[00:01] <vinnie_> the splash screen is ok when selecting try lubuntu. Its after the splash screen that gives the problem.
[00:02] <wxl> vinnie_: did you try nomodeset?
[00:08] <vinnie_> wxl: yes. now its all garbled and quadrupled at top and very small
[00:09] <wxl> vinnie_: ok, gimme your video card info (lspci | grep VGA)
[00:09] <vinnie_> wxl: how can i get a terminal?
[00:10] <wxl> vinnie_: try ctrl-alt-f1
[00:10] <ianorlin> pressing control alt t also opens one up in the x windows
[00:10] <ianorlin> but that may be tiny
[00:11] <vinnie_> wxl, ianorlin: from the selection screen where i choose try or install, etc...???
[00:11] <wxl> vinnie_: any
[00:13] <vinnie_> wxl: wont let me
[00:13] <vinnie_> wxl: i dont think its possible from that disks boot screen
[00:13] <ianorlin> is this alternate installer?
[00:13] <vinnie_> ianorlin: no
[00:14] <vinnie_> ianorlin: lubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso
[00:15] <wxl> vinnie_: you need to select either try or install. did you do trhat first?
[00:15] <vinnie_> wxl: yes
[00:16] <wxl> vinnie_: whnat operating system do you have on there now?
[00:16] <vinnie_> wxl: xp home
[00:17] <wxl> vinnie_: do you know what video card you have? i guess you could kind of get at it with xp.
[00:17] <vinnie_> wxl: let me try booting another live linux disk. brb
[00:32] <vinnie_> wxl: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage Pro Ulta TF
[00:33] <vinnie_> wxl: had to use knopix to get that info
[00:44] <vinnie_> wxl: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage 128 Pro Ulta TF
[00:58] <wxl> vinnie_: what driver are you using in knoppix? lspci -vvnn | less and then /VGA to get to the right section
[01:00] <basketball> how do i set my pc up where when i press alt then a letter it types the spanish version of the letter   like in windows
[01:01] <wxl> vinnie_: also it would be good to know the id on that (e.g. 1002:4336)
[01:02] <wxl> vinnie_: you should need xserver-xorg-video-r128
[01:02] <wxl> basketball: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[01:04] <basketball> wxl,  i am using 13.10
[01:05] <wxl> basketball: doesn't matter which version you have
[01:05] <basketball> wxl,  i dont have a layouts tab ubuntu 13.10
[01:06] <wxl> basketball: read past the parts that aren't relevant to you (e.g. ubuntu, xubuntu, and kde)
[01:07] <basketball> that is confusing what do i do
[01:08] <wxl> basketball: wish i had time to help you out further, but i've got work to do. that's your key to what you want, though.
[01:08] <basketball> wxl,  what can i google
[01:09] <basketball> !coposite keys
[01:09] <wxl> basketball: you can start here and read until the end https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey#Keys
[01:10] <basketball> wxl what is altgr
[01:11] <wxl> basketball: whatever you define it as
[01:11] <basketball> where do i define it
[01:11] <wxl> it's the composekey
[01:11] <wxl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73903/compose-key-in-lxde
[01:18] <basketball> i got it wxl  is there a table of ones for spanish
[01:19] <basketball> like shift rightalt tide n for ñ
[01:23] <wxl> basketball: it was linked at the bottom of that page i sent, but https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=compose%20key%20&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CDkQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hermit.org%2FLinux%2FComposeKeys.html&ei=inwWU6jFIo_uoATkgIKICA&usg=AFQjCNGAyewrI63RtRixAXN_WDE92lZMEw&bvm=bv.62286460,d.cGU
[02:31] <basketball> hey does gnome-screensaver actually have a screensaver or does it just turn a grey screen
[02:36] <holstein> basketball: ?
[02:36] <holstein> basketball: you should be able to find screenshots of it online
[02:37] <holstein> basketball: its a screensaver, as advertised.. one can set it to save many ways
[02:37] <basketball> holstein,  i want to set up a screenserver without using xscreenserver
[02:37] <holstein> basketball: go for it
[02:38] <basketball> what do i do holstein
[02:40] <holstein> basketball: ?
[02:40] <basketball> how do i set it up
[02:40] <holstein> basketball: do what you like.. open the package manager of your choice and install what you please
[02:40] <holstein> basketball: set what up? they will all be different
[02:40] <basketball> how do i add a screensaver
[02:41] <holstein> basketball: you choose what you want to use, install it, and configure it based on its documentation
[02:41] <basketball> what are my options
[02:41] <basketball> !screensaver
[02:42] <holstein> basketball: thre are bunch, friend
[02:42] <holstein> basketball: are you searching synaptic?
[02:42] <basketball> you could have been done already if you told me
[02:43] <holstein> basketball: i could have been done with what? if i had told you what?
[02:43] <holstein> basketball: just ask if you have a question.. try and be clear as possible, and keep in mind im a volunteer
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> basketball: Also are you asking about a screen *saver* or a display *server*?
[02:44] <basketball> what program besides xscreensaver can i install for a screensaver like when my screen is idle it kicks in
[02:44] <basketball> and shows like the ubuntu logo spinning like in windows
[02:45] <holstein> basketball: i stated, there are many, friend
[02:45] <basketball> list please
[02:45] <holstein> basketball: you should open the application manage of your choice and search, and see what is there
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> basketball: A couple of examples are gnome-screensaver and light-locker (the latter of which requires a !PPA)
[02:45] <basketball> some of them
[02:46] <holstein> basketball: that ^ is how to optain the list
[02:46] <holstein> basketball: using soemthing like synaptic.. or "apt-cache search screensaver" in the terminal
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> basketball: Open Synaptic or Lubuntu Software Center (or even Ubuntu Software Center if you installed it) and search
[05:27] <cdoublejj> what version Open GL will Lubuntu 14.04 LTS be running?
[05:30] <ianorlin> The same version as ubuntu
[05:34] <cdoublejj> what version open gl does ubuntu 14.04 use?
[05:41] <ianorlin> I think it is 3.3
[05:44] <cdoublejj> damn not even 4.0 yet ?
[05:44] <cdoublejj> even osx upgraded ogl
[05:45] <ianorlin> at least not in open source drivers
[05:45] <cdoublejj> ooohhhhhhh
[05:45] <ianorlin> the binary drivers have a lot more recent stuff
[05:45] <cdoublejj> that makes a big difference
[05:45] <ianorlin> but the open source ones will be the ones on the disk \
[05:46] <cdoublejj> most gamers get the nvidia drivers
[05:46] <cdoublejj> and i guess ATI/AMD
[05:47] <cdoublejj> i hear talk valve help AMD better their drivers some but, in general AMD has shite software, there aren't as big as intel or nvidia
[05:52] <ianorlin> I only have intel but don't do that much gaming
[05:54] <cdoublejj> fairly sure they have helped intel up there drives, the phoronix benchmark of 14.04 shows a up to a 10FPS improvement on intel HD
[18:02] <leszek> hi
[18:08] <ianorlin> hi
[21:54] <basketball> holstein,  how do i sync the caps lock light on laptop and external keyboard
[22:09] <basketball> when i press caps lock on my laptop how do i get the caps light lock to show up on usb keybopard and vice versa
[22:33] <genii> That's actually an interesting question to try and solve.
[22:35] <Unit193> Getting the LEDs to reflect what's actually toggled in the system isn't as easy as windows, right.  Scroll lock won't even work without fixing, fresh installs.
[22:38] <genii> Hm.
[22:39] <phillw> hmm, mine work fine on my PB laptop... I also have keyboard LED settings installed on my task bar :)
[22:41] <genii> Currently on my Kubuntu the keys on the external USB make the main laptop ones light but the reverse isn't true
[22:41] <genii> Interesting.
[22:43] <phillw> genii: let me grab the usb keyboard (not even sure if it has LEDs :) )
[22:44] <genii> I just find it one of these intriguing little puzzles.
[22:45] <phillw> it has
[22:45] <phillw> hello from  usb keyboard
[22:48]  * genii waves
[22:50] <phillw> genii: the keyboard can set itself and laptop to num-lock and cap lock. However, this shows on keyboard led settings module. If I set num-lock on with the laptop, the led on usb keyboard does not light (laptop does) however it is activated. Same as if I set on the usb keyboard.. led lights but not laptop LED.... So, I guess the answer is to add Keyboard LED settings to your task bar, as it reports correctly which ever keyboard sets caps / num lock :)
[22:51] <genii> phillw: I'll add that to my little black book of notes :)
[22:51] <phillw> afaik the led monitor actually checks what the system is using, not which keyboard set it :P
[22:52] <phillw> I think it is new for 14.04 (i'd never seen it before)
[22:57] <genii> I wonder if the actual lighting of the LED on the keyboard is done in the hardware of the specific keyboard. But then how could BIOS have a setting like NumLock on/off ?
[22:59] <Unit193> genii: Throw VNC into the mix, and with the right timing you can de-sync the LEDs entirely.
[23:00] <phillw> Unit193: btw, did you get the email okay?
[23:00] <Unit193> phillw: Heh, pinged as I was reading it, danke.
[23:01] <phillw> i've popped on here as bodhi is doing horrible things to an innocent alternate ISO :P
[23:35] <basketball> how do i sync the caps lock num lock and scroll lock lights on laptop and usb keyboard