[00:02] nice! [00:09] yep [00:13] * ahoneybun_ needs a cool hostname for his macbook [00:18] Mac the Knife [00:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qrjtr_uFac [00:21] http://vizzzion.org/blog/2014/02/next-means-focus-on-the-core/ [00:22] valorie, MactheKnife? [00:22] I sang that song back in high school pop choir; still love it [00:23] * ahoneybun_ goes with KuBook [00:23] isn't that new K with all the color behind it *gorgeous*!? [00:23] pretty nice [00:23] I'm really happy about the new push by the design/art folks [00:24] perfect timing [00:24] yea that is something that KDE really needs [00:24] I think Nuno is a genius, and stepped down just in time [00:24] I like what I am reading about in the "beyond devices" section of that article [01:11] * ahoneybun_ for some reason fails to install kubuntu but can install ubuntu === Don is now known as Guest45470 === Squt is now known as Sput [08:36] hola chicos [08:38] hiya Riddell [08:38] I think I should steal myself a shirt :P === soee_ is now known as soee [09:29] I can has review? https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/kde-fix-cropped-greeter-buttons/+merge/208628 [09:33] agateau: does that work with changing languages on the fly? (button is resized / redrawn?!) [09:33] xnox: it should [09:36] agateau: i agree that it should =) above meant as a question, whether you tested it and it worked or not =)))) [09:37] xnox: heh. I believe I tested it, but I don't remember since it was last week and my brain fails me on such info. [09:38] xnox: I can test it if you are willing to review it (but isn't it the point of the review to try corner cases?) [09:38] we do have a test case for installation with localization, so we'd notice for beta2 I guess ^^ [09:39] agateau: well, that's the only corner case i can come up with, and xml/code looks valid =) and i don't feel like pulling a kde image to test i18n =)))))) [09:39] agateau: otherwise, i'd merge it. [09:39] xnox: btw, do you know what tech is used to extra the menu data for app-install-data? it used to be archive-crawler, but that launchpad project has disappeared apparently [09:40] apachelogger: there is a magic branch owned by ~mvo that does it, i think. [09:40] going to browse mvo's branches then, thx ^^ [09:41] xnox, agateau: just merge, I'll put down a card to make sure someone tests it [09:43] https://trello.com/c/0ls4KLRB [10:42] so 4.12.3 is avaialble for Trusty already ? :) [10:46] soee: in proposed yes [10:46] hmm [10:46] but blocked by strigi [10:46] im trying to avoid proposed [10:47] which is also bug 1281340 in the sponsors queue [10:47] bug 1281340 in strigi (Ubuntu) "Merge strigi 0.7.8-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281340 [10:47] soee: live on the edge! [10:47] i did ;D and finished with fresh installation 2 weeks ago :) [10:47] but are we talking about kubuntu or ubuntu proposed [10:47] is there difference ? [10:48] no, it's all the same archive [10:48] ok, thank you [10:49] Riddell: and when do you plan to release kde 5 alphas for tests ? [10:53] soee: there's no such thing as kde 5 (a shame, missed branding opportunity really) but there is kde frameworks 5 up now in kubuntu-ppa/experimental [10:54] Riddell: so how it will be called ? just 4.13 ? [11:00] soee: the next KDE SC will be 4.13 [11:01] the next plasma will be Plasma Next and uses KF5 libraries, it should be out next week [11:01] other applications will be ported to KF5 as they are able === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [11:07] and Trusty will be released with latest 4.12 ? [11:09] soee: 4.13 [11:09] 4.13 has nothing to do with frameworks 5 [11:12] uhm im a bit confused ;) [11:15] How is the iso size now Krita and Kexi are removed? Hope it is no longer oversized. [11:23] have they been removed? [11:24] so they have [11:24] but amd64 still oversized [11:24] amd64 still has it on [11:24] ah -meta only just uploaded [11:25] lordievader: need to wait until tomorrow to find out [11:25] Ah I see, keeping my fingers crossed. [11:57] Hiyas all [11:58] Riddell: kservice is ready [11:58] morning sgclark :) [11:59] Riddell: morning :) [12:00] anyone have great ideas on fixing this build? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.7.8-1ubuntu1/+build/5619309 [12:00] Riddell: I did more studying on the symbols with the encouragement of shadeslayer, I think I have it figured out now, so doing it the right way now. [12:00] relevant code hasn't changed since it built in 0.7.7 [12:01] sgclark: lovely [12:02] sgclark: looks like solid needs another fix, new file since I changed the build system [12:03] ok [12:09] Riddell: this looks like that error on strigi? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/755 [12:18] sgclark: interesting, good stuff! [12:25] Riddell: apachelogger did you upload libkomparediff and kwalletmanager? [12:25] I did not [12:26] shadeslayer: is tomahawk fixed yet btw? [12:26] apachelogger: I have a fix, I'll upload it today [12:26] shadeslayer: um not that I know of, should I have? [12:26] Riddell: yeah I left you a message yesterday :P [12:26] quassel says shadeslayer poked about it yesterday evening [12:26] alas, he did not say where to find the dsc [12:27] just run kubuntu-archive-upload [12:27] with the necessary parameters [12:27] Riddell: solid ready [12:35] apachelogger: ping [12:35] pong [12:36] apachelogger: when you have time, can you help me with kconf debugging [12:38] like I know more about it ^^ [12:38] heh [12:38] shadeslayer: is your latest stuff in your branch or did you not change anything yet? [12:39] apachelogger: they're not in the branch, but you have to pass the Favorites group and FavoriteURLs Key [12:40] huh? [12:40] then it reads the right file [12:40] sgclark: uploaded! [12:41] apachelogger: moment [12:42] upstream want to change to oxygen by default, that'll finally give us the dilemma of ubuntu or oxygen fonts [12:43] Riddell: kiconthemes ready [12:44] apachelogger: changes pushed to bzr [12:44] hmm new akonadi out === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:53] sorry, phone just went a bit crazy [12:53] shadeslayer: so, what seems to be the problem? [12:53] apachelogger: doesn't write new value to file [12:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038362/ [12:54] apachelogger: I've tried that too [12:55] lemme test dat [12:57] :o [12:57] shadeslayer: works for me? [12:57] it does? :O [12:57] apachelogger: with [12:58] shadeslayer: I've uploaded strigi wiht a fix for ppc64el so maybe kde will be able to transition when that's in [12:58] +Overwrite? [12:58] apachelogger: can you push your upd file, so that we can close the bug? [13:00] shadeslayer: how did that not work for you? Oo [13:01] apachelogger: i really don't know, this was on a clean upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 [13:01] why don't you simply fumble your kickoffrc into shape such that it contains kopete and rekonq? :O [13:02] (on a complete related note , we technically need an update script for plasma-netbook....) [13:02] apachelogger: Because I wanted to test the upgrader? [13:02] no, you wanted to fix the update script, no? :P [13:05] both [13:05] that worked out well :P [13:06] * apachelogger gets some tea [13:06] it was only after I kicked off the update that I realized that I can also test the latter [13:07] sgclark: uploaded! [13:13] https://trello.com/c/0da0eVuH [13:14] latest numbers: 28 todo, 14 doing, 0 review, 67 done, 17 postponed, 11 abandoned [13:14] apachelogger: about that, how do you find those numbers ? :P [13:14] no clue, it displays it for me :P [13:15] might be a greasemonkey script [13:15] where? :D [13:15] I have no clue [13:15] I always install stuff and then I see more than other people xD [13:15] <- perfect target for malware [13:15] no, where does it show for you? xD [13:15] shadeslayer: on the boards [13:16] "Oxygen as default font" oh my [13:16] :D [13:25] shadeslayer: what's the output of dpkg-query -W --showformat='${binary:Package};${Version};${Status}\n' | grep -v deinstall | grep -v "install ok installed" [13:25] like for your system [13:26] nothing [13:26] le empty [13:26] anyone else around? [13:26] CHANNELPING [13:28] I really thought there was another value [13:30] install ok config-files [13:30] no clue what it means ^^ [13:34] man, the build queues -.- [13:35] Riddell: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/ [13:35] ENOCSS? [13:35] shadeslayer: I'm shuffling everything about to tidy it, still working on it [13:35] okie [13:49] so [13:49] I think we may want to introduce some fake desktop files to get stuff to show up in discover [13:49] yes [13:50] like kde sdk? [13:50] getting a blanket solution for kcms and plasmoids will require some serious python haxxoring and collaboration [13:50] Riddell: already done, colord-kcm comes to mind [13:50] I'd like to boot if off the CD for lack of widespread use [13:50] s/CD/ISO/ [13:50] apachelogger meant: "I'd like to boot if off the ISO for lack of widespread use" [13:51] grub2 kcm might be another thing [13:52] and perhaps the plasmoid-addons (though I think those are on the ISO anyway) === Pici` is now known as Pici [14:01] shadeslayer: strigi is in! [14:03] shadeslayer: kde4libs is in! [14:17] Riddell: yay [14:18] Riddell: this is weird, knotifications has a bunch of t3 depends now, did they move it to t3 from t2? [14:25] sgclark: yeah looks like they did from http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/List [14:27] ahh ok [14:41] awooga, qt 5.2 appearing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdoc-opensource-src [14:43] Riddell: knotifications ready [14:44] shadeslayer: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.3_trusty.html working now [14:44] Riddell: cool [14:44] sgclark: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.97.0_trusty.html working again [14:44] though was not required :D [14:47] Hi all. I'm sure it's not a high priority at the moment with everything going on regarding 14.04 and KDE F5, but thoughts on bug 1284745? [14:47] bug 1284745 in ktorrent (Ubuntu) "Ktorrent and libktorrent need upgraded to 4.3.1 for all supported platforms because of bug fixes " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284745 [14:47] Riddell: saucy and trusty have 4.3.1 [14:47] !info ktorrent trusty [14:48] ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client based on the KDE platform. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.1-2 (trusty), package size 937 kB, installed size 3653 kB [14:49] ronnoc: ↑ [14:49] shadeslayer: as per bug report, I was thinking (hoping) for a backport to 12.04 - not useable in current state :) [14:49] bug report is for 12.04 [14:50] ronnoc: maybe via kubuntu-backports [14:51] ronnoc, shadeslayer: I'll look at it [14:52] shadeslayer: that would be acceptable. I think someone installing our LTS would want a working torrent app if it's included by default :) [14:52] Riddell: Thx! [14:52] Riddell: not sure what is going on with red on kconfigwidgets, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/5658277 show success and the manpage in in list-missing is listed in not-installed file [14:52] cool [14:52] onwards :) [14:55] sgclark: hmm [14:56] sgclark: I don't think the report takes into consideration not-installed [14:57] which is a bit of a failing if so [14:57] ok, moving on then :) [15:01] Tis' be queer [15:01] shadeslayer: We have no 0.7 for raring [15:02] I'm talking about telepathy-kde [15:02] Quintasan: oh [15:03] Quintasan: raring be unsupported [15:04] And quantal and saucy arE? [15:04] supported but not actively updated with backports [15:04] saucy and precise are [15:04] derp [15:04] I though raring is LTS [15:04] silly Quintasan [15:04] Quintasan: plz be testing saucy ktp backports [15:04] in staging [15:05] or Riddell ^^ [15:05] Certainly, I'm planning to reinstall Kubuntu on muh laptops once trusty comes out so I might as well as turn it into testing grounds [15:06] apachelogger: do you have that fancy thing that allows you to test slideshows [15:07] * apachelogger blogs http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/kubuntu-testing-and-you/ [15:08] shadeslayer: so do you? [15:08] apachelogger: I don't know what it's called [15:08] the ubiquity slideshows I mean [15:08] * Quintasan reads [15:08] shadeslayer: ls [15:08] whut? [15:08] ~/src/bzr/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu  ls *kubuntu* [15:08] kubuntu-slideshow.py [15:08] u so noob [15:09] oh [15:09] huh [15:13] my plymouth splash does not work on my 14.04 when I test it virtually it works fine and 13.10 on same machine works fine too - any suggestions? [15:14] define: does not work [15:17] apachelogger: how do you call it :S [15:17] I keep getting ConfigParser.NoSectionError: No section: 'Slideshow' [15:18] cannot reproduce [15:18] http://i.imgur.com/pEPAVBz.png [15:19] huh works now [15:20] apachelogger, sorry when I test I see the animation full screen and when I boot I see some ugly default kubutu 14.04 with 4 dots underneath [15:21] brb [15:22] apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/JSy7Q7L.png [15:22] better? [15:22] maybe [15:22] I dunno [15:22] you see the slides [15:22] if it looks as big as the others then it's perfect :P [15:23] yeah looks fine [15:23] apachelogger, says kubuntu 14.04 with 4 blue dots underneath [15:24] dougl: your graphics driver does not support kernel mode setting, so it cannot use the fancy splash version [15:24] nothing we can do about that [15:24] there are some workarounds to force mode setting regardless which might work, or might not work for you, google should help [15:25] works like a charm in 13.10 and yesterday in 14.04 - thanks [15:49] apachelogger: dude, changing a language takes way too much time [15:50] it's been going on for 25 minutes now [15:50] What, there's a fancy splash version? [15:52] genii: yeah :D [15:52] genii: kubuntu logo with a glow that fade's in / out [15:54] shadeslayer: I used to have that in 13.04 but for some reason it stopped after I upgraded to 13.10 ( and now 14.04). I figured it was just something with plymouth [15:55] ( and got used to watching the dots blink by.... ) [15:55] shadeslayer: perhaps your intartubes is slow [15:56] or qapt is broken [15:56] it should take exactly as long as it takes to download stuffs [15:56] apachelogger: no, it's stuck on the thing where it says "Applying changery" [15:56] shadeslayer: screenshot? [15:56] apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/LBV4dPj.png [15:57] that's not mine [15:57] that's upstreams thing [15:57] might be that kbuildsycoca crapped out or something, I am not exactly sure what the dialog does [15:57] doesn't matter, broken http://i.imgur.com/nn7ypbB.png [15:58] shadeslayer: it does matter, because I do not know how to debug this :P [15:58] perhaps gdb attach to systemsettings and try to see if there is a thread lingering [15:58] though I doubt it [15:58] or check your startkdelog for possible output [16:00] akonadi 1.11.80 going up, first part of 4.13 [16:00] what am I supposed to be looking for? [16:01] apachelogger: and can you try and reproduce it on your machine? [16:09] shadeslayer: I cannot [16:09] I do recall this happening since kde3 though [16:09] completely randomly the reload dialog will get stuck [16:10] doesn't happen all this often either [16:10] have seen it like twice ever [16:13] Riddell: libkomparediff2 still not updated [16:16] shadeslayer: where do I find it? [16:25] * Riddell uploads a new kcm-touchpad snapshot to fix kde bug 331285 [16:25] KDE bug 331285 in daemon "Touchpad kded does not work well with Touchpadenabler from KDE Workspace" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331285 [16:26] Riddell: ----> cherrypick <---- [16:28] Riddell: one just uses kubuntu-archive-upload :) [16:28] apachelogger: fyi language kcm sets language for dpkg but then forgets to unset it [16:29] hm? [16:30] apachelogger: change language to catalan -> log out -> log in -> use apt/dpkg -> change language to english -> log out -> log in -> use apt -> apt still outputs thingums in Catalan [16:31] oh la la [16:31] check yer .kde/env/setlanguage.sh [16:31] also file a bug [16:31] also I was under the impression that sometimes setlanguage is not written [16:31] I could not actively reproduce it though [16:32] apachelogger: [16:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039332/ [16:32] might be that I guess [16:32] shadeslayer: get debug logs and report bug plz [16:32] what do you want? [16:33] shadeslayer: libkomparediff2_4.12.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes uploaded [16:33] Riddell: thx [16:33] shadeslayer: get debug logs and report bug plz [16:33] apachelogger: yes, what debug logs do you want :P [16:33] kdebug debug logs [16:33] i see updates are available now :) [16:34] apachelogger: too unspecific [16:34] za kitten [16:34] kdebugdialog -> activate all [16:35] systemsettings -> regional settings -> language -> change language, change language back, change language, change language back.... [16:35] get stdout and stderr of systemsettings [16:35] save to file [16:35] report bug [16:35] attach saved file to bug [16:35] cool [16:35] assign bug to ~apachelogger [16:35] will do [16:36] apachelogger: btw any clue where one can find the dpkg exit codes? [16:37] shadeslayer: in $? [16:37] dunno, need context [16:37] no, all possible dpkg exit codes [16:37] apachelogger: apparently qaptworker calls dpkg manually internally [16:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039369 [16:38] why are you looking into that? [16:38] it's like the least high profile bug ever [16:39] and the problem isn't dpkg, see my comment [16:39] it's qapt [16:39] really? I think it's quite important when debs don't install ? :S [16:39] you didn't even manage to confirm the bug until i told you how to [16:40] besides, the solution is non-trivial [16:40] and we'd not want to mess with it past FF [16:40] oh :S [16:41] essentially the client application would have to pass the locale to the worker, via dbus [16:41] and that then raises the question what happens when more than one client is on the worker [16:43] apachelogger: got any TODO's for me then [16:43] trello? [16:44] on the note of trello [16:44] todo for trello about trello on trello: poke people to trello along their cards [16:44] there's cards in doing that have been there for like a month [16:45] will do pokery [16:50] apachelogger: rm -f /tmp/dump.tar.xz <- that should not happen, the dump name should be dependent on whatever mktmp created > Why? [16:55] Riddell: did you see knotifications was ready a bit back? or did it fail again? [16:57] apachelogger: mind uploading kwalletmanager? so that Riddell can approve from source new then [17:00] shadeslayer: mind reviewing knotifications? I think Riddell stepped away :) [17:00] sure [17:02] thanks shadeslayer, I must have missed your ping sgclark [17:02] sgclark: looks fine to me [17:02] np :) bunch of these only nneed a retry on build, just have to be done in order due to depends [17:03] sgclark: assuming it was just the last commit [17:03] needs push then, I can't do that :) [17:06] :) dolphin asks me to install stuff but it fails on 14.04 http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/05/plasma-desktopOO2341.png [17:07] => http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/05/plasma-desktopZe2341.png [17:12] Riddell: mind uploading http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/tomahawk_0.7.0+dfsg1-0ubuntu2.dsc [17:13] shadeslayer: onto it [17:13] cheers [17:13] "kubuntu_fix_plugin_install.patch" does not comply to policy! [17:13] should be kubuntu_fix-plugin-install.patch :) [17:14] "Forwarded: not-needed" I always think that should have an explanation [17:15] sigh [17:16] Riddell: or shadeslayer mind uploading knotifications, it is holding up progress [17:18] Riddell: uploaded , plz dget again [17:23] shadeslayer: pardon? what's uploaded? what should I dget? [17:23] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/tomahawk_0.7.0+dfsg1-0ubuntu2.dsc [17:23] fixed as per your suggestions [17:25] dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field [17:25] shadeslayer: I'll fix that [17:25] oh no it's not needed [17:25] Riddell: kio is ready, minor fix to dev package [17:26] shadeslayer: you onto knotifications or shall I? [17:26] shadeslayer: tomahawk uploaded! [17:26] go ahead, I have to fix some other stuff :) [17:30] shadeslayer: like the tomahawk build failures? :) [17:32] nope [17:32] and meh, ppc64el [17:33] Riddell: kwallet-framework ready [17:35] I am at a standstill until knotifications, kio, and kwallet build :) I will be back in a few! [17:39] sgclark: uploaded! [18:48] shadeslayer: update werks. [19:11] Peace-: you are using gstreamer backend ? [19:22] Quintasan: mind copying over the packages? [19:22] To PPA? [19:23] shadeslayer: urgh, kubuntu-updates or backports? [19:23] backports [19:23] * Quintasan can't never remember [19:26] soee: yep [19:29] shadeslayer: Done. [19:30] cheers [19:35] Riddell: did you upload kawallet-framework as well? still showing same failed log [20:24] apachelogger: hi. I have been discussing about localizaiton of .desktop files "Install Kubuntu" and "Kubuntu Documentation" on desktop after fresh installation as you could remember. (https://trello.com/c/Tym1s4IP/4-l10n-review-2). Why did you guys decide not to include it? Is it due to deadlines? [20:34] Peace-: switch to VLC and should work [20:34] i had the same message in Minitube [20:34] couldnt sove this :/ [20:34] after switch to VLC backend all worsk fine [20:38] apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1077196 [20:38] Launchpad bug 1077196 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "klipper does not save contents from closed windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:40] apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1281036 [20:40] Launchpad bug 1281036 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Why is kdm still depending on consolekit?" [Undecided,New] [20:40] apachelogger: please follow up [20:52] ScottK: FYI, I will sign your key if I manage to tidy up mine first. [20:53] I'm trying to get rid of unused UIDs in mine and GNUPG docs says it's better to revoke uids instead of deleting them since keyservers won't process the deletion. [20:53] Currently I can't see any gpg server saying my uids are revoked. [20:54] Mamarok: Have you seen something like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/1285729 [20:54] Launchpad bug 1285729 in amarok (Ubuntu) "amarok unable to transcode" [Undecided,Incomplete] [20:54] I left my iPod back home [20:56] Quintasan: did you do a source copy of the packages -.- [20:56] shadeslayer: not sure [20:57] Quintasan: you did :( [20:57] shadeslayer: How is that bad? [20:58] Quintasan: cuz now people will get common internals before the rest of the stack [20:58] * Quintasan recalls Launchpad rebuilding the packages if one copies them [20:58] aaah [20:58] Quintasan: you can do binary copies [20:58] It doesn't rebulid them? [20:58] nope [20:58] Like. Uh. [20:59] Why'd you do that. I can copy stuff from Trusty to Saucy or even earlier. [20:59] This is potentially broken [20:59] sure [20:59] Quintasan: prevents situation that I outlined earlier [20:59] Hmm, my bad anyways. [20:59] and since PPA's don't have a -proposed pocket ... [20:59] Not going to argue about that. [21:00] Quintasan: I'll send the grumpy users your way :P [21:00] Okay. [21:02] ScottK: Okay, seems like the servers finally registered my changes, you probably want to see them. If that breaks the chain of trust then I'm probably better off not signing your key. [21:09] Quintasan: Your call. [21:10] I'm not an expert on this whole stuff but it looks like I rekoved my signature on the uid so theoretically that should not break it. [21:14] Christ this is too complicated [21:20] Quintasan: The question is if you trust my signed mail enough to sign the new key based on it. [21:21] Your key status shouldn't matter. You just sign it with your current key if you chose to. [21:22] ScottK: No problems on my end. I'll just get my key sorted out first and sign yours. [21:23] shadeslayer: thatis a packaging isuse: we depend on ffmpeg, that should be automatically dragged (or its replacement libav) when the user installs Amarok [21:23] only reported on Debian and its spinoffs, as they don't use ffmpeg but libav instead IIRC [21:23] mhm [21:24] since that is in our readme, the packagers should package accordingly if the distro doesn't use ffmpeg [21:24] so definitely not an upstream isuse [21:24] Mamarok: gotcha [21:24] ususe* [21:24] you are welcome :) [21:24] thx [21:25] * shadeslayer gets cracking on a fix [21:25] Amarok's bug entries on Launchpad are just a tiny bit cleaner now :P [21:27] why are they actually reported on Launchpad? Shouldn't those go upstream by default? [21:27] except this one, of course :) [21:28] Mamarok: because, humans [21:29] true, that, especially when it comes to bug reports :) [21:31] hmmm [21:31] ScottK: how does one solve this :P [21:31] ScottK: transcoding libs required by amarok are in multiverse [21:31] install libav? [21:32] Mamarok: multiverse [21:32] that should be in universe, no? [21:32] !info libfaac0 [21:32] libfaac0 (source: faac): AAC audio encoder (library). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.28-5 (saucy), package size 37 kB, installed size 109 kB [21:32] what about ffmpeg? [21:33] not sure we have those [21:34] indeed, but it is not libaac you need but libav [21:35] though isn't libaac something that would required at runtime to transcode things? [21:36] I don't think we transcode to that [21:36] readme mentions it :P [21:36] we transcode mp3, ogg and flac AFAIK [21:37] I reckon we can ship libavbin0 [21:37] hm, I didn't even check readme right now, stated from memory [21:37] which is treacherous :) [21:42] ScottK: Would you like your signature to be sent to all of your emails or the first one? [21:52] Quintasan: All. [21:53] ScottK: done. [21:53] Thanks. [21:53] shadeslayer: Is it needed in build-deps or just at runtime? [21:53] ScottK: runtime [21:54] shadeslayer: Make it suggests in the package and then add the needed package to kubuntu-restricted-extras (if we still have such a thing) [21:54] ScottK: so the libs I can figure out from the readme are : libvorbisenc2 libvorbis0a libavbin0 ( probably) libmp3lame [21:54] isn't lame only needed for writing to CDs? [21:55] Mamarok: just following the README :D [21:55] I know, just surprised that we would need lame [21:57] I also see something for wma, but can [21:57] *can't find a package for that [22:37] how's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8 [22:45] * Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8 [22:45] Great. [22:46] yofel, shadeslayer: can has p-n meeting this weekend? [22:47] you may want to invite apachelogger as he's been doing most of the kf5 stuff [22:47] apachelogger: feel invited [22:47] shadeslayer: btw. debian bug 729203 for your entertainment [22:47] Debian bug 729203 in wnpp "ITP: ffmpeg -- complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/729203 [22:47] what [22:48] is that [22:48] in case you didn't see it yet [22:49] >The only way to prevent endless discussions would be if you close this [22:49] RFP and instead send a bug to the Debian Technical Committee [1] for a [22:49] technical decision whether jessie should ship with libav or ffmpeg. [22:49] OH MY GOD [22:49] I like can see it happening. [22:49] Tell me it did [22:50] not sure what'll happen, I think the security team was against it at some point [22:50] they don't want to maintain 2 copies of (not really) the same thing [22:51] and users don't want inferior software [22:52] the plan so far is to at least get the binaries back so 'ffmpeg' etc. work again - statically linked maybe or whatever [22:55] brb [22:58] yofel: Truth be told I didn't know Debian did sth like this and I've been thinking ffmpeg is really deprecated. [22:59] heh, it's confusing really :( [23:01] Quintasan: Thanks. Accepted and uploaded to the keyserver. [23:02] yofel: It sucks to be honest. [23:02] yofel: When libav was forked from ffmpeg, the Debian maintainer was one of the proponents of the fork, so it's no surprise that's the one we have. [23:03] right [23:04] >Also Debian's very own ABI checking program icheck has some bugs, ironically, on testing FFmpeg [23:04] Comedy level - libav. [23:04] ScottK: Why did the split actually happen? [23:05] The story as I heard if (from the libav side) was that the lead ffmpeg guy was blocking stuff going in, so they finally said "screw it, we'll fork". [23:05] Of course, as soon as they announced the fork, he started grabbing patches from the fork. [23:06] But they weren't exactly anxious to work with the guy anymore. [23:06] oh wow. [23:06] AIUI, anyway [23:15] ScottK: "The current PyQt5, PyQt4, QScintilla and SIP snapshots are all release candidates. The final releases will be in about a week. In the meantime any testing would be greatly appreciated." [23:15] says pyqt man on the pyqt list [23:15] Riddell: I saw that. [23:15] First let's get Qt5 5.2 landed with pyqt5.2 updated. [23:47] * ahoneybun installs kubuntu-desktop package in Ubuntu [23:54] weeee, I haz 4.12.3 [23:54] apachelogger: your "you need more language stuffs" looks and works great [23:54] \o/ [23:58] * ahoneybun knows nothing of this