[00:10] hi === bill is now known as Guest15253 [00:11] why does the xubuntu 14.10 beta still show as 13.10 on boot [00:12] because that part is not updated yet. [00:12] knome, ok thank you [00:13] anyone have issues with the 14.10 beta - seems fine to me [00:13] xubuntu-artwork, fix committed long ago. [00:15] it does seems however, if I change my background to a personal picture it reverts on next boot [01:21] can some one recommend a wifi adapter that works PNP with 13.10? google is only brining me negativity and non-function [01:22] Hi. I'm in middle of installing Xubuntu 13.10 and have some questions about the encryption and LVM choices on the Installation Type window. Can anybody here help me? [01:26] what is the questions? [01:36] Thx fibz. I'm a newbie and do things like buying stuff online and online banking so I think I should choose the encryption but don't know if it's a good idea for me (I don't want to bog down my computer or get in over my head). [01:39] xubuntu982: then dont use encryption [01:39] xubuntu982: read up on what disk encryption is, and what the benifits are [01:40] xubuntu982: its more about, if your machine were physically compromised [01:40] Thx holstein. But why wouldn't I choose encryption? [01:41] if you are new, i suggest taking the defaults [01:41] xubuntu982: you stated why [01:41] xubuntu982: unnecessary overhead, potentially [01:41] There are no defaults. I either have to check the enryption box or the LVM box [01:41] or not check them [01:41] xubuntu982: is the box checked? [01:41] No [01:41] xubuntu982: then, thats a default, friend [01:42] xubuntu982: otherwise, you'll need to research both scenarios and see what fits your needs best [01:42] xubuntu982: what do i do? i dont do disk encryption. why? i dont need it for my use case [01:43] What I've read says the encryption is for the Ubuntu files, not my files. Will I be safe buying stuff online and doing online banking, things like that? [01:43] without the encryption, that is [01:43] xubuntu982: you should, as suggested, read about what it does and decide for yourself [01:44] xubuntu982: diskk encryption, as i said, is more about the machine getting physically compromised [01:44] xubuntu982: your "safety" online will also be an ongoing situation based on your activity and habits [01:45] do i do online banking? yes.. do i use disk encyption for that activity? no [01:46] So it sounds like for an ordinary person like me doing ordinary things I don't need encryption, right? [01:46] xubuntu982: for *anyone* and *everyone*, they all need to read, and decide for themselves what is needed [01:47] xubuntu982: do i read anything that makes me suggest disk encryption for you? no.. but, you need to, and our encouraged to make that decision yourself based on facts [01:47] !encryption [01:47] For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [01:52] How do I get youtube to work on xubuntu? [01:52] Thx ubottu but that's for private directories. The encryption I'm talking about is for the whole Xubuntu 13.10 installation. [01:54] Does anyone know how to get youtube to work on xubuntu? [01:56] I could really use some help! Anyone available? [01:57] xubuntu205: please be patient.. we are volunteers [01:57] xubuntu205: i just use youtube.. [01:57] !flash [01:57] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [01:57] xubuntu205: you can also use the chrome browser (not chromium) which my default has the most recent version of flash [01:58] http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [01:58] Thank you. I have already uninstalled and reinstalled flash. Tried to install chrome, but it is crashing xubuntu. [01:58] xubuntu205: or, you can opt into html5 youtube http://www.youtube.com/html5 [01:59] brb. I am going to check out the link for restricted formats. ... I did install the restricted package though. [01:59] xubuntu205: use the link i gave to confirm if you have flash or not [01:59] xubuntu982: ubottu is a bot [02:00] xubuntu982: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption http://beta.slashdot.org/story/06/10/20/2250246/why-not-use-full-disk-encryption-on-laptops [02:01] xubuntu982: i dont use it.. [02:01] Synaptic package manager states that adobe flash is intalled. Visiting http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ I get a popup stating that "No suitable plugins were found." [02:01] xubuntu205: have you restarted the browser? [02:02] I have ... sigh. I have also restarted xubuntu. [02:03] xubuntu205: it literally "just works" for me in chrome [02:03] xubuntu205: how would you like to proceed? you can tell me how you installed flash and/or chrome and we can troubleshoot [02:03] xubuntu205: i can assure you, it works [02:04] xubuntu982: you can read there "data leaks were caused due to stolen/missing laptops".. which is what that level of encryption is intended for.. not your online safety [02:05] I just re-installed flash through the link after the popup. I will restart the browser and brb. [02:05] Thanks holstein. Will read it right away. [02:05] xubuntu205: dont use the link after the popup [02:13] I was last on as 205. Am now on as lbk. http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html states that flash 11.2.202 is installed [02:13] Youtube still does not play. Just a blank screen. [02:14] xubuntu982: ok [02:14] xubuntulbk: ^ [02:14] xubuntulbk: use this http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [02:14] xubuntulbk: if you want the latest, you'll need chrome, as stated [02:15] xubuntulbk: adobe only gives that version to chrome.. not to desktop linux.. as stated there [02:15] xubuntulbk: or, you can try html5 [02:15] No popups either way. [02:16] Ok. How do I get Chrome to work. [02:16] xubuntulbk: you will elaborate [02:16] xubuntulbk: ill tell you i just install and use it [02:17] lol. sorry. http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ just brings up the page. No pop up saying it is or is not installed. [02:18] xubuntulbk: correct.. you have it installed, correct? you stated a version before.. [02:18] I installed Chrome by going to Google & selecting to install Chrome 32-bit for deb [02:18] xubuntulbk: ok.. remove it, and start over [02:19] go to https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ and re-download the .deb for 32bit, if that is appropriate [02:19] then, click on the deb, and see if it automatically installs properly... and elaborate about what is "crashing" [02:20] http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ also states version 11.2.202.341 is up to date. It looks like it is installed. ??? [02:20] xubuntulbk: that is *not* the most current version [02:20] xubuntulbk: please scroll down the page and read what adobe provides [02:21] xubuntulbk: linux gets 11.2.. chrome gets 12.0 [02:21] xubuntulbk: if you think the issue you are having is that the version of flash is too old for youtube, try the chrome version [02:22] When I select Google Chrome, I get a message that something has crashed. I can click on the message, but it repeats until I restart. [02:22] xubuntulbk: when you "select" it? where? in what way? [02:22] Selecting Chrome. [02:23] xubuntulbk: select the .deb to install? or the icon after installation? [02:33] anyone know if this bug is present in the latest 13.10? http://tinyurl.com/lesmp59 [02:34] this is the article: Critical crypto bug leaves Linux, hundreds of apps open to eavesdropping [02:35] holstein, I've decided to pass on the encrypting my whole system, but now I'm at the end and there's a box askig me if I want to encrypt my home folder. It's the same principle as the full encryption, right? The notion of it will protect your home folder if your computer is stolen, right? [02:35] xubuntu982: i dont do either.. you should try them and see.. or read about what you need [02:35] was 205, then lbk. [02:37] But it's the same principle (the encryption, that is) right? [02:37] xubuntu982: encryption is quite similar to encryption.. if not identical. yes [02:37] Hi holstein. I just locked up last time I tried running chrome. Since the restart I download chrome again. It downloaded google chrome stable 33.0.1750.146-1 [02:37] xubuntu982: it? [02:38] xubuntu427: it? [02:38] On double clicking the download, it opens ubuntu software center. It showed installed and I reinstalled it. [02:39] I am the one trying to get youtube to function [02:39] xubuntu427: youtube is what it is.. you are trying to view the content as youtube dictates you must [02:40] xubuntu427: is chrome installed? [02:40] you will also want the icedtea browser plugin [02:40] holstein, looks like you're saving the world here. I'm done. Thank you so much for all your help!!! [02:40] Software center says so. It does not run though. [02:40] xubuntu982: cheers!.. enjoy [02:40] thanks! [02:41] xubuntu427: what is the error? [02:41] Sorry xubuntu982. [02:41] dont forget the iceadtea web browser java plugin [02:41] I can try that fibz. [03:09] anyone know if xubuntu uses GnuTLS? [03:10] i'm wondering about that tls bug reported in ars technica recently -- more curious than concerened [03:15] anyone know if xubuntu uses GnuTLS - i'm wondering about that tls bug reported in ars technica recently -- more curious than concerened [03:16] (sorry - repeating myself now...) [03:16] !info gnutls-bin [03:16] gnutls-bin (source: gnutls26 (2.12.23-1ubuntu4.1)): GNU TLS library - commandline utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.11+really2.12.23-1ubuntu4.1 (saucy), package size 178 kB, installed size 691 kB [03:17] thanks holstein [03:17] http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-678-1/ [03:29] thanks fibz_ [04:19] hi to all! i can't upgrade my xubuntu 13.04 to 13.10. system show to me dialog box to upgrade my system, i'm choose upgrade. enter password and nothing happening. how can i upgrade it ? [04:19] webus: you can always just fresh install.. at this point, i would just wait til 14.04 [04:20] webus: there is no good reason to run one version behind.. the current versions get the most attention [04:21] holstein> why you wait 14.04 ? today i have no updates to my software, because 13.04 is legacy... [04:21] webus: sure.. but, 14.04 is released in april.. 13.10 will be legacy in less than 6 months [04:22] webus: if i were you, i would get on 14.04, the LTS (long term support) and it will be able to be used for 3 years or more [04:22] holstein> fresh install is good choice, but i have soo many settings and 3rd part software on the system.... [04:22] webus: otherwise http://www.unixmen.com/upgrade-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander/ looks like how i would do it [04:22] webus: the 3rd party software can break [04:22] holstein> yeah. and i afraid it :) [04:22] webus: you can deide with the data at hand.. a fresh install is quick, and you need to have all that data backed up anyways [04:22] webus: dont be afraid.. be prepared [04:23] holstein> may be using LVM on fresh install is good choice or not ? [04:24] webus: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case. if you want what LVM provides, you should use it.. if not, dont [04:25] holstein> i want more flexible partition.. to change size on the fly. [04:25] webus: why? [04:25] webus: in that case, you need to have good backups [04:25] because i'm software developer and have many 3rd packages on my system. for example if my /home is full i want to resize it [04:25] webus: if LVM facilitates that flexibility, use it [04:27] i just use gparted, after having proper backups in place [04:27] holstein> thanks for your help! i think about it [05:33] I'm trying to install Ubuntu / xUbuntu on a 10 year old pc with 1.5gb ram, however it always freezes ~ 30 seconds after the reboot, what am I doing wrong? Tried usb installation, live cd installation, and wubi [05:48] Trying to install Brother HL-3150CDN drivers (cups or LDR) in xubuntu 14.04, ia32-libs or lib32stdc++ is required to be installed but neither will install, lib32stdc++ at least shows messages which tells me it's because I'm using an unstable xubuntu release. I really wish the driver was just in the printers driver list already, it lists so many other drivers & just misses mine. [05:49] hello anybody have any experience with vmware-tools? Having trouble getting it running [05:50] http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public/us/us/en/dlf/download_top.html?reg=us&c=us&lang=en&prod=hl4150cdn_all | http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/evaluation.html AussieDownUnder [05:54] fibz, thanks for trying, been on those sites & got the .deb for my drivers, plus my model is HL-3150CDN not HL-4150CDN. [05:54] Is there a lib32stdc++ pre-release in a ppa somewhere for xubuntu 14.04? [05:55] i would add the PPAs for saucy [05:55] you would get better 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1 [06:06] fibz, would it not automatically find it in a backport or something? [06:09] i had to do that to get boot-repair to install on 14.04 [06:10] Really? I might have a look if I can add it from my mirror provider [06:10] I don't want to use my internet monthly allowance cause it does burn up when I'm forever downloading stuff on all of the debian distros when I don't get it through my providers mirror [06:11] your ISP has a debian mirror? [06:15] fibz, pretty sure, you know how you set the software source download mirrors in aptitude or ubuntu centre? Can't remember if Debian actually has that but I know Ubuntu & Xubuntu do. I can also download iso's of distros there. They don't have edubuntu or ubuntu studio though which sucks but I'm guessing I can still set software sources for them from within the os. [07:28] How do I create a directory/folder within a directory in a terminal? [07:29] mkdir [07:30] Though if you want foo/bar/ and foo doesn't exist, use mkdir -p foo/bar [07:31] okay cheers, I'll let you know when I stuff it up [07:31] Whoa massive deja vu [07:31] About mkdir [07:33] it's a pretty universal command [07:33] you may have used it before [07:34] Not working yet [07:34] trying to add a directory in var/spool [07:35] use sudo os su [07:35] *use sudo or su [07:36] Yeah tried that [07:36] Give me a sec to work out what I stuffed up [07:45] And I just realised the drivers I was trying to install were for the wrong printer for crying out loud [07:45] HL-3150CDW when I need HL-3150CDN [07:45] One letter out [07:50] Should I really be installing both LPR & CUPS drivers for a printer or just only one of either? [08:04] Oh my god I just printed something from my HL-3150CDN [08:04] Amen to jesus [08:05] brother is linux's best friend [08:06] thats too bad it was such an ordeal [08:08] Yeah I know, I wonder why my model isn't already listed in with the rest that come in the xubuntu printer drivers. Is there a way to update that list? [08:10] between the mailing list, launchpad and freenode, that should be possible [08:14] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel | #xubuntu-devel [08:17] not really anything to do with us [08:18] what team would that be? [08:20] not at all sure - you could put it on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters [08:20] I'd guess that the list you see from Printers is something to do with cups though [09:16] hi - anyone here use portsentry? having trouble making it detect nmap port scans === DanChapman_ is now known as DanChapman === xubuntu952 is now known as WaY2DumB [10:26] are certain older CPUs unsupported in 13.10? i was moving my old Dell Inspirion 1300 off Windows XP (w/ the april doomsday of xp looming.) and i get frequent crashes/segment faults/Kernel Panics under 13.10 [10:29] Cael, entirely possible. try lubuntu. [10:31] (which uses a Pentium M) and allright [10:46] cfhowlett: trying lubuntu won't help, as it uses the same kernel [10:47] Cael: ubuntu (and all derivatives) stopped supporting some very old cpus, but the effect of that is that it won't even boot on them [10:47] Cael, ^^^ this. consider grabbing 14.04 - it will be Long Term Support [10:47] Cael: random kernel panics may be an indication of hardware problems, or you might need to pass some additional boot parameters to kernel [10:48] !boot | Cael [10:48] Cael: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [10:48] beta is available now [10:50] TheSheep, thanks for pointing that out. [10:50] figured that. not sure how far back i'd haveto go or what options are needed to get the kernel panics to stop. [10:50] well the boot floppy is useless to me the inspirion 1300 has no floppy drive. [10:51] Cael: boot floppy? [10:51] Cael: I meant the boot options that you configure in grub [10:52] ahh it also mentions a bootfloppy.) but looking thru the options now [11:01] Cael: it will probably require some experimenting [11:01] Cael: also be sure to run the memory check [11:02] allright but strangely under xp i haven any instability so im not super sure its the ram but doesnt hurt to check, === mnepton is now known as mneptok === gonyere_ is now known as gonyere [12:15] Hi [12:16] hi [12:16] Sometimes when I start xubuntu. it freezes just before the login form [12:16] I then shut it off using the power button [12:17] i'm just a noob looking for some help like you ^^ sorry [12:17] what is ur issue? [12:19] my xubuntu ethernet connexion is down [12:19] is it a laptop? [12:19] (excuse my french english) [12:20] yes it's a laptop (2006) T_T [12:20] wifi is working [12:22] actually, when i put a ethernet cable, the laptop see it and connexion icon show tow rotating arrows [12:23] seems line a /etc/network problem [12:23] but he can not connect [12:23] is the cable in good condition before we go any further [12:23] ? [12:24] yes, i try with a friend's laptop [12:24] tried [12:24] sorry ^^ [12:24] it was workin [12:24] okej [12:25] sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces [12:26] what do you see. paste in ubuntu.pastebin [12:26] you have to know, also, if i tried a ethernet connexion from an other network, an other box, sometime it's working, for a few time... it's really strange ^^ [12:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [12:26] ok [12:26] i'll do it [12:28] waiting [12:29] should i plug the cable before ? [12:29] you can do it if you want. doesn't harm [12:30] ok so it's just opening a new window, "gedit" with three little lines of text [12:31] yes [12:31] copy and past in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [12:31] ans send the link to me [12:31] done ! [12:31] then send it here [12:35] I do not understand the functioning of paste ubuntu. I pasted the text and click "paste" and i just saw my text and a button "download as text". [12:35] oh ! the ling [12:35] link** [12:35] sorry [12:35] -.- [12:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038259/ [12:36] i'm so noob ^^ [12:36] change it to this and reboot and try again [12:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038288/ [12:37] ok i'll do it [12:37] i'll come back to tell you if it work [12:38] dont forget to disconnect from wireless first [12:38] ok [12:39] there is no "#' in you text, is it okay (just asking) [12:40] it's just a comment. it dont do any function [13:13] @peyam >sorry i sorry I could not find the channel === Pici` is now known as Pici === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [16:43] español? [16:43] alguien? [16:44] !es | sv503 [16:44] sv503: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [17:15] hi everyone, i'm making a live cd of my installation, i'm chrooted into it, i'm having a fstab error, has anyone dealt with this before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039505/ [17:16] could it be a problem with me using xubuntu [17:17] hy y have a problem with my pc [17:18] and y have nedd helpp [17:18] hy [17:19] !details | xubuntu826 [17:19] xubuntu826: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [17:20] How do I go wireless in xubuntu? [17:23] if you could tell me what I need to do so that we can head out wirlesul [17:32] xubuntu826, wireless should work by default [17:32] no need of extra configuration [17:32] not activated and do not know how to activate [17:41] hey guys anyone tried xubuntu with LTSP? [17:50] xubuntu826, your wireless card likely requires proprietary non-free drivers [17:52] and where they take? [17:54] you're online, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+non-free+drivers [17:54] i'm new to ubuntu, i don't use wireless [17:54] but if your card isn't active at the start, that seems pretty likely [18:00] hi all [18:05] That was quick [18:51] hi at all, i am just testing xubuntu live on usb 12.4, my question is: will xubuntu save configurations i make at a live session? [18:55] if not, is there a chance to do so? just tried many distributions the last days to check out which one runs best on my old netbook, xubuntu is, now i want to set up a usb-live distro, which will have a folder on it, with educational ebooks on it, and a text/wiki editor to work with those pdfs. is there any chance to do so with xubuntu as a live distro? [18:57] !usb | knoips [18:57] knoips: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [18:57] i will check it, thx [19:07] just read it, but maybe didnt understand it. i have make a usb-xubuntu 12.4 disto with unetbootin, just using the xubuntu right now. may the configurations i do will be saved for the next start up? [19:07] the wiki file sounds like that [19:08] sorry english is not my native lang [19:08] knoips: Only if you chose the persistency option on creating the Live USB. [19:11] ok, as i remember, unetbootin wasnt asking for a persistent mode... but thanks so far [19:33] Hi everyone, what is the xubuntu (13.04) program most likely to succesfully manage to connect an MTP device (Galaxy Nexus) [19:33] Gamoder: 13.04 is EOL for more than a month now. [19:35] Oh, thought it was 18 Months support, but they seem to have changed that [19:36] With 13.04 starting, non-LTS releases have 9 months support only. [19:36] yeah, I have just read that [19:57] hi folks [19:58] i installed fail2ban to block these pesky people trying to ssh in ...and it seems to work but then it also ignored someone earlier..tried 6x in 16 seconds? [20:50] hi so i was installing fglrx for my drivers, i have amd radeon x1200 which is not supported by linux, and after installing fglrx i reeboted system and i got black screen and just nothing happens. what should i do? [20:52] xubuntu959: That's because it's exactly the other way around. :P [20:52] i dont get it? [20:53] xubuntu959: It's the proprietary AMD/ATI that doesn't support your graphics device anymore. [20:53] *driver [20:54] so what should i do? i tried sudo apt=get rm fglrx [20:54] and nothing happens [20:54] in recovery mode ofc [20:55] xubuntu959: I assume you tried that with the right syntax? [20:55] sudo apt-get remove fglrx [20:55] Ok. [20:56] i dont think my terminal in recovery works properly [20:56] it cant connect to internet, cd, ls.. nothing [20:56] mount -o rw,remount / [20:57] do that in the recovery session first then you should be ok to remove things [20:57] also you'll probably need to start networking from the menu [21:09] so i just tried it and it wont still works [21:10] i got to the recovery mode and then in network and this shows up [21:10] network -manager start/running process 878 [21:10] and just stares and nothing can be done [21:10] so i ctrl+alt+delete it and then got in root sheel [21:11] but after a few seconds system just reboots itself like its not mine === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [22:15] when i press caps lock on my laptop how do i get the caps light lock to show up on usb keybopard and vice versa [22:16] !crosspost | basketball [22:16] basketball: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [23:41] Hi [23:41] Im trying to boot the 14.04 beta and it says casper/vmlinuz not found. I verified md5 on the iso and its fine, and burnt a 2nd disk and no effect. [23:41] Any idea whats going on? Is the beta isa just borked [23:41] iso* [23:43] #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 support issues please kzetts [23:44] this si for xubuntu though [23:44] that channel will still be applicable? [23:44] yep