[00:01] <adamcunnington> ?
[00:05] <Pici> adamcunnington: by default it will install the one with the most greatest version number, which is usually what you want.
[00:06] <adamcunnington> Pici: ok great thanks, which one does it display description for though because apt-cache search looks like the core repository
[00:06] <rocktop> any ubuntu best torrent tracker please ?
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: do you actually want to know about ubuntu or centos ?
[00:07] <Pici> adamcunnington: take a look at apt-cache policy's output to determine where it is looking
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: they have quite different packages available, so I'm just asking you to clarify
[00:07] <rocktop> ikonia:  I have both
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: are you trying to use them together or totally seperate ?
[00:07] <rocktop> ikonia:  any one available will be the good
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: what sort of functionality do you want as "best" is pretty open ?
[00:08] <adamcunnington> Pici: yea, i checked it out in synaptics, thanks mate
[00:08] <rocktop> ikonia:  I don't find anything for centos , and I am looking some one for ubuntu
[00:08] <ikonia> rocktop: search for "torrent" in the package manager to get pretty much all available options
[00:08] <ikonia> rocktop: but if you want specific advice then you'll need to call out your requirements
[00:09] <rocktop> ikonia:  No Matches found
[00:09] <ikonia> rocktop: that seems very unlikley that there are no matches for the word torrent
[00:10] <rocktop> ikonia:  I run now my centos machine
[00:10] <rocktop> ikonia:  is there anything for centos ?
[00:10] <ikonia> rocktop: thats not really going to help you - you said you wanted ubuntu
[00:10] <ikonia> rocktop: #centos is the centos channel, that's why I asked if you wanted centos or ubuntu help
[00:11] <rocktop> ikonia:  ok thank you
[00:18] <lichen> hello
[00:19] <Synthead> how can I get the .deb files from this without adding a repo to my system? https://launchpad.net/~mqchael/+archive/pipelight
[00:20] <usr13> Synthead: WHy not add a repo?
[00:31] <Yoda3890> Anyone here... I seem to be having intermittent issues with my computer when I enter my password for any reason (login, sudo, unlock). The system seems to "hang" for a bit (30s to a min?) before successfully authenticating my password. "gnome-screensaver-command -d" works just fine when the system is "hanging." In a terminal with sudo I get an error saying it failed to contact kerberos.mit.edu becuase the connection timed out.
[00:34] <Yoda3890> Okay, I don't think I'm seeing any messages here. Gonna quit and reconnect under my actual login and repost question.
[00:36] <nbros652> Anyone here... I seem to be having intermittent issues with my computer when I enter my password for any reason (login, sudo, unlock). The system seems to "hang" for a bit (30s to a min?) before successfully authenticating my password. "gnome-screensaver-command -d" works just fine when the system is "hanging." In a terminal with sudo I get an error saying it failed to contact kerberos.mit.edu becuase the connection timed out.
[00:36] <theTroy> how to print out what dd reads from the disk? And could I start dd from half-way? (I got a new HDD want to check there is no data on it)
[00:37] <daftykins> theTroy: brand new or second hand new?
[00:38] <theTroy> daftykins: brand new, want to make sure its not a "returned" brand new drive
[00:38] <daftykins> heh, the SMART data of power cycles might help with that
[00:38] <daftykins> was it not in a sealed anti-static bag?
[00:38] <theTroy> USB drive, ubuntu says SMART is not available
[00:39] <theTroy> Toshiba 2TB from amazon..., wasnt sealed :)
[00:39] <daftykins> oh 0o
[00:39] <theTroy> they never seal HDDs
[00:39] <daftykins> so it's some kind of external thing?
[00:39] <marcos_> Boa noite.
[00:40] <fibz_> i need a wifi-N card that will work, plug and play in ubuntu. does any one know of a device that works for sure in 13.10 without having to mess with drivers or firmware or anything? i just want to plug it in and have it work. what wifi adapter will do this?
[00:40] <theTroy> USB3 external drive, 2.5"
[00:45] <isasha> Just wondering, how come both chromium and firefox have such a hard time keeping up with my browsing on ubuntu, compared with os x?
[00:45] <fibz_> dont know. my xubuntu renders pages in firefox faster then windows or osx
[00:45] <isasha> On the same laptop, under ubuntu things start to visibly slow down with just a few tabs open, whereas under os x I can have a hundred tabs open before any lag starts to come
[00:46] <isasha> furthermore, if I open a tab too many, the whole system hangs and I have to force shut it down
[00:46] <isasha> ... aaand the problem now is that I force shut it down improperly and now it won't boot :/
[00:46] <fibz_> it sounds like a bigger problem than just loading pages less quickly
[00:47] <isasha> yeah it does sound like that too
[00:47] <adamcunnington> how can i check pc specs from within ubuntu? specifically cpu
[00:47] <isasha> could it be related to available disk space?
[00:48] <isasha> adamcunnington: Hit Super (Start button in windows) , Type and and open System Monitor.
[00:48] <adamcunnington> isasha: perfect thtnka
[00:48] <adamcunnington> thanks*
[00:48] <isasha> no problem ;)
[00:49] <fibz_> im my experience, it's either a problem with the sata/ide controller, a problem with the cable, a problem with the hard drive, or it is just swapping too much. cant keep up with running the system and swap. but that may not be your problem. if you dont get an answer right away, i would take this problem to the forum
[00:49] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, lscpu
[00:50] <HackerII> adamcunnington   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:50]  * HackerII goes for coffee
[00:51] <isasha> fibz_: it's an SSD and I believe it's directly connected to the mobo, and I don't have swap
[00:51] <OerHeks> HackerII, black please, and lshw is also fun
[00:51] <fibz_> that could be the issue. perhapse you should try adding a mechinical hard drive with a swap partition
[00:52] <fibz_> this laptop doesnt have swap and sometimes i have mouse lag
[00:52] <isasha> I... can't exactly add a hardrive to a laptop
[00:52] <OerHeks> No swap, those issues fit perfect
[00:52] <isasha> When I was first setting it up with ubuntu people on here told me that swap isn't neccesary
[00:52] <OerHeks> isasha, depends how you ask that
[00:53] <fibz_> well it sounds like your FSB isnt able to keep up
[00:53] <isasha> front-side bus? I have no issues on os-x which runs of the same ssd
[00:54] <fibz_> because your OSX has a SWAP
[00:54] <isasha> so.... I should set up a swap partition for ubuntu?
[00:54] <fibz_> it would at least eliminate that as the issue
[00:55] <haha> how strange it is! sometimes my ubuntu startup with command line ,sometimes xwindow
[00:56] <fibz_> your logs might tell you why
[00:56] <isasha> how big should my swap be fibz_ ? equivalent to my ram iirc?
[00:56] <fibz_> at least 2GB
[00:56] <basketball> heyo
[00:56] <Zorton> compiz desktop environment gives some kinks, it did not work
[00:56] <Zorton> Me ... why did this happen?
[00:57] <basketball> hey does gnome-screensaver actually have a screensaver
[00:58] <OerHeks> basketball, why, didn't you get any?
[00:58] <basketball> OerHeks,  how do i set yp a screensaver
[00:59] <EminentDomain> i'm having issues connecting to my windows share from ubuntu
[00:59] <EminentDomain> it keeps telling me to check my user information
[00:59] <EminentDomain> but it's accurrate
[00:59] <EminentDomain> i'm using ubuntu desktop 12.04
[01:00] <EminentDomain> i went to file-->connect to server
[01:00] <EminentDomain> selected windows share
[01:00] <EminentDomain> entered server name
[01:00] <fibz_> you have password protected sharing enabled in the windows share EminentDomain
[01:00] <EminentDomain> fibz_ what?
[01:00] <basketball> how do i set my pc up where when i press alt then a letter it types the spanish version of the letter   like in windows
[01:01] <EminentDomain> not sure what you mean by password protected sharing
[01:01] <EminentDomain> it's a server 2008 machine i have EVERYONE set to full control
[01:01] <EminentDomain> but besdies which i'm trying to connect as the administrator user
[01:02] <fibz_> are you on the same network? are you on the same workgroup? do you have samba installed? is filesharing enabled in windows? is password protected sharing enabled in windows EminentDomain?
[01:02] <EminentDomain> fibz_ yes same network
[01:03] <EminentDomain> i assume samba is installed by default with ubuntu desktop seeing as there is a built in option to connect to windows share in nautilus
[01:03] <EminentDomain> and filesharing is enabled seeing as other machines on the lan can access it
[01:03] <EminentDomain> an i have no clue what password protected sharing is in windows
[01:03] <fibz_> try sharing a folder in nautilus and make sure it doesnt ask to install anything
[01:04] <fibz_> well for windows support, you should ask in ##windows
[01:04] <haha> check your firewall?
[01:04] <haha> setreinforce 0?
[01:05] <EminentDomain> i didn't ask in windows since i'm not having an issue with windows
[01:05] <EminentDomain> it's ubuntu that wont connect
[01:05] <EminentDomain> all my windows machines are working fine
[01:06] <EminentDomain> i just looked into the password protected sharing and it was off
[01:06] <fibz_> as long as he can share a folder in nautilus and is on the same windows workgroup he should be able to access it by going to Go-> Location -> smb://2k8hostname/path/to/share
[01:06] <EminentDomain> how do i change the workgroup in ubuntu tho?
[01:06] <EminentDomain> that i am not sure of
[01:06] <fibz_> if you did not change the workgroup yourself then you are on the "WORKGROUP" workgroup
[01:06] <EminentDomain> my server is on WORKGROUP
[01:06] <EminentDomain> ok
[01:08] <basketball> how do i set my pc up where when i press alt then a letter it types the spanish version of the letter   like in windows
[01:11] <EminentDomain> ok well looks like i got it working... not sure how
[01:11] <EminentDomain> well it's not really working since i dont have permissions to do anything
[01:11] <fibz_> on which side?
[01:11] <EminentDomain> ubuntu side
[01:11] <EminentDomain> cant copy or write anything to or from
[01:12] <fibz_> that would be the effective permissions on the server side which is ##windows
[01:12] <fibz_> ##windows-server too
[01:14] <EminentDomain> nvm got it
[01:14] <EminentDomain> once i enabled password protected it worked
[01:15] <fibz_> there we go
[01:15] <EminentDomain> since i had to authenticate as a local windows user
[01:24] <Guest64197> Hey all, I'm new to ubuntu just did my first new build and am checking out all the features
[01:27] <adamcunnington> where can i modify the size of my partition?
[01:27] <adamcunnington> i created it with lvm and have ran out of space! need to increase the partition size
[01:28] <fibz_> i would boot from the install DVD/USB and use gparted
[01:30] <adamcunnington> fibz_: that sounds like a nightmare :| i just want to increase it
[01:30] <cat_pants> anyone know how to write an ubuntu iso to a flash drive? I tried doing "dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb; sync" and I tried doing "cat ubuntu.iso > /dev/sdb; sync" as root of course, and I tried using Unetbootin, which seems way too buggy to use. Any other ideas? Am I supposed to format the usb drive before trying to dd to it? After writing data to my usb drive, the volume label doesn't show up in "fdisk -l"
[01:30] <adamcunnington> apparently it's easy when using lvm
[01:30] <cat_pants> but it does show up in cfdisk for some reason
[01:32] <advx_> Good Morning all
[01:33] <adamcunnington> usr13: are you there?
[01:35] <adamcunnington> Guys, how do i extend my disk volume :|
[01:37] <psusi> cat_pants, did you verify the md5sum?
[01:44] <adamcunnington> help, i have no space on my disk and can't find out how to extend it, everything online looks incredibly complicated
[01:45] <somsip> adamcunnington: fibz_ gave you the answer already. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[01:45] <adamcunnington> somsip: read it but looks really confusing
[01:45] <somsip> adamcunnington: that's how you do it
[01:47] <adamcunnington> oh that was really easy
[01:47] <adamcunnington> all the other guides / askubuntu answers i found were horrific
[01:47] <adamcunnington> thanks
[01:49] <fibz_> your welcome
[01:49] <Viskee> anyone get a .vce reader running in ubuntu with wine?
[01:49] <Viskee> I'm getting a weird error message
[01:50] <adamcunnington> somsip: i used lvextend to increase the volume and it was succesfull but a disk usage analysis shows it's 100% still
[01:50] <somsip> adamcunnington: no idea. I don't use LVM
[01:56] <ryanx> anyone on steam?
[01:57] <somsip> !anyone | ryanx
[01:58] <Viskee> anyone have experience with vce readers in wine on ubuntu?
[01:58] <earthian> Hello, Do you know how to disable the LSHIFT+RSHIFT keyboard layout switching in Gnome 3.8? It is not enabled anywhere but still works.. Bug??
[02:01] <basketball> how do i open a sqlite2 file
[02:02] <somsip> !info sqlitebrowser | basketball
[02:03] <f3deX> :)
[02:07] <basketball> somsip,  how do i convert sqllite 2 to 3
[02:07] <Viskee> When it comes down to it, what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu paper?
[02:08] <Viskee> ubuntu server*
[02:08] <somsip> basketball: I'd guess that you dump from 2 and read into 3
[02:08] <somsip> Viskee: maybe a bit out of date but possibly helpful http://is.gd/okXjIM
[02:11] <FuuqUmiist> how well does Ubuntu work with external USB cards like those that are integrated into headphones and headsets?
[02:15] <xangua> Visual`: if you mean packages, you can install any package from repositories regardless desktop or server
[02:16] <basketball> hey does gnome-screensaver actually have a screensaver or does it just turn a grey screen
[02:16] <JavaNunes> oi
[02:17] <somsip> basketball: it has access to different screensavers that you can choose, or install new ones. 'dim' is the default IIRC
[02:17] <23LAAI7GM> Hello, I just installed graphite on Ubuntu Server 13.10 and I'm getting "ImportError: No module named _cairo" when trying to render any graph. python -c "import cairo" works. Can someone please give me any tips of what can be wrong?
[02:17] <basketball> somsip,  how do i install new ones and how do i configure it
[02:17] <somsip> basketball: http://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-ubuntu
[02:18] <basketball> somsip,  if i install xscreensaver then i cant use ctrl alt l
[02:18] <somsip> basketball: I don't know what that is
[02:18] <basketball> somsip,  lock screen
[02:18] <MAbeeTT_> nick MAbeeTT
[02:20] <somsip> 23LAAI7GM: possibly packaging bug https://answers.launchpad.net/graphite/+question/193989 POssible solution http://is.gd/LLIur0
[02:21] <somsip> basketball: possibly you need to replace the command invoked with CTRL ALT L with something that runs xscreensaver-command -lock. No idea personally, but inferred by http://is.gd/jRGi7C
[02:22] <EminentDomain> is there a utility like filezilla that supports webdav?
[02:23] <EminentDomain> in windows they have cyberduck
[02:23] <somsip> EminentDomain: possibly helpful - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/WebDAV#WebDAV_Clients
[02:23] <EminentDomain> but cant seem to find anything for ubuntu
[02:24] <EminentDomain> yea i'm using nautilus now trying to copy stuff... doesnt seem to be very accurrate but not sure
[02:24] <EminentDomain> in terms of speed and time that is
[02:24] <EminentDomain> in filezilla they show each file individually
[02:24] <EminentDomain> (same with cyberduck)
[02:24] <EminentDomain> perhaps the command line version might be better
[02:29] <unraufamily> i
[02:29] <unraufamily> hi
[02:30] <unraufamily> hello
[02:30] <unraufamily> gh
[02:30] <unraufamily> xc
[02:30] <unraufamily> h
[02:30] <unraufamily> xch
[02:30] <GoldStandard> unraufamily hello
[02:35] <eskrima> Hi does anyone know where I can find great info and resources for programming. I'm new to it so I don't know what should I look for. Thanks
[02:35] <GeekDude> Does wilee_nilee still get on here frequently?
[02:36] <advx_> bye 4 now
[02:39] <icedwater> eskrima: glad you're still here. Try stackoverflow.com and codecademy.com :) Also note that #ubuntu is meant primarily for ubuntu support, so please chat about other things at #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:40] <GeekDude> Does wilee_nilee still hang around on here?
[02:41] <eskrima> Icedwater ok. I will re member. Sorry
[02:42] <matfx> Hi i can't setup twitter on ubuntu 12.04.4 64 bit. Gwibber just say need SSL required. What should i do?
[02:42] <eskrima> Icedwater :)
[02:43] <icedwater> eskrima: it's OK, since it's fairly quiet anyhow :)
[02:44] <boycey> any Ruby programmer here ?
[02:45] <eskrima> Icedwater yeah. Sometimes it's so crowded with questions that you don't know which to answer first
[02:46] <funky> hey folks does zip preserves owners info or not?
[02:46] <funky> I mean file owner
[02:47] <funky> and does tinyupload works with wget?
[02:47] <funky> some speedy share sites does not
[02:47] <funky> do not
[02:53] <Beldar> GeekDude, That was my nick, what's up?
[02:54] <GeekDude> Beldar: Remember helping me get reboot working on an install a while back?
[02:54] <Beldar> GeekDude, I wish I could, hehe.
[02:54] <boycey> anyone familiar with arduino here ?
[02:54] <GeekDude> You had me add something to the kernel parameters, iirc
[02:55] <GeekDude> anyways, I just reformatted, and am having the same issue :/
[02:55] <Beldar> GeekDude, nomodeset?
[02:55] <GeekDude> maybe
[02:55] <GeekDude> I'm fiddling with disabling acpi atm
[02:55]  * GeekDude will try that next 
[02:55] <Beldar> GeekDude, Not a real area I have had to mess with is all.
[02:56] <GeekDude> I added nomodeset at the end of the kernel params, accessed by pressing "e", but it gave me an error: unknown command `nomodeset'
[02:57] <Beldar> GeekDude, Put it before no splas
[02:57] <Beldar> splash
[02:57]  * GeekDude manually powers off system once again 
[02:57] <funky> :P
[02:58] <funky> with hammer?
[02:58] <GeekDude> funky: toe
[02:58] <GeekDude> toe-fu
[02:58] <Beldar> GeekDude, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset quiet splash"   with it added
[02:59] <GeekDude> Beldar: I must be looking in the wrong place, because I don't see GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in here
[02:59] <GeekDude> although, nomodeset does ring a bell
[03:00] <Beldar> GeekDude, From the grub menu it looks different, the key is where "nomodeset quiet splash"
[03:01] <Beldar> GeekDude, The first example was the line in /etc/default/grub you would modify for permanent use
[03:02] <Beldar> The mods go in that area like the acpi in whatever form that is added
[03:02] <GeekDude> This tut says to put them after the linux /boot line
[03:03] <GeekDude> There aren't any options there for me to start with, though
[03:04] <Beldar> GeekDude, That area in front of quiet splash is where you place these. If you want a text no splash boot remove quiet splash
[03:04] <GeekDude> is that because I'm running server?
[03:04] <Beldar> GeekDude, Can I see the tutorial?
[03:04] <GeekDude> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[03:06] <Beldar> GeekDude, The only difference here is I said before quiet splash, it shows after, same thing basically. I suspect explaining the problem to the channel might help you.
[03:07] <GeekDude> Also, best shutdown method? Shutdown -h 0, poweroff, halt, etc
[03:08] <wjtaylor> How can I get libimobile4 on 12.04?
[03:08] <wjtaylor> libimobiledevice4 ^^
[03:14] <GeekDude> Hey channel! Any idea how to my hang-on-reboot problem? sudo poweroff works fine
[03:14] <GeekDude> sudo reboot hangs
[03:17] <GeekDude> it hangs on [75.numbers] reboot: Restarting system
[03:20] <GeekDude> adding "nomodeset apci=off noapic nolapic" doesn't seem to help me
[03:20] <GeekDude> to the linux /boot line in the grub kernel settings
[03:22] <Busybyeski> what's a solid weather program, that might have toolbar integration?
[03:23] <Beldar> GeekDude, This from the grub menu?
[03:23] <GeekDude> Beldar: yeah. Highlight the default ubuntu boot and hit "e"
[03:23] <Beldar> GeekDude, Cool, the per-session mod.
[03:23] <GeekDude> I'm testing until it works
[03:24] <GeekDude> OH COOL!
[03:24] <GeekDude> reboot=bios fixed it
[03:24] <densin> hi all
[03:25] <densin> this is suitable place for ask about network route in ubuntu ? or other channel ?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> densin, this one or #ubuntu-server
[03:25] <densin> thank cfhowlett
[03:26] <wjtaylor> is there a ppa for libimobiledevice for 12.04
[03:26] <GeekDude> whoops, was waiting for grub, but got distracted. *restarts again*
[03:31] <chaos7theory> Would this channel support PPA issues?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !ppa|chaos7theory, generally best to get help from the ppa packager but go ahead and ask
[03:32] <cfhowlett> *PPA's are unsupported*
[03:33] <chaos7theory> Ah, nevermind then xD
[03:33] <chaos7theory> Being I went to the mercurial channel but it's dead silent
[03:33] <cfhowlett> chaos7theory, forum/email support?
[03:33] <chaos7theory> Going to check there next
[03:35] <chaos7theory> Mainly it's the issue of the ppa version of mrcurial requiring an unnecessary amount of dependencies, including x11
[03:37] <GeekDude> Beldar: It's all fixed now. I added the reboot=b option to the /etc/default/grub file. Works perfectly
[03:37] <GeekDude> Thanks for your time
[03:40] <Beldar> GeekDude, Good job, glad I could be here to see it.
[03:40] <GeekDude> :P
[03:40] <GeekDude> I don't think this is the same solution I used last time, but I like this one very much
[03:40] <pranav> i installed kubuntu iso for embedded device on my flash. evrything is fine, but ends with a busybox atop of bare kernel.
[03:40] <GeekDude> Well, gotta jet
[03:42] <Bublik2002> anyone able to install the latest version of itunes on ubuntu? i tried it via play on linux and it gives me an error and doesnt want to install
[03:42] <pranav> how can i transfer the std i/o to LCD ? please help
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !itunes|Bublik2002,
[03:43] <Bublik2002> i know its not available but there are ways to install via playonlinux
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, the LATEST itunes?  not going to happen.
[03:43] <Bublik2002> i get it there are good alternatives.. but i want to be able to stream itunes radio
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, you're not reading.  the latest itunes *will not* be running on linux.  sorry.
[03:44] <Bublik2002> cfhowlett: so whats the latest version that can be installed? 10?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, earlier versions *may* run with 0-100% functionality
[03:45] <Bublik2002> can i run a server on my windows box that will let me stream itunes radio to my ubuntu box?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, do a search : install + itunes + ubuntu   for your alternatives
[03:46] <cfhowlett> stream + itunes + ubuntu is also a good search parameter
[03:47] <JavaNunes> buceta
[03:49] <pranav> why do no1 ever talks in #ubuntu-arm
[03:50] <JavaNunes> i want download the module bucetaosujo for kernel 3.9
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !arm|pranav,
[03:51] <cfhowlett> pranav, see the wiki
[03:52] <pranav> how to transfer std i/p o/p to LCD instead of serial console ?
[03:53] <pranav> i installed kubuntu on embdd device
[03:58] <pranav> how to launch a new shell with output directed to a particualar ttyN ?
[04:05] <legrandin> hey guys, is there a way to save my terminal setup when i restart my computer? i usually need a bunch open for development
[04:14] <marz> How can I reset my compiz configurations? I've set everything transparent hence I can not see anything that is open
[04:16] <Beldar> marz, What ubuntu release?
[04:17] <whichDesktop> which desktop has spaces where you can mouse to the corner and fan out all the apps?
[04:17] <Beldar> whichDesktop, gnome shell does that.
[04:18] <whichDesktop> Beldar: is that gbuntu or something?
[04:18] <GoldStandard> im checking netstat and some program called dnsmasq is listening and contacting foreign address *:*, is this normal?
[04:18] <GoldStandard> the address is actually 0.0.0.0:*
[04:19] <Beldar> whichDesktop, It's the gnome shell (desktop) the gnome developers release basically
[04:19] <whichDesktop> Beldar: so just download unity ubuntu and download gnome desktop?
[04:19] <whichDesktop> can't i just download an iso with gnow in by default?
[04:19] <whichDesktop> Beldar: ^
[04:19] <Beldar> whichDesktop, What release are you using?
[04:19] <whichDesktop> Beldar: idk yet
[04:20] <alexandros_c> help, I am trying to upgrade my system but I keep getting untrusted source, does anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:20] <whichDesktop> Beldar: something stable for my asusq400a, i think i want to use the next LTS when it comes out next april, but for now something that's not gonna break on my machine like linux mint (mouse stopped working after a while and doesn't open teamviewer sometimes)
[04:21] <Ben64> alexandros_c: the first step is to pastebin the full command and error you are getting
[04:21] <Beldar> whichDesktop, 12.04 and maybe 12.10 is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell later releases, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[04:22] <whichDesktop> Beldar: what about 13?
[04:22] <marz> I was playing with compiz settings via the CCSM program. I accidentally tweaked it to make every transparent. How do I reset it?
[04:22] <Beldar> whichDesktop, Most of that desktop is already there as gnome 3 under unity.
[04:22] <Beldar> whichDesktop, See later releases.
[04:24] <Beldar> marz, There is a reset, however if differs on the ubuntu releases, which are you running?
[04:24] <whichDesktop> Beldar: is 13 less stable than 12.04 or 12.1?
[04:24] <marz> Beldar: 12.04 64-bit. P.S. I already uninstalled the compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:24] <Beldar> whichDesktop, Not answerable.
[04:25] <alexandros_c> Ben64 here is the command and error https://gist.github.com/amcollie/9361132
[04:25] <Beldar> marz, That does no good, is it still gone, unity is a plugin in it, this unity?
[04:25] <whichDesktop> Beldar: why not
[04:25] <marz> Beldar: Nope, the unity of the other account
[04:25] <Beldar> whichDesktop, It is an opinion, I don;t have one.
[04:26] <Beldar> marz, "the unity of the other account" what does that mean?
[04:26] <justin_zw> Correct me if I'm wrong, but pages made with FormSpecialPage actually process the submitted data on the same page, right? So the onSubmit callback is suppoes to be doing whatever you wanted to do with that data?
[04:27] <justin_zw> (For example, for an email extension, I would send the email in onSubmit)
[04:27] <marz> Beldar: I'm not so sur emyself either. What I'm trying to say is when I logged in to my other account, the account where I used the CCSM, all the windows that I open are transparent.
[04:27] <Beldar> marz, If compiz is correct unity --reset should work
[04:28] <Beldar> marz, try in that account unity --reset   usually a reboot or logout is needed.
[04:28] <marz> Beldar: Can't do it in tty, I can't do it in GUI either since I can't see anything when I log in to the other account.
[04:29] <Beldar> marz, No TTY from that account?
[04:37] <fletom> I've tried installing 13.10 so many different ways on my Mac. No matter what I do it complains that it can't install the bootloader. Can anyone help?
[04:39] <funky> hello
[04:39] <funky> does tar preserve ownder and execute permissions?
[04:39] <funky> ownder
[04:40] <funky> lol owner
[04:40] <Ben64> alexandros_c: you need to get the keys for those 3rd party repos you have added
[04:40] <alexandros_c>  thanks for your help
[04:41] <alexandros_c> Ben64, thanks for your help
[04:41] <alexandros_c> already did it
[04:42] <Cha0> i can not find my mobile's name in the list for installing ubuntu os on ubuntu site, is there any other way to find out?
[04:44] <somsip> !touch | Cha0 (if it's not there, it's not supported)
[04:45] <justin_zw> (For example, for an email extension, I would send the email in onSubmit)
[04:45] <justin_zw> Whoops, my bad
[04:45] <justin_zw> Forgot this wasn't Skype.
[04:58] <rafs> hi people. how do i disable the startup bluetooth every time i reboot the computer?
[05:00] <rafs> every time i restart my computer bluetooth is connected
[05:03] <jayar> if my girls logged in, how can i access my folder via terminal?
[05:03] <jayar> my home
[05:03] <grahamsavage> hey can anyone recommend a filenaming tool.. something with a UI and that supports regex?
[05:04] <TheProf> Good day.  I've been running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my server for over a year very well. But now a recent reboot and my machine will not load: "Gave up waiting for root device" and "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/really-long-string does not exist." and drops me into a busy-box shell.  I'm the IT volunteer at this school so I'm looking for guidance please.
[05:04] <somsip> jayar: su -l jayar && cd
[05:05] <somsip> TheProf: sounds like a dead HD, bad connection, or similar
[05:05] <crocket> What feed aggregator do you recommend for ubuntu 13.10?
[05:06] <TheProf> somsip, Hello.  The boot partition resides on a RAID1 controller.  The raid 1 says it's not degraded.  I suppose my question is - if the disk is dead, how did it boot up that far? Thank you
[05:06] <somsip> TheProf: no idea about raid, so I can't help further
[05:08] <TheProf> somsip, That's no problem.  Assuming that it's just a regular drive, is there a recommended course of action to resolve this?
[05:08] <somsip> TheProf: check connections, check BIOS, check the HD in another machine, replace the HD. Something like that
[05:10] <GoldStandard> is it okay to trust ubuntu mirrors? also, each time i try to determine the best server using the "select best server" tool, it gives me a different result
[05:10] <TheProf> somsip, OK I understand.  If I can access / on the failed drive on another machine, can I pull off certain configuration files to keep my users username and passwords?
[05:10] <somsip> GoldStandard: official mirrors are official. Network conditions may vary
[05:11] <GoldStandard> somsip cool thanks
[05:11] <GoldStandard> somsip are mirrors really that much faster than the main server?
[05:11] <somsip> TheProf: trying in anpther machine will isolate whether it's a HD issue or a HD controller/mobo issue (or possibly something else that isn't directly the HD's fault)
[05:12] <somsip> GoldStandard: depends on network conditions. I do't use US servers because I don't like in the US, for example
[05:12] <somsip> *don't
[05:13] <GoldStandard> somsip i see, thanks
[05:14] <Voyage> I cant speak by my microphone pluged in. but the built in micro phone of my laptop works. I have toogled the audio settings but no use. any one has a clue?
[05:14] <betty_> Hi. I recently have my ubuntu crash and fail to load afterwards. I don't know what could have happened as I didn't do any changes to the system, or even download new things. When I boot my computer, it goes to wear the login screen is supposed to be and gives me the 'The system is running in low-graphics mode' error. I've googled it, some people recommend editing the greeter. (check, set to unity-greeter). Checked root directory for h
[05:14] <betty_> CONT: ing). Check nvidia drivers (check, reinstalled stable version)
[05:23] <notworking> Hey, can someone maybe help me? Having trouble installing ubuntu
[05:29] <notworking> I'm trying to install Ubuntu / xUbuntu on a 10 year old pc with 1.5gb ram, however it always freezes ~ 30 seconds after the reboot, what am I doing wrong? Tried usb installation, live cd installation, and wubi
[05:32] <notworking> I'm trying to install Ubuntu / xUbuntu on a 10 year old pc with 1.5gb ram, however it always freezes ~ 30 seconds after the reboot, what am I doing wrong? Tried usb installation, live cd installation, and wubi
[05:32] <jonne> does anyone know how to get multitouch working on a laptop touchpad? I know it's worked, but i never got it to work again after reinstalling ubuntu.
[05:32] <jonne> none of the config tools seem to recognise it
[05:33] <jonne> it won't even do the swiping the side to scroll thing
[05:34] <cdoublejj> what version of Open GL does Ubuntu 14.04 LTS use?
[05:34] <jonne> notworking, do you get grub?
[05:35] <jonne> can you boot into recovery mode?
[05:36] <notworking> jonne, i don't think so, I'm only following the steps on the ubuntu homepage
[05:36] <jonne> so, after the BIOS starts you just get a black screen?
[05:38] <notworking> No,  get the choice to use the old OS, which i want top get rid of, and ubuntu/xubuntu, then when i choose ubuntu/xubuntu, i have the "loading/working"-screen of those and after 30 seconds that freezes up (the animation that something is going on stops)
[05:41] <notworking> jonne did you get to read what i wrote last or should i repeat?
[05:42] <jonne> notworking, i got a call, sorry
[05:42] <CarlFK> notworking: "get the choice to use the old OS"   says something about grub, right?  if so, you should also have a rescue mode choice, or advanced options
[05:43] <jonne> after picking the xubuntu option, just press esc, you should see grub
[05:43] <jonne> what processor does the pc have?
[05:43] <notworking> pentium D
[05:43] <Beldar> cdoublejj, 14.04 is on #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <jonne> i believe ubuntu recentlishly dropped support for older x86 archs
[05:44] <notworking> so i should try an older build?
[05:45] <jonne> looking up some stuff to see if i'm not talking out of my ass, hold on
[05:46] <Beldar> notworking, You check the sum of the iso?
[05:46] <jonne> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-wont-run.html
[05:46] <jonne> so yeah, that was 4 years ago
[05:46] <jonne> looks like lubuntu still supports i586 (which is what you're on)
[05:47] <cesar_> list
[05:47] <jonne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[05:47] <jonne> notworking ^
[05:48] <notworking> alright so I'll try out Lubuntu then! thanks jonne
[05:49] <jonne> no worries
[05:49] <notworking> however I am abit confused, as all the requirements sites just stated the ram needed, nothing about certain hardware
[05:51] <zsw__> im trying to install kali through usb and i have a 4GB stick and a 3GB kali linux iso and its still not createable
[05:51] <jonne> yeah, they say minimum p4, 1Ghz, which is weird
[05:52] <jonne> maybe they never updated it?
[05:52] <zsw__> jonne: me?
[05:53] <jonne> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html
[05:53] <jonne> However, Ubuntu precise will not run on i586 or earlier processors. Despite the architecture name "i386", support for actual 80386 processors (and their clones) was dropped with the Sarge (r3.1) release of Debian
[05:53] <jonne> ah crap, he left
[05:53] <kopasetik> Hi all, have you heard about the GnuTLS crypto bug?
[05:57] <noobuntu> HI, so I need to change current partition which is Ubuntu is installed on to NTSF. I'm wondering if I go to disks->change partitiion type, will it successfully reformat and allow my window discs to install os on it?
[05:57] <Beldar> kopasetik, Not a support issue is all.
[05:58] <Beldar> noobuntu, You can make a ntfs in linux or on the install.
[06:00] <noobuntu> So after I change the partition type, it won't just "corrupt" and shut off and be unable to change OS, correct? I'm changing the type while on the same OS.
[06:00] <kopasetik> well, don't i need to install a new version of the app?
[06:00] <kopasetik> or will ubuntu roll out an update automatically?
[06:01] <TheProf> somsip, Hello - I was able to determine the drive is working fine.  Are there other reasons I'd get that message "Gave up waiting for root device"?
[06:03] <CarlFK> noobuntu: changing the partition type will be ignored by all the things.
[06:05] <nuabi> nat
[06:08] <grahamsavage> for filesystems.. is ext4 the only reasonable choice for stability etc?
[06:11] <Laibsch> I'm trying to record the audio from a webinar. I am using gnome-sound-recorder to do that. The problem is that the sound from the microphone always gets mixed in, resulting in background noise.  What do I need to do (in precise, if that matters) to prevent this?
[06:12] <CarlFK> grahamsavage: heh... this is 2 years old, but kinda answers your question http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=22655883&sid=0f21c68879c68921142f1e7826a2a0fe#p22655883
[06:14] <CarlFK> noobuntu: if you are hoping to change ntfs to ext4 .. I would be very surprised if you can do that without backing, mkfs, restore.  "in place upgrade" is what you want, and all I can find is ext3 to 4, like mentioned in the link I just posted
[06:15] <grahamsavage> CarlFK: ah so now it's down to BTRFS and Ext4
[06:19] <jozefk> Why 12.10 is still supported?
[06:20] <Beldar> jozefk, why do you care?
[06:21] <Beldar> look up ubuntu release schedules
[06:22] <jozefk> Because I see in channel topic but in Ubuntu release schedule it says 9 months
[06:24] <Beldar> we are just short of 9 months since release
[06:24] <Beldar> April 2014
[06:26] <jozefk> It has been more than a year already
[06:28] <qin> jozefk, Beldar: interesting, cant find any docs about 9 and 18 months support. And fact that 13.04 killed just two months before LTS is somehow puzzling too
[06:29] <jozefk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[06:31] <Ububash> hi
[06:31] <qin> jozefk: oh, "Older releases may have different support length."
[06:31] <zztr> I'm coming back to Ubuntu from Fedora and remembering the main thing that drove me mad. out of date packages. Is there a way for me to get apt-get to install the latest stable release of things like postgresql, mercurial, and clojure? Why are the installed versions years old?
[06:32] <Ububash> iptables: Why do they work so well on my Dell (12.04 LTS) and not my Mac (12.04 LTS)?
[06:32] <jozefk> :)
[06:32] <gordonjcp> zztr: have you installed the LTS version?
[06:32] <Ububash> y
[06:33] <zztr> gordonjcp: yes
[06:33] <gordonjcp> zztr: well, there you go
[06:33] <Ububash> ?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> that's *the whole bloody point* of LTS
[06:33] <gordonjcp> the versions *do not change* during the lifecycle of the release
[06:33] <zztr> gordonjcp: so lts doesn't maintain it's package repo?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> no
[06:33] <qin> zztr: did you know that Ubuntu do not roll?
[06:33] <zztr> wow
[06:33] <Ububash> Anybody good with iptables?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> zztr: the packages are always the absolute latest patched up to date versions *of the release versions*
[06:34] <SwedeMike> zztr: they bug fix, they don't upgrade. it's stable, not new features.
[06:34] <gordonjcp> zztr: although the packages are kept patched, the versions *do not change*
[06:34] <CarlFK> zztr: all the releases keep the feature sets stable.  to get new features, upgrade to a new release
[06:34] <gordonjcp> zztr: not like for example Arch, where you can expect it to break *something* once a week
[06:34] <nateman264> hello all
[06:36] <zztr> okay. well thanks for the explanation CarlFK gordonjcp and SwedeMike. Is there a repository I can add that will get me newer stuff?
[06:36] <gordonjcp> zztr: the idea is that you don't have packages constantly changing major version numbers and breaking configs
[06:36] <gordonjcp> zztr: you could try switching to 13.10, or looking for PPAs
[06:36] <gordonjcp> zztr: what are you trying to install?
[06:36] <nateman264> If there is anyone on that can answer my questions, would you answer please? I need to find out what ubuntu version I need to run on my 686 CPU computer...
[06:36] <CarlFK> zztr: I have had good luck using a PPAs for apps I care about, like vagrant and openshot
[06:37] <gordonjcp> nateman264: the instructions are right there on the download page
[06:37] <zztr> gordonjcp: 13.10 did not work with bluetooth on the ultrabook i need to have ubuntu on
[06:37] <gordonjcp> nateman264: you want a 32-bit version
[06:37] <nateman264> okay, thank you very much
[06:37] <gordonjcp> zztr: but older versions do?
[06:37] <zztr> CarlFK: so i have to get a different ppa for each piece of software?
[06:37] <zztr> gordonjcp: yes. odd i know, but true
[06:37] <gordonjcp> nateman264: depending on how old the machine is and what CPU it has, you might need a non-PAE system, so possibly mini.iso
[06:38] <CarlFK> zztr: for each that you want cutting edge
[06:38] <gordonjcp> zztr: have you filed a bug?
[06:38] <zztr> gordonjcp: no i'm trying to just get something working. not a lot of time on my hands
[06:39] <gordonjcp> zztr: if you don't file a bug, it'll never get fixed and when 12.04 goes away you'll be just as stuck
[06:39] <CarlFK> zztr: I completely don't care about the latest breakthroughs in pdf viewing ;)
[06:39] <FuuqUmiist> nateman264 just install Lubuntu and your computer should be find
[06:39] <gordonjcp> zztr: tl;dr if you find a problem and don't file a bug, you're just whining and you should shut up
[06:39] <nateman264> hmm? it's a dell optiplex GX270
[06:40]  * zztr quits whining
[06:42] <FuuqUmiist> nateman264 yeah install Lubuntu on that, its a Pentium 4 @ 2.8GHz right?
[06:42] <FuuqUmiist> Lubuntu is a lightweight version of Ubuntu
[06:42] <gordonjcp> it's also buggy as hell
[06:43] <FuuqUmiist> nateman264 or if you want more features install Linux Mint XFCE version
[06:44] <gordonjcp> !mint
[06:44] <SwedeMike> zzzgeoffb: you can check out backports, but I doubt it'll have those kinds of packages.
[06:44] <gordonjcp> LXDE is hilarious
[06:44] <FuuqUmiist> but it will be speedier on Lubuntu, you will have have to customize more on what software you want to run on it
[06:44] <heyHey> how do I install gnome on 12.04.4 ? apt-get install gnome?
[06:44] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: it might be if he's got a very fast machine with a lot of RAM
[06:45] <gordonjcp> my machine is pretty low-spec so I just stick to normal Unity
[06:45] <FuuqUmiist> Lubuntu will be much faster than Ubuntu with Unity
[06:45] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: only on a fast machine
[06:46] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: my core 2 duo with 8GB can *just about* run LXDE but it crashes all the time
[06:46] <heyHey> gordonjcp: FuuqUmiist how do I install gnome on 12.04.4 ? apt-get install gnome?
[06:46] <gordonjcp> !gnome
[06:46] <FuuqUmiist> no, the min hardware requirements for Lubuntu are almost the same as Windows XP
[06:46] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: what's Windows XP like?
[06:46] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: I find that LXDE runs out of memory and crashes all the time
[06:47] <heyHey> gordonjcp: I just did apt-get install gnome, am I breaking my machine, what should I do?
[06:47] <FuuqUmiist> gordonjcp the newer version should be better
[06:47] <gordonjcp> heyHey: did you follow the instructions on the factoid?
[06:47] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: to be honest I'm unlikely to try it again
[06:47] <heyHey> gordonjcp: i did install gnome before you told me
[06:47] <FuuqUmiist> !lubuntu
[06:47] <gordonjcp> heyHey: I don't use gnome and haven't for years
[06:48] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: Unity works well enough and LXDE doesn't
[06:48] <onlty> how about XFCE
[06:48] <gordonjcp> it's okay if you've got nothing better
[06:48] <onlty> !xubuntu
[06:48] <heyHey> gordonjcp: should I cancel "apt-get install gnome"? let it finish? do i need to install gnome-shell after, or might it be contained within "install gnome"
[06:48] <gordonjcp> heyHey: no idea
[06:48] <gordonjcp> heyHey: it'll probably pull down much the same stuff
[06:49] <FuuqUmiist> if you use XFCE use Linux Mint, apparently Xubuntu uses more resources
[06:49] <gordonjcp> Mint doesn't have an IRC channel though
[06:49] <gordonjcp> well, not on Freenode
[06:50] <gordonjcp> I really can't see what's so good about Mint
[06:50] <pandy_> Русские есть!?
[06:50] <gordonjcp> !ru | pandy_
[06:50] <staticd> heyHey: gnome includes gnome shell afaict
[06:50] <pandy_>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[06:50] <FuuqUmiist> ... /server irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-help
[06:51] <FuuqUmiist> should work i think
[06:51] <heyHey> staticd: so I'm just installing extra shiz that I might not need, but am not breaking my machine?
[06:51] <heyHey> staticd: gordonjcp and how do I enable gnome and take off unity?
[06:52] <staticd> heyHey: in theory it should not break anything.
[06:52] <heyHey> staticd: i see it download inkscape
[06:52] <heyHey> downloading*
[06:52] <nateman264> do I still get the 32-bit?
[06:52] <staticd> heyHey: I installed GS the same way
[06:52] <heyHey> staticd: ok cool, how do I enable it
[06:52] <heyHey> gnome shell i.e.
[06:52] <heyHey> staticd: ^
[06:54] <staticd> heyHey: when you reboot, the lightdm login screen will have a little button near the username. clicking on it will allow you to log in to a unity or through GS for your session
[06:54] <TheProf> somsip, I solved it temporarily - I needed to select an earlier version of the boot up image in grub.  No idea why it worked.  But that's OK for now.
[06:55] <staticd> heyHey: if that works fine through a few log in log out / reboot cycles then you can think of uninstalling unity..
[06:55] <heyHey> staticd: cool thanks!
[06:55] <Lorith[Alpha]> anyone tried openkore? need help over here~
[06:56] <staticd> heyHey: but if you are not pressed for space.. let it lie.. you just log into your previous choice by default.. so pretend unity is not there.. spare you a lot of greif if the uninstall goes wrong
[06:57] <heyHey> staticd: proli ill do :) thanks!
[06:57] <heyHey> helpful hippo
[06:57] <staticd> sure.. g'luck
[06:58] <staticd> all: I wanted to know how to file a bug against the trusty iso so that the virtualbox drivers can be added to it..
[06:58] <staticd> anyone has any suggestions how?
[06:58] <staticd> clicking on the reportbug link on the launchpad page takes me the help page
[07:42] <chaos7theory> Is it possible to do IME input on the TTY without x-server?
[07:44] <jnhghy> I have squid on a ubuntu and I've set another ubuntu box to use the first one as proxy server (I've set it only for http and https -not for ftp or socks ports) but now I have an issue with thunderbird, it seems I can receive emails but I can't send, I've googled the issue and found that the iptables of the server might block smtp but at this point I'm kind of lost ... can anybody help?
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:55] <tripelb> 12.04 the panel marker for networking vanished. (and it still hangs in downloading adobe flash)
[08:11] <billybig2> hey all, is anyone here familiar with python 2.7.3 and the futures module?
[08:11] <billybig2> im not a python guru at all and am stumped
[08:12] <billybig2> i've installed python-concurrent.futures but get an error when i try to run a script that has import futures
[08:13] <billybig2>   File "ircbot.py", line 5, in <module>
[08:13] <billybig2>     import futures
[08:13] <billybig2> ImportError: No module named futures
[08:13] <billybig2> do i have to reload anything python related after installing a module?
[08:17] <somsip> billybig2: try the #python channel
[08:22]  * Jurgen|Cloud sgopt TBloemink
[08:23] <nikolam> I reported bug about (ana)cron daily and other jobs,  using 'find' util that searches BTRFS subvolume snapshots , even those snapshots contain same data as filesystem itself.. If you like that not happening, please add something in the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/1288106
[08:23] <Jurgen|Cloud> BOELboel
[08:27] <tripelb> aski.g agai. after. etsp
[08:27] <tripelb> 12.04 the panel marker for networking vanished. (and it still hangs in downloading adobe flash)
[08:29] <llutz> nikolam: check  PRUNEPATHS, PRUNEFS in /etc/updatedb.conf
[08:36] <tasslehoff> I have some applications installed in non-standard locations, and have symlinks to them in ~/bin. Where should I add this to PATH to make sure various launchers know of it? /etc/profile?
[08:38] <somsip> tasslehoff: ~/.bashrc normally
[08:41] <drugaddict> linux is for niggers
[08:45] <tasslehoff> somsip: but then e.g. the "Run Application" in gnome does not know the path?
[08:46] <somsip> tasslehoff: I have no idea how gnome works in that respect, so I can't help further
[08:47] <llutz> tasslehoff: aren't those launchers using *.desktop files in */share/apllications and not stuff from $PATH?
[08:48] <Caelum> I'm following an arch guide and it says to make a file in /etc/tmpfiles.d/ but there is no such directory on ubuntu, what is the equivalent?
[08:48] <llutz> Caelum: to do what?
[08:48] <somsip> Caelum: what's the link for the guide?
[08:49] <Caelum> llutz: this part here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_C720_Chromebook#Fixing_suspend
[08:50] <tasslehoff> llutz: yeah. it actually looks like it has picked up my applications, and that the problem is something else.
[08:50] <tasslehoff> llutz: the apps are installed to /opt, and have created the proper *.desktop files
[08:51] <somsip> Caelum: I'd suggest you find a guide for ubuntu. There may be more in that guide that is Arch specific looking at it briefly
[08:53] <llutz> Caelum: look at /etc/pm/ if you need to run scripts on sleep/resume
[08:53] <Caelum> llutz: yeah I got that part, but what is this weird conf files for tmpfiles.d, maybe I don't need it
[08:54] <Caelum> ah looks like a systemd thing
[08:54] <llutz> Caelum: arch uses systemd and other mechanisms to sleep/resume, that has nothing in common with *buntu. i'd guess that guide is senseless for you
[08:55] <Caelum> llutz: no there's lots of other useful stuff in there
[08:55] <llutz> Caelum: if you need that unbind/bind part for ehci, look at /etc/pm/sleep/*
[08:56] <Caelum> ok thank you
[08:57] <llutz> Caelum: arch wiki always has nice ideas, unfortunately you have to rethink them if you want to use them in other distros. you cannot use them 1:1
[08:57] <Caelum> right
[09:02] <g0ne> anyone got any decent xterm defaults they can share? looking for a dark bg and small font
[09:03] <Voyage> using kubuntu,  I cant speak by my microphone pluged in. but the built in micro phone of my laptop works. I have toogled the audio settings but no use. any one has a clue?  I used  pavucontrol but  cant work with any drop down option in pavucontrol...  any other way to see if my audio can work?
[09:03] <iptable> g0ne, use putty emulator ;)
[09:04] <iptable> Voyage, is the external mic a mini-jack or an USB?
[09:06] <Voyage> iptable,  external mic
[09:06] <Voyage> its like a long thing thing plugged into the mic port
[09:07] <iptable> Voyage, I do understand it's external. Question is, is it a USB external, or mini-jack? I.e. rectangle plugin or a small round one?
[09:07] <Voyage> its not usb for sure
[09:08] <iptable> Voyage, in that case, when you plug it in, your motherboard automatically switches sound from built-in microphone to external microphone. There is no sftware control for it
[09:08] <Voyage> ya, the internal mic works ok. but when I plug the external, it doesnot works.
[09:08] <iptable> Voyage, it means, as soon as the mic is plugged in, it should be working instead of the internal one. The software doesn't know if anything is plugged in or not. It's hardware controlled.
[09:08] <Voyage> what can be the reason
[09:09] <iptable> Voyage, 1. faulty microphone, or 2. faulty/loose connection on your computer
[09:09] <Voyage> no, its not hardware issue
[09:09] <iptable> Voyage, test with another external microphone to find out which one is at fault. Alternatively get a USB microphone. These work very well and you can switch to them using pavucontrol at your heart's content.
[09:09] <Voyage> as I have a wired problem in windows 7. there, the mic works, but headphones dont. its really strange
[09:10] <Voyage> iptable,  I have dont testing another mic.
[09:10] <Voyage> same for all
[09:10] <iptable> Voyage, it IS hardware issue. Software, as stated, has got nothing to do with it.
[09:10] <iptable> Voyage, hardware automatically switches inputs. Tried wiggling it a bit while recordign sound?
[09:10] <Voyage> iptable,  if it was hardware issue. the external mic should not have worked in windows 7
[09:10] <majod> iptable: that nick is really confusing :)
[09:10] <Voyage> iptable,  tried wigling. yes.
[09:11] <iptable> majod, just 1 table, I'm not greedy. When my nick was iptables, I got pinged whenever someone mentioned them.
[09:11] <Voyage> iptable,  if it was hardware issue. the external mic should not have worked in windows 7  . < do I have a point?
[09:11] <iptable> Voyage, how many sound cards does pavucontrol see?
[09:11] <Voyage> let me see
[09:11] <iptable> Voyage, not necessarily. are you sure you plugged it in to mic control and not accidentally to sound OUT?
[09:12] <Voyage> I used sound input
[09:12] <gfhhhj> yes
[09:12] <gfhhhj> ?
[09:12] <Voyage> I can see  microphone, internal microphone, line in.       none worked
[09:12] <Voyage> iptable,  ^
[09:13] <iptable> Voyage, uhm, what actual inputs/outputs do you have on your motherboard?
[09:13] <gfhhhj> what the
[09:13] <gfhhhj> command for update
[09:14] <Voyage> iptable,  output is one headphone port. input is one mic port
[09:14] <iptable> Voyage, only 2 ports?
[09:14] <Voyage> iptable,  yes
[09:14] <iptable> Voyage, and does pavucontrol otherwise change sound settings for you (like volume)?
[09:15] <Voyage> yes
[09:15] <Voyage> it does
[09:15] <g0ne> how do i list all muh fonts
[09:15] <Caelum> xlsfonts
[09:15] <iptable> Voyage, so mic goes into input and you set it as "Microphone".
[09:15] <g0ne> can i preview them?
[09:15] <Voyage> iptable,  affirmative
[09:16] <Caelum> xfontsel
[09:16] <Caelum> but there are better progs
[09:16] <Caelum> g0ne: try terminator
[09:16] <iptable> Voyage, so, in pavucontrol, you go to the "input devices" tab and make sure the "port" is set to microphone. check all ports for the sake of it.
[09:16] <Caelum> g0ne: konsole is also nice
[09:17] <iptable> Voyage, also, once selected each port, change volume a bit to make sure it volumizes it before testing.
[09:20] <iptable> Voyage, also in "Configuration" tab, make sure your audio is set as "analogue stereo duplex"
[09:20] <Voyage> iptable,  the mic switches when i plug in the external. switches means from internal to external but the volumn dont change while i speak in the external one\
[09:21] <iptable> Voyage, I know. but sometimes the volume control might not be reading it right after plugin. can you just try?
[09:21] <iptable> Voyage, and also click on "fallback" button in "input devices" section. Are you sure you chosen "duplex" as I told you?
[09:21] <iptable> Voyage, and one last thing, if you unplug both the speakers and the microphone and then plug only microphone in, does it work then?
[09:22] <iptable> Voyage, and it one thing doesn't work in windows, while another in ubuntu, and both of the same sound card, it looks like some screwed up hardware, and that would be hardware issue, with sofwtare not being able to find out how the hell it's meant to work...
[09:23] <ktosiek> Hi! Is anyone here using the Ubuntu-provided redmine?
[09:23] <ktosiek> How can I add custom plugins to it? Do I have to package them?
[09:23] <Voyage> iptable,  nice point. let me check
[09:25] <ompal> anyone using reviewboard
[09:26] <Caelum> my pref programs seem to be doubled in cinnamon
[09:26] <Voyage> iptable,  didnt worked
[09:26] <tripelb> 12.04 the panel marker for networking vanished. (and it still hangs in downloading adobe flash)
[09:26] <iptable> Voyage, I would still blame the hardware. Looks like it's got some control modes messed up. you could maybe get it to work if you try enough times... try changing from "duplex" to "input" in configuration tab and playing with that. at some point you will get mic to work, but no sound then :D
[09:27] <Caelum> ah there we go, I had gnome-control-center installed
[09:27] <iptable> Caelum, haha, had same issue. Using Cinnamon on 14.04 here
[09:28] <Voyage> iptable,  hm
[09:28] <maxiaojun> why unity cannot be used for xrdp?
[09:28] <Voyage> iptable,  thanks
[09:29] <iptable> Voyage, no problem. I would complain to HW vendor if you can and get antoher machine (if it's new).
[09:29] <Voyage> iptable,  i see when external mic is selected. the volumn goes up and down. but not according to my voice. and I dont hear anything in the recording. else than distortion
[09:29] <iptable> Voyage, it could be that the solders are loose on the ports, causing a short circuit and you can only get one to work.
[09:30] <iptable> Voyage, that would be the short circuit I just said about. looks like a goner
[09:30] <Voyage> iptable,  strange that linux and windows make work the opposit
[09:30] <Voyage> the mic works in windows 7 but not the hadphone
[09:30] <Voyage> headphone
[09:30] <iptable> Voyage, they use different settings. you could get linux to be working as windows is, but by default it's the other way
[09:31] <Voyage> hm
[09:31] <iptable> Voyage, for £5 / $8 you can pickup a USB sound card that does wonders, including mic and output.
[09:31] <kdworak> Hi Guys, I have a problem with the `df -h|grep /dev/map|awk {'print $3'}' command, im getting the out put but with an error like so: -bash: 2.0G: command not found
[09:31] <Voyage> iptable,  oh
[09:31] <iptable> Voyage, that's what I had to do on my old laptop. Altohugh nowadays I just use USB mic and USB headsets. easier.
[09:31] <Voyage> iptable,  so the USB soundcard would be needing no drivers and will be wonderful/ working even the motherboard jacks are shot circuted
[09:31] <Voyage> ?
[09:32] <maxiaojun> why unity cannot be used for xrdp?
[09:32] <iptable> kdworak: wrong ''
[09:32] <iptable> kdworak: df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'
[09:32] <iptable> Voyage, yes
[09:32] <cfhowlett_> !cn|maxiaojun,
[09:33] <cisco> doy
[09:33] <Voyage> iptable,  thanks
[09:33] <iptable> Voyage, basically, in ubuntu you just switch sound card to the USB one and it ignores the built-in sound card. problem solved.
[09:33] <uk> doy
[09:33] <maxiaojun> cfhowlett_: wtf?
[09:33] <iptable> Voyage, by jjust clicking "Fallback" next to the USB sound card. It is as simple as that.
[09:33] <kdworak> iptable: Still the same output
[09:33] <yanaz> I have a problem with left bar - it is showing no icons. Im total ubuntu/linux noob
[09:33] <cfhowlett_> maxiaojun, my mistake.  nvrmnd
[09:34] <iptable> kdworak, nope, this command works for me. df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'
[09:34] <j2k> helo.............
[09:34] <iptable> kdworak, I have a feeling you are not giving me the whole command, jus a snippet
[09:34] <Guest35524> peru mattada koppe
[09:35] <j2k> patila kuthare.............
[09:35] <kdworak> iptable: No iptable the rest of the story as they say is that im asking a question that has nothing to do with ubuntu, im practicing bash scripting on centOS virtual machines
[09:35] <sreekanth> nadesaa
[09:35] <sreekanth> kollanda
[09:35] <iptable> kdworak, that doesn't matter. it would still work.
[09:36] <iptable> kdworak, have you tried copy-pasting what I have just given you into command prompt and just running it.
[09:36] <j2k> njan ivide ver chilath nokuva.............
[09:36] <iptable> kdworak, or are you putting the command in ``? looks like you are doing something dodgy around the command itself. the command works.
[09:36] <kdworak> iptable: yes command is inside ``
[09:37] <cisco_> yuty
[09:37] <iptable> kdworak, that's your problem
[09:37] <iptable> kdworak, as I said, the command works. why on earth are you putting it in ``?
[09:37] <kdworak> iptable: i thought u had to use those for multiple commands
[09:37] <kdworak> iptable: noobness
[09:37] <iptable> kdworak, no. you use ``, if you want to execute that first and then execcute the OUTPUT of it
[09:38] <kdworak> iptable: ahh that makes sense
[09:38] <iptable> kdworak, so you were ending up executing your command and then trying to execute the output of it (which was 2.0G, and that command doesn't exist)
[09:38] <kdworak> iptable: let me try and get back to u
[09:38] <kdworak> iptable: makes sense!
[09:38] <iptable> kdworak, you would only use `` to save result to variable. e.g. SIZE=`command`
[09:38] <kdworak> right i was making a variable for a script
[09:38] <iptable> kdworak, although, in current time you are supposed to use this instead: SIZE=$(command)
[09:39] <kdworak> iptable: oh thats different
[09:39] <iptable> kdworak, SIZE=$(df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'); echo ${SIZE}
[09:39] <kdworak> iptable: inside ()?
[09:39] <iptable> kdworak, inside $()
[09:39] <kdworak> iptable: awesome
[09:39] <iptable> kdworak, instead of ``. welcome to the 21st century
[09:40] <kdworak> iptable: lol yup you were right
[09:40] <iptable> kdworak, I know :P
[09:40] <kdworak> iptable: haha, thank you so much man!
[09:41] <kdworak> im gonna stick around ill have more questions
[09:41] <iptable> kdworak, cool. just ping me when you need to.
[09:41] <kdworak> iptable: does it ping when i use ur name?
[09:42] <iptable> kdworak, yes it does
[09:46] <kdworak> ?
[09:46] <cm13g09> Morning all, trying to preseed a RAID1 installation and failing....
[09:47] <cm13g09> My Preseed is at http://pastebin.com/a21yyqj8
[09:48] <kdworak> iptable: can you give me that example again?  the one with the updated way to make that variable
[09:49] <iptable> kdworak, SIZE=$(df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'); echo ${SIZE}
[09:50] <kdworak> iptable: ahh ok i see where i have it wrong
[09:54] <llutz>  awk doesn't need grep, awk '/dev\/map/ {print $3}'
[09:55] <Walex2> iptable: kdworak: more directly: stat -f -c %f ...
[09:55] <iptable> Walex2, spoiling the fun for someone learning to script? :P
[09:56] <Walex2> iptable: :-)
[09:57] <kdworak> llutz: nice short cut, but i gotta learn how to walk before i can run
[09:57] <jatt> is there already an update for gnutls on 12.04?
[09:58] <kdworak> llutz: although it would really impress my teacher
[09:58] <kdworak> llutz: so i can pipe df -h directly to awk?
[09:59] <llutz> kdworak: df -h|awk '/dev\/map/ {print $3}'
[09:59] <kdworak> llutz: the \ is needed?
[10:00] <llutz> kdworak: yes to escape the /
[10:00] <kdworak> k
[10:00] <uewdl> hello?
[10:01] <llutz> kdworak: imho it hasn't to do with "running", just learn from beginning the possibilities of some tools and avoid using more code than needed
[10:02] <kdworak> llutz: yeah thats what ive been told, if you dont need an else statement even for practice, dont code it in
[10:03] <kdworak> llutz: hey can u display that example for me again
[10:03] <llutz> kdworak: SIZE=$(df -h|awk '/dev\/map/ {print $3}')
[10:04] <kdworak> llutz: thank u
[10:05] <kdworak> llutz: its giving me a an error
[10:05] <kdworak> llutz: /dev\/map
[10:06] <kdworak> unterminated regexp
[10:06] <llutz> kdworak:  /dev\/map/     missing trailing slash?
[10:06] <kdworak> llutz: hahaha YES
[10:07] <neuromute9> hey folks, when I add a samba share using nautilus, where is the configuration stored? It isn't in the /etc/samba/smb.cnf file
[10:07] <kdworak> llutz: but why does it have to be there, the line starts with /dev/mapper not /dev/map/ ?
[10:08] <llutz> kdworak: it matches map
[10:08] <llutz>  kdworak the two slashes are just borders for the awk search-pattern
[10:09] <fabrizio__> CIAO AMICI
[10:09] <fabrizio__> HELLO
[10:10] <fabrizio__> Where are you form?
[10:10] <llutz> kdworak: tells awk: "search for the pattern between this two slashes"   thats why you have to escate slashes \/ if you want to search for them
[10:10] <fabrizio__> Hi man
[10:10] <llutz> escape
[10:12] <andreiccg> who can give some help with sql ?
[10:12] <kdworak> llutz: so how come we dont have to escate the first / like so: df -h|awk '\/dev\/map/ {print $3}' ?
[10:12] <fabrizio__> No sql sorry
[10:12] <andreiccg> k,thanks
[10:12] <llutz> kdworak: the first slash isn't part of /dev/map   its just the "pattern starts here" slash for awk, confusing, but...
[10:13] <llutz> kdworak: so basically you search for dev/map   not /dev/map
[10:13] <kdworak> llutz: i think i kind of get it
[10:14] <Caelum> this thing crashes when I try to hibernate
[10:14] <Caelum> blech
[10:14] <kdworak> llutz: so technically if i wanted to search for /dev/map could i do what i stated?  '\/dev\/map/ ?
[10:14] <llutz> kdworak: /\/dev\/map/ . unfortunately awk cannot (?) use different chars for that, only slashes. unlike sed
[10:15] <kdworak> llutz: oh wow /\/dev/map/  ?  that makes sense now
[10:15] <g0ne> do you guys know what mp3 player this is? http://a.pomf.se/uwaqmt.png
[10:16] <llutz> kdworak: /\/dev\/map/
[10:16] <llutz> kdworak: 1st and last char has to be unescaped slash. all slashes within have to be escaped
[10:16] <Caelum> oh it didn't crash
[10:16] <kdworak> llutz: ok got it
[10:17] <Caelum> man it's so annoying switching between systems with different hotkeys for everything
[10:17] <llutz> kdworak: there is #awk on freenode, they are much better in explaining this than i am
[10:17] <Caelum> mac, windows, linux
[10:19] <kdworak> llutz: you are explaining it very well, plus i have a simple script i have been tasked with, show how much disk usage is being used, what file is using the most, what pid is using the most amount of cpu, and are the LAMP stack services running
[10:20] <kdworak> llutz: you got me covered so far, i will stick around im sure ill have more questions
[10:21] <kdworak> llutz: i need help but at the same time i dont want the anwser handed to me
[10:21] <okkangal> is there anyone from turkey
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !turkey
[10:22] <kdworak> llutz: im sure my next questions will be about the
[10:22] <kdworak> llutz: about the du command
[10:22] <kdworak> llutz: next task is to display the file using the most disk space
[10:24] <onlty> !korea
[10:25] <llutz> kdworak: tons of ways, good luck :)
[10:26]  * cm13g09 is having "fun" with an HP ML320e G8 v2
[10:27] <pandario1> ubuntu is for noobs
[10:27] <iptable> pandario1, like you? try ##troll
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !fud|pandario1,
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|pandario1,
[10:28] <pandario1> iptable, nobody is  in there!
[10:28] <iptable> lol. that's the point of the channel. you are free to troll there as much as you want
[10:28] <llutz> don't feed the troll
[10:29] <iptable> sorry
[10:29] <pandario1> ubuntu is not as popular anymore!
[10:29] <ikonia> pandario1: only warning - stop it
[10:29] <ikonia> pandario1: this is a support channel, please use it for support only
[10:31] <iptable> kdworak, while read fn; do SIZE=$(stat -c %s ${fn}); echo "${SIZE} ${fn}"; done < <(find /dev/map -type f) |sort -n |tail -1
[10:32] <iptable> kdworak, will find the biggest file in /dev/map
[10:33] <llutz> iptable: "find /dev/map -type f" <- unlikely
[10:34] <iptable> llutz, well, if he got files in there, then yes. The rquest clearly said "display the file using most disk space"
[10:34] <iptable> llutz, if he wants block devices or other special just modify the type in find command to whatever.
[10:34] <iptable> llutz, it's a script to build on for whatever purpose.
[10:34] <solarizedsky_> hi
[10:34] <kdworak> iptable: thanks ma
[10:35] <andreiccg> who can help to join with sql channel ?
[10:35] <ikonia> andreiccg: the guys in #freenode can
[10:35] <JustMozzy> hi guys. I am having some trouble with samba and performance. anyone knows ways to improve read/write times?
[10:36] <andreiccg> k thanks
[10:36] <llutz> iptable: gnu-find cannot act on (virtual) blockdevices
[10:36] <g0ne> do you guys know what mp3 player this is? http://a.pomf.se/uwaqmt.png
[10:36] <iptable> llutz, really? It works here on all /dev/ files...
[10:38] <kdworak> llutz: no wonder im getting nothing from find....
[10:38] <kdworak> iptable: can u display that example again please?
[10:38] <DJones> g0ne: It looks like mdp listed on here http://askubuntu.com/questions/44443/command-line-audio-players
[10:39] <g0ne> DJones: thx
[10:39] <llutz> iptable: "find --version"
[10:39] <geirha> a bit uncommon to have regular files in /dev I think
[10:39] <iptable> llutz, GNU findutils (find) 4.4.2
[10:40] <llutz> iptable: same here, still no way
[10:40] <kdworak> geirha: its just an example
[10:40] <iptable> geirha, that's not the point. one can change -type f to -type c, etc. but apparently, that won't work in /dev according to some
[10:40] <iptable> llutz, it works here
[10:40] <geirha> that would make more sense, yes
[10:40] <iptable> llutz, I can't help it. Would you like me to break it so that it's consistent with what you are seeing
[10:42] <geirha> I'm unfamiliar with /dev/map  what is that really?
[10:43] <llutz> iptable: sry i meant, still no way _here_
[10:44] <iptable> llutz, oh. ok. for some reason works perfect here
[10:44] <llutz> iptable:just to make clear: you can use like "find /dev/sdXY -type xxx " with success? odd
[10:45] <geirha> with -type b you should get one result at least :)
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, no, I can't. That will obviously fail
[10:46] <llutz> geirha: sure, but only that and never any other content
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, but that wasn't what the user wanted.
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, you are overinventing it
[10:46] <kdworak> iptable: can u post that example u gave me again please?
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, that's all the user wanted
[10:47] <iptable> kdworak, don't you have like ... chat history and scroll-up?
[10:47] <iptable> kdworak, while read fn; do SIZE=$(stat -c %s ${fn}); echo "${SIZE} ${fn}"; done < <(find /dev/map -type f) |sort -n |tail -1
[10:47] <kdworak> iptable: im running irssi so no.. or i dont know how
[10:47] <iptable> kdworak, you will need to adjust 1. /dev/map to chosen directory and 2. -type f to chosen type. f is file,  etc. man find to see all types.
[10:47] <geirha> I've never seen /dev/map/, what is it used for?
[10:47] <llutz> kdworak: pgup
[10:47] <kdworak> iptable: i apologize
[10:48] <kdworak> llutz: there it is
[10:48] <iptable> kdworak, uhm, either learn irssi (and yes, it has got chat history), or use something more suited for GUI users I would say
[10:48] <kdworak> iptable: just learned how to scroll
[10:48] <iptable> kdworak, cool
[10:48] <kdworak> iptable: no more repeats
[10:48] <iptable> kdworak, cool
[10:48] <iptable> :P
[10:49] <g0ne> how can i tell what resolution im at
[10:49] <llutz> g0ne:  xrandr
[10:50] <llutz> or xdpyinfo |grep dimen
[11:14] <jamie792> can someone suggest an irc client that "notifies" (like notify-send from libnotify-bin) when you get a mention on a channel?  smuxi does this but has a huge memory footprint and crashes every couple of days
[11:15] <Kelly> good morning can someone assist me? I am new to ubuntu........I could watch videos on you tube with 11 but when i upgraded to ubuntu I am no longer able to watch videos....i installed VLC but that didnt seem to help me.
[11:15] <hillary> my screen keeps freezing while using libre writer ubuntu 12.04
[11:16] <xeni> Kelly: have you tried switching your youtube to HTML5 video
[11:16] <Kelly> xeni...i didnt see that option on youtube..but i will look again
[11:16] <xeni> Kelly: in my knowledge, otherwise you need shockwave flash installed to watch youtube
[11:17] <xeni> Kelly: Which web browser did you try youtube with?
[11:17] <Kelly> firefox
[11:18] <Kelly> really bummed out...it was working fine in ubuntu 11
[11:18] <xeni> Kelly: didn't it say anything about missing plugins or something like that
[11:18] <Kelly> not this time...but going to go there and look again
[11:19] <xeni> Kelly: Okay, please report back when you have done that
[11:19] <Kelly> :)  checking now...thank yu
[11:19] <geirha> Kelly: It could be config from older firefox messing up your current firefox; to test this theory, switch to a guest user and see if you can watch youtube from there.
[11:20] <Kelly> ok
[11:20] <geirha> *the guest user
[11:21] <hillary> Is this sreen freezing normal for ubuntu 12.04 libre writer while copy pasting?
[11:21] <mr_64br13l> hillary: Nope.
[11:22] <Goutham> Hello o/
[11:22] <hillary>  mr_64br13l: what could i be missing then
[11:22] <Goutham> I need a small help in ubuntu 13.10
[11:23] <Goutham> Anyone ?
[11:23] <DJones> Goutham: You need to ask your question before people will know whether they're able to help
[11:23] <Kelly> not being given any option at youtube for html5   ...the area where video screen is ..is white..it flashes black like it wants to play but goes back to white.....btw...where do you determine what version of ubuntu you have running....from software center it says my pc is up to date
[11:23] <Goutham> Ok
[11:24] <DJones> Goutham: Just ask it in the channel and hopefully somebody will be able to help
[11:24] <bazhang> !version | Kelly
[11:24] <Goutham> Its not a problem in ubuntu, just need a help. I am using Windows 8 and Ubuntu 13.10. Windows 8 is now corrupted and I need to access some files in its partition thru Ubuntu to recover it.
[11:25] <DhammaMan> what have you tried yet Gou?
[11:25] <Goutham> While Mounting it shows the hibernation or fast resume
[11:25] <Goutham> error
[11:25] <DhammaMan> oooh
[11:26] <DhammaMan> hmm
[11:26] <Goutham> Though they are not enabled
[11:26] <Goutham> Since i have accessed them many times
[11:26] <mr_64br13l> hillary: I think some sort of unsolved bug.
[11:26] <DhammaMan> Yeah I've never heard of that
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Goutham, you may be jammed.  if windows exited while it was hibernated/suspended, ubuntu is not going to override that
[11:26] <Goutham> So is there someway to force mount or something so that I can recover some files
[11:27] <DhammaMan> Isn't there a closed bit when hybernating?
[11:27] <DhammaMan> closing
[11:27] <Goutham> I cant access windows 8 anymore as its corrupted
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Goutham, only way i've seen is to reboot windows and exit properly ...
[11:27] <Goutham> stuck in windows 8 logo
[11:27] <grahamsavage> trying to create an ext4 partition using disk util and i get this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/726472b46fa1c339dc4c
[11:27] <DhammaMan> f9 after post then safemode
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Goutham, immediately after ubuntu installation?
[11:27] <grahamsavage> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[11:27] <Goutham> Windows 8 ISO file is in the Windows 8 parition
[11:29] <Goutham> cfhowlett, I am using Ubuntu and Windows 8 alongside for months with accessing Win8 parition thru mount.
[11:29] <Goutham> But since WIndows 8 is corrupted and the Wind8 ISO file is in the WIndows 8 partition.
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Goutham, ah, so not actually booting win8?
[11:29] <Goutham> I just need to reinstall windows 8 since some software installtion corrupted it
[11:30] <DhammaMan> Norton
[11:30] <DhammaMan> lol
[11:30] <Goutham> And the windows 8 installation iso files is stuck in the Win8 partition
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> Goutham  how is that ubuntu related?
[11:30] <Goutham> And i thought i can recover it thru Ubuntu but I cant mount
[11:30] <DhammaMan> sudo nautilus
[11:30] <DhammaMan> right no
[11:30] <DhammaMan> mount
[11:31] <xeni> so yet another Kelly gets his youtube working and there is no thank yous or anything
[11:31] <Goutham> MonkeyDust, I used to access windows 8 partition thru mount and i am thinking of doing it to take the Windows 8 iso file to repair it but mounting it now shows hibernation error ;(
[11:31] <DhammaMan> exact error:
[11:31] <DhammaMan> ?
[11:31] <Goutham> So is there some command to force mount
[11:31] <Goutham> Error mounting /dev/sda3 at /media/goutham/Goutham: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda3" "/media/goutham/Goutham"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[11:31] <Goutham> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[11:31] <Goutham> Failed to mount '/dev/sda3': Operation not permitted
[11:31] <Goutham> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[11:31] <Goutham> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[11:31] <DhammaMan> well mount -f /dev/sdx
[11:31] <Goutham> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Goutham  and use !paste for multi-line messages
[11:33] <DhammaMan> y
[11:33] <DhammaMan> sudo mount /dev/sda (to whatever mount point
[11:33] <Kelly> ugg....signed in as a guest...same issue...my firefox says version 27.0.01
[11:33] <DhammaMan> use option -f
[11:34] <DhammaMan> sudo mount -f /dev/sda1 mountpoint/
[11:34] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: What issue?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  what's your issue?
[11:34] <Kelly> youtube not letting me play videos
[11:34] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: Do you have flash?
[11:34] <Kelly> not sure...how do i install it?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:34] <DhammaMan> So who here knows iptables?
[11:35] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: Use google chrome, it comes pre installed with adobe flash.
[11:35] <Goutham> Nope still shows the error ;(
[11:35] <DhammaMan> rats
[11:35] <DhammaMan> sry
[11:35] <bazhang> DhammaMan, try #netfilter
[11:35] <Kelly> firefox was working with older unsupported version of ubuntu
[11:35] <DhammaMan> ty bazhang
[11:36] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: Its not a firefox problem, the pronlem is lack of flash.
[11:36] <Kablam> hi
[11:37] <DhammaMan> Nobody awake in #netfilter
[11:37] <parapan> dear folks can someone please explain how come my CPU supports PAE instructions, I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS v3 2 weeks ago / I manually installed pae kernel ......but still my system doesn't see the 4 GB of RAM ???
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> DhammaMan  you have waited only a few seconds
[11:38] <Kablam> i have a q question i used dd to clone my xbmc server startupdisk (/dev/sdf /dev/sda) but wheni boot from the clone it wont autostart xbmc anymore so i guess its not a exact clone...any ideas what to do?
[11:39] <DhammaMan> parapan; I saw you, I just don't know.
[11:39] <Kelly> ok wll sign out as a guest and try resisteicted extras installl
[11:39] <DhammaMan> night all
[11:39] <DhammaMan> exit
[11:39] <DhammaMan> whoops
[11:39] <DhammaMan> heh
[11:42] <Goutham> Used sudo mount -f /dev/sda1 mnt/
[11:43] <Goutham> But i cant find the mounted partition in mnt folder
[11:43] <Kablam> try /mnt
[11:44] <pranav> i cannot find my wireless network created by netgear router when i do >scan in wpa_cli
[11:45] <hillary> when copying content with graphics it takes time to finish in libre office writer 20.04. and the screen keeps freezing. what could be really the problem here?
[11:45] <kingplusplus> Please i have an Ubuntu server running, connect via ssh, how can i login to the server and run a commandline program which takes hours to finish processing its task? But also, i want to close the terminal from my system and be able to login later to see the progress of the program running
[11:45] <Goutham> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /mnt
[11:45] <Goutham> Kablam, ^
[11:45] <Goutham> But there is nothing in mnt
[11:45] <DJones> !screen | kingplusplus
[11:45] <llutz> kingplusplus: use screen
[11:47] <DJones> kingplusplus: Basically, SSH into the server, start screen, then run your command inside screen, you can then close the ssh session, come back later, ssh back in, connect to the screen session and your command will still be running
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> <3 screen
[11:47] <awakening> cant bind buttons via xwacomset on my tablet, anyone had the same problem?
[11:47] <Kablam> goutham do "cd /media" then "mkdir harddrive" then " sudo mount -f /dev/sda1 /media/harddrive"
[11:48] <Kablam> then it should be in /media/harddrive
[11:49] <awakening> it supposed to echo the command i bound, but i'm getting nothing
[11:49] <Kablam> oo and set corect permission for that harddrive folder
[11:50] <awakening> oh you gotta be kidding me, now its working >_>
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> awakening  that's how good this channel is
[11:50] <awakening> yeah =)
[11:51] <Laibsch> I'm trying to record the audio from a webinar. I am using gnome-sound-recorder to do that. The problem is that the sound from the microphone always gets mixed in, resulting in background noise.  What do I need to do (in precise, if that matters) to prevent this?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Laibsch  in a terminal, type alsamixer, disable mic boost
[11:56] <makije> kingplusplus, you can use something like screen, for example, "screen -R <jobname> <command>" then detach it with CTRL+A+D and reattach using "screen -R <jobname>"
[11:56] <makije> kingplusplus, sorry, dont add the <command>... use like "screen -R <jobname>" then when screen opens type your command..
[11:56] <wsnipex> kingplusplus, nohup
[11:56] <wsnipex> or screen
[11:56] <DJones> makije: You'll have to repost that message, they were part of the netsplit
[11:57] <makije> DJones, I will, will wait a little more time until it settles..
[11:58] <DJones> makije: Yeah, don't blame you, certainly splitsville at the minute
[11:58] <makije> DJones, I know, for sure it is
[11:58] <kingplusplus> wsnipex, thanks would look into it
[12:00] <makije> kingplusplus, It seems you found a solution elsewhere during the netslit but you can use screen use it like "screen -R <jobname>" then when screen opens type your command.. Detach using CTRL+A+D, reattach with "screen -R <jobname>"
[12:00] <Kelly> ugg very frustrated ...i did the sudo apt  get install ubuntu restricted extras.....everything installed ok....still not able to watch youtube videos...is there a way to install flash directly?
[12:01] <kingplusplus> makije thats wonderful command problem solved
[12:01] <makije> kingplusplus, thats great :)
[12:02] <Kelly> at youtube i dont see the option for html5  is it hidden somewhere?
[12:02] <hateball> Kelly: Browse to https://www.youtube.com/html5 and enable it
[12:02] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: I told you to install Google chrome, that will solve all your problems.
[12:03] <Kelly> i dont want to use chrome.... been down that road  already
[12:03] <jack> mr_64br13l1: confirmed. best browser.
[12:04] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Thats the only way to be on the latest version of flash.
[12:05] <DJones> Kelly: You could try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[12:05] <basketball> hwy
[12:05] <basketball> !gnpme
[12:06] <Kelly> i will try that..i dont understand why the old version of ubuntu worked fine...then the upgraded version gives you headaches?
[12:07] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Get a head massage. (;
[12:08] <cm13g09> Bah, just hit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/477167
[12:08] <Kelly> at terminal it says my flash is already the newest version
[12:09] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Adobe ahs quit support for flash, so its not the latest.
[12:09] <Guest1234567> I am getting the following error at boot: stopping block the moutning even for nfs filesystems until statd is ru. What can i do?
[12:09] <Kelly> so chrome is the only sollution?
[12:09] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Yep.
[12:10] <Kelly> sudo apt-get google-chrome-install?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  or chromium-browser
[12:10] <Guest1234567> I am getting the following error at boot: stopping block the mounting even for nfs filesystems until statd is running, can someone help me my server isnt booting atm and i need it up asap.
[12:10] <DJones> Kelly: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[12:10] <Kelly> ty
[12:11] <llutz> "already the newest version" is an apt message and means "newest version available in repos", not newest version on earth
[12:11] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[12:11] <jack> real pkgname is google-chrome-stable
[12:12] <jack> if you download from google
[12:12] <rumer> hi
[12:12] <justaguy> Those repo's of ubutnu
[12:12] <justaguy> *ubuntu
[12:12] <justaguy> hmm, weird, the belgium repo's of ubuntuu are SLOWER then the netherlannds repo's
[12:12] <Guest1234567> I am getting the following error at boot: stopping block the mounting even for nfs filesystems until statd is running, can someone help me my server isnt booting atm and i need it up asap.
[12:12] <Kelly> if this does not work i think i may just install the old unsupported version of ubuntu again
[12:13] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Google Chrome will end your headache for once and for all.
[12:13] <jack> justaguy, no surprise... .nl->.be is multiple gigabits
[12:13] <justaguy> yep
[12:14] <justaguy> i get 1MB to NL repo's, only 182KB/s to belgium repo's
[12:14] <jack> their .be server might be slammed atm
[12:15] <justaguy> jack: nah, belgium has very slow and retarded ISP's
[12:15] <jack> ok, that too
[12:15] <justaguy> stuff like datalimits and blocking portforwarding on ports below 1024
[12:16] <mr_64br13l1> justaguy: Thats the best thing business wise.
[12:16] <justaguy> mr_64br13l1: yep, there are 2 main big isp's , belgacom and telenet, i'm with telenet and they are stupid with datalimits and portforwarding blocks, but belgacom isn't
[12:17] <justaguy> but belgacom is crap quality in my city, so i'm just forced to use telenet :s
[12:17] <justaguy> and only have 150GB/month :d
[12:17] <mr_64br13l1> Too less.
[12:18] <ChrisH> I need to upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to the pre-release of Ubuntu 14.04LTS, anyone a link a hand on release notes, howto? I was unable to find anything other then "upgrade-manager -d and click in the GUI"
[12:18] <cm13g09> ChrisH: I suspect do-release-upgrade will also have the necessary flags
[12:19] <cm13g09> That is, assuming you want to command line upgrdae
[12:19] <Kelly> it looks like google chrome stable is available from the ubuntu software center
[12:20] <Kelly> installing google crap now
[12:20] <ChrisH> cm13g09: CLI is prefered. And do-release-upgrade will offer the prelease of 14.04LTS?
[12:20] <Kelly> sad day when mozzila removed from my system
[12:20] <cm13g09> ChrisH: I suspect so - but I'd need to check command line options
[12:24] <Kelly> what a bunch of poo.....chrome loaded and installed but will not start  wth
[12:26] <Kelly> what is the new version of Debian using as a defalt browser to watch videos on the internet such as youtube?
[12:27] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: epiphany
[12:28] <Kelly> and it works right out of the box per se? with fresh install of debian?
[12:28] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: It works but it is useless for both of us because we use youtube.
[12:29] <rommel> Kelly, dont you have to install adobe for that to work
[12:29] <linuxzy> anyone?
[12:29] <rommel> ?
[12:30] <Kelly> i am so frustrated with ubuntu right now.....i dont know why my video is not working.......ubuntu went backwards?
[12:30] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: I am using a deraivative of Ubuntu.
[12:31] <linuxzy> maybe you shoud change a video player
[12:31] <Kelly> chrome will not work...wth...
[12:31] <fidel> Kelly: if you are still about youtube - i assume flash might be your issue. mind trying chrome? should come with a working version of flash out of the box
[12:31] <fidel> ups - really?
[12:32] <jack> mr_64br13l1, mint?
[12:32] <mr_64br13l1> jack: Elemntary Os
[12:33] <mr_64br13l1> elementary*
[12:33] <jack> ok - is it good?
[12:33] <mr_64br13l1> Yep.
[12:33] <Kelly> i tried VLC, chrome , updated ubuntu restricted extras.........   i cant be the only person with  these issues...running older pc
[12:33] <jack> i might try it too
[12:33] <linuxzy> really?
[12:34] <linuxzy> pear os is good too
[12:34] <mr_64br13l1> Elementary os looks gorgeous compared to others.
[12:34] <mr_64br13l1> Pear os support has ended.
[12:34] <linuxzy> like mac os
[12:34] <llutz> !ot
[12:34] <rommel> mr_64br13l1, what de does elementary use
[12:35] <mr_64br13l1> rommel: pm me, CAnt talk about other distros here.
[12:35] <rommel> ahh
[12:35] <llutz> take it to #elementary
[12:35] <rommel> lol
[12:35] <linuxzy> ubunutu is a litter ,,,
[12:36] <linuxzy> i have to use ubunutu to learn Linux &C
[12:37] <mr_64br13l1> linuxzy: How are you learning it?
[12:37] <rommel> first i have tried ubuntu... been a day now and after the nightmarish install that has no intractive interface to speak of it seems ok if you like things that just kind of work.
[12:37] <linuxzy> i have teacher
[12:38] <Kelly> bs  if ubuntu cant play videos...this is a major problem for those of us who upload videos for a living.....there has to be a fix to this
[12:38] <rommel> Kelly, it does so it is something foobar on your box
[12:38] <Kelly> it was working just fine with ubuntu 11
[12:39] <rommel> i am using 13.something and it is working
[12:39] <mr_64br13l1> 13 is not LTS
[12:39] <linuxzy> 12.04 is LTS
[12:40] <mr_64br13l1> LTZ is always better for daily use.
[12:40] <rommel> i am not sure what that means but 12. install dvd locked up on the laptop... so 13 it was
[12:40] <mr_64br13l1> LTS*
[12:40] <Kelly> at my terminal....nothing happens if i type version
[12:40] <wc-it> how to connect to server
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  cat /etc/issue
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  or lsb_release -sd
[12:41] <rommel> mr_64br13l1, heh i have been running gentoo and funtoo now for almost 12 yrs... i think it is a matter of effort
[12:41] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: lsb_release -a
[12:42] <mr_64br13l1> rommel: What effort are you talking about?
[12:42] <Kelly> command not found
[12:42] <mr_64br13l1> try mine
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  try   cat /etc/issue
[12:44] <Kelly> ty 12.04.4 lts
[12:44] <Kelly> LTS
[12:44] <Laibsch> MonkeyDust: thank you for that hint. I have two entries for Mic boost there: "Mic Boost" and "Internal Mic Boost".  I set them both to 0 and that resulted in a recording with a lower audio level but still the background noise :-(
[12:45] <Kelly> i dont know what to do......wipe out ubuntu and go with another distros?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  what do you want to achieve?
[12:46] <Kelly> chrome not working...installed it...i need to upload and play teaching videos at youtube
[12:46] <linuxzy> remove it and reinstall it
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[12:47] <linuxzy> yes ,ups
[12:47] <linuxzy> i learnd this just today
[12:50] <Tryacker> yop !
[12:50] <mr_64br13l1> chromium is nto chrome.
[12:50] <mr_64br13l1> not*
[12:51] <thoonai> heyho, I want to restrict user rights, so users cannot start a program like virtualbox
[12:51] <thoonai> any idea how I get this properly working?
[12:51] <xutl> !14.04
[12:51] <llutz> thoonai: don't add them to the vboxusers group
[12:52] <thoonai> llutz: that doestn work :/
[12:52] <xutl> !release
[12:52] <xutl> release date for 14.04 ?
[12:52] <thoonai> my user is not in the vboxusers group and still is allowed to start virtualbox and start a vm
[12:52] <llutz> xutl: april
[12:52] <xutl> llutz: april what ?
[12:52] <llutz> xutl: april 2014
[12:52] <DJones> xutl: Something like 25th April, may be a few days either side though
[12:53] <llutz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:53] <xutl> 25th hmm
[12:53] <DJones> xutl: Actually, 17th
[12:53] <Goutham> Hey
[12:53] <xutl> any changes with respect to braodcom wifi chips driver in 14.04 ?
[12:53] <Goutham> I am going reinstall Windows 8
[12:53] <Goutham> Will it affect ubuntu?
[12:54] <Goutham> I mean the boot menu
[12:54] <thoonai> at least XP and 7 did, so I expect it will too
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> xutl  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:54] <thoonai> windows uses its own bootloader afaik
[12:54] <xutl> any changes with respect to broadcom wifi chips driver in 14.04 ?
[12:55] <Goutham> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 in my laptop along with Windows 8 reading some tutorial. Now my Win8 is corrupted and i am installing it again
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> xutl better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:55] <thoonai> Goutham: you may have to reinstall grub after your win install
[12:55] <xutl> kk
[12:55] <Goutham> thoonai how can i i install grub.
[12:55] <Goutham> sorry. I did that somehow reading online. Is there a  link bro you can suggest
[12:55] <Goutham> or I will find in google
[12:56] <Goutham> Mine is older laptop
[12:56] <Goutham> So i think its easy
[12:56] <linuxzy> you can use a NTtools to fix the boot menu
[12:56] <thoonai> Goutham: you can boot a live cd and get to the command line and execute grub-install
[12:56] <sewo> I have installed apache 2.4, and then from the installed files I deleted one file, that I would like to look into again, how can I do this without installing again ?
[12:57] <Goutham> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:57] <Goutham> thoonai, Shall i follow it ^
[12:57] <thoonai> Goutham: looks fine for me
[12:57] <Goutham> TBRO
[12:58] <Goutham> thank you bro
[12:59] <newbie34> while typing varible names with underscores i often leave shift pressed after underscore, so visible_data_ becomes visible_Data_
[12:59] <newbie34> is there a way i can hook linux keyboard handling? ( i wish to make any uppercase letter pressed immidietly after underscore to be lowercase no matter what )
[12:59] <Kelly> ok that install of chrome work...it now opens but at youtube it says could not install the plugin    UGGGGG
[13:00] <Kelly> shockwave flash not loading on chrome
[13:00] <thoonai> llutz: any idea besides deleting the users from vboxusers group?
[13:01] <thoonai> anyone an idea how to restrict users to execute programs like virtualbox?
[13:01] <jamescarr> GNUTLS is unpatched in 12.04
[13:01] <przemek> hello any ideas how to remove ssd disk password left by ex customer ,ssd model - toshiba 128 gb :(
[13:06] <ChrisH> thoonai: remove the package! Better explain why you want to do that.
[13:08] <Kelly> ok......another ubuntu user frustrated and left hanging ............the future is microsoft?  Nooooooo!!!1
[13:08] <thoonai> ChrisH: I want to allow users to work with one virtual machine which settings are set up to protect the host network. but the user should not be allowed to create any other machine or change the settings
[13:10] <pierreN_> hi! after an upgrade i've got the no screen found error when trying to run startx. i don't even have a clue how to start debugging this. any help please? :)
[13:11] <thoonai> ChrisH: the idea was to create a script with setuid for the user vbox which should be the only one able to do all the stuff with virtualbox
[13:11] <thoonai> pierreN_: first: does your graphics card is there?
[13:12] <pierreN_> i think it bugs to load the GLX extension (i.e. Loading extension GLX \n (EE)) but i don't know why now
[13:12] <pierreN_> thoonai: yes, just tried an aptitude dist-upgrade rebooted and...
[13:12] <thoonai> ooph
[13:13] <pierreN_> thoonai: in the past there was /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it seems to have disappear...
[13:14] <pierreN_> (i mean like at least 5 years ago i can't really find where to configure X now)
[13:14] <thoonai> pierreN_: tbh I think that X is the pure evil
[13:15] <pierreN_> thoonai: yup buut... ^
[13:17] <ChrisH> 10.209.182.138:ts2ucima002-ilo
[13:17] <thoonai> ChrisH: ?
[13:18] <ChrisH> thoonai: as long as you allow the user to start vbox he will be able to install/create a new VM into his home. But you can start their VMs automagically using vbox-headless (IIRC). Forget aboyt the IP, accidently paste
[13:19] <pierreN_> thoonai: just was the driver missing. haem. thanks.
[13:19] <thoonai> pierreN_: sorry for not being that helpfull :)
[13:21] <thoonai> ChrisH: how do I disallow users to use vbox?
[13:21] <thoonai> taking them out of vboxusers does not work
[13:21] <thoonai> I actually tried that
[13:22] <cy3g2> halp! I made the incredibly stupid move of installing 13.04 and now I'm not getting updates anymore. And I don't have a lot of time to re-configure everything. :\
[13:23] <cy3g2> I have quite a bit of stuff installed from PPA's and stuff and that makes it more complicated.
[13:23] <DJones> cy3g2: 13.04 is EOL, thats probably why you're not getting updates
[13:23] <cy3g2> DJones: I know. I was dumb to choose a non-LTS release.
[13:23] <cy3g2> *for choosing
[13:23] <skramer_> cy3g2: no problem, just upgrade to 13.10
[13:24] <ChrisH> thoonai: depending on your users group: chmod 700 $VBOXBINARY might be an option
[13:24] <cy3g2> skramer_: I'm afraid it would brake something. :(
[13:24] <cy3g2> *break
[13:24] <hje841> How can I visualize data in with GTK+ 3?
[13:24] <unixfreak> With `iwconfig' output, what would be the cause of "Invalid Misc" being above zero?
[13:26] <skramer_> cy3g2:on my laptop I have Kubuntu 13.10, it once had been 11.10 and I simply upgraded whenever new version was released. No problems so far...
[13:26] <thoonai> ChrisH: thanks
[13:26] <thoonai> ChrisH: I'll try that
[13:26] <cy3g2> skramer_: I have had bad experiences with upgrading in the past. :(
[13:28] <cy3g2> I guess I should just build a new second computer with an identical configuration and install everything on that and then copy all the data files over...
[13:28] <skramer_> cy3g2: Hmm..., that sounds like a good idea ;)
[13:29] <cy3g2> I can't believe it's already 2014 and there's no reliable way to upgrade without the fear of something breaking.
[13:31] <thoonai> ChrisH: thx much a lot :)
[13:31] <cy3g2> How likely is it that I would get haxx0red if I stay on the vulnerable system until the next proper LTS release comes out? :\
[13:37] <julio> buenos días?
[13:38] <Hanumaan> how to mount drives which are not yet mounted in fstab ? I mean how to mount only newly added drives in fstab ?
[13:41] <ChrisH> Hanumaan: mount -a will try to mount all and skoip the mounted with: allready mounted. Plan b mount /some/mount/point/from/fstab
[13:43] <kingplusplus> please how do i login after creating a user in Ubuntu Server, i used the "useradd testers" command and can't login i am getting permission denied on the ssh
[13:45] <user> hello
[13:46] <user> what is the command to start the powersetting thing? I am using i3wm, and want it to stop going into hibernation (it just freezes when it does)
[13:49] <user_> oi
[13:50] <user_> oi
[13:51] <laricia> oi marcelo
[13:55] <sgo11> hi, if I run "sudo dmidecode --type memory" , it returns "Number Of Devices: 4". does it mean I have 4 RAM slots? I remembered the last time I opened the cover, it just has two RAM slots if my memory is not wrong. thanks.
[13:56] <kingplusplus> hey anyone know how to copy all txt in a file to clipboard in vi? i tried :%y+ it says Invalid register
[13:59] <kingplusplus> hey anyone know how to copy all txt in a file to clipboard in vi? i tried :%y+ it says Invalid register name
[14:01] <kingplusplus> hey anyone know how to copy all txt in a file to clipboard in vi? i tried :%y+ it says Invalid register name
[14:03] <sgo11> kingplusplus, first select the text, and then "+y for pasting with ctrl+v. "*y for pasting with middle mouse button.
[14:03] <sgo11> I mean ctrl+v in other applications like browser.
[14:04] <kingplusplus> sgo11, how do i copy all text?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> kingplusplus, select + right click + copy
[14:06] <sgo11> kingplusplus, first select them. I am not vim expert. for me, I will do this: ESC, gg (to top), v (to select mode), G (to bottom), then "+y or "*y
[14:11] <leshaste> is there a java profile in ubuntu?
[14:11] <leshaste> profiler I mean
[14:13] <stianhj> leshaste: like http://visualvm.java.net?
[14:14] <stianhj> it's in the repos
[14:18] <Kully> anyone have any experience placing two ubuntu distrobutions on a lan in aws?
[14:19] <luft> can I get some help on iptables forwarding?
[14:20] <leshaste> stianhj, thanks
[14:20] <luft> I have a guest vm with qemu that is accessible at 192.168.122.33
[14:21] <alok99> I don't remember who I spoke with briefly yesterday about Ubuntu on an iMac
[14:21] <luft> it has a webserver on it, and I can download the home webpage with the host machine with wget 192.168.122.33
[14:21] <alok99> but I got it working
[14:21] <alok99> http://i.imgur.com/r0JeyvN.jpg
[14:21] <luft> i want to forward requests on port 60213 on the host machine to 192.168.122.33:80
[14:22] <luft> i tried these rules but they didn't work when I tried "wget localhost:60213" on the host machine
[14:24] <luft> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 60213 -j DNAT --to 192.168.122.33 && iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i virbr0 -d 192.168.122.33 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[14:24] <kingplusplus> sorry when vim says 27 lines yanked i think it means its on clipboard, but when i paste the data i get different stuff pasted
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kingplusplus: are you pasting into vim?
[14:25] <kingplusplus> ActionParsnip, actually am pasting into nano
[14:26] <kingplusplus> ActionParsnip, i want to copy and paste from local host to remote host
[14:28] <leshaste> stianhj, how do you start it?
[14:29] <dupingping_> hi
[14:29] <bananapie> dupingping_ hi
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[14:29] <SirLagz> pooky248321: do you send overseas ?
[14:29] <somsip> !spam | pooky248321
[14:30] <bananapie> !spam ubottu
[14:30] <pooky248321> these are free
[14:30] <somsip> SirLagz: this is not the place. take it to pm
[14:30] <dupingping> !spam | pooky248321
[14:30] <somsip> pooky248321: no ads here
[14:30] <SirLagz> somsip: sorry
[14:30] <pooky248321> OK
[14:30] <somsip> pooky248321: thank you
[14:31] <dupingping> hi who is ubuntu developer?
[14:31] <Pessimist> dupingping, canonical
[14:32] <bananapie> dupingping_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[14:33] <dupingping> Hi, who is know that proxy protocol?
[14:33] <dupingping> !proxy
[14:33] <dupingping> !protocol
[14:33] <ashish> what is best option for amd4000 series card in dabian for best performance
[14:34] <dupingping> @ashish I don't know.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> ashish, ask the #debian channel
[14:34] <dupingping> ok, ashish.
[14:34] <dupingping> go over there.
[14:35] <Guest93441> dupingping, i m using ubuntu thats why asked here
[14:37] <Pessimist> Guest93441, http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[14:39] <dupingping> Guest93441 what?
[14:42] <dupingping> Hey
[14:42] <dupingping> I'm a recovery exporter
[14:42] <dupingping> I'm a recovery expert
[14:43] <somsip> dupingping: do you have a support question or are you here to help others?
[14:43] <dupingping> yes?
[14:43] <dupingping> I saw
[14:43] <dupingping> a question, today.
[14:43] <somsip> dupingping: please keep on the topic of support in here. Anything else can go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <dupingping> I am going to reply about that.
[14:44] <dupingping> That problem is one about lost data.
[14:45] <dupingping> somsip It's not able?
[14:45] <majod> hello. mi trying to install ubuntu 12.04, after i boot the installation and i press "try ubuntu", my ethernet is not detected at all. should i try to install it, or it wont work anyway?
[14:45] <masood> anyone knows samba here to ask my question?
[14:45] <somsip> dupingping: the question makes no sense. You need to ask it differently
[14:45] <somsip> !anyone | masood
[14:45] <cfhowlett> majod, install without ethernet and configure it after installation.
[14:46] <majod> cfhowlett, and how?
[14:46] <majod> without internet
[14:46] <cfhowlett> majod, did you finish installing?
[14:46] <majod> no
[14:46] <majod> i didnt even start
[14:46] <cfhowlett> majod, you do NOT need the internet to install.
[14:46] <majod> i know
[14:46] <majod> i meant, how do i troubleshoot without internet?
[14:46] <majod> i have no idea what to do with it
[14:47] <masood> !details
[14:47] <cfhowlett> majod, after you've finished installing, come back to this channel
[14:47] <majod> :D
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !ethernet
[14:48] <masood> please help, samba does not work. binding to ldap server failed!
[14:48] <majod> allright, i come back with my internet not working
[14:48] <masood> lib/smbldap.c:(smbldap_connect_system)failed to bind to server ldapi:/// with dn="uid=samba,ou=system-accounts,dc=example,dc=com" Error: Invalid credentials
[14:48] <masood> I use Ubuntu 12.04, openldap 2.4.28, samba 3.6.3
[14:48] <Pessimist> masood, Error: Invalid credentials
[14:49] <masood> yes
[14:49] <psdn> If I cmake, make, and install a program from commandline, how do I remove it if I choose to reinstall??
[14:49] <JustMozzy> hey guys. shouldn't apache be by default able to write to tmp?
[14:49] <somsip> JustMozzy: /tmp should be 777
[14:49] <masood> I set password for samba by smbpasswd -w
[14:49] <Pici> masood: looks to me that you don't have a ldap server defined there.
[14:50] <usr13_> luft: Why not tell the webserver to listen on port 60213?
[14:50] <JustMozzy> somsip: it is but for some reason... wait not apache but ruby is not able to write to it
[14:50] <Pessimist> psdn, that's why you use a package manager. If a program = one binary file in /usr/bin then you can just remove it, else it's hard
[14:50] <luft> usr13_: because the webserver in question is on a vm
[14:50] <terho> :D
[14:50] <Guest93441> how to install amd4000 sries driver in ubuntu13.10
[14:50] <masood> Pici: I have, and ldapsearch -x works
[14:50] <usr13_> luft: Why does that matter?
[14:51] <psdn> package manager was several version behind. Had to do it by hand.
[14:51] <somsip> JustMozzy: maybe #ruby would be a better place to ask. You could prepare a pastebin of the error and post it here in case, but...
[14:51] <terho> installing Zentyal server and drinking coffee :3
[14:52] <usr13_> luft: What OS is the host and what OS is the guest?
[14:52] <terho> ?
[14:52] <JustMozzy> somsip: never mind. just deleted everything in /tmp and it worked... odd
[14:52] <luft> usr13_: host is ubuntu, guest is fedora 20
[14:52] <Pessimist> psdn, most of the time there is a ppa with the up-to-date version of the software because Ubuntu is the most popular gnu/linux distribution
[14:53] <usr13_> luft: And the webserver is listening on 192.168.122.33 ?
[14:54] <dupingping> Hi
[14:54] <dupingping> all men
[14:55] <dupingping> I know you as ...
[14:55] <usr13_> luft: And the webserver is listening on 192.168.122.33:80  Right?
[14:55] <somsip> !ot | dupingping
[14:55] <luft> usr13_: the guest vm is at 192.168.122.33 on the host, and yes I can wget 192.168.122.33
[14:55] <Pici> dupingping: you seem to have the enter key confused with the spacebar.  You can put more than 3 words on a line.
[14:55] <Pessimist> we need to notify the ops about dupingping
[14:56] <somsip> Pessimist: Pici is one
[14:56] <dupingping> Ah, I understood.
[14:56] <Pessimist> !ops
[14:56] <Pici> Pessimist: yes?
[14:56] <h00k> Pessimist: it's not quite an emergency :(
[14:57]  * cfhowlett agrees
[14:57] <usr13_> luft: And you are trying to implement the rules on the guest machine.  Right?
[14:58] <luft> usr13_: I'm trying to get the host machine to forward requests on port 60213 to the guest machine
[14:59] <dry[1]> hi. what's currently the best software on ubuntu to create games for android?
[14:59] <badass> how can i do a conditional statement in bash to compare the md5sum of a file to a static string?
[14:59] <badass> if [[ $(md5sum filename) == "abcdefghijklmnop1234567890" ]]; then echo 'hello'; fi
[14:59] <badass> something like that
[15:00] <Guest93441> how to install amd4000 sries driver in ubuntu13.10
[15:00] <cfhowlett> badass, ask the !bash channel    ?
[15:00] <usr13_> luft: I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle.  The guest machine is listening to the outside too, so you need to just concentrate on the guest machine.  Again;  Why not just make the webserver listen on the port you want it to?
[15:00] <jpds> badass: Put the sums in a file and use; md5sum -c $FILE; echo $?
[15:02] <usr13_> luft: But, I may not be understanding exactly what you really want to do, (because you've not explained in detail what the circumstances are and what it is you really are trying to to here).
[15:02] <usr13_> to do here
[15:02] <usr13_> not "to to here"
[15:03] <luft> usr13_: how would the guest machine be listening outside the host's network? it's in NAT mode
[15:03] <usr13_> luft: Well, it shouldn't be
[15:04] <usr13_> luft: Should be bridged
[15:04] <luft> bridged requires a lot more changes of the host server, which I would prefer not to do since I'm not too familiar with it
[15:05] <usr13_> luft: I don't know that it really requires a lot more changes, but to my way of thinking, that's what you need, because if it were bridged, the guest would be listening independly to the outside.
[15:06] <usr13_> luft: And then the router would be forwarding a port to it.
[15:06] <usr13_> luft: Right?
[15:07] <luft> usr13_: that's problem #2, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
[15:07] <usr13_> luft: Looks like you're already on that bridge ;0
[15:08] <luft> usr13_: the host machine already has an apache2 server bound to 80
[15:08] <usr13_> O
[15:08] <luft> right now I'm just trying to get the vm's apache accessible from the host's IP address
[15:08] <luft> on the host
[15:09] <usr13_> luft: Ok, then, I'm a bit confused as to why you would have 2 servers running on the same network?
[15:09] <luft> then I'll open the port when I'm happy
[15:09] <usr13_> luft: Why two web-servers?
[15:09] <luft> usr13_: host machine's apache2 is the production server, vm is test server
[15:10] <usr13_> luft: If it is the test server, why does it need outside access?
[15:10] <luft> just so my lab members can test it easily instead of downloading and installing libvirtd etc etc
[15:11] <usr13_> luft: Ok
[15:11] <usr13_> luft: And lab members are on the other side of the same router.  Right?
[15:12] <luft> yes
[15:12] <usr13_> luft: In that case, you should probably have an alias on another IP for it.
[15:13] <usr13_> luft: So instead of just a different port, use a different IP address.
[15:13] <usr13_> luft: Ok?
[15:14] <luft> usr13_: I don't know if I have enough control over the network at the moment to perform such a change
[15:14] <usr13_> luft: You don't have access to another IP address?
[15:15] <usr13_> luft: ...because that's all you need, is one more IP address.  Right?
[15:16] <luft> usr13_: wouldn't that alias have to be added to another machine?
[15:17] <usr13_> luft: Well, the way you are doing it now, you could just add it to the host, and then forward it's port 80 traffic as you are tryint to do now, (only much simplier). Right?
[15:17] <usr13_> luft: At any rate, just using another IP address is the way to go.
[15:18] <luft> where would I add the alias?
[15:18] <usr13_> luft: Well, it's up to you, but if what you say is true, that the host is dong nat to the VM guest, then do it on the host, eth0:0
[15:19] <sidi> Hi. I'm currently looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_privilege_authorization_features and it seems to suggest that on *buntu systems, when an admin requires privilege escalation to root to perform an admin task, their password is asked instead of the root password. I seem to recall *buntu does not necessarily have a root password. Could anybody confirm whether it is indeed the user's password being asked?
[15:19] <usr13_> luft: Do you have an IP?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> !root
[15:19] <cfhowlett> sidi, sudoers have a password.  if you're doing a privileged task, the sudo password will be requested
[15:19] <luft> usr13_: I have a static ip assigned to eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:20] <sidi> cfhowlett, thanks. do you know if there's any documentation why this is considered a better practice than a root password?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> sidi, I know there is documentation/justification somewhere - can't advise further.  sorry.
[15:22] <nico__> hi everyone
[15:22] <nico__> i was wondering if someone can help me
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> nico__  let's hear it
[15:23] <nico__> im trying to use the hangout chrome extension like a desktop app for ubuntu unity
[15:24] <nico__> i wan to be able to set the windows in "always on top" and "follows" me in every desktop that im working at
[15:24] <sidi> cfhowlett, np, thanks.
[15:24] <nico__> i know that this can be done with cynamon or open box
[15:24] <luft> usr13_: I tried the bridging as you suggested and now the vm has no network: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038996/
[15:24] <nico__> but i like to do it with unity
[15:24] <luft> I followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmWithBridge
[15:27] <lovea> quit
[15:27] <nico__> MonkeyDust: do you think that someone can help me with that?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> nico__  no idea, never heard of it
[15:28] <usr13_> luft: Well, you have the same IP for both
[15:31] <luft> usr13_: oh the guide says to delete the definition of eth0 :X
[15:31] <usr13_> luft: I don't understand that guide at all
[15:32] <luft> usr13_: this is what I was afraid of, if I mess up the network config of this server, I dunno where it is and I only have an SSH connection to it and a lot of people depend on it for work
[15:33] <usr13_> luft: Then just put it back the way you had it.
[15:37] <usr13_> luft: (But what I just suggested was to leave it as you have it, (in nat mode), and create an alias on the host for the other webserver, and use iptables rule to forward the alias IP's port 80 traffic to the already existing guest interface.)
[15:39] <usr13_> luft: And you certainly did not tell us that you only have ssh access to this computer.
[15:39] <dry[1]> hi. what's currently the most popular software on ubuntu to create games for android?
[15:39] <genii> dry[1]: I would guess Eclipse
[15:40] <luft> usr13_: as far as I know. there's a lot I still don't know about this server and the 1 or 2 people who know anything about it don't seem to know too much either
[15:43] <dry[1]> genii: what do you think about stencyl?
[15:43] <odisa> Hello. I have an extra monitor connected to my laptop. Where can I find the best guide to have the external monitor display a different workspace?
[15:44] <genii> dry[1]: No opinion yet, since this is the first I've heard of it
[15:45] <usr13_> luft: Well, you and/or them, are going to learn a few things ASAP ;)
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> dry[1]  i guess you better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:46] <dry[1]> MonkeyDust: thx
[15:46] <usr13_> luft: until you lear to operate the VM, use another PC for the test server.
[15:46] <genii> dry[1]: There is also of course #android-dev ;)
[15:46] <dry[1]> genii: thx :)
[15:47] <usr13_> luft: And also remember that if you implement an iptables rule that doesn't work, back it out again before continuing.  (change the -A to -D).
[15:48] <luft> usr13_: yeah I have been
[15:48] <usr13_> Ok
[15:49] <luft> I'm gonna go ahead and log for the day and try again tomorrow
[15:49] <luft> cya
[15:50] <usr13_> luft: FYI there is also #Netfilter  (you could ask questions there too).
[15:50] <luft> kk i will
[15:51] <usr13_> luft: Ok, good luck with it. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[15:51] <ChrisH> cm13g09: Upgrade was successfully.. thanks
[15:53] <cm13g09> ChrisH: excellent :)  glad it worked
[15:54] <Indy_> A couple years ago (or, when Unity first made it into Ubuntu) I stopped using Ubuntu and switched back to windows after 3 years of linux use... Unity had some hideous graphical and usability bugs
[15:54] <brunoais> Hey!
[15:54] <Indy_> where i couldnt find solution, nor google or irc, forums etc
[15:54] <Indy_> i m gonna try with the new LTS... lets hope i dont get failed again :/
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: you dont have to use Unity......
[15:54] <brunoais> does anyone know how can I get the list of files a process has tried to open so far and failed to open?
[15:54] <usr13_> Indy_: Why didn't you try another Desktop Environmnent?
[15:55] <brunoais> if it is impossible, is there a way to attach a listener to such thing to a program to which I can't start directly?
[15:55] <tmmunq> yeah... i dont... i tried for a couple weeks but was constantly running into problems.
[15:55] <Indy_> ActionParsnip: ok
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: If you dont like Unity, don't use it, use a different shell like Gnome-shell. Or you can switch entirely to KDE, XFCE, LXDE and so on.
[15:55] <brunoais> (e.g. this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191964/how-do-i-know-which-file-a-program-is-trying-to-access  does not work for me)
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: is your dislike of Unity why you switch from Ubuntu?
[15:55] <Indy_> not dislike
[15:55] <usr13_> Indy_: If you did not like Unity, there was xfce lxde kde etc. etc.
[15:55] <Indy_> unusability in my case back then
[15:55] <Indy_> there were some serious bugs
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: thats fine. Again, you dont have to use Unity
[15:56] <Indy_> ok
[15:56] <Indy_> anyway, all I wanted to say
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: so why didnt you just switch session?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  if you don't like unity, don't use it... install and use something else
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: is that seriously your thought process...?
[15:56] <Indy_> was I really wanted the whole process to be smooth and seamless, not for me, I could find a solution, but for the end user
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: it is, install a new desktop, log off, log in to the new. Done
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[15:57] <Indy_> how much point is there for my grandma to use ubuntu if she has to switch from unity to another cause of unusability? shouldnt she just press the button and everything works?
[15:57] <Indy_> while the competition (windows, mac) is what it is
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: the session per user is remembered, so she'll just log in and get the sesison she used last
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  logout, switch, login, that's all there's to it
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: each user can use a different desktop if you want
[15:57] <Indy_> hmmm
[15:57] <Indy_> ok...
[15:58] <usr13_> Indy_: You find something you like and stick with it.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: if you want a windowsy feel, instal kubuntu, it uses KDE instead of Gnome
[15:58] <Indy_> no i dont want a windowsy feel i like gnome
[15:58] <Indy_> i didnt say that for myself i said it for all potential end users
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: then install Cinammon, its in the default repos
[15:59] <usr13_> Indy_: If you like gnome use it, (or xfce)
[15:59] <usr13_> Indy_: Or yea, Cinammon
[15:59] <Indy_> and as i said, it wasn't a matter of likeness etc, there were some plain, heavy usability bugs
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: the OS is very customisable, its like switching back to Windows because Firefox is the default web browser and you perfer Chrome
[15:59] <Indy_> and as i recall it wasn't as simple as "swicth DE option, logoff then login" cause that process had some bugs too
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: the desktop is as changable as a web browser
[16:00] <Indy_> i am talking about 3-4 versions ago
[16:00] <Indy_> when unity first made it in
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: its been like this since day 0
[16:00] <Indy_> all I am saying is I really hope those bold bugs are absent now
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: this is linux, where choice is champion
[16:00] <Indy_> hehe
[16:00] <trijntje> Indy_: the best way to help other users is to file bugs when you encounter problems, not complain about them 2 years later
[16:00] <usr13_> Indy_: I think that the point we are trying to make is that this is not a cookie-cutter OS, there are *many* options.
[16:00] <Indy_> trijntje: my smartass friend i did and did and did by bug report grew white beard
[16:01] <Indy_> but*
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: so can you see why switching back to windows, burely due to a dislike of Unity is quite hilarious
[16:01] <Indy_> i didnt do it cause of that (only)
[16:02] <Indy_> and i didnt exactly "switch"
[16:02] <usr13_> Indy_: What *exactly* did you do?
[16:02] <Indy_> i only had ubuntu on disk, and that (plus) some other things) made me dual boot with windows
[16:02] <Indy_> and the sad part is, that windows seemed much more seamless to use, without all those accessibility and usability bugs, my ubuntu installation was facing at that time
[16:03] <Indy_> and I am very much worried that if i was (subconsciously) discouraged like this
[16:03] <Indy_> imagine about end user
[16:03] <usr13_> Indy_: Did you look at the link that MonkeyDust sent you?  ( http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg  )
[16:03] <Indy_> yes
[16:03] <Indy_> you dont get my point guys
[16:03] <Indy_> I am just expressing my worry here
[16:04] <Indy_> that me, who i love linux open source etc, having the choice of dual boot, made me over time and time and time
[16:04] <Indy_> to use windows more --> to 100% :/
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  thank you for sharing your feelings with the channel, but also accept and try our suggestions
[16:04] <Indy_> cause of accessibility smoothness usability issues
[16:04] <Indy_> which i hope there are not present this time
[16:04] <usr13_> Indy_: What do you have installed now?
[16:04] <Indy_> MonkeyDust: sure
[16:05] <Indy_> usr13_: why does it matter?
[16:05] <Indy_> anyway, I didnt want to bitch or anything really :)
[16:05] <usr13_> Indy_: It matters because if we do not even know what you have installed, how can we give you any specific advise on what to do with it?
[16:05] <Indy_> I am gonna get the LTS when it comes out, and I will tell impressions, I am hoping and I am optimistic :)
[16:06] <Indy_> usr13_: i didnt come here asking for advice :)
[16:06] <Indy_> I just wanted to share this thought :/
[16:06] <Indy_> and concern
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  next time, don't use this channel for it
[16:06] <usr13_> Indy_: YOu can install 12.04.4 now and upgrade in April.
[16:07] <abaday> hello! How do I change in grub menu so that I can boot directly in bash so I can remove the password of root?
[16:07] <Indy_> MonkeyDust: and which one to use then?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> abaday  try recovery mode
[16:07] <Indy_> usr13_: I know but I choose not to, in order to emulate a "total end user's experience from scratch"
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[16:08] <Indy_> u got it..
[16:08] <whoever> when i hit alt:tab all of the little icons look the same
[16:08] <whoever> is this normal on 13.10
[16:08] <usr13_> Indy_: Or you can join  #ubuntu+1 and ask about the possibilities of installing 14.04 now.
[16:09] <Indy_> usr13_: thanks
[16:09] <bugs_bugger> hi there. does anybody know, how i can reset python3 to the default repository version(3.3.2) after having upgraded it compiling from newer sources(3.3.4)? apt-get --reinstall install wont reset the version
[16:09] <usr13_> Indy_: NP
[16:09] <abaday> MonkeyDust: I tried recovery mode, but it was only in read-only mode, so I cant change anything
[16:10] <trijntje> abaday: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:10] <abaday> trijntje: change password of root, I locked myself out
[16:11] <usr13_> !root | abaday
[16:11] <brunoais> Hey!
[16:11] <trijntje> abaday: of root or of the sudo user?
[16:11] <brunoais> does anyone know how can I get the list of files a process has tried to open so far and failed to open?
[16:11] <brunoais> if it is impossible, is there a way to attach a listener to such thing to a program to which I can't start directly?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> abaday  while in lightdm menu, hit ctrl alt F1 ... or is that not what you mean?
[16:11] <usr13_> !password | abaday
[16:12] <usr13_> MonkeyDust: I'm pretty sure what he has done is just forgot his password, so he just needs to follow the steps for password recovery.
[16:12] <abaday> my only other user than root has been removed from sudoers
[16:12] <brunoais> usr13_, if you REEEEALLY want to sdo stuff as root, then use:
[16:12] <brunoais> sudo su
[16:12] <usr13_> abaday: Did you enable the root account?
[16:13] <usr13_> abaday: Or did you just dissable sudo on your account?
[16:14] <brunoais> Hey!
[16:14] <brunoais> does anyone know how can I get the list of files a process has tried to open so far and failed to open?
[16:14] <brunoais> if it is impossible, is there a way to attach a listener to such thing to a program to which I can't start directly?
[16:15] <brunoais> (e.g. this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191964/how-do-i-know-which-file-a-program-is-trying-to-access  does not work for me)
[16:15] <abaday> usr13_: I disabled sudo on my account
[16:15] <allyai> llutz
[16:15] <Pici> brunoais: strace can do that, but it is really verbose.
[16:15] <usr13_> abaday: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[16:16] <brunoais> Pici, I have no probs with being verbose.
[16:16] <abaday> 13.10 usr13_
[16:16] <brunoais> Pici, Can I use it with a process name instead of a processid?
[16:16] <allyai> i get http://imgur.com/cInP4tF when i try to boot my windows drive without my ubuntu drive plugged in. how do i fix it?
[16:17] <brunoais> I dunno which of the processes is doing it I just know the name
[16:17] <brunoais> Pici, it has a long list of pids each time it opens
[16:17] <MosDef> ..
[16:17] <usr13_> abaday: Ok and you said that when you went into recovery mode, it was read only?
[16:18] <abaday> yes
[16:18] <usr13_> abaday: mount -o rw,remount /
[16:18] <usr13_> abaday: adduser username sudo replacing username with your user name
[16:19] <usr13_> abaday: You should at that point see a message saying 'adding user' followed by 'done'
[16:19] <Pici> brunoais: if it is opening child processes, you can use the -f option to automatically pull them in as they open or you can use pidof and multiple -p options to specify multiple pids.  (the manpage explains this)
[16:20] <brunoais> Pici, ok. maybe I can trace from the launcher
[16:20] <usr13_> abaday: But I'm curious as to why it is in read only mode.  Not sure why that is.
[16:20] <allyai> anyone know?
[16:20] <abaday> usr13_:  worked thanks!
[16:20] <usr13_> abaday: Ok good.
[16:20] <andres_> Hola
[16:20] <andres_> Hello
[16:21] <JoeSomebody> hi, gnome fans (i assume) i need help , kde seems pretty flaky on hdmi stuff, now that i am using something with an hdmi, maybe i need to revisit gnome (i was sorta against the lack of customizability if you remember) is hdmi gonna behave any better on gnome? :)
[16:22] <JoeSomebody> is there a ubuntu channel for tv stuff?
[16:23] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: For TV stuff, press power button on your remote control.  (sorry couldn't resist)
[16:24] <bugs_bugger> does anybody know, how i can reset python3 to the default repository version(3.3.2) after having upgraded it compiling from newer sources(3.3.4)? apt-get --reinstall install wont reset the version
[16:24] <andres_> lala
[16:25] <andres_> Hola - hello
[16:25] <lalatenduM> andres_, hi
[16:26] <andres_> do you speak spanish?
[16:26] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: Well, I thought I might keep the conversation alive until someone saw it and came up with a solution for you. But I'd say just try anoter DE and see.  Try xfce maybe?
[16:26] <JoeSomebody> tried nvidia and radeon, both,  and three kde distros, i am convinced the hdmi in linux is a bit flaky (or at least kde)
[16:26] <allyai> llutz told me this yesterday but i never got the chance to see how to fix:
[16:26] <Callan_> hello
[16:26] <allyai> [17:02] <llutz> allyai: grub needs the grub-files on your ubuntu-disk
[16:26] <allyai> [17:02] <llutz> allyai: no ubuntu-disk -> no bootmanager
[16:27] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: YOu may be right (about kde).
[16:27] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: I would expect Nvidia would work ok.
[16:27] <allyai> why do i need grub to boot windows though?
[16:27] <JoeSomebody> i s there a rolling release ubuntu of some kind?
[16:27] <Pici> JoeSomebody: no
[16:28] <Callan_> I believe the ubuntu download link is down for some reason
[16:28] <usr13_> allyai: Because grub is the default boot loader, (and it is easier that way).
[16:28] <JoeSomebody> can i upgrade xbmc within ubuntu 13.10?
[16:28] <GeekDude> If I'm aiming for lightweight, but with html5 support, I'd be wanting midori?
[16:28] <Callan_> Is anyone else having trouble downloading Ubuntu off the site? or the mirror?
[16:29] <mr_64br13l> GeekDude: Yep.
[16:29] <allyai> so how do i boot into windows without my ubuntu drive in then?
[16:29] <JoeSomebody> xbmcbuntu passed all tests, but no DE
[16:29] <usr13_> allyai: What kind of drive is it?  USB?
[16:29] <JoeSomebody> likes the hardware
[16:29] <allyai> ive got two hard drives. one with windows 7 and the other with ubuntu
[16:30] <allyai> only two sata ports, and ive got some data on some other drives i want to get off.
[16:30] <usr13_> allyai: Why would you unplug one of the drives?
[16:30] <allyai> but i cant boot into windows or ubuntu without both of those drives plugged in
[16:30] <allyai> what do you mean?
[16:30] <usr13_> allyai: Why are you unplugging the drive that has Ubuntu on it?
[16:31] <allyai> to plug in a drive that i need data off of
[16:32] <usr13_> allyai: Ok, I think this is what you need:  (a USB HD adapter, http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-IDE-SATA-S-ATA-2-5-3-5-HD-HDD-Adapter-Cable-/180550148600?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item2a09a0a1f8 )
[16:33] <usr13_> (everyone needs one of those...)  ^^^^^^^^
[16:34] <lattera> http://ix.io/aX0 <- why do programs fail to link with libcheck, even when I'm including the right dependencies?
[16:34] <GeekDude> The page 'file:///user/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html' could not be loaded
[16:34] <genii> usr13_: Yes, I keep 2 of those in my kit :)
[16:34] <GeekDude> I suppose that's because I'm on server instead of desktop?
[16:34] <iptable> GeekDude, the file on your computer doesn't exist.
[16:34] <iptable> GeekDude, also it's /usr/share, not /user
[16:34] <usr13_> allyai: Otherwise, plug the drive into another PC and copy the files across the network.
[16:34] <allyai> usr13_: i was gonna just get a pci cardf with the sata ports. but is there a way to fix this now?
[16:35] <usr13_> allyai: Yea, use another PC.
[16:35] <allyai> xD
[16:35] <usr13_> allyai: But the USB adapter is the best solution for sure.
[16:35] <GeekDude> iptable: I meant /usr. That's the message that displays when loading midori web browser
[16:35] <Spudguy> Hi guys. I have an Ubuntu laptop, I'm connected via wifi to a Comcast Xfinity connection. I can't resolve DNS or even ping IPs. So far I've managed to add 8.8.8.8 onto the DNS list of nm-tool but I'm now completely stuck.
[16:36] <usr13_> Spudguy: How is that?
[16:36] <allyai> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335353
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Spudguy: can you ping your router's internal ip?
[16:36] <usr13_> Spudguy: Not sure about "add 8.8.8.8 onto the DNS list of nm-tool" What is that all about?
[16:37] <allyai> how about that?
[16:37] <usr13_> Spudguy: Wouldn't you just add  "nameserver 8.8.8.8"  to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:37] <Spudguy> The only connection I can make is to 10.0.0.1, and that's loading in the browser
[16:37] <usr13_> Spudguy: Or the network-manager?
[16:37] <Spudguy> I did it via the network manager
[16:37] <GeekDude> Spudguy: what's on 10.0.0.1?
[16:37] <Spudguy> The router UI
[16:37] <usr13_> Spudguy: Oh ok.
[16:38] <n0x_42> I have shared directory and I need all created files/sub-directories to automatically have read/write for a specific group. How can I do that?
[16:38] <Spudguy> Sorry, I just said nm-tool as they seems to validate adding the server went through
[16:38] <Spudguy> that*
[16:38] <usr13_> Spudguy: Sorry I didn't get that, "nm-tool"="netowrk-manager"
[16:38] <Spudguy> Sorry. I added via network manager, but verified with nm-tool.
[16:39] <usr13_> Spudguy: Are you sure DNS is your problem?
[16:39] <n0x_42> Right now, the group only has read access.
[16:39] <usr13_> Spudguy: route -n
[16:39] <Spudguy> Well all other devices on the network are working
[16:39] <GeekDude> midori has built in adblock? Sweet
[16:39] <Spudguy> I have my routing table up, what am I looking for?
[16:39] <usr13_> Spudguy: What does   route -n    say?  (Does it give you the IP of your router as the default gateway?)
[16:40] <Spudguy> Yup, the first in the list shows my gateway IP
[16:40] <usr13_> Spudguy: ping 8.8.8.8   #Can you ping your nameserver of choice?
[16:40] <Spudguy> dest: 0.0.0.0, gateway 10.0.0.1, genmask 0.0.0.0
[16:40] <Spudguy> Can't ping 8.8.8.8
[16:41] <usr13_> Spudguy: Can you ping 10.0.0.1 ?
[16:41] <Spudguy> Yup
[16:41] <GeekDude> what is 10.0.0.1?
[16:41] <Spudguy> Gateway
[16:41] <usr13_> Spudguy: ping av.com    #Can you ping that?
[16:42] <jimini> hey there, I guess I have a problem with gnome keyring. I use Xubuntu and one or two months ago, I only had to enter one of my pgp-keys once, afterwards it was "unlocked" for a couple of hours. now I have to enter the pgp-key with every e-mail I write. since I do not know, where to start my search for the reason, I hope someone can help me :)
[16:42] <Spudguy> NOpe.
[16:42] <Spudguy> Unknown host.
[16:42] <usr13_> Spudguy: Then you did not really add 8.8.8.8 as your nameserver, or you need to restart the network or reconnect or something ...
[16:43] <usr13_> Spudguy: host av.com   #What does that say?
[16:43] <Spudguy> timed out
[16:44] <usr13_> Spudguy: All I can tell you is that you are not resolving domain names.  Don't know why, but you could just add nameserver 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolv.conf for temporary fix.
[16:44] <lattera> strange... my program compiles fine with libcheck if compiled with clang, but not with gcc
[16:44] <usr13_> Spudguy: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #What does it give for nameserver?
[16:45] <iptable> GeekDude, how should I know what is your 10.0.0.1? that's your infrastructure
[16:46] <Spudguy> 127.0.1.1
[16:46] <usr13_> Spudguy: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[16:46] <usr13_> Spudguy: And add line at the bottom:  nameserver 8.8.8.8
[16:47] <GeekDude> iptable: I was trying to ask spudguy what was so special at 10.0.0.1 that let it *just* it load. 10.0.0.1 doesn't appear to be a valid ip for me
[16:47] <usr13_> or just change  127.0.0.1 to 8.8.8.8
[16:47] <dekuevo> охуеть
[16:47] <Spudguy> leave search as it is?
[16:47] <usr13_> GeekDude: That is apparently his router, (and you would not see it).
[16:47] <iptable> GeekDude, 10.0.0.0/8 and 192.168.0.0/16 are LAN IPs (internal IPs). it depends on what your router is set to.
[16:48] <usr13_> Spudguy: 10.0.0.1 *is* your gateway router's IP.  Right?
[16:48] <Spudguy> Yup
[16:48] <GeekDude> iptable: ah
[16:48] <iptable> Spudguy, if you cannot ping 8.8.8.8, then DNS is NOT the issue
[16:48] <buer> Hi, i have a problem with X starting i have working xorg.conf and when i start i from shell it works but when machine boot its defaults to xoorg.conf.failsafe which shows balnk screen ... i pulled out nvidia graphics and trying to run form onboard intel grapohics
[16:48] <GeekDude> usr13_: My gateway is 192.168.1.1, iirc. Unless I am misunderstanding
[16:48] <usr13_> Spudguy: Ok, so can you ping av.com now?
[16:49] <Spudguy> Nope. Nor 8.8.8.8
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> GeekDude  enter 192.168.1.1 in your browser's address bar, what does that show
[16:49] <usr13_> Spudguy: Oh I missed that.  YOu can *not* ping 8.8.8.8
[16:49] <iptable> usr13_, Spudguy said he cannot ping 8.8.8.8. It means there is no internet connection. It's not DNS issue.
[16:49] <GeekDude> MonkeyDust: that's the router's config page
[16:49] <iptable> Spudguy, do you have internet connection on your router?
[16:49] <usr13_> iptable: Yes, you are correct.
[16:49] <Spudguy> Yeah, I'm talking to you from a windows 8 laptop on it, and my phone/tablet are on it too
[16:49] <lattera> what's the proper way to link in libcheck?
[16:49] <usr13_> Spudguy: DNS is *not* your issue.
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> GeekDude  great, that's a start, now what does the internet status say
[16:50] <Spudguy> Oh okay\
[16:50] <iptable> Spudguy, can you access the router's config page using the web browser, by going to 10.0.0.1 from that affected machine?
[16:50] <usr13_> Spudguy: So what is the default gateway on that machine?
[16:50] <GeekDude> MonkeyDust: I'm not having network issues, I was trying to ask Spudguy about his
[16:50] <Spudguy> 10.0.0.1
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> GeekDude  oh, so i'm addressing the wrong guy?
[16:51] <buer> any ideas why ubuntu starts with xorg.conf.failsafe when i have working xorg.conf
[16:51] <iptable> Spudguy, ok, first things first. on the window machine: ipconfig - tell me what the IP and GW are as well as network.
[16:51] <GeekDude> MonkeyDust: Spudguy is the guy with the problem. He can't ping/connect to anything but his router (10.0.0.1), which I didn't know was his router until just a second ago when usr13 and iptabl explained it to me
[16:52] <iptable> Spudguy, then tell me what the details are on the linux machine (execute: "ifconfig" and "ip route ls")
[16:52] <Spudguy> gateway on windows is 10.0.0.1, IP is 10.0.0.2
[16:52] <iptable> Spudguy, and on the linux machine?
[16:53] <usr13_> Spudguy: ipconfig /all #On the connected MS Windows machine, see what IP info it has.
[16:53] <iptable> Spudguy, I need the IP using ifconfig and the "default route" bit from ip route ls.
[16:53] <oscalation> whats the proper term for Unity? Is it referred to as a desktop enviroment, or is it a suite of tools?
[16:53] <oscalation> "range of technolgies "
[16:53] <gcbirzan> Abomination?
[16:53] <buer> so true
[16:54] <iptable> oscalation, "User Interface", or otherwise "shell interface"
[16:54] <GeekDude> Only-decent-suite-that-supports-oculus-rift?
[16:54] <Gotolei> running 12.04, and gnome-settings-daemon's update last night killed the volume media keys
[16:54] <usr13_> Spudguy: Do you have the Ubuntu PC set to a static IP or is it doing DHCP and getting IP info from the router?
[16:54] <oscalation> iptable: ty
[16:54] <Spudguy> IP info? Sorry, not sure what you mean? On the windows machine, what do you need other than the IP/Gateway?
[16:54] <n0x_42> Is it possible to set the owner of created files as a group?
[16:54] <Spudguy> Ubuntu is on DHCP
[16:55] <iptable> Spudguy, I don't need to know if it's on DHCP or not. I need to know what IP and GW are reported using the following commands on: 1. windows: ifconfig, 2. linux: ifconfig; ip route ls
[16:55] <usr13_> Spudguy: IP info = IP address, default gateway, and DNS IP's  (It's what you get when a PC queries a router)
[16:55] <jonnyw2k-work> oscalation, Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment developed by Canonical Ltd.
[16:55] <oscalation> any ubuntu plannet bloggers around?
[16:55] <iptable> Spudguy, dhcp will still get IP you know.
[16:56] <iptable> jonnyw2k-work, nice, you found the same wikipedia article that I did :P
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> wikipedia knows all
[16:56] <Spudguy> ifconfig ipv4 is 10.0.0.14 and ip route ls = 10.0.0.1
[16:57] <usr13_> iptable: He already said that he can ping the router (10.0.0.1) and that it is listed as his default gw.  I'm thinking he has netfilter issue
[16:58] <usr13_> Spudguy: iptables -L
[16:58] <iptable> usr13_, just because one can ping 10.0.0.1 doesn't mean he is on the same network. there are some terrible netmask issues one can have.
[16:58] <iptable> usr13_, it's either iptables OR IPv6
[16:59] <Spudguy> usr13_: iptables -L is blank
[16:59] <usr13_> Spudguy: ifconfig
[16:59] <iptable> Spudguy, ok, so you got IP on same network. You can ping the router. Can you connect to the router's web interface using browser by going to 10.0.0.1?
[16:59] <Spudguy> Yes, I can iptable
[17:00] <iptable> Spudguy, so you can connect all the way to the router, but can't reach after the router, interesting. Any VPN setup, anything like that?
[17:00] <Spudguy> Not that I'm aware of. I mean my phone and tablet connected automatically.
[17:00] <usr13_> Spudguy: Tell us what IP address the Ubuntu machine is using and what it's netmask is
[17:00] <Spudguy> Both android btw
[17:00] <iptable> Spudguy, also, please check if you got IPv6 using ifconfig
[17:00] <gcbirzan> Why would that matter?
[17:01] <usr13_> Spudguy: ifconfig |grep Bcast:
[17:01] <iptable> gcbirzan, IPv6? because I've seem machines stop working too many times with IPv6 - because router thinks it can do IPv6 but cannot and messes stuff up
[17:01] <gcbirzan> iptable: This doesn't matter when you try to ping IPs.
[17:02] <iptable> Spudguy, are you sure you don't have any MAC/IP filtering configured in your router? looks like some added security since you last added a new device.
[17:02] <Spudguy> inet addr: 10.0.0.14 Bcast: 10.0.0.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0
[17:02] <iptable> gcbirzan, I think you will find it can. I know, rediculous as it seems, it can.
[17:02] <gcbirzan> iptable: I think you'll find that it can't.
[17:03] <iptable> gcbirzan, tell that to the issues I have seen. disabling IPv6 and suddenly being able to ping is things I have seen.
[17:03] <Voyage> hi
[17:03] <gcbirzan> Probably domain names.
[17:03] <iptable> Spudguy, so, iptables rules are empty, IP configuration is OK, you cannot ping 8.8.8.8
[17:03] <iptable> gcbirzan, I'm not that daft...
[17:03] <Spudguy> Oooh, I just saw on the router config ipv6 is ticket as enabled.
[17:03] <Spudguy> and LAN is set to stateless
[17:03] <usr13_> Spudguy: ping -c3 212.82.102.24
[17:04] <Voyage> is it possible to make my /home encrypted and other sudoers cant get into it. BUT the applications can (like apache and other s. e.g apache may want to look for web pages in my /home)
[17:04] <Voyage> ?
[17:04] <iptable> Spudguy, what usr13_ said. does that work?
[17:04] <gcbirzan> Also, do a traceroute -n 8.8.8.8, Spudguy
[17:04] <Spudguy> Nope.
[17:04] <usr13_> Spudguy: Can you ping 212.82.102.24  or 4.2.2.2 ?
[17:04] <Spudguy> Well, 3 send 100% loss
[17:04] <usr13_> Spudguy: But you *can* ping 10.0.0.1  Right?
[17:04] <Spudguy> 4.2.2.2 loss
[17:05] <Spudguy> Yes
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> Spudguy  is it a wireless connection?
[17:05] <Spudguy> Yes
[17:05] <iptable> Spudguy, so you can access LAN but not WAN from your machine. It's either 1. IPv6 weirdness, or 2. some kind of MAC/IP filtering you got enabled o nthe router
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> Spudguy  have you tried with cable, too?
[17:05] <gcbirzan> Spudguy: Also, try to ping 10.0.0.14 from your windows machine.
[17:05] <usr13_> Spudguy: firefox 10.0.0.1  #And look at the router's configuration menu. There must be something the router is doing to block your access.
[17:05] <Spudguy> And traceroute for some reason needs an apt-get, which I can't do atm
[17:06] <iptable> Spudguy, and what MonkeyDust said. try cable for troubleshooting
[17:06] <usr13_> iptable is correct
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> Spudguy  methinks you have a wifi problem, not an internet problem
[17:06] <gcbirzan> how can...
[17:06] <Spudguy> I can ping the ubuntu from windows
[17:07] <gcbirzan> Spudguy: Also, in route -n, is the interface for the default route the correct one?
[17:07] <iptable> Spudguy, so, can you access internet on ubuntu using cable?
[17:07] <usr13_> iptable: You must be right, it's either IPv6 weirdness or (more likely)> the router is blocking him.
[17:07] <gcbirzan> Spudguy: (i.e. the same as for 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0)
[17:07] <Spudguy> I can't test cable right now. :(
[17:07] <Spudguy> I wish I could.
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> Spudguy  most probably, a cable would solve your connection problem
[17:08] <Spudguy> On the router config, there's no MAC filtering.
[17:08] <iptable> usr13_, yes. Spudguy check the router config for wireless. make sure there is no MAC filtering etc.
[17:08] <Spudguy> And I can do all this from the ubuntu - check the router config etc.
[17:08] <iptable> Spudguy, and no VLANs and network isolation, etc
[17:08] <usr13_> Spudguy: Try wired connection...
[17:08] <iptable> Spudguy, silly question, have you tried turning it off and on again (both router and ubuntu)?
[17:09] <gcbirzan> Spudguy: Also, a cheap traceroute is ping -t 1 8.8.8.8, look at the IP that says TTL exceede, then use -t 2 and so on, until it stops replying
[17:09] <Spudguy> Not the router, but yes Ubuntu. I figure the router doesn't need reloading as I can get a connection
[17:10] <iptable> Spudguy, how about "the router software is so bad it has stopped routing new machines to internet"?
[17:10] <usr13_> Spudguy: Power cycle the router, I've seen unexplained problems go away after re-starting the router, (in which case, it's probably starting to give out on you and you shoul probably shop for another one).
[17:10] <Spudguy> WiFi has no MAC filter, and the security is WPA/WPA2-PSK-TKIP/AES
[17:10] <Spudguy> Okay, I'll reboot it now. Back in a few
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Spudguy  and somehow find a cable
[17:11] <tmmunq> "the router software is so bad it has stopped routing new machines to internet" if you get this a lot, its time to get a router that can handle your network
[17:11] <iptable> usr13_, I wouldn't blame the ubuntu box. it looks like 100% an issue with the router. I mean, ubuntu can connect to the router no problem.
[17:11] <iptable> Spudguy, uhm, question, can you ping 8.8.8.8 from the windows machine?
[17:12] <iptable> Spudguy, your router might be blocking internet pings...
[17:12] <usr13_> iptable: Yep
[17:12] <jwash> hi everyone, i'm making a live cd of my installation, i'm chrooted into it, i'm having a fstab error, has anyone dealt with this before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039505/
[17:12] <iptable> usr13_, OR, possibly, his router doesn't allow internet PING and all our tests we invalid... haha.
[17:12] <usr13_> true
[17:13] <iptable> usr13_, should have done instead: dig@8.8.8.8 google.com
[17:13] <Voyage> ?
[17:13] <Voyage> is it possible to make my /home encrypted and other sudoers cant get into it. BUT the applications can (like apache and other s. e.g apache may want to look for web pages in my /home)
[17:13] <iptable> usr13_, altough his ISP might be blocking direct DNS.
[17:13] <GeekDude> iptable: Why is that even an option? ICMP is the most benevolent force I can concieve
[17:13] <usr13_> iptable: Also a possibility
[17:13] <iptable> GeekDude, https://www.google.co.uk/#q=icmp+flood
[17:14] <iptable> usr13_, should test by asking him to access IP using browser.
[17:14] <usr13_> iptable: Some routers will block DNS port to inside and limit you to only using the router's caching nameserver.
[17:14] <gcbirzan> iptable: wow, really
[17:14] <gcbirzan> welcome to the 90s?
[17:14] <spudguy> Back. No change.
[17:14] <iptable> usr13_, in case I'm not here, he can try accessing the browser once his router reboots: http://213.123.191.234 - should say "Access Denied". If it does, it IS a DNS issue
[17:14] <GeekDude> spudguy: What's your router's model?
[17:14] <gcbirzan> people who block ICMP are either incompetent, or just want to hide their network topology
[17:15] <gcbirzan> spudguy: Did you see my suggestion about using ping?
[17:15] <usr13_> spudguy: iptable  has some other tests for you.
[17:15] <iptable> gcbirzan, welcome to 21st century consumers ripped off with cheap £5 routers
[17:15] <lmat> Oh, just read that GnuTLS flaw... neato! ...am I being hacked now ?
[17:15] <gcbirzan> iptable: Um, you said that the reason it's blocked is ICMP flood, not shit routers
[17:15]  * lmat watches top for the rest of the day
[17:15] <iptable> spudguy, open the web browser, and try to go to http://213.123.191.234
[17:15] <gcbirzan> lmat: not sure anyone actually uses gnutls :P
[17:15] <spudguy> on it
[17:16] <GeekDude> iptable: The solution to ICMP ddos is to disable icmp by default?
[17:16] <iptable> gcbirzan, no, that that's why they block ICMP. To avoid floods. some do anyways.
[17:16] <spudguy> Unable to connect to the internet
[17:16] <gcbirzan> if you're using ICMP to DDoS you're doing it wrong :P
[17:16] <GeekDude> That seems unlikely to be an issue
[17:16] <iptable> spudguy, actually says that when you type that in to your browser
[17:16] <iptable> ?
[17:16] <usr13_> spudguy: firefox 213.123.191.234 ?
[17:16] <GeekDude> more likely to just be annoying for anyone trying to test a net connection
[17:17] <spudguy> Chrome just says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET"
[17:17] <spudguy> I'll check FF
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> spudguy  find a cable, then try or ask again
[17:17] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: yeah. also, ping -R is awesome
[17:17] <iptable> spudguy, don't use chrome for testing. use firefox
[17:17] <iptable> spudguy, and in main address bar type in: http://213.123.191.234
[17:17] <usr13_> spudguy: Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from any of the other PCs?
[17:17] <iptable> spudguy, and tell us if it says "Access Denied"
[17:18] <usr13_> spudguy: Yea, do as iptable said
[17:18] <spudguy> Yes on Ping from windows, still loading on Firefox
[17:18] <zetter> what's a good webcam recording application for linux mint?
[17:18] <spudguy> Just an infinite 'connecting' screen
[17:19] <GeekDude> gcbirzan: google dns blocks pings with the -R option :P
[17:19] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: I know
[17:19] <usr13_> spudguy: I would just type it from terminal:  firefox 213.123.191.234
[17:19] <spudguy> kk
[17:19] <babyeater> uic-cs
[17:19] <babyeater> oops
[17:19] <babyeater> sorry all
[17:19] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: But it's still useful
[17:19] <spudguy> Uuuh, "(process
[17:20] <iptable> spudguy, so, you do have only LAN connection from ubuntu. No internet. Ok, and all the route and IP is correct.
[17:20] <usr13_> spudguy: So ff will not connect to 213.123.191.234  ?
[17:20] <spudguy> Nope. No connection.
[17:20] <GeekDude> gcbirzan: So it's like a combined tracroute and ping? or am I misunderstanding
[17:20] <iptable> usr13_, no, I would see it. I'm sitting next to 213.123.191.234 :D
[17:20] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: It is, but, it also shows you return path.
[17:21] <GeekDude> wow, the path seems to change a lot
[17:21] <GeekDude> at least between me and a certain site
[17:21] <iptable> spudguy, so, start playing with router settings. looks like 1. maybe authentication method not supported on ubuntu, 2. some kind of blocking/filtering on WiFi, 3. some kind of network isolation on WiFi, 4. IPv6 hell
[17:21] <usr13_> spudguy: What is your outside IP?
[17:21] <Mqrius> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/ Assuming I need to be extremely paranoid because there's money involved: is it safe to boot my ubuntu, and just run updates via the gui? I don't need to do any manual actions to check GPG signatures or anything right?
[17:22] <spudguy> 71.232.159.3
[17:22] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: Try ping -R www.myisp.whatever, it's very very useful to debug stuff in your own network
[17:22] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: I mean, when you're the ISP :P
[17:22] <iptable> spudguy, go to www.linuxtoolz.net from a working machine and it shows you your IP at the bottom of the ppage
[17:22] <GeekDude> gcbirzan: I'm not usually an ISP
[17:22] <gcbirzan> pfft.
[17:23] <usr13_> spudguy: You might try a traceroute to the outside IP
[17:23] <iptable> spudguy, from ubuntu, ping http://213.123.191.234/
[17:23] <iptable> sorry
[17:23] <iptable> spudguy, from ubuntu, ping 213.123.191.234
[17:23] <iptable> spudguy, I got tcpdump set. I'll tell you if anything gets out from that ubuntu
[17:23] <spudguy> 2 secs, for some reason the router had my Ubuntu on reserved, changed to DHCP
[17:24] <gcbirzan> GeekDude: anyway, one day it might come in handy, since there's no other way to get the reverse path without control of the other node
[17:24] <usr13_> spudguy: or traceroute to your ISPs site
[17:24] <iptable> usr13_, hold on, I had to put my router interface in promisc mode to do tcpdump :D
[17:24] <spudguy> No ping to 213.123.191.234
[17:24] <GeekDude> gcbirzan: thanks
[17:24] <iptable> spudguy, try ping from windows machine
[17:25] <usr13_> spudguy: YOu could do a traceroute to anything you want from another PC and then find the last hop before it goes outside your ISPs routers and try one of those inside ones.
[17:25] <spudguy> Timed out from Win
[17:25] <iptable> spudguy, yes, I'm blocking your pings. Just wanted to see if you will hit my firewall
[17:26] <iptable> spudguy, and you didn't. at all. check your external IP
[17:26] <iptable> spudguy, but anyways, it's some weird router config. I told you all the options. It's not ubuntu issue in itself.
[17:28] <iptable> usr13_, spudguy fried internet connection altogether?
[17:28] <usr13_> iptable: YOu are correct, *if* the default route on his other PCs is the same as the Ubuntu PC and they can get out and Ubuntu cant, (it has to be router blocking him).
[17:28] <iptable> usr13_, yes. well, he has confirmed that the GW on all machines is 10.0.0.1. I'm just not convinced he did indeed check it...
[17:28] <usr13_> Yea, spundguy is gone.
[17:29] <oscalation> anyone here that writes on ubuntu plannet?
[17:29] <iptable> usr13_, as soon as I told him his external IP is not his external IP?
[17:29] <usr13_> When he gets back from the store with his new router, I'm pretty sure he will have it fixed ;)
[17:29] <Spudguy0> Hello?
[17:29] <usr13_> iptable: What?
[17:29] <Spudguy0> My windows now can't connect to the irc
[17:30] <Spudguy0> On my phone haha
[17:30] <usr13_> iptable: I did not look to see where he was from....
[17:30] <iptable> Spudguy0, ok, fix your router.
[17:30] <usr13_> iptable: Did you do a whois on him?
[17:30] <iptable> Spudguy0, reset router config to defaults and configure WiFi password again and try to connect?
[17:30] <Spudguy0> Did you dos me?!
[17:30] <iptable> Spudguy0, no. I don't do that.
[17:31] <iptable> Spudguy0, my network is too precious
[17:31] <tsar> Greetings. I've loaded Ubuntu 13.10 from usb (with unetbootin) and calling fsck with any parameters gives this output: "fsck from util-linux 2.20.1", how can I check my disks?
[17:31] <Spudguy0> Okay, so start am I doing now?
[17:31] <Spudguy0> So what*
[17:32] <usr13_> Spudguy0: You might just try truning off encryption
[17:32] <iptable> tsar, install util-linux package
[17:32] <Spudguy0> Turn off AES for the wifi?
[17:33] <usr13_> Spudguy0: Yea, I just thought you might try truning off the encryption, see if that does anything.
[17:33] <iptable> Spudguy0, yes. or maybe try turning off everything, router reset to defaults and try again. it IS something to do with the router. and disable IPv6 on it for testing as well.
[17:33] <tsar> iptable, it is installed by default
[17:34] <iptable> tsar, fsck /dev/sda1 ?
[17:34] <iptable> tsar, you need to tell it which partition it's checking
[17:34] <Spudguy1> Still not working
[17:34] <usr13_> Spudguy0: Just dissable security for the WiFi and see if that does anything.
[17:35] <JoeSomebody> how do i make firefox open link in a libreoffoce spreadsheet?
[17:35] <JoeSomebody> it should open by a click but nope
[17:35] <usr13_> Spudguy1: Well, do as iptable says and set the router to default and start over.  BTW, what is the make and model of your router?
[17:35] <JoeSomebody> ctrl-click still nothing
[17:35] <lmat> gcbirzan: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/
[17:36] <Spudguy> Ubuntu won't even connect to it now.
[17:36] <Spudguy> Nothing will.
[17:36] <Spudguy> Fuck.
[17:37] <iptable> Spudguy, won't connect to what now nothing will?
[17:37] <usr13_> Spudguy1: You have to tell it to not use encryption.
[17:37] <iptable> Spudguy, did you like, reset to factory defaults or something? when doing changes, you need to "forget network" on the clients and reconnect from start.
[17:37] <iptable> Spudguy, you did try to do that on ubuntu too?
[17:37] <usr13_> Spudguy1: You dissabled securty on WiFi. Right?
[17:38] <JoeSomebody> how do i make firefox open link in a libreoffoce spreadsheet? it should open by a click but nope, ctrl-click also no .  is there settings set to a bad browser maybe? is firefox default?
[17:38] <gcbirzan> lmat: Sure, but is anyone actually using gnutls?
[17:38] <iptable> JoeSomebody, shift+click or alt+click checked?
[17:38] <iptable> JoeSomebody, google "open link from libreoffice spreadsheet"?
[17:38] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: Set firefox as your default browser
[17:39] <tsar> iptable, thank you. And how can I make it run some full test? It finishes in a moment.
[17:39] <Spudguy> Connected, but same issues.
[17:39] <gcbirzan> okay, wget. who uses wget :P
[17:39] <Spudguy> Putting security back on.
[17:39] <JoeSomebody> it just works in kde so yes i do not know how
[17:39] <hapxd> Hi , anyone here running apache on 13.10 , what do you also get funny errors if you do
[17:39] <hapxd> apache2 -V
[17:39] <hapxd> AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
[17:39] <hapxd> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[17:39] <hapxd> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[17:39] <iptable> tsar, that's it. it's not fat32 you know... it's ext filesystem
[17:42] <usr13_> Spudguy: You have a very wierd problem.  When did this happen?  (When did you notice it not connecting?)
[17:42] <Spudguy1> Back on the windows machine.
[17:42] <Spudguy1> No changes.
[17:42] <usr13_> Spudguy1 You have a very wierd problem.  When did this happen?  (When did you notice it not connecting?)
[17:43] <Spudguy1> This is a new network for my Ubuntu
[17:43] <usr13_> Spudguy1 "Back on the windows machine"?  What were you on before?
[17:43] <Spudguy1> I'm from the UK, had to make a last minute trip to the US yesterday
[17:43] <Spudguy1> My phone.
[17:43] <usr13_> Oh ok.
[17:44] <Spudguy1> The router is not listing the Ubuntu as an online device.
[17:44] <Spudguy1> Only my tablet and the windows laptop
[17:44] <jhutchins> Spudguy1: Might be something interesting in dmesg.
[17:45] <Spudguy1> However, I'm seeing this from my ubuntu, as I'm on the router config page using it
[17:45] <usr13_> Spudguy1: I wonder if it could be an IP address conflict.  If you have a MS Windows and a Linux machine on the same IP, the Linux one will give up and quit.
[17:46] <usr13_> Spudguy1: You might try a different IP address.
[17:46] <usr13_> Spudguy1: You can see your mac adress there, right?
[17:46] <iptable> Spudguy1, obviously, there is WiFi issue between your router and ubuntu. and it looks like your router doesn't like the ubuntu. could be the channels, 5Ghz vs 2.4Ghz, or some network isolation settings "most likely", or IPv6 vwhich you didn't disable still, etc.
[17:46] <usr13_> Spudguy1: Another thing you could try is spoofing the mac address to something else.
[17:47] <iptable> Spudguy1, as stated, reset router to factory defaults and try again. it's a cheap router issue.
[17:47] <Spudguy1> Okay, will do.
[17:47] <Spudguy1> Back after that.
[17:47] <usr13_> Spudguy1: I would try anothe IP address and/or another MAC address.
[17:48] <dalit> i installed lxde-desktop in ubuntu12.04 and removed it later. but the lubuntu startup screen  always opens up when i boot.
[17:48] <dalit> what 2 do?
[17:49] <adamcunnington> How can I integrate terminal into my desktop?
[17:49] <dalit> i just want ubuntu start up (that pinkish startup)
[17:49] <usr13_> dalit: Well, it's just that the screen has changed, not sure how to set it back, but it logs you into Unity again, right?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> dalit  paste this line in a terminal      sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[17:49] <subz3r0> dalit: same issue here ;) but had no time to research and fix it yet :)
[17:49] <iptable> dalit, "lubuntu startup screen"? you mean the wallpaper?
[17:50] <dalit> usr13 : right
[17:50] <subz3r0> dalit: also have some applications left on the system from lubuntu desktop :>
[17:51] <iptable> dalit, you mean login screen totally changed, or that the wallpaper changed but login screen still looks the same?
[17:51] <dalit> iptable : the to and fro motion of a bar which tells us to wait when booting
[17:51] <iptable> dalit, there is a bar which tells us to wait when booting?
[17:52] <iptable> dalit, at which point? you mean BEFORE the login screen?
[17:52] <dalit> MonkeyDust : choosed /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth as my selection
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> you guys are so helpful
[17:52] <usr13_> dalit: YOu might try:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> open calc link in firefox
[17:52] <dalit> iptable : actually idont login , its automatic
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> JoeSomebody  that'w why this is a help channel
[17:53] <dalit> MonkeyDust : will it do?
[17:53] <dalit> i will try
[17:53] <iptable> dalit, ok, so the boot screen BEFORE login altogether. the one that on "windows" would show a windows logo while booting?
[17:53] <iptable> dalit, that's plymouth
[17:53] <daftykins> damn it, i thought this was a HINDER channel
[17:53] <usr13_> dalit: I don't know if it will change the login screen, but it might:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> dalit  simply paste rhe line i suggested
[17:53] <adamcunnington> Is it possible to integrate my terminal into my desktop so i can just type on my home screen and interact?
[17:53] <JoeSomebody> for some it is a help channel
[17:53] <dalit> iptable : exactly , now you r getting it
[17:54] <iptable> dalit, you need to reconfigure plymouth to different animation
[17:54] <JoeSomebody> seems a bit unhelpful for ME
[17:54] <dalit> MonkeyDust : ya i did so and selected /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth as my choice
[17:54] <iptable> dalit, http://askubuntu.com/questions/201129/how-to-change-boot-animation and also http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html
[17:55] <iptable> dalit, and also http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-change-boot-screen-theme-ubuntu-13-04/
[17:55] <dalit> iptable : thanks 4 searching
[17:55] <iptable> dalit, altogether, to apply plymouth changes, you need to regenerate initramfs, with sudo update-initramfs -u ;)
[17:55] <dalit> MonkeyDust : u hit the bulls eye
[17:56] <dalit> iptable : did it. now rebooting
[17:57] <dalit> guys , if i dont reply after this <as i m rebooting> , consider it a sucess. ThankUall :)
[17:57] <iptable> I wish I could have a nice booting screen... plymouth won't work well with my nvidia drivers :D So I settled to full-on boot display.
[17:57] <iptable> dalit, no probs
[17:59] <someone_> hello ubuntu
[17:59] <daftykins> hi!
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> dalit  glad i could help
[18:00] <quenode> how to play .wmv on 13.10@amd64 ?  ubuntu-restricted-extra does no have w64codecs ?
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> quenode  Totem plays .wmv files here
[18:01] <someone_> I'm trying to get collectd set up to collect some stats from computers on my home network, and have run into a snag with the version in the repo, it's old. Mostly this isn't a big deal except that it seams that newer versions can't talk to it. If I build it from source, I lose all the init scripts and things end up all over the place. Is there an easy way to drop in a newer version but keep the structure of the repo package?
[18:01] <quenode> MonkeyDust: Nop it does not
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> quenode  any error messages?
[18:03] <quenode> MonkeyDust: you need w32codecs or w64codecs mediaubuntu no more
[18:03] <Spudguy> IT WORLED
[18:03] <Spudguy> Worked, even.
[18:04] <Spudguy> I'm now on my Ubuntu laptop
[18:04] <Spudguy> :D
[18:04] <gordonjcp> Spudguy: rockin'
[18:04] <Spudguy> Thank you so much for all your help
[18:04] <iptable> Spudguy, that's after a full router factory reset?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Spudguy  what was the trick?
[18:05] <venzen> hi people, i'm probably the 100th person to ask but is there any update on the gnuTLS vulnerability...
[18:05] <Spudguy> Yup. I reset the router to factory, logged in via the Windows, reconfigured the SSID and Password to exactly as they were and then came back to my laptop and tried to load google.com
[18:05] <Spudguy> It worked
[18:05] <quenode> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039786/
[18:05] <Spudguy> So, what exactly was the issue?
[18:05] <Spudguy> Just a shitty router?
[18:06] <iptable> Spudguy, yes. shitty router.
[18:06] <Spudguy> Fucking Comcast.
[18:06] <iptable> Spudguy, glad we could assist ;)
[18:06] <Spudguy> Thanks again.
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> quenode  my guess: it's not a .wmv fiel, even if it has that extension
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> file*
[18:07]  * iptable goes to have a life
[18:07] <Spudguy> Right, now I can get on with some CW
[18:07] <Spudguy> Thank you guys so much again, you were awesome. Thanks for being patient.
[18:08] <iptable> no probs. have fun
[18:08] <quenode> MonkeyDust:Could be but , sound works
[18:08] <EminentDomain> hey guys...  how do I get my network folders to show up on the sidebar when i go to open a file
[18:08] <EminentDomain> you know how it lists all the locations on the left... I cant seem to find network locations
[18:09] <quenode> EminentDomain: What are u using (ctrl+l)
[18:09] <EminentDomain> what do you mean what am I using?
[18:09] <EminentDomain> ubuntu 12.04
[18:09] <quenode> EminentDomain: nautilus ?
[18:09] <EminentDomain> oh yes nautilus
[18:09] <EminentDomain> the thing is if i go to places it shows up
[18:09] <EminentDomain> but when i use other applications (like the backup) I cant select a network location
[18:10] <EminentDomain> DejaDup
[18:10] <EminentDomain> or whatever it's called
[18:10] <EminentDomain> I am wanting to copy files from a smb share which I have mounted in Nautilus to a webdav share, but I cant select the SMB share
[18:10] <EminentDomain> and i'm not exactly sure where it is mounted
[18:11] <quenode> EminentDomain: It just uses link smb://server/location - for wins. Maybe you can't copy from one webdav to smb volume.
[18:12] <someone_> EminentDomain: anything here? ~/.cache/gvfs
[18:12] <EminentDomain> quenode i was trying to copy using nautilus and it was working until it stopped
[18:12] <EminentDomain> it crashed
[18:12] <dgarstang> I'm trying to use debootstrap. I rsynced archive.ubuntu.com, and pointed to it with file:/// but it's complaining it can't download the files. Best I can tell, the directory structure is the same.
[18:14] <quenode> EminentDomain: try running nautilus from console so we can see what is the problem.
[18:14] <EminentDomain> guenode how do i do that?
[18:15] <EminentDomain> also it may take a while to generate the issue
[18:15] <EminentDomain> it copied 50GB before it errored out
[18:15] <quenode> EminentDomain: gnome-terminal -> nautilus
[18:15] <dgarstang> I'm trying to use debootstrap. I rsynced archive.ubuntu.com, and pointed to it with file:/// but it's complaining it can't download the files. Best I can tell, the directory structure is the same.
[18:16] <EminentDomain> quenode.. ok.. i did that and all it did was closed the terminal window
[18:16] <EminentDomain> oh no it didnt
[18:16] <EminentDomain> its still there
[18:16] <quenode> dgarstang: what is the error ?
[18:16] <EminentDomain> but it just brought me back to username@host:~$
[18:16] <husnainlatif> hi, where can i see the changelog for ubuntu 14.04 beta ?
[18:18] <dgarstang> quenode: it errors out on every package starting with 'Retrieving adduser' then 'Couldn't download package adduser (ver 3.113ubuntu2 arc all)'
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> husnainlatif  any "what's new" can tell you that
[18:18] <dgarstang> quenode: running with debootstrap --verbose --variant=buildd --arch amd64 precise /var/chroot/precise file:///data/mirror/ubuntu/
[18:20] <quenode> dgarstang: did you run it again
[18:20] <dgarstang> quenode: I've run it a bunch of times
[18:20] <dgarstang> quenode: ran the rsync a few more times to make sure it was complete.
[18:21] <quenode> dgarstang: and u always have the same error
[18:21] <dgarstang> quenode: Yah
[18:21] <dgarstang> quenode: looking at strace here
[18:21] <EminentDomain> quenode i got the error actually
[18:22] <EminentDomain> it says There was an error copying the file into davs//user@webdav.opendrive.com/xbmc/xbmc/movies
[18:22] <pratz> Hello guys
[18:22] <daftykins> hi
[18:22] <EminentDomain> if i click on "Show more details" I get Error in Stream Protocol: end of stream
[18:23] <EminentDomain> then i got an error from gvfsd-dav
[18:23] <pratz> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, so I have python 2.7. I want to install python 3.3, but primary should be python 2.7 and secondary should be python 3.3
[18:23] <pratz> Is there any good article to do this ?
[18:23] <EminentDomain> that says "Your Computer does not havce enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers
[18:23] <EminentDomain> i have 4GB of RAM
[18:23] <bekks> EminentDomain: And how many free memory and free space do you have?
[18:24] <quenode> EminentDomain: Well I have 16GB and some times don't have enough :(
[18:24] <EminentDomain> well i'm only copying files
[18:24] <bekks> EminentDomain: That doesnt answer my question. :)
[18:24] <EminentDomain> bekks well the cloud storage is unlimited so hard say
[18:24] <EminentDomain> lol
[18:24] <EminentDomain> but i'm moving 2.5TB
[18:24] <bekks> EminentDomain: The cloud storage is irrelevant.
[18:25] <quenode> EminentDomain: free space :)
[18:25] <EminentDomain> well thats where i'm copying to
[18:25] <bekks> EminentDomain: How much free space and free memoty do you have on YOUR computer?
[18:25] <EminentDomain> why is that relevant?
[18:25] <bekks> Or at the computer where that error appears.
[18:25] <EminentDomain> i have 40GB of HD
[18:25] <quenode> EminentDomain: it's is
[18:25] <bekks> 40GB free?
[18:25] <EminentDomain> 38.78GB free
[18:25] <quenode> EminentDomain: your computers is copy files
[18:26] <bekks> On which filesystem?
[18:26] <quenode> EminentDomain: copying
[18:26] <EminentDomain> on my local hard drive
[18:26] <bekks> On which filesystem?
[18:26] <quenode> EminentDomain: df -h
[18:26] <quenode> EminentDomain: in terminal
[18:26] <EminentDomain> /dev/sda1
[18:26] <EminentDomain> doesnt say the format i assume ext4
[18:26] <bekks>  /dev/sda1 is a partition. Which filesystem has 38GB free?
[18:27] <bekks> Pastebin df -h please.
[18:27] <EminentDomain> !pastebin
[18:27] <EminentDomain> hold a sec
[18:27] <quenode> EminentDomain: !pastebin
[18:28] <EminentDomain> i know
[18:28] <EminentDomain> i got it
[18:28] <EminentDomain> already typed that
[18:28] <EminentDomain> :-P
[18:28] <EminentDomain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039907/
[18:28] <EminentDomain> thats the paste
[18:28] <EminentDomain> 36G free
[18:28] <EminentDomain> i was incorrect
[18:28] <EminentDomain> but i'm not copying from that drive or to that drive
[18:28] <bekks> EminentDomain: Dont use enter as a punctuation sign. And pastebin "free -m" too.
[18:28] <quenode> EminentDomain: we know that
[18:28] <EminentDomain> i'm copying from a smb share to a cloud storage
[18:29] <EminentDomain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039919/
[18:29] <quenode> EminentDomain:what is the largest file you are copying ?
[18:30] <EminentDomain> hmmm
[18:30] <jwash> hi everyone, i'm making a live cd of my installation, i'm chrooted into it, i'm having a fstab error, has anyone dealt with this before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039505/
[18:30] <EminentDomain> maybe 8GB
[18:30] <EminentDomain> no larger than that
[18:30] <quenode> EminentDomain: try only that
[18:30] <EminentDomain> give me one sec
[18:31] <Spudguy> I have a red triangle with an exclamation point through it right now, it's telling me my update info is out of date, but "show updates" just tells me my software is up to date?
[18:32] <bekks> Spudguy: run in a terminal: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:32] <Spudguy> ty
[18:32] <quenode> jwash: what you fstab says ?
[18:33] <onefox> hello is there a way i can log the raw output from /dev/usb/lp0 (a printer) to a file ? or redirect it to lpr -oraw ?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Spudguy: did the command clear the error?
[18:34] <Spudguy> Yup. Thank you. :)
[18:34] <abaday> how to I save my aliases?
[18:34] <lmat> abaday: Stick them in ~/.bashrc ?
[18:34] <Spudguy> I'm a complete linux noob, but I'm stuck with it for 2 weeks. I think I'm going to learn a lot.
[18:34] <lmat> onefox: What do you mean by "the output of"? That lp0 is a device file, right ?
[18:34] <lmat> onefox: It has no output ?
[18:34] <jwash> qenode: fstab is blank
[18:34] <jwash> qenode: didn't get copiede
[18:35] <jwash> should i use the fstab from my hd installation?
[18:35] <onefox> lmat yes its a printer but its not working on this port have to use lpr to print the data
[18:35] <lmat> onefox: check /var/log :)  and dmesg ?
[18:35] <jwash> will that mess up my live cd?
[18:35] <lmat> onefox: So you don't care about the logging, you just want it to work ?
[18:36] <lmat> onefox: You're right, monitoring the logging is an excellent first step :)
[18:36] <Spudguy> Another quick one, how do I save an SFTP folder to my explorer side-bar?
[18:36] <Spudguy> Sorry if I have the wrong terminology, I'm a windows scrub
[18:36] <lmat> onefox: I would check in /var/log/dmesg and the like.
[18:36] <lmat> Spudguy: heh :) replace "explorer" with "unity" and you may be on the right track ^_^
[18:37] <Spudguy> Oh wow
[18:37] <Spudguy> Ctrl D. Sick.
[18:37] <Spudguy> :D
[18:37] <onefox> lmat yes i the first place,  the big picture problem is that i have software who can only give me serial and raw output but the usb driver don't except this ... i can't print link echo "test" > /dev/usb/lp0
[18:37] <xdgfedrg> hi, please can anyone confirm, that this link works? http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent download does not start to me, so i need to confirm its a problem on my end of the line
[18:37] <Spudguy> Yeah, just learned about Unity bookmarks. Now I just wish I was getting more than 160kbs on my transfers haha
[18:37] <lmat> onefox: Do you have any way to print to the printer ? (lpr?)
[18:37] <Spudguy> I think that's a server issue though, it's always slow in the US but great in the UK.
[18:38] <lmat> onefox: Oh, I don't think you're supposed to be able to do that!
[18:38] <lmat> onefox: You need to    lpr -P printername  (I don't know the format of printername, perhaps /dev/usb/lp0 would work ?)
[18:38] <onefox> lmat i can print with lpr -p NAME FILE
[18:38] <lmat> onefox: Oh. Sounds like you're set? ^_^
[18:38] <snek> @xdgfedrg testing torrent now
[18:38] <snek> @xdgfedrg works just fine, coming in right away at 7MB/s
[18:39] <xdgfedrg> snek: thx
[18:39] <lmat> onefox: If you really like '<' or '|', you could     lpr -P printername < file; or   cat file | lpr -P printername   :D
[18:39] <onefox> lmat that worked but the software can only print to /dev/usb/lp0 or COM1 COM3 LPT1
[18:40] <snek> if you have torrent troubles try enabling UPNP in your router and in your torrent client
[18:40] <Spudguy> There's a little email icon in the top bar, clicking it just says "Avaliable" and shit like that, how can I either remove this or have it notify me of Gmail emails?
[18:40] <lmat> onefox: OOOOHHH....
[18:40] <onefox> lmat so i cant decide where the software stream goes but it has to go to lpr i think ...
[18:40] <lmat> onefox: So, what if you put a symlink at /dev/usb/lp0 ? (don't try it yet!)
[18:41] <lmat> onefox: Could you convince the software to go to /dev/usb/lp1 ? ^_^
[18:41] <onefox> lmat my first try would it be to caputre the output from the software in a file and than print that file with lpr
[18:41] <onefox> lmat sure
[18:41] <lmat> onefox: I'm guessing the software expects a device file to be there. Even if you
[18:41] <lmat> onefox: Yeah, that's probably the right way to go ^_^ Okay, back to where you started.
[18:42] <lmat> onefox: So, you need to put a PDF printer at  /dev/usb/lp0
[18:42] <onefox> lmat on dev usb lp0 is the real printer ^ i have /dev/usb where i can send the raw data from the software to
[18:43] <lmat> onefox: So if we were to install a pdf printer to  /dev/usb/lp1, this would take care of you ?
[18:43] <onefox> lmat dev/usb/lp1 is free i mean lp0 is the printer
[18:43] <dgarstang> Is there a way I can get a subset of archive.ubuntu.com... just enough for debootstrap without downloading 10 billion gigs of stuff first?
[18:43] <onefox> lmat i could try is there an easy way to do so ?
[18:43] <onefox> lmat let me google ;)
[18:44] <lmat> onefox: I'm looking, too ^_^
[18:44] <onefox> lmat thanks
[18:44] <lmat> onefox: Looks like a standard approach is to convert your file to PS then convert to PDF. But this isn't what you want.
[18:47] <Ontological> Is there a channel I can join to help install Ubuntu on Macbook?
[18:47] <lmat> onefox: hmm, not seeing anything particularly promising...
[18:47] <onefox> lmat yes me too :/
[18:48] <lmat> onefox: nature calls!
[18:50] <n0x_42> I'm trying to set up acl on ubuntu. What exactly do I need to add to /etc/fstab?
[18:50] <bekks> !acl | n0x_42
[18:50] <bekks> hmm. No factoid.
[18:51] <n0x_42> I mean, I was using the ubuntu guide but wasn't getting the right results
[18:51] <bekks> n0x_42: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[18:52] <netameta__> how do i check which OS linux is installed on a machine i logged in through ssh anyone ?
[18:52] <n0x_42> Right, when I remount I get an error saying line 10 in /tec/fstab is bad.
[18:52] <Ontological> netameta__: uname -a
[18:52] <Mic_King> hi
[18:53] <bekks> n0x_42: Then show uss line 10.
[18:53] <bekks> *us
[18:53] <mao2> Is there a way for me to add a new disk to my system and for it to appear as logically part of the same partition?
[18:53] <Ontological> netameta__: lsb_release -a
[18:53] <owlbread> raid?
[18:53] <bekks> mao2: No. You can use LVM.
[18:53] <netameta__> Thanks ontological
[18:53] <bekks> owlbread: Nope.
[18:53] <netameta__> Both helped
[18:53] <n0x_42> UUID=XXXX / ext4 defaults,acl errors=remount-ro 0 1
[18:54] <Mic_King> i get a boot failure message on start up with the message insert system disk and press enter
[18:54] <n0x_42> I added defualts,acl to the original file.
[18:54] <mao2> bekks: does LVM work if one disk is already in use? It's a home media server, and I want to extend the space
[18:54] <bekks> n0x_42: There is a , missing after acl
[18:54] <bekks> mao2: LVM only works for that usecase if you are already using LVM.
[18:55] <bekks> n0x_42: The guid told you to add "acl" to the options, not to add "defaults,acl " before errors=remount-ro
[18:55] <Ontological> mao2: You need to de-activate LVM before adding a PV to it.
[18:56] <mao2> bekks: I'm already using LVM for full disk encryption (per the install disk). I should be able to "extend" the LVM to the new disk?
[18:56] <Ontological> mao2: Using the recovery boot option is handy for this, as it shouldn't mount your LVMs
[18:56] <bekks> mao2: I never dealt with encrypted LVM, sorry.
[18:56] <n0x_42> Ok, the example was throwing me off, thanks.
[18:56] <Ontological> mao2: Yes, that's the point, but not necessarily while the LVM is live.  Have you seen system-config-lvm package?
[18:57] <Ontological> mao2: But, might I recommend you have to LVM's?  One for your system and a separate one for data
[18:57] <Ontological> That way, you can easily modify the media LVM by simply unmounting all of the volumes
[18:57] <Ontological> you have two LVMs*
[18:58] <Ontological> lvm_system w. lvm_system_crypt and lvm_media with lvm_media_crypt.  make sense, mao2 ?
[18:59] <Ontological> mao2: I recommend the splitting of your LVMs.  It will allow you to use system-config-lvm, which will really make LVM easier for you.
[18:59] <mao2> Ontological: So resizing the one LVM, and then putting the other half of this disk (with the data) on the new LVM?
[19:00] <Ontological> If the remaining data is large enough to make it worthwhile, yes.  Otherwise, It'd probably best to keep that one drive entirely your system drive.  I say this because in the future, you can then remove the media lvm hdds with much ease, but you might not need that capability.
[19:01] <Ontological> mao2: ^
[19:01] <Ontological> So, 1TB system drive, 2TB media drive.  6mo from now, you purchase another 2TB drive and add it (very simply) to the media lvm mao2
[19:02] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I elected to encrypt my home folder on a recent ubuntu install. I assume all sub-folders and files will be encrypted as well. Is this true?
[19:02] <Ontological> But, mao2, you're more than welcome to do what you said, if that's what makes the most sense to you
[19:02] <Ontological> gmachine_24: /home/USERNAME is encrypted recursively for the USERNAME, yes.
[19:02] <mao2> Ontological: Hm, good point. So I should create a new LVM on the new PV, and then rsync over the data from LVM1 to LVM2
[19:03] <Ontological> You can rsync or use dd (if you're brave and want to do it how people would probably recommend)
[19:03] <Ontological> mao2: ^
[19:03] <mustmodify> When I use ssh, sometimes server names are autocompleted. Sometimes they are not. Why?
[19:03] <Voyage> is it possible to make my /home encrypted and other sudoers cant get into it. BUT the applications can (like apache and other s. e.g apache may want to look for web pages in my /home)
[19:03] <Ontological> mustmodify: Because you have things in your ~/.ssh/config file
[19:03] <mao2> Ontological: does dd work at the file level? I only want to move some of the LVM
[19:04] <Ontological> dd would not allow you to copy files, only.  It would be used to copy an entire partition or entire drive onto another device
[19:04] <tmmunq> Voyage: that user would always need to be logged in so the files are decrypted
[19:04] <mao2> Ontological: ok, thanks
[19:04] <mustmodify> Ontological: wc -l ~/.ssh/config wc: /home/jw/.ssh/config: No such file or directory
[19:04] <Ontological> but you could then expand that partition on the new drive, mao2
[19:04] <gmachine_24> Ontological: thanks........
[19:04] <Ontological> mao2: If you're familiar with rsync, you'll be at less of a chance of losing your data if you just use rsync
[19:05] <Ontological> mustmodify: Could it be ssh-agent, then?
[19:05] <mao2> Ontological: just not sure the fastest way to move my media files onto the new drive. I want to leave the rest of the data on the system lvm
[19:06] <Ontological> If the files are part of your root filesystem, then rsync is a good option once you've set the second lvm up
[19:06] <Voyage> tmmunq,  if the user is logged in. how and why can apache see his files?
[19:06] <l3dx> I just installed cinnamon following this guide, and as seen on the screenshots the mint-logo is used. anyone using cinnamon and/or knows how to get a moro ubuntu look? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander.html
[19:07] <Voyage> tmmunq,  I mean, apache is a user like any other user in ubuntu. why it can get into some ones elses /home
[19:07] <mustmodify> Ontological: How would I know?
[19:07] <gmachine_24> mao2 I came in late here but I use rsync to back up files/folders that I add to frequently . . via a cron job; I've given up on clonezilla as I always have a difficult time figuring out which drive is the source and which is the target - unless I disconnect all the other drives and that's a real pain
[19:08] <bekks> Voyage: Because the permissions on /home/USERNAME arent 0700.
[19:08] <Ontological> l3dx: Iono why, but Linux Mint has a channel #Linuxmint-help and #cinnamon on irc.spotchat.org
[19:08] <Ontological> mustmodify: I don't use ssh-agent and don't know if it's capable of doing what you're saying, but it's my best guess.
[19:09] <netameta__> To make a backup of entier /var/www folder would it be better to tar or zip ?
[19:09] <bekks> netameta__: Doesnt matter actually.
[19:09] <mustmodify> Ontological: OK it's a lead, better than nothing. :)
[19:09] <mustmodify> Thanks.
[19:09] <netameta__> alrighty
[19:09] <netameta__> Thanks bekks
[19:09] <adamcunnington> How can I integrate terminal into my desktop so that I can interact with it straight off my home screen? I've seen others do it, is it easy?
[19:09] <Voyage> bekks,  right. so any other user can see my  /home too. when I am logged in?
[19:10] <bekks> Voyage: Yes. Thats the default setting.
[19:10] <gmachine_24> adamcunnington, sorry to be dense, but what is it you want to do? add a terminal short-cut to your desktop?
[19:11] <adamcunnington> gmachine_24: no, actually have terminal embedded in my desktop. Imagine logging in and being able to type straight away, with terminal output integrated into desktop background (if that makes sense)
[19:11] <Voyage> bekks,  ok. I have amazon ec2. I can get in by a key that I got from the website. can I create another user that just can login by his password, rather than the key?
[19:11] <bekks> Voyage: I dont know anything about EC2. If you have a full root account, you cant create a new user.
[19:12] <gcbirzan> Can someone explain to me why linux-image* doesn't recommend or suggest, at the very least, linux-image-extra*?
[19:12] <Voyage> bekks,  secondly, if the other user is a sudoer, and a dir in my /home is 0700 permissioned. can he , in any way, get into that dir?
[19:12] <bekks> Voyage: Sure.
[19:12] <Voyage> If you have a full root account, you _cant _create a new user. ?
[19:12] <bekks> Voyage: sudo -i and having the root privileges, he can get anywhere.
[19:13] <bekks> Voyage: If you have a full root acount, you can create a new user.
[19:13] <netameta__> Whats wrong with zip -qr /var/smalldir ? am i missing something ?
[19:13] <bekks> netameta__: You are missing the zip file name.
[19:13] <gmachine_24> adamcunnington: perhaps this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[19:14] <Voyage> bekks,  hm. so he cant get in the encrypted dir for sure. ok how can I encrypt a dir. rather my /home. so that it only decrypts for me when I am logged in?
[19:14] <netameta__> Like : zip -qr /var/smalldir somefileName.zip ?
[19:14] <Voyage> bekks,  is there a way/
[19:14] <bekks> Voyage: If the encrypted user is logged in, he (the second user having sudo) can get into the first users data.
[19:15] <Voyage> bekks,  ok. I understand that.
[19:15] <bekks> Voyage: ecryptfs is what de/encrypts a /home when the user logs in.
[19:15] <Voyage> bekks,  it can also do that to a normal dir?
[19:16] <bekks> Voyage: ecryptfs doesnt make any sense without encryption.
[19:16] <Voyage> bekks,  it can also do that to a normal dir? like /home/me/somedir/someotherdir
[19:16] <bekks> Voyage: ecryptfs doesnt make any sense without encryption.
[19:16] <Keanu73> errm
[19:16] <Keanu73> how to reset my ubuntu password
[19:17] <Voyage> bekks,  didnt got you?
[19:17] <bekks> And manually, you can setup ecryptfs for any directory you want.
[19:17] <bekks> (in your home).
[19:17] <Voyage> oh ok
[19:17] <Keanu73> ??
[19:18] <Voyage> bekks,  I had experience with truecrypt. that decrypts the files on runtime.  but if ubuntu / ecryptfs decrypts ALL the files in /home on login. thats a bad idea. isnt it?
[19:18] <Voyage> runtime == when they are accessed
[19:18] <bekks> Voyage: I dont care about encryption, honestly.
[19:18] <Keanu73> bekks: ahem
[19:18] <Keanu73> be at attention please
[19:19]  * Keanu73 sighs and thinks of how to reset his ubuntu password
[19:19]  * Keanu73 doesn't know how to reset his ubuntu password
[19:19] <surfergirl> I cannot ssh from newly built ubuntu and centos systems into a RHEL5 server though it works for existing systems, anyone know what needs to be done?  (I already confirmed there is nothing in hosts.allow nor hosts.deny on the server.  There is nothing in the firewall nor network ACLs blocking this either.)
[19:19] <gcbirzan> What happens when you try
[19:19] <bekks> surfergirl: Define "I cannot" please.
[19:20] <Keanu73> excuse me, does anyone know how to reset my ubuntu password
[19:21] <netameta__> when i type stat -filename, the size is in what measurment units ?
[19:21] <gcbirzan> netameta__: Bytes?
[19:21] <gcbirzan> Though, I assume you mean stat filename
[19:21] <Voyage> bekks,  ok
[19:21] <netameta__> so devid by 8 to get MBs yea ?
[19:21] <surfergirl> Keanu73: did you try passwd?
[19:21] <bekks> netameta__: No.
[19:21] <Keanu73> huh
[19:21] <gcbirzan> netameta__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix
[19:22] <bekks> netameta__: Divide by 1024*1024 to get MB.
[19:22] <Keanu73> is passwd a utility?
[19:22] <gcbirzan> No, divide by 1000*1000 to get MB.
[19:22] <gcbirzan> Damn infidels
[19:22] <Keanu73> I can't access utilities when I'm locked out of my ubuntu account
[19:22] <netameta__> Thanks bekks and gcbrizan for the refference will read
[19:22] <Keanu73> tell me the way of the boot thing
[19:22] <Keanu73> I forgot it
[19:22] <gcbirzan> I use init=/bin/bash
[19:23] <Voyage> how to add user?  the better way I mean.  adduser or useradd
[19:23] <gcbirzan> adduser
[19:23] <dino82> They're the same
[19:23] <Keanu73> gcbirzan: have a answer to my question?
[19:23] <gcbirzan> Keanu73: I just did. You add init=/bin/bash to your kernel command line, and it should let you in
[19:24] <Keanu73> erm
[19:24] <bekks> gcbirzan: Damn infidel. Ubuntu isnt using the metric system, but it is using 1024 units. Check yourself with stat filename and bc.
[19:24] <Keanu73> but what's the boot key to access the boot menu?
[19:24] <Keanu73> and where is the kernel command line
[19:25] <gcbirzan> bekks: stat is using bytes, so no idea what you're talking about. Also, MB is, by definition, 1000*1000 bytes, regardless of what Ubuntu might think.
[19:25] <Gotolei> is there a reason certain processes refuse to be started as jobs?  gedit &  detaches from the terminal properly, but  mousepad &  doesn't
[19:25] <Keanu73> gcbirzan: errm just tell me the proper way
[19:25] <Gotolei> seems kinda random which ones do and don't behave
[19:25] <Keanu73> with the boot menu
[19:26] <gcbirzan> Gotolei: Try looking into nohup.
[19:26] <dino82> Keanu this is a great question for google, will probably find everything you need on some superuser or stackoverflow post
[19:27] <gcbirzan> Also, damnit, ifupdown is really retarded in ubuntu.
[19:27] <Keanu73> ah I found the article I found before
[19:27] <Keanu73> but how 2 boot into recovery mode
[19:27] <Gotolei> hm, still not doing what i want it to do
[19:27] <gcbirzan> How does one change the MTU with this? using mtu blah in the interface in /etc/network/interfaces seems not to work
[19:28] <_root_> I need help on http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/117776/fvwm-howto-swallow
[19:28] <Gotolei> i'm trying to find a command that runs in the background, so i can use it for kupfer
[19:28] <Gotolei> so far synapse is the only one that actually runs commands without opening a terminal
[19:28] <gcbirzan> oh, I get it.
[19:28] <gcbirzan> static is bad, actually :P
[19:29] <gcbirzan> Or, rather, manual...
[19:29] <surfergirl> bekks:  when I try to ssh I get either 3 password prompts followed by "Connection closed by" on some systems or simply the latter on most systems.
[19:29] <bekks> surfergirl: Then your server most likely do not support password based authentication.
[19:30] <bekks> surfergirl: Instead, it uses keybased auth, most likely.
[19:30] <cyford> is there a command to map ubuntu one drives  on a system without ubuntu one installed?
[19:30] <surfergirl> bekks: The sshd_config file has PasswordAuthentication yes
[19:30] <sjmikem> Why does my terminal not come to the foreground when I try to alt-tab to it?
[19:30] <gcbirzan> If there's no password authentication, you don't get a password prompt
[19:30] <surfergirl> bekks: In any event, I cannot change the ssh server settings, I have to modify the clients only
[19:31] <gcbirzan> surfergirl: Check /var/log/auth on the server
[19:32] <surfergirl> gcbirzan: no file /var/log/auth
[19:34] <gcbirzan> surfergirl: Aha! It's /var/log/secure
[19:34] <gcbirzan> Close enough :P
[19:36] <surfergirl> Okay :)
[19:38] <iburns> I have a foolish question. I'm installing digital signage that uses the latest version of Ubuntu. Because of the hardware I can't automatically detect the screen size, so it defaults to the wrong one.
[19:39] <Gotolei> nvm, kupfer has an execute command option which i guess works
[19:39] <Gotolei> idk why it's not default but eh
[19:40] <iburns> I'm trying to fix this by running a script using xrandr in cron but nothing seems to be happening, even though the script works when I run the command by itself.
[19:40] <netameta__> how can i list hidden files ? including .htaccess ..
[19:40] <Gotolei> ctrl+h
[19:41] <netameta__> though ssh
[19:41] <dino82> netameta__  ls -la
[19:41] <dino82> -a flag is 'all' files
[19:41] <netameta__> Thanks dino
[19:42] <gcbirzan> technically, it's -A
[19:42] <et09> my x server is just displaying "X Org X server (v) // Release date ..."
[19:42] <dino82> Yes, if you love the shift key, use -A
[19:42] <et09> but the computer is still responsive through SSH
[19:42] <et09> can i get it back up?
[19:42] <gcbirzan> dino82: caps lock!
[19:43] <dino82> Is CRUISE CONTROL for COOL
[19:44] <iburns> Can anyone help me with a cron issue? I have a .sh script which is supposed to run on startup, but while it writes a log file nothing else happens. The command works when used outside of cron
[19:44] <llutz> iburns: make sure you use full pathes in the script or adjust crons $PATH
[19:45] <et09> iburns: permissions?  output redirection?
[19:46] <iburns> The script is one line. It's supposed to change the screen resolution on startup, so I used xrandr --output VGA2 --mode 1024x768
[19:46] <iburns> output is redirected to the log file
[19:48] <gcbirzan> iburns: Try DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr blah
[19:50] <jack> your favorite mp3 player?
[19:51] <jack> irc client?
[19:51] <genii> !polls | jack
[19:52] <iburns> gcbirzan: didn't change anything
[19:54] <16WAAZAXX>  Hello, I'm having a problem with my fingerprint-reader on Ubuntu 13.10. The device is a 138a:0005 using vfs301. Both fprint_demo and fingerprint-gui claims that this device is supported, but it appears that they only can read my fingerprint one time during the enroll process. It doesn't matter how many times I swipe my finger, I can't pass step 2. Someone please can point me out one direction or any tips?
[19:56] <wafflejock> 16WAAZAXX: no idea but have you tried running the program from the terminal to see if it gives you any output
[19:56] <16WAAZAXX> wafflejock: yes, no output
[19:59] <wafflejock> iburns: it's a bit orthogonal to your current issue but if you haven't already I recommend checking out Screenly there's instructions to install on a minimal raspberry Pi wheezy image I'm sure it works elsewhere as well and has been pretty good about detecting screens for me
[20:00] <wafflejock> iburns: http://www.screenlyapp.com/ose.html
[20:03] <iburns> wafflejock: looks great, but can't. We've already paid to develop the signs in another system
[20:05] <wafflejock> iburns: understandable just figured I'd throw it out there since I've had some moderate success playing with it and am planning to pitch it for some displays
[20:13] <sudormrf> does anyone have any recommendations for an IPS package?
[20:17] <adamcunnington> how do i cd to a device directory?
[20:20] <iburns> I'm having some problems with Cron. I have a script which runs by itself, but doesn't when run from cron
[20:20] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, depends where the device is mounted, networkshare under /mnt/  and other devices usually under /media/, so cd /media & ls
[20:21] <wafflejock> iburns: does it use sudo?
[20:21] <iburns> no
[20:22] <iburns> wafflejock: no, it's just one line using xrandr
[20:22] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, good start to use terminal > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:22] <iburns> cron is running the script since the output is redirected to a logfile and I'm seeing the echo I put in
[20:23] <iburns> * * * * path/to/script > path/to/log
[20:24] <superkuh> Hi. Does anyone know of a guide to compiling the X stack (xorg-server most specifically) on Ubuntu and installing it?
[20:24] <wafflejock> iburns: http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/23.html
[20:24] <wafflejock> iburns: I'm not familiar with this issue but that looks like it might be the issue
[20:25] <adamcunnington> oh god, i've just done a terrible thing
[20:25] <adamcunnington> i just ran chmod -R u+rwX,go+rX,go-w /
[20:25] <wafflejock> oh no
[20:25] <adamcunnington> changed permissions of half of my system
[20:25] <adamcunnington> was thinking / would be my current directory
[20:25] <adamcunnington> what do?
[20:25] <rww> reinstall
[20:25] <adamcunnington> whiskey?
[20:25] <wafflejock> yeah
[20:25] <wafflejock> whiskey
[20:25] <wafflejock> haha sorry
[20:25] <adamcunnington> FUCK
[20:25] <OerHeks> without sudo?
[20:25] <adamcunnington> without sudo
[20:26] <adamcunnington> looked like it mostly was doing stuff so sys/ before i stopped it
[20:26] <hank6262> hello is there a way to choose extra programs to install at time of ubuntu install beynd whats included on the install media?
[20:26] <Caelum> my touchpad and keyboard keep freezing up and not responding
[20:26] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: yeah you're probably gonna need to backup and reinstall though, would start backing things up ASAP if necessary
[20:26] <adamcunnington> wafflejock: oh goodness, i got lucky
[20:26] <Caelum> like almost every second
[20:26] <OerHeks> hank6262, besides updates and some mediacodecs, no
[20:26] <adamcunnington> wafflejock: "Operation denied on everything"
[20:26] <Pici> adamcunnington: without sudo it shouldn't have done anything.
[20:27] <wafflejock> oh well that's good
[20:27] <adamcunnington> yea, i got lucky, thank goodness
[20:27] <OerHeks> hank6262, not without a preseeding file
[20:27] <wafflejock> Caelum: USB or built in?
[20:28] <hank6262> ok cool because im gonna install ubuntu from an usb hd to a couple computers and wanted it to install some software at that time without having to go to the app store and find the program
[20:28] <adamcunnington> Nevertheless, my chmod command isn't working
[20:28] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: you must own the files to chmod or have to use sudo, and if you do be very careful :)
[20:28] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040481/ can anyone take a look? i want to 755 dirs and 644 files recursively
[20:28] <Caelum> wafflejock: builtin
[20:28] <sudormrf> does anyone have any recommendations for an IPS package?
[20:29] <sudormrf> I was thinking of using Snort, but if anyone else has any better recommendations, please let me know!
[20:29] <Caelum> wafflejock: like one second it responds and the next it doesn't
[20:29] <Pici> adamcunnington: this is an NTFS mounted partition?
[20:29] <hank6262> also does anyone know if the new jersey casios with the geo locator plguins work with firefox or chrome in ubuntu linux to play the games?
[20:29] <adamcunnington> Pici: yea
[20:29] <adamcunnington> Pici: does that change things?
[20:30] <Pici> adamcunnington: you should specify different options in either fstab or using a different mount command if this is temporary.
[20:30] <adamcunnington> Pici: it's permenant
[20:30] <adamcunnington> Pici: it's currently acting as my media server until i get monies together!"
[20:30] <adamcunnington> Pici: need my media server software to be able to detect the folders which it currently can't
[20:30] <wafflejock> Caelum: not sure you can usually lspci to see the specific built-in hardware and then probe more on the particular parts and the issue you're encountering
[20:31] <wafflejock> Caelum: if it's both the keyboard and mouse though I kinda wonder if it's really X or something else locking up
[20:31] <Pici> adamcunnington: you'll want to append the dir_mode=0755,file_mode=0644 options onto that device's option line in /etc/fstab
[20:31] <superkuh> Hi. Does anyone know of a guide to configuration of and compilation of the X stack (xorg-server most specifically) on Ubuntu?
[20:31] <adamcunnington> Pici: sorry, can you explain, i don't know what that means
[20:31] <wafflejock> Caelum: you can use a terminal Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see that keyboard continues to respond consistently to narrow it down some
[20:32] <wafflejock> Caelum: Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to X
[20:32] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: Pici :: "/media/Seagate Expansion Drive" -> escape the spaces in the name ???
[20:33] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: how?
[20:33] <adamcunnington> Pici: this command; [Device] [Mount Point] [File System Type] [Options]?
[20:34] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: Best practice is not to use spaces to start with, else /040 (??) to deal with the space. In linux a space is a delimeter.
[20:34] <Pici> adamcunnington: This is a sample fstab line from a samba/cifs share  I have mounted on a server here: https://gist.github.com/bnrubin/10cb82d6954e1e3355c7
[20:35] <adamcunnington> Bashing-om: so i'm to type /040 every time there should be a space?
[20:35] <wafflejock> superkuh: you might be better off trying one of the devel channels https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[20:35] <adamcunnington> Pici: forgive me, is this a terminal command, or a line that goes in a file that is saved in etc/fstab.d/?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: yeah - to best I recall, there are other menas to deal with the spaces, however.
[20:35] <Pici> adamcunnington: it is a modification you would need to make to /etc/fstab on the line for your device that is likely already there.
[20:36] <Pici> personally I prefer creating mount points without any spaces
[20:36] <superkuh> wafflejock, thanks.
[20:36] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: nenas.means
[20:36] <wafflejock> superkuh: yup good luck I'm sure that'll be an adventure
[20:36] <superkuh> Yeah. I know.
[20:36] <reaga> im trying to copy a large file from my flash drive and paste onto my main drive , but the paste option is greyed out. why?
[20:36] <reaga> i dont understand why its greyed out
[20:36] <llutz> Bashing-om: adamcunnington only in /etc/fstab you need to replace spaces with \040, on cli you use "\ "  or "path with spaces"
[20:36] <reaga> im new to ubuntu
[20:37] <wafflejock> reaga: you probably don' t have write permission to the folder
[20:37] <reaga> i see...
[20:37] <adamcunnington> llutz: ok thanks
[20:37] <adamcunnington> Pici: this looks comlex, don't understand the syntax and/or parameters
[20:37] <wafflejock> reaga: you can use Ctrl+L to change location in most of the GUI file explorers then navigate to ~
[20:37] <usr13_> adamcunnington: I use dashes instead of spaces in file names and directories, makes things easier in the long run. Like: Seagate-Expansion-Drive
[20:37] <wafflejock> reaga: ~ is a shortcut to your home folder for me /home/shaun/ you'll have write permissions there
[20:38] <sudormrf> so it looks like snort is being billed as an IPS and an IDS.  is this the recommended software package?
[20:38] <adamcunnington> usr13_: i should probably just rename it to something decent anyway
[20:38] <Pici> adamcunnington: Can you pastebin the contents of your fstab? I can take a look and modify it so that it will do what you want.
[20:38] <Bashing-om>  llutz Thanks for that - I avoid "spaces" personally, and have limited experience with "escaping" them .
[20:38] <wafflejock> reaga: if you want to know more about permissions check out, chmod, chown, and ls -al commands which let you modify permissions, change owner ship, and list folders/files with permission info
[20:39] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Yea, just rename it.  And I usually put my mount points in the /home/dir (just a little easier and /or more orderly to me)
[20:39] <usr13_> adamcunnington: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #And send us the URL
[20:39] <adamcunnington> usr13_: can i just rename with mv?
[20:39] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Yes
[20:39] <adamcunnington> usr13_: i haven't built /etc/fstab yet, i don't understand it
[20:40] <usr13_> adamcunnington: It has already ben built for you.  YOu only need to edit it and make any additions you want.
[20:40] <llutz> sudormrf: snort is GPL and in the repos, where did you see something about billing?
[20:40] <genii> The only usually confusing thing about fstab is the two numbers at the end
[20:40] <usr13_> adamcunnington: So show us what you have so far,  pastebinit /etc/fstab  #And send us the URL that gets gernerated.
[20:41] <sudormrf> llutz: not billed as in cost, billed as in advertised as.
[20:41] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen-Understanding fstab .
[20:41] <adamcunnington> usr13_: can't move, permission denied
[20:41] <adamcunnington> mv /media/Seagate\ Expansion\ Drive /media/ADAM-Media
[20:41] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: yeah since it's mounted without giving others permission you'd need to sudo it I believe
[20:41] <usr13_> adamcunnington: (That is one reason why I make my mount points in /home/dir)
[20:41] <Pici> not while mounted.
[20:42] <adamcunnington> how do i unmount it?
[20:42] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: umount
[20:42] <adamcunnington> need sudo?
[20:42] <usr13_> adamcunnington: And, if it is mounted now, not a good idea to mv it.
[20:42] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: maybe.
[20:42] <adamcunnington> eugh command unmount not found
[20:42] <wafflejock> umount
[20:42] <wafflejock> no n
[20:42] <sudormrf> exactly
[20:42] <wafflejock> it's goofy
[20:42] <Pici> adamcunnington: its umount, not unmount
[20:42] <adamcunnington> oh, weird
[20:42] <adamcunnington> that's stupid
[20:43] <usr13_> adamcunnington: umount /media/Seagate\ Expansion\ Drive
[20:43] <sudormrf> not stupid.
[20:43] <adamcunnington> unmount is a word, umount isn't!
[20:43] <wafflejock> gotta keep you on your toes I guess... dunno perhaps there's a good reason
[20:43] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Well, you can change it if you want, we will leave it as it is.
[20:43] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: that is true, but there are reasons that these things were done.
[20:44] <adamcunnington> but once it's unmounted, i can no longer change name because it doesn't exist?!
[20:44] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: you can change the mount point.
[20:44] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: yeah you just want to unmount it then make a new folder to mount it
[20:44] <wafflejock> with no spaces in it
[20:44] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Correct, (another reason to do mount points in /home/dir)
[20:44] <adamcunnington> i come from windows so this idea of choosing where to mount something is totally new
[20:45] <wafflejock> that'll make your life easier we thinks
[20:45] <adamcunnington> so is it normal in linux to mount an external device within home/ ?
[20:45] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Any where you want, (it is up to you).
[20:45] <wafflejock> eh it depends on your use case, for what you're doing it makes sense
[20:45] <wafflejock> most of the time I'm not dealing with mounting and unmounting things
[20:45] <wafflejock> but occasionally it's helpful to setup a few things manually like mapping network drives
[20:45] <adamcunnington> is it ok to be just inside /home/ or should it be deeper?
[20:46] <usr13_> adamcunnington: I just gave you a suggestion, (it is *my* preference).
[20:46] <usr13_> adamcunnington: /home/user-name-here
[20:46] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: whatever works for you.  you can literally mount it wherever you want to.
[20:46] <adamcunnington> usr13_: oh by dir, you meant the name of it?
[20:46] <Pici> adamcunnington: it is normal to put it into /media/ usr13_ has his own preferences.
[20:46] <sudormrf> what Pici said
[20:47] <usr13_> /home/adamcunnington  (where adamcunnington is really your user name and the name of your directory in /home/
[20:47] <OerHeks> avoid mounting in /dev/urandom/
[20:47] <adamcunnington> Pici: ok i'll leave it in media
[20:47] <adamcunnington> so to mount it, the first argument to the command is the filesystem, how do i know what that is?
[20:47] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: fstab is just a file that just helps to "automate" the process of doing the mount too just FYI so it's helpful if you want the config to stick
[20:48] <adamcunnington> wafflejock: well i think that is my end goal, so can i just add a line to that?
[20:48] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: fdisk -l I believe
[20:48] <usr13_> Pici: I shouldn't have said anything.  I'm sorry.  I guess I complicated the heck out of things.  But in the long run, he may learn a bit more from it.
[20:48] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: let me provide you with a link
[20:48] <adamcunnington> wafflejock: do i create my own file in etc/fstab.d/ if so what do i name it?
[20:48] <Bashing-om> adamcunnington: To confuse the mount issue more: https://help.ubuntu.comunity/Mount/ ...
[20:48] <usr13_> adamcunnington: just edit the oritinal one.
[20:49] <usr13_> *original*
[20:49] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: sorry not too familiar with the details there, I think it used to just be one file, I haven't seen the folder version
[20:49] <adamcunnington> hmm, didn't see a file in there, let me check again
[20:49] <wafflejock> seems in newer Ubuntu things are being split up more and more into folders though so that might be true
[20:49] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: http://kwilson.me.uk/blog/force-your-raspberry-pi-to-mount-an-external-usb-drive-every-time-it-starts-up/
[20:49] <adamcunnington> yea, no files in there
[20:49] <wafflejock> like X is split up a lot more now too I believe, and Apache config files are the same
[20:49] <sudormrf> that is for debian, but in this case it will work for you
[20:49] <sudormrf> you will need to know the file system your drive is formatted in
[20:50] <adamcunnington> oh fstab file
[20:50] <Pici> adamcunnington: like I said earlier, you should already have an entry for this in /etc/fstab
[20:50] <adamcunnington> i was looking at fstab.d
[20:50] <wafflejock> ah k so still have the fstab file... yeah not familiar with fstab.d
[20:51] <adamcunnington> probably this one mv /media/Seagate\ Expansion\ Drive /media/ADAM-Media
[20:51] <adamcunnington> woops
[20:51] <adamcunnington> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8
[20:51] <Pici> no, that looks like a floppy drive to me.
[20:51] <usr13_> adamcunnington: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #And send us the URL
[20:51] <wafflejock> yeah floppy drive
[20:52] <wafflejock> if you do a sudo fdisk -l you'll see all the disks available
[20:52] <adamcunnington> surely it would say /media/Seagate Expansion Drive though?
[20:52] <xubuntu959> hi so i was installing fglrx for my drivers, i have amd radeon x1200 which is not supported by linux, and after installing fglrx i reeboted system and i got black screen and just nothing happens. what should i do?
[20:52] <adamcunnington> /dev/sda2          501758  1953523711   976510977    5  Extended
[20:53] <adamcunnington> will paste
[20:53] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: not necessarily.
[20:53] <sudormrf> yes, please do
[20:53] <usr13_> !paste | adamcunnington
[20:53] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040606/
[20:53] <usr13_> !pastebinit | adamcunnington
[20:53] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: also do this pastebinit df
[20:53] <adamcunnington> ah, i will install pastebinit
[20:53] <wafflejock> adamcunnington: well there is a bit of complication in the fstab files too now, you can either specify with a device name like /dev/sda2 or you can specify with a UUID or block id, which you can get like blkid /dev/sda2
[20:54] <wafflejock> everything above is good though
[20:54] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: you shouldn't need to install it
[20:54] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: if you don't have a floppy drive you can comment out that line.
[20:54] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: says i need to
[20:54] <c_smith> adamcunnington, /dev/seagate wouldn't actually appear in UNIX and UNIX-like systems, they're all names like /dev/sdxZ or /dev/sr0, /dev/cd0 /dev/loop0, etc
[20:54] <adamcunnington> this is complex! will get my head around it soon hopefully
[20:54] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: which version of ubuntu is this?
[20:54] <adamcunnington> 12.04
[20:54] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: this is how we learn
[20:54] <sudormrf> don't get discouraged
[20:55] <adamcunnington> ok so just to recap my understanding, etc/fstab contains information about where stuff mounts, this is auto #-populated whenever you connect a new periphery / boot thing?
[20:55] <sudormrf> AFAIK pastebinit should be included in 12.04, but if it isn't just install it
[20:55] <c_smith> adamcunnington, the device names starts making more sense the more you work with them. :)
[20:55] <wafflejock> yeah mounting is a bit confusing on first go
[20:55] <adamcunnington> will my seagate expansion drive definitely be in that file, in which case i can just modify it or will i need to add it?
[20:55] <sudormrf> also, take a look at that link I provided, that should help you.
[20:56] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: helped a bit - trouble is when you're new, the docs are detailed but not aimed at people who are knew, they presuppose understanding
[20:56] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: unless you added the seagate drive to the fstab yourself it won't show up in there.
[20:56] <c_smith> adamcunnington, it'll be in a special device file that you need to mount.
[20:56] <adamcunnington> at least a certain level which i'm on the borderline of so i mostly find these docs unhelpful at this stage but i know with time, it'll come
[20:56] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: ok so do i need to find out exactly what it is called first?
[20:56] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: type df in a terminal window
[20:57] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040623/
[20:57] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: or sudo fdisk -l
[20:57] <adamcunnington> sudo fdisk -l was far too verbose, df seems nice ;)
[20:57] <usr13_> adamcunnington: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit   #and send URL
[20:58] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l.  it doesn't look like your drive is connected right now, but just to be sure.
[20:58] <adamcunnington> i don't think df listed it
[20:58] <adamcunnington> df only lists mounted stuff perhaps?
[20:58] <wafflejock> yup
[20:58] <wafflejock> disk usage
[20:58] <wafflejock> only shows stuff mounted I believe
[20:58] <sudormrf> wafflejock: forgot he unmounted :O
[20:58] <adamcunnington> what pastebinit command?
[20:59] <wafflejock> the man command is your friend here too :) I couldn't remember what df was for the life of me
[20:59] <adamcunnington> just pastebinit on it's own? will that output whole terminal? i shall clear first
[20:59] <adamcunnington> oh yea, keep forgetting about man
[20:59] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit   #and send URL
[20:59] <adamcunnington> taking ages
[20:59] <sudormrf> that's fine
[21:00] <adamcunnington> wait, important that |pastebinit at end?
[21:00] <sudormrf> yes
[21:00] <sudormrf> very
[21:00] <sudormrf> lol
[21:00] <adamcunnington> i just entered pastebinit after as separate line
[21:00] <adamcunnington> was probably waiting for input :P
[21:00] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Open a terminal, type:   "sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit"  (without quotes), hit Enter.  Send resulting URL (to us).
[21:00] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Ctrl-C
[21:00] <adamcunnington> i got 2 errors by the way; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040623/
[21:00] <adamcunnington> ignore that url
[21:00] <adamcunnington> Disk /dev/mapper/ADAM--PC--vg-root doesn't contain a valid partition table
[21:01] <adamcunnington> usr13_: yea i know ctrl c, one of the fisrt i learnt!
[21:01] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040636/ is output of disk
[21:01] <bekks> adamcunnington: Because that is a logical volume, not a disk.
[21:01] <adamcunnington> is that error about not containing a valid partition table because it is a LVM
[21:01] <adamcunnington> oh
[21:01] <adamcunnington> yes!
[21:01] <bekks> adamcunnington: Pastebin sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit as requested.
[21:01] <adamcunnington> holy hec, i guessed df right and now this!
[21:01] <adamcunnington> bekks: above
[21:02] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040636/
[21:03] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: how large is this seagate drive?
[21:03] <sudormrf> 2tb?
[21:03] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: yea
[21:04] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: it's not listed there?
[21:04] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: it is currently mounted to /dev/sdf
[21:04] <adamcunnington> oh yes it is; sdf1
[21:04] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: you mean set to mount there? it's not mounted right now
[21:04] <usr13_> sudormrf: That's not a mount point, it's a device name.
[21:04] <bekks> It isnt mounted to /dev/sdf, it is /dev/sdf - according to the other paste, it isnt mounted at all.
[21:04] <adamcunnington> let me have a go at this fstab line...
[21:04] <sudormrf> usr13_: err...yeah
[21:04] <sudormrf> haha
[21:04] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: wait
[21:05] <usr13_> adamcunnington: Your external drive is 2TB?
[21:05] <adamcunnington> is the number after not significant??
[21:05] <adamcunnington> usr13_: yea
[21:05] <adamcunnington> because it says /dev/sdfa1
[21:05] <adamcunnington> sdf1*
[21:05] <usr13_> /dev/sdf1  Yes
[21:05] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: the number indicates a partition number.
[21:06] <usr13_> adamcunnington: So you should mount it again and run blkid
[21:06] <adamcunnington> usr13_: what does that do? why can't i just set the mount point?
[21:06] <usr13_> (I think it has to be mounted, wait, maybe not)
[21:06] <sudormrf> may need sudo for blkid
[21:06] <bekks> You dont need to mount it for running sudo blkid
[21:06] <usr13_> adamcunnington: blkid  | pastebinit
[21:06] <bekks> blkid needs sudo.
[21:06] <sudormrf> yep
[21:06] <adamcunnington> what does it do?
[21:06] <sudormrf> usr13_: sudo blkid
[21:06] <usr13_> adamcunnington: sudo blkid  | pastebinit
[21:07] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: it lists UUIDs and device names
[21:07] <adamcunnington> ah cool
[21:07] <sudormrf> and file system types and what not
[21:07] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7040675/
[21:07] <sudormrf> don't just do this stuff because we ask you.  examine the output as well.  it can only help you to learn :)
[21:07] <adamcunnington> ah that output is useful
[21:08] <sudormrf> ok so the goal here is to mount this on the computer automatically?
[21:08] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: mount point as media/ADAM-PC
[21:08] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: the actual end goal is about chmod 755 and 644 files
[21:08] <adamcunnington> so..
[21:09] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: so have you already created the folder /media/ADAM-PC ?
[21:09] <OerHeks> chmod 755 and 644 files on a NTFS partition?
[21:09] <sudormrf> OerHeks: one thing at a time. lel.
[21:09] <bekks> OerHeks: NTFS does not understand linux permissions.
[21:10] <usr13_> adamcunnington: See my PM
[21:10] <Pici> sudormrf: I previously suggested to use the file_mode and dir_mode options in the fstab file.
[21:10] <sudormrf> Pici: yep
[21:10] <Pici> okay :)
[21:10] <OerHeks> bakks i know, but does adamcunnington know?
[21:10] <adamcunnington> usr13_: thanks
[21:10] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: first, do this "mkdir /media/ADAM-PC" without quotes from a command line.
[21:11] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: no, do i need to create it? will do that now
[21:11] <adamcunnington> done
[21:11] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: after you have done that.  from a command line type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[21:11] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: this will bring up a notepad with the fstab loaded
[21:12] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: at the bottom of this list type /dev/sdf1  /media/ADAM-PC  ntfs-3g  defaults 0 0
[21:12] <sudormrf> guys correct me if that is wrong
[21:13] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: save and exit the text editor.
[21:14] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: then from a command line type "sudo mount -a" without the quotes and let us know if you see any errors
[21:16] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: thanks but aren't I using the UUID instead of dev/sdf1 or does it not matter?
[21:16] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: also how does NTFS-3g differ from NTFS?
[21:17] <mk2mark> Hi guys
[21:17] <mk2mark> I'm trying to turn off frequency scaling on ubuntu
[21:17] <bekks> adamcunnington: ntfs-3g is a userland application that enables read/write access onto a NTFS filesystem.
[21:18] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: you can if you want.  in the case of USB devices I am not sure if it is any better than using /dev/sdf1.  It wouldn't hurt though.  if you want to use the UUID instead, replace /dev/sdf1 with UUID= and the UUID of your device.
[21:19] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: ok thanks, will leave as /dev/sdf1 more readable
[21:20] <adamcunnington> bekks: is it better to be explicit with filesystem than just use auto? i would be devestated if anything happened to the contents of this external hdd
[21:20] <bekks> adamcunnington: You have been clearly advised on what to do, dont you? :)
[21:20] <adamcunnington> bekks: yea i was just wondering if it's better to be explicit with filesystem or not
[21:20] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: use ntfs-3g as advised.
[21:21] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: ok
[21:21] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: being explicit is never bad.
[21:21] <sudormrf> well...not never.  but nearly never
[21:21] <adamcunnington> ntfs-3g not ntfs right?
[21:21] <sudormrf> correct
[21:21] <adamcunnington> ok thanks
[21:23] <Guest95978> hello
[21:24] <adamcunnington> ah so the device label still appears in devices list but can access files from media/ADAM-PC, that expected?
[21:24] <adamcunnington> no errors though, thanks very much!
[21:24] <DhammaMan> hi
[21:24] <sudormrf> yep, expected
[21:24] <adamcunnington> awesome thanks so much guys, solved my problem and learnt loads
[21:24] <adamcunnington> thanks
[21:25] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: /dev/sdf is the name of the device.  you are just telling the OS where you want to find that device by pointing it to /media/ADAM-PC
[21:26] <sudormrf> we are glad we could help out adam.
[21:28] <DhammaMan> Anybody notice the "capta" question on the Software Solution Center
[21:28] <DhammaMan> Is impossible to discern?
[21:28] <Pici> DhammaMan: can you rephrase that question?
[21:28] <DhammaMan> right
[21:28] <DhammaMan> lol
[21:28] <DhammaMan> sry
[21:29] <DhammaMan> I tried to rate software on the Software Center
[21:29] <DhammaMan> Need to be a member
[21:29] <DhammaMan> fine but
[21:29] <DhammaMan> When I tried to register, ...
[21:29] <bekks> !enter | DhammaMan
[21:30] <DhammaMan> Meow?
[21:30] <Pici> DhammaMan: you should be able to press the refresh button, it looks like two arrows circling each other on the CAPTCHA test to get a new image.
[21:30] <DhammaMan> NM
[21:30] <DhammaMan> I know. Tried 7 times.
[21:30] <DhammaMan> Just cant make out the grainy blures
[21:30] <DhammaMan> sp*
[21:31] <Pici> DhammaMan: theres an audio version if you prefer
[21:31] <sudormrf> so can anyone recommend a good IPS package?  I was looking at Snort.  it looks like snort is being advertised as an IDS/IPS.  Not sure which of the features it is more heavy on.
[21:31] <DhammaMan> Guess I am not human.
[21:31] <DhammaMan> YAY
[21:31] <DhammaMan> No audio option was available.
[21:32] <DhammaMan> sudomrf; sniffit
[21:32] <sudormrf> DhammaMan: checning :D
[21:32] <sudormrf> er...also checking
[21:33] <DhammaMan> lolol
[21:34] <houkouonchi-work> is there anyway to mirror the ubuntu keyserver?
[21:34] <reaga> i want to delete some files in my usr/bin directory, but the delet option isnt there
[21:34] <reaga> how do i delete stuff in ther
[21:34] <sudormrf> DhammaMan: sniffit looks kind of like wireshark
[21:35] <sudormrf> reaga: you need to be careful.
[21:35] <sudormrf> reaga: why not use something like apt-get remove? or are these files you placed there?
[21:36] <reaga> i just selected the files pressed delete nothing happens
[21:36] <reaga> i right click to select delte but its not there
[21:37] <sudormrf> reaga because you need to be a super user to do that
[21:37] <sudormrf> you can do it from the CLI
[21:37] <reaga> :/
[21:38] <sudormrf> reaga: first off, why are you trying to delete items from that folder and what exactly are you trying to delete?
[21:39] <earthian> Hello, I am having an error when starting slapd (Open LDAP daemon v2.4.31): "ldif_read_file: Permission denied for "/etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config.ldif". The owner of that file is openldap and permission is 664 but still permission denied. Also I copied the entire config and database from a working server (v2.4.23). Any ideas what could be wrong there with the permissions?
[21:39] <sudormrf> it seems like you aren't too sure about what you are doing and if you go deleting things at random you can break things.
[21:40] <bekks> sudormrf: Beware of being called names when not sharing his opinion - just happened to me in #vbox ;)
[21:40] <sudormrf> bekks: haha ok :D
[21:47] <unicornjedi> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.10. My computer does not wake up properly from suspend. When I wake up the computer all I get is a black screen. The monitors do detect a video input though.
[21:48] <DanaM> Hello, I am having a weird issue with DNS resolution. I am able to ping google.com from the command line but when going to google.com on firefox it tells me it cannot find the page
[21:49] <DanaM> I have verified the resolv.conf file and it has both google public dns servers
[21:49] <DanaM> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[21:49] <unicornjedi> DanaM, please join ##networking
[21:49] <tmmunq> firefox isnt getting proxied is it?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> DanaM: Does "wget google.com" work?
[21:49] <DanaM> no, i even installed chrome
[21:49] <DanaM> wget worked
[21:50] <tmmunq> addons?
[21:50] <DanaM> downloaded index.html
[21:50] <DanaM> none
[21:50] <tmmunq> extensions, whatever
[21:50] <basketball> how do i sync the caps lock light on laptop and external keyboard
[21:50] <tmmunq> strange
[21:50] <DanaM> very strange
[21:50] <DanaM> and its pissing me off
[21:51] <Jordan_U> DanaM: OK, you might want to clean that up then (rm index.html). Please post a screenshot of a browser trying to access google.com and failing.
[21:51] <Jordan_U> chiluk: With just "multiboot /boot/memtest86+_multiboot.bin", not "multiboot /boot/memtest86+_multiboot.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8" ?
[21:51] <DanaM> That's not gonna help very much, all it says is that it can't find the server at www.google.com
[21:52] <chiluk> Jordan_U, I see you are switching channels on me... and yes the multiboot memtest86+_multiboot.bin    seems to be broken
[21:52] <DanaM> when i navigate to the IP address of google it resolves without issue
[21:52] <ldcicconi> my volume toggle has disappeared, and my volume/music buttons on my keyboard have stopped working. I am on 13.10. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:52] <adamcunnington> exit
[21:52] <chiluk> as is the serial memtest currently
[21:52] <ldcicconi> Is there possibly a way to reset all audio stuff?
[21:52] <Jordan_U> chiluk: Sorry, I actually just accidentily posted an old message :)
[21:53] <chiluk> Jordan_U, back to #grub?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> chiluk: Sure, though I don't have any more suggestions for you in #grub at the moment.
[21:53] <chiluk> hah no worries.
[21:56] <roasted_> hello friends
[21:56] <roasted_> Question - I'm running clusterssh, which opens an ssh terminal window to any number of systems I command. Right now I have 37 terminals open. Is there a way to make all currently open applications/windows auto resize themselves EQUALLY to fit the screen?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> JoeSomebody: It's hard for me to understand what you want from the way you phrased your question. Is this correct? : You have a URL in a cell in LibreOffice and you want to be able to be able to open that URL in a browser, without needed to manually copy and paste the URL into the browser?
[21:59] <tiblock> Hi. I want to edit /etc/fstab to auto-mount partition on boot, i need "UUID", how i can list UUIDs for partitions?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> tiblock: sudo blkid
[22:00] <tiblock> Jordan_U, thank you
[22:00] <Jordan_U> tiblock: You're welcome.
[22:01] <basketball> how do i sync the caps lock light on laptop and external keyboard
[22:02] <DomeMaster> hi
[22:02] <DomeMaster> I just installed quake 3 arena
[22:02] <DomeMaster> it works great
[22:02] <DomeMaster> but I want to change the config file
[22:02] <DomeMaster> but I have no idea where its installed
[22:02] <DomeMaster> where a games normally installed on ubuntu?
[22:03] <daftykins> open a terminal, "sudo updatedb" then "locate <config file>" i think it was called q3config.cfg but that's a guess
[22:03] <xenolyse> Wherever you place it. Youd conf should be in your home directory
[22:03] <xenolyse> ~/.q3a/
[22:04] <DomeMaster> ahh let me see thanks
[22:04] <unicornjedi> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.10. My computer does not wake up properly from suspend. When I wake up the computer all I get is a black screen. The monitors do detect a video input though.
[22:04] <OerHeks> DomeMaster, look in ~/.q3a/   (hidden)
[22:04] <DomeMaster> yeah you were right dude
[22:04] <DomeMaster> thanks
[22:04] <DomeMaster> thanks OerHeks and xenolyse
[22:05] <xenolyse> DomeMaster: np
[22:05] <OerHeks> have fun
[22:05] <DomeMaster> I will :)
[22:05] <unicornjedi> DomeMaster, :D
[22:05] <Guest75104> Im a bit fat
[22:05] <DomeMaster> right I'm off
[22:05] <Guest75104> wrong chan sorry
[22:06] <DomeMaster> sorry for being so selfish/greedy I'm not sure of the word
[22:06] <DomeMaster> all I can say is I hope some karma comes back to you guys
[22:07] <mljsimone> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It comes with a old version of boost
[22:07] <unicornjedi> so can anyone read me?
[22:08] <mljsimone> What is the best way to install boost 1.55?
[22:08] <mljsimone> unicornjedi: I can.
[22:09] <unicornjedi> mljsimone, ground control to major tom
[22:09] <basketball> when i press caps lock on my laptop how do i get the caps light lock to show up on usb keybopard and vice versa
[22:11] <unicornjedi> basketball, sorry I dont know
[22:12] <NEone> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I have seen my latest PHP is 5.3.10. Why does it not update to 5.4 or 5.5?
[22:12] <adamcunnington> can anyone help with virtualbox? the channel is fairly dead. I can't figure out how to get shared folders working and i'm not convinced it's installed properly on my guest even though i've done that twice; http://imgur.com/Bwqah5I
[22:12] <adac> My new samsung printer has been detected via network. I added the printer but when I want to print then at the first momennt it seems that the printer has been contacted, but nothing is printed out. How can I debug this?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> adamcunnington: What OS is on the host, and what OS is in the guest?
[22:15] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: NAT? Bridged? Host only? is the VM on the same machine as the host?
[22:15] <tgm4883> NEone, the version of PHP in 12.04 is 5.3. That means you will get fixes for it (which I'm assuming is stuff inside 5.3.x). You won't see a minor version upgrade until the next ubuntu release. IIRC, This is because minor versions of PHP have a tendency to have incompatibilities with stuff written against other versions
[22:15] <tdannecy> adac: Are you able to send a test print?
[22:16] <NEone> tgm4883: Can - and should I - upgrade php manually?
[22:16] <tgm4883> NEone, why would you want to do that?
[22:17] <adac> tdannecy, nope. it says "job submitted as job id 120" and the printer seems to get a signal, but nothing gets printed out actually. I can also see no jobs on the printer queue
[22:17] <NEone> I use that Ubuntu as a webserver and the developer is using a IDE and a framework which is optimized for code in php 5.4
[22:17] <Bashing-om> NEone: I am not on 12.04 ATT, so can not confirm the version. Generally versions are frozen within a relesse to preserve stability. One Might upgrade an app through a PPA - for an experienced user as might cause breakage of your system.
[22:17] <adamcunnington> Jordan_U: ubuntu 12.04 host, win7 guest
[22:18] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: not sure what the first 3 questions mean but yes the vm is on the same machine
[22:18] <tgm4883> NEone, personally, if it works on 5.3 then I would leave the OS at that.
[22:18] <tdannecy> adac: Pull up http://localhost:631/ in your browser and try to config the printer from there. Also, printers are notorious for being difficult. I'd suggest restarting that printer a few times for good luck.
[22:18] <ldcicconi> printers are the worst things in existence
[22:18] <adac> tdannecy, thanks mate. I will try out your suggestions
[22:19] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, are you using virtualbox from the ubuntu repos or from the oracle/virtualbox repos?
[22:19] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: ubuntu
[22:19] <adamcunnington> i don't even know where to get access to the shared folders in windows7 (guest) - should it just be in my documents?
[22:19] <adamcunnington> the docs are terrible!
[22:19] <NEone> Okay, will try if it works on php5.3 and otherwise will upgrade the Ubuntu version first:/ ...Thanks for your help, guys.
[22:19] <adamcunnington> brb
[22:19] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, it should be in "My Computer"
[22:19] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: ok, i don't think it's there
[22:20] <tgm4883> IIRC, it shows up as a drive letter. I don't use virtualbox anymore so I can't test it
[22:20] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: virtualbox additions is showing as a dvd in my computer - the icon is in the system tray though so it's installed
[22:20] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: on that note, can i stop that dvd appearing now that it's installed in the host
[22:20] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, yes, just disconnect the drive from the VM
[22:20] <tgm4883> err, disconnect the ISO I mean
[22:21] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: how do i do that?
[22:21] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: and then after, i guess i need to manually map the link, do you know how i do that?
[22:22] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: if you left it NATted then they are technically on different networks
[22:22] <sudormrf> and you likely won't be able to access the files
[22:22] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: i don't know if i've done that, how do i check
[22:22] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, Devices > CD/DVD Devices > Remove disk from virtual drive
[22:22] <sudormrf> adamcunnington: that is the default behavior, so if you don't know, that is what it is doing.
[22:23] <tgm4883> sudormrf, god I'd hope virtualbox is smarter than that for shared folders
[22:23] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: thanks
[22:23] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, do you know where the virtualmachine settings are?
[22:24] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: yea
[22:24] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: thanks i've disconnected the drive, how can i sort out my shared folder issue now
[22:24] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, go into the settings, I need you to check two things
[22:24] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: ok
[22:24] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, yes, that is what we are checking
[22:24] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, first, under "Network", what does it say next to "Attached to:"
[22:25] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: NAT
[22:25] <adamcunnington> do i want internal network or host only adapter?
[22:26] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, ok, at least for a test, can you change that to "Bridged Adapter"
[22:26] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, second, can you post a screenshot of "Shared Folders"
[22:27] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: yea will do now
[22:27] <stunts513> anyone else notice libguestfs-tools not working on 13.10 or is it just me?
[22:28] <sudormrf> tgm4883: I am not sure if it is TBH.  I haven't really used it for this kind of stuff. haha.
[22:28] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: http://imgur.com/GySBAa0
[22:29] <mark4> seems debian distributions do not ship with PAX patched kernels. does ubuntu?
[22:29] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, ok, that part looks good, were you able to switch the network to "Bridged Adapter"?
[22:29] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: yea i see it now, it's under network
[22:29] <adamcunnington> the shared folder that is
[22:29] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, awesome
[22:29] <adamcunnington> thanks very much
[22:29] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: cheers man!
[22:30] <tgm4883> sudormrf, well I guess that settles it, VirtualBox isn't that smart
[22:30] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, yw
[22:30] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: is bridged network the right / fastest one then?
[22:30] <jiomi> hello everyone, which tool is the best/most reliable to delete metadata from photos before uploading?
[22:30] <adamcunnington> no way of me taking advantage of the fact that it's on the same machine so avoiding an internet network altogether
[22:30] <mark4> guess nobody here understands the question.. or doesnt know the answer ?
[22:30] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, "bridged adapter" basically makes it look like another machine on your network. eg. it will get it's IP address from your router/dhcp server
[22:31] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, it doesn't look like it if you want to use the shared folders feature
[22:31] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: ok - tbh i didn't chec under networks when it was connected via NAT before, shouldi revert and test it?
[22:31] <tgm4883> mark4, whats a pax patched kernel?  /me goes to google
[22:31] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: also, i don't appear to be able to write to it in the guest, only read
[22:31] <tgm4883> adamcunnington, it's worth a show
[22:32] <tgm4883> shot*
[22:32] <mark4> its a security feature
[22:32] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: ignore that
[22:32] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: just was taking a while to appear
[22:33] <tgm4883> mark4, is it short for something?
[22:33] <adamcunnington> tgm4883: nat works too, thanks
[22:33] <tgm4883> mark4, this is the best I can do  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[22:34] <mark4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaX
[22:34] <jiomi> hello everyone, which tool is the best/most reliable to delete metadata from photos before uploading?
[22:34] <mark4> PaX is a patch for the Linux kernel that implements least privilege protections for memory pages.
[22:35] <sudormrf> tgm4883: heh.
[22:35] <mark4> so: debian ignores the FHS and does not support PAX security features... /facepalm
[22:36] <mark4> guess my projects are going to have a "does not support debian based distributions" clause
[22:36] <mark4> because im not fixing other peoples breakages in my code
[22:36] <mark4> ty
[22:36] <tdannecy> !best | jiomi
[22:37] <jiomi> tdannecy, no poll is intended here. it was just a matter of saying. my preference is just reliability.
[22:38] <jiomi> I mentioned that I wanted to upload, and I dont want the accompanying metadata to be uploaded with the picture.
[22:38] <jiomi> that's my purpose.
[22:39] <sjmikem> Why does alt-tab sometimes not switch applications like it's supposed to?
[22:39] <sjmikem> e.g. sometimes I alt-tab to terminal but terminal doesn't come to foreground
[22:40] <unicornjedi> jiomi, you could use gimp and edit the metadata there
[22:40] <tdannecy> jiomi: If you want to remove metadata from files, you should use a command line application called "exiftool". You can install it by running "sudo apt-get install libimage-exiftool-perl"
[22:40] <jiomi> tdannecy, I found a tool named exiv2
[22:41] <tdannecy> jiomi: Then, you can use exiftool by navigating to the directory and running "exiftool -all= *.jpg"
[22:41] <adac> tdannecy, http://imgur.com/mFi47U1 but nothing is printed.
[22:41] <aMoniker> Is there a way to force mv to overwrite a directory instead of copying contents into it?
[22:41] <aMoniker> i.e. mv dir1 dir2 - I want dir1 to replace dir2, not be copied to dir2/dir1
[22:41] <aMoniker> s/copied/moved/
[22:42] <Jordan_U> aMoniker: mv doing an implicit rm -r sounds dangerous and wrong. Would it be enough for mv to warn you when the destination already exists and is a directory?
[22:42] <aMoniker> Jordan_U: No. I want the implicit rm -r
[22:43] <aMoniker> it does this for files
[22:43] <Jordan_U> aMoniker: Why? What is your end goal? Would you be OK with creating your own command of a different name that does this?
[22:43] <iananananan> how can i tell mptcp to stop doing whatever it's doing?
[22:44] <aMoniker> Jordan_U: I'd rather use a builtin if there's one available
[22:44] <unicornjedi> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.10. My computer does not wake up properly from suspend. When I wake up the computer all I get is a black screen. The monitors do detect a video input though.
[22:44] <iananananan> if i can't control+c
[22:44] <jiomi> tdannecy, is the  command in your last reply used for deleting metadata?
[22:44] <jiomi> I mean  "exiftool -all= *.jpg"
[22:44] <unicornjedi> here is a pastebin for /var/log/pm-suspend.log   and    sudo lspci -vnn | grep -A12 VGA     and    cat /proc/cmdline
[22:44] <unicornjedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7041051/
[22:44] <unicornjedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7041084/
[22:45] <unicornjedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7041085/
[22:45] <tdannecy> jiomi: Yes. It should remove metadata from all jpg images within that directory.
[22:45] <jiomi> what if I want to remove it from a particular file?
[22:45] <tdannecy> adac: Which printer driver do you have installed for that printer?
[22:46] <tdannecy> jiomi: The command would then be "exiftool -all=YOUFRILENAME.jpg"
[22:46] <jiomi> tdannecy, what if I want to remove it from a particular file?
[22:47] <sergey> my wacom tablet isn't working on ubuntu 12.04
[22:47] <sergey> it's a new version of wacom intuos tablet.
[22:47] <adac> tdannecy, actually It was found via printer settings as a ntwork printer so I just used the standard driver I guess. I did not install one
[22:47] <adac> where can i see that?
[22:47] <jiomi> tdannecy, thank you very much"
[22:47] <jiomi> !
[22:47] <tdannecy> adac: Np
[22:48] <tdannecy> adac: You should change the printer drive by opening the printer settings, right clicking and going to properties, and selecting the "postscript-samsung" printer driver.
[22:48] <Jordan_U> aMoniker: There is only --no-target-directory, and that requires the target directory to be either non-existant or empty.
[22:48] <tdannecy> adac: It might be easier to remove the printer and add it again with the correct driver.
[22:48] <aMoniker> Jordan_U: ok, I'll just mv the target, mv the replacement, and rm the old target
[22:48] <jiomi> tdannecy, can I use this tool with .png files?
[22:49] <jjavaholic> how do you set /home/username as a windows share and how can i set up user username userpassward credentials that match?
[22:49] <iananananan> ping
[22:49] <potential> pong
[22:49] <iananananan> woop
[22:49] <tgm4883> !ping
[22:49] <iananananan> wrong window :3
[22:49] <gvo> I have a strange networking problem.  I have a netbook running 12.04 and a desktop running the same.  The desktop refuses to connect to a specific router but will connect to another in the area.  The error message is "bad password".  The netbook will connect to either router with no problem.  The desktop is configured identical to the netbook.  I even copied and pasted the passwd to the...
[22:50] <gvo> ...desktop to be sure.  Any ideas what might be wrong?
[22:50] <iananananan> what exactly happens when i mptcp -r?
[22:50] <adac> tdannecy, can this be done also via cups webinterface?
[22:51] <tdannecy> jiomi: You should be able to by just switching the file name. It should be automatic with that extension. You can also run "man exiftool" to get the full arguments. Also check here to see the complete metadata tags in png files: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/PNG.html
[22:51] <stunts513> anybody know why the "disable touchpad while typing" option wouldnt be working when checked off?
[22:51] <jiomi> tdannecy, i tried with a png file, and the response was "no file specified", then I saved it as "jpeg", and it gave the same error.
[22:52] <tdannecy> adac: You should be able to. I can't walk you through the specifics (because I don't have a printer installed on this unit), but the options should be relatively the same. You're looking to switch the drivers to "postscript-samsung" and you should be good to go.
[22:52] <tdannecy> jiomi: What's the exact command you ran in the Terminal?
[22:52] <unicornjedi> !ping
[22:52] <jiomi> :~/Photos$ exiftool -all=mypicture.jpeg
[22:53] <jiomi> tdannecy, it was   :~/Photos$ exiftool -all=mypicture.jpeg
[22:53] <unicornjedi> does anyone have time later today to help me with this problem?
[22:53] <adac> tdannecy, yes I just found it. it is pretty much self explaining. Thanks a lot mate!
[22:54] <tdannecy> adac: Np!
[22:54] <unicornjedi> can anyone read me?
[22:54] <tdannecy> jiomi: Give me a minute.
[22:54] <tdannecy> !ask | unicornjedi
[22:55] <unicornjedi> are you serious.... i said my problem 3 times
[22:58] <unicornjedi> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.10. My computer does not wake up properly from suspend. When I wake up the computer all I get is a black screen. The monitors do detect a video input though.
[22:58] <unicornjedi> here is a pastebin for /var/log/pm-suspend.log   and    sudo lspci -vnn | grep -A12 VGA     and    cat /proc/cmdline
[22:58] <unicornjedi>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7041051/
[22:58] <unicornjedi>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7041084/
[22:58] <unicornjedi> can anyone read what i just posted?
[22:59] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, yes
[23:00] <tdannecy> jiomi: If you're removing metadata, run "exiftool -all= YOURFILENAME.jpg". I forgot the space when I typed it earlier... Sorry about that.
[23:00] <unicornjedi> tgm4883, thank you
[23:00] <gkmngrgn> hello I installed gnome3 from gnome3-team ppa repository and upgraded to ubuntu 14.04. now, unity does not start smoothly, there's a black screen: http://i.imgur.com/tBQweN0.png how can I fix this problem?
[23:01] <tdannecy> jiomi: That tool will remove the metadata from your original file and create a backup named "YOURFILENAME.jpg_original" in the same directory.
[23:01] <unicornjedi> gooodbye
[23:01] <unicornjedi> if anyone has the solution to this problem, ill be back on this channel in 2 hours
[23:02] <arayaq> gkmngrgn: support for Ubuntu 14.04 isn't given in this channel until release date, maybe in ##ubuntu+1 they can help you
[23:03] <tripelb> My panel icin for networking vanished and I would like it back.  (also adobe upgrade wont load, repeatedly) 12.04 Gnome-classic 12.04
[23:03] <gkmngrgn> arayaq, ok but I repeated this problem with 13.10. it's related with gnome3 repository and I tried to remove gnome3 packages. but it doesn't solve the problem.
[23:05] <Guest68071> ok
[23:08] <arayaq> gkmngrgn: that's part of the risks you assume when adding ppa's
[23:09] <adac> tdannecy, I chose this one: Driver:	Samsung CLX-4190 Series , Postscript-Samsung 20140110 (OpenPrinting LSB 3.2) (color, 2-sided printing)   ...but sill no luck unfortuntaly
[23:09] <adac> Defaults:	job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=one-sided
[23:11] <dgarstang> Can I do... apt-get install foo>=1.1 or similar?
[23:12] <dgarstang> I know I can do apt-get install foo==1.1
[23:12] <dgarstang> or maybe it's just '='
[23:12] <Splitpaw> hi
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> dgarstang  apt-cache search foo | less ... then install whatever package you need
[23:15] <tdannecy> adac: Is this a network printer?
[23:15] <dgarstang> MonkeyDust: Trying to automate. sounds like scrapage is required
[23:16] <adac> tdannecy, exactly. For now I choose to use ipp
[23:16] <dgarstang> MonkeyDust: that assumes that /bin/sort follows the same rules as ">"...
[23:16] <tdannecy> adac: I'm all out of options, but this forum post looks promising: http://www.devhardware.com/forums/peripherals-72/using-a-samsung-clx-3170-clx-3175fn-scanner-via-network-in-ubuntu-263036.html
[23:17] <adac> tdannecy, thanks I will have a look at that!
[23:17] <jjavaholic> what is going wrong here: http://pastebin.com/cEda9fTE
[23:17] <adac> tdannecy, one mor thing: could it be that the printing is somehow password protcted?
[23:17] <basketball> when i press caps lock button on usb keyboard how do i turn on the caps lock light on laptop
[23:18] <tdannecy> adac: I have no idea about what Samsung's setup would be. You might want to check their manuals? Sorry buddy. Not too sure about that.
[23:18] <tripelb> My panel icin for networking vanished and I would like it back.  (also adobe upgrade wont load, repeatedly) 12.04 Gnome-classic 12.04  asking again after a half hour.
[23:19] <jiomi> tdannecy, it is the same command as before. the space was there before
[23:19] <OerHeks> basketball, press caps lock on laptop too
[23:19] <basketball> OerHeks,  how do i sync them
[23:20] <jiomi> tdannecy, now it worked, thank you!
[23:20] <skift> in mt web directory, at /var/www, i want to set it so when I create a directory, it keeps the 'www-data' user/group. I tried adding the sticky bit to the permissions, and shows 'rwsrwsr-w' but when I create a directory, it is still owned by me. the parent directory is 'www-data'
[23:20] <tdannecy> jiomi: Np!
[23:20] <jiomi> tdannecy, it seems the extension is case sensitive, I had to enter Jpeg instead of jpeg
[23:21] <tdannecy> jiomi: Aha! Tricky little command...
[23:21] <tdannecy> jiomi: It's much easier to tab-complete the filename. That way you won't mess up the spelling.
[23:22] <tdannecy> tripelb: If you're looking for the network indicator, it can be reinstalled by running "sudo apt-get install indicator-network". After that, log out and log back in.
[23:23] <genii> !info hexchat
[23:23] <genii> !info hexchat trusty
[23:24]  * genii smacks the bot
[23:24] <jon__> is this the channel for help?
[23:25] <OerHeks> jon__, as the topic says so
[23:26] <jon__> ah good because it was hard searching through the giant list of channels on irc
[23:27] <jon__> it's a feature of ubuntu to lower your brightness after a power failure or ur laptop right? or is it a thinkpad thing
[23:27] <jon__> because it lowered my brightness and usually i can turn it back, but this time i can't.
[23:27] <zsw__> how can i get the kali linux desktop inviroment
[23:28] <Ben64> zsw__: kali linux is not supported here, and not part of ubuntu
[23:29] <genii> zsw__: Why not go to their channel #kali-linux and ask there.
[23:29] <zsw__> i know but what sudo command would i use to download Kali desktop environment
[23:31] <genii> zsw__: Kali is it's own distribution with it's own install CD/DVD. You can't magically transform your Ubuntu into Kali by some package you install
[23:32] <basketball> how do i sync the caps lock num lock and scroll lock lights on laptop and usb keyboard
[23:32] <adac> tdannecy, yeah I'm moving back to the manuals :)
[23:33] <genii> zsw__: If you want Kali, go download whatever ISO image is for your system at http://www.kali.org/downloads/
[23:33] <adac> ok got to go. thanks again tdannecy !
[23:33] <zsw__> i dont have a large eneugh usb to boot it on
[23:34] <jiomi> tdannecy, it worked now. thank you very much!
[23:35] <genii> zsw__: Then i guess you're screwed until you have one
[23:35] <jiomi> tdannecy, just one last question, is there a way to see if all metadata is deleted?
[23:37] <dgarstang> can I use file:/// in sources.list ?
[23:44] <windows> hey
[23:44] <windows> any way to find terminal shorcut
[23:44] <windows> in kubuntu
[23:44] <OerHeks> windows, konsole has no shortcut AFAIK, so you can make one
[23:46] <genii> windows: Rightclick on K menu... Edit applications... System... Konsole... "Advanced" tab on right... on bottom is where to make the shortcut
[23:47] <potential> Hello.
[23:47] <basketball> how do i sync the caps indicator on the keyboard between usb keyboard and laptop keyboard
[23:47] <genii> windows: As well, for Kubuntu support, it is probably better to ask in the #kubuntu channel :)
[23:48] <potential> I am a Ubuntu user and I have a privacy concern.
[23:50] <potential> Is there any way to check if someone is accessing my personal data?
[23:52] <potential> I take that as a "no".
[23:52] <omg_scout> what do you mean personal data? Files?
[23:53] <potential> yes, files, creative content.
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> potential  why do you think someone is?
[23:54] <potential> because I am the president of the United States of America, that's why.
[23:57] <OerHeks> potential, did you enable your firewall?
[23:58] <diego_1> hello
[23:58] <potential> I thought Linux didn't need a "firewall".
[23:59] <bazhang> !ufw | potential