[00:41] <alastair_> anyone got a moment or 2 to help me with a custom screen res?
[00:43] <alastair_> ...please
[13:27] <supersudo> nas al personal
[13:28] <supersudo> algun user por aqui?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !es|supersudo,
[13:30] <supersudo> /join #ubuntu.es
[18:56] <karox3> Hello, I have  question related to installing as a dual boot, is anyone on that can help?
[19:15] <karox3> Hello, I still have question related to installing as a dual boot, is anyone on that can help?
[19:16] <karox3> I'll put my issue out and see if that sparks interest
[19:16] <karox3> I'm attempting an install alongside Windows 8.1 (not by choice) with 13.10. The DVD I burned (verified with checksum, verified disc integrity) just goes to a black screen after selecting any option at boot (Try ubunty, install, check for errors...). I've checked the forums, searched all over. Any ideas?
[19:17] <karox3> Oh, and I changed the UEFI to Legacy, and turned off secure boot and fast boot
[20:17] <karox3> Hello, anyone on that can help?  I still have a question related to installing 13.10 as a dual boot
[21:24] <holstein> !dualboot
[21:24] <holstein> karox3: just elaborate if that doesnt help
[21:25] <holstein> karox3: likely, all you need to know is, ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu, so anything you find when searching "ubuntu dual boot with windows" for example is relevant
[21:26] <holstein> karox3: i think the issue you are experiencing is that the lowlatency kernel that ubuntustudio ships with may not work with uefi
[21:26] <holstein> karox3: what would i do? install xubuntu, or lubuntu or main ubuntu, and just add what you like from the studio packages
[21:27] <karox3> thanks holstein!  Do you think I'll notice any difference not having the low latency kernel (other than the fact that it would actually install)?
[21:29] <holstein> karox3: try it and see
[21:29] <karox3> and just to clarify, when I get the blank screen, it's just after selecting either "try ubuntu without installing" or "install ubuntu", or really any option from that point. I notice that there's a momentary spinup of the dvd, and then nothing, no spin, just sad, sad darkness
[21:29] <holstein> karox3: depends on what you do
[21:29] <holstein> karox3: could be anything..
[21:29] <holstein> !nomodeset
[21:29] <karox3> awesome, thanks again
[21:29] <holstein> or the kernel not being signed.. i dont have hardware like that with secure boot to test
[21:29] <holstein> if you disable secure boot, it should work
[21:30] <holstein> you can try nomodeset.. wont hurt anything
[21:30] <karox3> I disable both secure boot and fast boot
[21:30] <karox3> *disabled
[21:30] <holstein> karox3: sure.. but, thats independent of ubuntu
[21:30] <holstein> karox3: your machine has to be able to be configured to work with ubuntu
[21:30] <holstein> karox3: ubuntu is just doing what it can do... the machine has to support it
[21:31] <holstein> it would be the same if you were trying to install windows XP
[21:31] <karox3> I've been really disappointed with this purchase. Didn't think Windows 8 would be quite this evil, nor that HP (it's a recent pavillion) would be so unfriendly to linux
[21:31] <holstein> eh.. its not "evil" really.. its just business
[21:32] <holstein> if you can return it, consider system76
[21:32] <holstein> i personally started doing *much* better when i went linux, and made windows conform
[21:32] <holstein> adding windows in virtualbox on well supported linux hardware, for example
[21:33] <holstein> otherwise, it just puts a large burden on the user
[21:33] <karox3> I may try that, although from what you were saying, my hardware may be my first hurdle in getting linux running
[21:34] <holstein> sure.. as with any OS
[21:34] <holstein> but, linux is typically well supported these days
[21:36] <karox3> yeah, I've just never had so much trouble just getting even a linux live disc to load. Linux has always been able to overcome whatever crumby hardware I had
[21:36] <holstein> and, it still is.. the burden is on the hardware.. always has been
[21:36] <karox3> now I get something newer and I'm blocked from the get go  =]
[21:36] <holstein> you could just as well be trying to load OSX, or windows vista... for example
[21:36] <karox3> well, here goes, time to dig in on this. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it
[21:37] <holstein> its a lot to expect of a user, actually
[21:37] <holstein> think about what process got windows on that HP.. a team of professionals testing and fixing.. the end user basically has to decide to take that role on for linux support
[21:38] <holstein> or, buy something like system76 where they have done that same role
[21:38] <holstein> could be as simple as needing to run nomodeset, and then install the nvidia proprietary driver
[21:46] <karox3> thanks, signing off to give it a go