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Kilosmorning all05:22
Private_Usermorning everybody05:37
Private_Usermorning Kilos05:37
Kiloshi Private_User 05:37
bduk1Morning everyone05:44
Kiloshi bduk1 05:45
Private_Usermorning bduk105:48
bduk1Dont want to hear nothing from the gauteng people about rain, hope all had enough. I like this weather.05:50
Kiloshi jabberwocky93 05:53
Kilosyeah bduk1 wonderful05:53
Kilosnw province still having a droubt05:54
Kilosdrought05:54
inetprogood morning05:54
inetproand hi Kilos05:55
Kilosmorninet05:55
Kilosoh my05:55
Kilosmorning inetpro 05:55
Kilosgoing mad here. using tab complete after morn05:55
Kilosanother 17mm last night inetpro 05:56
inetprosjoe05:57
inetprojust 2.5 on my side05:57
Kiloswow05:57
jabberwocky93morning all06:01
Spekkomorning peeepil06:05
Kiloshi Spekko 06:05
magespawngood morning06:09
Kiloshi magespawn 06:09
ThatGraemeGuymorning all06:32
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:32
Private_Usermorning jabberwocky93, inetpro, Spekko, magespawn, ThatGraemeGuy06:40
Private_Userand I have already greeted Kilos so nobody ask why he is not included06:40
SpekkoMorning Private_User06:40
Private_User:D06:40
Kiloshehe06:40
SpekkoMorning Kilos (Private user made me feel bad for not mentioning by name)06:40
Kiloshow far are you with cleaning the desktop pc06:41
SpekkoMaaz: coffee on06:41
* Maaz washes some mugs06:41
Private_Useroh thanks for reminding me Kilos06:41
Private_Usergonna do it now06:41
Kiloshehe06:41
KilosMaaz coffee please06:42
MaazKilos: Yessir06:42
Kilosoh my06:42
Kiloslagging hey Maaz 06:42
Private_UserMaaz: coffee06:42
MaazPrivate_User: coffee is liquid code06:42
Private_UserMaaz: coffee please06:42
MaazPrivate_User: Righto06:42
jabberwocky93morning Private_User06:43
inetprohi Private_User06:43
MaazCoffee's ready for Spekko, Kilos and Private_User!06:45
KilosMaaz gracias amigo06:46
Maaz¡de nada compadre06:46
Private_UserMaaz: THANK YOU06:50
MaazPrivate_User: Sure06:50
Kiloswow after using opera browser for many months i just found it has lots of extensions06:59
KilosMaaz seen golynx06:59
MaazKilos: golynx was last seen 11 hours, 44 minutes and 57 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-04 11:15:00 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-03-04 11:50:59 PST06:59
Private_UserI just found a ghekko inside the power supply07:19
Private_Userwondering if that could have been causing the random shutdowns07:20
Squirma good mate of mine found a fried one in his PSU07:22
Squirmit was shorting it out07:22
Squirmwhich was tripping the mains on the DB board07:22
Squirmtook them a while to figure it out07:22
Kiloshehe07:22
Kilosinetpro it seems to be making up for all the years of min rain07:25
Kilospouring here07:25
Kilospoor sheep dont enjoy this weather07:26
Private_Usergecko is that the correct spelling?07:31
KilosMaaz spell ghecko07:31
MaazKilos: Suggestions: Gecko or gecko07:32
Private_UserMaaz: Define Gecko07:35
MaazPrivate_User: Gecko \Geck"o\ (g[e^]k"[-o]), n.; pl. {Geckoes} (g[e^]k"[=o]z). [Cf. F. & G. gecko; -- so called from the sound which the animal utters.] (Zool.) Any lizard of the family {Geckonid[ae]}. The geckoes are small, carnivorous, mostly nocturnal animals with large eyes and vertical, elliptical pupils. Their toes are generally expanded, and furnished with07:35
Maazadhesive disks, by which they can run over walls and ceilings. They are numerous in warm c…07:35
Private_UserI hate them, geckos that is07:36
bduk1They are great eating a lot of mozies and other small insects Private_User 07:37
Private_UserI don't mind them outside since they keep the insect population in check but inside the house is a definite no, no07:37
Kilosthey mess up the walls and windows07:39
Kilosdoom kills many more mossies07:39
Kilosmozzies07:39
Private_Usernot forgetting finding their faeces everywhere07:49
Kilosyeah07:49
Kilosthey good outside07:50
Private_UserI think this Desktop is clean enough08:05
Kilosbe sure, dont think, thionking is bad for the brain08:11
Kiloswhew so many typos08:11
Kilosanother net-split day looks like08:15
Kilosohi superfly 08:15
waanieHi Guys 08:33
waanieI have been using linux for about 10 years08:35
waanieubuntu from about 201008:36
waanieI use it as a desktop os as well as a LAMP server with zpanel08:46
waanieI use it as a reverse proxy and I use bacula for backups08:47
waanielooking at puttin zentiyal down at some point to see what I can get from there08:47
ThatGraemeGuywelcome08:50
ThatGraemeGuypull up a chair and enjoy the peace and quiet ;-)08:50
waaniethanks08:53
waanieI am in port elizabeth08:53
waanienot too many folks out here that use it08:54
waanieanybody doing interesting things with ubuntu08:54
superflyohi08:58
waanie_I decided to install xchat09:02
waanie_I am still here09:02
waanie_are there any folks from PE09:04
waanie_looking for a project to work on and to learn09:04
waanie_I am interested in web technologies like node and ruby09:14
kbmonkeygood day 0/09:43
nuvolarioh hi kbmonkey 09:43
nuvolarithis is not a trick question: is there a solution to binary file version control?09:43
nuvolarieveryone says "Don't store binary files in X"09:43
nuvolaribut there is no solution to where it *should* go09:43
kbmonkeyhi nuvolari 09:44
kbmonkeywell git can store binary files!09:44
kbmonkeygranted you can't always store diffs, so if the data stays unchanged for most of the time09:45
kbmonkeyyou're golden09:45
nuvolarikbmonkey: that's the issue :P09:47
kbmonkeyif the files are very large, you can symlink instead. git stores the symlinks, and use some backup system for the big files09:47
nuvolarithemes come to mind09:47
nuvolarilots and lots of image data09:47
nuvolarinow the issue with that is to get non-VCS-savvy people to use it09:47
kbmonkeydamn that is a tricky one!09:48
nuvolariwords can't describe my hate for subversion at this moment09:50
kbmonkeywell, share the images and a backup snaps them every so often. then refresh and commit the changed images within the release branch?09:51
kbmonkeythat is, during development they can change the images till they go blue, and you only take them into the code at the end.09:52
magespawnnuvolari, make them VCS savvy?10:29
Private_Userhey anybody else experiencing slow internet connectivity?11:19
Private_Useror is it just me?11:20
kbmonkeynuvolari, tell them they should get professional XD11:48
magespawnlater all 11:49
kbmonkeygood day12:39
Private_Userafternoon all13:47
Private_Useranybody else experiencing connectivity issues to the internet?13:47
theblazehenPrivate_User, nope13:50
Private_Userok know of any issues with 3G today or with CellC 3G connectivity?13:50
Private_UserI am unable to get to any sites13:51
Private_Userjust pinged google.com13:52
Private_Usergot 3 request time outs13:52
Private_Userand the last one was a reply13:52
Private_UserReply from 173.194.34.100: bytes=32 time=3619ms TTL=5013:52
Private_Userthere definitely is a delay some where13:53
Private_Userhey anybody here know for a blue cable and white cable which would be the negative and positive14:26
Private_User?14:26
Private_Userthis is for a power switch for a desktop14:26
Golynxhi Private_User14:26
Private_Userhi Golynx14:27
Golynxusually when i was an electrician the blue was the neutral wire, meaning negative14:27
Private_Userok and if its red and white?14:28
Private_Userand also green and black?14:28
Golynxbut i could be wrong. That depends on the manufacturer that made it 14:28
Private_User:(14:28
Private_Usermy internet is not working so not able to search14:28
Golynxred will always be positive charge and black negative14:29
GolynxMaaz google blue cable white cable negative and positive14:29
MaazGolynx: "Wiring Color Codes : Color Codes - All About Circuits" http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_2/2.html :: "Which speaker wire is the negative the black or the striped" http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_speaker_wire_is_the_negative_the_black_or_the_striped :: "USB pins of the four wires inside the USB - Black and Red, White ..."14:30
Maazhttp://geopeter.hubpages.com/hub/USB-pins-o-the-four-wires-inside-the-USB-Black-and-Red-White-and-Green :: "Color …14:30
Golynxhmm :/14:30
Private_Userthe writing on this motherboard is so tiny for these power/reset switches14:32
GolynxMaaz google blue wire negative pc14:32
MaazGolynx: "G and triangle, negative or positive cables [Solved] - New Build ..." http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/294741-31-triangle-negative-positive-cables :: "Wiring Color Codes : Color Codes - All About Circuits" http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_2/2.html :: "Color Code of Wires inside the USB - Mark Johann - HubPages" http://markjohann.hubpages.com/hub14:32
Maaz/Color-Coded-Wire-inside-the-USB :: "USB pins of the four wires inside the USB - Black a…14:32
Golynxai 14:32
GolynxPrivate_User is it only on the switch that the wire is loose14:33
Private_UserI am trying to reconnect it and I forgot to write down this stuff14:34
Private_UserI dis-assemble the whole machine14:34
Private_Usernow re-assembling14:34
Golynxoh, thats bad14:35
Golynxbut a switch is just a switch. If you can remove the wires and there were only 2 in there then it should'nt matter which place the wire fits in the switch14:36
Private_Userok thanks Golynx14:38
Golynxbut i have to be there to know whats going on, else i'm not much help14:38
Golynxgood luck14:38
Private_Userthey have the lables what they for just not which is + or -14:38
Private_Useron the mobo it states which side the - and + go14:38
Private_UserI assumed these things could only go in 1 way14:39
Private_Userthat is how I managed to plug everything else 14:39
Golynxif the + marker on the switch then thats the white wire generally. For the - marker the blue wire14:40
Golynxits best to check the manual to not make critical mistakes that could damage your pc14:41
Private_Userok my internet seems to be working now let me check on the manufactures website14:41
Golynxgood14:41
Golynxhope its not a bomb your trying to diffuse :p14:42
Private_Useror build14:44
Private_User:D14:44
Private_Userhehe14:44
Golynxlol14:44
Private_Usernope not building a bomb just now NSA, FBI listening and will think we terrorists14:44
Private_UserO:-)14:44
Private_Userlol14:45
Private_Userdude but imagine somebody trying to diffuse a bomb and asking for help on IRC14:45
Private_Userthat would make a funny movie14:46
Golynxhahaha yeah it would14:46
nuvolarikbmonkey: I found boar14:53
nuvolariwhich seems promising14:53
nuvolarihttps://code.google.com/p/boar/14:53
nuvolariBinary Object ARchive14:53
nuvolariseems smiple14:53
nuvolarier14:53
nuvolarisimple14:53
Private_Userhey can anyone tell me if its normal for a CPU to be stuck to a HeatSink/Fan15:09
Private_Userwhen I removed it it came out very easily but now I am not sire how to put it back and whether it will align properly if I do or is it possible to do so?15:09
Private_User*sure15:09
Private_Useror do you guys suggest I remove it first from the heatsink15:09
Private_User?15:09
ThatGraemeGuyPrivate_User: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_grease15:09
ThatGraemeGuyOver time, some thermal greases may dry out, have reduced heat transferring capabilities, or set like glue and make it difficult to remove the heat sink. If too much force is applied the processor may be damaged. Heating the grease by turning the processor on for a short period often softens the adhesion. Another method to use can be by turning the heatsink slowly instead of lifting it up. It is recommended that thermal 15:11
ThatGraemeGuygrease be re-applied with each removal of the heatsink.[14]15:11
ThatGraemeGuyif you remove it from the heatsink you will need to properly clean the existing thermal paste and apply a fresh coat15:12
ThatGraemeGuyit's a bit of an art unto itself, you have to put on enough that its effective, but not too much either15:12
Private_Usereish but I have none and the heat sink and fan is off came off easily with the CPU stuck to it15:13
Private_Userwhat happens if I use without the thermal paste?15:16
ThatGraemeGuyheat dissipation is likely to be less than optimal15:16
ThatGraemeGuyif its stuck it should be ok15:16
ThatGraemeGuyunless you specifically need to take it off the heatsink for some reason15:16
ThatGraemeGuywhat cpu is it?15:17
Private_Usernope I do not but I am not sure how to put it back on the motherboard15:19
Private_Userwill I be able to just place on?15:20
Private_Userits an intel processor15:20
Private_Usergigabyte mobo15:21
ThatGraemeGuyusually there's only 1 way it'll go in15:23
ThatGraemeGuyyou don't know the specific type of processor? "intel" doesn't do much to narrow it down ;-)15:24
Private_Userlol15:29
Private_Usersorry ThatGraemeGuy I cannot remember, Intel P4 @GHz processor I think15:29
Private_Usersince the CPU is stuck on cannot read from there either15:30
Private_User*2GHz15:30
ThatGraemeGuywww.dansdata.com/images/i845s/p4pins440.jpg15:30
ThatGraemeGuysomething like that?15:30
Private_Useryeah the pins look about right but the middle is slightly different15:33
Private_UserI am trying to search for an image to show you15:35
ThatGraemeGuyok, but in that image ^^^ you see how the bottom right corner has 2 pins missing? the socket will similary have 2 pins blocked up, so the cpu is physically only capable of going in correctly15:37
Private_Userok but I thought you have to always lift the lever and then insert?15:38
Private_Userso I could just insert without lifting the lever?15:38
Private_Usereish everywhere I read on the net it says I have to remove it but then how did it come off so easily when I removed the heatsink/fan. It should have been difficult I would assume since the lever is supposed to lock the CPU in place15:44
Kilosafternoon all. no power today while eskom planted new poles15:44
Kiloswhat i missed15:45
Kiloswhat you breaking Private_User 15:45
Private_Userand also I do not have thermal paste so if I remove it from the heat sink I will have to re-apply before re-inserting so I am just in a bit of a twist at the moment not sure whgat to do or just take a chance15:45
Private_Userhaha hi Kilos15:45
Private_UserI am putting this desktop together15:46
Private_Userbut the CPU is stuck to the heatsink/fan15:46
Kilosya the paste is holding it15:46
Private_Userit came off so easily when I removed it thought it was the way this motherboard worked15:47
ThatGraemeGuyoh, i forgot about those lever things :-/15:47
Private_Userbut now I am scared to put it back just like that15:47
Kiloshave you lifted it off the m/board15:47
* ThatGraemeGuy not too much of a hardware guy15:47
Private_Userno worries ThatGraemeGuy you are very helpful15:47
Private_Userthanks15:47
ThatGraemeGuysorry..... it turns out i'm more useless than initially assumed :-D15:47
Kilosai!15:47
Private_Userbut now I wondering take a chance or wait for thermal paste15:47
ThatGraemeGuyaaaand my afterhours tasks are done, i'm off, have a good evening15:48
Kilosdont say things like that ThatGraemeGuy 15:48
GolynxPrivate_User you can try ##hardware too, lots of "know how to" guys there15:49
Golynxhi Kilos15:49
Kiloshi Golynx 15:49
Private_Userthanks Golynx15:50
KilosMaaz forecast pretoria15:58
MaazKilos: Tuesday: Mostly Cloudy. High: 24° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 20° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 24° C., Wednesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Thursday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 22° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 23° C., Friday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 17° C.,15:58
MaazSaturday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. …15:58
Kilosgrrrr16:59
theblazehenhello17:03
Kiloshi theblazehen 17:03
Kiloshi kiselenok 19:59
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za19:59
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:04
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