won't detect my display (says it's using "built-in display") it's a GTX 760
[15:26] <a3cybe> Привет!
[15:26] <theadmin> !ru | a3cybe
[15:26] <a3cybe> !ru
[15:27] <a3cybe> Hi! How i can set my display resolution on 1080p
[15:27] <a3cybe> xrandr give me message X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist).
[15:28] <Munster> wattttttt, lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , to find the driver in use
[15:30] <Munster> wattttttt, recommend nvidia-current driver, it works for most nvidia gpus
[15:30] <Munster> gotta leave...BBL
[15:30] <usr13> a3cybe: We need the *exact* error message.  Is that it?
[15:32] <usr13> a3cybe: And what command did you give to generate the error?
[15:32] <a3cybe> xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[15:32] <usr13> a3cybe: xrandr  without arguments will show you available options.  Do you see 1920x1080 in that list?
[15:32] <a3cybe> no
[15:33] <usr13> a3cybe: I see.... ok
[15:33] <usr13> a3cybe: What is your video card?
[15:33] <a3cybe> DVI-I-0 connected primary 1360x768+0+0  - maximum
[15:33] <usr13> a3cybe: (What does lspci say about your video card?
[15:33] <a3cybe> usr13, GTX 560 Ti
[15:34] <usr13> a3cybe: That is Nvidia.  Right?
[15:34] <a3cybe> usr13, Yes )
[15:34] <usr13> a3cybe: Do you have the Nvidia drivers installed?
[15:35] <usr13> a3cybe: Do you have file   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ?
[15:35] <a3cybe> Yes i have it
[15:35] <VaticanCameos> I've automounted an NTFS hard drive using fstab. I don't know if it's related, but now I keep getting a "Filesystem root has <insert amount in hundreds> MB diskspace" error/warning. It also hampers my Dropbox sync activities - Dropbox is not on the Linux partition but on the automounted NTFS one. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.
[15:35] <usr13> a3cybe: Then you should see a GUI menu for manipulating screen size and monitor selection.
[15:36] <theadmin> a3cybe: Do you have an Optimus card? In that case you need either nvidia-prime or bumblebee.
[15:36] <usr13> a3cybe: nvidia-settings
[15:37] <a3cybe> http://i021.radikal.ru/1403/8d/810d1b9fe003.png
[15:37] <usr13> a3cybe: nvidia-settings  Is the X server settings GUI you will want to use, but as theadmin suggests, you may need aditional software to enable more advanced features.
[15:37] <a3cybe> in the gui is not at all possible to put 1080P
[15:38] <wxl> hey guys, i hava a weird avahi problem. i can avahi-browse other machines from my lenovo g700 and i can avahi-resolve them to the right ip and those machines can connect to this machine with .local, but i can't connect to them with avahi .local addressing. what am i missing?
[15:40] <VaticanCameos> Is there a way to get around this? Because disk space analyzer is counting the stuff on my automounted hard drive.
[15:40] <rajeshm93> Quit
[15:40] <wxl> VaticanCameos: you're trying to analyze disk space?
[15:41] <usr13> VaticanCameos: df
[15:41] <VaticanCameos> wxl: The system keeps telling me that the root filesystem is running out of space. In its analysis, it is counting the space occupied by items on my automounted harddrive as well.
[15:41] <VaticanCameos> usr13: Should I pastebin the results?
[15:41] <usr13> VaticanCameos: yes
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: what is the output of:  df -h; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[15:42] <usr13> VaticanCameos: df |pastebinit   #And send URL
[15:42] <giggsey> I've just got myself http://bit.ly/1cqTZ96 and I'm trying to boot 13.10 64bit LiveUSB, and I've also tried 12.04 32bit LiveUSB, and they start booting, and then the monitor stops getting any input. Any ideas?
[15:42] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Or, as ActionPa1snip suggests, give more info at once.
[15:43] <AnAnt> Hello, where does lightdm put logs of the user session ?
[15:43] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip, usr13: So I should do the first command?
[15:43] <wxl> giggsey: can you get a virtual terminal? (ctrl-alt-f1)
[15:43] <VaticanCameos> The one ActionPa1snip suggested
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: its all one command
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> giggsey: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[15:43] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip: Indeed it is! Pastebinning.
[15:43] <usr13> VaticanCameos: The one ActionPa1snip suggested
[15:44] <giggsey> ActionPa1snip, yes, nomodeset doesn't change anything
[15:44] <giggsey> wxl, trying now
[15:44] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip, usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033589/
[15:44] <giggsey> wxl, nope. None of the screens give any display back
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: thats not all of the comamnd I gave
[15:44] <VaticanCameos> Neat, I didn't know pastebinit existed.
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: cvopy ALL the comamdn I gace as ONE command, run it then pastebin the output
[15:45] <wxl> VaticanCameos: df -h is the most important part :)
[15:45] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip: I did this df -h; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: that will only pastebin the last text
[15:45] <VaticanCameos> Ah
[15:45] <usr13> VaticanCameos: You have to do the command(s) without pastebinit and then copy and paste the text
[15:46] <VaticanCameos> My bad, on it
[15:46] <usr13> VaticanCameos: (Ohterwise, we only get the last one)
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: df -h > ~/Desktop/data.txt; uname -a >> ~/Desktop/data.txt; dpkg -l | grep linux-image >> ~/Desktop/data.txt; lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/data.txt; pastebinit ~/Desktop/data.txt
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: if you want to do it the long way
[15:47] <wxl> or echo $(commands) | pastebinit
[15:47] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip: It is a wonder that you come up with that so fast. Wish I had that kind of thinking process. Anyway, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033616/
[15:47] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: copy and paste is a wonderful thing
[15:48] <VaticanCameos> lol
[15:48] <theadmin> wxl: echo $(commands)? Isn't that essentially the same as just running "commands"? :P
[15:48] <wxl> theadmin: not exactly in this case, since it pipes the output of ALL of the commands.
[15:49] <theadmin> wxl: Ah, good point.
[15:49] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip: The partition mounted on /media/Data is the automount NTFS drive.
[15:49] <theadmin> wxl: In that case, you could as well use (commands) | pastebinit
[15:49] <wxl> theadmin: ftw ;)
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic linux-image-3.5.0-39-generic linux-image-3.5.0-40-generic linux-image-3.5.0-41-generic linux-image-3.5.0-42-generic linux-image-3.5.0-43-generic linux-image-3.5.0-44-generic
[15:49] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip: Out of curiosity, what are these?
[15:50] <usr13> VaticanCameos: /dev/sda6 is too small, (out of space):  /dev/sda6        12G   11G   84M 100% /
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: then run:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: old kernels, you will keep the present kernel and one more in case
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: Ubuntu doesnt remove the old kernels.
[15:50] <usr13> as ActionPa1snip suggests, you can remove old kernels and free up some space.
[15:51] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip, usr13: It is freeing around 1.1 GB
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> 7 x 110Mb = 770Mb freed :)
[15:51] <usr13> VaticanCameos: That last one is the only one you need.
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: oh yeah and extras, d'oh
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> VaticanCameos: also run:  sudo apt-get clean
[15:51] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip: The first one is still running. Cool stuff :D
[15:52] <Daekdroom> ActionPa1snip, ubuntu removes old header packages in 13.10 and will remove kernel images in 14.04, btw
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> Daekdroom: only from Grub, the packages are still installed
[15:53] <not_roasted> hi - I'm on 13.10 but when I hold down super key, it does not bring up Unity shortcuts as I've seen on other systems. Ehh??
[15:53] <ActionPa1snip> not_roasted: if you make a new ubuntu user, is it the same?
[15:54] <not_roasted> ActionPa1snip: I haven't tried. I can try in a little bit. I have too much going on to kill my current session. I never saw the shortcut *not* work aside from a single AskUbuntu article that I dug up from 3 months ago.
[15:55] <usr13> not_roasted: Mabye you need to choose another keyboard setting.
[15:56] <theadmin> not_roasted: Does tapping Super open the Dash?
[15:56] <VaticanCameos> Is there a command which tells me which installed application takes how much space?
[15:56] <theadmin> VaticanCameos: Sort of, apt-cache show package-name will tell you that about a package
[15:56] <not_roasted> theadmin: yes. everything works perfectly aside from this hold-super-down thing.
[15:57] <theadmin> not_roasted: That is odd.
[15:57] <VaticanCameos> Weird. Disk Space Analyzer still says 100% full.
[15:57] <usr13> VaticanCameos: ls -ltrS    <will list by file sizes, largest last>
[15:58] <not_roasted> oddly enough theadmin , I DID mess with my keyboard setting as usr13 suggested because I was troubleshooting with another user...
[15:58] <usr13> VaticanCameos: du |sort -n   <will show directories sorted by size>
[15:58] <not_roasted> theadmin, usr13, but my keyboard setting si correct. US. :<
[15:58] <VaticanCameos> usr13: This is for the current directory right? A command which told me which application takes space would be cool.
[15:58] <usr13> not_roasted: (I said *maybe*)
[15:59] <usr13> VaticanCameos: correct
[15:59] <leon> hi everyone
[15:59] <VaticanCameos> ActionPa1snip, usr13: While space has definitely been freed, I was looking for a way to not have the system count the space occupied on the automount drive. Short of removing it from fstab, I don't see any other way. I need the drive because it has Eclipse and a Python repo.
[15:59] <VaticanCameos> Correction: Not eclipse, but the Android SDK.
[15:59] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Just FYI, (just shoing some helpful tools you might want to you as you explore your filesyste to see what you can do without).
[16:00] <zas> привет
[16:00] <VaticanCameos> usr13: Thanks for those. Will note them somewhere for convenient copy paste.
[16:01] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Why do you care that the space that is occupied by the other drive is counted?
[16:01] <zsa> ответ
[16:01] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Why does it matter?
[16:01] <VaticanCameos> usr13: Because that might be the reason it keeps throwing the filesystem root warning at me, or atleast that is what I perceive.
[16:01] <llutz> VaticanCameos: use "du -x ..." to ignore mounts/other fs
[16:01] <KIS> what is this line means in a cporgram          if(id > 10)  		{ execl("/bin/sh", "sh", NULL);  	else  		printf("Try again\n"); }
[16:02] <usr13> VaticanCameos: You will get warnings when any of your filesystems are out of space
[16:02] <VaticanCameos> llutz: Ah. I meant that I wanted the system not to count that drive when throwing warnings at me.
[16:02] <VaticanCameos> usr13: I guess that's the reality I have to live with.
[16:03] <llutz> KIS: http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/c/lesson2.html
[16:03] <usr13> VaticanCameos: I consider it an advantage (knowing when a partition is getting full).
[16:03] <VaticanCameos> I did not anticipate that my partition would actually get full.
[16:03] <KIS> i mean what is the meaning of execel
[16:03] <VaticanCameos> Ubuntu's space updates are usually quite efficient I think
[16:04] <llutz> KIS: http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/OLDC/subsubsection2_18_4_1_1.html
[16:04] <usr13> VaticanCameos: The alternative is that my system will no longer function when a disk is full.
[16:04] <VaticanCameos> usr13: Indeed..
[16:05] <lokai>     with open(outpath,'w') as f:
[16:05] <lokai> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'config/local_config.py'
[16:05] <usr13> VaticanCameos: This way, we know what the problem is.
[16:06] <KIS> best tool for pixel-value differencing steganography  stegano indentifier in linux
[16:06] <KIS> ?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> !best|KIS,
[16:07] <GivenToCode> im unfamiliar with iptables but i need to forward/reroute all traffic for a specific ip address to 127.0.0.1. Reading the iptables docs im not sure what that looks like
[16:07] <KIS> ok then give some of the links about that topic i havent found a single one in internet iam hopeless
[16:07] <usr13> VaticanCameos: What size is your hard drive?  (see sudo fdisk -l )(or pastebinit)
[16:08] <usr13> VaticanCameos: (You might consider re-arranging / re-sizing your partitions)
[16:08] <VaticanCameos> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033721/
[16:08] <bluerum> getting this message at about every other boot: http://imgur.com/tkNIs1h
[16:08] <VaticanCameos> But if I work on partitions, don't I risk losing data here or there?
[16:08] <bluerum> Anyone know why?
[16:08] <Huseyin> Hi,
[16:08] <Huseyin> Hi
[16:09] <rstefanov> hello
[16:09] <usr13> VaticanCameos: OK.  YOu have only 14G for linux and are leaving the rest of a 160G HD to MS Windows.  (Is that really what you want?)
[16:09] <rstefanov> i have a vpn network interface tun0 10.70.19.174 (local ip for the vpn interface) and a local network 192.168.10.0/24. what route do i need to add and how so machines on 192.168.0/24 are able to access servers behind that vpn (route needs to be done on the gateway machine which is 192.168.10.1, this is where vpn client is)
[16:09] <iptable> bluerum, the GUI is not loading.
[16:10] <VaticanCameos> usr13: Heh. Linux was an afterthought specifically for development.
[16:10] <bluerum> It doesent happen every time I start my computer. About 50 % of the time. What can I do?
[16:10] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Obviously, just an afterthought.  Ok.
[16:10] <VaticanCameos> The reason Windows gets that space is because 1. It's pathetic at space management 2. Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4.
[16:11] <KIS> my system is lenovo b560 model i installed kali linux side by windows my touch pad not working in linux
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> KIS: kali isnt supported here
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> KIS: ask in #kali-linux
[16:11] <vifino> Kali is debian
[16:11] <iptable> bluerum, check logs in /var/log/*, including Xorg logs to figure out what fails
[16:11] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Well, if those other partitions are not full, you could make some changes and have more room for Ubuntu.
[16:11] <VaticanCameos> usr13: Don't get me wrong, I spend most of my time on Ubuntu.
[16:11] <llutz> vifino: _based_ on debian*
[16:12] <VaticanCameos> I think I might have to buy a drive later, preferably an SSD. Would transfer all games there.
[16:12] <vifino> llutz yeah, yo right
[16:12] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Since you spend most of your time on Ubuntu, does it make sense that you have such a spall part of your HD allocated to it?
[16:12] <VaticanCameos> usr13: I did not anticipate the space boom. I should've.
[16:13] <iptable> rstefanov, it's not that simple. The router on the other side needs a route as well to route packets back to your 192 network
[16:13] <usr13> VaticanCameos: You have two HDs there, (280G worth), and you have 14G for Ubuntu.  ;)
[16:13] <iptable> rstefanov, is your tun0 set as default route?
[16:13] <rstefanov> iptable: on the other side (remote vpn) everything is sorted and i have no control over it. i can ping any machine behind the vpn from my local router
[16:13] <VaticanCameos> VaticanCameos: ;_;
[16:14] <rstefanov> iptable: default route is 192.168.10.1
[16:14] <rstefanov> thats the router's ip address
[16:14] <iptable> rstefanov, you still don't understand. Machine that's got 10. address pings using that address. machines which have 192. will try to ping using 192. address. The router on the other side cannot route to them. you would need to set your VPN router with tun0 as a NAT router with address translation. it's not jus a routing question
[16:15] <VaticanCameos> I mean, usr13: ;_;
[16:15] <VaticanCameos> lol tagged myself
[16:15] <usr13> VaticanCameos: http://gparted.org/
[16:15] <iptable> rstefanov, to find out how to setup NAT router, see this: http://glonek.co.uk/linux-router/basic-linux-router/
[16:15] <VaticanCameos> usr13: I am aware of gparted. Why the link? o.O
[16:16] <usr13> VaticanCameos: Ok, just so you know....  http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[16:16] <shafeeq> hi, can i set a specific font to be used for a specific language?
[16:16] <iptable> rstefanov, that's why most use VPN on their actual NAT router. it's easier to do all the routing, NAT and VPN there.
[16:16] <rstefanov> iptable: oh snap i remember now
[16:16] <rstefanov> i needed iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.10.0/24 -o tun0 -j MASQUERADE
[16:17] <usr13> VaticanCameos: (There are about 1600 others on here, and more than likely a few others with same problem) /FYI
[16:17] <iptable> rstefanov, for a start yes. that alone *might* work. try it.
[16:17] <rstefanov> thank you for giving me this clue
[16:17] <iptable> rstefanov, no probs
[16:17] <rstefanov> it does
[16:17] <rstefanov> the vpn server itself and remote routes on the other side are sorted
[16:17] <rstefanov> i just needed to do the same on my side
[16:17] <rstefanov> now it is working, thank you
[16:18] <Walex2> VaticanCameos: solving your space problem/second disk problem: is that slowed down by (lack of) money or space in the PC or time or?
[16:18] <iptable> no probs. rstefanov
[16:19] <VaticanCameos> Walex2: The first option.
[16:19] <VaticanCameos> Brb!
[16:22] <lukas999874212> Bunos dias, tengo un problema con la instalacion de mi ubuntu, al parecer nop lee mi targeta grafica, una ati 5520
[16:22] <jhutchins> !es
[16:24] <jozefk> maybe it's Portuguese :)
[16:24] <webzz> Hello, anyone know how to increase the network manager authentication timeout?
[16:27] <jhutchins> jozefk: I think it's Spanish.
[16:28] <jhutchins> jozefk: System didn't detect his graphics card.
[16:29] <boboc> guys how can i fix this error? Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[16:29] <boboc> the server is running but when i try to migrate a rails app to db i get this error
[16:31] <llutz> boboc: "grep socket  /etc/mysql/my.cnf"
[16:31] <sudormrf> hey guys! I am looking for assistance with fail2ban.  my question is related to what I put in the jail.local file for the "banaction" and "action".  Basically I am not 100% sure what to put there.  Can someone please assist?
[16:32] <boboc> llutz: http://pastebin.com/fsNp1KTb
[16:32] <llutz> boboc: you see the answer?
[16:32] <boboc> not really sorry, i'm new to sql
[16:32] <llutz> boboc: your rails.app tries the wrong socket path
[16:33] <bodie_> any eta for 14.04?
[16:33] <llutz> bodie_: april
[16:33] <boboc> so i should change /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock to the /tmp/mysql.sock?
[16:33] <ActionPa1snip> bodie_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:33] <llutz> boboc: either that or change the path in the rails.app if possible
[16:33] <bodie_> thanks :)
[16:34] <joshu_> hi what's the difference between running insserv vs update-rc.d to install an init script?
[16:34] <boboc> llutz: ok thanks
[16:34] <joshu_> Is one preferred over the other?
[16:34] <bodie_> anyone know what kernel is in 13.10 offhand?
[16:34] <bodie_> 3.11
[16:34] <faqih_dan_kucing> 3.11 ?
[16:34] <ActionPa1snip> !info linux-image-generic saucy
[16:34] <bodie_> I need 3.13, but I can't seem to make 14.04 work on my laptop -_-
[16:35] <bodie_> guess I could just try a kernel upgrade :)
[16:35] <usr13> joshu_: I think update-rc.d is to enable scripts.  Right?
[16:35] <faqih_dan_kucing> yapz :)
[16:35] <joshu_> usr13 yeah but it seems from the man page of innsserv that it too enables scripts
[16:35] <joshu_> usr13 http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/insserv.8.html
[16:36] <bodie_> I think 3.11 has an issue with Haswell i7's auto underclocker where it gets stuck at its lowest speed
[16:36] <ActionPa1snip> bodie_: have you reported a bug?
[16:36] <bodie_> eh, I saw a release note about fixing it in 3.12 or 13 (I forget which)
[16:36] <usr13> joshu_:  I think the first line of the man file is a bit missleaging, if you look under DESCRIPTION, you see: "update-rc.d updates the System V style init  script  links"
[16:37] <bodie_> and i can confirm it was working on 14.04, but i'm having boot issues -- i may ask in +1 about that, or just go with 13.10 and upgrade kernel
[16:37] <plong> ciao..|||
[16:37] <plong> !list
[16:38] <joshu_> usr13 ok and for insert it says "   insserv  enables  an  installed  system  init script (‘boot script’) by
[16:38] <joshu_>        reading the comment header of the script, e.g.:"
[16:38] <ActionPa1snip> bodie_: your choice, we cannot support any other kernels in here excpet the ones from the ubuntu repos
[16:38] <usr13> joshu_: It just changes the name of the files from S* to K* or K* to S* (far as I know, that's all it does, someone correct me if I'm wrong)....
[16:38] <jhutchins> joshu_: There were like 6 different utilities for managing init scripts.  Which ones are updated for upstart I don't know.
[16:38] <joshu_> jhutchins I see
[16:38] <jhutchins> usr13: It adds or removes links in the appropriate runlevels.
[16:39] <joshu_> usr13 jhutchins  which would you run if the script has been copied to /etc/init.d/my_script
[16:39] <usr13> joshu_: jhutchins Ok, I stand corrected, it will either change the name of or create a new symlink.  Right?
[16:39] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: both, K ius killed, then the S ones are started
[16:40] <llutz> joshu_: insserv needs lsb-compliant script-headers.
[16:40] <usr13> jhutchins: I don't think it relly removes a link, it just changes the name from S* to K*
[16:40] <joshu_> llutz I have that. I followed the example in /etc/init.d/README
[16:40] <bodie_> Thanks ActionPa1snip :)
[16:40] <raks437> Guys I managed to install Ubuntu along side my Win8 with UEFI..please let me know how can I help other people with the same ?
[16:41] <llutz> usr13: man update-rc.d   see "remove"
[16:41] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: Yea, I know, and that is what it does, just changes the file name of the sysmlink, from S* to K*, (doen't really remove the link, just dissables it in that fashon). Right?
[16:41] <llutz> usr13: what you mean is "disable"
[16:42] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: sounds right to me
[16:42] <sudormrf> no one?
[16:43] <jhutchins> raks437: Write out the steps, with particular attention to any parts where the existing documentation wasn't clear to you.
[16:43] <jhutchins> raks437: Post it to a blog or a wiki.
[16:44] <jhutchins> usr13: No.
[16:44] <sudormrf> if my goal is to append the IPs defined by <HOST> to the IP Tables with the DROP flag, what do I enter in lines 16 and 17? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7033846/
[16:45] <jhutchins> usr13: What it actually does is controlled by the header of the init file.
[16:45] <raks437> @jhutchins:  well I was thinking to post this using Launhpad as an answer to all ? do any have a track on any bug or question in lp ?
[16:45] <jhutchins> usr13: The init utilities add or remove links to the init script with appropriate names.  They don't rename them.
[16:46] <llutz> joshu_: btw update-rc.d just uses insserv to take real actions, it's more of a wrapper script now
[16:46] <jhutchins> usr13: When transitioning from one runlevel to another, the option is to start or kill a program; the init process does that by which kind of link and what it's priority is.
[16:47] <jhutchins> usr13: Ubuntu, like most Debian derivatives, doesn't realy use different runlevels.
[16:47] <joshu_> llutz ok is it better to use the wrapper or the low level insserv?
[16:48] <llutz> joshu_: i'd use insserv
[16:48] <joshu_> llutz cool I will try that. thanks for those who took part in the discussion
[16:49] <llutz> update-rc.d is more of a relict from those days today imho. just existing for compatibility to old systems/script
[16:51] <usr13> jhutchins: Yea, in which case, pretty much the only ones that matter are in /etc/rc2.d/  Right?
[16:51] <jhutchins> usr13: 0 is shutdown, 1 is single user/rescue, 2-5 are identical, 6 is reboot, default is 2.
[16:52] <usr13> jhutchins: Well, yea, I'm just talking about startup scripts.
[16:52] <usr13> jhutchins: Because when a ubuntu machine starts up, it just goes to runelvel 2
[16:54] <usr13> jhutchins: So, what ever starts with S in /etc/rc2.d/ gets started and what ever starts with K does not.   Right?
[16:55] <bittu> ii
[16:55] <bittu> hiiiiiii
[16:55] <bittu> heyyy
[16:55] <cfhowlett> bittu, yes we see you
[16:58] <jhutchins> usr13: Right.
[16:58] <jhutchins> usr13: Actually, whatever starts with a K gets explicitly killed, which is why the system doesn't just rename S to K.
[16:58] <usr13> jhutchins: Well some things  have changed.   Was just looking for cups (on 12.04) and I see that it is now:  /etc/init.d/cups -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[17:00] <usr13> jhutchins: Well, that is the way update-rc.d *used* to work, (I guess back in 10.04), maybe that is changed now....
[17:00] <jesus_> alguien habla español?
[17:00] <cfhowlett> !es|jesus_,
[17:00] <usr13> julieanna: But even 10.04 used upstart.  Right?
[17:01] <usr13> sorry julieanna, That was for jhutchins
[17:02] <julieanna> no worries usr13
[17:07] <bodie_> where would I look for boot logs?
[17:08] <theadmin> bodie_: /var/log/boot.log
[17:08] <bodie_> so if it's booting, it's definitely generating a boot.log?  cause it's not in /var/log
[17:08] <theadmin> Hm, should be if the boot works
[17:08] <llutz> bodie_: sudo apt-get install bootlogd
[17:09] <bodie_> mkay. trying to debug a boot issue (maybe grub is failing to hit the bootloader?)
[17:09] <bodie_> er
[17:09] <bodie_> actual OS bootloader
[17:10] <bodie_> I have a haswell Vaio laptop, there was some weirdness with grub since it doesn't follow UEFI standard quite right
[17:11] <bodie_> you have to rename it to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi or some such
[17:11] <bodie_> anyway, it wasn't hitting grub, but I installed rEFInd and now I'm able to load GRUB
[17:11] <bodie_> but it's still not making it to the boot process, I guess.  just hangs there on a purple screen after selecting the GRUB entry
[17:12] <bodie_> is there a utility similar to arch-chroot where you don't have to mount all the right volumes?
[17:13] <OerHeks> bodie_, rEFInd is for apple, not sure what you want with it on your Vaio?
[17:13] <OerHeks> !uefi
[17:13] <bodie_> erm, it works for any UEFI booting system
[17:13] <bodie_> thanks ubottu, perfect!
[17:14] <bodie_> you the man (or lady) :)
[17:15] <Pici> (robot)
[17:16] <ggherdov> hello. If I wanted to know from where the ubuntu packagers take the source code for the tool called "nmon", http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/nmon who should I ask ?
[17:16] <ice9> why netfilter modules are not loaded automatically when using conntrack in iptables?
[17:20] <llutz> ggherdov:  "... Please consider filing a bug or asking a question via Launchpad before contacting the maintainer directly."
[17:25] <ggherdov> llutz: sure.
[17:28] <Pessimist> ggherdov, http://nmon.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php
[17:35] <ggherdov> Pessimist: awesome
[17:38] <Pessimist> ggherdov, I think it took 2 clicks to find this website from the link you provided
[17:39] <llutz> Pessimist: 1click
[17:39]  * ggherdov llutz Pessimist indeed. I should learn to use this clicking thing on my desktop
[17:40] <ggherdov> thanks and sorry for the noise
[17:40] <Pessimist> np, just don't spam the maintainers
[17:41] <ggherdov> yes. lesson learnt
[17:42] <GivenToCode> ive disabled respawn in my upstart script yet it keeps respawning. is that normal?
[17:43] <z3r0c007> hello
[17:47] <sudormrf> is someone around to help me verify that fail2ban is working?
[17:47] <sudormrf> and running?
[17:48] <usr13> GivenToCode: Have you restarted the service yet?
[17:48] <usr13> GivenToCode: (I don't know really but....)
[17:49] <GivenToCode> usr13, i am trying to stop my service
[17:49] <GivenToCode> stop my_service
[17:49] <GivenToCode> but it keeps restarting
[17:49] <usr13> GivenToCode: sudo service <name-here> stop
[17:49] <jhutchins> GivenToCode: What service?
[17:50] <GivenToCode> jhutchins, its an internal app
[17:50] <sudormrf> anyone?
[17:51] <GivenToCode> usr13, those commands are synonymous
[17:51] <usr13> I had an internal app once but it came out
[17:51] <ActionPa1snip> sudormrf: ps -ef | grep -i fail | grep -v grep
[17:52] <jhutchins> sudormrf: Just watch your logs.
[17:52] <sudormrf> ActionPa1snip: when I do that I get no result.  when I just do ps aux | grep fail2ban I get something
[17:52] <sudormrf> jhutchins: which log? fail2ban log? syslog?
[17:53] <llutz> sudormrf: use fail2ban-client  to get info about fail2ban
[17:53] <llutz> sudormrf: like "fail2ban-client status"
[17:54] <sudormrf> llutz: let me take a look
[17:54] <sudormrf> llutz: it says the it is unable to contact the server.
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> sudormrf: yes, you see grep running don't you
[17:54] <llutz> sudormrf: pgrep fail2ban
[17:55] <sudormrf> llutz: returns nothing
[17:55] <llutz> sudormrf: sudo grep fail2ban /var/log/syslog          to check why it doesn't run
[17:55] <sudormrf> ActionPa1snip: oooohhh...that's what that means
[17:55] <sudormrf> llutz: checking
[17:55] <sudormrf> llutz: returns nothing
[17:56] <llutz> sudormrf: check other logs too, idk where it logs to
[17:56] <llutz> if not syslog*
[17:56] <ActionPa1snip> sudormrf: grep -v means 'inverted grep', so show lines without the text on
[17:56] <ActionPa1snip> sudormrf: otherwise you'll always see grep running
[17:57] <sudormrf> ActionPa1snip: good to know.  :).
[17:57] <sudormrf> llutz: hmm.
[17:57] <ActionPa1snip> neater
[17:57] <usr13> a clever way of not confusing yourself ;)
[17:57] <ActionPa1snip> especially if you are piping to wc -l
[17:58] <sudormrf> llutz: I got it sorted! thanks!
[17:59] <Xuisce> hello
[18:00] <llutz> ActionPa1snip: use brackets to eliminate grep, like: ps aux | grep [f]ail2ban
[18:01] <sudormrf> yay! llutz ActionPa1snip thanks!!!!!
[18:01] <ActionPa1snip> llutz: cool, learn something new every day
[18:02] <llutz> ActionPa1snip: or ps $(pgrep fail2)       or or or  :)
[18:02] <ActionPa1snip> llutz: is pgrep on all gnu distros?
[18:02] <llutz> ActionPa1snip: comes with psmisc
[18:03] <llutz> ActionPa1snip: pgrep/pkill, very handy imho
[18:04] <llutz> i'm not sure if it comes with *buntu by default
[18:05] <ActionPa1snip> llutz: ahh i see, i like to keep to the ones which are on everything, thats why i learned vi
[18:05] <llutz> yup
[18:11] <mjuszczak> Can someone help me interpret this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/911747 -- was that added in 13.10 or 14.04?
[18:15] <parapan> Hi all / I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 - Bios version A17 - 4 Gb RAM Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Sys Information shows only 3,2 Gb RAM / I manually installed PAE support - still 3,2 GB RAM / checked DELL website A17 is the latest Bios version ....what should I do ???
[18:16] <llutz> !info openssh-client | muh2000   from version number, it is already in 13.10
[18:16] <OerHeks> mjuszczak, yes, saucy proposed
[18:20] <mjuszczak> OerHeks: saucy proposed is an add-on repo, correct?  Will it be part of main then in 14.04?
[18:20] <flips> plan: run ubuntu on thinkpad tablet 2 (32 bit atom tablet pc), UEFI secure boot is set to off in BIOS. Downloaded 32 bit desktop image (850 MB or something) ... How should I proceed? Just dd the iso to the thumb drive (/dev/sdb) or partition (/dev/sdb1)?
[18:21] <llutz> !info openssh-client  trusty
[18:22] <llutz> mjuszczak: looks like
[18:23] <OerHeks> mjuszczak, yes, you can enable it in softwarecenter > edit > sources... not sure it is available in 14.04 standard
[18:24] <Plasmastar> Hi.
[18:25] <Plasmastar> What size DVD would I need to make a copy of Ubuntu?
[18:26] <kezu> does apache no longer work with php in ubuntu did a new install and php pages wont load
[18:26] <michagogo|cloud> Plasmastar: Erm, I think there's only one size of DVD
[18:26] <Plasmastar> 4 and 8 GB sizes
[18:27] <usr13> kezu: It does but must be enabled
[18:27] <michagogo|cloud> Plasmastar: The Ubuntu ISOs are all <1 GB, I believe
[18:27] <kezu> usr13, can you please tell me what i need to do to get it working\
[18:27] <kezu> the browser just tried to doanload php pages
[18:27] <kezu> was working before but i deleted apache and reinstalled it
[18:28] <michagogo|cloud> Some of them are small enough to fit on a CD, others aren't, but they should all fit on a DVD
[18:28] <kezu> also does /var/www no longer act as the default directory for apache?
[18:29] <sudormrf> ok.  another question about fail2ban.  currently the rule I created is doing this "racoon: ERROR: Invalid exchange type 243 from <HOST>", does anyone know if I can set a wildcard for the error number? meaning instead of 243 it would be something like *?
[18:29] <usr13> kezu: Just a sec..
[18:29] <kezu> k
[18:30] <sudormrf> I am going to run some regex tests now
[18:31] <Plasmastar> What the crap. Why is the newer version not LTS?
[18:32] <bazhang> 14.04 is lts
[18:32] <Plasmastar> Also. If I have 2GB memory, would 32-bit not run, at all?
[18:32] <ActionPa1snip> Plasmastar: 32bit will rn if you want
[18:33] <steve_> HEy
[18:33] <Zal> when I run "apt-get remove openjdk-6-jdk", apt removes the package, and then installs openjdk-7-jdk automatically. Presumably because I have another package installed which requires java. Is there a flag I can pass to force removal *without* replacement?
[18:33] <Plasmastar> bazhang: I see 12.04 and 13.10 on the site.
[18:33] <Plasmastar> Am I missing something?
[18:33] <steve_> Guys im on CrunchBang
[18:33] <ActionPa1snip> steve_: crunchbang isnt supported here
[18:33] <bazhang> Plasmastar, 14.04 is the next lts, the current lts is 12.04
[18:34] <ActionPa1snip> Plasmastar: its not released yet, so you woint see it on the site yet. You can get prerelease with some searching
[18:34] <Plasmastar> Are there any actual advantages or cons between 32-bit and 64-bit flavors?
[18:35] <usr13> kezu: Are you on 12.04?
[18:35] <sudormrf> anyone?
[18:35] <sudormrf> llutz: ?
[18:35] <shadyhosny> i want to install skype but it doesnt want to
[18:35] <kezu> usr13, yes
[18:36] <Plasmastar> When did Ubuntu become so hard. :)
[18:37] <kezu> ikr
[18:37] <kezu> i installed apache with the server install everything worked fine
[18:37] <kezu> now a year or so later i reinstalled apache after an error that appeared out of nowhere
[18:37] <llutz> sudormrf: no real idea, but aren't those rules regex-based? so it shouldn't be a problem to use wildcards
[18:37] <kezu> and nothing works
[18:38] <sudormrf> llutz: I think my problem is I don't know what the wildcards are for this.  I have tried *, *., <*.> and all the regex tests have failed
[18:38] <bazhang> !info skype partner | shadyhosny
[18:39] <sudormrf> llutz: man fail2ban says "no manual entry for fail2ban"
[18:39] <bazhang> enable the partner repo shadyhosny
[18:39] <shadyhosny> bazhang how can i enable it
[18:40] <sudormrf> I think i found it
[18:40] <sudormrf> llutz: I think it is .*.
[18:40] <llutz> sudormrf: in doubt http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[18:40] <sudormrf> llutz: no period at the end
[18:40] <bazhang> shadyhosny, in software updates/update manager/synaptic which do you use
[18:41] <bazhang> !partner | shadyhosny
[18:41] <llutz> sudormrf:  \d+  does not work?
[18:41] <mr_lou> Hello all.
[18:42] <sudormrf> llutz: let me try it
[18:42] <mr_lou> So, I'm a bit behind on upgrading. I've waited upgrading because I was working on a project. So I only upgraded to 12.04 just now.
[18:42] <sudormrf> llutz: .* absolutely works
[18:42] <usr13> kezu: See my PM
[18:42] <sudormrf> llutz: that also works
[18:42] <gcbirzan> How does one search for bugs related to a package in launchpad?
[18:42] <mr_lou> Problem: After upgrading my internet is gone. I can get it back though, but typing sudo service network-manager stop and start in a terminal after boot, but I'd sure like to get it back normally. Can anyone help?
[18:43] <mr_lou> *but = by
[18:43] <sudormrf> llutz: are both accomplishing the same thing, or is one better than the other?
[18:43] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Is there anything in the logs about it when it fails?
[18:43] <llutz> sudormrf:  \d+ only matches decimals, .*  any chars
[18:44] <sudormrf> llutz: ah, I will go with \d+ for now.  thank you again!
[18:44] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, How do I view the logs? During boot, it takes a long time trying to configure network. "Waiting another 60 seconds for network".
[18:44] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: It should be in /var/log/syslog, probably. Though, I know nothing about network manager, except that it's crap :P
[18:45] <windows> hi
[18:45] <trism> gcbirzan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagename; you can see the source package name in the: apt-cache show packagename; output (Source or Package if no Source)
[18:45] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Your problem, however, sounds like your network interface isn't brought up automatically at boot. If you check /etc/network/interfaces, do you have an auto blah, where blah is your main network interface (should be eth0 for a desktop)
[18:45] <shadyhosny> still cant enable repo
[18:45] <gcbirzan> trism: Yeah. Not helpful for kernel bugs, I wanted to search for a specific version, I see 2.6 bugs in there :P
[18:46] <gcbirzan> 1 → 75 of 2859 results
[18:46] <windows> any way to make guvcview or cheese to work like video security on laptop to motion det and rec video ;)
[18:46] <trism> gcbirzan: yeah for that I would use google, launchpad linux version bug description
[18:46] <gcbirzan> Oh, well. Gonna try to see if upgrading initramfs fixes it
[18:46] <gcbirzan> <-- is trying to install 3.13 on saucy from trusty.
[18:46] <trism> gcbirzan: honestly it is usually easier to find bugs on launchpad from google anyway
[18:46] <shadyhosny> bazhang cant find it
[18:47] <gcbirzan> trism: Yeah, I was afraid of that :P
[18:47] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Hmm... well... nothing looks suspecious, but I don't know what to look for.
[18:48] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: You can post it on bpaste.net or something similar
[18:48] <kezu> anyone know whay apache no longer works with php on reinstall?
[18:48] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Yes, checked interfaces. It does have a line with iface eth0 inet dhcp
[18:48] <kezu> it just tries to download php pages
[18:48] <shadyhosny> guys i downloaded skype from the website but i cant install it
[18:48] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: It should have a line, above, saying auto eth0
[18:48] <llutz> kezu: sudo a2enmod php5 && sudo service apache2 reload
[18:48] <kezu> apache2 reinstalled on ubuntu 12.04 server
[18:49] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, oh... hmm...
[18:49] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, auto eth0 is below that line.
[18:49] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Though, granted, I'm not really sure how Ubuntu does it, I'm way more familiar with Debian :)
[18:49] <gcbirzan> that should be fine
[18:49] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, mkay
[18:50] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, afaik pastebin doesn't require an account.
[18:50] <gcbirzan> Nope.
[18:50] <Liam-> I'm having issues with apt-get. http://paste.ml/sakimu.avrasm Yet even after removing the apt/lists/*, it still doesn't save/gives teh same error
[18:50] <tmager> shadyhosny: what's the problem with it?
[18:50] <meraj> hi
[18:50] <meraj> I cloned libpthread source from git repository
[18:50] <shadyhosny> tmager: i cant install skype on the laptop
[18:50] <Liam-> I'm thinking, because I saw the SAME Ubuntu server on multiple errors, it's the actual italy server (assuming what "it" is)
[18:50] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, When I call sudo service network-manager stop, it replies:
[18:50] <meraj> I can't find any makefile in there
[18:50] <mr_lou> stop: Unknown instance:
[18:51] <meraj> can anyone tell me how to make the library?
[18:51] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: What happens if you say "ps aux | grep -i network
[18:51] <gcbirzan> Without the quote
[18:51] <tmager> shadyhosny: I realize that, but specifically why not? what's the file you're trying to install from called?
[18:51] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, I get this back:
[18:51] <mr_lou> root      2635  0.0  0.1  23468  5796 ?        Ssl  19:41   0:00 NetworkManager
[18:51] <mr_lou> sirlou    2777  0.0  0.0   4404   844 pts/1    S+   19:51   0:00 grep -i network
[18:51] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: I'm assuming you booted 10 minutes ago?
[18:52] <alok99> Has anyone ever tried to install Ubuntu on an iMac that doesn't have OS X on it?
[18:52] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Yup
[18:52] <mjuszczak> OK, I'm confused.  Would something that's in proposed still be included in the man file?  Out of box Ubuntu 13.10: man sshd_config | grep AuthorizedKeysCommand | wc -l -> 5
[18:52] <gcbirzan> Hm, let me try to find a ubuntu machine :P
[18:52] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, But at the moment, I am online using this machine. So probably not useful to run that command right now?
[18:52] <mjuszczak> ... yet SSH refuses to restart when I add that in. Supposedly the version of SSH with it supported is only available in proposed, but why would it be in the man page?
[18:52] <shadyhosny> tmager: skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.13-1_i386 thats the file name
[18:53] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: You should, in /var/log/syslog, have stuff like this: Mar  3 07:51:49 tedy-pc NetworkManager[1283]: <info> (eth1): DHCPv4 state changed renew -> renew
[18:54] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog
[18:54] <meraj> anyone can help with making libpthread from source?
[18:55] <tmager> shadyhosny: sorry, disconnected for a second -- anyway, if it's not a .deb have you tried just running ./whateverthefilenamewas?
[18:55] <llutz> mjuszczak: according to the launchpad link you pasted earlier, the openssh version in 13.10 already has the patch integrated
[18:55] <diverdude> Hello....i have downloaded these binaries: http://www.hdfgroup.org/HDF5/release/obtain5.html How do i install them on the system?
[18:55] <llutz> mjuszczak: so yes, it should be mentioned in the man-page and no, no need for proposed
[18:55] <shadyhosny> tmager: how can i get that ?? am new to ubuntu
[18:56] <tmager> hit ctrl-alt-t to open the terminal and navigate to the directory that has the file in it
[18:56] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Also, as a curiosity. When you just boot, can you ping stuff, or is it just tha tthe web browser won't work?
[18:57] <Pici> meraj: what are you trying to accomplish here?
[18:57] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Haven't tried. But web and mail didn't work. (Thunderbird)
[18:57] <diverdude> can anybody help me?
[18:57] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Pretty sure it's everything. :-)
[18:57] <shadyhosny> tmager: sorry but i forgot how to navigate to a specific location
[18:57] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: You can try. Network manager has this feature where it thinks it doesn't have Internet, but it does, so software that's ware of it won't even try to connect
[18:57] <mjuszczak> llutz: Oh okay, thank you.
[18:57] <Liam-> http://paste.ml/sakimu.avrasm <-- Can anyone help fix this?
[18:58] <meraj> Pici: I want to cross compile pthread and generate a libpthread.a for arm
[18:58] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, So try to ping e.g. www.google.com ?
[18:58] <cyford> i keep having unexpected dns issues..
[18:58] <tmager> shadyhosny: cd newlocation
[18:58] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Yup.
[18:58] <meraj> Pici: I cross compiled libncurse already
[18:58] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Alright, will try. bbl. :-) Thanks
[18:58] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Not that it'd fix your problem, but at least you know where to start.
[18:58] <gcbirzan> Or what to blame :)
[18:58] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Yuo
[18:58] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, I mean Yup
[18:58] <meraj> Pici: but I can't seem to find out how to do it with pthread
[18:58] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Rebooting to bring back the problem.
[18:59] <Guest69562> hey guys I have an emergency please help me to install Moonlight (silverlight) for either firefox or chromium plz ???
[18:59] <xsay> hello everyone, I created a new password to use for my disk partition, and copy-pasted it as the new password during changing, and all was done successfully. but when I wanted to access the partition, it says wrong password and I cant unlock the partition. how can this be?
[19:00] <cyford>   my ubuntu is having unexpected dns issues..    i have my own dns server   and  all others are working fine,   nslookup displays fine  athough it shows comming from 127.0.0.1#    but i cant ping   smtp.googlemail.com
[19:00] <cyford> i can from centos,
[19:01] <Juju> Hello i want to use some java type software... It needs (at least) sun-java6-jre
[19:01] <Juju> where can i install this?
[19:01] <tmager> shadyhosny: you in the directory yet?
[19:01] <cyford> also    having  2 dns  servers on this machines doest act as backup..  more like load balancing for me
[19:02] <cyford> juju  i installed from source
[19:03] <Mr-64br13l> Juju: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[19:03] <Mr-64br13l> $ sudo apt-get update
[19:03] <Mr-64br13l> $sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[19:03] <Juju> but.. i meant, i don't want to install the software to create java applications, i only need to run applications
[19:03] <Pici> meraj: Are you sure that you don't already have it and that it is just looking in the wrong path?
[19:03] <Juju> oracle-java7-installer is the software to create them or to run them?
[19:03] <Mr-64br13l> Juju: Installing that will help you run the java program that you need.
[19:03] <cyford> source on java website  but i had to get icetea  for it to work with firefox
[19:04] <ekh> I have ubuntu 10. Is there a way to install v13 without a CD or USB?
[19:04] <viej> hello everyone, my password change was done successfully. but now the new password isnt accepted, and I cant access the disk partition
[19:04] <meraj> Pici: I have one which I got from a toolchain
[19:05] <meraj> Pici: but when I try to link it (libpthread.a) it gives all sorts of symbol not found errors
[19:05] <meraj> Pici: I can give you pastebin output
[19:05] <shadyhosny> tmager: sorry but i dont know what to type after cd
[19:05] <path0gen> type this
[19:05] <path0gen> man cd
[19:05] <Pici> meraj: Hm... I just got alerted to a work issue here that I need to take a look at, but perhaps someone else here (or in ##linux) can give you a hand
[19:05] <llutz> ekh: debootstrap
[19:06] <meraj> Pici: ok
[19:06] <meraj> Pici: thanks
[19:06] <viej> hello everyone, my password change was done successfully. but now the new password isnt accepted, and I cant access the disk partition
[19:08] <cyford>   <viej>   is the username the same case as the one u use to use?
[19:08] <viej> cyford,
[19:08] <viej> I only need password, itis for the disk partition. therefore I dont need a username
[19:08] <maultitude> Is there a way to specify different ssh ports for internal and external users?
[19:09] <heath> heya
[19:09] <maultitude> I need port 22 for certain softwares used internally, but prefer not exposing 22 to the outside world
[19:09] <cyford> ohh u encripted the disk
[19:09] <usr13> viej: What do you mean "for the disk partition".  What exactly are you trying to login to?
[19:09] <heath> i'm wanting to change the launcher keyboard shortcut to the typical key used on mac machines for launching it's dash
[19:09] <llutz> maultitude: are you behind a router?
[19:09] <heath> I'm guessing there's some other way of doing this besides using ccsm?
[19:09] <badass> can i preserve environment variables set in a bash script and pipe the variables to another command?
[19:10] <heath> CCSM isnt' working for the launcher
[19:10] <Guest69562> hey guys I have an emergency please help me to install Moonlight (silverlight) for either firefox or chromium plz ???
[19:10] <badass> $bash -C "/path/to/env.sh; echo $variable;"
[19:10] <badass> how can i accomplish this?
[19:10] <badass> env.sh would set $variable
[19:10] <usr13> viej: Oh, are you using an encrypted filesystem of some sort?
[19:10] <gcbirzan> badass: export variable
[19:10] <maultitude> llutz: yes. want to forward a nonstandard ssh port, but still be able to use ssh on port 22 internally
[19:10] <cyford> guest if its for netflix  u need to use wine
[19:10] <gcbirzan> badass: without the $ sign.
[19:10] <viej> usr13, it is a partition of my external disk. I wanted to change its password. and I created a new one in my password vault. then I copy-pasted it during the pw change process. it was changed successfully. then I entered the new pw to access the partition, and it is not accepted since.
[19:10] <badass> gcbirzan: yeah i tried that
[19:10] <maultitude> llutz: actually, I'm a jackass
[19:10] <parapan> Hi all / I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 - Bios version A17 - 4 Gb RAM Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Sys Information shows only 3,2 Gb RAM / I manually installed PAE support - still 3,2 GB RAM / checked DELL website A17 is the latest Bios version ....what should I do ???
[19:11] <maultitude> llutz: I just won't forward port 22.. duh..
[19:11] <gcbirzan> badass: Oh. You mean from a script!
[19:11] <gcbirzan> badass: I get it.
[19:11] <llutz> maultitude: just let ssh listen on 22 and  configure portforwarding outside xxx -> inside 22
[19:11] <gcbirzan> badass: You can't. However, if you can run the script in the current shell: . /patch/to/env.sh
[19:11] <badass> yeah the bash file contains 'export THIS_VARIABLE="value"'
[19:11] <gcbirzan> Or, well, source /path/to/env.sh
[19:11] <badass> :-/
[19:11] <gcbirzan> Instead of running it.
[19:12] <badass> so bash -C "source /path/to/env.sh; echo $THIS_VARIABLE"
[19:12] <gcbirzan> badass: Yup.
[19:12] <badass> hmm
[19:12] <llutz> maultitude: that's from WAN-side the same as letting ssh listen on port (xxx) !=22
[19:12] <badass> thx
[19:13] <badass> gcbirzan: it does not work
[19:13] <maultitude> llutz: I just added the second port into /etc/ssh/sshd_config.. will only forward the new one on the router. 22 will just stay blocked from the outside
[19:13] <alok99> Has anyone ever tried to install Ubuntu on an iMac that doesn't have OS X on it?
[19:13] <gcbirzan> badass: http://bpaste.net/show/gZD1igrpl10nPWq5Y3eJ/
[19:13] <llutz> maultitude: works too, makes just no sense
[19:14] <badass> hmm
[19:14] <badass> weird im not getting those results ><
[19:14] <llutz> maultitude: if you're not directly connected to the internet, nobody from WAN will see the real ssh-port. that's job of portforwarding
[19:14] <viej> usr13, this is extremely strange. instead of trying to access with the new password, I tried to change the password again. since for this I had to enter the present pw first, I did so, and the change was successful (the first pw was accepted). what more, I can access the partition with the new pw now.
[19:15] <badass> gcbirzan: try it with an export?
[19:15] <maultitude> llutz: that's a good point.
[19:15] <gcbirzan> badass: Are you sure you're doing exactly what you typed? Again, you cannot export a variable in a parent process, so if you do bash -c '. foo.sh'; echo $a, it won't work
[19:15] <viej> stranger than paradise
[19:15] <usr13> viej: Very good.
[19:15] <viej> but how come?
[19:15] <gcbirzan> badass: It works, as expected.
[19:16] <gcbirzan> badass: http://bpaste.net/show/HXXMC1z3oHkjWQ5K8QEJ/
[19:17] <badass> okay yeah
[19:17] <badass> i did separate the quote
[19:17] <badass> thanks
[19:17] <viej> as far as I've seen, there is no restriction on the composition of passwords, right? you can use any special character.
[19:17] <gcbirzan> You're welcome!
[19:17] <gcbirzan> viej: Yes.
[19:18] <gcbirzan> Though, I wouldn't know where to begin telling you how it works with non-ascii
[19:18] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, No, couldn't ping anything. Looked in the syslog again, but couldn't spot anything weird.
[19:18] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: Could you paste the relevant (whatever network manager says) to bpaste.net or pastebin, whatever :)
[19:19] <gcbirzan> Also, I've ordered food and it'll soon be here, so I might need to leave :P
[19:19] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, From syslog? Ok
[19:19] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Ok
[19:19] <adamcunnington> Hi, I have quite a gap in my understanding on best practice re. third party stuff / even stuff in ubuntu repositories
[19:19] <adamcunnington> When is it better to use ubuntu repository over getting an up to date version
[19:20] <gcbirzan> adamcunnington: I'm not sure I understand the question.
[19:20] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Hm.. actually there are only 2 NetworkManager lines when it fails:
[19:20] <mr_lou> Mar  4 20:08:44 sirlou-desktop kernel: [   23.030089] type=1400 audit(1393959587.752:4): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" name="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action" pid=538 comm="apparmor_parser"
[19:20] <mr_lou> Mar  4 20:08:44 sirlou-desktop kernel: [   23.030107] type=1400 audit(1393959587.752:5): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action" pid=553 comm="apparmor_parser"
[19:20] <gcbirzan> But, in my experience, mixing different versions of Ubuntu (or, God forbid, Debian, or other variants) on the same system doesn't always work flawlessly
[19:21] <usr13> adamcunnington: Just depends what version of what app you want/need, but it is always best to use the package management system.
[19:21] <gcbirzan> Case in point, you cannot install the trusty kernel on saucy :)
[19:21] <usr13> adamcunnington: If you can tell us what it is you want to do with your computer, we might be able to tell you of a way to do it.
[19:21] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Those are the only two lines that has the word "networkmanager" in them during boot in the syslog.
[19:21] <adamcunnington> usr13: take wine and winetricks
[19:22] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Mixing different versions? Was that for me?
[19:22] <viej> thank you all for your help, good night!
[19:22] <gcbirzan> mr_lou: It was for adamcunnington
[19:22] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Ok. :-)
[19:22] <usr13> adamcunnington: Ok.... And your question _______________?
[19:22] <usr13> adamcunnington: Have you considered VM?
[19:22] <adamcunnington> usr13: winehq advised that my version of winetricks and probably wine is really outdated and i should get it from winehq.com - would that be a PPA?
[19:23] <adamcunnington> usr13: i have considered it yes but in my case, I am trying to install replaymusic which is sound-card recording software. I want to be able to record locally, rather than booting up virtualbox
[19:23] <gcbirzan> It could be. Debian has this wine-unstable package, which is a newer version
[19:23] <usr13> adamcunnington: I just use the version that is available from the repository, (and works fine for everyting I've used it for).  So, have you tried using it for anything?  Or have you even installed it yet?
[19:23] <adamcunnington> usr13: replaymusic isn't working with wine because there are 2 files that it requires that are missing; wmvcore.dll and lassolib.dll. Someone suggested that winetricks might have a solution which i'd not heard of before so i'm now looking into winetricks and on the way, someone suggested that my version is really out of date
[19:24] <adamcunnington> usr13: it installed with wine, looks like ubuntu 12.04 packages it with it
[19:24] <mr_lou> After upgrading to 12.04 I've lost the ability to invert the colours. I'd really like that back.
[19:24] <adamcunnington> usr13: i don't know how to use it yet, i'm at that stage now, i don't even know what it 'is' lol
[19:24] <usr13> adamcunnington: Why not use native software for hyour recordings?
[19:25] <parapan> Hi all > ubuntu 12.04 reports 3,2 Gb of RAM / lshw report memory 2x2 GB / where is the rest of ?
[19:25] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Would it be a good or bad idea to upgrade to 13.04 before fixing this network issue?
[19:25] <adamcunnington> usr13: because replaymusic is good and i've paid for a license forit
[19:25] <usr13> adamcunnington: ONce you have wine installed, when you bring up a .exe file, it just loads it up.
[19:26] <adamcunnington> usr13: unless there is a better, free, native version that you can suggest
[19:26] <adamcunnington> usr13: wine doesn't work with it due to 2 missing .dlls as i said above. This is why i'm now looking into winetricks
[19:26] <usr13> adamcunnington: But use the tools and apps that are already available for Ubuntu, (rather than trying to install applications that are supposed to run on MS Windows systems).
[19:27] <usr13> adamcunnington: Again:  Have you considered VM?
[19:27] <adamcunnington> usr13: again, that won't help - did you read what i said above?
[19:27] <adamcunnington> usr13: there is no ubuntu alternative to replay music that is even 1/10th as good
[19:28] <adamcunnington> usr13: it auto tags and everything
[19:28] <llutz> parapan: uname -m        are you using 32bit?
[19:29] <adamcunnington> man, i need 2 computers, 1 for linux and development, the other windows for actually doing stuff. Linux is a million years away in terms of getting things to support it :|
[19:29] <usr13> adamcunnington: I don't know about the app your talking about, but I've used audacity
[19:30] <usr13> adamcunnington: And how long have you been using Linux?
[19:30] <adamcunnington> usr13: audacity is quite different
[19:30] <adamcunnington> usr13: about 4 days
[19:30] <adamcunnington> usr13: but like 50% of the things i wanted on here, I can't
[19:30] <adamcunnington> usr13: itunes, internet explorer for web dev testing purposes, replay music, sonos controller - all don't work
[19:30] <adamcunnington> even with wine
[19:31] <llutz> adamcunnington: linux is not a starter for windows applications
[19:31] <adamcunnington> even programs that do work with wine have partial functionality. Ubuntu is awesome but there are certain things I need to be able to do on it that I currently can't - feel like I've hit a brick wall
[19:31] <usr13> adamcunnington: I still do not understand why you don't want to use virtualbox
[19:31] <usr13> adamcunnington: (What you have said makes no sense at all.)
[19:31] <adamcunnington> llutz: i understand that but it's also not an alternative when support is so limited
[19:31] <llutz> adamcunnington: depends on the usage, ymmv
[19:31] <adamcunnington> usr13: because then whenever i want to use this software, i have to boot up virtualbox and have the software duplicated inside it
[19:31] <gmachine_24> OK enough; debate this somewhere else
[19:32] <parapan> llutz: yes
[19:32] <adamcunnington> gmachine_24: this is not a debate - i'm merely trying to get things working
[19:32] <usr13> adamcunnington: You *have* hit a brick wall, (because you have installed linux and only want to run MS Windows apps).
[19:32] <johtso> ouch, is there a way to bulk roll-back the actions of an accidental apt-get upgrade?
[19:32] <gmachine_24> adamcunnington, I came in late. What is your problem?
[19:32] <llutz> parapan: 32bit cannot handle more than ~3.2 GiB, you'll need 64bit to use the full 4GB (or PAE)
[19:32] <adamcunnington> usr13: That's not true. I will run any app that can do what i used to use, did.
[19:33] <johtso> I have the changes made from the logs
[19:33] <usr13> adamcunnington: Have you tried virtualbox before?
[19:33] <parapan> llutz: installed PAE kernel manually
[19:33] <usr13> adamcunnington: Have you tried aduacity?
[19:33] <adamcunnington> usr13: yes. Replay Music and audactity are years apart, they do different things
[19:33] <gcbirzan> johtso: Not really.
[19:33] <johtso> gcbirzan, damn
[19:33] <adamcunnington> usr13: replay music records and auto tags tracks. Audacity is a very broad 'audio manipulation' tool
[19:34] <parapan> llutz: lshw command reports 4 GB RAM / virtualbox reports 3,585 GB RAM on the host machine - ubuntu / Ubuntu system monitor reports only 3,2 Gb Ram
[19:34] <adamcunnington> gmachine_24: I want to be able to run spotify / chromium in ubuntu and record using software called replaymusic
[19:34] <Beldar> johtso, There is no last working option here, what is the issue, it might be easier to fix?
[19:34] <paulobtr> hi
[19:34] <anidude> Hello
[19:34] <adamcunnington> gmachine_24: Replay Music is not available for linux and so i tried to install it using wine - it installed succcesfully but it won't run as there are 2 missing DLLS. That's where I'm at and the stage in which I am stuck
[19:34] <usr13> adamcunnington: Well, I do not know what you want to do.  I have not used Replay Music and do not know what it does.  If Replay Music does not have a Linux alternative, take it up with their developers, (complain to them, not us).
[19:35] <adamcunnington> usr13: sorry, i don't mean to complain, just frustrated but i'm genuinely looking for a solution. As i understand it, virtualbox essentially runs as a separate machine and so it couldn't possibly record from software running outside of it, no?
[19:35] <gmachine_24> adamcunnington, I never use wine so I can't help you.
[19:35] <johtso> Beldar, I was hoping to be able to do something general and automatic, as this caused a whole swathe of packages to be upgraded, and across two servers
[19:35] <anidude> So, my father just installed ubuntu onto an old laptop, as his win7 partition was just nasty, and he says he'd played with  linux before
[19:35] <llutz> parapan: vmstat -s -SM | head -1
[19:35] <parapan> llutz: maybe the rest is taken by the embedded video card ? but that reports a max of 256 Mb
[19:36] <anidude> however, the tv he's using as a monitor isn't being used as a sound output
[19:36] <usr13> !vbox | adamcunnington
[19:36] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/8AQtJ9SC can someone help me with this issue. it was working fine last night. i wake up to this
[19:36] <anidude> via the hdmi
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> adamcunnington  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated, ask your question there
[19:36] <parapan> llutz:   3275 M total memory
[19:36] <anidude> any reasons the hdmi port isn't being used as a sound output?
[19:36] <anidude> he's been playing with video card drivers trying to get it to work
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> the file permissions are properly set
[19:37] <llutz> parapan: uname -a    reports PAE kernel and "grep -i pae /proc/cpuinfo" shows some "flags" lines?
[19:37] <Beldar> johtso, Not anything I can do, however with details this channel is helpful.
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> yet... it says bad ownership
[19:37] <parapan> llutz:  3.5.0-46-generic #70~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 9 23:56:40 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:38] <llutz> parapan: thats not a PAE kernel afaik
[19:38] <johtso> Beldar, yeah, fair enough, I'm going to start with trying to roll back postgres specific packages as that's where things are breaking at the moment
[19:38] <AcidRain2012> someone please just take a look at it when you get a chance and give me any type of advice. http://pastebin.com/8AQtJ9SC
[19:38] <parapan> llutz: flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce
[19:38] <llutz> parapan: well your cpu supports PAE but the kernel doesn't.
[19:39] <parapan> llutz: I was thinking the same > that's why I installed PAE manually .....restarted, but the situation is the same ....
[19:39] <paulobtr> I'm on 12.04 64bit. I'm trying to endode a flv file to xvid avi  (old dvd/tv player format). The following line: avconv -y -i video.flv -acodec libmp3lame -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag xvid video.avi ......retuns: unknown encoder libmp3lame. Synaptic show me that I have libmp3lame0, so I try with that...same result: unknown encoder libmp3lame0....
[19:39] <llutz> AcidRain2012: ls -ld /media/AcidShower/FTP/jkdf2/       must be root-owned
[19:40] <parapan> llutz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE i followed the instructions from this page . . .
[19:40] <usr13> !info virtualbox-guest-additions.iso | adamcunnington
[19:40] <AcidRain2012> llutz, i just tried it with root owned. didnt work. same issue
[19:40] <yofun> Question why is my server seeing its LAN IP instead of its WAN IP ( http://stats.frenzic.net)
[19:41] <yofun> Question why is my server seeing its LAN IP instead of its WAN IP ( http://stats.frenzic.net)
[19:41] <parapan> llutz: i saw the difference on the kernel files since i've installed kali beside ubuntu ...and on the grub screen the kali kernel  has the PAE indication ....
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> llutz, when root owned: fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/media/AcidShower/FTP/jkdf2/"
[19:42] <anidude> anyone?
[19:42] <AcidRain2012> drwxrwxr-x 6 root root 4096 Mar  4 13:10 jkdf2
[19:42] <bekks> yofun: Can you elaborate what you are doing?
[19:42] <yofun> bekks: do you notice it says its IP is a lan IP?
[19:43] <llutz> AcidRain2012: the full path must be root:root and the user must not have any writeaccess
[19:43] <bekks> yofun: Define "it" first.
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> paulobtr  winff is a nice tool to convert audio/video files
[19:43] <AcidRain2012> huh... if the full path is root:root then the user wouldnt have any write access
[19:43] <kapad> test
[19:44] <bekks> yofun: And what exactly are you expecting, when running apache/php locally on the server?
[19:44] <yofun> bekks: on that stats page " Listening IP10.14.47.12" "it" is the server
[19:44] <AcidRain2012> llutz, just checked. full path is root:root
[19:44] <llutz> AcidRain2012: create a writable dir under $ChrootDirectory
[19:44] <yofun> I'm expecting it to show the WAN IP
[19:44] <yofun> Not the LAN
[19:45] <AcidRain2012> llutz, i have one: drwxrwxr-x  3 LSF_Nick2000 root      4096 Mar  3 20:56 JKBot
[19:45] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust ok, thank you, I'll try that...
[19:45] <AcidRain2012> this is /jkdf2/JKBot/
[19:45] <llutz> parapan: well if you installed and booted the PAE-kernel ... no idea why it doesn't show up as pae. "grep PAE /boot/config-$(uname -r)"
[19:45] <bekks> yofun: "It" is running locally on the server generating that webpage. Until configuring that page/code/whatever to display a custom IP, it will display your local LAN IP.
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> yofun  paste this line in terminal    sudo apt-get install curl;curl ifconfig.me
[19:46] <bekks> yofun: Oh, and you could update to an LTS enablement stack kernel.
[19:48] <johtso> I mistakenly caused this upgrade to happen "postgresql-9.1:amd64 (9.1.9-0ubuntu12.04, 9.1.12-0ubuntu0.12.04)" how can I roll it back if apt doesn't seem to have the version anymore?
[19:48] <usr13> adamcunnington: sudo apt-get install virtualbox virtualbox-guest-additions.iso
[19:50] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust same error with winff: unknown encoder libmp3lame.....
[19:50] <yofun> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/MrK25ppf
[19:50] <yofun> bekks: how?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> ok, that's lib mp3 lame, looking it up
[19:51] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust synaptic show me that I have libmp3lame0
[19:51] <bekks> yofun: How what?
[19:51] <anidude> anyone able to help with this hdmi issue?
[19:51] <yofun> 1:46 PM <bekks> yofun: Oh, and you could update to an LTS enablement stack kernel.
[19:52] <adamcunnington> what is the easiest way to wipe ubuntu and reinstall? I want a fresh install!
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> paulobtr  my guess: it's not a mp3 file, even if it looks like one
[19:52] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust but avconv from shell say same thing: unknown encoder libmp3lame0......
[19:52] <bekks> yofun: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-saucy
[19:52] <paulobtr>  avconv -y -i video.flv -acodec libmp3lame -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag xvid video.avi
[19:53] <yofun> adamcunnington: backup files And load the ISO file via USB?
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> paulobtr  try without libmp3lame
[19:53] <paulobtr> * avconv -y -i video.flv -acodec libmp3lame0 -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag xvid video.avi ....result: unknown encoder libmp3lame0....
[19:53] <yofun> 1:51 PM yofun 1:46 PM <bekks> yofun: Oh, and you could update to an LTS enablement stack kernel. <-- how so?
[19:53] <bekks> adamcunnington: Boot a livecd, and reinstall.
[19:53] <bekks> yofun: I told you.
[19:53] <adamcunnington> ok thanks
[19:53] <yofun> Oh I see now
[19:54] <usr13> adamcunnington: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[19:54] <usr13> adamcunnington: Yea, boot the liveCD or USB and install, (that's all there is to it).
[19:56] <usr13> adamcunnington: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=lts
[19:56] <diverdude> when i do apt-get install someprogram-dev,  what is it in that command that makes it possible to reach that library and its header files from anywhere?
[19:57] <usr13> diverdude: apt-cahce showpkg someprogram-name
[19:58] <bodie_> diverdude, I think the installer puts the libraries of "whatever-dev" into places on your filesystem that your compiler knows to look for libraries
[19:58] <llutz> diverdude: ldconfig, but it shouldn't be needed to run it manually
[19:58] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust http://pastebin.com/Mvs7Zd0S
[19:59] <usr13> diverdude: apt-cache  not apt-cahce  (typo)
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> paulobtr  try using as little options as possible, in your command, see what it syas
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> paulobtr  or does
[19:59] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust why I have not a valid libmp3 lame library?
[20:00] <diverdude> llutz: like this one for example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7034833/ i dont see that much info
[20:00] <llutz> diverdude: don't know what apt-cache should help you
[20:01] <diverdude> llutz: i want to know what files are put where
[20:01] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust or why avconv don't like my libmp3lame0 library?
[20:01] <llutz> diverdude: dpkg -L package
[20:01] <usr13> diverdude: Or   cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/some-name.list
[20:02] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust there's alternatives library to libmp3lame on ubuntu for encoding mp3?
[20:03] <Left_Turn> is there a way to get the date created value of a file?
[20:03] <llutz> Left_Turn: no
[20:03] <Left_Turn> wow really?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> paulobtr  not sure, maybe the people in #ubuntustudio can help better -- it's not the same distro, i know, but that's my hint
[20:03] <Left_Turn> ok thanks
[20:03] <llutz> Left_Turn: ext4 has a field for creation-time, but afaik its not in use yet
[20:04] <Left_Turn> llutz, oh i see. ah well:(
[20:04] <paulobtr> MonkeyDust ok, thanks for your patience, bye :)
[20:05] <cameron> I am attempting to build a package for launchpad and getting the following errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/7034759/ dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libGL.so.1
[20:05] <llutz> Left_Turn: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4  "Improved timestamps"
[20:05] <Left_Turn> oh nice.. thankd llutz
[20:07] <adamcunnington> do i need to install java runtime environment in ubuntu?
[20:07] <adamcunnington> for web applets
[20:09] <Left_Turn> llutz, wow I didn't know it was that deeply rooted. Thanks again for the link.
[20:10] <llutz> Left_Turn: one would think "easy, just add it, why haven#t it been done ages ago". well, not that easy
[20:10] <Left_Turn> very true.. i was one of them:(
[20:12] <llutz> Left_Turn: but it's still a would-be-nice-to-have feature
[20:14] <mr_lou> gcbirzan, Hey. I got it working. I commented out the eth0 lines in network/interfaces. For some reason my connection now uses eth4, and apparently those two lines messed it up. Not quite sure how I get a connection now, since there's nothing about eth4 in network/interfaces, but I don't care as long as it works. :-)
[20:14] <Left_Turn> yes totally... now i'll make a file to store all creation dates of useful files:) @ llutz
[20:15] <llutz> Left_Turn: could be using incron to automate that, i guess
[20:16] <Left_Turn> ohh.. never heard of it.. i'll look into that
[20:16] <superkiwi> How do I set native resolution (2560x1440) on a monitor that has bad EDID on HDMI? I only get 1920x1080. I've extracted EDID from Windows.
[20:17] <llutz> Left_Turn: an idea how to do: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14692353/executing-a-bash-script-upon-file-creation
[20:17] <Left_Turn> ah awesome.. thanks
[20:18] <diverdude> how can i check if there are duplicate filenames in 2 different directories?
[20:20] <llutz> !info fdupes | diverdude
[20:25] <alazyworkaholic> I have a very strange filesystem mount error for a partition (sdd7): Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sdd7: Command-line `mount "/mnt/88GB"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: special device /dev/sdc7 does not exist  (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[20:25] <alazyworkaholic> why would sdc7 matter at all?
[20:26] <diverdude> llutz: hmm so if i want to compare /home/usern/a and /home/usern/b/foo with fdupes, how do i then do that?
[20:26] <llutz> diverdude: fdupes /home/usern/a  /home/usern/b/foo
[20:28] <llutz> diverdude: too hard?
[20:30] <diverdude> llutz: mmm why does fdupes  /usr/lib/ /usr/lib/ give no output?
[20:31] <llutz> diverdude: because its nonsense
[20:32] <diverdude> llutz: i wanted to check the output in a case where i am sure there is duplicates...and then there is none :/
[20:35] <llutz> diverdude: same file != duplicate
[20:35] <arduinoob> Why do I constantly get "held back packages"?
[20:36] <arduinoob> what is the usual reason for this?
[20:36] <arduinoob> conflicts?
[20:36] <llutz> arduinoob: packages it depends on aren't available yet
[20:38] <llutz> diverdude: man fdupes (-H would force your idea)
[20:38] <arduinoob> so what, it's like a trailer?
[20:38] <adamcunnington> what is ubuntu's built in ability to edit id3 tags like?
[20:39] <arduinoob> coming soon to a distribution near you.
[20:39] <llutz> adamcunnington: kid3, easytag, id3v2, lots of tools
[20:39] <adamcunnington> llutz: ok cool
[20:39] <adamcunnington> Can someone explain the difference between adding a PPA via cli and adding a source via software sources?
[20:40] <diverdude> llutz: thanks for your help :)))  managed to solve my problem weee ehehe
[20:40] <angela_21> hola
[20:40] <rww> adamcunnington: there isn't one, adding a PPA either way will do the same thing on the backend
[20:41] <adamcunnington> rww: great thanks
[20:41] <angela_21> is this the right place to ask about a strange terminal experience?
[20:41] <bekks> bright white light? ;)
[20:41] <angela_21> I am new to bash terminal
[20:41] <bekks> angela_21: Just ask right away :)
[20:42] <angela_21> when I open a new terminal I can see my computer name on the left side
[20:42] <angela_21> if I login to my work's vpn sometimes it shows a strange name instead
[20:42] <angela_21> what does this mean?
[20:42] <bekks> angela_21: The name of your computer as set/seen by the VPN.
[20:43] <angela_21> my computer name is mbp
[20:43] <angela_21> but I see something like: phl-kolodnerlxp
[20:43] <bekks> angela_21: And whats the DNS name of the IP given by the VPN?
[20:44] <angela_21> phl-kolodnerlxp
[20:44] <angela_21> so is that what is happening? the vpn re-assigns me a new name?
[20:45] <bekks> angela_21: Yeah, most likely.
[20:45] <angela_21> weird thing is sometimes even when connected to the vpn I see my original computer name, it is not consistent. I was hoping you would say someone is hacking your computer
[20:45] <angela_21> not that I want to
[20:46] <bekks> angela_21: You can just ask your VPN admin if he can a) make that happen consistently, or b) stop renaming your computer :)
[20:47] <garylabronz> hey, i want to source my .bashrc in a script. but it doesnt change the current session in the terminal, how do i source inside a script for the current session?
[20:47] <llutz> garylabronz: . filetosource
[20:47] <bekks> garylabronz: ". ~/.bashrc"
[20:47] <angela_21> any emacs users here?
[20:47] <angela_21> thank bekks by the way
[20:47] <angela_21> @bekks thank you
[20:47] <bekks> angela_21: you're welcome :)
[20:48] <garylabronz> berks: no luck
[20:48] <garylabronz> llutz: no luck either
[20:48] <sokruosov> angela_21: just ask it
[20:48] <garylabronz> . ~/.bashrc
[20:48] <garylabronz> is what im calling in the script
[20:48] <garylabronz> i was ding it with source ~/.bashrc first
[20:48] <garylabronz> if i run source .bashrc from the command it works fine
[20:48] <oscalation> where are the instructions to install ubuntumobile
[20:49] <angela_21> are there any games for emacs that allow you to learn key bindings?
[20:50] <llutz> garylabronz: "source file" should do too, are you sure your script runs with bash?
[20:50] <garylabronz> yeah i curl the script and pipe to bash
[20:50] <bodie_> my favorite word game is google.com
[20:50] <heath> how would you change super-w to show all the windows open?
[20:50] <garylabronz> url | bash
[20:51] <heath> I'm on a macbook and i want to use the special key meant for this
[20:51] <garylabronz> i check if .bashrc exists, it does and i run source. but nothing changes in the session. loging out and back in does it correctly. or just manually running source .bashrc
[20:52] <llutz> garylabronz: your script runs in a sub-shell, exiting and returning to the original shell with old env?
[20:52] <garylabronz> yeah how do i make it run in currennt shell ?
[20:53] <garylabronz> im also using bash 3, if that changes anything? with centos5
[20:53] <llutz> you shouldn't have said that ...
[20:53] <bekks> garylabronz: So you dont use Ubuntu then?
[20:53] <garylabronz> bekks: i have ubuntu 12 running on my machine, then servers on centos 5/6
[20:53] <oscalation> whats the room for 14.04?
[20:53] <oscalation> ubuntu-dev ?
[20:54] <bekks> oscalation: #ubuntu+1
[20:54] <llutz>  oscalation  #ubuntu+a
[20:54] <llutz>  oscalation  #ubuntu+1 sry
[20:54] <oscalation> np ty
[20:58] <Turingi> Trusty Targ 14.04, has anyone else had graphical glitches with the liveDVD with the latest iso build?
[20:59] <xangua> Turingi: #ubuntu+1
[21:01] <Corvette> I have some questions about the audio on my laptop. For some reason the built in audio card is no longer being recognized by Ubuntu, likely after an update that broke it. How do I fix it? Also I have a Bluetooth headset that works with the laptop, and with Ubuntu, but Ubuntu only supports the 'Telephony Duplex' profile which sounds no better than a bad phonecall. How do I enable A2DP?
[21:04] <sudormrf> llutz: if you are still around.  fail2ban is working, but now I would like to make a tweak.  I don't want these IPs to be able to reconnect.  the default behavior in fail2ban is a temporary ban.  I want it to be permanent.  any thoughts?
[21:05] <geekgm> hi. Does anyone here use Handbrake for encoding videos?
[21:06] <heath> ubottu: shortcut
[21:06] <llutz> sudormrf: well... http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/MANUAL_0_8  idk, i haven't really used that
[21:06] <sudormrf> thanks
[21:09] <geekgm> Handbrake Subtitles Hard Burn they are always in black. How do I get Handbrake to burn them in white color?
[21:13] <justaguy> i followed https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-swap-on-ubuntu-12-04 , but now i get swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Operation not permitted
[21:13] <justaguy> when doing sudo swapon /swapfile
[21:14] <usr13> justaguy: so, you don't use a swap partition? (only a swap file?)
[21:14] <llutz> justaguy: sure you did "sudo mkswap /swapfile" before?
[21:15] <justaguy> usr13: my vps had no swap
[21:15] <usr13> justaguy: oh, ok
[21:15] <justaguy> i did free -m and it showed me NONE AVIABLE NONE USED
[21:16] <llutz> justaguy: some vps won't allow to add any swap
[21:16] <justaguy> usr13: well running stuff with sudo and then getting permission denied
[21:16] <justaguy> is weird
[21:16] <usr13> justaguy: Yea it is.
[21:16] <llutz> justaguy: you don#t get " permission denied", yo get "Operation not permitted" you said
[21:17] <justaguy> ow ye right
[21:17] <llutz> justaguy: openVZ vps? you lose
[21:17] <justaguy> llutz: yes
[21:18] <llutz> justaguy: http://forums.vpslink.com/linux/621-swap-space.html#post3915
[21:19] <llutz> justaguy: no idea if this really helps, maybe ... http://linux-problem-solver.blogspot.de/2013/08/create-fake-swap-in-openvz-vps-if-you-get-swapon-failed-operation-not-permitted-error.html
[21:22] <usr13> justaguy: That second link llutz gave you looks interesting.  Let us know if it works.
[21:24] <llutz> usr13: sure it works, it will _report_ you having some swap ...
[21:25] <Corvette> Guys my pulseaudio isn't working can someone help? I'm on 12.04 and the pulse server won''t start
[21:28] <StoneCypherW> how hard is it for me to get something out of saucy's apt repos if i'm still on quantal and practically can't upgrade?
[21:28] <StoneCypherW> it's just gettext, and i could probably build from source, but i'd much rather have it package managed if that's reasonable
[21:29] <GIUANN>  hiii!
[21:30] <adamcunnington> What would be the best way to move files (read as documents) between ubuntu and windows7 inside virtualbox. Ubuntu one?
[21:31] <Corvette> adamcunnington which is the host and which is the guest
[21:31] <usr13> adamcunnington: You have guest-additions installed?
[21:31] <llutz> adamcunnington: shared-folders
[21:31] <adamcunnington> usr13: what does that mean?
[21:31] <usr13> adamcunnington: Ubuntu is the host, Right?
[21:31] <adamcunnington> Corvette: win7 guest inside virtualbox
[21:31] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea
[21:32] <Corvette> Just select a folder to be shared with your guest.
[21:32] <StoneCypherW> adamcunnington: just set up a shared folder
[21:32] <StoneCypherW> adamcunnington: you can do that from vboxmanage in the settings for the individual vm under filesystem
[21:32] <adamcunnington> StoneCypherW: ok great, will read up on those, didn't realise that was a functionality of virtualbox, thanks
[21:32] <StoneCypherW> it is
[21:32] <JasonO> Hi
[21:32] <adamcunnington> great, will take a look, cheers
[21:32] <StoneCypherW> if that doesn't work for you for some reason, there's always nfs (i would not recommend it)
[21:33] <llutz> windows 7 cannot handle nfs ootb
[21:33] <StoneCypherW> anyone on gettext and getting stuff from newer apt?  i'm not a ubuntu guy.  i know how to do this on other distros under other package managers.
[21:33] <StoneCypherW> llutz: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc754350.aspx
[21:34] <JasonO> I'm having trouble updating packages and nothing will work not even apt-get clean I receive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7035237/
[21:34] <SupaYoshi> does anyone have an idea how to setup tightvnc with elementary os?
[21:34] <llutz> StoneCypherW: needs client for nfs, thus "not ootb"
[21:35] <StoneCypherW> llutz: it's part of the win7 distro, and is inside the box.
[21:35] <JasonO> I'm on Saucy
[21:35] <usr13> adamcunnington: Did you isntall  virtualbox-guest-additions.iso ?
[21:35] <Corvette> So wait Ubuntu 12.10+ don't support compositing?
[21:35] <adamcunnington> usr13: i've just reinstalled ubuntu so not installed anything yet. Is that separate to virtualbox itself?
[21:36] <usr13> adamcunnington: You have yet to install virtualbox?
[21:36] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea
[21:36] <usr13> adamcunnington: Ok, then you should also install virtualbox-guest-additions.iso
[21:36] <adamcunnington> usr13: aswell as? i guess i can do that during install
[21:38] <JasonO> Here's an updated output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7035263/
[21:40] <usr13> adamcunnington: It is a separate package, see https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[21:40] <adamcunnington> usr13: thanks
[21:40] <JasonO> hipitihop, I'm having trouble updating packages on 13.10 and nothing will work not even apt-get clean I receive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7035263/
[21:40] <ibqn> is it possible to have gnome-3.10 with ubuntu 12.04 ? does a gnome3 ppa provide that? (not on ubuntu, right now)
[21:40] <usr13> NP
[21:40] <JasonO> oops
[21:40] <adamcunnington> usr13: is there a ctrl + alt +del version for ubuntu?! It's crashed on me, won't let me open 2 open programs
[21:40] <JasonO> meant "Hi" not hipi...
[21:41] <adamcunnington> nevermind, responding now
[21:41] <usr13> adamcunnington: Ctrl-ALt-Backspace will restart the X server (the GUI).
[21:41] <tmmunq> linux doesnt crash
[21:41] <usr13> adamcunnington: But I'm not sure what has "crashed" on you.... Tell us what happened.
[21:41] <adamcunnington> usr13: great, that's useful - will stuff running within it restart too or is purely refreshing the interface?
[21:42] <Pessimist> adamcunnington, afaik ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled by default on ubuntu 12.04+. Google to find out how to enable
[21:42] <adamcunnington> usr13: basically software centre and 'information available with the software sources icon' wouldn't open
[21:42] <adamcunnington> they werne't open in any of my workspaces but they were running in the background but i was unable to click into them / see them
[21:42] <usr13> adamcunnington: I won't advise restarting the X server with the Software Centre running.
[21:42] <Pessimist> adamcunnington, the graphical stack will kill itself and display manager will pop up (lightdm) -- yes, it will every program you are running (except the ones in the background, *not* X programs)
[21:42] <adamcunnington> Pessimist: ok thanks, will do
[21:43] <usr13> adamcunnington: Alt-Tab  will switch from one window to another
[21:44] <usr13> adamcunnington: What did you install?  Ubuntu-Desktop 12.04.4 64Bit?
[21:44] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea
[21:44] <usr13> adamcunnington: I would first do updates. Okay?
[21:44] <adamcunnington> usr13: i know the shortcuts, they were just breaking
[21:44] <adamcunnington> usr13: ok will update
[21:45] <usr13> adamcunnington: Not really sure what is breaking but.
[21:45] <adamcunnington> usr13: never mind, it's fine now
[21:45] <usr13> adamcunnington: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   #First
[21:45] <JasonO> -_-
[21:45] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea just done
[21:45] <usr13> adamcunnington: If it tells you to reboot, do it.
[21:45] <adamcunnington> how do i quit terminal btw with keyboard shortcut
[21:45] <JasonO> One-thousand-six-hundred-fourteen and not one
[21:45] <JasonO> Incredible
[21:46] <usr13> adamcunnington: exit
[21:46] <adamcunnington> ah
[21:46] <adamcunnington> tried quit, close, all sorts :P
[21:46] <JasonO> adamcunnington: With shortcut = ctrl+shift+q
[21:46] <adamcunnington> JasonO: Alt+F4 feels quicker
[21:47] <adamcunnington> usr13: so, the problem is kind of still there. There is an icon on my launcher that labels "Information available" when I hover over but clicking it does nothing. Right click quit also does nothing and it's not active in any of my workspaces. If i ctrl + shift + tab to it, it doesn't open
[21:47] <adamcunnington> usr13: can i kill it from cli??
[21:47] <usr13> adamcunnington: Oh yea, as Jason points out, Ctrl-Shift-q  is the "keyboard-shortcut" or "hotkey" to close a terminal.
[21:47] <adamcunnington> usr13: so is alt+f4
[21:48] <llutz> StoneCyp1erW: sry i stand corrected, comes indeed with win7, is just not activated by default.
[21:48] <usr13> adamcunnington: correct  Yea Alt-F4 is cheaper
[21:49]  * JasonO fixed it himself
[21:49] <adamcunnington> usr13: did you read my problem above??
[21:49] <adamcunnington> oops, didn't mean to double Q. damn these black cherry mx switches, feel nice though
[21:49] <allyai> im having a problem booting
[21:49] <adamcunnington> is it recommended to install git with apt-get?
[21:50] <usr13> adamcunnington: Yes
[21:50] <usr13> adamcunnington: ... as opposed to _____________ ?
[21:51] <adamcunnington> usr13: ppas or whatever else
[21:51] <usr13> adamcunnington: You don't need a ppa for git
[21:51] <usr13> adamcunnington: You only need ppa for something that is not avaiable in the normal repos
[21:51] <adamcunnington> usr13: or something that you want a more frequent update for
[21:52] <allyai> im running ubuntu on one drive and windows 7 on another. im trying to check the contents on a third drive, but only have two sata ports. i unplugged the windows drive and plugged in the third drive and ubuntu wont boot. all i get is a black screen with a flashing _
[21:52] <usr13> !packages | adamcunnington
[21:52] <ikonia> adamcunnington: if you're asking "is it recommended...." you probably don't want to use a PPA for anything
[21:52] <allyai> and when i try the other way, booting the windows drive with the third drive in as well, without the ubuntu drive, i get an error and it wont boot
[21:52] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea i know that but 6 monthly updates just aren't often enough for some programs, surely that's understandable
[21:53] <usr13> adamcunnington: As ikonia points, ppa's are last resort
[21:53] <adamcunnington> how about downloading .deb files that open with software centre
[21:53] <adamcunnington> they then become managed in the same way as official stuff right? update-able etc. (providing the .deb provides a source ofc)
[21:53] <usr13> adamcunnington: "6 monthyl updates"?  What?
[21:53] <allyai> i can only boot either OS when both windows drive and ubuntu drive are plugged in
[21:53] <bekks> adamcunnington: They might break your box.
[21:54] <bekks> adamcunnington: And 12.04 and 14.04 will receive updates and security fixes for 5 years each.
[21:54] <adamcunnington> usr13: or monthly - but even still ubuntu just has a lot of old stuff
[21:54] <usr13> adamcunnington: Using the package manager or apt-get is best, (do you see what ubottu just told you?)
[21:54] <bekks> adamcunnington: Is that updated often enough? :)
[21:54] <adamcunnington> bekks: for example, nodejs very very popular and ubuntu packs an ancient version of 0.6
[21:54] <usr13> !lts | adamcunnington
[21:54] <adamcunnington> bekks: when 0.10 is latest stable release
[21:54] <allyai> any idea?
[21:55] <adamcunnington> usr13: yes i know that but it doesn't seem to be in line with rhe fact that it ships lots of out of date software
[21:55] <ibqn> is it possible to have gnome-3.10 with ubuntu 12.04 ? does a gnome3 ppa provide that? (not on ubuntu, right now)
[21:55] <usr13> adamcunnington: Next release of LTS is 14.04 (pretty soon).
[21:55] <adamcunnington> usr13: sure but can you explain why nodejs 0.6 is packaged?
[21:55] <usr13> adamcunnington: As opposed to _____________ ?
[21:56] <adamcunnington> as opposed to 0.10
[21:56] <adamcunnington> considerably later
[21:56] <Humbedooh> how many years later?
[21:56] <adamcunnington> Humbedooh: how many YEARS?!?!
[21:56] <Humbedooh> yes :)
[21:56] <adamcunnington> Humbedooh: you don't consider months as out of date.
[21:57] <Humbedooh> adamcunnington: it's not about what I consider :)
[21:57] <Humbedooh> just an observation that packages can take a looong time to surface on ubuntu
[21:57] <adamcunnington> Humbedooh: of course it is - you were the one who asked the question
[21:57] <adamcunnington> Humbedooh: exactly, that's the entire observation i am making *palm face*
[21:57] <usr13> adamcunnington: does version 0.10 have features that you need?
[21:58] <adamcunnington> I'm learning fast that PPAs are a last resort but that's all very well given that ubuntu packages very outdated stuff
[21:58] <adamcunnington> if it was up to date every month, that would be fine but it's lagging behind by as you put it, years
[22:00] <allyai> i get this:
[22:00] <allyai> http://imgur.com/cInP4tF
[22:00] <Humbedooh> like many other projects, I'm sure node.js was subject to the feature freeze that happens when a new distro is rolled out
[22:00] <allyai> when i try to boot windows without my drive with ubuntu plugged in
[22:01] <Humbedooh> adamcunnington: in my experience, a 12-18 month wait isn't unheard of with ubuntu
[22:01] <adamcunnington> Humbedooh: wow
[22:02] <Humbedooh> especially if the new stuff breaks backwards compatibility
[22:02] <llutz> allyai: grub needs the grub-files on your ubuntu-disk
[22:02] <usr13> adamcunnington: I guess you should have downloaded / installed 14.04
[22:02] <llutz> allyai: no ubuntu-disk -> no bootmanager
[22:03] <ikonia> adamcunnington: what is the problem with the versions you have currently from ubuntu
[22:04] <wxl> i asked before about an avahi problem: computer 1 (lenovo g700), like computer 2 (old hp pavilion dv500z) and computer 3 (raspberri pi running rasbian), all run avahi. using 2 or 3, i can connect to 1's hostname.local. they can connect to each other, too. 1, however, cannot connect to the others. from 1, avahi-browse shows the other computers and avahi-resolve gives the right ip, but a ping to hostname.local does not. connecting by ip works fine. what's amiss he
[22:04] <adamcunnington> ikonia: other than that they're out of date you mean?
[22:04] <usr13> adamcunnington: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:04] <ikonia> adamcunnington: they are not out of date
[22:04] <ikonia> adamcunnington: what is the actual problem with them not being the bleeding edge version
[22:04] <marlon> BUENAS TARDES
[22:05] <usr13> adamcunnington: You have yet to answer my question.
[22:05] <adamcunnington> ikonia: that bit is a problem to me. I like to me at the front of the technology adoption curve
[22:05] <usr13> adamcunnington: does version 0.10 have features that you need?
[22:05] <marlon> busco ayuda para activar la camara web de mi vit 2400
[22:05] <adamcunnington> usr13: yes
[22:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: what is missing from the versions you currently have
[22:05] <adamcunnington> ikonia: want an itemised list by program?
[22:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: core functionality would be useful, yes
[22:05] <usr13> adamcunnington: Ok, then you can probably just install the latest version.  Just compile from source.
[22:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: what's the core functionality that missing
[22:06] <adamcunnington> i'm not going to type out a list of functions i'd like from newer version stuff that isn't in the ubuntu repository
[22:06] <adamcunnington> have you heard of the technology curve?
[22:06] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you're just saying buzz words
[22:06] <marlon> alguien en español?????
[22:06] <usr13> !build-essential |  adamcunnington
[22:06] <ikonia> adamcunnington: if you want the later version there must be 1 or 2 core functionality items that you want that are not in the version you have
[22:06] <adamcunnington> there are certain software that i simply like to be at the front for - such as google chrome, i work very closely with google in my day job and i like to be at the front edge of features
[22:06] <ikonia> sorry that's just nonsense buzz words
[22:07] <adamcunnington> usr13: how is building from source (which you'd have to do manually everytime a new release is rolled out, right?) better than using a PPA where someone is doing that for you
[22:07] <ikonia> you're chasing version numbers, not functionality
[22:07] <adamcunnington> ikonia: that's not nonsense buzzwords at all, i blog about some things which require i have the very latest glance on certain software
[22:07] <usr13> adamcunnington: I didn't say it was better
[22:07] <ikonia> sorry, don't buy it, good luck
[22:07] <adamcunnington> ikonia: you sound like you've been indoctrinated by 12-18 month updates somehow being a fantastic idea
[22:08] <usr13> adamcunnington: Just showing you an alternative.  (It is up to *you*.)
[22:08] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I have no idea wha tyou just said as it made no sense
[22:08] <dave_> just installed 14.04 love it
[22:08] <ikonia> dave_: the guys in #ubuntu+1 would probably appreciate your views/dicussion
[22:08] <Pici> adamcunnington: Ubuntu is not a rolling release, so you aren't going to see newer version of package is the repos, period.
[22:08] <adamcunnington> ikonia: it made perfect sense. I blog about things which require i have a very recent view on certain things (predominantly google products). Imagine blogging about an update that has been around for 12 months
[22:08] <usr13> dave_: So tell adamcunnington
[22:09] <ikonia> adamcunnington: don't blog about it then.....
[22:09] <adamcunnington> Pici: yea, i'm fine with that - i'm just confused as to what the argument is for that being a good thing - as a standalone fact and "deal with it, it's the way it is", that's fine
[22:09] <adamcunnington> ikonia: well, obviously the higher priority thing would be to change tools, not change the end goal
[22:09] <exussum> Hey, Having troble with an SD card, it wont mount correctly, Output from dmesg http://pastebin.com/UPrhzTVG
[22:09] <usr13> adamcunnington: No one is asking you to "deal with it".
[22:09] <exussum> any suggestions ?
[22:09] <ikonia> adamcunnington: no, as that would introduce instability into a stable distro
[22:09] <adamcunnington> usr13: exactly - but that should be the advice
[22:09] <ikonia> adamcunnington: so putting bleeding edge tools onto a stable platform is not what people want, hence why it's not happening
[22:10] <adamcunnington> ikonia: again i'm not saying it needs to be different
[22:10] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i'm not challenging that, i think you've misunderstood my entire motive, i'm not complaining that it needs to be changed
[22:10] <ikonia> thats not how it reads, but fair enough,
[22:10] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I possibly have miss-understood
[22:10] <usr13> adamcunnington: advise is a relative term
[22:10] <adamcunnington> ikonia: my issue was with the 'therefore' logic used re. PPAs. They're seen as a last resort but that would only logically follow if in this context, the ubuntu repositories were somehow an alternative
[22:11] <ikonia> adamcunnington: they are an alternative
[22:11] <adamcunnington> which in many cases, sure they are - especially when the person involved doesn't need latest functionality
[22:11] <usr13> adamcunnington: Ok, I take it back.  PPA's are not a *last* *resort*.  It is *ok* to use a PPA.
[22:11] <ikonia> adamcunnington: PPA's are not valid for your needs anyway as they are an untrusted source, built by untrusted resources (or not) so blogging about how good they are from an untrusted build would be false information
[22:11] <adamcunnington> ikonia: but when they do, ubuntu does not offer an alternative, it offers a later version which in context of the same example wouldn't do and therefore, i don't see why ppas are regarded as a last resort
[22:12] <adamcunnington> ikonia: official google chrome updates (as an example) are only official when ubuntu repositories decide so?
[22:12] <ikonia> a later version built by an idiot - over a stable person built by a sane build process, would not offer good content for your blog
[22:12] <adamcunnington> ikonia: that doesn't make sense - they're official when google chrome developers decide so
[22:12] <ikonia> adamcunnington: the official google repo is has created unstable builds for the platforms due to the older dependencies or the forced pushing of updated dependencies
[22:12] <ikonia> eg: ubuntu don't update it for a reason - the dependencies maybe too old
[22:13] <ikonia> so again, not great content for a blog if that situation happens, as it does at certain times
[22:13] <Pici> adamcunnington: a PPA built by a representative of the project in question might provide what you are looking for... but it may also be unstable.
[22:14] <usr13> adamcunnington: When we give advise, it is just suggestions, it's not an official mandate.
[22:14] <adamcunnington> usr13: that's not how it comes across
[22:14] <adamcunnington> usr13: but fair enough
[22:14] <ikonia> adamcunnington: it's your box do what you want with it
[22:15] <adamcunnington> obviously i want to learn from you experts - just learning by challenging in this instance because that didn't make sense to me
[22:15] <adamcunnington> i guess i'm fine with the PPAs are a last resort due to unguaranteed stability but if you need bleeding edge stuff, then go ahead at your own risk
[22:15] <adamcunnington> i'm fine with that as a suggestion if that's an accurate summary?
[22:15] <ikonia> adamcunnington: if you're blogging about software, I'd expect you to understand it's interaction with the platform
[22:16] <Pici> adamcunnington: IMO, PPAs can be trusted, but only on a case by case basis.  And thats something that a casual user is probably not going to be able to figure out easily.
[22:16] <adamcunnington> ikonia: didn't say i was a good blogger ;) but i'm new to linux so the previous world was an entirely different one
[22:16] <adamcunnington> Pici: fair enough - how would you go about establishing that? just knowledge of community / what's going on etc.?
[22:17] <adamcunnington> Pici: the thing i think about most is what if the person dies! then the updates will stop... i downloaded synaptics for that reason (well, not that exact crude reason) so that i can keep an eye on latest updates to see the fequency of updates
[22:17] <Pici> adamcunnington: Pretty much. For example,  if the person who is running the PPA is also the debian maintainer, theres a high chance that it can be trusted.
[22:18] <Lee_Dunn> email me.. I like gay sex...    dunn1055@gmail.com
[22:18] <usr13> Pici: I don't think it's a big deal.  If you install an app and it doesn't perform as you wish, you can un-install it.  Right?
[22:18] <ikonia> Lee_Dunn: please don't spam that stuff here, this is your only warning
[22:18] <ikonia> !topic | Lee_Dunn
[22:18] <adamcunnington> Pici: yea makes sense
[22:19] <Pici> usr13: true, but it is a touchy subject when you start making assumptions for other people, which is why we generally warn people when suggesting PPAs.
[22:19] <ikonia> you can't just uninstall it
[22:19] <adamcunnington> how can i kill "Information available" that is in my launcher but when i click on it or right click quit nothing happens
[22:19] <ikonia> more so if it pulls in dependencies that conlict / break the core platform
[22:19] <usr13> adamcunnington: But many of us like to stay in the "rocking chair" of tried and proven software.  We call it "cutting-edge" rather than "bleeding-edge".
[22:19] <usr13> Pici: Agreed...
[22:20] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea i'm in that category for most things
[22:20] <glym> Всем привет! :-)
[22:20] <glym> hello all
[22:20] <adamcunnington> usr13: i was particularly surprised when wine was shipped so old though because that feels like something that ubuntu work really closely with and i'm sure there is a later, equally stable version that can be supported but perhaps that is just baseless subjective conjecture
[22:20] <usr13> adamcunnington: Well, to watch your comments, you look like youre more in the "bleeding-edge" camp.
[22:20] <adamcunnington> usr13: i said 'for most' software
[22:21] <ikonia> adamcunnington: why would ubuntu "work closey" with wine ?
[22:21] <adamcunnington> ikonia: just feels like a big thing - lots in official ubuntu docs about it / suggesting / pointing to it - but fair point
[22:21] <usr13> adamcunnington: But how old is "old"?  I have yet to see any dates discussed here.
[22:21] <ikonia> adamcunnington: wine is a dead technology that is not to be used as a "solution"
[22:21] <adamcunnington> usr13: 1450 years, roughly the age of treebeard
[22:21] <ikonia> adamcunnington: it's so far from a big deal it's untrue,
[22:21] <adamcunnington> ikonia: yea i found that out the hard way which led to me reinstalling ubuntu - it was terrible
[22:22] <adamcunnington> ok, moving on...
[22:22] <ikonia> this makes no sense, you know it's bad/it broke your system, but then you say ubuntu works close with it because it's a big thing ????
[22:22] <adamcunnington> i originally installed dropbox through the .deb file so i've just uninstalled that and now i'm wanting to install dropbox through the software centre but i'm getting an error; "Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[22:22] <usr13> adamcunnington: What was the adverage age of the software packages you were using last week?  What is the adverage age of the software packages you are using today?  (Make that comparison, Okay?)
[22:22] <adamcunnington> usr13: i get your point
[22:23] <adamcunnington> re. dropbox...
[22:23] <ikonia> you've possibly already messed up your dependencies using external debs/ppa's
[22:23] <usr13> adamcunnington: Yea, it is because you deviated outside of the package manager. (You would (in this case), have to uninstall the one you previously installed, before installing this one.)
[22:23] <adamcunnington> i have uninstalled it
[22:24] <adamcunnington> usr13: i have uninstalled it - do i need to reboot?
[22:25] <usr13> adamcunnington: As ikonia points out, what you see here is one of the drawbacks of *not* using the package management system to install authorized packages (specially built to be compatable with the Operating System you have installed, (tried and proven so-to-speak)
[22:25] <usr13> adamcunnington: No
[22:26] <adamcunnington> ah, i hadn't removed the software source, done that and installing ok now
[22:26] <usr13> adamcunnington: The only software package you need to reboot after installing is a new kernel.  All others will just be loaded up for you whenever you want.
[22:26] <adamcunnington> usr13: that's pretty cool, no more windows registry nonsense!
[22:26] <usr13> correct
[22:27] <adamcunnington> Guys, can someone help re. my information available question
[22:27] <ikonia> what question ?
[22:27] <adamcunnington> i need to kill that application, it's on  my launcher and it thinks it's opened but i can't access it
[22:27] <joel_> Hi: anyone have errors on starting xml editors in Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:27] <ikonia> what application ?
[22:27] <ikonia> joel_: what editor, what error
[22:28] <basketball> how do i set my pc up where when i press alt then a letter it types the spanish version of the letter
[22:28] <adamcunnington> ikonia: on my launcher, there is something with a generic software sources-type icon that when I hover over is labelled "Information Available" - it looks opened but it's not and i need to kill it
[22:28] <joel_>  XML copy editor. Program doesn't start  up.
[22:28] <usr13> ikonia: He's using unity and it is in the bar at the upper right?  (It may be telling him that he has upgraded certain packages or something like that.)  I am an xfce  user... idono
[22:28] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I have no idea what you're talking about, try taking a screen shot ?
[22:28] <jpoole> can I run aptitude update; aptitude install -y package in an upstart pre-start stanza?
[22:28] <adamcunnington> ikonia: brb let me install irssi and switch pcs
[22:28] <usr13> adamcunnington: When you click on it, doesn't it give you the information?
[22:29] <ikonia> jpoole: that seems like a very bad idea, but on paper, sure
[22:29] <adamcunnington> usr13: that's the whole point, it's not opebning, something has "crashed" so to speak
[22:29] <adamcunnington> usr13: it won't let me right click quit it either
[22:29] <usr13> !paste | adamcunnington
[22:29] <jpoole> ikonia i'm crazy like that
[22:29] <usr13> adamcunnington: Just ignore it.  (it is not important, it is just information).  But show us.
[22:30] <adamcunnington> usr13: it is, because it's blocking other installations finishing, i'll just reboot
[22:30] <adamcunnington> loggin out and in fixed it
[22:31] <usr13> adamcunnington: Well, I wish you could have showed us.
[22:32] <MAbeeTT> Hi! I am triyin to install client CRT self-signed certificates. I read /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian, but I got no information about user  installing crt files. Other than firefox, chromium and thunderbird, obviusly.
[22:32] <MAbeeTT> Where could I find the information I searching?  Thanks.
[22:33] <ac> ah awesome i'm going to steal this username quick
[22:33] <allyai> how do i fix that though? llutz
[22:35] <goodwin> what is this process doing? normal? /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/unity-lens-video/unity-lens-video
[22:36] <goodwin> and this? /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/unity-scope-video-remote/unity-scope-video-remote
[22:37] <funky> heya
[22:38] <adamcunnington> seems weird that ubuntu doesn't provide a stable version of opera? any particular reason for that?
[22:38] <funky> if I want to copy all files and dir recursively apart top dir into new dir so I cd in source dir and use cp -r /path to new dir?
[22:39] <funky> cp: missing destination file operand after
[22:39] <funky> whats that :D
[22:39] <MAbeeTT> goodwin: dpkg -S /usr/lib/unity-lens-video/unity-lens-video ; apt-cache show unity-lens-video
[22:39] <ikonia> adamcunnington: it's not open source
[22:39] <adamcunnington> ikonia: ah ok, fair enough
[22:39] <ikonia> adamcunnington: so is provided by the people who make it, as ubuntu can't build it
[22:39] <adamcunnington> ikonia: so is ppa my best route there?
[22:40]  * jpoole is away: (automatically dead ) [BX-MsgLog Off]
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[22:40] <ikonia> adamcunnington: with respect, I'd expect you to research the products you're asking about before making statements like "it's weird" - it's not wierd, it's the only option.
[22:40] <Rubas> is it possible to ssh a remote host behind a router?
[22:40] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I wouldn't use an opera PPA
[22:40] <MAbeeTT> funky: cp requires a second argument called destination.
[22:40] <esde> I'd like to move filetype .abc from all sub-directories inside /path/to/dir to /path/to/anotherdir. I tried mv /path/to/dir/*/*.flv /path/to/anotherdir but I get a no such file error. I assume because I can't use wildcard's that way... Any ideas?
[22:40] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i'm not really at a stage yet where i 'understand' the research or what i'm even searching for but i take your point, i'll withhold those sort of statements, admittedly groundless
[22:41] <adamcunnington> ikonia: how come? (not challenging, just interested by your conclusion, don't know what factors involved in your thinking etc.) - what would you suggest as the best option?
[22:41] <funky> so cd into source dir and cp *.* -r /path to target?
[22:42] <ikonia> adamcunnington: because it's a generic binary set, built for a generic platform, which means problems, opera don't build for specific versions so I don't trust it's stability or effects on the platform
[22:42] <esde> Ah, thank you funky !!
[22:42] <adamcunnington> ikonia: ok, well i'm going to be running virtualbox anyway for a whole loads of window apps, would it be a better option to just run opera in there? i only use it for testing web apps and i'm using virtualbox for ie anyway
[22:42]  * esde passes funky a virtual beer
[22:42] <funky> :)
[22:42] <funky> hehe
[22:42] <ikonia> adamcunnington: seems more reasonable
[22:42] <adamcunnington> ikonia: great thanks
[22:43] <usr13> adamcunnington: Do you really need opra?
[22:43] <adamcunnington> usr13: web testing
[22:43] <usr13> adamcunnington: Oh, ok.
[22:43] <esde> cp: cannot stat ‘*.*’: No such file or directory
[22:44] <pabl8_> l
[22:44] <esde> oooh syntax
[22:44] <adamcunnington> usr13: other than that, certainly not! chromium and firefox are really nice and run amazingly in ubuntu, never seen anything so fast tbh
[22:44] <funky> use *
[22:44] <esde> nope cp -r same thing
[22:44] <esde> ok
[22:44] <funky> I was answerin to my own question
[22:44] <SergeyServer> asd
[22:44] <funky> * seems to work  as I tried it now
[22:44] <funky> :D
[22:44] <esde> it does, thanks again!!
[22:45] <usr13> adamcunnington: You can use the PPA or http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux-x86-64&ver=12.16&local=y
[22:45] <funky> like mv * -r /path to new dir :D
[22:45] <adamcunnington> usr13: think i'm going to just run it within virtualbox along with ie and other apps
[22:45] <funky> mv all files and dir recursively to new dir
[22:45] <adamcunnington> usr13: thanks though
[22:45] <usr13> adamcunnington: Okeydokey.
[22:45] <SergeyServer> how I login to my acc lol
[22:46] <usr13> adamcunnington: Opera is ok (in Linux), I've used it before, but have uninstalled it.(I install and uninstall stuff all the time).
[22:46] <SergeyServer> can someone tell me the command to login to your register account on IRC please
[22:47] <SergeyServer> registered account*
[22:47] <usr13> SergeyServer: /msg nickserve identify passowrd-here
[22:47] <usr13> SergeyServer: (after /nick registered-nick )
[22:47] <SergeyServer> asd
[22:47] <SergeyServer> hm
[22:48] <adamcunnington> anyone here use sublime?
[22:48] <adamcunnington> best off just downloading the .deb for that?
[22:49] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you're not really grasping the risks you're being advised about
[22:49] <SergeyServer> nick serve identify
[22:49] <SergeyServer> can you write example please
[22:49] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i am but what is my alternative here?
[22:49] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you can't ask about every application as it's down to you do understand the risks
[22:49] <khushildep> Anyone know where I can find the latest 3.1 or 3.2 of GNU TLS for Ubuntu Precise at all please?
[22:50] <adamcunnington> ikonia: apologies but i'm in a learning stage. There are lots and lots and lots of things totally new to me and the way ubuntu or linux as a wider platform handles apps is a whole new universe
[22:50] <SergeyServer> [MYSQL] error --- Table 'hostbots.games' doesn't exist
[22:50] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i understand the risk but i pay for sublime and it's a fantastic editor
[22:50] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I get that - but if you're in the learning phase, then try to pay attention to the info you are being given and take it in, rather than just carrying on ignoring the information
[22:50] <ikonia> adamcunnington: ok, so if you understand the risk, why are you asking what to do ?
[22:51] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i'm by no means ignoring it but sublime is not in the repository
[22:51] <ikonia> adamcunnington: ok, but you said you understand the risks - you understand it's closed source.....what do you want ?
[22:51] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i was asking what others have done - i understand the risks, not the full multitude of avenues as to how i may obtain the software alternately
[22:51] <ikonia> adamcunnington: how ? apply thought - it's CLOSED SOURCE that means only the vendor can provide it
[22:52] <KeithLG_> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=h440
[22:52] <KeithLG_> black or white
[22:52] <ikonia> KeithLG_: what ?
[22:52] <KeithLG_> the link I posted
[22:52] <ikonia> KeithLG_: what about it ?
[22:52] <KeithLG_> gives you a link to, two cases
[22:52] <usr13> adamcunnington: You are about to install Win7 in virtualbox anyway.  Right?
[22:52] <ikonia> KeithLG_: how does it have anything to do with #ubuntu ?
[22:52] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea
[22:52] <usr13> Ok
[22:53] <KeithLG_> which one would you prefer
[22:53] <KeithLG_> ikonia; I need opinions, and there is alot of people here, so. :D
[22:53] <ikonia> KeithLG_: not really something this channel deals with, try #web or #defocus
[22:53] <adamcunnington> usr13: need sublime in linux though because it will interact with web apps such as grunt and yeoman which are within an ubuntu environment
[22:53] <belalsherif> hello
[22:53] <usr13> adamcunnington: Oh, ok.... so install it.
[22:53] <belalsherif> anyone can help me here ?
[22:53] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea i guess that's the risk i take
[22:54] <ikonia> adamcunnington: http://www.sublimetext.com/2 official web page - official information
[22:54] <adamcunnington> usr13: i guess i have to hope the .deb includes a source so that i can at least uninstall it through the package manager thoroughly and without issue
[22:54] <belalsherif> i don't know anything in linux
[22:54] <ikonia> adamcunnington: again, basic research, understanding - then query anything you're uncertain with
[22:54] <Rubas> Should I install LAMP with root or not root?
[22:54] <belalsherif> i'm new here in linux
[22:54] <usr13> adamcunnington: You do know, however, that after you get Win7 installed in virtualbox, you will be able to run both OSs at the same time, you can switch back and forth at will.  Right?
[22:54] <ikonia> !lamp | Rubas
[22:55] <Bashing-om> !ask | belalsherif
[22:55] <adamcunnington> usr13: yea i know that, it's more the real time interaction that i won't be able to do and i need that communication between sublime and grunt
[22:55] <usr13> ok
[22:55] <Rubas> ikonia: my question is should I root into my server, or make a user with sudo access and install LAMP?
[22:55] <ikonia> Rubas: are you using ubuntu
[22:55] <Rubas> ikonia: yes
[22:56] <nearst> hello
[22:56] <adamcunnington> usr13: when building from source (tar.bz2 in this case), what does the uninstall process look like
[22:56] <ikonia> Rubas: right, so then a.) root user is not avilable in ubuntu b.) sudo access is already setup
[22:56] <usr13> Rubas: You don't already have a  user account?
[22:56] <ikonia> !sudo | Rubas
[22:56] <Rubas> ikonia, usr13: I have a server edition with a option to enter user and enter root
[22:56] <usr13> adamcunnington: configure, make, sudo make install
[22:56] <ikonia> Rubas: the server version works the same
[22:57] <adamcunnington> usr13: uninstall*
[22:57] <ikonia> usr13: that is TERRIBLE advise, please think about what you are saying to people
[22:57] <belalsherif> how to install nvidia driver ?
[22:57] <Rubas> ikonia: so I should install it thorugh a user yes?
[22:57] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you really shouldn't be compiling software unless you fully understand what's happening
[22:57] <KeithLG> belalsherif; sudo apt-get install nvidia?
[22:57] <usr13> adamcunnington: But 3 different processes.  (And yes, many of them have an uninstall script too, not all but most probably).
[22:57] <ikonia> Rubas: re-read what I said - the ROOT ACCOUNT is not available in ubuntu
[22:57] <KeithLG> and nvidia-utils If I remember lol
[22:58] <Rubas> ikonia: why can I do this: ssh root@192.168.0.100 - and get in?
[22:58] <usr13> adamcunnington: ... that is, if you keep the source directory.
[22:58] <ikonia> Rubas: you have made a mistake setting up your system then,
[22:58] <adamcunnington> ikonia: well, it's the only way of me getting sublime and i know it has a lot of loyal users who trust it - their authority is good enough for me
[22:58] <adamcunnington> usr13: what do you mean by the keep the source directory
[22:58] <ikonia> Rubas: the bottom line is ubuntu and the sudo model is not
[22:58] <ikonia> adamcunnington: not it is not!!!!
[22:58] <ikonia> adamcunnington: subline is CLOSED SOURCE
[22:58] <Bashing-om> belalsherif: If you must !, activate the "Additional Drivers" utility and try that option.
[22:58] <Rubas> ok ikonia i'll just disable root, and install it through a user
[22:59] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i don't understand you - what are you disagreeing with
[22:59] <usr13> ikonia: What?  It is his system, he can do with it what he wants to. (He simply asked a question, I answered).
[22:59] <ikonia> usr13: give "good advice"
[22:59] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you don't compile submlime
[22:59] <adamcunnington> ikonia: ok, what do i do with the .tar.bz2?
[22:59] <ikonia> adamcunnington: again RESEARCH THE BASICS
[23:00] <usr13> adamcunnington: As ikonia points out, it is always better to use the package management system.
[23:00] <adamcunnington> usr13: it's not in the package management system
[23:00] <adamcunnington> ikonia: but i don't know what THE BASICS are
[23:00] <ikonia> adamcunnington: thats the bit where "research" is the key
[23:00] <adamcunnington> ikonia: these are unknown unknowns
[23:00] <ikonia> adamcunnington: making random assumptions
[23:00] <adamcunnington> ikonia: how can you research what you don't research
[23:00] <ikonia> adamcunnington: they are not - I linked you to the sublime website that explains it
[23:00] <adamcunnington> ikonia: no, i'm making deductions based off what i know and i don't know what i don't know
[23:01] <ikonia> adamcunnington: sorry - this is just sloppy
[23:01] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you want to install a product, but you've not visited the website
[23:01] <adamcunnington> ikonia: you're expectations are unbelievable
[23:01] <adamcunnington> ikonia: I'M ON THE WEBSITE
[23:01] <SergeyServer> ERROR 1113 (42000): A table must have at least 1 column
[23:01] <basketball> ! lol
[23:01] <adamcunnington> ikonia: HOW ELSE DO YOU THINK I GOT THE .TAR.BZ2 FILE
[23:01] <ikonia> adamcunnington: right, so what does it tell you to do
[23:01] <rocktop> anyone know what is the best torrent server for ubuntu (CLI) ?
[23:01] <adamcunnington> ikonia: there is a link to the file which i click and it downloads, all other information on that page is a changelog. do you want a screenshot?
[23:01] <ikonia> adamcunnington: sorry, this is just pointless if you're not prepared to do any research and just keep asking "how how how" you'll never grasp the basics
[23:02] <usr13> adamcunnington: Why not use the ppa?
[23:02] <rocktop> I would like to server my data via torrent , I need the best torrent server
[23:02] <adamcunnington> usr13: ikonia said there was no PPA as it was closed source, said i could only get it from the vendor
[23:02] <adamcunnington> ikonia: you're the one not listening
[23:02] <adamcunnington> ikonia: do you understand the concept of unknown unknowns?
[23:02] <ikonia> adamcunnington: fully yes
[23:02] <adamcunnington> ikonia: or just communicating with other human beings
[23:03] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I fully understand that - however I'm not the one just making random stuff up like "how do I compile it" without doing any research at all
[23:03] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i asked how to install it, not comppile
[23:03] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you asked how to compile it
[23:03] <adamcunnington> ikonia: actually, i didn't even ask that, i asked what the uninstall process looks like
[23:03] <ikonia> adamcunnington: you said you wanted to compile it as it's the only way to get it
[23:04] <adamcunnington> ikonia: they were your words
[23:04] <ikonia> 22:56 < adamcunnington> usr13: when building from source (tar.bz2 in this case), what does the uninstall process look like
[23:04] <ikonia> adamcunnington: thats you asking how to build it from source
[23:04] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i asked how i should best get it, you then had a rant about me not listening (purely because i didn't understand what you did) and then you said it's CLOSED VENDOR, you used a lot of caps and said there were no alternative ways
[23:04] <ikonia> 22:56 < adamcunnington> usr13: when building from source (tar.bz2 in this case), what does the uninstall process look like
[23:04] <ikonia> adamcunnington: thats you asking "how to build it from source" not how to get it
[23:04] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i don't know all this terminology, you take it for granted and then come across unthinkably arrogant because you have relatively supreme knowledge
[23:04] <ikonia> adamcunnington: please stop trying to deflect it
[23:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: http://sublime-text-unofficial-documentation.readthedocs.org/en/sublime-text-2/getting_started/install.html#linux
[23:05] <adamcunnington> ikonia: you don't even realise the pedanticness in your comments
[23:05] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i have no idea in the difference between building and compiling and barely understand the difference between compiling and installing
[23:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I found that installation instructions on the website....that I linked you to
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Isnt there a PPA for Sublime?
[23:05] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i can't 'research' that because i was unaware of the difference, that is what an unknown unknown is. Don't be so ignorant.
[23:05] <adamcunnington> ikonia: your link is to the download page
[23:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: reading the website and looking for "installtion instructions" on the official website is hadly something you research
[23:05] <ikonia> adamcunnington: yes, you READ the website
[23:06] <ikonia> adamcunnington: eg: look for installation instructions on the official website
[23:06] <ikonia> that is basic usage of software you want to use if you don't know anything about it
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:06] <adamcunnington> ikonia: ok thanks. Can i ask you don't talk to me again please? You're casting a terrible perception in my mind of the ubuntu comunity
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: press CTRL+ALT+T and run the command. The output is a single line so is ok to paste here
[23:07] <ikonia> adamcunnington: no problem at all, you're not creating a great perception of someone who claims to be a bleeding edge software user if you are unable to lookup install instructions from an official website
[23:08] <earthian> Hello, Do you know how to disable the LSHIFT+RSHIFT keyboard layout switching in Gnome 3? (Latest)
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: copy and paste to terminal is no different to a text editor
[23:09] <adamcunnington> ActionParsnip: yea, sorry was just doing it; UBuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[23:09] <adamcunnington> on my laptop typing here, just installing a bunch of stuff on my ubuntu machine
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: sudo apt-get update
[23:10] <adamcunnington> ActionParsnip: done that fairly recently but will do again
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: sudo apt-get install sublime-text
[23:11] <earthian> I have settings for Super+Space for visual change to the next keyboard layout and Ctrl+LShift for next keyboard layout. However the LShift+Rshift still works and I can not find where to disable this?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: this should install the app. The instructions on the sublime link above are pretty easy and are commands to copy and paste just like those i gave
[23:12] <adamcunnington> ActionParsnip: yea cheers. I was looking for a PPA initially but got confused when i thought ikonia said that i couldn't use a ppa for this. Was probably my bad
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: is it installing now?
[23:14] <adamcunnington> ActionParsnip: yea all good thanks
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Sweet
[23:23] <iceroot> how to write Cyrillic characters with a normal keyboard (qwertz) is there something like a virtual keyboard where i can use that with the mouse? what other options to i have?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: onboard maybe, or gok
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !info gok
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !info onboard
[23:27] <iceroot> !info onboard precise
[23:50] <machbio_sand> anyone tried Luna OS here ?
[23:51] <ikonia> machbio_sand: the guys in the luna OS channel will be the better place to ask
[23:51] <redsn0w_> machbio_sand, I'm trying to
[23:52] <xangua> machbio_sand: /join #elementary for eos support
[23:52] <rommel> is elementary os luna and luna os by suse the same thing?
[23:54] <machbio> thanks guys
[23:59] <adamcunnington> Hi, what happens if a ppa repository has a package with the same name as an official package from the ubuntu repository
[23:59] <adamcunnington> how do i stipulate that i want to download the one from the ppa repository