[00:40] <arch_rules> hello could i have some ubuntu touch help xD
[00:41] <arch_rules> what terminal does ubuntu touch 14.04 use?
[00:43] <arch_rules> helllllo?
[00:44] <arch_rules> helo.....
[00:44] <arch_rules>  what terminal does ubuntu touch 14.04 use?
[00:44] <daker> arch_rules: a specific QML app wit konsole plugin
[00:45] <arch_rules> ok
[00:45] <arch_rules> thank you
[00:45] <daker> http://konsole.kde.org/
[00:45] <arch_rules> otherwise im getting board of using adb all the time
[00:46] <daker> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-terminal-dev/ubuntu-terminal-app/trunk/files
[00:46] <daker> konsole plugi https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-terminal-dev/ubuntu-terminal-app/plugin/files
[00:46] <daker> plugin*
[01:05] <arch_rules> what is the pakage name for the ubuntu terminal app in the repo
[01:07] <daker> i am not really sure if it's present in the main repo
[01:08] <arch_rules> ahhhh
[01:08] <arch_rules> because the app in the system wont launch
[01:08] <arch_rules> and cya xD
[01:08] <daker> you mean on the phone ?
[01:21] <cwayne> terminal app isn't in the repos as its a click pacakge
[04:08] <Asif> hello
[04:09] <Asif> any one tell me that how i port ubuntu touch in Nokia lumia 520
[04:11] <RAOF> Asif: With difficulty - the first part would be to get an Android 4.4 install on it, which you'll need to break the bootloader to do.
[04:11] <RAOF> Asif: Unless someone has published a jailbreak for the Lumias that I'm not aware of :)
[04:20] <RAOF> Asif: A reasonable answer to “how do I port Ubuntu Touch to the Nokia Lumias” is “you can't”.
[04:22] <RAOF> Asif: *If* you can break the firmware to load arbitrary code, the next step is to get an Android 4.4 image running on the hardware, which will likely require kernel patches and may require reverse-engineering some drivers.
[04:22] <RAOF> Asif: *Then* it's easy :)
[04:23] <Asif_> but microsoft  make it so secure to jailbreakit
[04:25] <RAOF> Asif_: Right. Which is why a reasonable answer is “you *can't* port to the Lumias”.
[04:26] <Asif_> RIGHT
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
[08:53] <dholbach> ralsina_, beuno: should we have a discussion at next week's UDS about software store plans/roadmap?
[09:24] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy St Piran's Day! :-D
[10:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:26] <madax12345> Hi !
[11:26] <madax12345> Can I install ubuntu phone OS on my Samsuns S2 ?
[12:09] <ralsina_> dholbach: yes we should
[12:09] <ralsina_> dholbach: I mean we should have a discussion at UDS about software store plans/etc
[12:10] <dholbach> ralsina_, ok cool
[12:50] <dholbach> ralsina_, beuno: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1403-software-store-roadmap :)
[12:51] <ralsina_> dholbach: thanks!
[13:02] <beuno> dholbach, thanks!
[13:29] <cwayne> mardy, hey,t hanks for merging that stuff!  I got an account-plugin on my phone created by a click package! :D
[13:39] <mardy> cwayne: actually, it got reverted :-(
[13:39] <mardy> cwayne: we'll land it after Qt 5.2
[13:41] <cwayne> :(
[13:41] <cwayne> i was so excited too
[13:43] <cwayne> mardy, so when i did have it installed, i couldn't see any accounts in my app, so I assume there's some app-side changes that I'd need to make?
[13:43] <cwayne> or was it just broken
[13:46] <mardy> cwayne: with the new OA, now when you create an account by default all services are disabled
[13:47] <mardy> cwayne: the app needs to request access to the accounts
[13:47] <mardy> cwayne: let me find a useful link...
[13:47] <cwayne> mardy, so that's with the account-application hook right?
[13:47] <cwayne> or is there something int he actual qml that needs doing
[13:47] <mardy> cwayne: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/friends-app/app-access/+merge/198365
[13:47] <mardy> cwayne: something in the QML
[13:47] <mardy> cwayne: see the Setup element
[13:47] <mardy> cwayne: and notice that its exec() method gets called
[13:48] <mardy> cwayne: basically, you set a provider ID in this Setup element, and when you call exec(), OA will be invoked and propmt the user to give your application access to an account of that type
[13:49] <mardy> cwayne: either by enabling a service on an existing account, or by creating a new account
[13:49] <cwayne> mardy, ah, ok
[13:49] <cwayne> so can you still get a list of accounts first, to choose which one to use?
[13:50] <mardy> cwayne: yes, but if you app was never authorized to use an account, this list will be empty
[13:51] <mardy> cwayne: does your app support a single account provider, or many ones?
[13:51] <cwayne> ah ok, so how do i get the initial authorization to use an account then
[13:51] <cwayne> mardy, just one
[13:52] <mardy> cwayne: something like: Setup { id: accountSetup; applicationId: "myapp"; providerId: "facebook" }
[13:52] <mardy> cwayne: so, if your account list is empty, you can then call accountSetup.exec()
[13:52] <cwayne> mardy, so i can just call that when my app starts
[13:56] <mardy> cwayne: no, better call it only if the account list is empty
[13:57] <mardy> cwayne: though as a user, I'd rather like have a screen which tells me "You have no accounts for MyApp; press here to configure one"
[13:59] <cwayne> mardy, ah, that makes sense
[13:59] <cwayne> mardy, once it gets in, could you update this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/336069/how-do-i-use-oauth-from-an-ubuntu-touch-app
[13:59] <cwayne> i know that's where i got my info from :)
[14:02] <mardy> cwayne: I'll try :-)
[14:03] <mardy> cwayne: I'll write a long blog post about it
[14:04] <cwayne> mardy, great :)  for now i'll try it out here, and i'll let you know if i can get it working
[14:36] <cwayne> mardy, so I think i've gotten kinda close, by copying your app-access MP from reminders-app :D  but clicking the 'add account' button does nothing, I suppose I should now wait til this is actually merged/promoted
[14:36] <cwayne> aquarius, hey, are you actually working on that component store thing for developers?
[14:37] <cwayne> if so, i think a 'choose an online account to sign in with' page would be an amazingly good thing to have there
[14:37] <mardy> cwayne: what version of u-s-s-o-a do you have installed?
[14:38] <cwayne> mardy, 0.3+14.04.20140304-0ubuntu1
[14:38] <mardy> cwayne: mmm... then it should work
[14:39] <mardy> cwayne: try this:
[14:39] <mardy> cwayne: killall online-accounts-ui
[14:39] <mardy> cwayne: export OAU_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=9000
[14:39] <mardy> cwayne: export OAU_LOGGING_LEVEL=2
[14:40] <mardy> cwayne: online-accounts-ui --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/online-accounts-ui.desktop
[14:40] <mardy> cwayne: and try again?
[14:44] <mardy> Laney: hi! renato_ confirms that the new SyncEvolution is working fine
[14:44] <Laney> mardy: ok, will upload it shortly then
[14:44] <Laney> thanks
[14:45] <cwayne> mardy, ah, so now with click-package online-accounts, the provider has to be the click name
[14:45] <cwayne> so for example instead of provider:'fitbit' i now need provder 'com.ubuntu.developer.cwayne18.fitbit_provider'
[14:46] <mardy> cwayne: yes, without the version number
[14:46] <mardy> cwayne: correct
[14:46] <mardy> cwayne: are you 18 y.o. or born in 1918? ;-)
[14:47] <renato_> mardy, cwayne, but the old way still working?
[14:47] <tedg> mandel, Is there a design spec for the download manager? Trying to gather transfer menu requirements.
[14:47] <renato_> mardy, for example the sync monitor still a debian package
[14:47] <cwayne> mardy, lol, born on the 18th of may :)
[14:47] <cwayne> mardy, so this brings me to add an account, how would i enable an account i've already added from u-s-s-o-a for example?
[14:47] <mandel> tedg, are you talking about a design ui spec? or a technical one?
[14:49] <tedg> mandel, Well, both if they exist :-)
[14:49] <Laney> boiko: bfiller: Do you have some time to test landing-002?
[14:49] <tedg> mandel, What can I ask for?  ;-)
[14:50] <Laney> It's the tones-in-accountsservice MP that I did a few weeks ago
[14:50] <Laney> trying to land it now
[14:50] <bfiller> Laney: sure I can test that today, boiko  you should as well
[14:50] <Laney> thanks
[14:50] <boiko> Laney: yep, will do
[14:50] <Laney> I put some manual testing notes on there
[14:50] <Laney> great
[14:51] <mandel> tedg, there is no ui design afaik, there is a blueprint for the qml work for udm (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1311-udm-sdk) and wiki docs for the dbus api (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadService)
[14:52] <mandel> tedg, you can also find a doc folder with the xml definitions for the dbus interface and a dia diagram with a descrition of a state machine that represents a download (in lp:ubuntu-download-manager)
[14:53] <tedg> mandel, Cool, thanks!
[14:54] <mandel> tedg, but, you can ask me everything you want, there are changes Ihave not been able to do due to lack of hours in a day :-/
[14:55] <tedg> mandel, Sure, I just feel a bit behind on what is happening there. Trying to catch up.
[14:55] <tedg> mandel, Trying to figure out how the transfer indicator should work.
[14:55] <cwayne> mardy, ok so i can add an account, but it never shows up in my list still, maybe cus i'm missing the .application hook?
[14:55] <tedg> mandel, It seems like download service is a major part of it.
[14:56] <mandel> tedg, wanna do a hangout?
[14:56] <mandel> tedg, I can explain more or less what udm does right and does wrong (I think there is room for improvement)
[14:56] <tedg> mandel, Uhm, eventually, I'm not sure I know enough to ask questions yet :-)
[14:56]  * tedg really knows the name more than anything right now.
[14:58] <mandel> tedg, well, I can give you a super quick over view, that will give you a head start, rather than read the code
[14:58] <mandel> tedg, but whatever is better for you
[14:58] <tedg> mandel, Sure, let's try it.
[14:59] <mandel> tedg, ok, lets do it now if you can, that way we have the transfers indicator after and we get there with more info and better ideas
[15:00] <bfiller> tedg, mandel : there is a UI design for both the transfer indicator and content hub integration in the browser
[15:00] <bfiller> tedg: you need links?
[15:00] <tedg> bfiller, Please!
[15:02] <bfiller> one sec
[15:08] <mardy> cwayne: oh, yes, you definitely need an .application file
[15:08] <cwayne> figured as much :)
[15:09] <cwayne> although i added it, and now clicking add account does nothing
[15:09] <cwayne> where would issues be logged?
[15:11] <cwayne> ok, so i got it back to being able to add an account, still empty though, maybe i have a broken .application
[15:17] <SFiege> hi @ all
[15:18] <SFiege> i have an question is it posible to install java to ubuntu touch?
[15:22] <ogra> you can make the image writable and install openjdk from the archive
[15:22] <ogra> (i remember someone ran a tomcat server that way on his phone)
[15:24] <SFiege> hm i need oracle java i want to try unicenta on the nexus 7 unicenta needs java from oracle
[15:31] <popey> SFiege: you can actually package up a jvm if your app needs it
[15:31] <popey> SFiege: the Bitcoin app in the store is a qml app which has a C++ plugin calling some java nonsense, and ships with a full jvm
[15:32] <TrueNhero1> hi how could i install the touch interface on pc?
[15:33] <SFiege> ok, where can i get more information to do some thinks like the bitcoin app
[15:33] <TrueNhero1> is for enhaced the rdp from android experience
[15:40] <popey> SFiege: you could download the app from the store and pick it apart
[15:49] <mhall119> didrocks: I'm starting to feel like an Android user, complaining about my phone not getting any OS updates in days :(
[15:49] <didrocks> mhall119: well, don't tell me :p
[15:50] <mhall119> but you're my dealer
[15:50] <mhall119> I mean, um, ...
[15:50] <aquarius> he's just trying to get you on to the stronger more dangerous stuff
[15:50] <aquarius> -proposed ;)
[15:50] <didrocks> mhall119: heh :)
[15:50] <mhall119> lol
[16:44] <mpt> What component/package in Ubuntu Touch is responsible for the screen rotation?
[16:53] <davmor2> mpt: qtsensors maybe
[16:54] <mpt> davmor2, maybe, though that has no open bug reports
[16:55] <ogra> heh
[16:55] <ogra> is that a requirement ?
[16:57] <k1l> a software without bugs doesnt exist, so yeah :)
[16:57] <ogra> hehe
[17:00] <pmcgowan> mpt, I think unity8 does the detection using the sensor service saviq would know
[17:01] <mpt> Thanks pmcgowan, I marked bug 1288332 as involving unity8 then
[17:01] <pmcgowan> cool
[17:04] <nik90> hey guys I heard that image #220 and above is running Qt 5.2. Is that true?
[17:04] <ogra> nope
[17:04] <nik90> also when can we expect Qt 5.2 to be pushed into the trusty archive
[17:04] <ogra> whoever told you that was lying :)
[17:05] <ogra> soon :)
[17:05] <nik90> ogra: ah...
[17:05]  * nik90 wished it was true
[17:06] <ogra> its already banging at the door ... we just havent opened it yet :)
[17:07] <nik90> hehe
[17:07] <kenvandine> i think the door is unlocked now, just not opened yet :)
[17:07] <ogra> yeah ... getting closer every minute :)
[17:12] <genii> Does anyone know yet the specs of the Meizu and BQ handsets?
[17:14] <ogra> genii, meizu will be MX3 ... most likely like it is today ... bq ... not yet
[17:14] <genii> ogra: Cool, thanks
[17:15] <balloons> renato_, keep in touch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1285958. Let me know if you need help testing, etc :-)
[17:15] <ogra> geez, keep it !
[17:15] <ogra> who wants to get alarms on a sunday !
[17:16] <ogra> sell it as a feature :)
[17:16] <popey> hah!
[17:16] <balloons> lol ogra
[17:16] <nik90> lol
[17:17] <nik90> ogra: and guess what we had AP tests failing only on Saturday and Sunday..How convenient for me :D
[17:19] <genii> ogra: But what if it's recurring alarms to remind you to attend chirch service? ;)
[17:19] <genii> *church
[17:21] <ogra> my church around the corner has its own alarm clock ...
[17:21] <ogra> they have put it in a tower
[17:33] <Saviq> pmcgowan, mpt, rotation is done entirely in the toolkit right now
[17:34] <Saviq> will be mediated through unity8 later when we implement rotation locking and such
[18:05] <mx6523> does anyone know what happened to the ubuntu wiki? i want to learn about the process of porting ubuntu touch
[18:07] <mx6523> oh, according to isup.me, wiki.ubuntu.com is up? i wonder why i can't access it
[18:11] <mx6523> okay, i accessed the wiki by using a proxy.. what in the world?
[19:04] <ogra> slangasek, wow, upstart-monitor behaves pretty odd on Ubuntu Touch
[19:04] <ogra> (even --help is ignored)
[19:17] <slangasek> ogra: it's a gtk application, as I recall?
[19:17] <ogra> the manpage talks about --no-gui
[19:17] <slangasek> hmm
[19:17] <slangasek> dunno then
[19:17] <ogra> but i dont even get it to display the usage info
[19:18] <ogra> it jumps directly into Gtk execution
[19:20] <ogra> slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040149/
[19:20] <slangasek> ogra: so you appear to not be passing --no-gui here
[19:20] <ogra> gives the same output
[19:21] <ogra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040154/
[19:21] <ogra> with --no-gui
[19:28] <slangasek> ogra: ok, well, clearly a bug then, please file a bug report
[19:28] <ogra> will do
[20:01] <barry> mandel: hi there, did you find out anything?
[20:42] <dobey> how do i get the new scopes on the current image?
[20:43] <mandel> barry, I did, will have a fix very soon :)
[20:44] <barry> mandel: awesome.  i'll test it out as soon as it's ready, and we'll try to get the new udm and si in a landing silo
[20:47] <nomads> hi i just installed ubuntu touch on a galaxy nexus but its frozen how can i restart the galaxy nexus
[21:35] <SFiege> hi @ all
[21:35] <SFiege> is there any way to start an sh script on an tablet
[21:52] <SFiege> some one how can help me
[22:03] <stgraber> Tassadar: I think I processed all your merge proposals now, let me know if you still have some changes on your side.
[22:03] <Tassadar> I do, but I don't think you want those in trunk
[22:04] <Tassadar> stgraber: see last two or three commits to https://code.launchpad.net/~vbocek/+junk/system-image-server-tasemnice
[22:05] <Tassadar> one is grabbing version number from other s-i server and aborting build if there is no new version on that server
[22:06] <Tassadar> and second is applying "patches" to the rootfs downloaded via remote-system-image generator
[22:14] <stgraber> Tassadar: why aren't you just building another tarball with those patches, similar to what I do with the keyring tarball? that'd save you a whole lot of uncompress/compress time
[22:15] <Tassadar> I overwrite files in rootfs with another tarball -> the fixes get into ubuntu rootfs -> I remove those files from that additional tarball I created
[22:15] <Tassadar> won't that remove those files?
[22:15] <barry> mandel: let me know when you have a source package ready and i'll upload it to my testing ppa: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/systemimage
[22:15] <Tassadar> like, the delta from that will have them as "removed", won't it?
[22:15] <barry> mandel: and we'll see if the armhf builder can build it :/
[22:21] <stgraber> Tassadar: hmm, yeah and I can't think of a nice way around this... I guess if we ever get into that case with the production server I'd have to introduce some kind of whitelist of files which did move between tarballs and have the delta generator only includes things that aren't in that list into remove_list
[22:21] <Tassadar> yeah
[22:23] <Tassadar> stgraber: by the way, does the renaming of s-i channels means I have to change something on my s-i server? Apart from changing the addresses of s-i.u.com in config to include /ubuntu-touch/ before the redirections get removed?
[22:34] <stgraber> Tassadar: that should be all you'll have to do. I believe the remote-system-image code parses channels.json and index.json properly so it should follow the redirect just fine.
[22:34] <Tassadar> cool, thanks
[22:45] <ddsss> what 10 in tablet to buy that has good ubuntu-touch support?
[22:50] <genii> Nexus? ;)
[22:58] <ddsss> genii, didnt they drop nexus 10?
[22:59] <genii> ddsss: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install indicates active development for the 10", 7" ( codename Grouper) is deprecated though
[23:00] <ddsss> genii, not sure: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Ubuntu-Touch-drops-Nexus-7-and-10-support-wont-add-Nexus-5-support-yet_id51343
[23:03] <genii> ddsss: First I'd heard
[23:06] <ddsss> genii, k. thanks ill recheck
[23:38] <arch_rules> how can i get phablet flash to work
[23:39] <popey> arch_rules: we recommend ubuntu-device-flash now, not phablet-flash
[23:39] <popey> arch_rules: ubuntu-device-flash is a golang binary, so should be fairly easy to get working on arch (assuming from your nickname that's what you're using)
[23:40] <arch_rules> It is for the flipped-vision (htc desire z). it is recommended to use phablet-flash community --wipe -d vision
[23:40] <popey> ah, okay.
[23:40] <arch_rules> i am in trusty daily on this laptop. arch is on my desktop
[23:40] <arch_rules> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/flipped_vision
[23:41] <popey> I haven't used phablet-flash with a community spin, sorry.
[23:41] <arch_rules> k thanks anyway