valorie | nice! | 00:02 |
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ahoneybun_ | yep | 00:09 |
* ahoneybun_ needs a cool hostname for his macbook | 00:13 | |
valorie | Mac the Knife | 00:18 |
valorie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qrjtr_uFac | 00:19 |
ahoneybun_ | http://vizzzion.org/blog/2014/02/next-means-focus-on-the-core/ | 00:21 |
ahoneybun_ | valorie, MactheKnife? | 00:22 |
valorie | I sang that song back in high school pop choir; still love it | 00:22 |
* ahoneybun_ goes with KuBook | 00:23 | |
valorie | isn't that new K with all the color behind it *gorgeous*!? | 00:23 |
ahoneybun_ | pretty nice | 00:23 |
valorie | I'm really happy about the new push by the design/art folks | 00:23 |
valorie | perfect timing | 00:24 |
ahoneybun_ | yea that is something that KDE really needs | 00:24 |
valorie | I think Nuno is a genius, and stepped down just in time | 00:24 |
ahoneybun_ | I like what I am reading about in the "beyond devices" section of that article | 00:24 |
* ahoneybun_ for some reason fails to install kubuntu but can install ubuntu | 01:11 | |
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Riddell | hola chicos | 08:36 |
jussi | hiya Riddell | 08:38 |
jussi | I think I should steal myself a shirt :P | 08:38 |
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agateau | I can has review? https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/kde-fix-cropped-greeter-buttons/+merge/208628 | 09:29 |
xnox | agateau: does that work with changing languages on the fly? (button is resized / redrawn?!) | 09:33 |
agateau | xnox: it should | 09:33 |
xnox | agateau: i agree that it should =) above meant as a question, whether you tested it and it worked or not =)))) | 09:36 |
agateau | xnox: heh. I believe I tested it, but I don't remember since it was last week and my brain fails me on such info. | 09:37 |
agateau | xnox: I can test it if you are willing to review it (but isn't it the point of the review to try corner cases?) | 09:38 |
apachelogger | we do have a test case for installation with localization, so we'd notice for beta2 I guess ^^ | 09:38 |
xnox | agateau: well, that's the only corner case i can come up with, and xml/code looks valid =) and i don't feel like pulling a kde image to test i18n =)))))) | 09:39 |
xnox | agateau: otherwise, i'd merge it. | 09:39 |
apachelogger | xnox: btw, do you know what tech is used to extra the menu data for app-install-data? it used to be archive-crawler, but that launchpad project has disappeared apparently | 09:39 |
xnox | apachelogger: there is a magic branch owned by ~mvo that does it, i think. | 09:40 |
apachelogger | going to browse mvo's branches then, thx ^^ | 09:40 |
apachelogger | xnox, agateau: just merge, I'll put down a card to make sure someone tests it | 09:41 |
apachelogger | https://trello.com/c/0ls4KLRB | 09:43 |
soee | so 4.12.3 is avaialble for Trusty already ? :) | 10:42 |
Riddell | soee: in proposed yes | 10:46 |
soee | hmm | 10:46 |
Riddell | but blocked by strigi | 10:46 |
soee | im trying to avoid proposed | 10:46 |
Riddell | which is also bug 1281340 in the sponsors queue | 10:47 |
ubottu | bug 1281340 in strigi (Ubuntu) "Merge strigi 0.7.8-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281340 | 10:47 |
Riddell | soee: live on the edge! | 10:47 |
soee | i did ;D and finished with fresh installation 2 weeks ago :) | 10:47 |
soee | but are we talking about kubuntu or ubuntu proposed | 10:47 |
soee | is there difference ? | 10:47 |
Riddell | no, it's all the same archive | 10:48 |
soee | ok, thank you | 10:48 |
soee | Riddell: and when do you plan to release kde 5 alphas for tests ? | 10:49 |
Riddell | soee: there's no such thing as kde 5 (a shame, missed branding opportunity really) but there is kde frameworks 5 up now in kubuntu-ppa/experimental | 10:53 |
soee | Riddell: so how it will be called ? just 4.13 ? | 10:54 |
Riddell | soee: the next KDE SC will be 4.13 | 11:00 |
Riddell | the next plasma will be Plasma Next and uses KF5 libraries, it should be out next week | 11:01 |
Riddell | other applications will be ported to KF5 as they are able | 11:01 |
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soee | and Trusty will be released with latest 4.12 ? | 11:07 |
apachelogger | soee: 4.13 | 11:09 |
apachelogger | 4.13 has nothing to do with frameworks 5 | 11:09 |
soee | uhm im a bit confused ;) | 11:12 |
lordievader | How is the iso size now Krita and Kexi are removed? Hope it is no longer oversized. | 11:15 |
Riddell | have they been removed? | 11:23 |
Riddell | so they have | 11:24 |
Riddell | but amd64 still oversized | 11:24 |
Riddell | amd64 still has it on | 11:24 |
Riddell | ah -meta only just uploaded | 11:24 |
Riddell | lordievader: need to wait until tomorrow to find out | 11:25 |
lordievader | Ah I see, keeping my fingers crossed. | 11:25 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:57 |
sgclark | Riddell: kservice is ready | 11:58 |
Riddell | morning sgclark :) | 11:58 |
sgclark | Riddell: morning :) | 11:59 |
Riddell | anyone have great ideas on fixing this build? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.7.8-1ubuntu1/+build/5619309 | 12:00 |
sgclark | Riddell: I did more studying on the symbols with the encouragement of shadeslayer, I think I have it figured out now, so doing it the right way now. | 12:00 |
Riddell | relevant code hasn't changed since it built in 0.7.7 | 12:00 |
Riddell | sgclark: lovely | 12:01 |
Riddell | sgclark: looks like solid needs another fix, new file since I changed the build system | 12:02 |
sgclark | ok | 12:03 |
sgclark | Riddell: this looks like that error on strigi? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/755 | 12:09 |
Riddell | sgclark: interesting, good stuff! | 12:18 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger did you upload libkomparediff and kwalletmanager? | 12:25 |
apachelogger | I did not | 12:25 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: is tomahawk fixed yet btw? | 12:26 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: I have a fix, I'll upload it today | 12:26 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: um not that I know of, should I have? | 12:26 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah I left you a message yesterday :P | 12:26 |
apachelogger | quassel says shadeslayer poked about it yesterday evening | 12:26 |
apachelogger | alas, he did not say where to find the dsc | 12:26 |
shadeslayer | just run kubuntu-archive-upload | 12:27 |
shadeslayer | with the necessary parameters | 12:27 |
sgclark | Riddell: solid ready | 12:27 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping | 12:35 |
apachelogger | pong | 12:35 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: when you have time, can you help me with kconf debugging | 12:36 |
apachelogger | like I know more about it ^^ | 12:38 |
shadeslayer | heh | 12:38 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: is your latest stuff in your branch or did you not change anything yet? | 12:38 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: they're not in the branch, but you have to pass the Favorites group and FavoriteURLs Key | 12:39 |
apachelogger | huh? | 12:40 |
shadeslayer | then it reads the right file | 12:40 |
Riddell | sgclark: uploaded! | 12:40 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: moment | 12:41 |
Riddell | upstream want to change to oxygen by default, that'll finally give us the dilemma of ubuntu or oxygen fonts | 12:42 |
sgclark | Riddell: kiconthemes ready | 12:43 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: changes pushed to bzr | 12:44 |
Riddell | hmm new akonadi out | 12:44 |
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apachelogger | sorry, phone just went a bit crazy | 12:53 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: so, what seems to be the problem? | 12:53 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: doesn't write new value to file | 12:53 |
apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038362/ | 12:54 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: I've tried that too | 12:54 |
apachelogger | lemme test dat | 12:55 |
apachelogger | :o | 12:57 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: works for me? | 12:57 |
shadeslayer | it does? :O | 12:57 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: with | 12:57 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: I've uploaded strigi wiht a fix for ppc64el so maybe kde will be able to transition when that's in | 12:58 |
shadeslayer | +Overwrite? | 12:58 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you push your upd file, so that we can close the bug? | 12:58 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: how did that not work for you? Oo | 13:00 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: i really don't know, this was on a clean upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 | 13:01 |
apachelogger | why don't you simply fumble your kickoffrc into shape such that it contains kopete and rekonq? :O | 13:01 |
apachelogger | (on a complete related note , we technically need an update script for plasma-netbook....) | 13:02 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: Because I wanted to test the upgrader? | 13:02 |
apachelogger | no, you wanted to fix the update script, no? :P | 13:02 |
shadeslayer | both | 13:05 |
apachelogger | that worked out well :P | 13:05 |
* apachelogger gets some tea | 13:06 | |
shadeslayer | it was only after I kicked off the update that I realized that I can also test the latter | 13:06 |
Riddell | sgclark: uploaded! | 13:07 |
apachelogger | https://trello.com/c/0da0eVuH | 13:13 |
apachelogger | latest numbers: 28 todo, 14 doing, 0 review, 67 done, 17 postponed, 11 abandoned | 13:14 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: about that, how do you find those numbers ? :P | 13:14 |
apachelogger | no clue, it displays it for me :P | 13:14 |
apachelogger | might be a greasemonkey script | 13:15 |
shadeslayer | where? :D | 13:15 |
apachelogger | I have no clue | 13:15 |
apachelogger | I always install stuff and then I see more than other people xD | 13:15 |
apachelogger | <- perfect target for malware | 13:15 |
shadeslayer | no, where does it show for you? xD | 13:15 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: on the boards | 13:15 |
apachelogger | "Oxygen as default font" oh my | 13:16 |
shadeslayer | :D | 13:16 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: what's the output of dpkg-query -W --showformat='${binary:Package};${Version};${Status}\n' | grep -v deinstall | grep -v "install ok installed" | 13:25 |
apachelogger | like for your system | 13:25 |
shadeslayer | nothing | 13:26 |
shadeslayer | le empty | 13:26 |
apachelogger | anyone else around? | 13:26 |
apachelogger | CHANNELPING | 13:26 |
apachelogger | I really thought there was another value | 13:28 |
apachelogger | install ok config-files | 13:30 |
apachelogger | no clue what it means ^^ | 13:30 |
apachelogger | man, the build queues -.- | 13:34 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/ | 13:35 |
shadeslayer | ENOCSS? | 13:35 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: I'm shuffling everything about to tidy it, still working on it | 13:35 |
shadeslayer | okie | 13:35 |
apachelogger | so | 13:49 |
apachelogger | I think we may want to introduce some fake desktop files to get stuff to show up in discover | 13:49 |
Riddell | yes | 13:49 |
Riddell | like kde sdk? | 13:50 |
apachelogger | getting a blanket solution for kcms and plasmoids will require some serious python haxxoring and collaboration | 13:50 |
apachelogger | Riddell: already done, colord-kcm comes to mind | 13:50 |
apachelogger | I'd like to boot if off the CD for lack of widespread use | 13:50 |
apachelogger | s/CD/ISO/ | 13:50 |
kubotu | apachelogger meant: "I'd like to boot if off the ISO for lack of widespread use" | 13:50 |
apachelogger | grub2 kcm might be another thing | 13:51 |
apachelogger | and perhaps the plasmoid-addons (though I think those are on the ISO anyway) | 13:52 |
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Riddell | shadeslayer: strigi is in! | 14:01 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: kde4libs is in! | 14:03 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: yay | 14:17 |
sgclark | Riddell: this is weird, knotifications has a bunch of t3 depends now, did they move it to t3 from t2? | 14:18 |
Riddell | sgclark: yeah looks like they did from http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/List | 14:25 |
sgclark | ahh ok | 14:27 |
Riddell | awooga, qt 5.2 appearing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdoc-opensource-src | 14:41 |
sgclark | Riddell: knotifications ready | 14:43 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.3_trusty.html working now | 14:44 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: cool | 14:44 |
Riddell | sgclark: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.97.0_trusty.html working again | 14:44 |
shadeslayer | though was not required :D | 14:44 |
ronnoc | Hi all. I'm sure it's not a high priority at the moment with everything going on regarding 14.04 and KDE F5, but thoughts on bug 1284745? | 14:47 |
ubottu | bug 1284745 in ktorrent (Ubuntu) "Ktorrent and libktorrent need upgraded to 4.3.1 for all supported platforms because of bug fixes " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284745 | 14:47 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: saucy and trusty have 4.3.1 | 14:47 |
shadeslayer | !info ktorrent trusty | 14:47 |
ubottu | ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client based on the KDE platform. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.1-2 (trusty), package size 937 kB, installed size 3653 kB | 14:48 |
Riddell | ronnoc: ↑ | 14:49 |
ronnoc | shadeslayer: as per bug report, I was thinking (hoping) for a backport to 12.04 - not useable in current state :) | 14:49 |
Riddell | bug report is for 12.04 | 14:49 |
shadeslayer | ronnoc: maybe via kubuntu-backports | 14:50 |
Riddell | ronnoc, shadeslayer: I'll look at it | 14:51 |
ronnoc | shadeslayer: that would be acceptable. I think someone installing our LTS would want a working torrent app if it's included by default :) | 14:52 |
ronnoc | Riddell: Thx! | 14:52 |
sgclark | Riddell: not sure what is going on with red on kconfigwidgets, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/5658277 show success and the manpage in in list-missing is listed in not-installed file | 14:52 |
shadeslayer | cool | 14:52 |
shadeslayer | onwards :) | 14:52 |
Riddell | sgclark: hmm | 14:55 |
Riddell | sgclark: I don't think the report takes into consideration not-installed | 14:56 |
Riddell | which is a bit of a failing if so | 14:57 |
sgclark | ok, moving on then :) | 14:57 |
Quintasan | Tis' be queer | 15:01 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: We have no 0.7 for raring | 15:01 |
Quintasan | I'm talking about telepathy-kde | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: oh | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: raring be unsupported | 15:03 |
Quintasan | And quantal and saucy arE? | 15:04 |
Riddell | supported but not actively updated with backports | 15:04 |
Riddell | saucy and precise are | 15:04 |
Quintasan | derp | 15:04 |
Quintasan | I though raring is LTS | 15:04 |
Quintasan | silly Quintasan | 15:04 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: plz be testing saucy ktp backports | 15:04 |
shadeslayer | in staging | 15:04 |
shadeslayer | or Riddell ^^ | 15:05 |
Quintasan | Certainly, I'm planning to reinstall Kubuntu on muh laptops once trusty comes out so I might as well as turn it into testing grounds | 15:05 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: do you have that fancy thing that allows you to test slideshows | 15:06 |
* apachelogger blogs http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/kubuntu-testing-and-you/ | 15:07 | |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: so do you? | 15:08 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't know what it's called | 15:08 |
shadeslayer | the ubiquity slideshows I mean | 15:08 |
* Quintasan reads | 15:08 | |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: ls | 15:08 |
shadeslayer | whut? | 15:08 |
apachelogger | ~/src/bzr/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu ls *kubuntu* | 15:08 |
apachelogger | kubuntu-slideshow.py | 15:08 |
apachelogger | u so noob | 15:08 |
shadeslayer | oh | 15:09 |
shadeslayer | huh | 15:09 |
dougl | my plymouth splash does not work on my 14.04 when I test it virtually it works fine and 13.10 on same machine works fine too - any suggestions? | 15:13 |
apachelogger | define: does not work | 15:14 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do you call it :S | 15:17 |
shadeslayer | I keep getting ConfigParser.NoSectionError: No section: 'Slideshow' | 15:17 |
apachelogger | cannot reproduce | 15:18 |
apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/pEPAVBz.png | 15:18 |
shadeslayer | huh works now | 15:19 |
dougl | apachelogger, sorry when I test I see the animation full screen and when I boot I see some ugly default kubutu 14.04 with 4 dots underneath | 15:20 |
dougl | brb | 15:21 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/JSy7Q7L.png | 15:22 |
shadeslayer | better? | 15:22 |
apachelogger | maybe | 15:22 |
apachelogger | I dunno | 15:22 |
apachelogger | you see the slides | 15:22 |
apachelogger | if it looks as big as the others then it's perfect :P | 15:22 |
shadeslayer | yeah looks fine | 15:23 |
dougl | apachelogger, says kubuntu 14.04 with 4 blue dots underneath | 15:23 |
apachelogger | dougl: your graphics driver does not support kernel mode setting, so it cannot use the fancy splash version | 15:24 |
apachelogger | nothing we can do about that | 15:24 |
apachelogger | there are some workarounds to force mode setting regardless which might work, or might not work for you, google should help | 15:24 |
dougl | works like a charm in 13.10 and yesterday in 14.04 - thanks | 15:25 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude, changing a language takes way too much time | 15:49 |
shadeslayer | it's been going on for 25 minutes now | 15:50 |
genii | What, there's a fancy splash version? | 15:50 |
shadeslayer | genii: yeah :D | 15:52 |
shadeslayer | genii: kubuntu logo with a glow that fade's in / out | 15:52 |
genii | shadeslayer: I used to have that in 13.04 but for some reason it stopped after I upgraded to 13.10 ( and now 14.04). I figured it was just something with plymouth | 15:54 |
genii | ( and got used to watching the dots blink by.... ) | 15:55 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: perhaps your intartubes is slow | 15:55 |
apachelogger | or qapt is broken | 15:56 |
apachelogger | it should take exactly as long as it takes to download stuffs | 15:56 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: no, it's stuck on the thing where it says "Applying changery" | 15:56 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: screenshot? | 15:56 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/LBV4dPj.png | 15:56 |
apachelogger | that's not mine | 15:57 |
apachelogger | that's upstreams thing | 15:57 |
apachelogger | might be that kbuildsycoca crapped out or something, I am not exactly sure what the dialog does | 15:57 |
shadeslayer | doesn't matter, broken http://i.imgur.com/nn7ypbB.png | 15:57 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: it does matter, because I do not know how to debug this :P | 15:58 |
apachelogger | perhaps gdb attach to systemsettings and try to see if there is a thread lingering | 15:58 |
apachelogger | though I doubt it | 15:58 |
apachelogger | or check your startkdelog for possible output | 15:58 |
Riddell | akonadi 1.11.80 going up, first part of 4.13 | 16:00 |
shadeslayer | what am I supposed to be looking for? | 16:00 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: and can you try and reproduce it on your machine? | 16:01 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: I cannot | 16:09 |
apachelogger | I do recall this happening since kde3 though | 16:09 |
apachelogger | completely randomly the reload dialog will get stuck | 16:09 |
apachelogger | doesn't happen all this often either | 16:10 |
apachelogger | have seen it like twice ever | 16:10 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: libkomparediff2 still not updated | 16:13 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: where do I find it? | 16:16 |
* Riddell uploads a new kcm-touchpad snapshot to fix kde bug 331285 | 16:25 | |
ubottu | KDE bug 331285 in daemon "Touchpad kded does not work well with Touchpadenabler from KDE Workspace" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331285 | 16:25 |
apachelogger | Riddell: ----> cherrypick <---- | 16:26 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: one just uses kubuntu-archive-upload :) | 16:28 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: fyi language kcm sets language for dpkg but then forgets to unset it | 16:28 |
apachelogger | hm? | 16:29 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: change language to catalan -> log out -> log in -> use apt/dpkg -> change language to english -> log out -> log in -> use apt -> apt still outputs thingums in Catalan | 16:30 |
apachelogger | oh la la | 16:31 |
apachelogger | check yer .kde/env/setlanguage.sh | 16:31 |
apachelogger | also file a bug | 16:31 |
apachelogger | also I was under the impression that sometimes setlanguage is not written | 16:31 |
apachelogger | I could not actively reproduce it though | 16:31 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039332/ | 16:32 |
apachelogger | might be that I guess | 16:32 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: get debug logs and report bug plz | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | what do you want? | 16:32 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: libkomparediff2_4.12.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes uploaded | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: thx | 16:33 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: get debug logs and report bug plz | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes, what debug logs do you want :P | 16:33 |
apachelogger | kdebug debug logs | 16:33 |
soee | i see updates are available now :) | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: too unspecific | 16:34 |
apachelogger | za kitten | 16:34 |
apachelogger | kdebugdialog -> activate all | 16:34 |
apachelogger | systemsettings -> regional settings -> language -> change language, change language back, change language, change language back.... | 16:35 |
apachelogger | get stdout and stderr of systemsettings | 16:35 |
apachelogger | save to file | 16:35 |
apachelogger | report bug | 16:35 |
apachelogger | attach saved file to bug | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | cool | 16:35 |
apachelogger | assign bug to ~apachelogger | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | will do | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw any clue where one can find the dpkg exit codes? | 16:36 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: in $? | 16:37 |
apachelogger | dunno, need context | 16:37 |
shadeslayer | no, all possible dpkg exit codes | 16:37 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: apparently qaptworker calls dpkg manually internally | 16:37 |
shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039369 | 16:38 |
apachelogger | why are you looking into that? | 16:38 |
apachelogger | it's like the least high profile bug ever | 16:38 |
apachelogger | and the problem isn't dpkg, see my comment | 16:39 |
apachelogger | it's qapt | 16:39 |
shadeslayer | really? I think it's quite important when debs don't install ? :S | 16:39 |
apachelogger | you didn't even manage to confirm the bug until i told you how to | 16:39 |
apachelogger | besides, the solution is non-trivial | 16:40 |
apachelogger | and we'd not want to mess with it past FF | 16:40 |
shadeslayer | oh :S | 16:40 |
apachelogger | essentially the client application would have to pass the locale to the worker, via dbus | 16:41 |
apachelogger | and that then raises the question what happens when more than one client is on the worker | 16:41 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: got any TODO's for me then | 16:43 |
apachelogger | trello? | 16:43 |
apachelogger | on the note of trello | 16:44 |
apachelogger | todo for trello about trello on trello: poke people to trello along their cards | 16:44 |
apachelogger | there's cards in doing that have been there for like a month | 16:44 |
shadeslayer | will do pokery | 16:45 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: rm -f /tmp/dump.tar.xz <- that should not happen, the dump name should be dependent on whatever mktmp created > Why? | 16:50 |
sgclark | Riddell: did you see knotifications was ready a bit back? or did it fail again? | 16:55 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: mind uploading kwalletmanager? so that Riddell can approve from source new then | 16:57 |
sgclark | shadeslayer: mind reviewing knotifications? I think Riddell stepped away :) | 17:00 |
shadeslayer | sure | 17:00 |
Riddell | thanks shadeslayer, I must have missed your ping sgclark | 17:02 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: looks fine to me | 17:02 |
sgclark | np :) bunch of these only nneed a retry on build, just have to be done in order due to depends | 17:02 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: assuming it was just the last commit | 17:03 |
sgclark | needs push then, I can't do that :) | 17:03 |
Peace- | :) dolphin asks me to install stuff but it fails on 14.04 http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/05/plasma-desktopOO2341.png | 17:06 |
Peace- | => http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/05/plasma-desktopZe2341.png | 17:07 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: mind uploading http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/tomahawk_0.7.0+dfsg1-0ubuntu2.dsc | 17:12 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: onto it | 17:13 |
shadeslayer | cheers | 17:13 |
Riddell | "kubuntu_fix_plugin_install.patch" does not comply to policy! | 17:13 |
Riddell | should be kubuntu_fix-plugin-install.patch :) | 17:13 |
Riddell | "Forwarded: not-needed" I always think that should have an explanation | 17:14 |
shadeslayer | sigh | 17:15 |
sgclark | Riddell: or shadeslayer mind uploading knotifications, it is holding up progress | 17:16 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: uploaded , plz dget again | 17:18 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: pardon? what's uploaded? what should I dget? | 17:23 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/tomahawk_0.7.0+dfsg1-0ubuntu2.dsc | 17:23 |
shadeslayer | fixed as per your suggestions | 17:23 |
Riddell | dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field | 17:25 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: I'll fix that | 17:25 |
Riddell | oh no it's not needed | 17:25 |
sgclark | Riddell: kio is ready, minor fix to dev package | 17:25 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: you onto knotifications or shall I? | 17:26 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: tomahawk uploaded! | 17:26 |
shadeslayer | go ahead, I have to fix some other stuff :) | 17:26 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: like the tomahawk build failures? :) | 17:30 |
shadeslayer | nope | 17:32 |
shadeslayer | and meh, ppc64el | 17:32 |
sgclark | Riddell: kwallet-framework ready | 17:33 |
sgclark | I am at a standstill until knotifications, kio, and kwallet build :) I will be back in a few! | 17:35 |
Riddell | sgclark: uploaded! | 17:39 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: update werks. | 18:48 |
soee | Peace-: you are using gstreamer backend ? | 19:11 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: mind copying over the packages? | 19:22 |
Quintasan | To PPA? | 19:22 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: urgh, kubuntu-updates or backports? | 19:23 |
shadeslayer | backports | 19:23 |
* Quintasan can't never remember | 19:23 | |
Peace- | soee: yep | 19:26 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: Done. | 19:29 |
shadeslayer | cheers | 19:30 |
sgclark | Riddell: did you upload kawallet-framework as well? still showing same failed log | 19:35 |
vgezer | apachelogger: hi. I have been discussing about localizaiton of .desktop files "Install Kubuntu" and "Kubuntu Documentation" on desktop after fresh installation as you could remember. (https://trello.com/c/Tym1s4IP/4-l10n-review-2). Why did you guys decide not to include it? Is it due to deadlines? | 20:24 |
soee | Peace-: switch to VLC and should work | 20:34 |
soee | i had the same message in Minitube | 20:34 |
soee | couldnt sove this :/ | 20:34 |
soee | after switch to VLC backend all worsk fine | 20:34 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1077196 | 20:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1077196 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "klipper does not save contents from closed windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:38 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1281036 | 20:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1281036 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Why is kdm still depending on consolekit?" [Undecided,New] | 20:40 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: please follow up | 20:40 |
Quintasan | ScottK: FYI, I will sign your key if I manage to tidy up mine first. | 20:52 |
Quintasan | I'm trying to get rid of unused UIDs in mine and GNUPG docs says it's better to revoke uids instead of deleting them since keyservers won't process the deletion. | 20:53 |
Quintasan | Currently I can't see any gpg server saying my uids are revoked. | 20:53 |
shadeslayer | Mamarok: Have you seen something like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/1285729 | 20:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1285729 in amarok (Ubuntu) "amarok unable to transcode" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 20:54 |
shadeslayer | I left my iPod back home | 20:54 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: did you do a source copy of the packages -.- | 20:56 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: not sure | 20:56 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: you did :( | 20:57 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: How is that bad? | 20:57 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: cuz now people will get common internals before the rest of the stack | 20:58 |
* Quintasan recalls Launchpad rebuilding the packages if one copies them | 20:58 | |
Quintasan | aaah | 20:58 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: you can do binary copies | 20:58 |
Quintasan | It doesn't rebulid them? | 20:58 |
shadeslayer | nope | 20:58 |
Quintasan | Like. Uh. | 20:58 |
Quintasan | Why'd you do that. I can copy stuff from Trusty to Saucy or even earlier. | 20:59 |
Quintasan | This is potentially broken | 20:59 |
shadeslayer | sure | 20:59 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: prevents situation that I outlined earlier | 20:59 |
Quintasan | Hmm, my bad anyways. | 20:59 |
shadeslayer | and since PPA's don't have a -proposed pocket ... | 20:59 |
Quintasan | Not going to argue about that. | 20:59 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: I'll send the grumpy users your way :P | 21:00 |
Quintasan | Okay. | 21:00 |
Quintasan | ScottK: Okay, seems like the servers finally registered my changes, you probably want to see them. If that breaks the chain of trust then I'm probably better off not signing your key. | 21:02 |
ScottK | Quintasan: Your call. | 21:09 |
Quintasan | I'm not an expert on this whole stuff but it looks like I rekoved my signature on the uid so theoretically that should not break it. | 21:10 |
Quintasan | Christ this is too complicated | 21:14 |
ScottK | Quintasan: The question is if you trust my signed mail enough to sign the new key based on it. | 21:20 |
ScottK | Your key status shouldn't matter. You just sign it with your current key if you chose to. | 21:21 |
Quintasan | ScottK: No problems on my end. I'll just get my key sorted out first and sign yours. | 21:22 |
Mamarok | shadeslayer: thatis a packaging isuse: we depend on ffmpeg, that should be automatically dragged (or its replacement libav) when the user installs Amarok | 21:23 |
Mamarok | only reported on Debian and its spinoffs, as they don't use ffmpeg but libav instead IIRC | 21:23 |
shadeslayer | mhm | 21:23 |
Mamarok | since that is in our readme, the packagers should package accordingly if the distro doesn't use ffmpeg | 21:24 |
Mamarok | so definitely not an upstream isuse | 21:24 |
shadeslayer | Mamarok: gotcha | 21:24 |
Mamarok | ususe* | 21:24 |
Mamarok | you are welcome :) | 21:24 |
shadeslayer | thx | 21:24 |
* shadeslayer gets cracking on a fix | 21:25 | |
shadeslayer | Amarok's bug entries on Launchpad are just a tiny bit cleaner now :P | 21:25 |
Mamarok | why are they actually reported on Launchpad? Shouldn't those go upstream by default? | 21:27 |
Mamarok | except this one, of course :) | 21:27 |
shadeslayer | Mamarok: because, humans | 21:28 |
Mamarok | true, that, especially when it comes to bug reports :) | 21:29 |
shadeslayer | hmmm | 21:31 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: how does one solve this :P | 21:31 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: transcoding libs required by amarok are in multiverse | 21:31 |
Mamarok | install libav? | 21:31 |
shadeslayer | Mamarok: multiverse | 21:32 |
Mamarok | that should be in universe, no? | 21:32 |
shadeslayer | !info libfaac0 | 21:32 |
ubottu | libfaac0 (source: faac): AAC audio encoder (library). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.28-5 (saucy), package size 37 kB, installed size 109 kB | 21:32 |
Mamarok | what about ffmpeg? | 21:32 |
shadeslayer | not sure we have those | 21:33 |
Mamarok | indeed, but it is not libaac you need but libav | 21:34 |
shadeslayer | though isn't libaac something that would required at runtime to transcode things? | 21:35 |
Mamarok | I don't think we transcode to that | 21:36 |
shadeslayer | readme mentions it :P | 21:36 |
Mamarok | we transcode mp3, ogg and flac AFAIK | 21:36 |
shadeslayer | I reckon we can ship libavbin0 | 21:37 |
Mamarok | hm, I didn't even check readme right now, stated from memory | 21:37 |
Mamarok | which is treacherous :) | 21:37 |
Quintasan | ScottK: Would you like your signature to be sent to all of your emails or the first one? | 21:42 |
ScottK | Quintasan: All. | 21:52 |
Quintasan | ScottK: done. | 21:53 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 21:53 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Is it needed in build-deps or just at runtime? | 21:53 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: runtime | 21:53 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Make it suggests in the package and then add the needed package to kubuntu-restricted-extras (if we still have such a thing) | 21:54 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: so the libs I can figure out from the readme are : libvorbisenc2 libvorbis0a libavbin0 ( probably) libmp3lame | 21:54 |
Mamarok | isn't lame only needed for writing to CDs? | 21:54 |
shadeslayer | Mamarok: just following the README :D | 21:55 |
Mamarok | I know, just surprised that we would need lame | 21:55 |
shadeslayer | I also see something for wma, but can | 21:57 |
shadeslayer | *can't find a package for that | 21:57 |
Riddell | how's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8 | 22:37 |
* Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8 | 22:45 | |
Quintasan | Great. | 22:45 |
Quintasan | yofel, shadeslayer: can has p-n meeting this weekend? | 22:46 |
yofel | you may want to invite apachelogger as he's been doing most of the kf5 stuff | 22:47 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: feel invited | 22:47 |
yofel | shadeslayer: btw. debian bug 729203 for your entertainment | 22:47 |
ubottu | Debian bug 729203 in wnpp "ITP: ffmpeg -- complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/729203 | 22:47 |
Quintasan | what | 22:47 |
Quintasan | is that | 22:48 |
yofel | in case you didn't see it yet | 22:48 |
Quintasan | >The only way to prevent endless discussions would be if you close this | 22:49 |
Quintasan | RFP and instead send a bug to the Debian Technical Committee [1] for a | 22:49 |
Quintasan | technical decision whether jessie should ship with libav or ffmpeg. | 22:49 |
Quintasan | OH MY GOD | 22:49 |
Quintasan | I like can see it happening. | 22:49 |
Quintasan | Tell me it did | 22:49 |
yofel | not sure what'll happen, I think the security team was against it at some point | 22:50 |
yofel | they don't want to maintain 2 copies of (not really) the same thing | 22:50 |
Quintasan | and users don't want inferior software | 22:51 |
yofel | the plan so far is to at least get the binaries back so 'ffmpeg' etc. work again - statically linked maybe or whatever | 22:52 |
Quintasan | brb | 22:55 |
Quintasan | yofel: Truth be told I didn't know Debian did sth like this and I've been thinking ffmpeg is really deprecated. | 22:58 |
yofel | heh, it's confusing really :( | 22:59 |
ScottK | Quintasan: Thanks. Accepted and uploaded to the keyserver. | 23:01 |
Quintasan | yofel: It sucks to be honest. | 23:02 |
ScottK | yofel: When libav was forked from ffmpeg, the Debian maintainer was one of the proponents of the fork, so it's no surprise that's the one we have. | 23:02 |
yofel | right | 23:03 |
Quintasan | >Also Debian's very own ABI checking program icheck has some bugs, ironically, on testing FFmpeg | 23:04 |
Quintasan | Comedy level - libav. | 23:04 |
Quintasan | ScottK: Why did the split actually happen? | 23:04 |
ScottK | The story as I heard if (from the libav side) was that the lead ffmpeg guy was blocking stuff going in, so they finally said "screw it, we'll fork". | 23:05 |
ScottK | Of course, as soon as they announced the fork, he started grabbing patches from the fork. | 23:05 |
ScottK | But they weren't exactly anxious to work with the guy anymore. | 23:06 |
Quintasan | oh wow. | 23:06 |
ScottK | AIUI, anyway | 23:06 |
Riddell | ScottK: "The current PyQt5, PyQt4, QScintilla and SIP snapshots are all release candidates. The final releases will be in about a week. In the meantime any testing would be greatly appreciated." | 23:15 |
Riddell | says pyqt man on the pyqt list | 23:15 |
ScottK | Riddell: I saw that. | 23:15 |
ScottK | First let's get Qt5 5.2 landed with pyqt5.2 updated. | 23:15 |
* ahoneybun installs kubuntu-desktop package in Ubuntu | 23:47 | |
valorie | weeee, I haz 4.12.3 | 23:54 |
valorie | apachelogger: your "you need more language stuffs" looks and works great | 23:54 |
apachelogger | \o/ | 23:54 |
* ahoneybun knows nothing of this | 23:58 |
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