[12:28] Good morning [12:29] morning, but nothing good [12:30] That not good huh? [12:31] Realizing one of the "benefits" of sitting by a window at work: getting to see that bright ball of gas in the sky right in my eyeballs [12:31] having a wife that can talk in her sleep, or say scream "why aren't you running, they're killing you" several times in the night makes for cranky husband [12:31] hah [12:31] I'll take it though [12:31] you moved to a window seat eh? [12:31] very cool [12:31] Yeah, I'm in the cube that they used to use for storage. [12:32] Over where your whiteboard of doom is. [12:32] Oh ok, so by window it's a bit away still, not right by the window wall [12:34] Yeah. [12:34] Will PM you a pic when it finishes uploading [12:34] cool [12:38] rick_h_: So on the plus side at least Erica is trying to save you and not saying "why don't you die you son-of-a-bitch". [12:38] So that's a plus. [12:38] s/don't/won't/ [12:41] lol [12:51] and this is why I like rss feeds with cached content. "ooh, interesting article" click it and "page not found" [12:51] ooooh, something up there [12:53] This is why I use rss2email [12:54] Though I'm finding that graphic-heavy RSS feeds (like comics) are a bit of a pain in Mutt. [12:55] yea, I love my text but don't think I could do it in mutt [12:55] It's not awful [12:56] but it does make you realize how much images help walls of text [12:56] yea [12:56] (or conversely how much images hide a lack of text) [12:57] that too [13:26] so... I looked at tpp and I like it, but another text markup language? ugh. no matter how trivial? seems like just using Markdown would have made a lot of sense. [13:26] with a few conventions [14:11] I think I'm becoming greg-g [14:11] Picked up Cathedral and Kyuss last night. [14:11] this is music I take it [14:12] Yep. [14:12] Good music. [14:12] "Doom metal" [14:12] "pain in the Mutt" haha I see what you did there [14:13] No "the" in there, but I'll accept credit. ;) [14:13] oh [14:13] now that you mention it [14:13] that, kids, is what we call "closure" [14:13] ART! [14:14] I've had w3m set in my ~/.mailcap to handle text/html for a while now [14:14] but I just put "auto_view text/html" [14:14] in my .muttrc in the last week or so [14:14] Yeah, and that's fine for most mail save for graphics. [14:14] yeah. [14:15] I felt I had to do it because our dept is switching to office 365, and other units have already switched, so I'm seeing a lot more mail with only a text/html part [14:15] and replying to that without auto_view is a problem [14:15] :( [15:25] cmaloney: are you planning on submitting a talk for pyohio? [15:26] heh, well another bookmark app comes out https://unmark.it/ [15:36] Was thinking about it but not 100% what I could cover that would be of interest. [15:36] rick_h_: ^ [15:38] cmaloney: You can cover all of the bugs rick_h_ left you in his legacy code [15:39] lol "when the bastard leaves" [15:39] rick_h_: odd name choice [15:39] oh, its on GH too [15:39] heh, free option lets you keep 50 total bookmarks O_o [15:40] "Sex, lies, and non-PEP8: the hidden code of rick_h_ " [15:40] noooooooooooooo! [15:40] YES [15:54] cmaloney: For when you go cyborg http://phys.org/news/2014-03-robotic-prosthesis-drummer-three-armed-cyborg.html [16:05] i must admit - getting better at sed makes me feel a bit dirty :) [16:07] jrwren: It has made you more attractive, too [16:08] I do prefer dirty people to clean people [16:10] Nothing wrong with sed. Sometimes it's all you need [16:19] agree. [16:19] sometimes it is all you have [16:51] i'm getting really frustrated by something extremely stupid [16:51] i'm trying to use sys.stdout.write [16:51] but i don't want to type out the whole thing [16:51] how can i import it so that i only have to type write()? [16:52] from sys.stdout import write as write [16:52] well you don't need the as write [16:52] I was thinking of saving it as something else, nvm [16:52] no module named stdout [16:53] time to go anyways [16:53] from sys import stdout ; write=stdout.write [16:53] stdout is the member of teh sys module. it is a file like object so it has a write member on it. [16:53] yea [17:22] It's my experience that if you're writing directly to stdout you're overthinking your problem. :) [17:22] or you haven't discovered logger. :) [17:22] heh [17:31] really? [17:31] so you don't printf? [17:31] or cout << [17:31] or echo in your bash scripts? [17:32] I typically just print or use logging. [17:33] i means printf in C, cout in C++ [17:36] jrwren: I mean Python [17:38] Of course I have to use stdout in C and C++. ;) [17:39] you don't have to. [17:39] why would C and C++ be any different than python with regard to stdout and logging? [17:55] jrwren: I mean I don't have to resort to using sys.stdout to get output. I usually just use print / logging [17:57] oh! [17:57] i was confuzled [17:58] si. :) [17:58] nonsequitor: now that i've used RST for a bit, I can totally see why markdown is more popular and won. [17:59] what do you like better about markdown over RST? [17:59] I find RST is a hair more strict and less finger friendly. [17:59] i like markdown [17:59] i don't know rst [18:00] I just hate markdown ====== Heading ======= [18:00] the problem i have with print is the newline character at the end. How do I print without the newline character? [18:00] the rst way of underlining makes so much more sense to me [18:00] why would you not want the newline? [18:00] rick_h_: you can put the ===== underneath Heading as well [18:00] mrgoodcat: There's a few ways to tackle this [18:01] 1: Build a string in memory using sprintf and then output using print [18:02] use http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493386/how-to-print-in-python-without-newline-or-space [18:02] print('foo'), won't add the newline [18:02] (note the change for Python 3 [18:02] but it will print a space [18:02] i just switched to use python 3 syntax [18:03] solved my problem [18:03] yeah, that's probably the better way. [18:03] rick_h_: really? you like having to maintain the correct length of ==== both over and under your headings? [18:03] jrwren: meh, it makes sense to me [18:03] MD makes SOOO much more sense here. you don't change anything except the title when you change the title. [18:03] jrwren: yypVR [18:03] = [18:03] no [18:03] assume i'm using sed :p [18:03] j/k of course [18:03] but RST is just downright mean wiht its errors and what it accepts. [18:03] lol [18:04] MD is much more friendly IME [18:04] make lint meh [18:04] Agreed. RST is a bitch with indentation [18:04] and lists. [18:04] how so? [18:04] :: [18:04] block [18:04] and where does that :: go? [18:04] lists is what I meant. [18:04] on a line [18:04] it has to be indented perfectly and wiht or without the correct newline before and after. [18:04] far too strict. [18:04] MD much more human [18:05] its must like python [18:05] rick_h_: I agree w/ jrwren, and I'm still a fan of RST. [18:05] (1,2) == (1,2,) [18:05] this is human. [18:05] i'm a fan of RST too [18:05] I simply prefer MD for most tasks. [18:05] I've had to do some finagling to get my .rst files to compile properly. [18:05] if I had complex enough docs, I'd want RST [18:05] but I don't. [18:06] Fuck 'em all. Just use LaTeX. ;) [18:06] You had the rest, now use the best. [18:06] sadly, that is a bit more expensive to parse [18:06] a bit? :) [18:07] Ruby is a bit expensive to parse [18:07] When I write in LaTeX I feel like Donald Knuth is peering over my shoulder with a ruler, waiting to smack my hand for not being correct enough. [18:08] If I don't get a warning or two out of my document I wonder if I actually ran the right program. [18:12] lol [18:12] <_stink_> hbox overfull [18:12] <_stink_> hbox overfull [18:12] <_stink_> hbox overfull [18:12] <_stink_> is what i get. [18:41] rick_h_, http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/laptops-for-ubuntu-cant-make-up-my-mind/1541/3?u=jorge [18:47] looking [19:03] jcastro: replied...and should have sent my book to the copy editor first heh [20:09] Got some reasonable success getting arch installed on my Macbook Air (2013). Still having some funky wifi issues. In order to connect to Wifi, I need to run "ip link set dev eth0 down" then "netctl start eth0-". It then connects to the network, but not the internet. If I put the computer to sleep then wake it back up, it will connect to the internet. Any got any insight as to why it behaves [20:09] this way? [20:10] not picking up dns by default? [20:10] dhcp that is [20:10] Doesn't appear to [20:10] and a wake up grabs it [20:10] check out dhclient [20:10] long ago I had to manually run that to pick up dhcp info [20:10] Yep. I've reboot my machine and tested it 4 times. It consistantly does the same thing. [20:13] Ok, that looks promising. I'll test that out. On a related note, I also finally got dropbox working. The AUR package still is broken but wget it directly from dropbox and manually running the daemon works. [20:15] Now I just need to figure out my ruby environment (for jekyll) and my Django setup and I'll finally be up and running on it. [20:52] mathomastech: you can make sure your netctl profile has IP=dhcp in it [20:53] also maybe look at starting/enabling the dhcpd daemon via systemctl [21:09] apparently some dumbass forgot to properly set up equipment before plugging it into the WMU network and wiped out all of the campus vlans [21:20] the fact that your network is vulnerable to an attack like that is the problem. [21:20] mrgoodcat: how did it happen? [21:28] not quite sure [21:28] i'm not there [21:30] 14:52 <+typo> tl;dr he forgot to set a value in one piece of equipment, plugged it into the network, and wiped all the VLANS on westerns network [21:35] lol, western. [21:35] i read WMU as WSU [21:35] still, if the network was vulnerable to that, that is pretty bad. [21:35] oh, but a net op did it. [21:36] so he like set the CDP password or something? [21:36] does CDP even have a passwrod? [21:59] i'm not sure what he did exactly [21:59] i used to work there which is how i know this much [21:59] but the people i know that still work there aren't being very forthcoming with information [22:00] i think most people over there still don't know exactly what happened === mrgoodcat is now known as redacted