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| MavKen | I have 13.10... How can I clear the list of "recent servers" when going through the files manager? | 02:35 |
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| robert_ancell | cyphermox, has there been any though given to implementing WPS in NetworkManager / the indicators? | 02:37 |
| desrt | robert_ancell: this is that push-to-autoconfig stuff? | 02:42 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, yes | 02:44 |
| robert_ancell | I started using it a few weeks ago and it's actually very handy, especially when using a phone | 02:45 |
| desrt | seems like it would be more useful for devices lacking a proper keyboard | 02:45 |
| desrt | never thought about applying it to a laptop | 02:45 |
| desrt | still seems like it would be nice, though | 02:46 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, it's particularly handy in the case you go to someones house where they're technically illiterate and they can't remember their router password | 02:47 |
| desrt | ya.... i actually experience this a lot | 02:47 |
| desrt | "oh... let me get out this book i wrote it in... no.. it's on this other piece... oh no... that was with my old provider.... hmmm... it's around here somewhere" | 02:48 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, btw, still having that dbus unown name issue. I've cleaned up everything around the issue but haven't found what's causing it | 02:48 |
| desrt | remind me? | 02:48 |
| robert_ancell | it seems the call is timing out (takes exactly 25s) but no errors are printed which makes me think glib thinks it has succeeded | 02:48 |
| robert_ancell | in one of the test cases in lightdm, g_bus_unown_name blocks for 25s on shutdown | 02:49 |
| robert_ancell | you thought it might be due to multiprocess screw ups, so I made really really sure I wasn't doing anything bad there | 02:49 |
| desrt | ah right. i remember now. | 02:50 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, are you still hacking at the moment? | 02:50 |
| desrt | ish... | 02:50 |
| desrt | tending to builds, etc. | 02:50 |
| desrt | trying to test some touch issues in gtk | 02:50 |
| robert_ancell | feel like giving it a whirl locally? | 02:50 |
| desrt | do i need ubuntu? :) | 02:50 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, no | 02:51 |
| robert_ancell | you need bzr though | 02:51 |
| desrt | i think i can manage that :) | 02:51 |
| robert_ancell | it's just get lp:lightdm, build then run ./test-unity-compositor-fallback from tests/ | 02:51 |
| robert_ancell | it fails for me most of the time | 02:51 |
| robert_ancell | you can cut down that test to make it simpler to see what lightdm is doing, but perhaps you'll see more looking from the glib end | 02:52 |
| desrt | so that didn't work very well | 02:58 |
| desrt | gimme a sec | 02:58 |
| desrt | your autogen doesn't bail out when it's missing stuff for some reason | 02:58 |
| desrt | k. here goes. | 02:59 |
| desrt | so the test failed... immediately | 02:59 |
| desrt | lightdm: symbol lookup error: lightdm: undefined symbol: g_hash_table_get_keys_as_array | 03:00 |
| desrt | neat... | 03:00 |
| desrt | are you mucking with LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your test setup? | 03:01 |
| desrt | yes... you are | 03:01 |
| desrt | this is not jhbuild-compatible :) | 03:01 |
| desrt | okay... now the test exits immediately with no error and status 0 | 03:02 |
| desrt | robert_ancell: i guess you missed that... | 03:05 |
| robert_ancell_ | desrt, try running it a few times, or with DEBUG=1 in the env | 03:07 |
| desrt | the amazing never-failing testcase :) | 03:08 |
| robert_ancell_ | I wish | 03:08 |
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| desrt | it's going in a tight while true; ... loop | 03:08 |
| desrt | no failures after what must have been 1000 runs | 03:08 |
| desrt | okay... maybe more like 100 :) | 03:09 |
| desrt | hah! failure! | 03:10 |
| desrt | but uh... not the one you were expecting | 03:10 |
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| desrt | UNITY-SYSTEM-COMPOSITOR EXIT CODE=1 | 03:10 |
| desrt | RUNNER DAEMON-TERMINATE SIGNAL=11 | 03:10 |
| desrt | took a few hundred runs to get that though | 03:10 |
| robert_ancell | no, that's not the one I was expecting :/ | 03:10 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, did you try with DEBUG=1? | 03:12 |
| desrt | yes | 03:13 |
| desrt | no change except that it took longer to run with all the output | 03:13 |
| desrt | i ran maybe 100 tries like that and then tried with it off | 03:14 |
| robert_ancell | maybe it is specific to something in Ubuntu | 03:15 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, what version of glib? | 03:15 |
| desrt | git master as of a couple hours ago | 03:15 |
| desrt | i don't think we've made substantial gdbus changes lately, though | 03:15 |
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| cyphermox | robert_ancell: it's in the TODO file in NM | 03:16 |
| robert_ancell | cyphermox, yeah, that's what I found. I was wondering if there's been any more thought on it | 03:17 |
| robert_ancell | I'd kind of like to implement that for 14.10 if no-one else would | 03:17 |
| cyphermox | not really that I know of | 03:17 |
| cyphermox | I have lots of plans for 14.10 re: network-manager and all | 03:17 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 06:03 |
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| tsdgeos | do you guys know what is the responsible of showing me the dialogs to enter my ssh passphrase? it's broken since yesterday | 08:20 |
| tsdgeos | the buttons show over the line edit | 08:20 |
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| mlankhorst | wayland-egl | 09:02 |
| mlankhorst | seb128: it should be part of libegl1-mesa-dev | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey ho | 09:05 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, how are you? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, well, g-c-c fails to build, so something went wrong in your upload | 09:08 |
| mlankhorst | oh right | 09:10 |
| mlankhorst | must be some incomplete reverts | 09:10 |
| mlankhorst | hm it's in libegl1-mesa-drivers | 09:10 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, hey Laney | 09:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ça va ? | 09:12 |
| Laney | alright thanks seb128, enjoyed some tasty pancakes yesterday ;-) | 09:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, how as the Alps? | 09:12 |
| mlankhorst | oh right | 09:12 |
| Laney | how are you seb128 & mlankhorst & pitti? | 09:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, I enjoyed "beignets", we don't do pancakes here ;-) | 09:12 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks! | 09:12 |
| * Laney goodles that | 09:13 | |
| pitti | seb128: ça va bien, merci ! nous avons eu un bon weekend longue dans les Alps | 09:13 |
| Laney | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BeignetsPowderdSugarCDM.jpg | 09:13 |
| Laney | oh my god | 09:13 |
| Laney | I bet yours looked better than that | 09:13 |
| seb128 | lol, they did | 09:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, "les Alpes" in french ;-) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, tu as fait du ski ? | 09:14 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, merci | 09:14 |
| pitti | seb128: oui, la première (et peut-être la derniére) fois à cet an | 09:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, pourquoi peut-être la dernière, l'hiver est pas fini et il y en a de nouveau un hiver à la fin de l'année ! | 09:16 |
| pitti | seb128: en effet, je voulais "ce hiver" :) | 09:16 |
| seb128 | ah ;-) | 09:17 |
| pitti | seb128: mais à Augsburg nous n'avons pas un vrai hiver | 09:17 |
| seb128 | nous non plus | 09:17 |
| seb128 | 10°c de prévu aujourd'hui :/ | 09:17 |
| pitti | nous avons eu de la neige pendant une ou deux semaines ici | 09:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, that looks like the beignets we get, http://wherewearinthecity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/beignets.jpg | 09:18 |
| pitti | yummy! | 09:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, nous pas de neige cette année :-( | 09:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you guys do pancakes or beignets this week? | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: we have something called "Krapfen", like this: http://www.maintal-konfitueren.de/fileadmin/data/images/Downloadbereich/Ambiente/krapfen_frei_gross.jpg | 09:19 |
| jodh | has something changed recently wrt how the desktop initiates shutdown (ck -> logind)? We have a few reports of users being unable to shutdown/reboot from the menu (bugs 1288087, 1286986, 1286698). | 09:19 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1288087 in upstart (Ubuntu) "System menu for Restart & Shutdown no longer works after installing Office 2010 through Wine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1288087 | 09:19 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1286986 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Dropping to commandline is the only way to shutdown or restart" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286986 | 09:19 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1286698 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Logout, Restart & Shutdown does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286698 | 09:20 |
| pitti | seb128: not entirely unlike beignets | 09:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, I see ;-) | 09:20 |
| pitti | we ate 2 of them yesterday for the carnival | 09:20 |
| seb128 | nice | 09:20 |
| pitti | I don't like all the rest of carnival, except the Krapfen :) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | jodh, hey, no change that I can think about | 09:20 |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:21 |
| jodh | seb128: hmm, ok. maybe be a hardware issue for those folk, but the timing of those bugs suggests maybe something else might be involved. | 09:21 |
| seb128 | jodh, the bugs 2-3 are from the same user | 09:22 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:22 |
| seb128 | they are all 3 from the same user | 09:22 |
| jodh | seb128: gah - hadn't noticed that! good catch :) | 09:22 |
| jodh | ftr, are we using ck or logind atm? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | jodh, that one user has a local problem | 09:23 |
| seb128 | logind | 09:23 |
| jodh | ok, I'll see if they can invoke PowerOff using dbus-send. | 09:23 |
| seb128 | jodh, the "upstart-event-bridge.log" snipet in the bug summary has | 09:24 |
| seb128 | process 1206: arguments to dbus_pending_call_unref() were incorrect, assertion "pending != NULL" failed in file ../../dbus/dbus-pending-call.c line 608. | 09:24 |
| pitti | jodh: we've been using logind since saucy; CK is gone | 09:24 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's a sign something is wrong with the bus session | 09:24 |
| jodh | pitti: I've got /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon running on my system still. | 09:25 |
| jodh | pitti: looks like it is a dep for kde still. | 09:26 |
| seb128 | jodh, feel free to dup those 3 bugs and reassign to unity or gnome-session | 09:27 |
| jodh | seb128: thanks - will do. | 09:28 |
| hyperair | hey did unity get reverted to a version before saucy or something? | 09:35 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: sorry for the UNRELEASED thing -- thats was of ocurse the line I changed, when I changed the version to ~trusty1 for the PPA :/ | 09:35 |
| hyperair | the super and alt key handling seems to be back to the crappy pre-saucy timeout-based version | 09:35 |
| hyperair | so if i press super+w and release it really quickly, unity opens the dash instead | 09:35 |
| hyperair | and if i hit alt+anything and release both keys really quickly, the HUD opens up | 09:36 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, no worry | 09:36 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: do we need a MIR for it? or is "all binary packages from libreoffice-dictionaires were in main before from openoffice.org-dictionaires and are from the same codebase?" enough? | 09:37 |
| seb128 | hyperair, no unity changes to those that I know, check with bregma or ChrisTownsend or Trevinho | 09:37 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, check with doko or mterry or didrocks, but I think it should be ok/considered as a rename of an existing source | 09:38 |
| hyperair | well, i guess they all got pinged by that comment so i'll wait | 09:38 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: k | 09:39 |
| seb128 | hyperair, when did the issue start? | 09:39 |
| hyperair | seb128: after i upgraded to trusty | 09:39 |
| hyperair | seb128: so it's between the saucy version and the trusty version =\ | 09:40 |
| hyperair | (and i only upgraded two days ago) | 09:40 |
| seb128 | k | 09:40 |
| seb128 | well, we had some changes in grabbing, compiz is now grabbing the g-s-d keybindings (same way gnome-shell is doing for GNOME) | 09:41 |
| hyperair | i see | 09:41 |
| seb128 | but that shouldn't impact on super/hud, though I'm unsure | 09:41 |
| hyperair | i recall the super/alt key handling was pretty bad in raring or before that | 09:41 |
| hyperair | basically ctrl+super keybindings required you to press ctrl first | 09:41 |
| hyperair | same goes for alt+super keybindings | 09:42 |
| seb128 | I never use super out of for the dash so I can't say | 09:42 |
| hyperair | sigh | 09:42 |
| seb128 | and I map the hud out of alt | 09:42 |
| hyperair | heh i see | 09:42 |
| hyperair | what do you map it to? | 09:42 |
| seb128 | right-win key | 09:42 |
| hyperair | ah blragh i don't have that key | 09:43 |
| seb128 | you use the hud? | 09:43 |
| seb128 | if not you can just unbind it :p | 09:43 |
| hyperair | yeah i do | 09:43 |
| seb128 | k | 09:43 |
| hyperair | adn my laptop doesn't have many spare keys to bind things to | 09:44 |
| seb128 | well, in any case we should fix the regression | 09:44 |
| seb128 | but meanwhile... | 09:44 |
| hyperair | hence why i'm using all sorts of ctrl+super keybindings | 09:44 |
| Laney | oh yeah I can see what you see | 09:44 |
| hyperair | i think i filed a bug regarding ctrl+super | 09:44 |
| Laney | super+w, release really quickly → dash | 09:44 |
| hyperair | yeah | 09:44 |
| hyperair | sucketh | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | there are also various problems with alt/hud/screenshot etc | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | if you pres alt+printscreen fast enough it opens the hud and then takes a screenshot of it | 09:45 |
| seb128 | ali1234, new in trusty? | 09:45 |
| hyperair | it's been almost a year since i dug into unity's code, but at that time the super/alt handling was basically... listen for super, and watch (within a certain timeout) for recognized keys) | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | i dunno if they are new or not since i don't use unity and when i did i unbound alt and super anyway | 09:45 |
| seb128 | we need more keys on keyboard :p | 09:46 |
| hyperair | and then saucy came along and holy shit it was fixed | 09:46 |
| ali1234 | bug 1283530 | 09:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1283530 in unity (Ubuntu) "Using alt-printscreen when locally integrated menus is turned on creates undesirable results" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283530 | 09:46 |
| hyperair | and now it's back ¬_¬ | 09:46 |
| seb128 | I wonder if it ever got fixes | 09:46 |
| * apw notes that he can only disable the HUD binding in settings, if it is buond to _any_ key then Alt responds to it, it is also impossible to rebind it to Alt_L or indeed any modifier | 09:46 | |
| seb128 | fixed | 09:46 |
| seb128 | or if that's random behaviour and you just happened to get lucky with timings | 09:46 |
| hyperair | wat, seriously? | 09:46 |
| hyperair | how many things got hardcoded shittily in the unity codebase this time? | 09:47 |
| hyperair | it was a nightmare of hardcoded behaviour the last time i looked | 09:47 |
| seb128 | ? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | apw, I can't confirm that, I just binded it to lctrl, then back to alt than to the win key | 09:47 |
| apw | seb128, one of these boxes i updated not 20m ago, and it is definatly exhibiting this behaviour | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks had similar issues but not happening in a guest session | 09:49 |
| apw | seb128, and i have two next to each otehr showing it, both upgrades from saucy and likely older | 09:49 |
| seb128 | yeah, well, it's not that I don't believe you | 09:49 |
| seb128 | it's just that I can't confirm/reproduce | 09:49 |
| apw | so where are the "unity settings which it doesn't ever upgrade properly" so i can nuke them | 09:49 |
| seb128 | why is this morning turning into "report my issues about unity", we don't even work on unity in this channel :p | 09:49 |
| seb128 | people, please use launchpad | 09:50 |
| hyperair | :P | 09:50 |
| hyperair | whoops, sorry for starting it | 09:50 |
| seb128 | or ping #ubuntu-unity when the unity7 are around | 09:50 |
| Laney | let's talk about how indicators don't start properly under panel instead :P | 09:50 |
| seb128 | e.g bregma or ChrisTownsend or Trevinho might be able to help you, but I don't think any of them is around yet | 09:50 |
| Laney | or why my machine died overnight so I don't have webkit debs :( | 09:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, 0_o | 09:51 |
| seb128 | webkit 10 - 3 Laney | 09:51 |
| seb128 | (or I lost the count but I think webkit is still winning this cycle :p) | 09:51 |
| apw | seb128, cause filing bugs is for whimps | 09:52 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:52 |
| Laney | yeah, never take webkit on | 09:52 |
| Laney | you'll lose | 09:52 |
| hyperair | can't be as bad as building a kernel | 09:52 |
| hyperair | i had to iterate with a PPA because i kept ENOSPC'ing while building it | 09:52 |
| apw | seb128, did yo manage to put the key back to Alt-l btw as in a guest i could move it to anywhere like Alt_R ok but not back to Alt_L | 09:53 |
| seb128 | apw, you don't file bugs and then your issues never get resolved :p (I'm still thinking I should file you about my latitude locking for 1 second every time I change the screen level through the keys) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | things were so much nicer in precise when that was not happening | 09:53 |
| * seb128 shakes fist at the kernel | 09:53 | |
| Laney | haha | 09:53 |
| hyperair | might be a unity bug for all we know ¬_¬" | 09:54 |
| Laney | hyperair: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.13.0-16.36/+build/5659613 vs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkitgtk/2.3.90-1ubuntu1/+build/5619705 | 09:54 |
| seb128 | apw, I managed to put it back to alt_r but the ui calls that "mod2+alt_l" for some reason, it works though | 09:54 |
| apw | seb128, what about Alt_L | 09:54 |
| seb128 | that says "level3 shift" | 09:54 |
| hyperair | Laney: holy shit | 09:55 |
| apw | seb128, mine calls Alt_R something like level3_shift | 09:55 |
| Laney | it's extreme | 09:55 |
| Laney | also C++ | 09:55 |
| seb128 | but yeah, that doesn't work (hud doesn't open) | 09:55 |
| hyperair | but C++ is good! | 09:55 |
| hyperair | Laney: https://launchpad.net/~hyperair/+archive/staging/+build/5365404 | 09:55 |
| hyperair | close enough ;-) | 09:55 |
| Laney | heh | 09:56 |
| Laney | don't let Sweetshark hear this conversation | 09:56 |
| hyperair | pinging helps, yeah. | 09:56 |
| Laney | O:-) | 09:56 |
| hyperair | ^_^ | 09:57 |
| * Laney tries again... | 09:57 | |
| Laney | in the meantime, lemme see why the ubuntu-sso-client autopkgtests are borked | 09:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, if you want to look at aptdaemon as well, please do ;-) (tried to ping mvo about those without luck) | 09:59 |
| Laney | seb128: ok, I'll look after | 10:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 10:02 |
| Laney | might be hard though, those mvo tests tend to be complex ;-) | 10:02 |
| * Sweetshark hugs mterry (in absence) for apppoving the hunspell-fr and google-fonts MIRs. | 10:05 | |
| apw | seb128, just for you i have filed a bug and whined at #ubuntu-unity | 10:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, update_output has | 10:08 |
| seb128 | "Trying easy from laney: ubuntu-settings/14.04.4 gnome-session/3.9.90-0ubuntu11 | 10:08 |
| seb128 | leading: ubuntu-settings,gnome-session | 10:08 |
| seb128 | failed: ubuntu-settings" | 10:08 |
| seb128 | apw, thanks | 10:08 |
| Laney | it's just an old hint | 10:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, can you clear it off? ;-) | 10:09 |
| Laney | yes, but it is harmless | 10:09 |
| seb128 | k, noted for next time | 10:09 |
| seb128 | I didn't know that hints were generating output when they had no matching content ;-) | 10:09 |
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| Laney | yeah it's telling you that it couldn't be applied | 10:10 |
| seb128 | k | 10:10 |
| Laney | removed it now, thanks for the pointer | 10:10 |
| seb128 | yw! | 10:10 |
| seb128 | apw, do you know if my issue of "computer 'hangs' for a second every time you change the screen level through the keys" (latitude e6410) is a known kernel issue? | 10:11 |
| seb128 | I should probably report a bug about that as well | 10:11 |
| * seb128 looks in launchpad | 10:11 | |
| apw | seb128, nope not heard of that, you should file a bug indeed | 10:36 |
| mlankhorst | oh you're already rebuilding gcc? | 10:41 |
| seb128 | yes, why not? | 10:42 |
| * Laney hugs pitti for adt-run --apt-source | 10:44 | |
| Laney | alioth is down which breaks run-adt-test here but this with adt-virt-schroot is nice | 10:45 |
| pitti | ali1234: how does alioth break run-adt-tesZ? | 10:46 |
| Laney | me | 10:46 |
| Laney | it tries to check something out | 10:46 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, run-adt-test and prepare-testbed will go away, in favor of adt-virt-{lxc,qemu} | 10:46 |
| pitti | ah | 10:46 |
| Laney | I think autopkgtest itself? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw, just as fyi https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725390#c4 | 10:47 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 725390 in daemon "ipod displayed with an usb key icon" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you know what would be the right place for a such "udev quirk that tells udisks the icon to use"? | 10:47 |
| seb128 | is udisks shipping some of those? | 10:48 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so your ipod doesn't use afc | 10:48 |
| seb128 | no | 10:48 |
| seb128 | it's an old classic-storage one | 10:48 |
| pitti | seb128: I thought we have some hack which assigns the new icon to devices with ID_MEDIA_PLAYER | 10:48 |
| seb128 | right, we had | 10:48 |
| pitti | seb128: does your device still have that tag? | 10:48 |
| seb128 | but that stopped working with the new gvfs | 10:48 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:48 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so we probably dropped that hack at some point | 10:48 |
| seb128 | it seems like you dropped it because the issue was resolved upstream | 10:49 |
| seb128 | but they did some refactoring for symbolic icons and other stuff then | 10:49 |
| pitti | ah no, this is supposed to be fixed upstream | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, our patch was against the gdu backend | 10:49 |
| seb128 | they might have dropped the hack, which wouldn't be suprising if e.g bastien thinks that should be done in a quirk and not in code | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: right, the upstream solution wasn't a hack any more | 10:50 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll have a look in some mins, just finishing something else | 10:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, k, let me know if you need debug infos from me | 10:50 |
| * pitti still fighting the backlog from the long weekend, and people broke stuff all over the place :) | 10:50 | |
| seb128 | Laney, why do you need a ffe for pango? isn't that a point/bugfix release? | 11:03 |
| Laney | to add the new package | 11:03 |
| seb128 | oh, I should have read all the description :p | 11:03 |
| seb128 | cool | 11:03 |
| Laney | just noticed they fail in debian | 11:08 |
| Laney | glib too :( | 11:08 |
| seb128 | :-( | 11:09 |
| Laney | just a missing test-dep though it seems | 11:09 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~matttbe/ubuntu/trusty/network-manager-applet/lp1267100/+merge/200825 ? | 11:42 |
| seb128 | happyaron, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-anthy/+bug/1279845 still on your todolist? | 11:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1279845 in ibus-anthy (Ubuntu) "ibus-anthy sets to jp keyboard layout forcibly." [Undecided,New] | 11:45 |
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| larsu | Laney: do you know why we have custom encoding profiles for rhythmbox? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/rhythmbox/ubuntu/revision/178 | 12:36 |
| larsu | people say they break cd ripping for them in bug #1086806 | 12:36 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1086806 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox encoder missing plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086806 | 12:36 |
| larsu | and I get emailed because "I've touched rhythmbox last" | 12:36 |
| Laney | People were complaining that the defaults were crappy for ripping, so some guy came with these new ones | 12:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, look at the bug referenced in that commit | 12:38 |
| larsu | ah I overlooked that there was a reference. Thanks! | 12:40 |
| Laney | I'm not sure it was ever completely right | 12:40 |
| seb128 | it might be that things got fixed/made different upstream since and that those changes are not needed anymore, not sure | 12:41 |
| Laney | in fact | 12:41 |
| Laney | nm | 12:42 |
| larsu | no, it's not upstream | 12:42 |
| larsu | the problem is that I can't test it | 12:43 |
| larsu | but having cd ripping broken by default sounds quite ... bad | 12:43 |
| seb128 | no CD drive? ;-) | 12:43 |
| larsu | ya | 12:43 |
| larsu | s/ya/no | 12:43 |
| seb128 | did that user open a bug? | 12:43 |
| larsu | seb128: yes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/1086806 | 12:43 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1086806 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox encoder missing plugin" [High,Triaged] | 12:43 |
| seb128 | I understand "ya", no worry ;-) | 12:43 |
| larsu | their suggestion is to jut drop the ubuntu-presets | 12:43 |
| larsu | but I'm not sure that's a good idea | 12:43 |
| * larsu doesn't know a lot about gstreamer and default encodings | 12:44 | |
| seb128 | let me try here | 12:44 |
| seb128 | that bug is there since 12.10, shrug | 12:44 |
| seb128 | I can confirm the issue | 12:46 |
| Laney | yeah | 12:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, are you debugging it? | 12:46 |
| seb128 | (no need to be both debugging the same thing) | 12:47 |
| Laney | no I just checked it | 12:47 |
| Laney | you go ahead | 12:47 |
| seb128 | k | 12:47 |
| seb128 | shrug, rb is not being nice to glib | 12:47 |
| seb128 | quite some warnings on start | 12:48 |
| larsu | seb128: is it fixed if you comment the "preset = ..." lines in /usr/share/rhythmbox/rhythmbox.gep? | 12:49 |
| larsu | that's the workaround people are using | 12:49 |
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| dpm | hey seb128, we're trying to wrap up the schedule for UDS and I just noticed a couple of client sessions that are pending approval: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/review/ - I just wanted to give you a heads up in case you hadn't seen them | 12:50 |
| seb128 | dpm, hey, I've not even started looking at vUDS scheduling, but thanks | 12:50 |
| seb128 | larsu, yes, that works | 12:51 |
| dpm | seb128, no worries. If you want, I can approve them for you now and then you can take care of scheduling them | 12:51 |
| seb128 | dpm, sounds good, thanks | 12:52 |
| larsu | seb128: I'm pretty sure we can drop the patch. Apparently Laney added it because gstreamer had bad default presets | 12:53 |
| seb128 | larsu, did they change their presets? | 12:53 |
| larsu | but the ones in the rhythmbox patch are identical with the ones in /usr/share/gstreamer-1.0/presets | 12:53 |
| Laney | there's at least a few to choose from now | 12:53 |
| dpm | seb128, ok, approved. They should now appear on the "Schedule meetings" page for you to put in the schedule | 12:53 |
| Laney | I think before you got no choice | 12:53 |
| larsu | Laney: do you remember where you got the .prs files from? They are identical to the ones we're shipping with gstreamer | 12:55 |
| Laney | They came from a contributor | 12:55 |
| seb128 | Conor made those | 12:55 |
| larsu | maybe we patch them into gstreamer? | 12:57 |
| seb128 | larsu, I'm investigating, hold on ;-) | 12:57 |
| Laney | I don't think they are identical | 12:57 |
| Laney | I think you are looking at files installed by rhythmbox | 12:57 |
| larsu | Laney: bah, you're right. I did a dpkg -S on the dir, not the files | 12:57 |
| seb128 | larsu, dpkg -S /usr/share/gstreamer-1.0/presets/* | 12:57 |
| seb128 | right | 12:58 |
| Laney | it's probably orthogonal to the preset thing | 12:58 |
| Laney | I don't know/remember what that is supposed to achieve | 12:58 |
| seb128 | I think the profiles just need their elements names updated | 12:58 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney: let me look at it, I'm going to come back to you, no need to be 3 looking at the same thing | 12:58 |
| larsu | okay | 12:58 |
| larsu | thanks! | 12:58 |
| seb128 | yw! | 12:58 |
| Laney | hehe | 12:59 |
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| mlankhorst | ok, I Hate -Bsymbolic | 13:10 |
| mlankhorst | and -Bsymbolic-functions | 13:10 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney: seems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/945987/comments/53 is right (I wonder how that ever worked) | 13:26 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 945987 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "No Settings are available in "Preferred format", only preset defaults are used" [High,Confirmed] | 13:26 |
| seb128 | changing the preset to be "ubuntu-default" in the .gep makes it work | 13:26 |
| seb128 | not sure how Laney had a version with the right content (next comment on that bug), http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/rhythmbox/ubuntu/revision/178 suggests the name mismatch was there from the start | 13:27 |
| Laney | seb128: aha | 13:27 |
| Laney | so just fix the name | 13:27 |
| Laney | does that get rid of it for you? | 13:28 |
| larsu | ah col | 13:28 |
| larsu | *cool | 13:28 |
| seb128 | it does get ride of the error | 13:28 |
| seb128 | but the preset is not used by default | 13:28 |
| seb128 | it's listed in the preferences combo as "ubuntu-default" | 13:28 |
| seb128 | not very useful | 13:28 |
| seb128 | I'm looking at changing the default rather | 13:29 |
| seb128 | cool, it has a gsettings "media-type-presets" | 13:30 |
| seb128 | org.gnome.rhythmbox.encoding-settings media-type-presets | 13:30 |
| seb128 | which maps type to preset profiles | 13:30 |
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| seb128 | so first fix is to fix the naming inconsistency (and maybe pick a better name, e.g rename it "Ubuntu") | 13:31 |
| seb128 | since that's the name showing in the preferences combo | 13:31 |
| Laney | nod | 13:31 |
| seb128 | then update ubuntu-settings to set a default for that key | 13:31 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney: thanks for pointing it out and for the help debugging ;-) | 13:31 |
| seb128 | still disturbing that we have such bugs for several releases (good to fix it for the LTS as well) | 13:32 |
| larsu | seb128: :) | 13:34 |
| GunnarHj | Hello seb128 | 13:47 |
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| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey | 13:48 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Wondering about that mythes-sv package (bug 1284701). I got an FFe and have also uploaded to mentors.debian.net. Is there anything else I need to do? | 13:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1284701 in Ubuntu "[FFE] Please upload mythes-sv to the archive" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284701 | 13:48 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, hi :), is 4.2.2rc1 already ready for publishing? | 13:48 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, no, you might have noticed but the sponsoring queue is quite full and people are busy... | 13:48 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: I'm supposed to pilot tomorrow, will look then if nobody does before | 13:49 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I know there are quite a few items... Will try to be more patient. ;-) | 13:50 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Thanks! | 13:50 |
| Laney | if you could tell me (in the bug) how to check it works that will probably help | 13:50 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok, will do. | 13:51 |
| seb128 | I spent some time sponsoring today to help driving the queue down | 13:52 |
| seb128 | let's see where we manage to get | 13:52 |
| Laney | tack Gunnar! | 13:52 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: ;-) Yeah, it's good you know some Swedish if you're going to check that thesaurus. | 13:55 |
| Laney | I do have a copy of The Bridge, maybe I should watch it without subtitles and see how far I get :P | 13:56 |
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| GunnarHj | Might be a good exercise.. | 13:58 |
| desrt | good morning cats | 13:58 |
| Laney | haha, there's a British/French remake with the body being found in the Channel Tunnel... | 13:59 |
| Laney | saluton desrt | 14:00 |
| desrt | Laney: bonega! vi lernis! | 14:00 |
| seb128 | desrt, woof to you | 14:00 |
| seb128 | or woo to you | 14:00 |
| desrt | seb128: no 'w' in esperanto :) | 14:00 |
| seb128 | ooo? ;-) | 14:01 |
| desrt | ŭ | 14:01 |
| Laney | nur unu vorto | 14:01 |
| desrt | Laney: kaj tri pli | 14:01 |
| seb128 | oh man, crazy language day again? | 14:01 |
| Laney | comes around every month :P | 14:01 |
| seb128 | bregma, Trevinho: ChrisTownsend: did you guys notice the new compiz/unity misplacing buttons in some dialogs like the gnome-keyring ssh agent one? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | they got placed over the text until you focus the dialog | 14:05 |
| seb128 | then the dialog resizes and they get placed under it | 14:05 |
| bregma | seb128, I've noticed some GTK dialogs are distorted on high-DPI systems, like the unlock dialog nearly fills the whole screen and the text and buttons get lost | 14:07 |
| bregma | I haven't actually tested on an old-fashioned small screen lately | 14:07 |
| seb128 | I'm using a zoom of 1 here | 14:08 |
| desrt | Laney: so what would you do if i introduced a patch to glib to make it fail ./configure if your C compiler was broken wrt. IEEE floating point behaviour as mandated by the C spec? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, did you re-review the u-g-m work from attente yesterday? I would like to land that | 14:10 |
| desrt | ah! fell off my plate during my war with gcc | 14:11 |
| Laney | broken as in 'this is what gcc does'? | 14:11 |
| desrt | Laney: yes :) | 14:11 |
| desrt | Laney: you could fix this in a number of ways... | 14:12 |
| desrt | like giving some CFLAGS during the build | 14:12 |
| desrt | -fexcess-precision=standard, as an example, or -mfpmath=sse -march=pentium3 | 14:13 |
| desrt | you could also patch out the check | 14:13 |
| * desrt is hoping to start a discussion... | 14:13 | |
| desrt | truly, -mfpmath=sse -march=pentium3 would be good for absolutely everyone who doesn't own a pentium 2... | 14:14 |
| desrt | -fexcess-precision=standard would get us working code, at least, though | 14:15 |
| mlankhorst | couldn't we go further and use -march=pentium4 ? :P | 14:16 |
| mlankhorst | and drop the i386 arch :x | 14:16 |
| desrt | we already use i686 | 14:16 |
| Laney | yeah I don't know if it's something we could do at the level of glib | 14:18 |
| desrt | i valid answer to this question is also "i would talk to doko" | 14:19 |
| * desrt is trying to guage the impact on other distros -- not ubuntu specifically | 14:19 | |
| Laney | I would say "say Ryan, why don't you start a thread on ubuntu-devel about this?" | 14:22 |
| Laney | that'll smoke the right people out | 14:22 |
| desrt | sounds like a good plan | 14:22 |
| desrt | i'll do that after i review attente's patch :) | 14:22 |
| Laney | Debian would have to act similarly, and it might be harder to make this kind of change there | 14:23 |
| desrt | it seems that debian is very likely to be concerned with correctness | 14:23 |
| desrt | so they might want -fexcess-precision=standard anyway | 14:24 |
| Laney | what's the performance hit like? | 14:24 |
| desrt | i looked at the code... it's not pretty | 14:25 |
| desrt | in i686 you have mmx, it seems... and they use that if it's there | 14:25 |
| desrt | turning on standards means that it stops using mmx and goes back to oldschool fpu instructions | 14:26 |
| desrt | sse/sse2 got it right so if those are available they use them with preference | 14:26 |
| desrt | and indeed this is the default for amd64 (since all known amd64 implementations also have sse/sse2) | 14:26 |
| desrt | but with -march=i686, we don't know if we have sse/sse2 | 14:26 |
| Laney | OH GOD | 14:29 |
| Laney | I did schroot -e --all-sessions, which kills all open schroot sessions | 14:29 |
| Laney | guess what free software web browser engine had been building all day in another session | 14:30 |
| seb128 | $browser_engine_that_shall_not_be_named 11 - 3 Laney | 14:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, just give up and throw it at a ppa builder I say | 14:30 |
| Laney | yeah, fat fingers can't get in the way there ... | 14:31 |
| Laney | or dodgy kernels or whatever made my machine die overnight | 14:31 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, how can I merge the proposed patch on https://code.launchpad.net/~philpem/ubuntu/trusty/ptouch-driver/fix-esc-i-a-for-pt-series/+merge/209351? Or do I simply upload the package with the patch applied? | 15:14 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, simply uploading with the patch is fine | 15:15 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, OK, thanks. | 15:16 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, yw, thanks for looking at it! | 15:16 |
| desrt | Laney: discussion opened :) | 15:18 |
| desrt | or at least it will be once the moderator approves the post | 15:19 |
| Laney | cool, thanks for that | 15:23 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, package uploaded. | 15:23 |
| desrt | Laney: i think i'm going to avoid fixing the test meanwhile | 15:24 |
| desrt | so you can continue to patch it out or you can build glib with some CFLAGS which cause the compiler to produce correct code | 15:24 |
| Laney | I uploaded the volatile patch | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128, were you complaining about something with failing tests on the builders related to gsettings? | 15:28 |
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| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks | 15:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no, why? | 15:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, xnox was complaining about content-hub/gsettings slowness in the emulator yesterday, but that's only recent discussion around gsetting that I remember | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ok, i thought i overheard you and desrt talking about this | 15:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, we were discussing a segfault issue that's hitting u-s-d and something other softwares | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | ok, i am seeing segfaults in the test suite in a ppa | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | for content-hub | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | might not be related to gsettings at all | 15:40 |
| desrt | gsettings gives you SIGABRT, not SIGSEGV :) | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | desrt, of course it does... you love aborts :) | 15:43 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, do you have a bt? | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | no... it's only on the ppa builders | 15:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/1284647 is the bug I was mentioning | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | not sure how to get that | 15:44 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1284647 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "gsettings crashed with SIGSEGV in g_settings_backend_dispatch_signal()" [High,Triaged] | 15:44 |
| dobey | hmm, this compiz window size bug is starting to get annoying :-/ | 15:50 |
| seb128 | which one? | 15:51 |
| dobey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1287472 i think | 15:52 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1287472 in Compiz "compiz unnecessarily shrinks new windows" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:52 |
| seb128 | seems like Trevinho is on it | 15:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/3.0.1-1ubuntu12 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/14.04.5 | 15:53 |
| larsu | seb128: awesome, thanks! | 15:54 |
| seb128 | yw | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah, one of the tons things I'm doing right now :) | 16:19 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, I also assigned you a new segfault for the client side decoration (not sure if noticed), showed up on e.u.c today | 16:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah, I saw the email... then my firefox decided not to load gmail... (and I can't restart it now) :) | 16:22 |
| Laney | seb128: nice one | 16:26 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | seb128, sorry, was in a meeting... the armhf builders for ppas, those are virtual aren't they? only the archive gets real hardware? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, depends of the ppa I think, normal ppas don't have armhf, do they? | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | no... but my ppa does | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | but i think by default they're virtual | 16:39 |
| seb128 | that's likely yes | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | i bet it's hitting this same qemu thing signond hit a while back | 16:39 |
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| * Sweetshark hugs mterry! | 18:01 | |
| Sweetshark | mterry: thanks for the MIRs! | 18:01 |
| mterry | Sweetshark, :) | 18:02 |
| Sweetshark | ... esp. since I missed the subscriptions ... | 18:04 |
| Sweetshark | mterry: seb128 and me werent sure: Do I need another one for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice-dictionaries ? Its essentially a source package rename from openoffice.org-dictionaries -- same codebase and all binary packages from it used to be in main before. | 18:05 |
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| mterry | Sweetshark, is there new packaging? | 18:06 |
| mterry | Sweetshark, if packaging changed, it doesn't hurt to get a quick once over, but meh. Not a *huge* deal either way | 18:07 |
| mterry | Sweetshark, I would just run through the checklist and make sure a team is subscribed to bugs, etc | 18:07 |
| Sweetshark | mterry: the packaging was updated, based on the old stuff. seb128 had a glace over it. mostly updating debhelper, killing dpatch and some lintian nags. | 18:08 |
| mterry | Sweetshark, just make sure a bug subscriber exists and you're fine | 18:08 |
| Sweetshark | mterry: 'The subscription has been created.' | 18:09 |
| Sweetshark | (30 seconds before this conversation) | 18:09 |
| mterry | :) | 18:09 |
| * Sweetshark is no a quick learner. But on the third try, there is a chance that he gets it. | 18:10 | |
| mterry | heh | 18:10 |
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