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MavKenI have 13.10... How can I clear the list of "recent servers" when going through the files manager?02:35
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robert_ancellcyphermox, has there been any though given to implementing WPS in NetworkManager / the indicators?02:37
desrtrobert_ancell: this is that push-to-autoconfig stuff?02:42
robert_ancelldesrt, yes02:44
robert_ancellI started using it a few weeks ago and it's actually very handy, especially when using a phone02:45
desrtseems like it would be more useful for devices lacking a proper keyboard02:45
desrtnever thought about applying it to a laptop02:45
desrtstill seems like it would be nice, though02:46
robert_ancelldesrt, it's particularly handy in the case you go to someones house where they're technically illiterate and they can't remember their router password02:47
desrtya.... i actually experience this a lot02:47
desrt"oh... let me get out this book i wrote it in... no.. it's on this other piece... oh no... that was with my old provider.... hmmm... it's around here somewhere"02:48
robert_ancelldesrt, btw, still having that dbus unown name issue. I've cleaned up everything around the issue but haven't found what's causing it02:48
desrtremind me?02:48
robert_ancellit seems the call is timing out (takes exactly 25s) but no errors are printed which makes me think glib thinks it has succeeded02:48
robert_ancellin one of the test cases in lightdm, g_bus_unown_name blocks for 25s on shutdown02:49
robert_ancellyou thought it might be due to multiprocess screw ups, so I made really really sure I wasn't doing anything bad there02:49
desrtah right.  i remember now.02:50
robert_ancelldesrt, are you still hacking at the moment?02:50
desrttending to builds, etc.02:50
desrttrying to test some touch issues in gtk02:50
robert_ancellfeel like giving it a whirl locally?02:50
desrtdo i need ubuntu? :)02:50
robert_ancelldesrt, no02:51
robert_ancellyou need bzr though02:51
desrti think i can manage that :)02:51
robert_ancellit's just get lp:lightdm, build then run ./test-unity-compositor-fallback from tests/02:51
robert_ancellit fails for me most of the time02:51
robert_ancellyou can cut down that test to make it simpler to see what lightdm is doing, but perhaps you'll see more looking from the glib end02:52
desrtso that didn't work very well02:58
desrtgimme a sec02:58
desrtyour autogen doesn't bail out when it's missing stuff for some reason02:58
desrtk.  here goes.02:59
desrtso the test failed... immediately02:59
desrtlightdm: symbol lookup error: lightdm: undefined symbol: g_hash_table_get_keys_as_array03:00
desrtare you mucking with LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your test setup?03:01
desrtyes... you are03:01
desrtthis is not jhbuild-compatible :)03:01
desrtokay... now the test exits immediately with no error and status 003:02
desrtrobert_ancell: i guess you missed that...03:05
robert_ancell_desrt, try running it a few times, or with DEBUG=1 in the env03:07
desrtthe amazing never-failing testcase :)03:08
robert_ancell_I wish03:08
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desrtit's going in a tight while true; ... loop03:08
desrtno failures after what must have been 1000 runs03:08
desrtokay... maybe more like 100 :)03:09
desrthah!  failure!03:10
desrtbut uh... not the one you were expecting03:10
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desrttook a few hundred runs to get that though03:10
robert_ancellno, that's not the one I was expecting :/03:10
robert_ancelldesrt, did you try with DEBUG=1?03:12
desrtno change except that it took longer to run with all the output03:13
desrti ran maybe 100 tries like that and then tried with it off03:14
robert_ancellmaybe it is specific to something in Ubuntu03:15
robert_ancelldesrt, what version of glib?03:15
desrtgit master as of a couple hours ago03:15
desrti don't think we've made substantial gdbus changes lately, though03:15
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cyphermoxrobert_ancell: it's in the TODO file in NM03:16
robert_ancellcyphermox, yeah, that's what I found. I was wondering if there's been any more thought on it03:17
robert_ancellI'd kind of like to implement that for 14.10 if no-one else would03:17
cyphermoxnot really that I know of03:17
cyphermoxI have lots of plans for 14.10 re: network-manager and all03:17
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pittiGood morning06:03
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tsdgeosdo you guys know what is the responsible of showing me the dialogs to enter my ssh passphrase? it's broken since yesterday08:20
tsdgeosthe buttons show over the line edit08:20
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mlankhorstseb128: it should be part of libegl1-mesa-dev09:05
Laneyhey ho09:05
seb128good morning desktopers09:08
seb128Laney, hey, how are you?09:08
seb128mlankhorst, well, g-c-c fails to build, so something went wrong in your upload09:08
mlankhorstoh right09:10
mlankhorstmust be some incomplete reverts09:10
mlankhorsthm it's in libegl1-mesa-drivers09:10
pittibonjour seb128, hey Laney09:12
seb128pitti, salut, ça va ?09:12
Laneyalright thanks seb128, enjoyed some tasty pancakes yesterday ;-)09:12
seb128pitti, how as the Alps?09:12
mlankhorstoh right09:12
Laneyhow are you seb128 & mlankhorst & pitti?09:12
seb128Laney, I enjoyed "beignets", we don't do pancakes here ;-)09:12
seb128I'm good thanks!09:12
* Laney goodles that09:13
pittiseb128: ça va bien, merci ! nous avons eu un bon weekend longue dans les Alps09:13
Laneyoh my god09:13
LaneyI bet yours looked better than that09:13
seb128lol, they did09:14
seb128pitti, "les Alpes" in french ;-)09:14
seb128pitti, tu as fait du ski ?09:14
pittiseb128: ah, merci09:14
pittiseb128: oui, la première (et peut-être la derniére) fois à cet an09:15
seb128pitti, oh, pourquoi peut-être la dernière, l'hiver est pas fini et il y en a de nouveau un hiver à la fin de l'année !09:16
pittiseb128: en effet, je voulais "ce hiver" :)09:16
seb128ah ;-)09:17
pittiseb128: mais à Augsburg nous n'avons pas un vrai hiver09:17
seb128nous non plus09:17
seb12810°c de prévu aujourd'hui :/09:17
pittinous avons eu de la neige pendant une ou deux semaines ici09:17
seb128Laney, that looks like the beignets we get, http://wherewearinthecity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/beignets.jpg09:18
seb128pitti, nous pas de neige cette année :-(09:18
seb128pitti, do you guys do pancakes or beignets this week?09:19
pittiseb128: we have something called "Krapfen", like this: http://www.maintal-konfitueren.de/fileadmin/data/images/Downloadbereich/Ambiente/krapfen_frei_gross.jpg09:19
jodhhas something changed recently wrt how the desktop initiates shutdown (ck -> logind)? We have a few reports of users being unable to shutdown/reboot from the menu (bugs 1288087, 1286986, 1286698).09:19
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1288087 in upstart (Ubuntu) "System menu for Restart & Shutdown no longer works after installing Office 2010 through Wine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128808709:19
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1286986 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Dropping to commandline is the only way to shutdown or restart" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128698609:19
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1286698 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Logout, Restart & Shutdown does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128669809:20
pittiseb128: not entirely unlike beignets09:20
seb128pitti, I see ;-)09:20
pittiwe ate 2 of them yesterday for the carnival09:20
pittiI don't like all the rest of carnival, except the Krapfen :)09:20
seb128jodh, hey, no change that I can think about09:20
jodhseb128: hmm, ok. maybe be a hardware issue for those folk, but the timing of those bugs suggests maybe something else might be involved.09:21
seb128jodh, the bugs 2-3 are from the same user09:22
seb128they are all 3 from the same user09:22
jodhseb128: gah - hadn't noticed that! good catch :)09:22
jodhftr, are we using ck or logind atm?09:23
seb128jodh, that one user has a local problem09:23
jodhok, I'll see if they can invoke PowerOff using dbus-send.09:23
seb128jodh, the "upstart-event-bridge.log" snipet in the bug summary has09:24
seb128 process 1206: arguments to dbus_pending_call_unref() were incorrect, assertion "pending != NULL" failed in file ../../dbus/dbus-pending-call.c line 608.09:24
pittijodh: we've been using logind since saucy; CK is gone09:24
seb128not sure if that's a sign something is wrong with the bus session09:24
jodhpitti: I've got /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon running on my system still.09:25
jodhpitti: looks like it is a dep for kde still.09:26
seb128jodh, feel free to dup those 3 bugs and reassign to unity or gnome-session09:27
jodhseb128: thanks - will do.09:28
hyperairhey did unity get reverted to a version before saucy or something?09:35
Sweetsharkseb128: sorry for the UNRELEASED thing -- thats was of ocurse the line I changed, when I changed the version to ~trusty1 for the PPA :/09:35
hyperairthe super and alt key handling seems to be back to the crappy pre-saucy timeout-based version09:35
hyperairso if i press super+w and release it really quickly, unity opens the dash instead09:35
hyperairand if i hit alt+anything and release both keys really quickly, the HUD opens up09:36
seb128Sweetshark, no worry09:36
Sweetsharkseb128: do we need a MIR for it? or is "all binary packages from libreoffice-dictionaires were in main before from openoffice.org-dictionaires and are from the same codebase?" enough?09:37
seb128hyperair, no unity changes to those that I know, check with bregma or ChrisTownsend or Trevinho09:37
seb128Sweetshark, check with doko or mterry or didrocks, but I think it should be ok/considered as a rename of an existing source09:38
hyperairwell, i guess they all got pinged by that comment so i'll wait09:38
Sweetsharkseb128: k09:39
seb128hyperair, when did the issue start?09:39
hyperairseb128: after i upgraded to trusty09:39
hyperairseb128: so it's between the saucy version and the trusty version =\09:40
hyperair(and i only upgraded two days ago)09:40
seb128well, we had some changes in grabbing, compiz is now grabbing the g-s-d keybindings (same way gnome-shell is doing for GNOME)09:41
hyperairi see09:41
seb128but that shouldn't impact on super/hud, though I'm unsure09:41
hyperairi recall the super/alt key handling was pretty bad in raring or before that09:41
hyperairbasically ctrl+super keybindings required you to press ctrl first09:41
hyperairsame goes for alt+super keybindings09:42
seb128I never use super out of for the dash so I can't say09:42
seb128and I map the hud out of alt09:42
hyperairheh i see09:42
hyperairwhat do you map it to?09:42
seb128right-win key09:42
hyperairah blragh i don't have that key09:43
seb128 you use the hud?09:43
seb128if not you can just unbind it :p09:43
hyperairyeah i do09:43
hyperairadn my laptop doesn't have many spare keys to bind things to09:44
seb128well, in any case we should fix the regression09:44
seb128but meanwhile...09:44
hyperairhence why i'm using all sorts of ctrl+super keybindings09:44
Laneyoh yeah I can see what you see09:44
hyperairi think i filed a bug regarding ctrl+super09:44
Laneysuper+w, release really quickly → dash09:44
ali1234there are also various problems with alt/hud/screenshot etc09:45
ali1234if you pres alt+printscreen fast enough it opens the hud and then takes a screenshot of it09:45
seb128ali1234, new in trusty?09:45
hyperairit's been almost a year since i dug into unity's code, but at that time the super/alt handling was basically... listen for super, and watch (within a certain timeout) for recognized keys)09:45
ali1234i dunno if they are new or not since i don't use unity and when i did i unbound alt and super anyway09:45
seb128we need more keys on keyboard :p09:46
hyperairand then saucy came along and holy shit it was fixed09:46
ali1234bug 128353009:46
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1283530 in unity (Ubuntu) "Using alt-printscreen when locally integrated menus is turned on creates undesirable results" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128353009:46
hyperairand now it's back ¬_¬09:46
seb128I wonder if it ever got fixes09:46
* apw notes that he can only disable the HUD binding in settings, if it is buond to _any_ key then Alt responds to it, it is also impossible to rebind it to Alt_L or indeed any modifier09:46
seb128or if that's random behaviour and you just happened to get lucky with timings09:46
hyperairwat, seriously?09:46
hyperairhow many things got hardcoded shittily in the unity codebase this time?09:47
hyperairit was a nightmare of hardcoded behaviour the last time i looked09:47
seb128apw, I can't confirm that, I just binded it to lctrl, then back to alt than to the win key09:47
apwseb128, one of these boxes i updated not 20m ago, and it is definatly exhibiting this behaviour09:48
seb128didrocks had similar issues but not happening in a guest session09:49
apwseb128, and i have two next to each otehr showing it, both upgrades from saucy and likely older09:49
seb128yeah, well, it's not that I don't believe you09:49
seb128it's just that I can't confirm/reproduce09:49
apwso where are the "unity settings which it doesn't ever upgrade properly" so i can nuke them09:49
seb128why is this morning turning into "report my issues about unity", we don't even work on unity in this channel :p09:49
seb128people, please use launchpad09:50
hyperairwhoops, sorry for starting it09:50
seb128or ping #ubuntu-unity when the unity7 are around09:50
Laneylet's talk about how indicators don't start properly under panel instead :P09:50
seb128e.g bregma or ChrisTownsend or Trevinho might be able to help you, but I don't think any of them is around yet09:50
Laneyor why my machine died overnight so I don't have webkit debs :(09:50
seb128Laney, 0_o09:51
seb128webkit 10 - 3 Laney09:51
seb128(or I lost the count but I think webkit is still winning this cycle :p)09:51
apwseb128, cause filing bugs is for whimps09:52
Laneyyeah, never take webkit on09:52
Laneyyou'll lose09:52
hyperaircan't be as bad as building a kernel09:52
hyperairi had to iterate with a PPA because i kept ENOSPC'ing while building it09:52
apwseb128, did yo manage to put the key back to Alt-l btw as in a guest i could move it to anywhere like Alt_R ok but not back to Alt_L09:53
seb128apw, you don't file bugs and then your issues never get resolved :p (I'm still thinking I should file you about my latitude locking for 1 second every time I change the screen level through the keys)09:53
seb128things were so much nicer in precise when that was not happening09:53
* seb128 shakes fist at the kernel09:53
hyperairmight be a unity bug for all we know ¬_¬"09:54
Laneyhyperair: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.13.0-16.36/+build/5659613 vs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkitgtk/2.3.90-1ubuntu1/+build/561970509:54
seb128apw, I managed to put it back to alt_r but the ui calls that "mod2+alt_l" for some reason, it works though09:54
apwseb128, what about Alt_L09:54
seb128that says "level3 shift"09:54
hyperairLaney: holy shit09:55
apwseb128, mine calls Alt_R something like level3_shift09:55
Laneyit's extreme09:55
Laneyalso C++09:55
seb128but yeah, that doesn't work (hud doesn't open)09:55
hyperairbut C++ is good!09:55
hyperairLaney: https://launchpad.net/~hyperair/+archive/staging/+build/536540409:55
hyperairclose enough ;-)09:55
Laneydon't let Sweetshark hear this conversation09:56
hyperairpinging helps, yeah.09:56
* Laney tries again...09:57
Laneyin the meantime, lemme see why the ubuntu-sso-client autopkgtests are borked09:58
seb128Laney, if you want to look at aptdaemon as well, please do ;-) (tried to ping mvo about those without luck)09:59
Laneyseb128: ok, I'll look after10:02
seb128Laney, thanks10:02
Laneymight be hard though, those mvo tests tend to be complex ;-)10:02
* Sweetshark hugs mterry (in absence) for apppoving the hunspell-fr and google-fonts MIRs.10:05
apwseb128, just for you i have filed a bug and whined at #ubuntu-unity10:08
seb128Laney, update_output has10:08
seb128"Trying easy from laney: ubuntu-settings/14.04.4 gnome-session/3.9.90-0ubuntu1110:08
seb128leading: ubuntu-settings,gnome-session10:08
seb128failed: ubuntu-settings"10:08
seb128apw, thanks10:08
Laneyit's just an old hint10:08
seb128Laney, right, can you clear it off? ;-)10:09
Laneyyes, but it is harmless10:09
seb128k, noted for next time10:09
seb128I didn't know that hints were generating output when they had no matching content ;-)10:09
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Laneyyeah it's telling you that it couldn't be applied10:10
Laneyremoved it now, thanks for the pointer10:10
seb128apw, do you know if my issue of "computer 'hangs' for a second every time you change the screen level through the keys" (latitude e6410) is a known kernel issue?10:11
seb128I should probably report a bug about that as well10:11
* seb128 looks in launchpad10:11
apwseb128, nope not heard of that, you should file a bug indeed10:36
mlankhorstoh you're already rebuilding gcc?10:41
seb128yes, why not?10:42
* Laney hugs pitti for adt-run --apt-source10:44
Laneyalioth is down which breaks run-adt-test here but this with adt-virt-schroot is nice10:45
pittiali1234: how does alioth break run-adt-tesZ?10:46
Laneyit tries to check something out10:46
pittiLaney: yes, run-adt-test and prepare-testbed will go away, in favor of adt-virt-{lxc,qemu}10:46
LaneyI think autopkgtest itself?10:46
seb128pitti, btw, just as fyi https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725390#c410:47
ubot2`Gnome bug 725390 in daemon "ipod displayed with an usb key icon" [Normal,Unconfirmed]10:47
seb128pitti, do you know what would be the right place for a such "udev quirk that tells udisks the icon to use"?10:47
seb128is udisks shipping some of those?10:48
pittiseb128: ah, so your ipod doesn't use afc10:48
seb128it's an old classic-storage one10:48
pittiseb128: I thought we have some hack which assigns the new icon to devices with ID_MEDIA_PLAYER10:48
seb128right, we had10:48
pittiseb128: does your device still have that tag?10:48
seb128but that stopped working with the new gvfs10:48
pittiseb128: ah, so we probably dropped that hack at some point10:48
seb128it seems like you dropped it because the issue was resolved upstream10:49
seb128but they did some refactoring for symbolic icons and other stuff then10:49
pittiah no, this is supposed to be fixed upstream10:49
pittiseb128: yes, our patch was against the gdu backend10:49
seb128they might have dropped the hack, which wouldn't be suprising if e.g bastien thinks that should be done in a quirk and not in code10:49
pittiseb128: right, the upstream solution wasn't a hack any more10:50
pittiseb128: I'll have a look in some mins, just finishing something else10:50
seb128pitti, k, let me know if you need debug infos from me10:50
* pitti still fighting the backlog from the long weekend, and people broke stuff all over the place :)10:50
seb128Laney, why do you need a ffe for pango? isn't that a point/bugfix release?11:03
Laneyto add the new package11:03
seb128oh, I should have read all the description :p11:03
Laneyjust noticed they fail in debian11:08
Laneyglib too :(11:08
Laneyjust a missing test-dep though it seems11:09
seb128cyphermox, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~matttbe/ubuntu/trusty/network-manager-applet/lp1267100/+merge/200825 ?11:42
seb128happyaron, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-anthy/+bug/1279845 still on your todolist?11:45
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1279845 in ibus-anthy (Ubuntu) "ibus-anthy sets to jp keyboard layout forcibly." [Undecided,New]11:45
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larsuLaney: do you know why we have custom encoding profiles for rhythmbox? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/rhythmbox/ubuntu/revision/17812:36
larsupeople say they break cd ripping for them in bug #108680612:36
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1086806 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox encoder missing plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108680612:36
larsuand I get emailed because "I've touched rhythmbox last"12:36
LaneyPeople were complaining that the defaults were crappy for ripping, so some guy came with these new ones12:38
seb128larsu, look at the bug referenced in that commit12:38
larsuah I overlooked that there was a reference. Thanks!12:40
LaneyI'm not sure it was ever completely right12:40
seb128it might be that things got fixed/made different upstream since and that those changes are not needed anymore, not sure12:41
Laneyin fact12:41
larsuno, it's not upstream12:42
larsuthe problem is that I can't test it12:43
larsubut having cd ripping broken by default sounds quite ... bad12:43
seb128no CD drive? ;-)12:43
seb128did that user open a bug?12:43
larsuseb128: yes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/108680612:43
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1086806 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox encoder missing plugin" [High,Triaged]12:43
seb128I understand "ya", no worry ;-)12:43
larsutheir suggestion is to jut drop the ubuntu-presets12:43
larsubut I'm not sure that's a good idea12:43
* larsu doesn't know a lot about gstreamer and default encodings12:44
seb128let me try here12:44
seb128that bug is there since 12.10, shrug12:44
seb128I can confirm the issue12:46
seb128Laney, are you debugging it?12:46
seb128(no need to be both debugging the same thing)12:47
Laneyno I just checked it12:47
Laneyyou go ahead12:47
seb128shrug, rb is not being nice to glib12:47
seb128quite some warnings on start12:48
larsuseb128: is it fixed if you comment the "preset = ..." lines in /usr/share/rhythmbox/rhythmbox.gep?12:49
larsuthat's the workaround people are using12:49
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dpmhey seb128, we're trying to wrap up the schedule for UDS and I just noticed a couple of client sessions that are pending approval: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/review/ - I just wanted to give you a heads up in case you hadn't seen them12:50
seb128dpm, hey, I've not even started looking at vUDS scheduling, but thanks12:50
seb128larsu, yes, that works12:51
dpmseb128, no worries. If you want, I can approve them for you now and then you can take care of scheduling them12:51
seb128dpm, sounds good, thanks12:52
larsuseb128: I'm pretty sure we can drop the patch. Apparently Laney added it because gstreamer had bad default presets12:53
seb128larsu, did they change their presets?12:53
larsubut the ones in the rhythmbox patch are identical with the ones in /usr/share/gstreamer-1.0/presets12:53
Laneythere's at least a few to choose from now12:53
dpmseb128, ok, approved. They should now appear on the "Schedule meetings" page for you to put in the schedule12:53
LaneyI think before you got no choice12:53
larsuLaney: do you remember where you got the .prs files from? They are identical to the ones we're shipping with gstreamer12:55
LaneyThey came from a contributor12:55
seb128Conor made those12:55
larsumaybe we patch them into gstreamer?12:57
seb128larsu, I'm investigating, hold on ;-)12:57
LaneyI don't think they are identical12:57
LaneyI think you are looking at files installed by rhythmbox12:57
larsuLaney: bah, you're right. I did a dpkg -S on the dir, not the files12:57
seb128larsu, dpkg -S /usr/share/gstreamer-1.0/presets/*12:57
Laneyit's probably orthogonal to the preset thing12:58
LaneyI don't know/remember what that is supposed to achieve12:58
seb128I think the profiles just need their elements names updated12:58
seb128larsu, Laney: let me look at it, I'm going to come back to you, no need to be 3 looking at the same thing12:58
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mlankhorstok, I Hate -Bsymbolic13:10
mlankhorstand -Bsymbolic-functions13:10
seb128larsu, Laney: seems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/945987/comments/53 is right (I wonder how that ever worked)13:26
ubot2`Launchpad bug 945987 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "No Settings are available in "Preferred format", only preset defaults are used" [High,Confirmed]13:26
seb128changing the preset to be "ubuntu-default" in the .gep makes it work13:26
seb128not sure how Laney had a version with the right content (next comment on that bug), http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/rhythmbox/ubuntu/revision/178 suggests the name mismatch was there from the start13:27
Laneyseb128: aha13:27
Laneyso just fix the name13:27
Laneydoes that get rid of it for you?13:28
larsuah col13:28
seb128it does get ride of the error13:28
seb128but the preset is not used by default13:28
seb128it's listed in the preferences combo as "ubuntu-default"13:28
seb128not very useful13:28
seb128I'm looking at changing the default rather13:29
seb128cool, it has a gsettings "media-type-presets"13:30
seb128org.gnome.rhythmbox.encoding-settings media-type-presets13:30
seb128which maps type to preset profiles13:30
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seb128so first fix is to fix the naming inconsistency (and maybe pick a better name, e.g rename it "Ubuntu")13:31
seb128since that's the name showing in the preferences combo13:31
seb128then update ubuntu-settings to set a default for that key13:31
seb128larsu, Laney: thanks for pointing it out and for the help debugging ;-)13:31
seb128still disturbing that we have such bugs for several releases (good to fix it for the LTS as well)13:32
larsuseb128: :)13:34
GunnarHjHello seb12813:47
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seb128GunnarHj, hey13:48
GunnarHjseb128: Wondering about that mythes-sv package (bug 1284701). I got an FFe and have also uploaded to mentors.debian.net. Is there anything else I need to do?13:48
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1284701 in Ubuntu "[FFE] Please upload mythes-sv to the archive" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128470113:48
ricotzSweetshark, hi :), is 4.2.2rc1 already ready for publishing?13:48
seb128GunnarHj, no, you might have noticed but the sponsoring queue is quite full and people are busy...13:48
LaneyGunnarHj: I'm supposed to pilot tomorrow, will look then if nobody does before13:49
GunnarHjseb128: I know there are quite a few items... Will try to be more patient. ;-)13:50
GunnarHjLaney: Thanks!13:50
Laneyif you could tell me (in the bug) how to check it works that will probably help13:50
GunnarHjLaney: Ok, will do.13:51
seb128I spent some time sponsoring today to help driving the queue down13:52
seb128let's see where we manage to get13:52
Laneytack Gunnar!13:52
GunnarHjLaney: ;-) Yeah, it's good you know some Swedish if you're going to check that thesaurus.13:55
LaneyI do have a copy of The Bridge, maybe I should watch it without subtitles and see how far I get :P13:56
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GunnarHjMight be a good exercise..13:58
desrtgood morning cats13:58
Laneyhaha, there's a British/French remake with the body being found in the Channel Tunnel...13:59
Laneysaluton desrt14:00
desrtLaney: bonega!  vi lernis!14:00
seb128desrt, woof to you14:00
seb128or woo to you14:00
desrtseb128: no 'w' in esperanto :)14:00
seb128ooo? ;-)14:01
Laneynur unu vorto14:01
desrtLaney: kaj tri pli14:01
seb128oh man, crazy language day again?14:01
Laneycomes around every month :P14:01
seb128bregma, Trevinho: ChrisTownsend: did you guys notice the new compiz/unity misplacing buttons in some dialogs like the gnome-keyring ssh agent one?14:05
seb128they got placed over the text until you focus the dialog14:05
seb128then the dialog resizes and they get placed under it14:05
bregmaseb128, I've noticed some GTK dialogs are distorted on high-DPI systems, like the unlock dialog nearly fills the whole screen and the text and buttons get lost14:07
bregmaI haven't actually tested on an old-fashioned small screen lately14:07
seb128I'm using a zoom of 1 here14:08
desrtLaney: so what would you do if i introduced a patch to glib to make it fail ./configure if your C compiler was broken wrt. IEEE floating point behaviour as mandated by the C spec?14:09
seb128desrt, did you re-review the u-g-m work from attente yesterday? I would like to land that14:10
desrtah!  fell off my plate during my war with gcc14:11
Laneybroken as in 'this is what gcc does'?14:11
desrtLaney: yes :)14:11
desrtLaney: you could fix this in a number of ways...14:12
desrtlike giving some CFLAGS during the build14:12
desrt-fexcess-precision=standard, as an example, or -mfpmath=sse -march=pentium314:13
desrtyou could also patch out the check14:13
* desrt is hoping to start a discussion...14:13
desrttruly, -mfpmath=sse -march=pentium3 would be good for absolutely everyone who doesn't own a pentium 2...14:14
desrt-fexcess-precision=standard would get us working code, at least, though14:15
mlankhorstcouldn't we go further and use -march=pentium4 ? :P14:16
mlankhorstand drop the i386 arch :x14:16
desrtwe already use i68614:16
Laneyyeah I don't know if it's something we could do at the level of glib14:18
desrti valid answer to this question is also "i would talk to doko"14:19
* desrt is trying to guage the impact on other distros -- not ubuntu specifically14:19
LaneyI would say "say Ryan, why don't you start a thread on ubuntu-devel about this?"14:22
Laneythat'll smoke the right people out14:22
desrtsounds like a good plan14:22
desrti'll do that after i review attente's patch :)14:22
LaneyDebian would have to act similarly, and it might be harder to make this kind of change there14:23
desrtit seems that debian is very likely to be concerned with correctness14:23
desrtso they might want -fexcess-precision=standard anyway14:24
Laneywhat's the performance hit like?14:24
desrti looked at the code... it's not pretty14:25
desrtin i686 you have mmx, it seems... and they use that if it's there14:25
desrtturning on standards means that it stops using mmx and goes back to oldschool fpu instructions14:26
desrtsse/sse2 got it right so if those are available they use them with preference14:26
desrtand indeed this is the default for amd64 (since all known amd64 implementations also have sse/sse2)14:26
desrtbut with -march=i686, we don't know if we have sse/sse214:26
LaneyOH GOD14:29
LaneyI did schroot -e --all-sessions, which kills all open schroot sessions14:29
Laneyguess what free software web browser engine had been building all day in another session14:30
seb128$browser_engine_that_shall_not_be_named 11 - 3 Laney14:30
seb128Laney, just give up and throw it at a ppa builder I say14:30
Laneyyeah, fat fingers can't get in the way there ...14:31
Laneyor dodgy kernels or whatever made my machine die overnight14:31
tkamppeterseb128, how can I merge the proposed patch on https://code.launchpad.net/~philpem/ubuntu/trusty/ptouch-driver/fix-esc-i-a-for-pt-series/+merge/209351? Or do I simply upload the package with the patch applied?15:14
seb128tkamppeter, simply uploading with the patch is fine15:15
tkamppeterseb128, OK, thanks.15:16
seb128tkamppeter, yw, thanks for looking at it!15:16
desrtLaney: discussion opened :)15:18
desrtor at least it will be once the moderator approves the post15:19
Laneycool, thanks for that15:23
tkamppeterseb128, package uploaded.15:23
desrtLaney: i think i'm going to avoid fixing the test meanwhile15:24
desrtso you can continue to patch it out or you can build glib with some CFLAGS which cause the compiler to produce correct code15:24
LaneyI uploaded the volatile patch15:25
kenvandineseb128, were you complaining about something with failing tests on the builders related to gsettings?15:28
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seb128tkamppeter, thanks15:35
seb128kenvandine, no, why?15:35
seb128kenvandine, xnox was complaining about content-hub/gsettings slowness in the emulator yesterday, but that's only recent discussion around gsetting that I remember15:36
kenvandineseb128, ok, i thought i overheard you and desrt talking about this15:37
seb128kenvandine, we were discussing a segfault issue that's hitting u-s-d and something other softwares15:37
kenvandineok, i am seeing segfaults in the test suite in a ppa15:39
kenvandinefor content-hub15:39
kenvandinemight not be related to gsettings at all15:40
desrtgsettings gives you SIGABRT, not SIGSEGV :)15:42
kenvandinedesrt, of course it does... you love aborts :)15:43
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seb128kenvandine, do you have a bt?15:43
kenvandineno... it's only on the ppa builders15:44
seb128kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/1284647 is the bug I was mentioning15:44
kenvandinenot sure how to get that15:44
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1284647 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "gsettings crashed with SIGSEGV in g_settings_backend_dispatch_signal()" [High,Triaged]15:44
dobeyhmm, this compiz window size bug is starting to get annoying :-/15:50
seb128which one?15:51
dobeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1287472 i think15:52
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1287472 in Compiz "compiz unnecessarily shrinks new windows" [Medium,Triaged]15:52
seb128seems like Trevinho is on it15:53
seb128Laney, larsu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/3.0.1-1ubuntu12 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/14.04.515:53
larsuseb128: awesome, thanks!15:54
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, one of the tons things I'm doing right now :)16:19
seb128Trevinho, hey, I also assigned you a new segfault for the client side decoration (not sure if noticed), showed up on e.u.c today16:21
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, I saw the email... then my firefox decided not to load gmail... (and I can't restart it now) :)16:22
Laneyseb128: nice one16:26
kenvandineseb128, sorry, was in a meeting... the armhf builders for ppas, those are virtual aren't they?  only the archive gets real hardware?16:35
seb128kenvandine, depends of the ppa I think, normal ppas don't have armhf, do they?16:38
kenvandineno... but my ppa does16:38
kenvandinebut i think by default they're virtual16:39
seb128that's likely yes16:39
kenvandinei bet it's hitting this same qemu thing signond hit a while back16:39
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* Sweetshark hugs mterry!18:01
Sweetsharkmterry: thanks for the MIRs!18:01
mterrySweetshark, :)18:02
Sweetshark... esp. since I missed the subscriptions ...18:04
Sweetsharkmterry: seb128 and me werent sure: Do I need another one for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice-dictionaries ? Its essentially a source package rename from openoffice.org-dictionaries -- same codebase and all binary packages from it used to be in main before.18:05
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mterrySweetshark, is there new packaging?18:06
mterrySweetshark, if packaging changed, it doesn't hurt to get a quick once over, but meh.  Not a *huge* deal either way18:07
mterrySweetshark, I would just run through the checklist and make sure a team is subscribed to bugs, etc18:07
Sweetsharkmterry: the packaging was updated, based on the old stuff. seb128 had a glace over it. mostly updating debhelper, killing dpatch and some lintian nags.18:08
mterrySweetshark, just make sure a bug subscriber exists and you're fine18:08
Sweetsharkmterry: 'The subscription has been created.'18:09
Sweetshark(30 seconds before this conversation)18:09
* Sweetshark is no a quick learner. But on the third try, there is a chance that he gets it.18:10
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