| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:28 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | morning, but nothing good | 12:29 |
| cmaloney | That not good huh? | 12:30 |
| cmaloney | Realizing one of the "benefits" of sitting by a window at work: getting to see that bright ball of gas in the sky right in my eyeballs | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | having a wife that can talk in her sleep, or say scream "why aren't you running, they're killing you" several times in the night makes for cranky husband | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 12:31 |
| cmaloney | I'll take it though | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | you moved to a window seat eh? | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | very cool | 12:31 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I'm in the cube that they used to use for storage. | 12:31 |
| cmaloney | Over where your whiteboard of doom is. | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | Oh ok, so by window it's a bit away still, not right by the window wall | 12:32 |
| cmaloney | Yeah. | 12:34 |
| cmaloney | Will PM you a pic when it finishes uploading | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 12:34 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: So on the plus side at least Erica is trying to save you and not saying "why don't you die you son-of-a-bitch". | 12:38 |
| cmaloney | So that's a plus. | 12:38 |
| cmaloney | s/don't/won't/ | 12:38 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | and this is why I like rss feeds with cached content. "ooh, interesting article" click it and "page not found" | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | ooooh, something up there | 12:51 |
| cmaloney | This is why I use rss2email | 12:53 |
| cmaloney | Though I'm finding that graphic-heavy RSS feeds (like comics) are a bit of a pain in Mutt. | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I love my text but don't think I could do it in mutt | 12:55 |
| cmaloney | It's not awful | 12:55 |
| cmaloney | but it does make you realize how much images help walls of text | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 12:56 |
| cmaloney | (or conversely how much images hide a lack of text) | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | that too | 12:57 |
| jrwren | so... I looked at tpp and I like it, but another text markup language? ugh. no matter how trivial? seems like just using Markdown would have made a lot of sense. | 13:26 |
| jrwren | with a few conventions | 13:26 |
| cmaloney | I think I'm becoming greg-g | 14:11 |
| cmaloney | Picked up Cathedral and Kyuss last night. | 14:11 |
| dzho | this is music I take it | 14:11 |
| cmaloney | Yep. | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | Good music. | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | "Doom metal" | 14:12 |
| dzho | "pain in the Mutt" haha I see what you did there | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | No "the" in there, but I'll accept credit. ;) | 14:13 |
| dzho | oh | 14:13 |
| dzho | now that you mention it | 14:13 |
| dzho | that, kids, is what we call "closure" | 14:13 |
| dzho | ART! | 14:13 |
| dzho | I've had w3m set in my ~/.mailcap to handle text/html for a while now | 14:14 |
| dzho | but I just put "auto_view text/html" | 14:14 |
| dzho | in my .muttrc in the last week or so | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, and that's fine for most mail save for graphics. | 14:14 |
| dzho | yeah. | 14:14 |
| dzho | I felt I had to do it because our dept is switching to office 365, and other units have already switched, so I'm seeing a lot more mail with only a text/html part | 14:15 |
| dzho | and replying to that without auto_view is a problem | 14:15 |
| dzho | :( | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: are you planning on submitting a talk for pyohio? | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | heh, well another bookmark app comes out https://unmark.it/ | 15:26 |
| cmaloney | Was thinking about it but not 100% what I could cover that would be of interest. | 15:36 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: ^ | 15:36 |
| brousch | cmaloney: You can cover all of the bugs rick_h_ left you in his legacy code | 15:38 |
| rick_h_ | lol "when the bastard leaves" | 15:39 |
| widox | rick_h_: odd name choice | 15:39 |
| widox | oh, its on GH too | 15:39 |
| widox | heh, free option lets you keep 50 total bookmarks O_o | 15:39 |
| cmaloney | "Sex, lies, and non-PEP8: the hidden code of rick_h_ " | 15:40 |
| rick_h_ | noooooooooooooo! | 15:40 |
| brousch | YES | 15:40 |
| brousch | cmaloney: For when you go cyborg http://phys.org/news/2014-03-robotic-prosthesis-drummer-three-armed-cyborg.html | 15:54 |
| jrwren | i must admit - getting better at sed makes me feel a bit dirty :) | 16:05 |
| brousch | jrwren: It has made you more attractive, too | 16:07 |
| jrwren | I do prefer dirty people to clean people | 16:08 |
| cmaloney | Nothing wrong with sed. Sometimes it's all you need | 16:10 |
| jrwren | agree. | 16:19 |
| jrwren | sometimes it is all you have | 16:19 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm getting really frustrated by something extremely stupid | 16:51 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm trying to use sys.stdout.write | 16:51 |
| mrgoodcat | but i don't want to type out the whole thing | 16:51 |
| mrgoodcat | how can i import it so that i only have to type write()? | 16:51 |
| rick_h_ | from sys.stdout import write as write | 16:52 |
| rick_h_ | well you don't need the as write | 16:52 |
| rick_h_ | I was thinking of saving it as something else, nvm | 16:52 |
| mrgoodcat | no module named stdout | 16:52 |
| mrgoodcat | time to go anyways | 16:53 |
| jrwren | from sys import stdout ; write=stdout.write | 16:53 |
| jrwren | stdout is the member of teh sys module. it is a file like object so it has a write member on it. | 16:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 16:53 |
| cmaloney | It's my experience that if you're writing directly to stdout you're overthinking your problem. :) | 17:22 |
| cmaloney | or you haven't discovered logger. :) | 17:22 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 17:22 |
| jrwren | really? | 17:31 |
| jrwren | so you don't printf? | 17:31 |
| jrwren | or cout << | 17:31 |
| jrwren | or echo in your bash scripts? | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | I typically just print or use logging. | 17:32 |
| jrwren | i means printf in C, cout in C++ | 17:33 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I mean Python | 17:36 |
| cmaloney | Of course I have to use stdout in C and C++. ;) | 17:38 |
| jrwren | you don't have to. | 17:39 |
| jrwren | why would C and C++ be any different than python with regard to stdout and logging? | 17:39 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I mean I don't have to resort to using sys.stdout to get output. I usually just use print / logging | 17:55 |
| jrwren | oh! | 17:57 |
| jrwren | i was confuzled | 17:57 |
| cmaloney | si. :) | 17:58 |
| jrwren | nonsequitor: now that i've used RST for a bit, I can totally see why markdown is more popular and won. | 17:58 |
| cmaloney | what do you like better about markdown over RST? | 17:59 |
| cmaloney | I find RST is a hair more strict and less finger friendly. | 17:59 |
| mrgoodcat | i like markdown | 17:59 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't know rst | 17:59 |
| rick_h_ | I just hate markdown ====== Heading ======= | 18:00 |
| mrgoodcat | the problem i have with print is the newline character at the end. How do I print without the newline character? | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | the rst way of underlining makes so much more sense to me | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | why would you not want the newline? | 18:00 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: you can put the ===== underneath Heading as well | 18:00 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: There's a few ways to tackle this | 18:00 |
| cmaloney | 1: Build a string in memory using sprintf and then output using print | 18:01 |
| cmaloney | use http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493386/how-to-print-in-python-without-newline-or-space | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | print('foo'), won't add the newline | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | (note the change for Python 3 | 18:02 |
| mrgoodcat | but it will print a space | 18:02 |
| mrgoodcat | i just switched to use python 3 syntax | 18:02 |
| mrgoodcat | solved my problem | 18:03 |
| cmaloney | yeah, that's probably the better way. | 18:03 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: really? you like having to maintain the correct length of ==== both over and under your headings? | 18:03 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: meh, it makes sense to me | 18:03 |
| jrwren | MD makes SOOO much more sense here. you don't change anything except the title when you change the title. | 18:03 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: yypVR | 18:03 |
| cmaloney | = | 18:03 |
| jrwren | no | 18:03 |
| jrwren | assume i'm using sed :p | 18:03 |
| jrwren | j/k of course | 18:03 |
| jrwren | but RST is just downright mean wiht its errors and what it accepts. | 18:03 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:03 |
| jrwren | MD is much more friendly IME | 18:04 |
| rick_h_ | make lint meh | 18:04 |
| cmaloney | Agreed. RST is a bitch with indentation | 18:04 |
| cmaloney | and lists. | 18:04 |
| rick_h_ | how so? | 18:04 |
| rick_h_ | :: | 18:04 |
| rick_h_ | block | 18:04 |
| jrwren | and where does that :: go? | 18:04 |
| cmaloney | lists is what I meant. | 18:04 |
| rick_h_ | on a line | 18:04 |
| jrwren | it has to be indented perfectly and wiht or without the correct newline before and after. | 18:04 |
| jrwren | far too strict. | 18:04 |
| jrwren | MD much more human | 18:04 |
| jrwren | its must like python | 18:05 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: I agree w/ jrwren, and I'm still a fan of RST. | 18:05 |
| jrwren | (1,2) == (1,2,) | 18:05 |
| jrwren | this is human. | 18:05 |
| jrwren | i'm a fan of RST too | 18:05 |
| jrwren | I simply prefer MD for most tasks. | 18:05 |
| cmaloney | I've had to do some finagling to get my .rst files to compile properly. | 18:05 |
| jrwren | if I had complex enough docs, I'd want RST | 18:05 |
| jrwren | but I don't. | 18:05 |
| cmaloney | Fuck 'em all. Just use LaTeX. ;) | 18:06 |
| cmaloney | You had the rest, now use the best. | 18:06 |
| jrwren | sadly, that is a bit more expensive to parse | 18:06 |
| cmaloney | a bit? :) | 18:06 |
| cmaloney | Ruby is a bit expensive to parse | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | When I write in LaTeX I feel like Donald Knuth is peering over my shoulder with a ruler, waiting to smack my hand for not being correct enough. | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | If I don't get a warning or two out of my document I wonder if I actually ran the right program. | 18:08 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 18:12 |
| _stink_ | hbox overfull | 18:12 |
| _stink_ | hbox overfull | 18:12 |
| _stink_ | hbox overfull | 18:12 |
| _stink_ | is what i get. | 18:12 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/laptops-for-ubuntu-cant-make-up-my-mind/1541/3?u=jorge | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | looking | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: replied...and should have sent my book to the copy editor first heh | 19:03 |
| mathomastech | Got some reasonable success getting arch installed on my Macbook Air (2013). Still having some funky wifi issues. In order to connect to Wifi, I need to run "ip link set dev eth0 down" then "netctl start eth0-<profile>". It then connects to the network, but not the internet. If I put the computer to sleep then wake it back up, it will connect to the internet. Any got any insight as to why it behaves | 20:09 |
| mathomastech | this way? | 20:09 |
| rick_h_ | not picking up dns by default? | 20:10 |
| rick_h_ | dhcp that is | 20:10 |
| mathomastech | Doesn't appear to | 20:10 |
| rick_h_ | and a wake up grabs it | 20:10 |
| rick_h_ | check out dhclient | 20:10 |
| rick_h_ | long ago I had to manually run that to pick up dhcp info | 20:10 |
| mathomastech | Yep. I've reboot my machine and tested it 4 times. It consistantly does the same thing. | 20:10 |
| mathomastech | Ok, that looks promising. I'll test that out. On a related note, I also finally got dropbox working. The AUR package still is broken but wget it directly from dropbox and manually running the daemon works. | 20:13 |
| mathomastech | Now I just need to figure out my ruby environment (for jekyll) and my Django setup and I'll finally be up and running on it. | 20:15 |
| waf | mathomastech: you can make sure your netctl profile has IP=dhcp in it | 20:52 |
| waf | also maybe look at starting/enabling the dhcpd daemon via systemctl | 20:53 |
| mrgoodcat | apparently some dumbass forgot to properly set up equipment before plugging it into the WMU network and wiped out all of the campus vlans | 21:09 |
| jrwren | the fact that your network is vulnerable to an attack like that is the problem. | 21:20 |
| jrwren | mrgoodcat: how did it happen? | 21:20 |
| mrgoodcat | not quite sure | 21:28 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm not there | 21:28 |
| mrgoodcat | 14:52 <+typo> tl;dr he forgot to set a value in one piece of equipment, plugged it into the network, and wiped all the VLANS on westerns network | 21:30 |
| jrwren | lol, western. | 21:35 |
| jrwren | i read WMU as WSU | 21:35 |
| jrwren | still, if the network was vulnerable to that, that is pretty bad. | 21:35 |
| jrwren | oh, but a net op did it. | 21:35 |
| jrwren | so he like set the CDP password or something? | 21:36 |
| jrwren | does CDP even have a passwrod? | 21:36 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm not sure what he did exactly | 21:59 |
| mrgoodcat | i used to work there which is how i know this much | 21:59 |
| mrgoodcat | but the people i know that still work there aren't being very forthcoming with information | 21:59 |
| mrgoodcat | i think most people over there still don't know exactly what happened | 22:00 |
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