[00:00] <diego_1> i use ubuntu never with firewall
[00:03] <basketball> anyone how do i sync the caps indicator on the keyboard between usb keyboard and laptop keyboard
[00:04] <potential> "Firewall is active and enabled on system startup"
[00:05] <lolihunter> jo sense
[00:05] <stunts513> anybody know why the "disable touchpad while typing" option wouldnt be working when checked off?
[00:06] <lolihunter> hello, i want ask a little question about programming in c and c++. because idk where to ask. Can anybody explain me why the hellow world program is compiled bigger in c++ as in C?
[00:07] <basketball> anyone how do i sync the caps indicator on the keyboard between usb keyboard and laptop keyboard
[00:08] <diego_1> same question here
[00:16] <jon__> i need help my laptop won't change brightness
[00:18] <reza4ka> whats up people
[00:18] <iter> when issuing the command 'apt-get -y remove --purge resolvconf' I get an ncurses popup recommending a reboot. Is there a way to prevent this? Reason being I want to remove it in preseed late_command
[00:19] <potential> http://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu/
[00:19] <unclescratchie> how do memtest? using Ubuntu 12.04.4
[00:19] <potential> I still don't know if my private data is safe in Ubuntu.
[00:20] <sensenmann> Why it souldnt?
[00:20] <potential> Told you, I am the president of the USA, I am under heavy siege from all sides.
[00:21] <HackerII> looks like you have reached your potential
[00:22] <potential> lol
[00:22] <sensenmann> i think openbsd is safer for you then
[00:22] <unclescratchie> can anyone tell me how to test memory?
[00:22] <iter> memtest boot iso
[00:23] <potential> No no, I don't want an alternative to Ubuntu. I want to make sure I am using a secure software for my creative work.
[00:24] <iter> so you're going to believe someone on IRC?
[00:24] <potential> Ubuntu. "Humanity to others" woah...
[00:25] <potential> What a statement.
[00:25] <iter> I see, you are just concern-trolling
[00:25] <rypervenche> potential: Doesn't mean it's any good.
[00:25] <potential> I am.
[00:26] <potential> You got a problem with me, iter? I mean, something personal, did I insulted you?
[00:26] <bazhang> !ot | potential
[00:26] <potential> I am talking about Ubuntu itself. And I want support for it.
[00:27] <potential> I mean, if that isn't too much to ask. Please.
[00:27] <rypervenche> potential: What's up? What can we help you with?
[00:28] <diego_1> this is your support
[00:29] <jon__> yeah about that brightness question... it won't change no matter what i do. dconf, xbacklight my laptops fn keys it is always low. This is after a crash where i dropped my laptop
[00:30] <HackerII> jon__  may not be a software issue any longer.
[00:30] <jon__> mmmm
[00:31] <HackerII> dropped laptops arent like motel 6
[00:31] <jon__> that makes sense because i am hooked up to an external monitor and it works fine
[00:31] <jon__> it's a thinkpad though and it was my first drop :(
[00:32] <jon__> the thing about it is that when i run out of power on ubuntu, on next startup it has low brightness as well
[00:32] <jon__> the only difference is that the bright fn keys don't have an effect
[00:33] <iter> is the boot splash screen dim?
[00:33] <iter> the lenovo one
[00:33] <jon__> yeah
[00:33] <iter> not related to softwar then
[00:33] <iter> sorry
[00:33] <jon__> can't see the bios either because it's too dim and won't work with external montiro
[00:33] <jon__> so there is nothing i can do?
[00:33] <jj__> i have a question, i have done a ton of research and can't come up with anything..  when using Simple Screen Recorded, i can't seem to record from multiple sources like desktop sounds and mic. I tried using Jack and every known thing i can try.
[00:33] <iter> well there is plenty you can do on the hardware front
[00:34] <jon__> what like replace the monitor? dunno if i would do that
[00:34] <iter> it may be as simple as one of the power leads to the backlight came loose when you dropped it
[00:34] <jon__> it's like 6 years old so no warranty
[00:34] <iter> but yeah it's take apart time if you want to fix it
[00:34] <diego_1> install indicator-brightness
[00:35] <jon__> tried that diego
[00:35] <iter> you can always boot from another livecd to check if it's software
[00:35] <jon__> yeah but i dunno how to boot form it because i can't see when its on the splash screen
[00:36] <jj__> anyone know how to record from multiple audio sources?
[00:37] <jon__> alright well ima log off i got my usb installer and i'll try to boot fom it
[00:37] <jon__> ty
[00:37] <diego_1> guys whats new in 1404??
[00:38] <somsip> !14.04 | diego_1
[00:38] <diego_1> ok
[00:39] <jj__> will 14.04 make it easier to record from multiple audio sources? lol
[00:40] <potential> How many sources do you want to record, jj__?
[00:40] <jj__> my mic and desktop sounds
[00:41] <jj__> potential, is it ok if i wisp you?
[00:49] <jj__> anyone have any clue how to record multiple audio sources at once?
[00:55] <n-iCe> which one should run faster, lubuntu or xubuntu? thanks
[00:55] <daftykins> the former
[00:56] <jeeves_moss> what is the "correct
[00:56] <potential> How can I make sure my data is kept private?
[00:57] <jeeves_moss> what is the "correct" way of mounting a remote windows admin shate (c$, etc), from FSTAB on startup?
[00:57] <somsip> potential: the question is too general. You need to be more specific
[00:58] <somsip> !fstab | jeeves_moss (this provides some information)
[00:59] <potential> Ok. What are the names of the people who wrote the code of the software I am using right now, and how do I know they are not snooping on me?
[00:59] <somsip> potential: download the source code for the packages you are referring to and check it for yourself.
[00:59] <potential> Hmm.
[01:00] <iter> when issuing the command 'apt-get -y remove --purge resolvconf' I get an ncurses popup recommending a reboot. Is there a way to prevent this? Reason being I want to remove it in preseed late_command
[01:00] <iter> regarding this question ^^^^
[01:01] <iter> the answer is to issue in-target sed '/db_input/d' /var/lib/dpkg/info/resolvconf.postrm > /var/lib/dpkg/info/resolvconf.postrm \
[01:01] <potential> Ok. Does the source code tells the name of the people who wrote it, and if so, how do I know they are real people?
[01:01] <somsip> potential: these question are outside the scope of this channel. Tey #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <somsip> *Try
[01:02] <potential> "Ubuntu: Humanity to others." They should add: If you ask for a humane response in the IRC, please go to offtopic.
[01:03] <iter> more like 'if you are trolling in the channel you will be brushed off'
[01:03] <somsip> potential: if you have a support issue like 'this is not working' or 'how do I do this', then this channel is the place. General discussions belong in offtopic. Simple as that
[01:03] <potential> My concern is genuine.
[01:03] <iter> politely in fact
[01:03] <tripelb> My panel icin for networking vanished and I would like it back.  (also adobe upgrade wont load, repeatedly) 12.04 Gnome-classic 12.04  asking again after another half hour.
[01:04] <somsip> potential: then #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to ask your question. simple as that
[01:04] <zztw> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on an asus zenbook and I'm getting an error after drive selection with the title and message "??? ???". what does this mean?
[01:05] <zztw> clicking OK does not make the error message go away, nor does the x on the title bar
[01:06] <zztw> it has focus so i can't go forward or back in the install wizard
[01:06] <potential> You ask for privacy, and all of sudden, you are Trolling.
[01:07] <somsip> potential: Or you could take the polite request to go to offtopic and do just that. If you repeatedly ignore that, then you are trolling for effect.
[01:07] <somsip> zztw: did you checksum the iso?
[01:08] <Pessimist> potential, go to various svns and check which code of line was introduced by whom. Git has a command just for that: git blame. If you don't trust ubuntu maintainers then you can install something like gentoo where you will *have* to compile and maintain everything yourself. Good luck.
[01:08] <oRaCuLaR13> hello
[01:08] <potential> Hello everyone, I am having a problem. I can't make sure my data is kept private in Ubuntu, can anyone help me? Thank you in advance.
[01:10] <oRaCuLaR13> leave
[01:11] <somsip> potential: you've been given the answer to that question already. Check the source code. More in-depth discussions are offtopic. You are showing yourself to be a troll by ignoring this
[01:11] <systemd0wn> Having some issues with /boot being out of space. I have removed the old kernels, the used space is only 42MB... But only 12MB of free space. It doesn't add up.
[01:12] <iter> du -sh /boot/*
[01:12] <sensenmann_> cleared apt-get and aptitude logs?
[01:12] <iter> drill down manually to see where the disk is being used
[01:13] <potential> I am a genuinely concern user of this software. Privacy is a matter which should concern everybody. Assuming the answer is "check the code by yourself" denotes lack of touch with the majority of the users.
[01:13] <systemd0wn> iter, it only adds up to what I said.
[01:14] <potential> I would appreciate if you stopped calling me a "Troll".
[01:14] <iter> systemd0wn: is your boot partition small? what size is listed under df -h ?
[01:14] <somsip> potential: You have valid points. Further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic. Please do not troll this support channel with offtopic questions.
[01:14] <systemd0wn> 228MB
[01:14] <oRaCuLaR13> hello
[01:15] <somsip> oRaCuLaR13: Do you have a support issue?
[01:15] <Guest28896> hi! i'm gonzo
[01:15] <basketball> anyone how do i sync the caps indicator on the keyboard between usb keyboard and laptop keyboard
[01:15] <Guest28896> where can I find a spanish network for elementaryOS useres
[01:15] <Guest28896> ?
[01:15] <somsip> !alis | Guest28896
[01:16] <Guest28896> well?
[01:16] <somsip> Guest28896: use the alis bot to search for channels, as it says above ^^^
[01:17] <systemd0wn> iter, it says its full when I go to upgrade.
[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
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[01:17] <iter> systemd0wn: and du -sh /boot/* only adds up to 42MB?
[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
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[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:17] <tripelb> dissqpointmet. this is not the first day I aaked. Not the second
[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
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[01:17] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:17] <somsip> !ops | persico` (floodbot is dead?)
[01:18] <basketball> ! es | Percy-
[01:18] <tripelb> more than 3 ..
[01:18] <basketball> ! ops
[01:18] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
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[01:18] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:18] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
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[01:18] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:18] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:18] <persico`> hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hijos de puta hola hi
[01:18] <basketball> thanks jpds
[01:18] <jpds> De nada.
[01:18] <iter> systemd0wn: you may need to fsck that partition
[01:19] <iter> sudo shutdown -rF now
[01:19] <basketball> jpds,  where are floodbots
[01:19] <jpds> basketball: Don't know, I'm afraid.
[01:19] <UltimateNate> Woah, Crapflood
[01:20] <rww> basketball: they retired to Hawaii
[01:20] <iter> nah, botswana
[01:20] <basketball> rww,  how do they unretire
[01:20] <rww> basketball: they don't
[01:20] <Logan_> rww: why isn't LjL here?
[01:20] <rww> Logan_: because he doesn't want to be, I assume
[01:21] <Logan_> that's a pretty good reason :P
[01:21] <UltimateNate> umm persico- is still here
[01:21] <rww> UltimateNate: *shrug* they can't talk
[01:21] <UltimateNate> Why not?
[01:21] <ishanyx> they have the same IP so the ban on the one that got kickbanned applies to the other one too
[01:21] <cuete> Greets, I'm having a bitch of a time installing ubuntu from Unetbootin onto a Acer Aspire One E1-510-4487
[01:21] <rww> UltimateNate: jpds banned their hostname. bans prevent talking
[01:21] <basketball> how do i syncronizing the caps lock num lock and scroll lock status of your two keyboards
[01:22] <cuete> Anyone have any experience with this?
[01:22] <cuete> Google has nothing, and I'm lost.
[01:23] <twiceaday> hi all
[01:24] <twiceaday> I have problem with fact that as python on ubuntu is 2.7 installed then i also have python2.5 installed
[01:24] <somsip> twiceaday: in what way is that a problem?
[01:24] <twiceaday> i need to run some .py file with python2.5 but it says that requests module is not installed
[01:24] <cuete> does it say which module?
[01:24] <twiceaday> and i have no idea how to install requests module in other way than apt-get install python-requests
[01:25] <EsotericForest> cuete what kind of problems are you having? UNetBootin always gave me UEFI-related troubles so I used Rufus (which I think is basically the same software) to make my images
[01:25] <twiceaday> but that installs them to the 2.7 python
[01:25] <EsotericForest> It allowed me to specify if I was dealing with UEFI or not
[01:25] <twiceaday> and i need to get that module to python2.5
[01:25] <somsip> twiceaday: virtualenv might be something worth looking at for you
[01:25] <twiceaday> cuete: it states requests
[01:25] <twiceaday> cuete: name of modules is requests
[01:25] <potential> How can I trust the developers of Ubuntu?
[01:25] <jpds> potential: You can't.
[01:26] <cuete> potential: you can't
[01:26] <cuete> lol
[01:26] <butcho_> ahoj
[01:26] <jpds> twiceaday: Right, I think they understood s/requests/requested/ ;-)
[01:26] <EsotericForest> you can't the way you can't trust anyone else haha
[01:26] <cuete> twiceaday: I'd google to see if its part of a larger package
[01:26] <cuete> then sudo apt-get
[01:26] <EsotericForest> Depends do you trust them at least more than Microsoft? :P
[01:26] <cuete> EsotericForest: I've used unetbootin for lots of things before, but the only boot option in bios is UEFI
[01:26] <cuete> I don't  have much experience with other formats
[01:26] <butcho_> czech
[01:27] <cuete> русский :D
[01:27] <cuete> sometimes haha
[01:27] <potential> I knew a Microsoft developer once. A very nice person.
[01:27] <EsotericForest> cuete your BIOS doesn't let you fall back to "Legacy BIOS" or something called like that?
[01:27] <twiceaday> this is also problem
[01:27] <twiceaday> http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/community/faq/
[01:27] <cuete> EsotericForest: No, just UEFI
[01:27] <cuete> so rufus?
[01:27] <twiceaday> 2.6 is first that is supported
[01:28] <EsotericForest> Aww :/ well that would be something that may be an issue. Yeah, Rufus is very similiar to UNetBootIn. I think you need to pull your own ISOs though, can't remember 100%
[01:28] <EsotericForest> instead of using their auto-downloader
[01:28] <basketball> bazhang, how do i syncronizing the caps lock num lock and scroll lock status of your two keyboards
[01:28] <EsotericForest> or rather, typically its faster to pull an image via bittorrent compared to http
[01:28] <cuete> pull: as in find the ISO?
[01:28] <EsotericForest> yeah download it
[01:28] <EsotericForest> sorry
[01:28] <potential> So one can't trust Ubuntu developers. Can we say this is a definitive statement for the mundane user?
[01:28] <cuete> I already have the images locally
[01:29] <cuete> potential: for the mundane user: they don't care
[01:29] <jpds> potential: Can you trust the person that made your BIOS?
[01:29] <jpds> potential: Your hardware?
[01:29] <cuete> I'd imagine only security minded individuals need worry.
[01:29] <potential> cuete, I think you are wrong.
[01:29] <EsotericForest> potention trust them in what regard? to make a quality product or to not be colluding with law enforcement? plus unfortunately I agree with jpds the average user doesn't care
[01:29] <cuete> ^
[01:29] <EsotericForest> cuete then you are all set for Rufus, it works just like UNetBootin
[01:30] <cuete> EsotericForest: Sweeeeeeetness
[01:30] <pablo__> wtf
[01:30] <potential> The average user doesn't care for privacy. Interesting statement.
[01:31] <EsotericForest> cuete i'm going afk for awhile but report back in here with results. maybe it will help maybe it won't, not being able to get rid of UEFI is a problem but Rufus should be able to make bootloaders that can handle it
[01:31] <jpds> !ot | potential
[01:31] <pablo__> linux is cool but i want that new one for gamming
[01:31] <cuete> EsotericForest: Word. I'll stick around.
[01:31] <potential> Privacy is off-topic for Ubuntu?
[01:31] <EsotericForest> potential I don't think they that don't care its just the idea of online privacy is too abstract -- but I don't want to break the rules too much, we can discuss this in offtopic another time
[01:31] <darius93> whats a good firewall i would use other than ufw?
[01:31] <jpds> potential: It is offtopic for a support channel.
[01:31] <EsotericForest> too abstract for the average PC user*
[01:31] <jpds> darius93: Well, ufw uses iptables, so ...
[01:32] <EsotericForest> anyways, evening all see ya later
[01:32] <darius93> jpds: well something simple i should say
[01:32] <jpds> darius93: ufw is as simple as it's going to get.
[01:32] <iter> nftables?
[01:32] <cuete> EsotericForest: Can Rufus run on ubuntu without localisation?
[01:32] <iter> darius93: shorewall is quite simple
[01:38] <jpds> darius93: Then again, iptables is simply once you know it
[01:38]  * jpds runs away.
[01:38] <darius93> well I know ip tables. Its simple, but im trying to slim it down abit.
[01:40] <zztw> somsip: i just did and it checks out 369a1f604df30e097f063829b27c39941a26e5771c53b35aa9ea0e0e0abb3a56 via http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/SHA256SUMS
[01:40] <potential> How can I trust the developers of Ubuntu?
[01:43] <potential> It looks like the "average user" of Ubuntu can't trust the developers of their OS.
[01:44] <uchoby> I'm trying to get xrdp working on my Ubuntu so I can connect from my Win box. I used the X11RDP-0-Matic and it seemed to finish OK, but after a restart on Ubuntu when I try "sudo service xrdp start" I get an error, no such file...  for libcommon.so.0. What should I do?
[01:44] <ideopathic> i'm having issues installing avahi-daemon and avahi-utils on 12.04 LTS server.
[01:45] <ideopathic> any suggestions on this?
[01:45] <potential> I've asked for a certain way to check the integrity of their "open software" is to be a programmer.
[01:45] <somsip> zztw: fair enough. It's always worth asking, just in case.
[01:45] <potential> I get the usual answer.
[01:46] <potential> "Can you 'retrofeedback' your hardware?"
[01:46] <rww> potential: I think jpds already told you this is offtopic for here?
[01:46] <potential> Off-topic is way too off-topic.
[01:47] <somsip> rww: he's been politely informed of this off and on for about an hour now...
[01:47] <potential> But I will try it now.
[01:47] <rww> potential: whether or not #ubuntu-offtopic suits you is not really relevant to what is and isn't suitable for here
[01:47] <potential> oh
[01:48] <potential> ok.
[01:50] <potential> Privacy isn't a subject of discussion for the Ubuntu IRC.
[01:50]  * rww sighs
[01:50] <potential> Privacy is an off-topic topic for Ubuntu.
[01:50] <rww> potential: cut it out
[01:50] <basketball> http://askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[01:51] <gandaliter> Hi. I'm looking for some help debugging a repeating crash on an Ubuntu server. I've been setting up postfix and dovecot, and occasionally when I connect to imap or smtp, the server crashes (responds only to pings). I haven't been able to find anything in the logs after rebooting, although I admit I don't know exactly where to look. Exceptions are sequences of '^@' chars in the logs occasionally. Where should I start looking?
[01:51] <usr13_> potential: Discuss it on #ubuntu-offtopic But if you have a problem with Ubuntu, use another OS.
[01:52] <potential> Ok. So far I've been told that if I have a problem with Ubuntu, I should use another OS.
[01:52] <usr13_> gandaliter: "Only to pings"?  It does not accept ssh connection?
[01:52] <potential> Nice.
[01:53] <gandaliter> usr13_: No, no ssh, no http, no imap etc. the existing ssh connections don't notice they're broken until they timeout a while later.
[01:54] <gandaliter> usr13_: In one case the filesystem was corrupted by the crash
[01:55] <usr13_> gandaliter: Sounds like some kind of sleep mode of some sort.  Well from what you just said, it may be that the HD is having problems....
[01:55] <basketball> rww,
[01:55] <usr13_> gandaliter: Check the hard drive health.
[01:55] <basketball> rww, http://askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[01:56] <gandaliter> usr13_: it's a VPS, so I'd guess they're pretty much on top of that, and I'd imagine it's in hardware raid anyway.
[01:57] <gandaliter> usr13_: if it continues responding to ping that means that at least some of the networking stack, and thus some of the kernel, is still running, so it seems odd that I can't find any logs of anything. I guess if the filesystem crashes there's nowhere to write logs to
[01:57] <usr13_> gandaliter: Have you run a port scan against it?
[01:57] <potential> As I politely was told, I took my off-topic conversation to the off-topic channel.
[01:59] <cuete> EsotericForest: Rufus is working its magic, lets see if the bios will spit up ubuntu :D
[01:59] <gandaliter> usr13_: no, but I'd be very surprised if there'd be any response to anything except ping
[02:01] <gandaliter> usr13_: the crash only ever occurs while making a new connection using imap or smtp (or at least on nothing else that I've noticed), so I don't think it can be a random disk thing. The problem is mostly that I don't know how to track down what is causing it.
[02:02] <profligacy> Have you guys ever tried Ubuntu?
[02:02] <profligacy> * wrong window
[02:02] <ldcicconi> anyone know how I can get my sound controls back in 13.10?
[02:02] <usr13_> gandaliter: Maybe it is a RAM problem.  YOu ever run top or htop on it while it's happening?
[02:03] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys can anyone help me with my cronjob? (I current have it to execute shell script every 30 min like so, 0,30 * * * * sudo -s /freeupram.sh) I have a command inside my shell script that writes to a log on when the last time it executes, when I execute it with the exact same parameters as I gave cron it writes to log file but when cron executes it, it does not write to file.
[02:03] <cuete> ugh, no dice.
[02:03] <somsip> Demon_Jester: the use of sudo in the cronjob is the problem as it expects a password
[02:03] <cuete> Is this the trend in computers nowadays? Take away the option to install a different OS?
[02:03] <cuete> the fuck?
[02:04] <somsip> !language | cuete
[02:04] <cuete> Whoa, my b.
[02:04] <gandaliter> usr13_: I haven't tried that. It's not that easy to reproduce the problem. What would I be looking for in htop? What kind of RAM problem would be triggered by the same thing each time?
[02:05] <cuete> EsotericForest: No dice, still playing with it.
[02:06] <Demon_Jester> somsip: it executes everything in the shell script just fine except writing to the log (the command I have that need sudo -s is echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches, and it doesnt ask for a password and the command to write to a log doesnt even need sudo.)
[02:06] <usr13_> Demon_Jester: Change 0,30  to 30
[02:06] <Demon_Jester> usr13_: I had it as that earlier and it doesnt even execute the script.
[02:07] <jeeves_moss> usr13_, are oyu any good at FSTAB mounting issues?
[02:07] <jpds> potential: Dude, go and read the source code yourself.
[02:07] <usr13_> jeeves_moss: Usually. What is your problem?
[02:07] <rww> jpds: we moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:08] <Demon_Jester> usr13_: from my understand 30 means every hour at xx:30 like 5:30 6:30 where as 0,30 is 6:00 6:30 7:00 which is what I want.
[02:08] <jpds> Ah, cool.
[02:08] <cuete> so I enabled the boot options menu from bios, and my drive isn't even showing up.
[02:08] <gandaliter> usr13_: I've just caused it to happen again while watching htop. htop has frozen showing nothing unusual
[02:08] <jeeves_moss> usr13_, I can't get any of my windows admin shares to mount.  It's coming back with "bad block" when I use CIFS.
[02:08] <somsip> Demon_Jester: http://askubuntu.com/questions/173924/how-to-run-a-cron-job-using-the-sudo-command
[02:08] <zztw> how do i file a bug about the ubuntu installer?
[02:09] <usr13_> jeeves_moss: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[02:09] <rww> !bug
[02:09] <jeeves_moss> usr13_, I PMed it to you
[02:09] <rww> zztw: see above. the package is "ubiquity"
[02:09] <zztw> rww: not helpful. I can't install ubuntu so I can't use it's command line tools.
[02:10] <rww> zztw: see the link in the factoid, then
[02:10] <zztw> okay thanks rww
[02:10] <rww> zztw: although it's buried, so...     http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug?no-redirect
[02:15] <riceandbeans> can anyone tell me why the hell open-vm-tools requires xserver among a million other dependencies?
[02:16] <potential> What is a "Secret Court Order"?
[02:17] <somsip> at *last*!
[02:24] <FuuqUmiist> is this true?? "Hundreds of open source packages, including the Red Hat, Ubuntu, and Debian distributions of Linux, are susceptible to attacks that circumvent the most widely used technology to prevent eavesdropping on the Internet, thanks to an extremely critical vulnerability in a widely used cryptographic code library." http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/
[02:25] <alazyworkaholic> I'm having a filesystem problem. When I run "mount -a" I get this "mount: special device UUID="147e534f-d105-458f-a5af-1789b5da7f5b does not exist" even though running "sudo mount /dev/sdd7 /mnt/88GB" does not, while I have in fstab this entry: "UUID="147e534f-d105-458f-a5af-1789b5da7f5b /mnt/88GB xfs     auto,noatime,x-gvfs-show 0 0" This doesn't make any sense to me!
[02:26] <riceandbeans> FuuqUmiist: yes
[02:27] <riceandbeans> turns out Windows is the secure OS
[02:27] <rww> FuuqUmiist: only if you aren't up to date on security updates; it got patched already
[02:28] <agent_white> Test
[02:28] <riceandbeans> rww: it got patched yesterday, but most and I mean MOST people and companies don't patch things on the day a patch is released
[02:28] <riceandbeans> I still have CentOS 4.4 boxes running
[02:28] <riceandbeans> 5.2 runnig
[02:29] <riceandbeans> 6.1 running
[02:29] <riceandbeans> Ubuntu 10 boxes going
[02:29] <rww> not sure how this contradicts my point
[02:29] <riceandbeans> the patch is available but most people won't patch for a long time
[02:30] <riceandbeans> rww: the patch is available, most people will remain vulnerable for quite some time
[02:30] <riceandbeans> at least a month or two
[02:30] <rww> okay. and?
[02:30] <riceandbeans> desktop users maybe slightly less so than servers
[02:30] <riceandbeans> point being most people will not be safe for a while
[02:31] <rww> okay. and?
[02:31] <somsip> riceandbeans: so the OS is secure, but users can be lax. Nothing new there. Time to move on...
[02:32] <riceandbeans> somsip: I suppose that is a technicality but yes
[02:33] <riceandbeans> somsip: ubuntu maintains backdoors and malware by default in the distribution, so I wouldn't say ubuntu is secure
[02:33] <riceandbeans> somsip: but with regard to this specific CVE, yes
[02:33]  * rww facepalms
[02:33] <somsip> riceandbeans: it's a discussion for offtopic rather than support. PLease continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to
[02:33] <riceandbeans> how is that offtopic?
[02:34] <riceandbeans> it's directly related to the distribution and packages in core
[02:34] <somsip> riceandbeans: you're being politely asked to leave this channel clear for people with support issues. Can you do that?
[02:34] <FuuqUmiist> riceandbeans so what should people do when accessing SSL or TLS
[02:34] <somsip> riceandbeans: you are welcome to continue the 'pathed/insecure' chat in offtopic.
[02:34] <somsip> *patched/insecure
[02:35] <riceandbeans> FuuqUmiist: ensure that your packages (if using a packaged distro) are up to date
[02:35] <riceandbeans> FuuqUmiist: be aware the package number might not reflect the same thing as the CVE where they say version ### has the patch
[02:35] <riceandbeans> it might be versions behind and have -### or something
[02:35] <FuuqUmiist> riceandbeans the problem doesn't sound like a quick fix
[02:35] <riceandbeans> but check your distro and their security advisory to ensure that your versions matches it
[02:36] <riceandbeans> FuuqUmiist: really? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:36] <riceandbeans> that's about it
[02:36] <riceandbeans> assuming you're using something debian based
[02:36] <riceandbeans> ubuntu being debian based as well if you don't know
[02:39] <riceandbeans> FuuqUmiist: as long as you're using a package based distribution, you should be fine with a simple command to patch it
[02:40] <riceandbeans> I don't know if and where ubuntu lists their CVEs, but you should check it if it exists
[02:41] <rww> http://security.ubuntu.com/
[02:41] <riceandbeans> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[02:42] <riceandbeans> rww: so is ubuntu 14 going to have systemd?
[02:42] <riceandbeans> default I mean
[02:42] <rww> riceandbeans: 14.04 won't. i expect it'll be in the repositories for 14.10, not sure if default
[02:43] <riceandbeans> I'm surprised it isn't in your repos yet
[02:43] <riceandbeans> it's default in debian sid
[02:43] <riceandbeans> since you guys branch off debian sid, I'd expect it sooner rather than later
[02:44] <rww> riceandbeans: got to undo all the stuff that got changed for upstart first
[02:50] <FuuqUmiist> this might help people http://lwn.net/Vulnerabilities/589237/
[02:52] <riceandbeans> rww: right
[02:52] <riceandbeans> rww: that sucks
[02:52] <riceandbeans> rww: there's always BSDs, that's where I'm headed
[02:55] <FuuqUmiist> riceandbeans i heard linux is more secure, there are websites stating that openBSD is worse than linux when it comes to security
[02:55] <somsip> FuuqUmiist: that's definitely a question for the offtopic channel rather than here please
[02:58] <thinknow> Hi, anyone know where transmission torrent client is located when you "Choose an application" that the torrent should use in firefox? Which map and what is the name on the app?
[02:58] <thinknow> thnx:)
[02:58] <Prophecy_Kage> it may be under internet?
[02:58] <rww> thinknow: /usr/bin/transmission, i expect
[02:59] <unclescratchie> need major help with tar.biz2 file....dont know how to install   PLEAS HELP  thanks
[02:59] <somsip> unclescratchie: where did you download it from?
[02:59] <unclescratchie> somsip:  it is Blender from blender.org
[02:59] <thinknow> thnx rww :) appreciate it, correct! :)
[03:00] <somsip> !info blender
[03:00] <unclescratchie> sorry  instructions are confusing to me
[03:00] <somsip> unclescratchie: installing from the repo would be recommended. If you need help installing from the source you downloaded, you need to get support from blender
[03:01] <unclescratchie> repo is instlling 64 bit,, i have 32  bit machine
[03:01] <unclescratchie> it keeps crashing
[03:02] <unclescratchie> i downloaded the 32 bit tar but I dont know how to install from terminal
[03:03] <pack^> why download source when you can just click and install?
[03:03] <somsip> !compiling | unclescratchie (this can be difficult...)
[03:04] <unclescratchie> ubottu:   I have and I dont understand thats why i came here
[03:05] <unclescratchie> there must be someone here who can help
[03:05] <pack^> why not just install the one ubuntu offers?
[03:05] <arayaq> unclescratchie: can you clarify your question?
[03:05] <unclescratchie> because it is installing 64 bit, I have a 32 bit machine
[03:06] <arayaq> unclescratchie: how are you installing it?
[03:06] <unclescratchie> I first installed from synaptic
[03:06] <somsip> unclescratchie: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:06] <unclescratchie> 12.4
[03:07] <somsip> k
[03:07] <unclescratchie> precise
[03:07] <unclescratchie> lts
[03:07] <arayaq> unclescratchie: and why it didnt work when you installed from synaptic?
[03:07] <unclescratchie> 64 bit
[03:07] <somsip> unclescratchie: but you said before you have 32 bit.... So which is correct?
[03:08] <unclescratchie> I have 32 bit synaptic installs 64 bit,,,,,dont know why
[03:08] <arayaq> unclescratchie: if you have a 32bit system installed then synaptic will download only 32 bits packages
[03:08] <arayaq> unclescratchie: I'm afraid there is some confusion going on here
[03:09]  * pack^ wonders what processor unclescratchie is running in his computer.
[03:11] <DanaG> I'm getting an odd kernel panic (or rather, TWO kernel panics, thanks to crashkernel) on shutdown.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7020125/
[03:12] <somsip> unclescratchie: so...if you have a 64 bit CPU and have installed a 64 bit OS, the package installer will only install 64 bit packages and you should be able to install blender from the official repo. You have said you have a 32 bit machine, but also that you have 12.4 precise 64 bit installed. So this is why we are confused.
[03:12] <RainMan28> Hi all. I'm looking at Ubuntu Server and on the ubuntu download page it says that "you can rely on Ubuntu Server and its five years of guaranteed free upgrades". On the actual download page it says 12.04 is only supported until 2017?
[03:12] <unclescratchie> yes I am confused too  was hoping to get unconfused here
[03:12] <unclescratchie> hang on  \
[03:12] <unclescratchie> AMD Sempron(tm) SI-42
[03:12] <unclescratchie> before you say it wont work  it did last week, had to reinstall os  now it wont work
[03:12] <unclescratchie> I did memcheck and everything ok
[03:12] <unclescratchie> no no no----------I have a 32 bit systm with precise 32 installed
[03:13] <somsip> RainMan28: it came out in 2012. 2012+5=2017
[03:13] <RainMan28> somsip: ahh doh, sorry, kept seeing the 12 and thought it meant december for some reason.
[03:14] <unclescratchie> the program opens, when i try to manupulate things the program crashes
[03:14] <pack^> unclescratchie: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Mobile%20Sempron%20SI-42%20-%20SMSI42SAM12GG.html
[03:15] <pack^> unclescratchie: 64 bit
[03:15] <somsip> unclescratchie: so pack^ is giving you a link that tells you you have a 64bit CPU
[03:15] <somsip> pack^: (laaaag)
[03:15] <unclescratchie> wrong  I have a 32 bit system
[03:15] <pack^> somsip: don't mean to but in.
[03:16] <somsip> pack^: not at all :) I'm done here anyway I think :-/
[03:16] <pack^> unclescratchie: you installed a 32 bit system on a 64 bit computer?
[03:16] <pack^> somsip: I understand. I may be.
[03:17] <somsip> unclescratchie: run blender from a terminal and look for error messages. Or if blender has a log, check in there
[03:17] <unclescratchie> stop---------------i have a 32 bit laptop...........get rid of the 64 bit..............the program keeps loading 64 bit  and it is crashing
[03:18] <pack^> unclescratchie: you won't listen. You can't be helped.
[03:19] <unclescratchie> you are not listning............i dont have a 64 bit anything,,,,,,,,,,
[03:19] <somsip> unclescratchie: You have a 64 bit CPU. But otherwise, just what pack^ said. http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Mobile-Sempron-SI-42-Notebook-Processor.34794.0.html
[03:19] <unclescratchie> i dont have a 64 bit anything !!!!!!11
[03:20] <unclescratchie> are fuckking with me on purpose???????????
[03:20] <pack^> he could open sys info and see exactly what he has installed.
[03:20] <pack^> unclescratchie: your computer is 64 bit. Or you were wrong in the processor info you pasted.
[03:20] <unclescratchie> i thought this was a place to get help   not be messed with
[03:21] <somsip> unclescratchie: we've given you two links that says that CPU is 64 bit.
[03:21] <pack^> somsip: yep. I'm done too.
[03:21] <unclescratchie> jesus christ   I DONT HAVE 64 BIT
[03:21] <unclescratchie> I HAVE A 32 BIT SYSTEM
[03:21] <Pici> unclescratchie: what does the output of   arch    say?
[03:21] <pack^> he doesn't have the learning apparantly.
[03:21] <somsip> unclescratchie: paste the output of 'uname -a'
[03:22] <Pici> It doesn't matter what the processer is, you can install the 32bit version of Ubuntu on a 64bit process and then be restricted to use 32bit apps.
[03:22] <somsip> or is that the kernel and not the CPU...I think it's the kernel. Ignore that
[03:22] <pack^> Pici: true. That is what we have been trying to find out for an hour.
[03:23] <unclescratchie> ok..............last time      i have a 32 bit laptop
[03:23] <pack^> unclescratchie: paste the info
[03:23] <unclescratchie> stop it with the 64 bit stuff please...........
[03:23] <irssi-mike> might need 32 libs
[03:23] <Pici> unclescratchie: can you please provide the output of "uname -a" ?
[03:23] <unclescratchie> dont know what uname - a is            sorry
[03:23] <somsip> Pici: user reports a 32 bit install on a 32 bit CPU that is installing 64 bit package of blender which is crashing. He started with asking about installing blender from source.
[03:24] <Pici> unclescratchie: open a terminal and type that command in, and then tell us what it says.
[03:24] <pack^> irssi-mike: yeah but he says his system just wants to install 64 bit blender and he can't understand why.
[03:24] <somsip> Pici: so we're trying to find the root problem, but struggling
[03:24] <unclescratchie> thank you
[03:24] <Pici> somsip: thanks
[03:24] <unclescratchie> command not found
[03:25] <pack^> irssi-mike: and he won't answer any questions clearly.
[03:25] <somsip> unclescratchie: I hope you get it sorted, and I'll leave with you Pici who is an op so he can be relied on to know his stuff
[03:25] <unclescratchie> im not a programmer  so u need to work with me
[03:25] <Pici> unclescratchie: what exactly did you type?
[03:25] <unclescratchie> 'uname-a'
[03:25] <rww> uname -a
[03:25] <Pici> unclescratchie: there is a space between the dash and uname
[03:26] <cuete> EsotericForest: you around?
[03:27] <pack^> hehe
[03:30] <pack^> well, wonder what is taking so long. :/
[03:30] <pack^> I see.
[03:30] <unclescratchie> sorry  got disconnected
[03:31] <unclescratchie> back,,,, lost connection
[03:31] <pack^> unclescratchie: so what was the output from uname -a  ?
[03:31] <unclescratchie> Linux unclescratchie-Satellite 3.8.0-36-generic #52~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 3 21:56:56 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[03:32] <pack^> Yep. 32 bit on a 64 bit system.
[03:32] <andytt> Hello world
[03:33] <unclescratchie> cant be,,,,,,   I have a 32 bit system,,,,,,,satellite L455d  came with Windows 32 bit,,,,,
[03:33] <unclescratchie> I have 2 gig ram and 250 gig hrad drive
[03:34] <pack^> unclescratchie: haha. Yes. And a 64 bit processor (cpu).
[03:34] <pack^> unclescratchie: you can run 32 on a 64 but not 64 on a 32.
[03:34] <unclescratchie> ok,,,,,,,  so what does that mean?
[03:35] <unclescratchie> thats why I downloaded the 32 bit from source
[03:35] <pack^> unclescratchie: you do keep it updated. Right?
[03:35] <unclescratchie> fresh reinstall  with all upgrades last night
[03:36] <pack^> You should be able to go to synaptic and download the 32 bit blender and install with no issues.
[03:36] <somsip> unclescratchie: and if it stil throws errors, run blender from the terminal and look for error messages, or check logs for error messages
[03:37] <unclescratchie> somsip.  will do that now  hang on
[03:39] <unclescratchie> how can I make sure there is no residue blender using the purge command?  I tried but I dont think I did it right
[03:39] <con-man> I'm missing the clock on the top bar... how do I restore it?
[03:40] <utug23> how to find if im using pae cpu?
[03:40] <somsip> unclescratchie: sudo apt-get purge blender, but if it's uninstalled and still left some files, they might need to be removed by hand. Ugly
[03:40] <mal10c> utug23: this may help you - http://askubuntu.com/questions/45970/missing-date-time-from-top-panel-of-unity-desktop
[03:41] <somsip> unclescratchie: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[03:41] <boze> I'm having the weirdest issue. When I edit files in PHPStorm its changing the file owner from user:www-data to user:user
[03:41] <utug23> ok thanks
[03:41] <unclescratchie> ok,  im reinstalling, will run from terminal and let you know what happens
[03:41] <somsip> utug23: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[03:41] <unclescratchie> if it crashes will something show in terminal?
[03:42] <utug23> ok i know you have a wrong massage
[03:42] <pack^> unclescratchie: yes
[03:42] <icedwater> somsip: grep pae /proc/cpuinfo works too
[03:42] <somsip> unclescratchie: dunno. I've never run blender from a terminal on a 32 bit install on a 64 bit machine. With problems.
[03:42] <utug23> it works on debian to or not?
[03:42] <utug23> it works on debian too or not?
[03:42] <somsip> icedwater: that it will. I get my fingers into a | grep thingy often
[03:42] <unclescratchie> unclescratchie@unclescratchie-Satellite:~$ blender
[03:42] <unclescratchie> connect failed: No such file or directory
[03:42] <unclescratchie> Writing: /tmp/blender.crash.txt
[03:42] <unclescratchie> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:42] <somsip> utug23: no idea. This is ubuntu support
[03:43] <somsip> unclescratchie: so you have a crash text to look at to see what it tells you
[03:43] <icedwater> Just noticed that, so :P
[03:43] <utug23> ok thanks four your comment!!!
[03:43] <unclescratchie> how do I get to the text?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> utug23: Run terminal command -> cat /proc/cpuinfo <- in the flags field look for "pae" .
[03:44] <somsip> unclescratchie: in a terminal 'less /tmp/blender.crash.txt' then naviagate with space, b for back, and q to quit
[03:44] <utug23> ok
[03:44] <pack^> or browse to /tmp/blender and open with gedit if running ubuntu 12.04
[03:46] <lotus-blade> i have a 32bit compiled program that needs libcurl.so.3 on a 64bit install of 13.10. any ideas on how to get this to work?
[03:46] <unclescratchie> pack,  ok,   sorry  dont know how to do that,  can I get there from home folder?
[03:46] <pack^> unclescratchie: yeah.
[03:48] <unclescratchie> pack:  got it.....what do I look for
[03:48] <pack^> unclescratchie: blender.crash.txt
[03:48] <somsip> unclescratchie: it's in /tmp so navigate there first
[03:48] <unclescratchie> open in gedit
[03:49] <unclescratchie> i have it open in gedit
[03:49] <somsip> unclescratchie: look for any obvious information that tells you the problem.
[03:49] <pack^> somsip: you might have him to go to pastebin and paste it so you can look at it for him.
[03:50] <somsip> pack^: I don't want to see it! It can go to a blender support forum somewhere...
[03:50] <pack^> somsip: haha!  =]
[03:50] <unclescratchie> just a bunch of numbers    dont know what it means
[03:51] <somsip> unclescratchie: seriously, look for anything obvious like 'missing library' or 'file not found' or stuff like that, but ultimately you may need to post to a blender support forum and get it looked at by an expert
[03:51] <unclescratchie> nothing like that anywhere
[03:51] <somsip> unclescratchie: then I'm at my limit as to how I can help you.
[03:51] <pack^> unclescratchie: just curious. Is the blender you are working with the one from the ubuntu repository? Or is it the one you tried to compile?
[03:52] <reaga> im new to ubuntu. is there some sort of linux equvalent to system monitor? i want to view my cpu usage
[03:52] <pack^> reaga: yes
[03:52] <unclescratchie> sudo apt-get install blender
[03:52] <reaga> pack^: thats good to know.
[03:52] <pack^> unclescratchie: ok. the ubuntu repository.
[03:53] <somsip> reaga: top and htop are simple ones that may be sufficient for you
[03:53] <reaga> oh god its so ugly
[03:53] <somsip> reaga: if you want prettier updates, conky might be worth looking at
[03:53] <unclescratchie> i was thinking maybe something wrong, so thought I would try to download from blender and install,  but I dont know what to do tar file
[03:54] <reaga> :/
[03:54] <somsip> unclescratchie: you are much, much, much better served in getting the version from the repo to work. Go to the blender support forum with your crash.txt before trying to compile blender from source. Really.
[03:55] <unclescratchie> ok
[03:55] <unclescratchie> thanks   good night
[03:55] <pack^> reaga: haha. then go download one for the desktop. There are many.
[03:57] <utug23> sinong filipinno dito ?
[03:58] <somsip> !tagalog | utug23
[03:58] <utug23> oo
[03:59] <utug23> somsip
[03:59]  * somsip sighs
[03:59] <somsip> yes?
[04:00] <utug23> matroon pala tayu community dito sa pilipinas hahaha nakakatuwa naman!!!
[04:01] <somsip> utug23: magandang araw, but I don't speak any tagalog so either speak english here, or go to the #ubuntu-ph channel. Thanks
[04:02] <webzz> Is anyone really familiar with the Unity desktop/Cinnamon and workspaces?
[04:02] <utug23> taga san kaba?
[04:02] <somsip> !anyone | webzz
[04:03] <webzz> lol ok
[04:04] <webzz> when you do Window Spread, is there a way to get the windows in each workspace to spread on mouse hover like they do in cinnamon?
[04:05] <goodwin> when 14.04 will be released?
[04:05] <somsip> goodwin: April 2014 about the 17th
[04:07] <jAguAr`> i just updated my system from 12.04 to 14.04 and now i can't get either gnome or kde to boot properly... please help
[04:07] <somsip> !14.04 | jAguAr`
[04:09] <ak5> hi, I am having some issues with LVM, can someone help me out? I added a disk new disk, partitioned it, added the partition to the volume group which / is on, but / is still full :(
[04:15] <davido45> theres any body there how to fix disconnecting and slow connection of alfa awus036 adapter in ubuntu its using rtl8187 in linux
[04:16] <Stunt_> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro Retina? All of the articles I have found have been pure garbage.
[04:16] <somsip> !relatek | Stunt_
[04:16] <somsip> !realtek | davido45
[04:17] <Stunt_> !relatek
[04:17] <Stunt_> Whoops
[04:17] <Stunt_> !realtek
[04:17] <somsip> Stunt_: that was my typo, and intended for davido45...
[04:18] <roasted> is there a command to restart unity without rebooting or logging out/in
[04:18] <Stunt_> Nope I know. Just wanted to check out what the command did
[04:18] <Stunt_> First time in the ubuntu channel.
[04:18] <somsip> roasted: unity --reset
[04:18] <Bashing-om> ak5: Is your /boot partiton in '/' directory ? might check and see if it is full of old kernels (??).
[04:18] <potential> Ubuntu means "Humanity to others".
[04:19] <roasted> somsip: ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated
[04:19] <somsip> potential: if you go OT, the ops will be summoned immediately. You've been kicked already today
[04:19] <rww> ahem
[04:19] <somsip> roasted: my bad http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[04:19] <somsip> roasted: ^^^
[04:19]  * rww looks amused
[04:20] <roasted> doesnt work
[04:20] <roasted> logging out and back in bye
[04:20] <roasted> boom
[04:20] <roasted> hud works again. yayyyy
[04:22] <homefix> coming from galaxynote 3
[04:23] <homefix> finally
[04:23] <potential> I have a question regarding xchat, can I ask it here, or should I go to another channel?
[04:24] <somsip> potential: you can try here. Lots of people use it so you may get an answer
[04:24] <joey_> how do i make lubuntu not show content when moving or resizing
[04:26] <potential> Ok. When I see a message that is red colored, what does it mean?
[04:26] <potential> I mean, in xchat.
[04:26] <pranav> can there be a configuration like 'channel' for a wifi network, which prevents me from a network being scanned using wpa_cli (when all others shows up)
[04:26] <rww> potential: it means someone put your nick at the start of the line
[04:26] <rww> possibly also the middle of the line potential i'm not sure
[04:27] <potential> can you put two names in order so two people (or more) are red colored in their respective chats?
[04:27] <pack^> potential: you can go to settings and look at what colors are assigned to what things.
[04:27] <chalcedony`> ./dns host.here  works fine in hexchat on windows7 here at my new location. however it does not work in xchat on debian, here. it used to work fine at my other house. how do i get it to work?
[04:27] <pack^> win7?
[04:28] <Ben64> chalcedony`: what does "./dns host.here" do
[04:28] <potential> Thank you.
[04:28] <potential> rww: pack: are your names in red in this message?
[04:28] <chalcedony`> Ben64, translates the host to an ip
[04:28] <pack^> potential: I am not using xchat.
[04:28] <rww> (I don't use xchat)
[04:29] <Ben64> chalcedony`: wait, on debian? you know there are both xchat and debain channels, why are you asking here?
[04:29] <potential> what do you recommend?
[04:29] <pack^> potential: It would if I were using it.
[04:29] <potential> for IRC
[04:29] <pack^> potential: did you look in settings to see the colors?
[04:29] <chalcedony`> Ben64, if anyone knows they might answer.. #xchat seems very sleepy atm
[04:29] <pack^> potential: I use irssi or one of the other cli type irc. But many like the gui style.
[04:30] <Ben64> chalcedony`: look into the "/exec" command in xchat
[04:30] <potential> pack: yes, I looked in settings, I can't find the color configuration yet.
[04:30] <pack^> potential: usually on the top line under settings or preferences (can't remember)
[04:30] <Ben64> potential: you should be asking xchat questions in #xchat
[04:31] <potential> ben64: understood
[04:31] <potential> pack: rww: Thank you
[04:32] <potential> pack: rww: what are your favorite music bands?
[04:33] <jak2013> how to  open a port? on ubuntu 12.04
[04:33] <chalcedony`> Ben64, would that be like /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:34] <Ben64> chalcedony`: not at all
[04:35] <chalcedony`> ok
[04:39] <chalcedony`> EXEC [-o] dns 173-230-165-52.cable.teksavvy.com
[04:39] <chalcedony`>  sh: [-o]: not found  .. Ben64?
[04:40] <jak2013> chalcedony`, how to open a port?
[04:40] <chalcedony`> jak2013, i would like it to resolve the ip
[04:42] <Ben64> chalcedony`: seriously, this is not the channel for this
[04:43] <chalcedony`> aww Ben64 but at least you answer
[04:43] <jak2013> Ben64 any advice for me?
[04:44] <Gallomimia> hello. i seem to be having a little difficulty getting the net-install image to boot from a flash drive. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ using boot.img.gz unzipped. dd if=boot.img of=/dev/sdg is something i'm doing wrong?
[04:44] <Ben64> jak2013: ports aren't closed by default. what are you trying to do
[04:44] <cane99> ;-)
[04:45] <dupingping_> Hi
[04:45] <HyperFoxIII> Hey all!
[04:46] <afraz> hello
[04:47] <JustFunds> i need a bulk seller for cPanel pls
[04:48] <Ben64> JustFunds: this channel is for ubuntu support only. not sure if there is an applicable channel for what you want. /msg alis
[04:49] <jak2013> open the port 3306
[04:49] <somsip> jak2013: are you running mysql?
[04:50] <ming> yo
[04:53] <pack^> jak2013: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11874518/open-port-3306-in-ubuntu-12-04-to-allow-connections-to-mysql-from-any-ip
[04:53] <clone2> mac puppy rocks
[04:54] <ming> nah
[04:54] <ming> hung for is the best system
[04:54] <ming> *fot
[04:54] <ming> damn auto correct
[04:55] <andytt> Hello
[04:55] <andytt> Are u lonely ?
[04:56] <andytt> ....
[04:56] <rww> andytt: #ubuntu is the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux, not a chat channel.
[04:56] <andytt> Just kidding
[04:56] <guesting738> How can I enable hidpi on 14.04?
[04:56] <ming> who me?
[04:56] <somsip> !14.04 | guesting738
[04:56] <rww> guesting738: be patient and wait in #ubuntu+1 for someone to respond to your question, thanks
[04:56] <ming> is this an ad for something?
[04:57] <somsip> ming: do you have a support question?
[04:57] <guesting738> rww: No one is talking there and it's extremely filled, so I thought there might have been a connection problem
[04:57] <ming> no I'm here offering support
[04:57] <clone2> ming i need cash
[04:57] <somsip> ming: great. Best to avoid responding to the trolls then
[04:57] <ming> same
[04:58] <clone2> trolls seem to be anyone you dont like
[04:59] <potential> somsip: what is your advice for trolls?
[04:59] <somsip> clone2: Anyone who is offtopic and continues to be offtopic after being asked politely to take it elsewhere.
[04:59] <clone2> we just call them wankers
[05:00] <somsip> !language | clone2
[05:00] <clone2> call someone a trolll is offence
[05:01] <clone2> try not to do it here
[05:01] <potential> clone2 has got a point.
[05:01] <rww> Let's stick to Ubuntu support folks, thanks :)
[05:01] <potential> I want to help the Ubuntu community be better, how do I start?
[05:02] <rww> ubottu: getinvolved
[05:02] <potential> is ubottu a bot?
[05:02] <HyperFoxIII> yes
[05:02] <rww> Depends on what you're interested in. Those are some good links :)
[05:02] <rww> http://loco.ubuntu.com/ lists our local community teams; if there's one in your area they might be able to help too :)
[05:04] <clone2> is ubottu an AI
[05:04] <rww> clone2: no
[05:04] <Gallomimia> anyone who has a suggestion for what i'm doing wrong with flashing a usb stick with a netboot image?
[05:04] <clone2> can we trust it?
[05:06] <newham> i need help
[05:06] <potential> I can't believe Morgan_Freeman just joined us.
[05:06] <potential> A good day to you sir!
[05:06] <cane99> Morgan_Freeman,  are you the movie star?
[05:07] <potential> Yes, yes.
[05:07] <potential> I mean, let him tell us.
[05:07] <newham> i have ubuntu server 12.04 and I installed noip2 so my server would update my house IP. I can't see noip2 running when I do chkconfig but I do sudo noip and it starts it but then I reboot server and I have to start noip again
[05:08] <wafflejock> Gallomimia: are you targetting the disk and not the partition on the drive
[05:08] <cane99> newham, you coming from the RHEL world too
[05:08] <newham> any help would be awesome
[05:08] <newham> not sure I know what you are talking about
[05:09] <cane99> newham, ubuntu doesn't use chkconfig
[05:09] <newham> i installed it
[05:09] <somsip> newham: this has instructions. It might be old-ish, but it's worth a try http://vairavanlaxman.com/blog/2010/06/start-no-ip-on-startup-in-ubuntu.html
[05:09] <clone2> Gallomimia sourceforage has a uni boot program for usb for linux
[05:09] <newham> i am desperate
[05:09] <newham> I have already tried it
[05:10] <somsip> newham: have you seen all of the corrections in the comments?
[05:10] <somsip> newham: alterntive updatrt script here: http://lorentzen.blogspot.com/2012/12/proper-upstart-script-for-no-ip-dns.html
[05:11] <newham> somsip: no but I will check.Whats weird is I can't even see the service running
[05:11] <tushar> hello
[05:11] <somsip> newham: how do you check it? ps aux | grep noip (or no-ip)
[05:11] <Black_hawx61> any one would like to tell me how can i play Microsoft games on Ubuntu cause i already have tried "wine" and "play on Linux"
[05:12] <potential> fedora has a really neat option that makes your window to half the screen when you drag it to the side, how can I enable this function on ubuntu?
[05:12] <pack^> Black_hawx61: install steam and play the win games that are ported for linux
[05:14] <DistroHopper> Hello everyone. :)
[05:14] <wafflejock> Black_hawx61: yeah from what I understand wine is the way to go where it works, generally I just stick with games made for Linux from Steam and have a separate Windows box for Windows only games
[05:14] <wafflejock> hello DistroHopper
[05:14] <newham> [ ? ]  killprocs
[05:14] <newham>  [ ? ]  module-init-tools
[05:14] <newham>  [ ? ]  network-interface
[05:14] <newham>  [ ? ]  network-interface-container
[05:14] <newham>  [ ? ]  network-interface-security
[05:14] <newham>  [ ? ]  networking
[05:14] <newham>  [ ? ]  ondemand
[05:14] <newham> noip isn't there
[05:14] <newham> why?
[05:15] <DistroHopper> Hello wafflejock.
[05:15] <tushar> DistroHopper: How many distros have you tried so far?
[05:15] <Black_hawx61> u mean like sun virtual box?
[05:15] <DistroHopper> tushar; let me count, um.
[05:15] <pack^> Black_hawx61: no
[05:15] <wafflejock> Black_hawx61: I use virtualbox for Photoshop but I doubt it would be very good for gaming
[05:15] <newham> somsip: any help?
[05:16] <tushar> DistroHopper: yeah, sure.
[05:16] <DistroHopper> just finishing with elementary os, i'd say it'd be the thirteenth distro i've tried
[05:16] <clone2> have have 15 or so tushar
[05:17] <clone2> i
[05:17] <newham> ok thanks
[05:17] <tushar> DistroHopper: Amazing. Which one is the best for you?
[05:17] <usr13_> DistroHopper: I thought there were only 2.
[05:17] <Black_hawx61> it worked thankx
[05:17] <tushar> clone2: This is just amazing. Which is the best one according to you?
[05:17] <clone2> try the puppy series or mints good
[05:17] <clone2> tails has tor
[05:17] <FuuqUmiist> does ubuntu automatically update the file manager?
[05:17] <xangua> potential: install compiz settings manager from software center, open it and configure the Grid plugin to work as you want
[05:17] <clone2> zorin also good
[05:18] <potential> xangua, thank you.
[05:18] <DistroHopper> tushar; i really enjoyed ubuntu studio
[05:18] <DistroHopper> usr13; what?
[05:18] <clone2> distrowatch hasthem all for download
[05:19] <tushar> DistroHopper: May I know what do you mostly do on Ubuntu-Studio?
[05:19] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: the software manager regularly checks for updates to any installed packages including the file manager
[05:19] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: you can manually run an update through the command line using, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:19] <pack^> clone2: you can download tor package from internet and run the executable to make a standalone tor in ubuntu/debian. Or really most *nix.
[05:19] <DistroHopper> mostly graphic design for school and a little bit of programming with geany; i also did all of my photo editing with it. and then i liked to play with all of the audio tools
[05:20] <wafflejock> DistroHopper: yeah just found out about Hydrogen recently it's pretty fun
[05:20] <FuuqUmiist> wafflejock how do you simulate sudo apt-get -s update ?
[05:20] <clone2> yes but tails comes with it
[05:20] <tushar> DistroHopper: That's cool. Glad it's working out good for you. So, which programming language do you like the most for your work?
[05:20] <usr13_> DistroHopper: See my PM
[05:20] <clone2> pack
[05:21] <DistroHopper> 1.) i see no pm ;c 2.) all of my studies required a majority of html/css and some things like python and ruby
[05:21] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: unsure about your exact meaning or how you would do a "dry install" the update is just to fetch the latest package list from repositories you have listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list but the second command with upgrade tells it to actually grab new packages you'll still get a list of packages being upgraded and a confirmation
[05:21] <pack^> clone2: https://www.torproject.org/
[05:22] <DistroHopper> im actually deciding on which distro to go to right now and make it my distro of choice
[05:22] <agent_white> But then... what will your /nick be if you settle on one?
[05:22] <FuuqUmiist> wafflejock yeah i want to test what it will be actually upgrading
[05:22] <clone2> running from disc would be a dry install no
[05:22] <tushar> DistroHopper: I guess Geany is good for those languages. I think you should try Fedora...
[05:22] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: it will list the packages when you say  to upgrade and Y/n to install
[05:22] <clone2> installed only in ram
[05:22] <FuuqUmiist> ok
[05:23] <DistroHopper> tbh i've never actually tried fedora
[05:23] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: there may be a safer way but I don't know it
[05:23] <tushar> DistroHopper: When I tried fedora, I was amazed at the smoothness in it's working
[05:24] <agent_white> DistroHopper: Have you tried Arch Linux?
[05:24] <wafflejock> DistroHopper: yeah I've been on Kubuntu for a while played around with Mint (cinammon and MATE) and was on Ubuntu for a bit but been happy with Kubuntu
[05:24] <pack^> DistroHopper: just go down the list in distrowatch.com until you hit #50. You should have a good idea by then.
[05:24] <wafflejock> I'm tempted by Arch for sure
[05:24] <DistroHopper> arch linux was so fun
[05:25] <DistroHopper> but i had to remove it because my father thought i was breaking my computer with all of the terminal commands and such he saw
[05:25] <clone2> try mac puppy
[05:25] <agent_white> I've been on Arch for the past ~3 years. I enjoy it.  It's nice to not really have anything pre-installed.
[05:25] <ammp> Anyone have experience with mpd/ncmpcpp problems? It just up and stopped playing anything.
[05:25] <agent_white> Lean-and-mean.
[05:25] <tushar> I loved Ubuntu till 10.04. After that, they introduced a different UI and I moved to Fedora. I am enjoying Fedora since then.
[05:25] <DistroHopper> Not going to lie, but I enjoy every UI that Linux has. Including Unity.
[05:26] <wafflejock> yeah there were parts of Unity I liked, just felt locked in
[05:26] <pack^> tushar: I have switched to xfce on whatever base I am running. At least on most. Still have a few with unity or cinnamon.
[05:26] <FuuqUmiist> for people new to linux coming from windows i will likely recommend linux mint
[05:27] <agent_white> Switched to a tiling window manager (awesomewm) and never looked back. Too perfect! :P
[05:27] <usr13_> DistroHopper is a pretty well rounded Linux enthusiast.
[05:27] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: yeah good call, I put my parents on it
[05:27] <wafflejock> FuuqUmiist: they're happy with it
[05:27] <clone2> utorrent or transmission for torrents?
[05:27] <FuuqUmiist> ubuntu is just too different from windows
[05:27] <DistroHopper> Delugeeeeeee BitTorrent Client
[05:27] <agent_white> clone2: Transmission.
[05:27] <wafflejock> yeah the menu thing really grinds my gears too
[05:27] <FuuqUmiist> 90% of the world uses windows
[05:27] <FuuqUmiist> but now there is windows 8 heh
[05:27] <agent_white> 90% of the world uses a web-browser, not the full OS.
[05:28] <clone2> tryed duluge didnt like it
[05:28] <tushar> pack^: Yeah, I tried xfce but I like gnome very much. I don't know but I really enjoyed the old looks of Gnome. Have you tried fedora?
[05:28] <DistroHopper> I didn't even know uTorrent was Linux compatible. Never checked it.
[05:28] <potential> I am a very enthusiast Linux enthusiast.
[05:28] <wafflejock> agent_white: yeah true that's why I moved my parents to Linux, old hardware and know they just use the internet and skype anyhow
[05:28] <agent_white> potential: How is that goeing for you?
[05:28] <DistroHopper> My favorite DEs were Pantheon and XFCE.
[05:29] <agent_white> wafflejock: As long as you setup the desktop how they like it, there's no reason for them not to like it :)
[05:29] <pack^> tushar: yeah. I am not really impressed by it. It's ok.
[05:29] <DistroHopper> i moved my grandma to elementary and she was so happy with it, minus her canon printer not being supported ( ' "
[05:29] <clone2> linux is suppost to be easyer for new people not use to windows
[05:29] <pack^> tushar: I used Red Hat back before it was enterprise and was open.
[05:29] <wafflejock> agent_white: exactly, they're getting old so it took some pushing to get them to change but I just installed it on an extra HDD in the computer and told them we can just switch the cable back if you're unhappy
[05:30] <potential> agent_white: I am trying not to pay too much attention to the Linus Torvalds head affirmation when he said "no" when they asked him if there were any back-doors in it.
[05:30] <DistroHopper> wafflejock: did  they ever pull the cable?
[05:30] <wafflejock> no they like it now
[05:30] <clone2> backtrack sure hacks wifi easy
[05:30] <tushar> pack^: Yes, same here. When it was named to Fedora, I went to ubuntu somehow and fell in love with it. Oh man! it had everything including VLC!
[05:31] <wafflejock> the stupid power supply died mysteriously though, it was still spinning the fan which made it very confusing, but $30 fix
[05:31] <clone2> vlc does kick ass
[05:31] <agent_white> potential: Well it was them asking him if the feds asked him, not him confirming. But it's ok, the NSA is everywhere anyways.
[05:31] <pack^> tushar: no. long before fedora started.
[05:31] <Busybyeski> how can i upgrade to the LTS beta from 13.10?
[05:31] <potential> agent_white: everywhere?
[05:31] <clone2> upgrade package
[05:31] <xangua> !ot
[05:32] <clone2> the bot is un happy
[05:32] <agent_white> wafflejock: Just like me converting parents to Chromium. Though, I just removed IE, and renamed Chrome to "Internet Explorer". Ignorance is bliss.
[05:32] <usr13_> Busybyeski: Ask on #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <agent_white> potential: EVERYWHERE.
[05:32] <clone2> nothing for him to do
[05:32] <potential> agent_white: TOILETS.
[05:33] <Busybyeski> usr13_: thanks
[05:33] <agent_white> xangua: SORRY.
[05:33] <agent_white> *cough-oldfogies-cough*
[05:42] <Gallomimia> wafflejock: yes i'm targeting the disk and not the partition. looks all good now that i'm booted from a HD, but no dice when i try to boot from it
[05:42] <Gallomimia> odd.... 16bit fat on an 8gig flash drive... doesn't seem logical
[05:43] <clone2> Gallomimia sourceforage has a uni boot program for usb for linux
[05:43] <ses1984> what would be a good app or apps to use to share my screen with a few other people, like i need to demo some software for a few other people
[05:43] <Gallomimia> yeah maybe i'll try that. thanks for the idea clone2. usually don't have any trouble with using dd
[05:44] <clone2> it give you a multi boot multi os
[05:45] <Gallomimia> this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/
[05:45] <clone2> sounds right
[05:45] <clone2> check the screen shoots
[05:45] <wafflejock> ses1984: google hangouts works pretty well
[05:45] <clone2> shots
[05:46] <Gallomimia> doesn't sound like it will do what i want. i need an alternative installer for ubuntu so i can install on raid using LVM
[05:46] <ses1984> wafflejock: oh really i've never used it for that before. i'll have to check that out
[05:46] <wafflejock> yeah video conference and can share screens
[05:46] <wafflejock> ses1984: I use it with my brother and clients for business it works well to be able to show things
[05:47] <wafflejock> ses1984: everyone just installs a chrome plugin for it to work
[05:47] <Gallomimia> perhaps it will use the image i provide. i'll give it a shot
[05:47] <Gallomimia> wafflejock: targeting the disk not the partition is the right method yes?
[05:48] <wafflejock> Gallomimia: from what I understand that's usually correct
[05:48] <Gallomimia> yep me too
[05:48] <Gallomimia> odd that. why won't it boot
[05:48] <Gallomimia> maybe i have the wrong image file? it looks right...
[05:48] <wafflejock> Gallomimia: have you booted other USB drives on that machine?
[05:48] <Gallomimia> sure. that's how i installed ubuntu to begin with
[05:49] <Gallomimia> maybe it doesn't like the usb3 ports?
[05:49] <wafflejock> Gallomimia: could be would try various ports for sure
[05:49] <Gallomimia> at least it gets no data from the flash drive :/
[05:51] <Gallomimia> well. no sense using this machine to stay connected here
[05:52] <ses1984> wafflejock can you share a desktop screen to tablet users
[05:52] <wafflejock> I think so I have a tablet if you wanna try you can pm me and I'll give you my gmail
[05:53] <wafflejock> I'm pretty sure it works though
[05:53] <wafflejock> I know you can video conf on the tablet
[05:53] <wafflejock> and the screenshare appears through the same "viewport"
[05:53] <wafflejock> so I imagine it works I'm just always on my laptop/desktop setup
[05:53] <ses1984> i might take you up on that offer
[05:54] <ses1984> i'm just trying to get it to work from one desktop to another and having some problems
[05:54] <pack^> ses1984: there are several listed if you google "ubuntu: video conference and share screens"
[05:54] <wafflejock> k I'm always interested in knowing the limits anyhow gonna step out for a sec brb...
[05:55] <ses1984> i will check that out too thanks
[05:55] <wafflejock> yeah I like hangouts cause it's cross platform but if there's other good options available I'm open to hearing them too
[05:55] <wafflejock> sometimes everyone doesn't have a gmail account which can be problematic
[05:57] <ses1984> i feel a little inept because it's not immediately obvious to me how to share screens
[05:57] <ses1984> i googled and it says 'hover over the left side of the window' and i'm hovering and no icon is popping up
[05:59] <sibin> http://myonlinetask.com/?task=5881
[06:00] <wafflejock> there should be a list of things when you hover your mouse over the hangouts window
[06:00] <wafflejock> one with a green box and white arrow to share
[06:01] <wafflejock> ses1984: you have to start a hangout first and after you join in the video chat screen is what they're talking about
[06:04] <Gallomimia> clone2: fail for two reasons: won't recognize my thumb drive, no versions of ubuntu 13.10 ergo don't use
[06:05] <clone2> try different distros
[06:05] <Gallomimia> i have no desire to try other distros
[06:05] <clone2> just try to fix the problem
[06:05] <Gallomimia> it boots the live version of ubuntu no problem
[06:06] <wafflejock> Gallomimia: yeah sorry don't have a ton of experience with the USB drive installs I have like 5 of em but just used some usb installer to make em all and didn't really have a problem
[06:06] <clone2> you limit  the method
[06:06] <elky> clone2: telling people to "just try to fix the problem" is not helpful
[06:06] <clone2> think outside the box
[06:07] <Gallomimia> maybe someone can tell me if i'm on the wrong image for net install of ubuntu 13.10
[06:07] <ses1984> wafflejock is there supposed to be some distinction between video calls and video chats? the only thing i seem to be able to see on either end here are video calls
[06:07] <ses1984> and i dont see anything about screen sharing
[06:07] <wafflejock> ses1984: no just video chat
[06:07] <wafflejock> or video call whatever
[06:07] <clone2> elky did someone address you or are you here to help
[06:07] <wafflejock> no difference
[06:07] <Gallomimia> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ i don't know which of these i should try. so far i've tried boot.img
[06:07] <wafflejock> ses1984: once you start that then you can screenshare
[06:07] <wafflejock> ses1984: even if you have no webcam you should be able to join
[06:08] <wafflejock> that initiates the hangout window and runs the plugin
[06:08] <elky> clone2: i'm trying to steer you back to being helpful.
[06:08] <wafflejock> within the plugin then you can screenshare
[06:09] <pack^> Gallomimia: just curious. why net install? why not just download the regular install disk?
[06:09] <clone2> and trying is what i sshould have said
[06:09] <Gallomimia> pack^: such a disk has no option to install on raid. why not? i don't know. it's very dismaying
[06:10] <eren_> sa
[06:10] <eren_> hello selamun aleyküm
[06:11] <wafflejock> aleyküm selam ?
[06:11] <pack^> Gallomimia: really? How odd. I thought in the 'set up manually' section of the install (formatting/partitioning) you had your choice of lvm, raid, etc.
[06:11] <eren_> saygı gösterin
[06:11] <Gallomimia> yeah i thought so too. lvm is there but i don't see any way to do it on a raid
[06:11] <elky> eren_: english please?
[06:11] <eren_> what
[06:11] <eren_> neden
[06:12] <elky> eren_: this channel uses english only
[06:12] <dddan> Hey guys, how do I boot into CLI from grub? I thought it was alt+F1 at grub, and that DOES show the cli for a second, but then it just boots up anyway without letting me do anything
[06:12] <eren_> what
[06:12] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: You can't dd a kernel image to a drive and have it be bootable.
[06:13] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: this isn't a kernel image... it's really a disk. it shows up with all sorts of files and what not
[06:13] <rannonga> how to get into tty
[06:13] <wafflejock> rannonga: Ctrl+Alt+F1, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back
[06:13] <pack^> Gallomimia: have you tried to google for information?
[06:13] <Gallomimia> yes.
[06:13] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: What is the name of the file you're dding?
[06:14] <Gallomimia> there's a lot of information especially on ubuntuwiki and they're mostly all very old. the best of them say use net install or alternate installer
[06:14] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: boot.img from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: Just use the .iso.
[06:15] <Gallomimia> k\
[06:16] <Gallomimia> that means i will reboot and close this program down. g'day thanks all
[06:22] <wafflejock> I'm tuckered too g'night er g'day everyone
[06:23] <evoain> Hello
[06:25] <Overlordz> hi
[06:27] <evoain> Overlordz: What do you mostly do on Ubuntu Linux?
[06:28] <Beldar> lurk
[06:30] <Overlordz> evoain, play games, surf the net, program...
[06:30] <Overlordz> and yes, lurk :P
[06:31] <evoain> Overlordz: Which programming languages do you use to program?
[06:33] <Overlordz> evoain, lately c#, some ruby.  c# I have to use a virtual machine or remote desktop for.
[06:34] <ethang> My second monitor has lost resolutions and is stuck at 1024x768, even though it's a wide screen
[06:34] <ethang> any ideas?
[06:36] <Overlordz> ethang, have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
 not yet.  Let me try that
 I added a resolution to the vga-1 monitor, now how do i switch to that mode?
[06:48] <ice9> when I install zram on 13.10 I get this error: init: zram-config post-stop process (3317) terminated with status 1
[06:53] <FuuqUmiist> is there a bot on this channel that tells you what software versions are supported for each ubuntu release?
[06:54] <sunny_> Hello I need some help regarding Installation of Ubuntu/Xubuntu 13.10 on a Non_PAE supported CPU
[06:54] <ethang> Overlordz: thanks! that fixed it.  I appreciate the help
[06:54] <sunny_> the system/laptop is currently running Xubuntu 12.04
[06:54] <somsip> FuuqUmiist: do !info {package} {version}
[06:55] <somsip> !info php5 precise | FuuqUmiist (example)
[06:55] <FuuqUmiist> somsip what is the bots name
[06:55] <Overlordz> ethang, sweet, no problem
[06:55] <sunny_> can anyone help please?!
[06:56] <sunny_> !info
[06:56] <ethang> sunny_: what was your question?
[06:56] <somsip> sunny_: from the wiki on this, you are on one of the only supported non-PAE distros. Unless you go to lubuntu-fake-PAE https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[06:57] <sunny_> I have a old laptop with Pentium M processor.. the machine currently is running Xubuntu 12.04
[06:58] <sunny_> i want to upgrade it to 13.10 .. I was wondering if it is possible to modify the installation media/ISO to add a non-pae kernel?
[06:58] <somsip> sunny_: that question is essentially answered on that page I linked to.
[06:58] <sunny_> on that page they are using fake-pae
[06:59] <sunny_> What I want is to modify the ISO Image to add a nonpae kernel
[06:59] <sunny_> I want to know if it is possible if yes then how?
[07:00] <somsip> sunny_: it explains 3 currently supported options. You might find some other method elsewhere, but...<shrugs>
[07:00] <sunny_> ok.. thank you somsip
[07:01] <sunny_> Thank you for replying though!!
[07:01] <somsip> sunny_: np. I know it wasn't a complete answer but it does seem like non-PAE is being phased out.
[07:02] <sunny_> I know.. but I only have this old machine with me.. cannot afford a new machine right now
[07:02] <Ben64> if you stick with 12.04, you have until april 2017 to get a new one
[07:02] <_nedr> hello.. i have a nvidia optimus laptop running ubuntu 13.10 with optimus drivers (primusrun)... i am trying to connect a second monitor via VGA, but the 2nd screen is frozen
[07:03] <sunny_> Ben64, you are right!! but still I was wondering if at all that slipstreaming is possible..
[07:03] <sunny_> :)
[07:03] <Ben64> slipstreaming is a windows thing, the fact of the matter is pae is the only kernel available on 13.10. feel free to compile your own, but thats more of a hassle
[07:04] <olalonde> Hi all. I have Ubuntu running on a machine with no keyboard/monitor. I would like to access the GUI of ubuntu over my LAN network. Which solution would give me the best performance? VNC maybe? I read an article about some corporate networks where they run all their machines in a VM data center and all their computers are "thin" clients.. what technology do they use to make it so that the speed/latency is very low when accessing a VM from the thin client?
[07:04] <sunny_> so if I compile my own kernel.. will it allow me to switch off PAE support?
[07:05] <_nedr> ok i checked some more... the screen is not frozen... its just that the desktop is not refreshing.. everything else refreshes fine
[07:06] <_nedr> so if i open a new window... that displays fine... but if i minimise to desktop.. it still shows the window that was open
[07:07] <sunny_> Ben64, if I use the miniISO method and add fake-pae support, can I directly upgrade to 13.10 from 12.04 or first I have to upgrade to 12.10 then 13.04 and then to 13.10?
[07:08] <Ben64> i'd recommend fresh install
[07:09] <sunny_> ok .. how will I install a fresh system when the CPU is not supporting PAE?
[07:10] <Ben64> read that link from earlier about how to install it
[07:11] <sunny_> I don't want Lubuntu
[07:11] <Ben64> then stick with 12.04
[07:12] <sunny_> --.--
[07:12] <sunny_> thanks
[07:26] <Gallomimia> starting to suspect the reason for this image not being bootable is the usb drive i'm using
[07:26] <Guest30> possible.  sometimes they go bad
[07:28] <Gallomimia> this one's newer. but it says something about no cache file found. assuming disk mode write-through
[07:28] <Gallomimia> then just boots from my hd
[07:28] <Gallomimia> but this other flash drive with a live image on it works fine. that won't let me install on raid tho :(
[07:29] <Gallomimia> nope. same error still :/
[07:29] <_nedr> how do i pin a window to a workspace in unity (dual-monitor) setup?
[07:29] <_nedr> what i mean is i just want one window shown in my second monitor
[07:30] <yanaz> Hello good people
[07:30] <yanaz> I'm ubuntu noob and I'm seeking for help
[07:30] <Gallomimia> can anyone help me install ubuntu on a raid using LVM?
[07:30] <Gallomimia> yanaz hi. how are you?
[07:30] <Gallomimia> !ask | yanaz
[07:30] <yanaz> My question is: How do i make system to ask for password when changing resolution and other display settings - Ubuntu 12.04
[07:31] <yanaz> ok sorry for that
[07:31] <Gallomimia> oh you asked quick anyway. it's a good question, i'm not really sure it's possible
[07:32] <Gallomimia> hopefully someone who knows more than me will prove it wrong
[07:34] <yanaz> !patience
[07:34] <Gallomimia> ubottu is very smart :)
[07:36] <FuuqUmiist> what app do you use to remote desktop 2 ubuntu machines?
[07:36] <kudu_> hey
[07:36] <FuuqUmiist> hey hey
[07:37] <kudu91> wassup!
[07:37] <Gallomimia> FuuqUmiist: i would use vnc
[07:37] <FuuqUmiist> Gallomimia which one
[07:37] <Eagleman7> How do i start NFS lock? i got an error from my mail server that it cant lock files
[07:37] <kudu91> just test driving ubuntu, i'm used to debian :L
[07:39] <Gallomimia> FuuqUmiist: i've never done it on ubuntu. your remote machine will need the server and you'll need the client
[07:40] <FuuqUmiist> yeah for windows remote desktop is easy, and file sharing is easy too
[07:40] <Gallomimia> trying to build a raid.... on anything. i want to install ubuntu under LVM on it. if i try to build it from my install on another disk i get "mdadm" (no such file or directory)
[07:40] <Gallomimia> you might just look into using a remote X session. tunnel it over ssh
[07:41] <Eagleman7> How do i start NFS lock? i got an error from my mail server that it cant lock files
[07:41] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: I don't think I've ever used remote desktop on Ubuntu, what are you trying to do?
[07:41] <FuuqUmiist> gordonjcp i want to control the desktop computer when i am out of town
[07:42] <FuuqUmiist> for trouble shooting and the user needs help with ubuntu, they will see what i am doing and stuff
[07:42] <FuuqUmiist> when*
[07:43] <Ben64> just pick a vnc server and run it, i think vino is the default one
[07:43] <Ben64> and if you want to have it secure, use it over a ssh tunnel
[07:43] <ronin> how could I grep for a line where there's two words in any order
[07:44] <_nedr> hello.. when i click on a flash video with dual-monitor and go to full screen ... it goes to full-screen on my primary monitor ...very annoying.
[07:44] <_nedr> how can i fix this
[07:44] <somsip> ronin: pipe it through grep twice: cat file | grep word1 | grep word2
[07:45] <ronin> somsip, amazing
[07:45] <ronin> :)
[07:46] <Eagleman7> How do i start NFS lock? i got an error from my mail server that it cant lock files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available
[07:46] <wkmanire> Hello
[07:47] <wkmanire> I'm having a little trouble with an install.  Hoping for some insight.
[07:47] <cfhowlett> !details|wkmanire,
[07:47] <wkmanire> I have a problem with install, I'm running Ubuntu version 12 LTS When I try to do boot the system, I get the following output: _, but I expected it to do boot the installer.
[07:49] <olalonde> is it possible to create a transaction with to TXOUTs?
[07:49] <olalonde> just miner fee
[07:49] <olalonde> no*
[07:50] <wkmanire> I have an older machine with a 32 bit processor.
[07:50] <wkmanire> I'm booting from a live USB device.
[07:50] <olalonde> oops, wrong chan
[07:50] <wkmanire> GRUB loads and tries to boot the installer but then it fails.
[07:50] <lxsameer> hey guys i install broadcom-sta driver what is the kernel modules name which i should use ?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> wkmanire, "older" machines might like lubuntu better than ubuntu.  lubuntu is optimized for older hardware
[07:51] <cfhowlett> lxsameer, http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[07:51] <wkmanire> This machine was built in 2000.
[07:52] <cfhowlett> wkmanire, yeah, you really should try 12.04 lubuntu or xubuntu.
[07:52] <wkmanire> I haven't heard of lubuntu. Is that appropriate of a server installation?
[07:52] <wkmanire> for a*
[07:52] <Gallomimia> that's odd... i just managed to build a raid using "Disks" program. Had to install mdadm first. immediately after building it it says "ARRAY IS DEGRADED" 1 disk is missing. recovering 0.0% 4h some minutes remaining
[07:52] <cfhowlett> wkmanire, doh!  server!  nevermind
[07:52] <wkmanire> I want to use this machine as a DNS server
[07:52] <cfhowlett> wkmanire, forget everything I said and check the #uubntu-server channel
[07:52] <wkmanire> cfhowlett: Thanks.
[07:53] <Eagleman7> How do i start NFS lock? i got an error from my mail server that it cant lock files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available
[07:55] <yanaz> OK so can i make ubuntu ask for password when changing particular settings ? What are the most comprehensive permission management tools ? - Ubuntu 12.04
[07:56] <Gallomimia> but seriously. why is a freshly built raid being rebuilt? there's nothing to rebuild
[07:56] <Gallomimia> there aren't even any partitions on it
[07:59] <hateball> yanaz: polkit
[08:00] <yanaz> thanks
[08:04] <iptable> Gallomimia, did you create a fresh raid, or assemble/reassemble?
[08:04] <Gallomimia> fresh raid
[08:04] <Gallomimia> previously unraided disks. one was unformatted, two were hfs+
[08:05] <iptable> Gallomimia, there are 2 ways to build e.g. RAID1. One way will reinitialize the RAID to "fresh" and another will "sync to first disk" to preserve data
[08:05] <Eagleman7> How do i fix this error on dovecot, it looks like it is a locking problem with nfs: files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available
[08:05] <Gallomimia> it's a raid5 btw
[08:05] <Gallomimia> it appears to be "recovering" the one that was never formatted or used previously
[08:06] <iptable> Gallomimia, that's slightly different. Raid5 = each sector is XORd on 2 drives and XOR saved on third. you need that in order to have the RAID in sync
[08:06] <Gallomimia> sure that's great. except there's no data at all to put into sync
[08:06] <iptable> Gallomimia, keep in mind that mdraid doesn't know, nor care, about the underlying filesystem
[08:06] <iptable> Gallomimia, so it's not aware of such concepts as files and their data.
[08:07] <Gallomimia> so it's going to do this no matter what's on the drives?
[08:07] <iptable> Gallomimia, if you want something more intelligent than that, you have to either use ZFS or btrfs. These filesystems do their own RAID, which is data-aware.
[08:07] <Gallomimia> great i guess :/ i'll have a nice backup of my data that i already backed up and want to destroy
[08:07] <Gallomimia> i haven't put a filesystem on it either
[08:08] <Gallomimia> i just coupled them up in a raid with the "Disks" program
[08:08] <iptable> Gallomimia, as stated, mdraid doesn't know, nor care
[08:08] <Gallomimia> i honestly just want to install ubuntu under LVM encrypted on the set
[08:08] <Gallomimia> don't want it to write anything to the disks till i can get that figured out
[08:09] <iptable> Gallomimia, so why don't you use the ubuntu partitioning app that's present in the installer, or gparted, to partition correctly?
[08:09] <Gallomimia> doesn't seem to be working for me
[08:09] <iptable> Gallomimia, works for everyone when correctly used actually. Disks may be trying to assemble the raid instead of creating.
[08:09]  * iptable goes away. need to get ready
[08:10] <Gallomimia> if you have any instructions you could link where i can follow along. everything i've found says "use the alternate installer" which i cannot find for 13.10. i assumed it was
[08:10] <Gallomimia> well. now that the raid is built, maybe i'll see what's going on with the liveCD
[08:15] <Eagleman7> How do i fix this error on dovecot, it looks like it is a locking problem with nfs: files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available
[08:17] <llutz> Eagleman7: your mailboxes on nfs?
[08:17] <Eagleman7> llutz yes
[08:17] <llutz> Eagleman7: needs lockd running
[08:18] <Eagleman7> llutz i think it is
[08:18] <llutz> Eagleman7: on client + server?
[08:18] <Eagleman7> root      1457  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Mar05   0:00 [lockd]
[08:20] <Eagleman7> llutz i think so, its on freenas
[08:20] <llutz> Eagleman7: check it
[08:23] <Eagleman7> llutz i have no idea how to xD
[08:23] <Eagleman7> it should basicly be running
[08:23] <chat-mod> hello
[08:23] <llutz> Eagleman7: "i think" and "should be" isn't very helpful to fix errors.
[08:23] <Eagleman7> i cant ps aux grep it but it may be running as another name
[08:24] <chat-mod> llutz please do not be rude to users. Ty hun
[08:24] <Eagleman7> llutz i know, but i've got my mysql databases running on the same server and they are not giving me lockd errors
[08:24] <llutz> Eagleman7: try dovecot using dotlock, it won't need lockd. maybe that works
[08:25] <llutz> chat-mod: go get a live
[08:25] <chat-mod> llutz stop being disrespectufl right now
[08:25] <chat-mod> and do not tell mods what to do
[08:25] <Eagleman7> ow wow
[08:26] <chat-mod> hello gregmoreno
[08:26] <Eagleman7> you are really pushing it now, chat-mod
[08:26] <llutz> chat-mod: had a clown for breakfast? stop it
[08:26] <Ben64> llutz: don't feed the trolls, please
[08:26] <chat-mod> Eagleman7 this is not your business, you need to not interfere with mods duties
[08:26] <Eagleman7> go abuse something i real life
[08:27] <llutz> Ben64: usually i won't, but ... sry
[08:27] <Ben64> llutz: it never works out, trust me :)
[08:27] <llutz> Ben64: i should know better after so long time
[08:28] <david> david
[08:29] <Busybyeski> i'm not super familiar with window managers, but i can get the xfce package and remove unity somehow, right? without switching to xubuntu?
[08:29] <Guest88756> In ubuntu you can install the deepin software centre is that ok to do
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Busybyeski, yes you can.
[08:29] <chat-mod> Guest88756 absolutely
[08:29] <somsip> Busybyeski: not so easy to cleanly remove unity, but eay to install xfce and use that as your default session
[08:29] <llutz> Busybyeski: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop      (or just xfce4)
[08:30] <Guest88756> I asm using Xubuntu sorrey
[08:31] <Ben64> Guest88756: i'm not seeing deepin in the repositories, are you sure you are on ubuntu?
[08:31] <r4n4> hello all. Anyone could explain please, if and what the difference is between "sudo su -" and "sudo -i" ? I tried both, then "printenv" and it looks the same.
[08:31] <Busybyeski> where can i choose which manager to use as my default session?
[08:31] <chat-mod> r4n4 the su and -i?
[08:31] <chat-mod> different letters! :P
[08:31] <Ben64> chat-mod: please stop
[08:31] <johelish> I'm looking for a program to monitor when internet goes down and log it to a file.. Does anyone know of this?
[08:31] <chat-mod> Ben64 do not tell mods what to do or you'll be kicked
[08:31] <Guest88756> deepin needs to be installed through ppa
[08:32] <r4n4> chat-mod: very funny
[08:32] <Tazmain> hi all, I am stuggling a bit to find out how to make a system wide variable P4ROOT. How do I create a system wide varaible ?
[08:32] <Ben64> Guest88756: then it is not supported here and you're pretty much on your own with it
[08:32] <somsip> r4n4: scroll down to 'Special notes...' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:33] <Ben64> !away > Ser|Away
[08:34] <geirha> r4n4: sudo su -  uses two commands to do the same as the one command sudo -i; use the latter, it's less silly
[08:35] <Eagleman7> llutz it didnt help
[08:35] <r4n4> somsip: thanks, I checked it. But they don't discuss "sudo su -" (the trailing dash). As I said before: the paths are the same when I use either "sudo su -" or "sudo -i". I checked with "printenv"
[08:35] <chat-mod> llutz please do not give out incorrect commands
[08:35] <r4n4> geirha: oh ok, so they really are doing exactly the same?
[08:35] <Eagleman7> llutz: dotlock_use_excl = yes
[08:35] <geirha> r4n4: They achieve the same, yes, a root login shell
[08:36] <r4n4> geirha: ok, thank's for clarification.
[08:36] <Gallomimia> geirha: i do believe there's a difference. the environment passed is not the same in both commands
[08:36] <hgth> One particular package is held back during an apt-get upgrade. How can I find out why?
[08:36] <somsip> hgth: which package?
[08:36] <DJones> chat-mod: You are not a channel operator, so please don't pretend that you are
[08:36] <chat-mod> DJones do not tell me what to do
[08:36] <hgth> somsip: owncloud
[08:36] <Gallomimia> chat-mod: leave the channel please
[08:36] <Gallomimia> aw. kicked already
[08:36] <Eagleman7> bye
[08:37] <Eagleman7> How do i fix this error on dovecot, it looks like it is a locking problem with nfs: files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available
[08:37] <geirha> Gallomimia: It should be
[08:37] <mort96> Hi!
[08:37] <Gallomimia> geirha: i read an article on it awhile back. there are differences between all the ways of getting a # prompt
[08:38] <somsip> hgth: usually held-back packages if (see top answer) http://is.gd/PwI38S Not sure why owncloud would do this other than for this reason
[08:38] <mort96> How's it going?
[08:39] <geirha> Gallomimia: Yes, though there shouldn't be any difference between those two
[08:39] <Gallomimia> rghh george is getting angry... so annoyed trying to get this thing to to install
[08:39] <Busybyeski> so once this installs, how can i switch between xfce and unity?
[08:39] <hgth> somsip: Ok, I’ll try that command out, thanks
[08:39] <cfhowlett> mort96, this isn't the chitchat channel.  If you need help, state the issue - or offer help.
[08:39] <Gallomimia> i'm trying to get my system to boot from a usb disk. i had it working an hour ago...
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Busybyeski, logout.  choose the alternate desktop environment.  login
[08:40] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I convert flv video to 3gp?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> vadimkolchev, ffmpeg or avconv will do it
[08:40] <Busybyeski> cfhowlett: it is made apparent on the login screen?
[08:40] <vadimkolchev> cfhowlett, sorry, not familiar with the way it is done. could you please advise me what parameters to use?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Busybyeski, click on the ubuntu gear to get the switch menu
[08:41] <Busybyeski> ah great thanks
[08:41] <cfhowlett> vadimkolchev, ffmpeg -i videoname.flv videonname.3gp
[08:41] <vadimkolchev> cfhowlett, thanks a lot, will try it now
[08:42] <Pliance> how would I expand the size of my swap on the command line.
[08:42] <vadimkolchev> cfhowlett, it created a 3gp file with size of 0 bytes
[08:43] <cfhowlett> vadimkolchev, ffmpeg -i videoname.flv          what's the output
[08:43] <Eagleman7> How do i fix this error on dovecot, it looks like it is a locking problem with nfs: files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available.  NFS lock is running on both the server and client
[08:44] <vadimkolchev> cfhowlett, http://pastebin.com/hzU1UV45
[08:44] <Gallomimia> Pliance: i do have the steps for that saved here somewhere i think. i will find
[08:44] <cfhowlett> vadimkolchev, sad to say, I can't see the paste from Beijing.  take this question over to #ubuntustudio
[08:45] <sasa84> hello
[08:45] <geirha> Pliance: you use fdisk to remove the current swap partition, then create a new, bigger one in its place. Then run mkswap on it and update /etc/fstab with the new uuid
[08:46] <DEBIMAN> haha
[08:46] <DEBIMAN> hello!
[08:46] <geirha> Pliance: If you intend to use it for hibernation, there's a couple more places you have to edit
[08:46] <DEBIMAN> is 14.04 stable enough for a daily driver?
[08:47] <sasa84> i'm having problem with lists.ubuntu.com. i'm admin of our ubuntu list and when i'm logging it says that authentification failed. i'm trying to log with my user password. is there any way that i could reset my admin password or should i try something else?
[08:47] <Gallomimia> Pliance: here's some info on making a new (larger) swap file. http://digitizor.com/2011/02/06/create-swap-file-ubuntu-linux/
[08:47] <DJones> DEBIMAN: Probably best asking in 14.04's support channel (until its released anyway) #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <DEBIMAN> DJones: thanks I'll hit up there
[08:50] <Eagleman7> How do i fix this error on dovecot, it looks like it is a locking problem with nfs: files:  Mar  6 08:41:24 domain dovecot: imap(user@domain.com): Error: fcntl(read-lock) locking failed for file /var/mail/domain/user/.Eagleman7/dovecot.index: No locks available.  NFS lock is running on both the server and client
[08:54] <Eagleman7> No one that can help me? :(
[08:54] <Eagleman7> that=who
[09:09] <goodwin> how do i check which ports are currently in use?
[09:11] <goodwin> and which port can be allocated for extra?
[09:14] <Gallomimia> i am finding absolutely no option to install onto a raid, built or not, in the live-cd installer. can someone suggest to me what installation medium i should use to install on a raid5? (software raid)
[09:18] <Pliance> Cheers Gallomimia I will read that article about swap files ...
[09:19] <Gallomimia> welcome Pliance. i used it several times on my remote servers
[09:19] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:20] <basil> Hi just finished brand new installation of Ubuntu 12.04 Server 64bit. Only additional package is Firestarter - to manage firewall. Opened ports 80, 22, 443. I can pin 8.8.8.8 and  google.com. But I still can't access the internet. Would anyone be able to shed some light please?
[09:20] <Wiz_KeeD> Can someone please help me re-partition my drives? and no it's not easy I have two ext4 drives and would like to shrink one and add to the other but the freed up space is not near the first patition that I want to enlarge
[09:20] <MaxFrames> I tried a ubuntu 12.04 live cd on my pc but the logitech mx 5000 bluetooth keyboard and mouse did not work. can you help?
[09:20] <Pliance> Gallomimia: I have small swap partition installed, do you know if swapfile can be used along side or is it one of the other ?
[09:21] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, live session may not work.  install it and then configure it.
[09:21] <MaxFrames> so I'll have to get a corded keyboard and mouse first?
[09:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you can't jump partitions, space has to be next to the partition you want to resize
[09:22] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, bluetooth is sweet but it isn't always plug and play.
[09:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, exactly so, i'm doomed in this case?
[09:22] <MaxFrames> and then what will I have to do to configure it after I've installed it?
[09:22] <Gallomimia> Pliance: you can have multiple swap files. i don't see the value in having two running at the same time. it's easier for me to turn one on and then the other off. keeps the math about how big it is easy
[09:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: depends if you can be bothered with the effort of multiple re-partitionings/resizings to get the free space to where you want it to be
[09:22] <Wiz_KeeD> Btw ikonia, I have the second partition mounted to /home and I would have no trouble removing that and making just one partition if possible
[09:23] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, i'm running so low on space on the partition mounted to / that I cannot download updates anymore soon
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth|MaxFrames, we'll see when after you've installed.
[09:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: clear up your disk space, or resize
[09:23] <Wiz_KeeD> resize, but how
[09:24] <Wiz_KeeD> can't I save my /home folder and delete the second partition as a whole and make just one partition?
[09:24] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: sure you can do that
[09:24] <Wiz_KeeD> I am not very certain how to proceed, I'm scared i'll break something and I can't boot anymore, or add my  /home folder back
[09:25] <Wiz_KeeD> Do you think you can guide me through the process please?
[09:26] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what are you not clear on - you need to make free space,
[09:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Deleting my partition that contains the home folder, won't I have a lot of issues on the very next boot?
[09:27] <Wiz_KeeD> My user being tied to it, and it missing etc?
[09:27] <ice9> usb flash memory exists in lsusb but not under /dev so I can't mount it!
[09:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you said you where going to back it up
[09:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you should be doing this from livemedia - not the running OS
[09:27] <Wiz_KeeD> of course
[09:27] <Wiz_KeeD> so I copy the entire contents of the /home folder
[09:28] <Wiz_KeeD> to my mobile hard-drive, delete the partition, add it to the first one, boot up ubuntu normally and paste the /home folder back
[09:28] <ikonia> if you want to keep the data....
[09:28] <Wiz_KeeD> is that it?
[09:29] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why do you keep saying "boot up"
[09:29] <Wiz_KeeD> when I boot ubuntu
[09:29] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you are running from a livecd - this is all done from a livecd
[09:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I know, after all is done I boot back ubuntu don't i?
[09:30] <ikonia> you're not done
[09:30] <ikonia> you're doing things such as copy /home back AFTER you boot ubuntu - you need to do it BEFORE you boot ubuntu
[09:30] <ikonia> as in "do everything from the livecd"
[09:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok, I see your point, is that all I need to do?
[09:31] <ikonia> yes
[09:31] <Wiz_KeeD> pasting it back there would be like it was never on a different partition?
[09:31] <takuan> how can you kill an application that won't die after a kill -9 or killall -9?
[09:31] <ikonia> you're copying and restoring the data
[09:31] <ikonia> takuan: it's zombied
[09:32] <ikonia> takuan: you'd need to mess with ipc, the best thing to do is bounce it
[09:32] <takuan> ikonia: problem is it's window is cluttering my workspace
[09:32] <Wiz_KeeD> well I hope this works, I have no other choice it will choke soon
[09:32] <Wiz_KeeD> less than 500mb free
[09:33] <ikonia> takuan: so bounce the ox
[09:33] <ikonia> box
[09:34] <onlty> Hello 1606 ppl
[09:35] <ice9> usb flash memory exists in lsusb but not under /dev and I can't see it in gnome-disks
[09:35] <takuan> ikonia: isn't a zombie process supposed to have a Z in stat column of ps?
[09:35] <ikonia> takuan: not always
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ok done, going in
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ice9: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see it?
[09:39] <ice9> ActionParsnip: no
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> ice9: unplug it, wait a few seconds then plug it back in and run:  dmesg | tail     does the output give any clues?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ice9: when you unplugged the device last, did you use the safe removal feayture in your OS?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ice9: what format(s) are the partitions on the device?
[09:40] <Gallomimia> well i've reached the conclusion that either something i'm doing is very wrong or the netboot install images aren't actually functional
[09:40] <ice9> ActionParsnip: this issue happened after I compiled the kernel from source and booted it
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, how do I paste the /home foler on the unmounted drive?
[09:42] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you mount the drive
[09:42] <takuan> ikonia: how can I bounce the ox? can't seem to find any info on that on google
[09:42] <ikonia> takuan: "reboot the box"
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, the option to mount it in gparted is grayed out
[09:42] <ikonia> don't mount it in gparted, or figure out why it's greyed out, eg: no file system
[09:43] <takuan> ikonia: ah ok
[09:43] <takuan> so no other option that to reboot
[09:43] <takuan> s/that/than/
[09:43] <ikonia> takuan: that is the best/easy option
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> ice9: so its a self rolled kernel, not teh default Ubuntu one?
[09:44] <ice9> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:45] <rical> is it possible to print only foo with egrep here: echo "0foo0" | egrep -o "0(*)0" ?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ice9: we cannot support self rolled kernels here, I'd ask in #linux
[09:45] <Wiz_KeeD> copying
[09:45] <Wiz_KeeD> There is 1mb left of space after the procedure, I bugs me! :)
[09:46] <trime> How do I configure a Failover with Freeradius Version 2.1.12 64Bit?
[09:47] <ice9> is there a dev channel of ubuntu?
[09:47] <trime> I've found a Documentation with a module failover but at these version this module isn't there
[09:50] <ice9> ActionParsnip: would you run this please and give me the output # lsmod | grep usb
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> the disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, now what? skip mounting or m for manual recovery
[09:51] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what have you done ?
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I have removed the partition containing home, enlarged the first one and pasted home back
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Just as I said
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ice9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7043266/
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ice9: we cannot support self compiled kernels, we have no way of knowing the combination of settings you have used, the possibilities are huge
[09:53] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so did you remove the reference to the seperate home partition from /etc/fstab ?
[09:54] <Wiz_KeeD> no I did not ikonia, I had no idea
[09:54] <Wiz_KeeD> If I do that everything will be ok?
[09:54] <ikonia> that will remove the missing home directory error
[09:55] <Wiz_KeeD> so first I mount the drive
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, it's empty :|
[09:57] <Wiz_KeeD> damn, what now?
[09:57] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what's empty ?
[09:58] <Wiz_KeeD> ah sorry no, i cd'd into the directory
[09:59] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm, done, let me check
[10:00] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, now my login doesn't work in ubuntu....
[10:00] <Wiz_KeeD> this is bad...
[10:01] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: look - stop, how many times have I told you, stop saying things like "doens't work" - explain the problem, explain what's happened, not "doens't work, it's bad !!!
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> If it's the wrong password it says Invalid password, try again if it's the right one it just flashes the screen and comes back to the login
[10:01] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so thats normally a problem that it can't write to the home directory of the user logging in
[10:02] <Wiz_KeeD> so i messed up the damn permissions ilke and idiot
[10:02] <Wiz_KeeD> how did you make that connection ikonia ?
[10:04] <ikonia> what connection ?
[10:04] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, everything belongs to root
[10:04] <Wiz_KeeD> home folder and everything in it
[10:04] <Wiz_KeeD> It has drwx------- but it's root root
[10:04] <ikonia> experience
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> So checking the permissions in the mounted filesystem shows everything belongs to root, what would be the next step in this case?
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia?
[10:09] <Gallomimia> generally a sudo chown -R username /home/username is going to change who owns it
[10:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what ?
[10:09] <Gallomimia> all files in the mounted filesystem? i thought you copied /home to the / partition?
[10:09] <Wiz_KeeD> So checking the permissions in the mounted filesystem shows everything belongs to root, what would be the next step in this case?
[10:10] <Wiz_KeeD> I have booted to live-cd to check the theory that it cannot write in the /home folder due to permissions and this might not be the case as I said
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: what file system you are mounting?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: ext4? NTFS?
[10:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, ext4
[10:11] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: instead of guessing, check factually
[10:11] <Wiz_KeeD> I had two separate partitions for / and /home and I remove the /home partition (doing a backup of the files) and re-allocated the space from the /home partition to the main ext4
[10:12] <ikonia> what is the permissions on the directory you want to write to
[10:12] <Wiz_KeeD> I just told you
[10:12] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please clarify
[10:12] <Wiz_KeeD> Wiz_KeeD> It has drwx------- but it's root root
[10:12] <Zyrax> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:12] <Wiz_KeeD> Someone on the forum says moving the entier home folder out, the os will likely create a new one, and then copying the contents with sudo
[10:12] <Zyrax> Moahaha
[10:12] <igel123> Hi
[10:12] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so you need to make the permissions to the directory you want to write to have write permissions to by the user who needs to right
[10:13] <Wiz_KeeD> what was that for? :)))
[10:13]  * Wiz_KeeD giggles
[10:13] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ignore it
[10:13] <Wiz_KeeD> aye
[10:14] <igel123> I am printing a pdf in ubuntu, in black and white everything looks good, in cmyk the pictures are not smooth
[10:14] <Wiz_KeeD> haha: ikonia do you know this one? :)) http://bash.org/?99060
[10:14] <abhvym> hello
[10:15] <abhvym> to installl update i do apt-get upgrade and to upgarde my ubuntu version to latest ubuntu version i do apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[10:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no idea why you are giving me that - more so after I've just asked you to "ignore it"
[10:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please focus on getting help in this channel
[10:15] <Greebo> Hello, I need help with permissions in ubuntu I want to allow user(not admin) to install programs. I found this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/3/how-can-i-set-the-software-center-to-install-software-for-non-root-users and
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, it was just a funny reference, no subliminal message intended, ok
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> should I try to do as the forum says, remove the /home folder entirely?
[10:15] <Greebo> I followed 1st answer but it didn't worked
[10:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it had offensive content in it, which you've just pasted into a channel of 1600 users and it had nothing to do with ubuntu, or the problem you where getting help with - hence please don't do that
[10:16] <abhvym> ??
[10:16] <bada> Hi guys, does anyone knows a French ubuntu IRC chan ?
[10:16] <ikonia> bada: #ubuntu-fr
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !fr
[10:17] <Greebo> I'm using 12.04 version, is it too new for this method?
[10:17] <abhvym> to installl update i do apt-get upgrade and to upgarde my ubuntu version to latest ubuntu version i do apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[10:18] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I'm thinking the /home folder should have the owner the user it originally had (my user) and I should chown user:group the hole /wiz dir of /home
[10:18] <ikonia> abhvym: no, thats not right
[10:18] <ikonia> !upgrade | abhvym
[10:18] <cfhowlett> abhvym, dist-upgrade willl upgrade the current to latest packages for the distro.
[10:18] <Wiz_KeeD> but If I try to sudo chown wiz:wiz it says it does not exist, should I do this from recovery at boot?
[10:18] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: /home is normally owned by root with 755 permissions then your own home directory should be owned by you
[10:18] <abhvym> ikonia, i am not looking to update ubuntu. i wan to know the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade
[10:19] <ikonia> abhvym: a quick man apt-get gives an overview
[10:19] <abhvym> Thank you.
[10:19] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, yes precisely, and at the moment the home directory is owned by root which could be the cause of the problematic login.The issue now is that I cannot chown it to my user from livecd because it complains it does not exist
[10:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: correct the user "wiz" will not exist on a livecd
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> So is there any way I can do it from the livecd or should I reboot and use the debugging shell
[10:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: is your root file system mounted from the livecd ?
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, yes it is
[10:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: where is it mounted ?
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, /mnt
[10:20] <Gallomimia> well gang. i'm giving up for tonight on the netboot issue for installing ubuntu on a raid. i posted a forum post asking for assistance: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209532&p=12948275#post12948275
[10:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: grep wiz /mnt/etc/passwd and show me the output please
[10:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, wiz:x:1000:1000:Paul,,,:/home/wiz:/bin/bash
[10:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: chown -R 1000:1000 /where/your/home/directory/is
[10:23] <Wiz_KeeD> okay
[10:23] <Gallomimia> should fix it all
[10:23] <ice9> what should be the the partition table for the device to be used with bcache?
[10:23] <Gallomimia> an rsync -a would be a better way to copy that directory in the future, to avoid the owner mismatch
[10:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Gallomimia, thats what I've read on the forum as well
[10:25] <Wiz_KeeD> now it's just two small things: 1. I had a mount set on my home folder (I think) that mounted my hdd from my hdd caddy and now it's gone 2.There is that small space left after re-partitioning, should I worry about it?
[10:25] <MindSpark> is cron not supposed to run without an MTA?
[10:25] <MindSpark> cronjobs weren't executing until I installed mailutis
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: cron can run without an mts
[10:26] <Wiz_KeeD> pfuu everything else seems to be in perfect working order, wow never thought I'd see it work that way
[10:26] <MindSpark> mailutils
[10:26] <tonythomas> I am having trouble getting by wifi connected to Ap-mode wifi. Looks like my driver is not supported. Is there a fix ?
[10:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Gallomimia, why is rsync used instead of simple copy? for that specific reason to preserve permissions?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tonythomas: what wfi chip?
[10:26] <MindSpark> and then I had to create a mailbox for the user who has the crontab file
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tonythomas: what release of Ubuntu
[10:26] <Gallomimia> yeah
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tonythomas: details....
[10:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Gallomimia, but copying did not mess the permissions on the files just the ownership right?
[10:26] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip:  do I need to configure anything in cron for it to work without an MTA?
[10:27] <Gallomimia> Wiz_KeeD: when you run a copy the files are read and then the user you're running as makes new files as itself and puts the data in them
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: not used it with mta to be honest
[10:27] <Gallomimia> hm. permissions are probably messed up too yes
[10:27] <tonythomas>  BCM4313
[10:27] <Wiz_KeeD> really?
[10:27] <tonythomas> ActionParsnip:   BCM4313.
[10:27] <Gallomimia> it's worth checking yes
[10:27] <Wiz_KeeD> damn...well it seems to work okay I hope nothing is broken
[10:27] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip: what's mts?
[10:28] <ice9> what should be the the partition table for the device to be used with bcache?
[10:28] <Gallomimia> at the very least, YOUR user should be able to read and write to them all. you might have to check and see if there's any thing you had closed off to other users
[10:28] <MindSpark> I mean it just started working when I installed sendmail and then created an inboxfile
[10:28] <ice9> how to erase filesystem signatures?
[10:29] <tonythomas> ActionParsnip:  I followed instructions in http://askubuntu.com/questions/149345/replace-broadcom-wl-driver-with-b43 and installed ActionParsnip b43-fwcutter. now the device Driver is shown as wl but, still doesnt connect
[10:29] <Greebo> Guys, can someone tell me what am I doing wrong? I created file and paste text as someone suggested but system still asks for admin password  http://askubuntu.com/questions/3/how-can-i-set-the-software-center-to-install-software-for-non-root-users
[10:29] <Gallomimia> if you look at man rsync you'll see what the -a option does... it does lots of stuff
[10:29] <ikonia> Greebo: installing software via a package manager will need root - or root privileges via tools such as sudo
[10:30] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:30] <cristian_c> How can I export a layer from inkscape?
[10:30] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:31] <Greebo> but I want to allow user to do it without password. Is it not possible in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, thank you for your help and guidance once more, I really appreciate the patience you've had every time I got an issue.Learning every day from here from your advice and others, so thanks!
[10:32] <ikonia> Greebo: remove the need for password from the suders rules
[10:32] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: not a problem
[10:32] <Greebo> Ok. How?
[10:33] <Greebo> Sorry, I'm not proficient with Ubuntu
[10:33] <ikonia> Greebo: that's fine, http://askubuntu.com/questions/168461/how-do-i-sudo-without-having-to-enter-my-password
[10:33] <tonythomas>  ActionParsnip  around ?
[10:34] <Greebo> Thank you very much. Jah bless you!
[10:41] <sunmoon> hi all.. any help available concerning functional nvidia driver installation on my xubuntu 13.10?
[11:02] <tonythomas> Hi! can someone help me configuring my broadcom BCM4313 chip to get connected to Ap-Mode wifi ?
[11:02] <tonythomas> its detecting but, not getting connected
[11:03] <Ben64> !broadcom | tonythomas that is pretty much the worst chip for linux support, try this stuff and good luck!
[11:03] <tonythomas> ubottu:  I will try that :) Thanks
[11:05] <tonythomas> Ben64:  ha! I will try that
[11:05] <tonythomas> Ben64:  dont know why, Ap-Mode didnt work :(
[11:05] <Ben64> tonythomas: you mean using that card to act as an access point?
[11:06] <tonythomas> Ben64:  nope, I wanted to connect that to a wifi hotspot, which is in Ap-Mode
[11:06] <tonythomas> I will try to change that hotspot mode from Ap-mode to infrastracture for a start
[11:07] <tonythomas> if that doesn't work out- I will follow the ubuntudocs
[11:07] <Ben64> i ended up getting a small usb wireless adapter instead of messing with the broadcom
[11:07] <tonythomas> Ben64:  its possible right ? to create a hotspot in wifi using infrastracture mode ?
[11:08] <tonythomas> Ben64:  I have one, and thats connected to my PC, making up the hotspot and my old lap is not getting connected
[11:08] <Ben64> ooh, that can be tricky
[11:08] <tonythomas> Ben64: Dont know whether infrastructure hotspot will work
[11:08] <tonythomas> something tricky here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009381
[11:10] <ktosiek> Can I add apt repository in a way that will make it only use it for -t?
[11:14] <SASDOE> heys guys, I was wondering how one could list all the mac adresses for an ssid, and if one can actually choose which they wish to connect to, using nm if possible
[11:16] <SASDOE> ?
[11:26] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, you could use this to get a list of ssid's sudo iwlist wlan1 scan | grep "Address\|ESSID:"
[11:27] <gr33n7007h> change wlan1 with your wireless card
[11:27] <gr33n7007h> nm-tool will list also
[11:32] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, you could use this to get a list of ssid's sudo iwlist wlan1 scan | grep "Address\|ESSID:"
[11:34] <tonythomas> Ben64: now, the wifi connection moves further itill setting up network address and just waits ;(
[11:34] <tonythomas> after installing wl driver
[11:36] <ribe> ciaoraga scusate è questo il canale di supporto per ubuntu e xubuntu?
[11:36] <SASDOE> gr33n7007h: arch ➜ sudo iwlist wlo1 scan
[11:36] <SASDOE> gr33n7007h: wlo1      Failed to read scan data : Argument list too lon
[11:36] <SASDOE> too many APs?
[11:37] <SASDOE> Scratch that it works if I don't sudo it
[11:38] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, it works without sudo?
[11:40] <SASDOE> gr33n7007h: yep. surprises me as well
[11:40] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, or nm-tool | grep "Infra" | awk '{print $1 "    " $3}'
[11:40] <llutz> iwlist scan doen't need sudo, thats normal
[11:41] <gr33n7007h> llutz, Thought it needed root privileges to scan?
[11:42] <SASDOE> Ok thanks. And does anyone know of a good wifi mapper?
[11:42] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, what do you mean a wifi mapper?
[11:42] <llutz> SASDOE: why would it? even users are able to connect to wlans, why shouldn't the scan for them?
[11:43] <kri> can anybody give me the link which has already calculated p, q values for RSA 4096
[11:43] <ice9> how to make usb flash drive boot with macbook UFI?
[11:44] <SASDOE> llutz: makes sense!
[11:44] <SASDOE> gr33n7007h: I would like to have a map of the signal strenght by ap
[11:45] <gr33n7007h> ice9, if you got a windows box hanging about try downloading rufus awesome little tool for doing just that
[11:45] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, kismet
[11:45] <llutz> SASDOE: other distros don't have /sbin in users $PATH, thats why people think only root can use /sbin/iwlist
[11:45] <kri> can anybody give me the link which has already calculated p, q values for RSA 4096
[11:45] <llutz> kri: wrong channel
[11:46] <ice9> gr33n7007h: only ubuntu
[11:46] <kri> tell me the channel which will give the answer for my question
[11:46] <SASDOE> ice9: You want to make a usb to boot on it from mac? On my box all it took was a dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb then plug, press option and boot
[11:46] <llutz> !alis | kri
[11:46] <SASDOE> ice9: no converting to img shit everybody talks about
[11:46] <SASDOE> gr33n7007h: thks
[11:47] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, np
[11:47] <ice9> SASDOE: I tried that but Macbook didn't recognize it at all, it didn't appear in the options menu
[11:47] <sunmoon> hi all, can anybody please assist me with driver selection for my xubuntu 13.10?
[11:48] <SASDOE> ice9: maybe try installing refit and try again
[11:48] <SASDOE> but I didn't need it. Really I was actually shocked to see how easy it was. Took me twenty minutes, including the 15 for installation
[11:49] <gr33n7007h> ice9, because it has to partition with gpt and such dd'ing the iso just won't cut it
[11:49] <ice9> SASDOE: I don't have OSX installed only ubuntu so no way for refit, did show up with under refit?
[11:50] <sunmoon> driver selection for xubuntu 13.10 assistance, anyone able to help me?
[11:51] <SASDOE> ice9: tell me again what it is you want I got lost
[11:52] <SASDOE> got to got sorry
[11:55] <sybariten> hello!
[11:55] <sybariten> I am having apt problems, i am wondering if its because my Ubuntu is too old...   DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.10"
[11:56] <DJones> sybariten: Probably, 10.10 is end of life, its repositories will have been removed, currently supported versions are 12.04/12.10 and 13.10
[11:56] <sybariten> sudo apt-get update gives me a bunch of errors, namely problems gettign stuff like  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[11:56] <DJones> !eol | sybariten
[11:56] <sybariten> DJones: ok ...can i point to other repositories with my current OS? Or is that risky?
[11:57] <sybariten> The machine is on a vps owned by a foreign company, i am unsure a.t.m. how one upgrades these things
[11:57] <ice9> how to disable X forwarding in 13.10?
[11:58] <deathmd> Hi! I've bought a new laptop (lenovo y510p with single gt755m) and I have problems with the graphics driver. Ubuntu 13.10 is updated and I've upgraded to the latest mainline kernel 3.13.5 and grub is set to nomodeset and Ubuntu is always running in software rendering mode. When I look into the Additional Drivers Tab no drivers are listed. I've tried to install nvidia-current from terminal -> blackscreen after login, tried nvidia-33
[11:58] <deathmd> 1 from xorg-edgers ppa -> blackscreen after login. All I wanna have is that Ubuntu uses the integrated Intel GPU only with open source driver and the Nvidia GPU should be completely disabled by default as I've a Windows partition for gaming. Can anybody pls help?
[11:58] <DJones> sybariten: It is possible to connect to oldrelease.ubuntu (I forget the exact site), but I wouldn't connect to the internet with it.  Its going to be a couple of years behind for security updates and wouldn't get critical issues fixed
[11:58] <llutz> ice9: set X11Forwarding No  in  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:58] <sybariten> DJones: ah ok... hmm
[11:58] <llutz> ice9: or in your ssh config, if you want to disable it client-side
[11:59] <sybariten> DJones: thanks
[12:00] <noobb> i have noob question :D
[12:00] <gr33n7007h> noobb, go ahead an ask dude
[12:01] <noobb> i have an ubuntu server, i want to reinstall to use raid software, but i'm not sure if it is safe
[12:01] <noobb> i have 2 hdd
[12:02] <noobb> if the hdd with the installed system goes down, the server goes down or it continues with the second('cloned') system
[12:02] <noobb> if the hdd with the installed system goes down, the server goes down or it continues with the second('cloned') hdd
[12:03] <shubhamjain> It seems the json package was not included with ubuntu 13.10. i installed php5-json and php-services-json but still I get json_encode not defined.
[12:04] <gr33n7007h> kirin`, then it would be class ChildClass < ParentClass then calling super
[12:04] <blackh> hey guys, can someone help me? I have a question
[12:05] <blackh> how can i install ubuntu 14.04?
[12:05] <gr33n7007h> kirin`, oops wrong chan
[12:07] <gr33n7007h> blackh, for a new install or upgrade?
[12:07] <blackh> I have ubuntu 13.10 , and so far I love it!
[12:07] <blackh> but i want to get the 14.04 lts
[12:08] <gr33n7007h> blackh, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade when it's out
[12:08] <sunmoon> I am running xubuntu 13.10, Nvidea geforce 6600 gpu. Need assistance with functional driver selection as well as installation procedure. can anyone help me please?
[12:08] <blackh> gr33, is there a way to get it now? the beta's are out
[12:09] <ice9> llutz: I mean can I configure this from the X server it self not form the ssh
[12:09] <ice9> ?
[12:09] <buer> Hello, I pulled out nvidia graphics from machine and running onboard intel graphics ... i have working xorg.conf which works when i start it from console ... but when machine comes up it start X in failsafe and probably i dont have lightdm so its a blank screen i have to manually kill failsafe X server and restarts gdm
[12:10] <gr33n7007h> blackh, It won't be in the repos yet but you can manually download and burn it to a usb and try it out
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> blackh: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 support til release day
[12:10] <blackh> Thanks gr33!
[12:10] <gr33n7007h> blackh, np
[12:10] <blackh> Actionparnsnip, i didnt really understand what you said
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> blackh: Trusty isnt in beta til 27th March
[12:10] <Styler2go|main> hello, i have some problems setting up a ftp on my ubuntu server, can i get some help in here? seems to be a permissions problem but i dont know how to fix it. the problem is, that i can't upload files but see files. write_enables is set to yes, it is vsftpd
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> blackh: ahh thats final beta, its beta1 right now :)
[12:11] <blackh> ohh cool!
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:11] <blackh> so to install it, i have to download it and burn it?
[12:11] <gr33n7007h> blackh yeah
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> blackh: if you have to ask THAT , you probaly shouldnt use pre-releases
[12:11] <svector> Anyone using noty notification plugin?
[12:11] <svector> I'm getting noty is undefined error....
[12:11] <blackh> lol :p
[12:12] <blackh> Im kind of a noobie here
[12:12] <blackh> but I learn fast
[12:12] <svector> http://ned.im/noty/#installation
[12:12] <buer> anone knows whu ubuntu might start failsafe X when there is working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:12] <svector> Do I need to include more than <script type="text/javascript" src="js/noty/packaged/jquery.noty.packaged.min.js"></script>?
[12:12] <blackh> anyway, thanks a lot for your help guys :) much appreciated
[12:12] <gr33n7007h> blackh, download the iso then you can do something like this:     dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb* bs=512k
[12:13] <gr33n7007h> to usb disk
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> or use unetbootin
[12:13] <Styler2go|main> could anyone help me with some kind of a permissions problem in combination with vsftpd server?
[12:13] <gr33n7007h> blackh, make sure to use the correct device using sudo fdisk -l
[12:13] <blackh> I usually restart my laptop and say boot from cd
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> everything working smooth, yay
[12:14]  * Wiz_KeeD happy
[12:14] <blackh> oh, is there a way to install without having to burn the iso images on the cd?
[12:14] <gr33n7007h> or like ActionParsnip said use unetbootin quite simpler
[12:15] <blackh> is that a program?
[12:15] <buer> I downloaded virtualbox disk image ... and wrote that onto emty harddrive fro example no usb stick no cd
[12:15] <blackh> I'm very sorry for the noobish question guys
[12:15] <gr33n7007h> blackh, yes it sould be in the repos
[12:15] <blackh> and when i download unetbootin, what should i do?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> blackh: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 support
[12:15] <Styler2go|main> how can i see which permissions one folder got?
[12:16] <gr33n7007h> Styler2go|main, ls -lhas
[12:16] <blackh> how can I join that channek action?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> blackh: you can get a smoother OS by installing 12.04 which is supported til 2017
[12:16] <gr33n7007h> blackh, /j #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> blackh: you can also upgrade direct to Trusty as it is LTS to LTS
[12:16] <Styler2go|main> 4.0K dr-xr-xr--  2 lollog www-data are these permissions ok as a ftp folder which should have full access to?
[12:17] <gr33n7007h> Styler2go|main, Yeah I see no problems there
[12:17] <Styler2go|main> uhm :(
[12:18] <Styler2go|main> ftp server tells me: STOR background.png Response:    553 Could not create file. Error:    Critical file transfer error
[12:18] <gr33n7007h> Styler2go|main, you wouldn't want anything writeable in there
[12:19] <Styler2go|main> well, why not?
[12:20] <gr33n7007h> Whao, ftp totally looking at that wrong
[12:21] <gr33n7007h> Styler2go|main, change folder permission on the folder
[12:21] <llutz> Styler2go|main: if you want your user lollog bein able to write into that dir via ftp, it needs at least being 750
[12:21] <gr33n7007h> 660 is suffient
[12:21] <llutz> gr33n7007h: not for a folder
[12:22] <gr33n7007h> llutz, my bad yeah
[12:22] <Styler2go|main> if i cange it to 750 the ftp client cant connect
[12:22] <llutz> Styler2go|main: what is your ftp-user you use?
[12:22] <Styler2go|main> vsftpd
[12:22] <Styler2go|main> oh wait
[12:23] <Styler2go|main> what exactly do you mean?
[12:23] <llutz> Styler2go|main: username of the ftp-user
[12:23] <Styler2go|main> lollog
[12:23] <Styler2go|main> like the folder name
[12:24] <llutz> Styler2go|main: then 7(50) should work
[12:24] <Styler2go|main> if i change the folder to 750 i get an error if i try to connect
[12:25] <Styler2go|main> and if its not 750, i get an error when i try to write a file: 553 Could not create file
[12:25] <llutz> Styler2go|main: what error?
[12:25] <Styler2go|main> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() is the error on 750
[12:26] <llutz> Styler2go|main: aah chroot.... keep on reading about that, you have to create a new folder beneath the one above with 750
[12:26] <Styler2go|main> so my var/www shoudl have 750? and /var/www/lollog a-w?
[12:27] <Caelum> my touchpad is frozen after resume from hibernate
[12:29] <Guest31859> hi. I need to install an nvidia driver which i have already downloaded. how do i do this? can anyone assist me please?
[12:30] <gr33n7007h> Guest31859, is it a .bin file?
[12:31] <Guest31859> gr33n7007h: no, it's a .run file
[12:31] <gr33n7007h> You have to switch to tty then ./nvidia.run
[12:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest31859, You can do that but ctrl+alt+f1
[12:34] <gr33n7007h> Guest31859, So basically do a ctrl+alt+f1 then cd to where the nvidia file is chmod +x nvidiadriver.run then ./nvidiadriver.run then reboot done
[12:35] <gr33n7007h> Meh, he left
[12:36] <blackh> hahahah :p
[12:36] <Styler2go|main> so, nobody could help me with these permissions?
[12:36] <Caelum> my touchpad is completely unusable, keeps freezing
[12:37] <Caelum> this is really pissing me off
[12:38] <evenlis> Hey I get the error "Unable to load module vguimatsurface.so" when I attempt to launch hl2.sh directly from my Team Fortress 2 folder. any thoughts?
[12:38] <evenlis> Attemping to launch Team fortress 2 from steam gives no errors at all, just no results.
[12:40] <utug12> hello i need help in partitioning i need extended partition if im seperating home and root in two partition ?
[12:42] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: sorry im a bit of a noob, i ran ctr+alt+f1 and it took me to tt1 but i didn't know what to do from there or how to get back, so had to reboot.
[12:43] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, what directory is the file downloaded to?
[12:44] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: /tmp
[12:45] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, to get bk to gui it either ctrl+alt+f7 or f8 can't remember now
[12:45] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, right so open a terminal
[12:46] <Styler2go|main> where can i get more help for permissions stuff on linux/ubuntu?
[12:46] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h:terminal open
[12:46] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, cd /tmp
[12:47] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h:yeah
[12:50] <toolkitman> hi all
[12:50] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, you still there
[12:50] <Styler2go|main> please... someone help me, i am starting to despair... my ftp client now gives me the error 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/var/www/kunden/lollog/
[12:50] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: yes, still here
[12:50] <gr33n7007h> sorry bout that
[12:51] <gr33n7007h> right where were we
[12:51] <gr33n7007h> so you in the /tmp directory
[12:51] <sunmoon_> yes
[12:52] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, now type:   chmod +x whateverthenvidiadriver.run
[12:53] <the_stuntman> ok if someone can help me out with this I'd greatly appreciate it, I'm going on working on this server for 12 hours. The server hosting company is refusing to help me with the issue because its unmanaged. But I'm locked out of the machine via putty somehow. But I can connect via there java console interface through DRAC.. which is terrible. I have the firewall down, ssh on, port 22 open even with fire wall down, I have my ssh key put
[12:53] <the_stuntman> into the root. But I'm getting connection refused when trying to connect through putty
[12:55] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, have you done it?
[12:56] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: i did it but it's telling me that there is no such file or directory
[12:56] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, I thought you said the file was in /tmp
[12:56] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: it is definitely there, i think i've just made a typo
[12:57] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, what did you type exacty?
[12:58] <hello_world>  super-g
[12:58] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: chmod +x nvidia-linux-x86_64-304.64.run
[12:59] <toolkitman> hi all
[12:59] <ubuntuuser1> hi
[12:59] <toolkitm1n> hi
[12:59] <tomorti> hi
[12:59]  * the_stuntman twiddles thumbs while staring at coffee
[12:59] <ubuntuuser1> how are you?
[12:59] <toolkitman> i'm fine and you
[12:59] <ubuntuuser1> just not able to use ubuntu
[12:59] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, Well, that seems right, try it again making sure that is the exact name of the file
[13:00] <toolkitman> you need more experience
[13:00] <ubuntuuser1> master yoda
[13:00] <toolkitman> no obionekenobi
[13:00]  * the_stuntman slams head on keyboard coming to the end of his rope
[13:00] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: do capitals matter?
[13:00] <the_stuntman> yes sunmoon_ linux is touchy that way
[13:00] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, Yes
[13:00] <tomorti> hi
[13:01] <toolkitm1n> ghe sboro
[13:01] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, Linux is case sensitive
[13:01] <sunmoon_>  gr33n7007h:k, doing it now
[13:01] <ubuntuuser1> sul serio
[13:01] <gordonjcp> sunmoon_: why are you fiddling about with that?
[13:01] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, kk
[13:01] <gordonjcp> !nvidia | sunmoon_
[13:01] <tomorti> davvero
[13:01] <tomorti> anca neo
[13:02] <the_stuntman> does anyone mind if I ask the question again in a few minutes so it doesn't get lost?
[13:02] <segia> hi all
[13:03] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, Has it worked
[13:03] <segia> irssi -c irc.freenode.org -p6667 -n seya
[13:03] <segyia> hi all
[13:03] <segia> hi
[13:04] <toolkitman> hi
[13:04] <tomorti> hi
[13:04] <toolkitm1n> hi
[13:04] <ubuntuuser1> hi
[13:04] <segia> hi
[13:04] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: I pressed enter and it hasn't given me any errorr, so assume so
[13:04] <the_stuntman> ok if someone can help me out with this I'd greatly appreciate it, I'm going on working on this server for 12 hours. The server hosting company is refusing to help me with the issue because its unmanaged. But I'm locked out of the machine via putty somehow. But I can connect via there java console interface through DRAC.. which is terrible. I have the firewall down, ssh on, port 22 open even with fire wall down, I have my ssh key put
[13:04] <the_stuntman> into the root. But I'm getting connection refused when trying to connect through putty
[13:04] <tommyhilfigher> hi
[13:04] <segia> hi
[13:05] <Busybyeski> hi
[13:05] <toolkitm1n> hi
[13:05] <segyia> hi
[13:05] <segyia> hi
[13:05] <toolkitman> hi
[13:05] <tomorti> hi
[13:05] <toolkitman> hi
[13:05] <tgunr> How do i find out which package installs jdb, which seems to be missing from my install
[13:05] <tanti> hi
[13:05] <tgunr> of java
[13:05] <ubuntuuser1> hi
[13:05] <segyia> hi
[13:06] <tomorti> hi
[13:06] <toolkitman> hi
[13:06] <tommyhilfigher> hi
[13:06] <DeusDeceit> hi
[13:06] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, right switch to tty and type: cd /tmp press enter then type: ./nvidiafile.run then reboot
[13:06] <ubuntuuser1> ciao
[13:06] <DeusDeceit> Γειά
[13:06] <tgunr> I thought if I installed tomcat it would install all the dependencys
[13:06] <tanti> goodbye
[13:07] <tomorti> goodbye
[13:07] <rommel> tgunr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=298712 something like this maybe
[13:07] <marianne> hi guys, my search isn't working ... anyone know the group name for Red Hat?
[13:07] <tgunr> looking
[13:07] <DeusDeceit> I have 4 partitions, one system reserved, swap, windows, ubuntu... they are all primary and i can't create a new one now :/ Anyone knows a solution to this? (I have 500 GB unallocated. waste!)
[13:08] <Guest69847> I think the ubuntu channel is the busiest channel of them all
[13:08] <sunmoon_> gr33n7007h: ok cool, to get to tty i just do ctrl+alt+f2 again right?
[13:08] <rommel> tgunr, i just googled apt-get jdb and that was amounst the results
[13:08] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, ctrl+alt+f1
[13:08] <llutz> DeusDeceit: backup, remove the last partition before unallocated starts, create extended using full size, create logical drives, install again
[13:09] <Guest69847> Why does Econnman conflict with Network-Manager?
[13:09] <tgunr> i was thinking jdb was a debugger
[13:09] <DeusDeceit> llutz, last partition is swap, is it easy to do what you said without re-installing ubuntu?
[13:09] <llutz> DeusDeceit: perfect, yes, just remove swap,
[13:10] <sunmoon_> gr33n&007h:cool. will report back in a little bit. thanks.
[13:10] <gr33n7007h> sunmoon_, np dude
[13:10] <rommel> llutz, DeusDeceit how large is the swap partition
[13:10] <DeusDeceit> llutz, 4GB
[13:10] <llutz> DeusDeceit: you can re-create swap later as logical drive inside the extended partition
[13:10] <DeusDeceit> rommel, 4GB (my bad)
[13:11] <rommel> DeusDeceit, so you will be able to have logical inside that 4gb extended
[13:11] <llutz> DeusDeceit: i'd use a live-cd to do that, but it would work from running ubuntu too
[13:11] <rommel> i would knoppix
[13:11] <DeusDeceit> llutz, if i do that, will ubuntu recognize it automatically? or i need to do more stuff than just that?
[13:12] <llutz> DeusDeceit: you will have to change swap UUID in /etc/fstab later
[13:12] <the_stuntman> I'm going to attempt to do apt-get autoremove openssh-server and then reinstall it
[13:12] <the_stuntman> maybe that will fix my issues >.o
[13:13] <DeusDeceit> llutz, I will try that... if i get lost i'll be right back :P Thank you both llutz, rommel
[13:13] <llutz> DeusDeceit: so again: you remove your 4GB primary swap, create a new extended partition using all unallocated space, create then a new 4GB swap inside that extende
[13:13] <llutz> extended
[13:13] <DeusDeceit> llutz, yup, i got it
[13:14] <llutz> DeusDeceit: after that you can create other logical drives
[13:15] <DeusDeceit> llutz, thanks again, time to start the process. over :)
[13:15] <llutz> good luck
[13:16] <Guest69847> Whatis the BTRS filesystem good for?
[13:19] <the_stuntman> when running netcat on this remote terminal I'm getting "nc: connect to 127.0.0.1 port 22 (tcp) failed: connection refused" any clues on fixing this?
[13:20] <llutz> the_stuntman: check if anything/what is listening there "sudo lsof -i :22"
[13:20] <SASDOE> is there a way to manually change AP on the same SSID?
[13:22] <the_stuntman> I get two responses 1lutz. I get "sshd 29792 root 3r IPv4 58746 0t0 tcp *:ssh (listen"
[13:22] <the_stuntman> and the other one is identical except for 4u and IPv6 and a different device number
[13:23] <the_stuntman> HOLY HELL I JUST GOT IN
[13:23] <the_stuntman> I removed the sshd_config file, reinstalled the openssh-server
[13:23] <the_stuntman> restarted the server
[13:24] <the_stuntman> and presto, it let me log in with a user I created earlier
[13:24] <llutz> the_stuntman: compare the old sshd_config with the actual one to see what you messed up
[13:24] <the_stuntman> funny part 1lutz, I haven't touched that file since getting this server. lol
[13:24] <tgunr> I am having great trouble getting tomcat7 to run under ubuntu 12.04, I have installed the tomcat7 and libmysql-java packages, set up my JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java but executing bin/startup.sh results in error when the call to classpath.sh in the catalina.sh when it checks for $JAVA_HOME/bin/jdb and $JAVA_HOME/bin/javac, what is supposed to install these? I assumed installing tomcat7 would install the needed dependencies.
[13:25] <llutz> preinstalled distro on vps? the_stuntman
[13:25] <the_stuntman> yerps
[13:25] <llutz> the_stuntman: change vps-provider
[13:26] <the_stuntman> oh don't worry
[13:26] <the_stuntman> thats why I've been trying to gain access to this machine
[13:26] <the_stuntman> we're changing provider in 3 days
[13:26] <llutz> the_stuntman: perfect  ;)
[13:26] <myfirstmac> HI
[13:27] <myfirstmac> yoda
[13:27] <myfirstmac> my master
[13:29] <OBIONEKENOBI> OH NO!
[13:29] <lost_and_unfound> Greetings, we just had a power failure, and it seems ubuntu (12.04) detected my drives in the incorrect order. Now I must have a USB memstick in for my PC to boot. I have seen this before. Is there any suggestions for a gui grub application? I do not have time currently to go throu the execersize currently with deadlines waiting. Thanks
[13:30] <OerHeks> !rootirc | OBIONEKENOBI DARTHMAUL
[13:30] <OBIONEKENOBI> it's nor my fault
[13:31] <OBIONEKENOBI> !ubottu
[13:31] <OBIONEKENOBI> ! ubottu ciao
[13:31] <OBIONEKENOBI> !ubottu ciao
[13:31] <OBIONEKENOBI> !ubottu
[13:32] <fidel> NEO: do you need help or just want to play with the bot? ;)
[13:33] <DARTHMAUL> just want to paly
[13:33] <hggdh> Guest20016: may I suggest you to play somewhere else?
[13:34] <ubotti> !ubotto
[13:34] <EminentDomain2> oh my... crossFTP is the best
[13:35] <EminentDomain2> so much better than filezilla
[13:35] <VlperX> eh
[13:35] <EminentDomain2> or cyberduck (for windows)
[13:35] <gartral> EminentDomain2: yup
[13:35] <VlperX> getting this 'Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied'
[13:35] <EminentDomain2> it supports webdav and you can adjust the number of thread
[13:35] <gartral> EminentDomain2: though I prefer nautilus' intergration
[13:35] <VlperX> and `/etc/init.d/screen-cleanup start` does not work
[13:36] <EminentDomain2> i liked that but i am trying to upload 2.5TB and it kept crashing gartral
[13:36] <EminentDomain2> also with nautilus you cant adjust the number of threads it can use in copying
[13:36] <gartral> EminentDomain2: yea, you'll run into problems with that amount of data
[13:36] <EminentDomain2> yea crossftp is doing amazing
[13:36] <EminentDomain2> 25MB/s
[13:36] <EminentDomain2> 20 threads
[13:37] <EminentDomain2> took me a while to find this
[13:37] <gartral> EminentDomain2: link?
[13:37] <OBIONEKENOBI> hi all
[13:37] <OBIONEKENOBI> !ubooto
[13:38] <mo0n_sniper> hello all
[13:38] <EminentDomain2> gartral... http://www.crossftp.com/
[13:38] <OBIONEKENOBI> !ubootu
[13:38] <ikonia> OBIONEKENOBI: stop
[13:38] <mo0n_sniper> how do I set the date format system wide?
[13:38] <EminentDomain2> but it's in the ubuntu store
[13:38] <gartral> OBIONEKENOBI: first, turn off caps for your name please, then learn to type >.>
[13:38] <ikonia> OBIONEKENOBI: you've just been asked top stop this using a different nickname
[13:38] <OBIONEKENOBI> what's the problem
[13:38] <OBIONEKENOBI> ban me
[13:38] <ikonia> OBIONEKENOBI: there should be no need, just explain your ubuntu problem clearly and get help
[13:38] <EminentDomain2> whats the issue?
[13:39] <OBIONEKENOBI> ok no ubuntu problem
[13:39] <gartral> ikonia: obvious troll is obvious :\
[13:39] <OBIONEKENOBI> i'm not using ubuntu right now
[13:39] <ikonia> OBIONEKENOBI: ok, please wait quietly until you have a useful contribution to the ubuntu support channel
[13:39] <obionekenobi> ok
[13:39] <ikonia> thanks
[13:39] <obionekenobi> no problem
[13:40] <EminentDomain2> gartral... crossftp is a paid app to get all the features (such as webdav support) but i'm sure you can figure out how to avoid paying if you were so inclined
[13:40] <mo0n_sniper> how do I change the date format system wide?
[13:40] <EminentDomain2> mo0n_sniper: server or desktop?
[13:40] <gartral> EminentDomain2: sadly, yea.. this isn't free.. I'll use terminal for large transfers
[13:40] <mo0n_sniper> server
[13:40] <obionekenobi> write /date -- -- --
[13:40] <mo0n_sniper> command line please :)
[13:41] <obionekenobi> write date
[13:41] <EminentDomain2> gartral: yea... do you know how to set the terminal to use more threads?  cuz that's what i was using
[13:41] <EminentDomain2> but i couldnt figure that part out
[13:41] <EminentDomain2> mo0n_sniper
[13:42] <mo0n_sniper> EminentDomain2: it doesn work
[13:42] <mo0n_sniper> [root@syrinx:~ ]# write /date "%Y-%m-%d" write: /date is not logged in on %Y-%m-%d
[13:42] <EminentDomain2> mo0n_sniper: date --set="STRING"
[13:42] <EminentDomain2> what doesnt work?  i didnt suggest anything
[13:42] <mo0n_sniper> EminentDomain2: thanks, is it persistent?
[13:42] <obionekenobi> why you dont make it from the control pamnel
[13:43] <EminentDomain2>  date -s "6 MAR 2014 8:45:00"
[13:43] <mo0n_sniper> I don't have X installed
[13:43] <EminentDomain2> obionekenobi he doesnt have a gui... he's using the server build
[13:43] <obionekenobi> ok
[13:43] <chmode> hi people
[13:43] <obionekenobi> i undeerstand
[13:43] <obionekenobi> write date help
[13:43] <mo0n_sniper> EminentDomain2: I don't want to set the date, I want to set the date format used
[13:43] <EminentDomain2> oh
[13:44] <EminentDomain2> from a 24hr clock to 12?
[13:44] <EminentDomain2> or change the date itself
[13:44] <gr33n7007h> mo0n_sniper, http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-date-formats-on-ubuntu/
[13:44] <mo0n_sniper> EminentDomain2: what gr33n7007h said
[13:44] <mo0n_sniper> thanks gr33n7007h  :)
[13:45] <gr33n7007h> mo0n_sniper, np
[13:45] <EminentDomain2> lol
[13:45] <EminentDomain2> i thought he was trying to set the date
[13:45] <EminentDomain2> and time
[13:45] <gartral> EminentDomain2: good question i've never looked into it :\
[13:45] <obionekenobi> write date help you have all the command
[13:46] <EminentDomain2> gartral: yea i was having trouble figuring that out...   for some reason i was only getting about 2MB/s upload to my cloud storage
[13:46] <EminentDomain2> i thought it was my cloud provider and submitted a ticket
[13:46] <obionekenobi> dick
[13:47] <EminentDomain2> i should be doing roughly 200mbps as the spedtest to their location said i was getting that on my upload end with a 56ms response time
[13:47] <EminentDomain2> traceroute was short and no timeouts
[13:47] <obionekenobi> what are you using 200mps?
[13:47] <EminentDomain2> 200mbps
[13:47] <obionekenobi> yes
[13:47] <obionekenobi> optical fiber?
[13:47] <EminentDomain2> it's a datacenter
[13:48] <EminentDomain2> so probably
[13:48] <gartral> hey all, i have 2 seperate issues, both seem to be Ubuntu-specific, first off, I can't stably use a VM, though my hardware supports VT-d and other virtualisation subsystems.. second is when I reboot, my session is screwed, several apps load up and my monitors are overlapped, this only happens on my account
[13:48] <EminentDomain2> it's OVH
[13:48] <VlperX> Can anyone help me with this? 'Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied'
[13:49] <obionekenobi> what means screwed
[13:49] <gartral> VlperX: use sudo, make the dir with root
[13:49] <VlperX> I was just thinking of doing that
[13:49] <VlperX> it's probably that simple..
[13:49] <gartral> obionekenobi: i'm not even dignifying that with an answer
[13:50] <obionekenobi> let us understand
[13:51] <obionekenobi> you dont explain correctly
[13:51] <gartral> obionekenobi: screwed is screwed, as in screwed up
[13:51] <obionekenobi> avvitata what this means locked?
[13:52] <gartral> obvious troll needs a chanban
[13:52] <EminentDomain2> obionekenobi: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3352322902
[13:53] <EminentDomain2> upload is capped right now cuz i'm uploading 2.5TB of data
[13:53] <EminentDomain2> for anyone looking for unlimited cloud storage OpenDrive offers it 12.95 a month
[13:53] <obionekenobi> ok
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> support webdav :-)
[13:54] <xyzwhatever> hey how many partitions does ubuntu need?
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> one
[13:54] <xyzwhatever> okk
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> like all OSes
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> well except win7
[13:54] <xyzwhatever> i thought it used to be like one for swap one for boot one for stuff etc
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> cuz it always sets a 100mb partition for some stupid reason
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> best practice is to have a swap
[13:54] <EminentDomain2> but it's not required
[13:54] <obionekenobi> windows?
[13:54] <xyzwhatever> i dont want
[13:55] <DJones> xyzwhatever: Generally, a lot of people use 3 partitions, one for "/", one for "/swap" and one for "/home"
[13:55] <EminentDomain2> i would use a swap partition
[13:55] <EminentDomain2> why wouldnt you want one?
[13:55] <obionekenobi> how many ram do you have
[13:56] <gartral> EminentDomain2: swap is a good idea, though a partition isn't *needed* you can use a swapfile
[13:56] <EminentDomain2> but technically swapspace is on a file
[13:56] <xyzwhatever> i have 16gb ram no need for swap then or what
[13:56] <EminentDomain2> gartral yea
[13:56] <obionekenobi> better to have it
[13:56] <DJones> xyzwhatever: Do you use suspend?
[13:56] <EminentDomain2> i forgot that part... lol
[13:56] <xyzwhatever> maybe yes DJones
[13:56] <EminentDomain2> also what do you plan to do with the machine
[13:56] <EminentDomain2> 16GB may not bbe as much as you'd think
[13:57] <obionekenobi> 250gb is the best+
[13:57] <EminentDomain2> i've got 196GB and still use Swap
[13:57] <gartral> EminentDomain2: holey... wow
[13:57] <DJones> xyzwhatever: Then you'll need swap at least as big your memory, if you've got 16Gb of data/apps in memory, when you use suspend/hibernate, it will need to save that to swap
[13:57] <EminentDomain2> but then again it's actually a vm assigned 32GB
[13:57] <EminentDomain2> so.... in actuality it's different
[13:57] <EminentDomain2> the vm host has 196GB
[13:57] <xyzwhatever> doesnt ubuntu make a swap partition automatically
[13:58] <obionekenobi> use 2000mb of swap is not necessary more
[13:58] <EminentDomain2> i think so, but you can specif not to... it makes a swap file automatically
[13:58] <EminentDomain2> not a whole partition unless you tell it to
[13:58] <EminentDomain2> kinda like the pagefile.sys in windows
[13:58] <hggdh> xyzwhatever: on a standard install yes, a swap partition is automatically created
[13:58] <EminentDomain2> is it a partition or just a swapfile on the same partition?
[13:59] <gartral> EminentDomain2: both can work
[13:59] <hggdh> by default, a partition
[13:59] <EminentDomain2> ah
[13:59] <gartral> and in extreame cases, i've seen both at once
[13:59] <EminentDomain2> ok
[13:59] <EminentDomain2> didnt realize it made the partition by default
[14:00] <xyzwhatever> why does my new laptop have 2 7GB partitions that I cannot delete during install
[14:00] <xyzwhatever> maybe some HP stuff
[14:00] <EminentDomain2> shouldnt mattr
[14:00] <EminentDomain2> did you try using gparted to delete them?
[14:00] <EminentDomain2> or whatever partition editor ubuntu uses now
[14:00] <xyzwhatever> no maybe it will break it
[14:01] <EminentDomain2> break it?
[14:01] <EminentDomain2> how?
[14:01] <EminentDomain2> are you just putting ubuntu on it?
[14:01] <xyzwhatever> and win8 dualboot
[14:01] <EminentDomain2> have you already installed windows 8?
[14:01] <EminentDomain2> cuz i would hose the whole thing. repartition it the way you want
[14:01] <EminentDomain2> then install ubuntu
[14:02] <EminentDomain2> or windows 8 then ubuntu
[14:02] <obionekenobi> i hav e8.1 pro
[14:02] <obionekenobi> not invincible
[14:02] <VlperX> gartral, after another reboot, the dir is gone
[14:02] <EminentDomain2> i find dealing with ubuntu after installing windows is easier
[14:03] <gartral> VlperX: that's... odd
[14:03] <VlperX> quite
[14:03] <obionekenobi> ubuntu is easy to install
[14:03] <EminentDomain2> especially if you plan to use grub
[14:03] <obionekenobi> just put the cd
[14:03] <EminentDomain2> ...
[14:03] <obionekenobi> no need to swap or partition
[14:03] <gartral> grub = <3
[14:03] <the_stuntman> I'm getting this, anyone know why?
[14:03] <the_stuntman> nc -v -z 127.0.0.1 21
[14:03] <the_stuntman> nc: connect to 127.0.0.1 port 21 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
[14:03] <EminentDomain2> yes there is obionekenobi'
[14:03] <OerHeks> VlperX,why do you want to make a folder in /var/run/  as empty folders are deleted sometime during boot?
[14:03] <EminentDomain2> there is no one size fits all
[14:03] <the_stuntman> I just went through and double checked my iptables and it seems port 21 is open
[14:04] <EminentDomain2> do u have ssh the_stuntman
[14:04] <VlperX> OerHeks, because this 'Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied'
[14:04] <obionekenobi> i will be back
[14:04] <the_stuntman> yes
[14:04] <EminentDomain2> then tht is why
[14:04] <the_stuntman> I need port 21 open and available for my clients to connect to there servers
[14:04] <EminentDomain2> if you are running an ssh server then you need 21 open
[14:04] <OerHeks> VlperX, yes, but why do you want to make a folder there?
[14:04] <somsip> VlperX: what are you doign that is causing that error?
[14:04] <EminentDomain2> the server needs it open
[14:04] <llutz> EminentDomain2: ssh is 22 default
[14:04] <VlperX> running the screen command
[14:04] <VlperX> someone,
[14:04] <EminentDomain2> oh oops
[14:04] <VlperX> derp
[14:04] <EminentDomain2> shit right
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> derp
[14:05] <somsip> VlperX: as sudo? Or as normal user?
[14:05] <the_stuntman> yeah was going to say, where are you going with this lol
[14:05] <VlperX> normal
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> 21 is ftp
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> lolz
[14:05] <gartral> EminentDomain2: please dont swear
[14:05] <the_stuntman> XD
[14:05] <VlperX> it needs to run as a standard user
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> swear?
[14:05] <somsip> VlperX: then you possible have permissions wrong for /var/run
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> oh sh**
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> my bad
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> lol
[14:05] <llutz> !enter | EminentDomain2
[14:05] <VlperX> somsip, what should they be?
[14:05] <EminentDomain2> i got HBO
[14:06] <the_stuntman> any other thoughts?
[14:06] <EminentDomain2> the_stuntman do you have an FTP server?
[14:06] <llutz> the_stuntman: is there anything listening on 21/tcp at all?
[14:06] <somsip> VlperX: just checking. I use tmux so maybe the process is different...brb
[14:06] <the_stuntman> multicraft is listening on port 21 1lutz
[14:06] <obionekenobi> back
[14:06] <VlperX> not sure what tmux is.. I'm using 12.04 LTS
[14:07] <EminentDomain2> well make it listend elsewhere
[14:07] <obionekenobi> try 13.10
[14:07] <the_stuntman> as far as I know, yes EminentDomain2 but I did just get this server back from a admin who didn't exactly know what there doing
[14:07] <EminentDomain2> well if they installed ftp server then it's listening on 21 by default
[14:07] <somsip> VlperX: root:root 777 here, but it's a symlink to /run which is root:root 775
[14:07] <EminentDomain2> unless they changed it
[14:07] <VlperX> somsip, indeed
[14:08] <EminentDomain2> also, if you are using minecraft and have it set to 21 as the listening port then it will be open
[14:08] <EminentDomain2> it has to be open to accept connections
[14:08] <VlperX> i'll just put those in and see what happens
[14:08] <obionekenobi> i have a problem with wireshark
[14:08] <EminentDomain2> put what in?
[14:08] <obionekenobi> doesent recognize my wifi
[14:08] <VlperX> EminentDomain, wouldn't you like to know?
[14:09] <EminentDomain2> obionekenobi sounds like a wireshark issue.. this is #ubuntu
[14:09] <setra> I wrote a wrapper for ssh X tunneling to distinguish between users, because I have a shelluser which has no home directory. It works not so bad, but the problem is that I can not establish a connection from the remote directly to an X app (xeyes) but in the shell it works.
[14:09] <obionekenobi> ahahahah
[14:09] <llutz> the_stuntman: and you're sure it listens on localhost too? sudo lsof -i:21
[14:09] <somsip> VlperX: maybe relavant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen/+bug/871879
[14:10] <llutz> the_stuntman: space missing, sudo lsof -i :21
[14:10] <somsip> VlperX: or even http://is.gd/fK4owW
[14:10] <the_stuntman> multicraf 31124 minecraft    8u  IPv4  51628      0t0  TCP h5-152-205-74.host.redstation.co.uk:ftp (LISTEN)
[14:10] <the_stuntman> thats what I got out of that 1lutz
[14:10] <setra> I get the message X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication ???
[14:10] <gr33n7007h> ss -ant | grep :21
[14:11] <obionekenobi> i dont know there is a channe for wireshark?
[14:11] <llutz> the_stuntman: well, and  h5-152-205-74.host.redstation.co.uk resolves to localhost/127.0.0.1?
[14:11] <somsip> !alis | obionekenobi
[14:11] <the_stuntman> the message is a little long to post gr33n7007h
[14:12] <the_stuntman> but its listening 5.152.205.74:21 *:*
[14:12] <VlperX> somsip, i'll have to check those out. changing the perms didn't work
[14:12] <llutz> the_stuntman: but not on 127.0.0.1 therefor the connection refused
[14:12] <the_stuntman> oh I see
[14:12] <Odarys> one of the tty devices is a usb-debug port, and I need all the data that flows to that debug port, to be instead perm-redirected to a file
[14:12] <the_stuntman> so no wonder if would be blocked
[14:12] <somsip> VlperX: both of those refer to permissions problems for different reasons. They might give you something to go on.
[14:12] <Odarys> o not cat /dev/ttyxxx > ...
[14:13] <obionekenobi> i like this sunny day
[14:13] <VlperX> I found one which suggested running a cleanup command, but that did nothing
[14:17] <Caelum> what is the dist name of 14
[14:17] <DJones> !trusty | Caelum
[14:17] <the_stuntman> getting another wierd issue 1lutz when trying to connect through ftp I'm getting a connection time out but through ssh its succeeding
[14:17] <VlperX> after assigning 777 to /run, it now attempts to open a screen but closes with 'No more PTYs'
[14:18] <the_stuntman> http://pastebin.com/DB0nj56B
[14:18] <Caelum> thank you
[14:18] <the_stuntman> theres everything you guys always ask me to do :p
[14:19] <somsip> VlperX: loads of search results for 'screen no more ptys'. I could link them, but easier for you to search
[14:19] <VlperX> k
[14:19] <llutz> the_stuntman: haven#t you told there is no ftpd listening at all? what is "multicraft"
[14:19] <the_stuntman> its a minecraft control panel that can automatically provision servers for clients through an application called winscp
[14:19] <VlperX> ha. more permissions issues
[14:20] <the_stuntman> wait not winscp
[14:20] <the_stuntman> god I'm tired
[14:20] <llutz> the_stuntman: with ftp functionality?
[14:20] <somsip> VlperX: something's being messing your server around...
[14:20] <somsip> *been
[14:20] <the_stuntman> yes, it has ftp functionality.. well its supposed to anyways
[14:20] <VlperX> nah there's been some issues with screen
[14:20] <llutz> the_stuntman: sorry i never heard of that, can't help
[14:20] <the_stuntman> its cool 1lutz you've helped a lot already
[14:20] <VlperX> although i read that upgrading to precise fixes it.. i'm already on it
[14:21] <somsip> VlperX: each to their own, but tmux has always been fine for me...
[14:21] <mistawright> I need some advice. I had my server load jump up to a 100 last night for a quite a bit of time. How am I able to track down the cause of the load?
[14:22] <gartral> hey all, i have 2 seperate issues, both seem to be Ubuntu-specific, first off, I can't stably use a VM, though my hardware supports VT-d and other virtualisation subsystems.. second is when I reboot, my session is screwed, several apps load up and my monitors are overlapped, this only happens on my account
[14:23] <VlperX> mistawright, well what was running at the time?
[14:23] <Rubas> Hi guys, how do I make chown the www to a user?
[14:23] <WMWARE> hi all
[14:23] <VlperX> somsip, anyway, # chmod 666 /dev/pty* fixed it
[14:24] <VlperX> i'll reboot and see how it goes
[14:24] <somsip> Rubas: better to add the user to www-data group (more than likely)
[14:24] <Rubas> how do I do that somsip?
[14:24] <somsip> VlperX: unexpected, but glad you got the result
[14:24] <VlperX> we'll see yet =P
[14:24] <mistawright> VlperX, a web application I have up that allows customers to list items to amazon
[14:24] <gartral> Rubas: sudo chown user:group
[14:25] <VlperX> somsip, yep it's good after a rboot
[14:25] <VlperX> reboot, even
[14:25] <VlperX> thanks for your help
[14:25] <llutz> the_stuntman: it's accepting ftp-connections, at least via telnet. check your client
[14:25] <somsip> Rubas: this *may* be solution. Make sure it will do what you want first http://is.gd/JVOVQG
[14:25] <somsip> VlperX: your welcome
[14:25] <somsip> *'re
[14:25] <the_stuntman> I'm using latest version of winscp
[14:25] <mistawright> VlperX, the load doesnt seem to be caused by traffic as I had the site being monitored by nagios and nothing arose until 9 eastern time last night and the load jumped to 100 percent before subsiding 10 minutes later
[14:25] <VlperX> I painfully refrained from correcting you
[14:25] <gartral> Rubas: or for more than one file, sudo chown -r user:group dir
[14:25] <the_stuntman> maybe I should try it on filezilla?
[14:25] <somsip> VlperX: fingers...cramping...must...correct...grammar...
[14:26] <VlperX> painful in so many ways
[14:26] <Rubas> works perfect! :D
[14:26] <the_stuntman> 1lutz getting the same thing on filezilla
[14:26] <VlperX> mistawright, that's a very difficult thing to troubleshoot if that's all the info you have. You'll just have to wait for it to happen again
[14:26] <llutz> the_stuntman: "220 Multicraft 1.8.2 FTP server"  connects fine, try filezilla or any other ftp-client. not sure if winscp can use ftp at all
[14:26] <VlperX> as far as I know
[14:27] <VlperX> ergh filezilla
[14:27] <mistawright> ill give amazon a call they may be able to shed light on the situation
[14:27] <somsip> mistawright: agreed with VlperX. Then can be tricky enough to track when they are happening as you watch. Unless you have a whole load of 'everything being logged all of the time' it might be very difficult to backtrack
[14:28] <somsip> mistawright: IO time if it's Amazon AWS with an EBS then...
[14:29] <mistawright> somsip, the root device is ebs
[14:30] <somsip> mistawright: check your disk R/W operations in the Monitoring tab on your Dashboard. The other graphs there can be helpful in identifying the issue, if not the direct cause. But EBS (stanard) max out at fairly low levels of IOPS if there is some heavy r/w access going on for some job
[14:30] <gr33n7007h> So what's ubuntu's choice of media player now?
[14:31] <mistawright> somsip, I see a spike in dis read and writes around the time
[14:31] <somsip> mistawright: there you go then. It might be something to go on. Is it a webserver, is it 12.04 and have you fixed the PHP session cleanup bug?
[14:32] <mistawright> somsip, it is running precise and no I wasn't aware of a php session cleanup bug
[14:33] <somsip> mistawright: the PHP garbage collection cronjob user fuser which is a killer aparently (dunno why). There is a fix. I'll try to find a decent summary on a webpage to link for you
[14:33] <hs366> Q: do i need to insatll icedtea-7-plugin openjdk-X-jre
[14:33] <hs366> if i have java version "1.8.0"
[14:33] <hs366> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-b129)
[14:33] <hs366> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.0-b69, mixed mode)
[14:33] <mistawright> somsip, thanks If that is the case I need to have this fix in across multiple servers
[14:33] <somsip> mistawright: I had to, so it's worth trying: http://is.gd/LmJFWg
[14:34] <craigbass1976> I followed some instructions here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html and can't figure out how to determine which version of pipelight I've got running.
[14:34] <craigbass1976> but it's running.
[14:34] <hs366> i have some problem when i run freemind application , then it error for java application
[14:35] <the_stuntman> 1lutz I wonder if I install vsftpd if it'll fix the problem :/?
[14:35] <xyzwhatever> buy brandnew computer, try to install ubuntu, error during install, great...
[14:35] <somsip> mistawright: but do read more around it and see what you think. Second-source is always a good idea for production server tweaking
[14:35] <xyzwhatever> I think ill try mint
[14:35] <llutz> the_stuntman: try it, just remember to stop multicraft" before
[14:36] <VlperX> xyzwhatever, what kind of error?
[14:36] <mistawright> somsip, second-source?
[14:36] <kudu91> wassup
[14:36] <somsip> mistawright: read it from more than one place. Eg: http://is.gd/87P4Mo
[14:37] <xyzwhatever> VlperX: something about keyboard input program crashed, and then unrecoverable error starting desktop session
[14:37] <craigbass1976> xyzwhatever, you'll probably get the same error in Mint if you use the Ubuntu version.  Debian version is another can of worms.  I've been happy with both, just warning you.
[14:37] <kudu91> eh i liked gnome 2 better.....
[14:37] <kudu91> debian is a pain due to the wifi set-up though
[14:38] <xyzwhatever> the problem is already why can you only enter a password for wlan during install and not a username? so i cannot connect to the internet
[14:38] <kudu91> yeah, i know
[14:38] <craigbass1976> kudu91, Oddly enough, I had an acer laptop where the ubuntu (and ubuntu mint) installs' wifi crapped out intermittently.  No such issue with the debian mint.
[14:39] <kudu91> i'm only speaking of the setting up of the wifi
[14:40] <kudu91> on the 7.4 wheezy
[14:40] <kudu91> you have to download the drivers etc, it's a huge pain
[14:40] <Odarys> I want to redirect (reroute?) everything that goes to and from /dev/ttyAT0 into a /tmp/log.file, how would I do that?
[14:41] <ice9> how to allow virtualbox access usb?
[14:41] <ice9> it can access usb if I launched it as root only
[14:41] <Vanilla-Midgit> So is Mate desktop already in the repository or will that be later?
[14:42] <llutz> ice9: add your user to he vboxusers group
[14:42] <somsip> Vanilla-Midgit: for 14.04 IIRC
[14:42] <ice9> llutz: how do I add a group without removing the current ones?
[14:42] <llutz> ice9: sudo adduser username vboxusers
[14:42] <kudu91> anyone else using irssi?
[14:43] <llutz> !anyone | kudu91
[14:43] <ice9> llutz: I don't see vboxusers at all
[14:43] <ice9> how to get all existing groups in a system?
[14:43] <llutz> ice9: getent group
[14:43] <kudu91> mk
[14:43] <Vanilla-Midgit> someone, Will that be Mate 1.8? And if I install the current build will I be able to install Mate from the repository?
[14:44] <llutz> 14.04 | Vanilla-Midgit:
[14:44] <llutz> !14.04 | Vanilla-Midgit:
[14:44] <somsip> !info mate trusty | Vanilla-Midgit (but more questions should go in #ubuntu+1, even if this works)
[14:44] <llutz> !info mate-desktop trusty
[14:45] <Vanilla-Midgit> ok thanks
[14:45] <somsip> llutz: ta
[14:45] <ice9> llutz: is there a way to make this change effective withotu relogin?
[14:45] <llutz> ice9: no
[14:46] <the_stuntman> 1lutz I fixed my issue by restarting the multicraft service
[14:46] <xyzwhatever> helps, I have windows installed on /dev/sda3 now during ubuntu installation I have two choices for  "device for boot loader installation":  /dev/sda or /dev/sda3
[14:47] <the_stuntman> thanks so much for you help bud
[14:47] <Maddeth> Afternoon all, anyone able to help with an ACL issue?
[14:47] <llutz> the_stuntman: restart ... works most of the time :(  btw its LL not 1Lutz :)
[14:48] <the_stuntman> LOL, its that fact that I've been drinking coffee for 15 hours straight and haven't slept
[14:49] <the_stuntman> you know, I might just restart this whole server, who the heck knows when it was last restarted lol
[14:50] <llutz> the_stuntman: who -b
[14:50] <somsip> the_stuntman: sounds like you need a reboot too ;-)
[14:50] <llutz> somsip: more a suspend-to-bed
[14:50] <somsip> llutz: hehe :)
[14:51] <the_stuntman> wierd.. system boot  2013-02-06 23:40
[14:51] <the_stuntman> I know I didn't restart that server 0.o
[14:51] <the_stuntman> oh wait
[14:51] <the_stuntman> thats says 2013
[14:51] <the_stuntman> lol
[14:51] <the_stuntman> oh dear lord, am I readin that correctly?
[14:51] <llutz> the_stuntman: yuo
[14:51] <the_stuntman> has it really not been restarted for a year starting today?
[14:51] <llutz> p
[14:52] <the_stuntman> oh dear lord no wonder this server has issues lol
[14:52] <xyzwhatever> what file system does one use these days? ext4?
[14:52] <the_stuntman> I'm going to go outside and laugh hysterically for a few minutes while I smoke a cigarette
[14:52] <gartral> xyzwhatever: ext4 for woekstation.. ext3 for servers
[14:53] <xyzwhatever> ok i guess I am workstation
[14:54] <xyzwhatever> and how much swap space u use for 16gb ram?
[14:54] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, anything above 4gb you don't need swap
[14:55] <xyzwhatever> okk
[14:55] <llutz> xyzwhatever: are you going to use hibernation? then >16Gb, else 1GB is more than enough
[14:55] <somsip> xyzwhatever: Depends on your use case. I have 8GB swap with 8GB RAM but don't believe it gets used. If you are editing large videos it could be a different matter though
[14:58] <SeaSki> HALP! How do I switch between tty1 and tty2 without closing term?
[14:59] <llutz> SeaSki: alt-f1 - alt-f2
[14:59] <marz> Can anyone help me set up dwm on my ubuntu laptop?
[14:59] <somsip> marz: still? that's about 5 days now isn't it?
[15:00] <somsip> marz: has none been in #suckless at all?
[15:00] <gr33n7007h> SeaSki, chvt <num>
[15:00] <SeaSki> ok if i am using irssi screened 3 times....and i am ssh into that box remote....how do i switch to the other instance of irssi without opening another connection?
[15:00] <marz> somsip: Hahaha! I'm amazed you stil remember. Yeah, still no one is still there.
[15:01] <marz> somsip: Care to help me with it? hehee
[15:01] <davividal> hi
[15:02] <somsip> marz: I have no experience. I ended up with awesomewm, which was easy enough to config and worked straight from install
[15:02] <EminentDomain2> yay... finished my taxes
[15:02] <SeaSki> wait whats chvt?
[15:02] <EminentDomain2> oops wrong channel
[15:02] <UserNameIsCool>  /msg NickServ REGAIN <UserNameInvalid> <IRCR@hul5544>
[15:02] <EminentDomain2> yea cuz you have username in it
[15:02] <gr33n7007h> SeaSki, changes between pseudo terminals
[15:03] <marz> somsip: are you using conky?
[15:03] <siddaarta> ohohohohoh
[15:03] <SeaSki> man conky is so junky it should be called junky
[15:03] <somsip> marz: I was, but now I feel my screens with windows
[15:03] <gr33n7007h> but in screen I think it's ctrl a <num>
[15:03] <davividal> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10. Until 13.04 everything worked fine. After upgrading to 13.10, after logging in I get a black screen. After 'disabling' compiz (chmod a-x /usr/bin/compiz) it 'works': I can reenable compiz and unity --replace. I'm using an intel onboard card. How can I debug whats going on?
[15:03] <marz> somsip: I think you can pipe or display the conky along the bar
[15:04] <marz> somsip: Just don't know how though. haha
[15:04] <ice9> how to allow a user from accessing usb as  raw device without root?
[15:04] <somsip> marz: not tried it and have no wish to. Do you mean for dwm?
[15:04] <marz> somsip: yup
[15:05] <SeaSki> ice9 : what?
[15:05] <marz> somsip: So in awesomewm, it doesn'ta llow you to pipe conky with the bar?
[15:05] <llutz> ice9: check the group owning the devices, add the user to that group
[15:05] <somsip> marz: I can't help with that. #suckless is the way to go, though I'm sure another regular here uses dwm
[15:05] <marz> somsip: did you try conky with awesomewm?
[15:05] <SeaSki> conky looks nice and all, but ive never really gotten it working
[15:06] <mistawright> somsip, thanks again for those links. that was definitely a nice nugget of information to know
[15:06] <ice9> llutz: it's the root group, so if I added that user to group root, it will access everything as root
[15:06] <somsip> marz: I didn't try it. looks possibly (at the bottom on this one) http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/File:AwesomeConky.png
[15:06] <SeaSki> btw(just sayin) i installed bodhi last night on an old non-pae box....
[15:06] <somsip> mistawright: no worries. glad I could help
[15:06] <llutz> ice9: not ideal... is it a specific device or do you need it for all usb-devices?
[15:07] <llutz> SeaSki: who?
[15:07] <damaso> hola
[15:07]  * gr33n7007h is listening to avicii
[15:07] <marz> somsip: Yeah, we'll I'll take a look at awesomewm tomorrow. Thanks for the info. With it, I got you to turn to. Bwahahaha!
[15:07] <somsip> gr33n7007h: please turn that off
[15:07] <SeaSki> bodhi linux....they told me it would run fine on 128mb of ram, but they were lying
[15:08] <SeaSki> i noticed when i installed "bodhi linux" that it was really just Ubuntu 12
[15:08] <gr33n7007h> somsip, oops sorry :)
[15:08] <somsip> marz: there are decent wikis for awesome. I'm not evangelical, but it should be eay to install, try in a session, then decide if it's a keeper. It's how I did it
[15:08] <somsip> gr33n7007h: thanks
[15:08] <ice9> llutz: usb,  in order to allow vbox access usb as rawdevice
[15:08] <marz> somsip: Can you show me a screenshot of your desktop. Just a thriller. hahaha
[15:08] <SeaSki> lol ive never gotten usb to work in VM either
[15:09] <awakening> can't get buttons on my tablet to work properly, they just do nothing, even after rebinding
[15:09] <awakening> had the same problem yesterday, but they somehow started working just fine
[15:09] <ice9> how to remove user from group?
[15:09] <somsip> marz: I have 14 screens. Most have apps. Empty ones are black with a grey menu panel. Nothing to see really
[15:09] <SeaSki> what tablet is it?
[15:09] <llutz> ice9: sudo deluser username group
[15:09] <awakening> bamboo pen and touch
[15:09] <bcuraboy> hi guys,good afternoon. how do i get the resolution 1366x768 to be fitted not scalable in a lcd??
[15:09] <awakening> CTH-470
[15:10] <marz> somsip: What the . . . 14 screens? that's a lot. . . hehe
[15:10] <awakening> i had the same problem yesterday, but it somehow resolved itself =\
[15:11] <gynter> Hello, who manages the http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ and how to get a torrent authorized there?
[15:13] <xyzwhatever> wtf.... why is the grub menu not showing up now I cant enter windows anymore
[15:13] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, what did you do?
[15:13] <xyzwhatever> i installed win 8 and then ubuntu
[15:13] <xyzwhatever> in the old days it used to recognize that i have dual boot
[15:14] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, it still does
[15:14] <xyzwhatever> maybe i installed boot partition at the wrong place or something
[15:14] <gr33n7007h> how many partitions did you use for ubuntu
[15:14] <slowcon> hey guys. i just got an ubuntu server and installed ubuntu desktop on it. im trying to setup remote connections to the server from MAC and WINDOWS. currently trying to setup the windows connection. I set Remote Desktop in Ubuntu to active.
[15:14] <xyzwhatever> only one
[15:14] <bcuraboy> hi guys,good afternoon. how do i get the resolution 1366x768 to be fitted not scalable in a lcd??
[15:15] <gr33n7007h> so everyting is on /
[15:15] <slowcon> when i go to Network > Connection Info, I get an error of "No valid active connections found"
[15:15] <davividal> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10. Until 13.04 everything worked fine. After upgrading to 13.10, after logging in I get a black screen. After 'disabling' compiz (chmod a-x /usr/bin/compiz) it 'works': I can reenable compiz and unity --replace. I'm using an intel onboard card. How can I debug whats going on?
[15:15] <xyzwhatever> yes but there was an additional selection
[15:15] <gr33n7007h> so you installed everything on root /
[15:15] <gr33n7007h> ubuntu i mean
[15:15] <ice9> how to get the uuid of a parition?
[15:15] <ice9> partition
[15:15] <gr33n7007h> ice9, blkid
[15:15] <xyzwhatever> there was a dropdown box for boot loader:  /dev/sda or /dev/sda3   I picked the first one
[15:16] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, bet you installed on sda3?
[15:16] <xyzwhatever> no i think I used /sda
[15:16] <gr33n7007h> is sda it should of worked
[15:16] <xyzwhatever> sda3 is the windows installation partition
[15:16] <xyzwhatever> maybe i picked sda3 damnit
[15:17] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, show us output of sudo fdisk -l
[15:17] <llutz> xyzwhatever: sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[15:17] <usr13_> xyzwhatever: sda is not a partition
[15:17] <gr33n7007h> sda is entire disk
[15:18] <usr13_> xyzwhatever: Oh your talking about grub, sorry
[15:18] <llutz> and for grub, it's the MBR
[15:18] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, are you in ubuntu now?
[15:18] <xyzwhatever> then it says:  /dev/sda4 *  star means boot
[15:18] <xyzwhatever> yes
[15:18] <gr33n7007h> do what llutz said
[15:18] <xyzwhatever> ok i do that
[15:19] <gr33n7007h> it'll update grub and find windows :) not to worry
[15:19] <llutz> xyzwhatever: read the output carefully, it should tell you if it finds windows or not
[15:20] <llutz> well, it won't tell if not
[15:20] <xyzwhatever> it says found linux image found initrd image found memtest86 image nothing about windows
[15:20] <xyzwhatever> is ubuntu unaware of windows 8.1?
[15:21] <gr33n7007h> llutz, don't he want grub-ufi or something
[15:21] <siddaarta> no windows is ubuntu
[15:22] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, is your system 32 or 64bit
[15:22] <xyzwhatever> 64
[15:23] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, sudo grub-efi-amd64 /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[15:23] <llutz> gr33n7007h: if the installer asked about sda - sda3 for grub, i doub't he run that in uefi-mode
[15:23] <davividal> anyone else having any problem with Intel i915? Does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186883 works?
[15:24] <gr33n7007h> llutz, sure I had simalar problem and installed efi grub and it picked it up
[15:24] <gr33n7007h> win 8
[15:24] <xyzwhatever> grup-efi command not found
[15:24] <gr33n7007h> that would be grub-efi
[15:25] <tozen> xyzwhatever: grub-efi
[15:25] <xyzwhatever> yeah i mean grub-efi do i have to install it?
[15:25] <xyzwhatever> first
[15:25] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, sudo grub-efi-amd64 /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[15:26] <xyzwhatever> dont have it :(
[15:26] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, apt-cache search grub-
[15:28] <usr13_> or apt-cache policy grub-efi-amd64
[15:29] <xyzwhatever> this says installed: (none)
[15:29] <usr13_> sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[15:29] <xyzwhatever> has no installation candidate
[15:30] <llutz> xyzwhatever: lsb_release -sd
[15:30] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, apt-get upgrade first
[15:31] <gr33n7007h> no
[15:31] <gr33n7007h> no
[15:31] <llutz> update
[15:31] <gr33n7007h> apt-get update
[15:31] <gr33n7007h> yeah
[15:34] <xyzwhatever> ok after update I could install grub-efi-amd64 but still your command above says : command not found
[15:34] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64 still says command not found
[15:35] <xyzwhatever> yeah why is that
[15:35] <llutz> !find bin/grub-efi
[15:36] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, what is the output of apt-cache search grub-efi-amd64
[15:36] <llutz> there is no such command
[15:36] <gr33n7007h> well, thats explains it
[15:37] <xyzwhatever> well theres a lot of output grand unified bootloader version 2
[15:37] <xyzwhatever> maybe i just try grub-efi
[15:38] <xyzwhatever> or grub-efi-amd64-bin
[15:38] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, yes it with bin at the end
[15:38] <gr33n7007h> just checked now
[15:38] <llutz> !info uefi | xyzwhatever
[15:39] <xyzwhatever> still command not found
[15:39] <llutz> !uefi | xyzwhatever
[15:40] <usr13_> xyzwhatever: The Tab key is your friend.
[15:40] <gartral> uefi = Unified Extended Firmware Interface
[15:41] <xyzwhatever> :((
[15:42] <xyzwhatever> when i type grub [tab]  theres nothing with -efi
[15:42] <xyzwhatever> maybe i have to install win8 again and use the windows bootloader if it recognizes ubuntu
[15:42] <marianne> xyzwhatever: i found UEFI in my bios settings, at boot up
[15:43] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[15:43] <llutz> xyzwhatever: have you read the UEFI link ubottu provided?
[15:44] <xyzwhatever> pastebin.com/FS3HSD9d
[15:44] <tpw_rules> hey. i'm having issues with wifi on my microsoft surface. it seems cfg80211 arbitrarily crashes, relaunches, then wifi becomes useless because it thinks it's associating and i get repeated "scan blocked during association" messages
[15:45] <xyzwhatever> nvm the second one is the usb key
[15:46] <llutz> xyzwhatever: there is nothing installed in uefi-mode. shouldn't be there an efi-partition
[15:46] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, well that seems pretty correct to me try update-grub a couple of times just incase
[15:48] <xyzwhatever> ok maybe in bios there is this weird uefi thing i never had to activate before in my life
[15:48] <gr33n7007h> Was this box bought with win8 on it?
[15:49] <xyzwhatever> no only Dos
[15:49] <Anonynimity> does anyone know how I can manually change my login screen for gdm from the default to using an xml or .desktop file?
[15:49] <gr33n7007h> so it's a pretty old computer?
[15:49] <tmwsiy_> Good morning, I have a puzzle. running 12.04 server on a dell poweredge 210 and smart tells me the hard drives are running at 114-116 C! ipmi shows the temp as "-72" I just want to feel good about this serer and I can't with smart telling me the derives are so hot
[15:50] <xyzwhatever> no its brand new I just didnt wanna pay for the os
[15:50] <gr33n7007h> so it's definetly uefi
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Anonynimity: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm    then select lightdm
[15:50] <gr33n7007h> you can manully download grub-efi-amd64 you know
[15:51] <xyzwhatever> yeah i did download it
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> tmwsiy_: do you have the latest bios?
[15:51] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, and you've installed using dpkg -i ?
[15:51] <Anonynimity> that doesn't help me at all Actionparsnip
[15:52] <gr33n7007h> Anonynimity, you mean background picture?
[15:52] <tmwsiy_> ActionParsnip: probably not good idea
[15:52] <Anonynimity> I have this xml file. I have that desktop file. I want to use either the .xml or the .desktop file to change my login screen... :/
[15:52] <xyzwhatever> ok in bios I have:   boot mode -legacy  -uefi hybrid wtih csm -uefi native without csm   ???
[15:52] <xyzwhatever> now its legacy selected
[15:53] <Anonynimity> not the picture... but the screen itself
[15:53] <gr33n7007h> try -uefi with csm
[15:53] <Anonynimity> I guess you would call that a theme?
[15:56] <c2tarun> Hi
[15:57] <gr33n7007h> Anonynimity, I'm sure to be honest what you mean
[15:58] <c2tarun> I want to change font of sublime text 2. For that I need to find the name of the font which is installed and I can use in sublime text.
[15:58] <c2tarun> How can I find the name of the fonts installed in ubuntu?
[15:58] <Anonynimity> okay.... the login manager....
[15:59] <xyzwhatever> gr33n7007h: its getting worse, now I cant even get into ubuntu anymore, only a black screen appears
[15:59] <Anonynimity> I want to change the theme of the login manager with either my .xml file or my .desktop file
[15:59] <Anonynimity> how can I do this manually
[15:59] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, change it bk to legacy then
[16:00] <geirha> c2tarun: The font files are located under /usr/share/font   to see a list of fonts, you could try  Alt+F2 -> charmap
[16:01] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, i'm sure you definetly need that grub-efi-amd64 installed
[16:02] <c2tarun> geirha, under /usr/share/fonts directory there are ttf files and not font names. :( I have to use font names in sublime text configuration.
[16:02] <geirha> c2tarun: You see the font names in charmap
[16:03] <xyzwhatever> still ubuntu is broken even after changing boot mode back to legacy
[16:03] <xyzwhatever> I think I've had enough Im gonna try mint
[16:03] <unixfreak> does unity have an option to toggle compositing yet?
[16:04] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, it's not over till the fat lady sings
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: in 12.04 there is Unity2D which doesnt require compoziting
[16:04] <unixfreak> that's useless though
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: how so?
[16:04] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, have you changed it back to legacy
[16:04] <xyzwhatever> damnit ubuntu it broke my windows and then itself
[16:04] <unixfreak> you need to log out
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: how do you mean?
[16:05] <c2tarun> geirha, got it :) thanks a lot
[16:05] <xyzwhatever> yes gr33n7007h but the same broken screen appears
[16:05] <unixfreak> ActionParsnip: is gnome2 (for example) you could switch between metacity/compiz with a simple keybind
[16:05] <unixfreak> in gnome2*
[16:05] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, you've taken uefi off aswell?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: you'll need to log out to select the 2D session, it will then be used in future logins unless you switch session again
[16:06] <xyzwhatever> dunno how to do that
[16:06] <unixfreak> i don't want 2d all the time though
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: you may be able to run:  metacity --replace    but not sure
[16:06] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, from within bios
[16:06] <unixfreak> i just want to disable it when i have a fullscreen video/game
[16:06] <heath> http://askubuntu.com/questions/429980/packages-are-failing-to-install-due-to-broken-packages
[16:06] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, you might have turned legacy on aswell as uefi
[16:07] <gr33n7007h> turn eufi off in the bios
[16:07] <xyzwhatever> yes I can only select either legacy or uefi
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: https://answers.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+question/189486
[16:07] <heath> i'm needing help apt to install *anything*
[16:07] <heath> http://askubuntu.com/questions/429980/packages-are-failing-to-install-due-to-broken-packages
[16:07] <gr33n7007h> switching from one to the other won't break it
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> heath: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:07] <unixfreak> ActionParsnip: that's why i don't use unity, framerate drop -- i'll have a read of that, thx
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: i just think compiz is a joke, so I dont use it
[16:08] <xyzwhatever> but ubuntu thought otherwise and quit working
[16:08] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, what you mean quit working?
[16:08] <heath> ActionParsnip: saucy
[16:09] <unixfreak> ActionParsnip: i just like to have shadows under windows when i'm doing casual stuff, but i need to disable them easily when a fullscreen program is running to boost the framerate
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> heath: what is the full output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: is it really worth it? for something that trivial?
[16:09] <unixfreak> yes
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> wow
[16:09] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, so your telling me from switching from legacy to uefi then uefi to legacy has broken ubuntu?
[16:09] <xyzwhatever> gr33n7007h: i only get either a black screen or a screen full of numbers  "unknown opcode 0x0b....    FAULT at 0x418880 bla....
[16:10] <xyzwhatever> yes
[16:10] <unixfreak> most other desktop environments/window managers can do it, only unity and gnome3 are the exceptions
[16:10] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, and that is the only thing you touched in bios?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: unity is neither a WM or a DE
[16:10] <xyzwhatever> sure
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: its a shell, its a plugin for comiz
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> *compiz
[16:10] <xyzwhatever> i try one last time set factory defaults in bios
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: like wobbly windows, nothing more
[16:11] <unixfreak> you could say fluxbox is a shell
[16:11] <unixfreak> to put it that way
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: no fluxbox is a WM
[16:11] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, yes it's definiently not broke
[16:11] <heath> ActionParsnip: i've removed repos
[16:11] <heath> ActionParsnip: that seems to have solved the problem
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> heath: nice
[16:12] <heath> but i wish askubuntu wouldn't mark my answer as a duplicate
[16:12] <heath> of course i've read those answers :|
[16:12] <heath> i wouldn't have posted otherwise
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: Unity doesnt replace gnome, when you use Unity you are using the Gnome DE, Unity is a plugin for Compiz. Compiz is the window manager
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: so how do you get that Fluxbox is a shell?
[16:12] <xyzwhatever> well gr33n7007h its now only a pink background screen and some green dots in a line
[16:12] <unixfreak> isgh
[16:12] <unixfreak> sigh
[16:13] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, wtf?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29 "Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment"
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: www.fluxbox.org "Fluxbox is a windowmanager for X"
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: yeah?
[16:14] <unixfreak> do you understand sarcasm?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: yes
[16:15] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi
[16:15] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, what computer you using now?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> unixfreak: it doesnt come across in ascii text though
[16:16] <xyzwhatever> gr33n7007h: HP zbook 15
[16:16] <gr33n7007h> and what's the computer with ubuntu on it?
[16:16] <angel_> test
[16:17] <xyzwhatever> oh I mean thats the computer with ubuntu
[16:17] <xyzwhatever> the one I m using now is another one
[16:17] <ice9> how can I know if my processor can run 64bit guest in vm?
[16:17] <gr33n7007h> go bk into bios and make sure lagacy is on and only that
[16:18] <gr33n7007h> ice9, arch
[16:18] <angel_> long time disn't use irc
[16:18] <ice9> gr33n7007h: its x86_64 but this doesn't mean that it's a must to run 64bit guest too
[16:19] <gr33n7007h> sure why not?
[16:20] <nutzz> hey guys, is just me or ubuntu's launchers causes claustrophobia? i just removed it and I feel like I excaped from jail.
[16:20] <xyzwhatever> gr33n7007h: tried that several times and factory defaults, now I cant even boot from the usb anymore to reinstall ubuntu or go to live session.
[16:20] <bbaaxx> ice9: egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[16:21] <bbaaxx> ice9: To check for virtualization support
[16:21] <ice9> bbaaxx: i got many things in the output, what to look for?
[16:21] <bbaaxx> ice9: just for the output
[16:21] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, make sure your first option from bios is usb now that you've defaulted
[16:21] <bbaaxx> ice9: if you get nothing then your computer does not support
[16:22] <bbaaxx> ice9: or does not have virtualization enabled
[16:22] <xyzwhatever> yeah it does boot from it but only shows weird text afterwards no more installation windows
[16:22] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, what weird text?
[16:23] <xyzwhatever> nonsensical numbers
[16:23] <bbaaxx> ice9: but if you are getting output it means that either AMD-V or VT-x (For Intel)  is enabled
[16:23] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, trust me everything still there. Theres no possible way to screw it up from bios
[16:24] <angel_> some bios problem
[16:24] <bbaaxx> ice9: Have a look in here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41550/how-do-i-run-a-64-bit-guest-in-virtualbox
[16:24] <Meerkat> how can I make a deb file without installing it using checkinstall?
[16:24] <Fodi69> which software do you recommend for displaying gmail unread mail noitifcations in the ubuntu 'message menu'? (top right). Using v13.10
[16:25] <xyzwhatever> its just totally screwed up i can spend now several hours trying to fix it or 10 minutes to reinstall windows doesnt matter theres no important data on it i got the computer today
[16:25] <kostkon> Fodi69, gm-notify?
[16:25] <kostkon> !info gm-notify
[16:26] <Fodi69> kostkon: will try it, thanks
[16:26] <JoBArTe_Skuld> its possible to measure server traffic by domain? today I use vnstat, but I don't know if this support that I need
[16:27] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, If I was in front of that computer it'll be fixed with 10 mins but without knowing anything about the bios pretty helpless
[16:29] <netameta__> how can you search a file though ssh in ubuntu ?
[16:30] <angel_> hmmm
[16:30] <dave305> how to install QT library,,,please help
[16:31] <daftykins> netameta__: sudo updatedb && locate <x>
[16:31] <netameta__> will will the filename go ?
[16:31] <daftykins> what?
[16:31] <mensvaga> What's a good graphical SNMP / MIB walker?
[16:32] <netameta__> daftykins the above searchs for a file on the system right ?
[16:32] <daftykins> netameta__: it searches for "<x>"
[16:32] <netameta__> Ah thanks
[16:33] <netameta__> syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[16:35] <kry> Hallo
[16:35] <kry> What happens if I uninstall the Software Centre? Does some kind of manual installation pop up?
[16:35] <netameta__> ah thanks daftykins
[16:36] <daftykins> kry: manual install to do what?
[16:36] <daftykins> kry: without it, you'd have to use the command line
[16:36] <SASDOE> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu gnome 13.10 on a mbp pro 7.1 and have no wifi.
[16:37] <kry> Is there an installer that allows to choose installation paths? Or at least allow to download and keep .deb files?
[16:37] <SASDOE> nm-tool shows a eth1 with wireless but cannot scan anything
[16:37] <daftykins> kry: .deb's are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives when updating
[16:37] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, you can't scan from wired
[16:37] <sensenmann> apt-get download?
[16:38] <SASDOE> it also shows an eth0 that is wired, eth1 hqs its type as 802.11 wifi
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: can you get us the output of: lspci -knn
[16:38] <daftykins> SASDOE: do you have a network manager installed?
[16:39] <kry> Because every time I want to install a new program from the net, it automatically pops up when I click on the download link, and I will run out of free space on the system HDD.
[16:39] <SASDOE> daftykins: yes
[16:39] <daftykins> SASDOE: and it doesn't see eth1 to do anything with it?
[16:39] <honestemu> I'm trying to get 'alias ls="ls --color"' to work over an SSH connection. I've changed my bashrc, but the changes aren't reflecting, even after I reconnect.
[16:40] <kry> daftykins: I've found my .debs, thanks.
[16:40] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, whats the output of iwconfig eth1
[16:41] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: paste.ubuntu.com/7044992
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: can you pastebin the output of: echo $LS_COLORS
[16:41] <netameta__> daftkins; how can i specify which folder to look in ?
[16:42] <daftykins> netameta__: no idea, look up the man page for locate
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> !broadcom | SASDOE try another driver
[16:43] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: how can I remove the current one as well?
[16:45] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime volume controller is stuck at 0
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: the instructions are in that wiki entry
[16:45] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, sudo apt-get remove broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:46] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO gr33n7007h thanks!
[16:47] <dave305> please help me to install qt library
[16:47] <angel_> did anyone try Enlightment on ubuntu ?
[16:47] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: Just a sec. I have no idea what that is. I'm gonna educate myself.
[16:47] <andry> hm
[16:48] <gr33n7007h> SASDOE, probably the best working broadcom is brcm80211
[16:48] <kostkon> !details | dave305
[16:48] <gr33n7007h> imho
[16:48] <andry> installed systemd-sysv now for compatibility to init scripts
[16:48] <andry> in jessie ..
[16:49] <andry> lightdm fails to autostart .. i just wrote a small display-manager.service file as it is "wanted" by graphical target and  removed the init script
[16:49] <andry> = works
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> andry: debian support is in #debian
[16:49] <andry> oh sorry
[16:49] <andry> wrong chan
[16:49] <andry> :'D
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> np :P
[16:50] <dave305> Im trying to compile a qt gui file.When compiling it says that QApplication: No such file or directory.Please help me to solve this
[16:50] <obje> guys, I use gnome 3.8 on ubuntu 13.10 with  NVIDIA GeForce GT 520MX DDR3  1GB. The problem is that I have 6 shell extensions, which are not active after every LOCK of the screen or after every suspending ...
[16:50] <obje>   Is there a cure for that or I should downgrade
[16:50] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime volume controller is stuck at 0
[16:50] <daftykins> ljsoftnet: never heard of it, sorry
[16:51] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[16:52] <daftykins> ljsoftnet: stop repeating please.
[16:53] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, why use tvtime?
[16:53] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h u know any tv tuner software
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> obje: ppas aren't supported here. for any such help you'd need to go to the ppa maintainer
[16:54] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, mplayer vlc kaffeine although kde it's pretty good xbmc theres load
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> ljsoftnet: vlc?
[16:54] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, use w_scan to pick up transponders for channel scanning conf file
[16:55] <dave305> Im trying to compile a qt gui file.When compiling it says that QApplication: No such file or directory.Please help me to solve this
[16:55] <dave305> Im trying to compile a qt  c++ gui file.When compiling it says that QApplication: No such file or directory.Please help me to solve this
[16:56] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: So $LS_COLORS is an environment variable and you want me to print that out. Well.. the output of "echo $LS_COLORS" was blank. What does that mean?
[16:56] <obje> hitsujiTMO thanks but no one is answering me there since Monday... so I hope someone here faced the same
[16:56] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h how do i use vlc?
[16:57] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, first of all create a channel.conf using w_scan may have to install it
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: $LS_COLORS is used to define what colors ls uses. without it ls defaults to white.
[16:57] <CountryfiedLinux> overview mode for multiple app windows doesn't work when one of those windows is set to "always on top".
[16:57] <CountryfiedLinux> I noticed this bug last year and it's still there.
[16:57] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, sudo apt-get install w-scan
[16:57] <hank6262> hello i am installing ubuntu onto a pc with two hard drives in it the one hard drive has windows on it and i want to put unbuntu onto the second hard drive with dual boot i choose something else in the graphical install and now am wondering what partion to set to install to as i have one partition that is unknown for sued space and has no file sytem so i s that the one i want to use for ubuntu
[16:58] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h w8
[16:58] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, kk
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: try running: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045087/   then try ls again
[16:58] <xyzwhatever> hank6262: be prepared to lose everything including your windows ;D
[16:59] <Beldar> hank6262, This a W8 dual boot?
[16:59] <hank6262> a win 7 dual boot
[16:59] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h how do i use w-scan
[16:59] <Beldar> hank6262, Is this a uefi gpt originally?
[16:59] <dave305> Im trying to compile a qt c++ gui file.When compiling it says that QApplication: No such file or directory.Please help me to solve this
[16:59] <hank6262> the secodn hard drive is not formatted for anythign and i see it in the setup for ubuntu but don't where ot put the boot loader as i see a windows 7 loader drive
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> obje: unfortunately thats one of the problems with running unsupported software. if you really want a later gnome, try testing trusty ubuntu gnome and you would be able to get support then in #ubuntu+1
[16:59] <hank6262> and the windows hard drive
[16:59] <tdannecy> !patience | dave305
[17:00] <TheWildHorse> I just installed the drivers for my AMD HD5770 via the ubuntu software thingy on 13.11. Well, now I restarted my PC and it is not booting, gets stuck on the purple screen. I'm not sure what I can do, i tried doing nomodeset trick but it doesn't work.
[17:00] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: So you're saying that my $LS_COLORS isn't defined?
[17:00] <hank6262> it is just me installing windows 7 on the laptop then rebooting nad isntalling linux
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: yes. if the echo command is returning blank, then the env var is not defined
[17:01] <obje> hitsujiTMO thanks I will consider it
[17:01] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, one country you in?
[17:01] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h philippines
[17:01] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: What if I told you that running "ls --color" results in color output? Wouldn't that mean that $LS_COLORS is defined?
[17:01] <Beldar> hank6262, Continued miss spelling of words makes it hard to follow your description which is confusing itself.
[17:01] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, PAL otr NTSC
[17:02] <ljsoftnet> NTSC
[17:02] <gr33n7007h> 1 sec
[17:02] <hank6262> here how the partions are listed /dev sda1 104 mb windows 7 loader /devsda2 1gb blank partition /dev sdb1 windows hard drive
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: ls --color is prob using a default set rather than what should be defined with $LS_COLORS
[17:03] <obje> hitsujiTMO one last question If I install trusty tahr beta, will fresh install will be needed after the release of LTS
[17:03] <obje> or will be handeled with upgrade
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> obje: no, it will upgrade to the release
[17:04] <obje> Ok, thanks  man
[17:04] <obje> !
[17:04] <hank6262> ok well answer me this if i install ubuntu to the unused hard drive which i can see wil it create the dual boot with windows 7
[17:04] <CountryfiedLinux> hank6262, *bump
[17:05] <gr33n7007h> w_scan -ft -c XX -X >> channels.conf    <- change XX with your country code
[17:05] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, ^^
[17:07] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: Does running that only set the environment variable temporarily? If I log off and log back in, will the environment variable still be set?
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: that will be temporary. if it works there will be ways to set it permanently
[17:09] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: Cool. How can I test if it works? Just run echo $LS_COLORS again?
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> honestemu: just run ls
[17:09] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, phillipines is PH
[17:09] <honestemu> hitsujiTMO: Oh I see. Okay. I'll give it a go.
[17:10] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h where does channels.conf be found?
[17:10] <Diranged> Is there any obvious reason not to go and deploy libgnutls26=2.12.14-5ubuntu3.7 on every single one of our Ubuntu 12.04 hosts right now — but deal with restarting/reloading their services during an outage window (depending on the service..)?
[17:10] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, you are putting what ever w_scan find in channels.conf with that command i gave you
[17:11] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, did you install w-scan
[17:12] <gr33n7007h> w_scan -ft -c XX -X >> channels.conf
[17:12] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h yes
[17:12] <sudormrf> quick question guys.  if you set up full disk encryption with 13.10, can you later setup a second OS and dual boot?
[17:12] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, did you change XX to PH?
[17:12] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h yes
[17:13] <gr33n7007h> cool
[17:13] <hank6262> ok better yet you guys just tell me how i should do the dual boot install with windows 7 onto two separate hard drive one hard drive for linux and one hard drive for windows
[17:14] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, what you going to use mplayer or vlc out of curiosty?
[17:14] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h vlc
[17:14] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, cool also may take a while dependent on what how many channels in that country
[17:17] <Naphatul> what does ubuntu use for disk encryption?
[17:17] <TheWildHorse> I just installed the drivers for my AMD HD5770 via the ubuntu software thingy on 13.11. Well, now I restarted my PC and it is not booting, gets stuck on the purple screen. I'm not sure what I can do, i tried doing nomodeset trick but it doesn't work.
[17:17] <thekkid> I've lost sound in firefox on youtube and html5 video and audio. It still works on quicktime videos in apple trailers though.
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> Naphatul: LUKS is used for full disk encryption
[17:18] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: can you hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a TTY?
[17:19] <tdannecy> sudormrf: This might help answer your question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[17:19] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: if you are thinking of a terminal, yes I can access it via recovery mode
[17:20] <sudormrf> tdannecy: that doesn't really help that much.  I did look at that before coming in.  that is refering to older versions of Ubuntu.  in 13.10 the option to do FDE is built in to the installer.
[17:20] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: well, a TTY technically but yes. i meant during failed boot
[17:20] <xyzwhatever> hey gr33n7007h  dual boot with mint worked perfectly...  never again ubuntu!
[17:21] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, that was quick?
[17:21] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: So just try that combo on startup?
[17:21] <jesus__> ¡Hola!
[17:21] <jesus__> ¿Alguien habla español?
[17:21] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, hey have you got a secret dislike of ubuntu>
[17:21] <tdannecy> !es | jesus__
[17:22] <xyzwhatever> since today yes
[17:22] <gr33n7007h> whats Linux Mint based of?
[17:22] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: yeah and if you have a working network connection, you could pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[17:23] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: No sir, it's like the GRUB background is still kept, just without the text on it, I can enter the terminal via recovery, but not sure if I can access the network
[17:23] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: is it a desktop with wired networking or?
[17:24] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: wireless, no access to a wire
[17:24] <xyzwhatever> well debian is cool but ubuntu is bloatware that breaks computers
[17:24] <xyzwhatever> it used to be nice
[17:24] <kostkon> !ot | xyzwhatever
[17:24] <thekkid> I had to do a restart so I don't know if anyone responded
[17:25] <gr33n7007h> xyzwhatever, think you bit of a troll
[17:25] <ljsoftnet> gr33n7007h dude w_scan is for capture device, im using tv tuner
[17:26] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, yeah did you run the command?
[17:26] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[17:26] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: I managed to boot via the recovery mode, now how to fix this problem with the drivers
[17:27] <Hanumaan> debian nfs client mounts as nobody and nogroup but ubuntu mounts with the correct username and group what could be the problem ?
[17:27] <gr33n7007h> ljsoftnet, last time I'm helping you!!!
[17:27] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: hmm well it'd be really handy if you could get the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file off there and pastebin'd online
[17:28] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: allright, let me just figure out how to post to pastebin via the terminal
[17:29] <gr33n7007h> TheWildHorse, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:29] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: well without a network connection, you'd need to either get it off onto a flash drive, or you could boot a liveCD/USB and get that online then read the file off the HDD
[17:29] <iptable> TheWildHorse, echo somrthinf |pastebinit
[17:29] <iter> what's the most appropriate way to purge isc-dhcp-client and isc-dhcp-common? I can apt-get -y remove --purge isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common and then kill -9 the dhclient3 process but it seems odd to have to do that
[17:29] <daftykins> gr33n7007h: isolated system
[17:30] <Enthralled> hello guys, how can i wipe the whole HDD and repartition it to NTFS?
[17:30] <gr33n7007h> daftykins, ah yeah ok my bad
[17:30] <daftykins> np :)
[17:30] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[17:30] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: I got the network up
[17:30] <daftykins> ljsoftnet: no and stop repeating, i warned you already
[17:30] <iter> eg, is there some prereq to purging the client that will stop the process as part of the removal
[17:31] <Guest445> gr33n7007h: awe... my driver is working well, thanks for the tutorial, much appreciated.
[17:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest445, cool :)
[17:32] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045287/
[17:32] <doomlord_> can anyone recomend a  desktop app for editing graphs - just needs the ability to enter text in boxes , move them around, linked with arrows(possibly anoted), not much more - not necasserily a 'mind-mapping' tool since these tend to emphasize a heirarchical layout. Something that edits a subset of dotfiles perhaps or stores its result in JSON
[17:32] <root4> hello, i have a big problem. When i try to login with my user, it takes me back to the login screen, when i try to login via the terminal i get  "mount: operation not permitted". i dont know how its happen. i only have made few updates and later a restart. hoe can i fix it?
[17:32] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: hmm, this is odd, just a sec
[17:33] <sudormrf> I would like to read my IP tables for IP addresses that I have set to drop and have them written to a file.  I am using fail2ban and this is writing IPs to the iptables.  what I want to do is setup a cron job that will run at a specific interval and it will write any IPs in the IPTables to a file.  I assume this is going to be a simple loop, but I am not sure how to accomplish it.  can anyone help?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> iptables -L   should list the rules set, is this what you mean?
[17:34] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: also do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file present?
[17:34] <iter> sudormrf: sudo iptables -L | grep for IPs
[17:34] <sudormrf> ActionParsnip: what I want to happen is that any IP addresses that are currently being dropped to be written to a file
[17:34] <sudormrf> automatically
[17:34] <iter> sudormrf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/427979/how-do-you-extract-ip-addresses-from-files-using-a-regex-in-a-linux-shell
[17:35] <sudormrf> iter: checking
[17:35] <iter> sudormrf: however, doesn't fail2ban log those somewhere as well as add the iptables rules?
[17:35] <kostkon> doomlord_, dia maybe?
[17:35] <root4> have anybody a idea how to fix the "mount: permission not permitted" when i want to login?
[17:35] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: hmm, this is odd, just a sec
[17:35] <daftykins> root4: sounds like you've edited /etc/fstab by hand?
[17:36] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: sorry bout that, accental repost, anyways, no I got only xorg.conf.failsafe
[17:36] <tdannecy> root4: Are you dual booting the unit?
[17:36] <sudormrf> iter: TBH I am not sure.  When I was in the fail2ban channel the other day they said that anytime fail2ban is restarted any changes made by fail2ban are removed (IE, it's not persistent).
[17:36] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: ok, try running "aticonfig --initial" then reboot
[17:36] <iter> sudormrf: http://www.the-art-of-web.com/system/fail2ban-log/
[17:37] <root4> daftykins: i dont have edit anything, i was normal on my pc, have made few updates, surf a little, installed codeblocks thats all and after a restart i cant login into into my user, only root works and only via terminal
[17:38] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: "This program must be run as root when no X server is active"
[17:38] <elb0w> there a separate channel for ubuntu touch?
[17:38] <root4> and when i try to start with a other kernel i get also uid errors
[17:38] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: oh you're not root right now?
[17:38] <kostkon> !touch | elb0w
[17:39] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: nevermind forgot sudo, restarting now
[17:39] <doomlord_> kostkon, yikes, i've just tried to install dia, i have a screen with a textmode dialogue with '<OK>' , which no keyboard or mouse input seems to acknowledge :)
[17:39] <gr33n7007h> elb0w, /msg alis list *serachterm* for future reference
[17:40] <kostkon> doomlord_, no idea about that.
[17:40] <kostkon> doomlord_, how did you try to install it
[17:40] <doomlord_> its a EULA screen :) i had something a few days ago similar blocking me from installing something else lol
[17:40] <doomlord_> sudo apt-get install dia
[17:40] <root4> and now im in irc via weechat if nanybody have a idea how to fix that problem
[17:40] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: booted now, the cooler seems to be a lot quieter now so I guess the drivers are working
[17:40] <kostkon> doomlord_, hmm, let's see
[17:41] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: screen resolution look ok and so on?
[17:41] <doomlord_> perhaps the gui software centre would do  it
[17:41] <kostkon> doomlord_, use the tab key
[17:41] <doomlord_> ok i'l try
[17:41] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: could you repost /var/log/Xorg.0.log just to confirm?
[17:41] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: sure, yea the resolution seems fine
[17:42] <doomlord_> argh i accidently quite install and have a dangling lock "/var/lib/dpkg/lock" - is there a way to unlock that from the commandline
[17:42] <doomlord_> i usually reboot when i see that
[17:43] <kostkon> doomlord_, close the software centre
[17:43] <doomlord_> did that.
[17:43] <doomlord_> ok i'll reboot , brb :)
[17:43] <TheWildHorse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045354/
[17:43] <root4> seems nobody know how to fix my problem so i need to try
[17:43] <kostkon> doomlord_, here are its deps http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/dia  I'm not really sure why you are getting the eula
[17:44] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: forgot to mention you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045354/
[17:45] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: that looks a lot healthier :) thanks
[17:46] <TheWildHorse> daftykins: thanks a lot man, you helped a lot!
[17:46] <mikemonk> good morning guys
[17:46] <sudormrf> iter: that is logging them, but that is not what I am trying to accomplish.  fail2ban will not automatically re-add the banned IPs to the IPtables if a reboot happens.  that is why I want to have the IPs automatically added to a file.  I am assuming it will be a simple loop
[17:46] <root4> strange via root all works fine but why i get operation not permitted when i try to login with my user?
[17:46] <sudormrf> iter: something akin to this: while read ip; do iptables -A INPUT -s "$ip" -j DROP; done < ip_list.txt
[17:46] <daftykins> TheWildHorse: np :)
[17:47] <mikemonk> days have passed, and I cant seem to solve this issue: :S
[17:47] <mikemonk> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module"
[17:47] <mikemonk> it has to do with an i386 app
[17:48] <root4> i wish anybody could help me to xD
[17:48] <mikemonk> i solved the gtk engines dependencies... however I cant find how to solve those error messages...
[17:48] <daftykins> mikemonk: are those two module names also package names which need installing?
[17:49] <gr33n7007h> mikemonk, did you install libgtkmm-2.4-1c2
[17:50] <mikemonk> daftykins, it seems like it... i tried sudo apt-get install overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386
[17:50] <mikemonk> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[17:50] <mikemonk> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[17:50] <mikemonk> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[17:50] <mikemonk> or been moved out of Incoming.
[17:50] <mikemonk> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[17:50] <mikemonk> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:50] <mikemonk>  overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 : Depends: overlay-scrollbar:i386 but it is not installable
[17:50] <mikemonk> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:50] <iter> sudormrf: http://zach.seifts.us/posts/2013/07/14/how-make-fail2ban-bans-persistent
[17:50] <mikemonk> gr33n7007h: already tried it :S
[17:50] <justaguy> mikemonk: please use site's like http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <sudormrf> iter: tried that and got errors
[17:51] <mikemonk> justaguy:sorry right
[17:51] <daftykins> mikemonk: had you seen - http://askubuntu.com/questions/392097/how-do-i-install-32-bit-libraries-when-they-keep-having-uninstallable-dependenci
[17:51] <justaguy> When ubuntu 14.04 lts is released (which is soon) , will it be possible to update easily from 13.10 to 14.04 (like it is now very easy to update from 13.04 to 13.10)
[17:51] <iter> sudormrf: what errors?
[17:51] <kostkon> justaguy, obviously
[17:52] <mikemonk> daftykins: yep, however theres no solution there, or is it?
[17:52] <root4> ok so it seems nobody know how to fix my problem i want try a update to 14.10. maybe it will fix it
[17:52] <sudormrf> iter: I created a custom action file for this specific issue.  when I do what the link you provided suggests it says the syntax of what I am using is wrong.  it works fine when remove the lines they suggest adding.
[17:52] <root4> *14.04
[17:53] <daftykins> mikemonk: well it points out the whole 'all' architecture for those rather than i386 specifically, not sure if that helps
[17:53] <iter> sudormrf: sounds like we should just fix that syntax then, pastebin your action file
[17:53] <mikemonk> daftykins: ok, so how would that work?
[17:53] <sudormrf> iter: sec.
[17:53] <daftykins> mikemonk: presumably not putting :i386 after the package name
[17:53] <Caelum> linux-headers-3.13.0-16 does not have the Module.symvers file
[17:53] <mikemonk> daftykins: what command should i issue?
[17:54] <Caelum> where am I supposed to get it
[17:54] <GoldStandard> does ubuntu restrict high-grade encryption?  I cannot seem to connect using a 256bit connection
[17:54] <sudormrf> iter: here is the filter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045402/
[17:54] <mikemonk> daftykins: tried it, it says its already installed
[17:54] <daftykins> mikemonk: ah ok, that's beyond me then i'm afraid
[17:54] <calimero_82> hello
[17:54] <sudormrf> iter: here is the action: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045405/
[17:55] <sudormrf> iter: and here is the jail.local: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7045408/
[17:55] <EminentDomain2> when you pull something from a webdav mount in nautilus... how mnay threads can it use maximum?
[17:55] <iter> sudormrf: thanks, which is the bad line
[17:55] <sudormrf> the part where I define the action in the jail.local for racoon
[17:56] <mikemonk> daftykins: damn... could you recommend me a distro that doesnt give me these kind of issues? since the multiarch incorporation, ive just had major headaches
[17:56] <EminentDomain2> also when you mount a webdav drive in nautilus where does it mount to?  I.E. how can i access it from the CLI?
[17:57] <daftykins> mikemonk: i've a feeling it's more the application and you having installed 64-bit that's the issue rather than ubuntu as a whole :)
[17:58] <root4> hello, i have a big problem. When i try to login with my user, it takes me back to the login screen, when i try to login via the terminal i get  "mount: operation not permitted". i dont know how its happen. i only have made few updates and later a restart. hoe can i fix it?
[17:58] <EminentDomain2> can anyone even see me here?
[17:58] <daftykins> EminentDomain2: yes.
[17:59] <sudormrf> iter: specifically it says the arguments are invalid [name=, protocol=].  when I remove that it still says there is a problem.  when I remove all the lines that blog post has me enter and revert everything back, it works just infe
[17:59] <iter> sudormrf: I would suggest getting it working without the custom action first
[17:59] <EminentDomain2> ok my client is messed up
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> root4: I'd boot to liveCD and fsck the partition on the internal drive(s)
[17:59] <mikemonk> daftykins: ubuntu 12.04 works perfectly well, the problem is theres no x64 version of the app
[17:59] <EminentDomain2> keeps saying cant send to channel, but clearly i am
[17:59] <sudormrf> iter: is there a way I can just parse the iptables for any IP addresses listed and have that written to a file?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> EminentDomain2: I'd ask in #freenode
[17:59] <root4> ActionParsnip how do you mean?
[17:59] <EminentDomain2> oh i'm not asking
[18:00] <EminentDomain2> i was asking about webdav in nautilus tho
[18:00] <EminentDomain2> lol
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> root4: boot the install CD, then read online about fsck, it wil check the data on the partitions is healthy
[18:00] <EminentDomain2> whic i dont think they can help me with in #freenode
[18:00] <iter> sudormrf: sure, the command 'sudo iptables -L | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' > file.out
[18:01] <daftykins> mikemonk: which program is it? have you contacted the dev?
[18:01] <sudormrf> iter: sweet.
[18:01] <sudormrf> iter: let me test it
[18:01] <Pici> iter: you probably want iptables -Ln
[18:01] <root4> ok i will try
[18:01] <iptable> iptables -L -vn
[18:01] <mikemonk> daftykins: sametime 9... can you believe it? an app that has just been released
[18:01] <mikemonk> i dont have support
[18:02] <daftykins> mikemonk: would it run under a 32-bit 12.04 install?
[18:02] <daftykins> that's what i meant earlier
[18:02] <mikemonk> daftykins: yes it runs
[18:02] <doomlord_> (r.e. dia, great thats installing, and tab worked on the dialogue, thanks )
[18:02] <mikemonk> daftykins: even in a 12.04 x64 installation
[18:03] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[18:03] <sudormrf> iter: now is there a way I can exclude the 0.0.0.0 addresses?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> | grep -v 0.0.0.0
[18:03] <sudormrf> ActionParsnip: thanks! :D
[18:04] <sudormrf> sweet
[18:04] <sudormrf> this will do exactly what I want
[18:04] <sudormrf> will set it as a cron job to run every hour
[18:06] <jwash> hi everyone, my live CDs are failing to boot when x is launched, they just go to a black screen. does anyone have experience remastering a live ubuntu dvd from their hard drive?
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[18:07] <daftykins> jwash: tried 'nomodeset' ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> jwash: does the system have a make and model?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> jwash: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:08] <jwash> qemu
[18:08] <jwash> i made it then try to run it with qemu
[18:08] <mikemonk> daftykins: any other suggestion?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> jwash: did you check the CD for defects?
[18:08] <jwash> md5 is fine
[18:09] <daftykins> mikemonk: nah, i'm confused since you said the program runs
[18:09] <jwash> it's the original cd image that the md5 was generated from
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jwash: are you actually using a CD mdia, or the ISO on the drive as a file?
[18:09] <jwash> both ways fail to a black screen
[18:09] <mikemonk> daftykins: yep in that Ubuntu version but not on 13.10
[18:09] <jwash> burned to dvdrom, made to usb, qemu
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jwash: tried nomodeset as daftykins suggested?
[18:10] <jwash> qemu is trying now
[18:10] <Beginnerr> is anyone here?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Beginnerr: many
[18:10] <jwash> nice, hanging at a different screen now
[18:10] <Beginnerr> I am having trouble booting ubuntu from USB.. and I have tried what the google searches have told me to do
[18:10] <Hecter> quick Q, what path you put at sudo htpasswd -c /path/to/passwords/.htpasswd username ?
[18:11] <jwash> nope, still working on my slow pc
[18:11] <Hecter> is it /home/username/passwords?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Beginnerr: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:11] <Pici> Hecter: wherever you want the htpasswd file to live.
[18:11] <Beginnerr> nope, and what does that mean.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Beginnerr
[18:12] <jareddlc> hey guys, i had a quick question
[18:12] <Hecter> Pici: so it doesnt matter where it reside, just where you are allowed to put it?
[18:12] <Hecter> Pici: thanks!
[18:12] <jareddlc> im running fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 and im trying to bootstrap it, however when it comes to dealing with collecd, i get odd behavior
[18:12] <Beginnerr> I will try this right away, be back in a bit to say yay or nay
[18:13] <jareddlc> the apt-get install fails, and it wont continue until i delete the conf file in /etc/collectd/, then i;ll have run apt-get install again
[18:14] <jareddlc> any ideas?
[18:14] <kostkon> jareddlc, 13.04 is not supported anymore here.
[18:14] <jareddlc> ah oka kostkon
[18:14] <jwash> hanging on 'grep: /root/etc/default/apport: No such file or directory'
[18:14] <kostkon> jareddlc, support for 13.04 has ended. try installing a supported release, 13.10 or 12.04 lts
[18:14] <jareddlc> ho9w would i instyall
[18:14] <jareddlc> a 13.10 package on older version?
[18:14] <jwash> also giving me a invalid user 'ubuntu' message
[18:15] <jareddlc> or does apt-get install automatically grabs latest version?
[18:16] <jareddlc> i guess im asking is how apt-get works, does it grab the latest, or doers it grab the package from the repo of the current version?
[18:16] <mgolisch> it only uses the configured repositories
[18:17] <jareddlc> if untouched, is it safe to say, it only grabs whatever is in that version repo? like if i have 12.04 and there a new package out in 13.10 apt-get install does it grabs 12.04? or 13.10?
[18:18] <mgolisch> jareddlc: why do you think theres different versions?
[18:18] <blahberson> jareddlc: your repos are specific to your Ubuntu version.
[18:18] <jareddlc> mgolisch: :( im just curious as im new
[18:19] <mgolisch> jareddlc: it only grabs stuff from the repository for your version
[18:19] <jareddlc> thx blahberson,
[18:19] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: apt-get will bring the latest version found in all the repos it has available
[18:19] <jareddlc> so i just need to add 13.10 or whatever versions repo to it?
[18:20] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: have you noticed that some repos end with something like Saucy/saucy
[18:20] <mgolisch> no you install from 13.10
[18:20] <jareddlc> yep bbaaxx
[18:20] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: That means that apt will youse the latest version for the saucy distribution
[18:21] <blahberson> jareddlc: That would be a bad idea. Always stay with your version unless you know what you're doing.
[18:21] <mgolisch> what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:21] <Beginnerr> god Im so crappy at this I cant even figure out how to do this md5sum thing
[18:21] <jareddlc> well collectd in 13.04 is broken
[18:21] <jareddlc> so i want to try a different versions
[18:21] <jareddlc> as im bootstrapping machines via ansible
[18:21] <xangua> jareddlc: 13.04 is no longer supported
[18:22] <jareddlc> yes xangua
[18:22] <jareddlc> my question was more generic
[18:22] <jareddlc> thx
[18:22] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: Just make sure that the last part of the repository line in your repository configuration files is  for the version of Ubuntu you want to use
[18:22] <mgolisch> you use debbootstrap?
[18:23] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: these files are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:23] <jareddlc> http://replygif.net/i/1268.gif
[18:23] <jareddlc> thx bbaaxx
[18:23] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: and /etc/apt/sources.list for the default repos
[18:23] <hank6262> hello how do i install ubuntu on a separate hardrive along side of windows 7
[18:23] <Guest53326> hello all small quick question is there a desktop applet  or bar applet that would quickly display ip info?
[18:24] <jareddlc> thx every one bbaaxx mgolisch
[18:24] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: :)
[18:24] <jareddlc> i'll try to update the repo, and see if that fixes this bug im having
[18:24] <jareddlc> i appreciate the help guys
[18:25] <vote_vis_systemd> Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html
[18:25] <vote_vis_systemd> Vote for init system choice.
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest53326: A desktop applet? ... there's a command-line tool
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | vote_vis_systemd
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> vote_vis_systemd: Furthermore, given that you have a choice whether to use AppArmor or SELinux, I doubt Debian will stop packaging upstart
[18:27] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: Just a word of warning
[18:27] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: if you use packages from a repo targeted to a different release of ubuntu
[18:28] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: you may have to mnually handle the dependencies at the risk of breaking stuff
[18:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest53326: Use [ ifconfig | grep "inet addr" ]. The IP address is the number which is NOT 127.0.0.1 (that's localhost, your machine)
[18:28] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: if a common depency is modified (upgraded/removed/downgraded)
[18:29] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: *dependency
[18:29] <jareddlc> ohh thx bbaaxx
[18:29] <jareddlc> maybe i'll just use a hack, instead
[18:30] <jareddlc> install pkg, remove file, install pkg again...
[18:30] <jareddlc> which is gross, but needs to be done
[18:30] <bbaaxx> jareddlc: Yup, good luck !
[18:30] <jwash> waiting for network forever
[18:30] <jwash> does anyone know how to send ctrl-alt-f3 to a qemu window?
[18:32] <Beginnerr> I AM BACK
[18:32] <liz4rd> hi im running ubuntu how do i install lilo on it?
[18:32] <Beginnerr> and the checksums are the same or w-e that means
[18:33] <Beginnerr> SO the people who told me to do the MD5sums I have completed that and they compared to be the same, but I still cant boot from USB with it
[18:33] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[18:34] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: no idea, but I'm curious of why would you want to do that ?
[18:36] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: There is this page here on which it explains how to revert to legacy GRUB but I'm guessing this is not what you want to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading#Reverting_to_GRUB_Legacy
[18:36] <Baribal> Hi. I'm i18n/l10n-ing a program. I created de.mo and en.mo, and linked them in de/LC_MESSAGES/ and en/LC_MESSAGES/ in my programs root dir, respectively. I expected that upon the next program start, my gettext calls would use the translated strings, but I only got the original strings instead. Am I using the system wrong?
[18:37] <bbaaxx> Beginnerr: have you checked BIOS and/or forced booting from the USB ?
[18:37] <liz4rd> see i upgraded ubuntu and grub ate the config file
[18:38] <liz4rd> i think grub has a bug
[18:39] <liz4rd> why the heck does it eat the conf
[18:39] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: That's very weird, but you should probably try re-installing it
[18:39] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: Here is everything you need to do that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[18:40] <liz4rd> i do not trust grub i want to lilo back again
[18:40] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: Also, you can find there some troubleshooting guidelines
[18:40] <liz4rd> :/
[18:41] <Beginnerr> when creating a boot usb with ubuntu does it matter how much persistance I put
[18:41] <liz4rd> i wish i installed opensuse or mint
[18:41] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: Alright, well, good luck with that I't shouldn't be impossible but also doesn't sound trivial
[18:42] <liz4rd> bad decision ubuntu was
[18:42] <bbaaxx> liz4rd: Sorry to hear that, in my opinon Ubuntu is sometimes a bit of a pain at the beginning, but once you get to know it and controll it is really awesome.
[18:43] <Beginnerr> eh this is gonna be the last time I try to make a usb of this.. if not Ima just have to be a pirate.. yo ho ho
[18:43] <liz4rd> im gonna usb boot opensuse and fix the file system
[18:43] <foggalong> Whenever I start Steam my entire computer freezes. I get the feeling it's a Nvidia graphics issue. Anyone heard anything about this happening elsewhere?
[18:43] <liz4rd> i hate these kinda work
[18:43] <liz4rd> too time consuming
[18:44] <diego__1> not me
[18:45] <davison> I have a problem with ubuntu's *.desktop files.  Opened a preview of a file in Chrome, now when I use synapse (zeitgeist frontend), I get 2 entries for chrome.  One for chrome itself, one prefixed with the file name.
[18:45] <davison> Uninstalled and reinstalled, still the same.  Searched for any duplicate *.desktop files
[18:45] <davison> any ideas?
[18:45] <liz4rd> i  began with redhat 6
[18:46] <liz4rd> and ubuntu sucks big time
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> davison: grep -i chrome /usr/share/applications/*.desktop   should show the files it is present in, you can then see what's going on
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: nobody is making you use it
[18:46] <liz4rd> call me a linux enthusiast
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: do you have a support question regarding ubuntu?
[18:47] <liz4rd>  beg ur pardon actionptrrrrscrpt
[18:47] <davison> ActionParsnip: As I said, grep'd desktop files.  Only showing up with the google-chrome.desktop entry
[18:48] <davison> ActionParsnip: launch, new window and incognito variants
[18:48] <Beginnerr> so anyone with ideassssssssssss
[18:48] <Beginnerr> wait... WTF it worked??
[18:48] <liz4rd> u must be ubuntu fanboi
[18:48] <xangua>  !language | Beginnerr
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: no just keeping the channel on topic
[18:49] <Beginnerr> ah acronyms are bad language? srry but the USB boot finally worked when I did nothing different.. I verified the files... and used the same program as always but this time it worked... I was just surprised sorry
[18:49] <liz4rd> topics smopicks ubuntu upgrades are malware infected
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: they aren't
[18:49] <gr33n7007h> liz4rd, stop trolling
[18:50] <liz4rd> wait and see for your selves
[18:50] <bbaaxx> Beginnerr: Congrats, see you round in a few minutes after installation is loaded ;)
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: been using ubuntu since gutsy and running trusty on my server, nothing to see
[18:50] <davison> If it makes any difference, when I use synapse or unity applications menu (doesn't show up in Gnom menu indicator), the subtext doesn't appear on the faulty link, and the icon seems to be of a lower quality
[18:50] <gr33n7007h> liz4rd, you're a troll end of!
[18:50] <Beginnerr> quick question... is this able to be installed in a SSD?
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> liz4rd  linux malware? how exciting! source of information (not wikipedia)?
[18:50] <rostam> hi I am using ubuntu 12.04 update 4. The output of ifconfig displays an interface which I am not sure what it is:   ax0  192.168.4.1   what is ax0 interface? thx
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Beginnerr: yes, the physical media is moot
[18:51] <Beginnerr> k ty.. I will return if I have anymore questions
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Beginnerr: the IDE shows the drive storage to the controller, its abstracted
[18:51] <bbaaxx> davison: Honestrly I don't really understand you issue, could you please be more specific regarding which functionality is not working?
[18:51] <liz4rd> i came here with a question now you calling me an ork a troll next what an elf
[18:52] <davison> bbaaxx: I am looking to run chrome from unity or synapse.  Getting 2 entries.  1 is Google Chrome, another is "fortranMods - Google Chrome".  Searched my *.desktop files and can find no duplicate or faulty entries
[18:52] <gr33n7007h> liz4rd, go suck a dummy
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: not seen a single question, I even asked you if you had one
[18:52] <davison> bbaaxx: both run and launch chrome, but it always has the fortranMods prefix.
[18:53] <liz4rd> 0days lately had/haz/have?
[18:53] <bbaaxx> davison: ok, so you are talking about menu entries ? In the dash in unity for example ?
[18:53] <davison> bbaaxx: yes.
[18:53] <bbaaxx> davison: have you tried alacarte ?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: can you please ask a full question in plain english giving as many details as possible. Thank you
[18:54] <bbaaxx> davison: sudo apt-get install alacarte
[18:54] <bbaaxx> davison: is a menu manager, there you can probably remove the faulty entry
[18:54] <davison> bbaaxx: Have used alacarte before to modify Gnome menu indicator.  No difference.
[18:55] <liz4rd> yes how can i support ubuntu?
[18:55] <davison> bbaaxx: entries don't show up in gnome app indicator, but DO show in unity dash
[18:55] <Abd_allatif> hi, i am going to buy hp pavilion 15-n005tx, does it run ubuntu without problems (wireless for example)?
[18:55] <davison> bbaaxx: and synapse, still.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: answer user questions constructively, report bugs, reply to posts on forums to fix user issues
[18:55] <liz4rd> i can hire some cheerleaders
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> liz4rd: that doesnt do anything
[18:56] <bbaaxx> davison: And where does this prefix appears? On the title bar ? Or just in the menu entry ?
[18:56] <Jordan_U> liz4rd: That was not a support question. Please restrict your comments to actual productive support discussion, or find a different channel.
[18:56] <wumbo> Hi all. Having some difficulty here trying to transfer data from a 512 sector drive to a 4096 sector drive. What am I missing?
[18:56] <davison> bbaaxx: solely in the menu entry, or when I hover over the launcher bar
[18:57] <liz4rd> wht tht will help the fixers of bug hunt team
[18:57] <Jordan_U> wumbo: How exactly are you trying to transfer the data, and what problem are you running into?
[18:57] <Jordan_U> liz4rd: Filing detailed and clear bug reports.
[18:58] <Beginner> I am back so soon... not because Im completely new to this kind of thing... i swear...... sigh.. how do I partition or be able to select my SSD as the "root file system"
[18:58] <wumbo> Jordan_U: I've tried cp and rsync. It will hang up and sit there.
[18:58] <bbaaxx> davison: have a look at /usr/share/applications/
[18:58] <bbaaxx> davison: See if you find it there
[18:58] <bbaaxx> davison: and remove it
[18:59] <davison> bbaaxx: As i have said previously, I have grep'd and searched for chrome related desktop entries
[18:59] <davison> bbaaxx: hence my comments on searching *.desktop files
[18:59] <Jordan_U> wumbo: What happens if you just try to cp one small file? Does that succeed? Are there any io errors in "dmesg"?
[18:59] <bbaaxx> davison: just wanted to make sure you had visually inspected the directory
[19:00] <Abd_allatif> i hear that hp notebooks have problems in WiFi and overheating. is that correct?
[19:00] <wumbo> Jordan_U: small files do seem to work, but i'm dealing with terabytes of data. dmesg says various things, usually ehci reset on the usb drive
[19:00] <davison> bbaaxx: yes only a single entry
[19:01] <bbaaxx> otherwise you could find all desktop files doing something like cd / && find | grep .desktop
[19:01] <wumbo> gparted shows the hfs+ partition, but has a red exclamation point saying that i'm missing hfsprogs, but i have all hfs modules installed
[19:02] <Jordan_U> wumbo: I think that the 512 vs 4096 byte sector difference is a red herring. Is the USB drive spinning or SSD? Can you check the S.M.A.R.T status of both drives?
[19:02] <wumbo> Jordan_U: USB drive is mechanical, and is brand new.
[19:02] <Jordan_U> wumbo: Do you have the package "hfsprogs" installed? The usespace tools and kernel modules are two different things.
[19:03] <wumbo> Jordan_U: I used apt-get install hfsprogs. Is there something else I'm missing>
[19:03] <liz4rd> vv
[19:04] <bbaaxx> davison: or better yet find | grep fortranMods
[19:04] <wumbo> bbl
[19:05] <zwacky> what could it be that i can only access google sites on my ubuntu live usb?
[19:05] <Beginner> boom! did some googling and got my SSD to be chosen.. yeaaahh.
[19:05] <davison> bbaaxx: solved.  thanks, the root find done the trick.  Had a ~/.local/share/applications desktop file with a html argument for chrome.
[19:06] <compdoc> boom!
[19:06] <bbaaxx> zwacky: check DNS resolution: nslookup yahoo.com on a terminal
[19:06] <davison> bbaaxx: Much appreciated
[19:06] <jcrza> Anyone know of something like github that I can self host, which also has a package in the repository? Gitlab looks nice but installing it seems like a hassle.
[19:06] <bbaaxx> davison: cool !
[19:07] <bbaaxx> jcrza: Not ubuntu related but have a look at: https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gitweb
[19:07] <Beginner> Quick question. do I have the option to go between two language keyboards... my wife likes to use my computer but I have my keyboard usually set to german or dutch.. in windows theres a little button to switch on demand but Im at the screen for keyboard layout right now
[19:07] <bbaaxx> Beginner: You can set it after installation
[19:07] <davison> Beginner: yes.  Depending on the language, look for something such as ibus
[19:08] <zwacky> thanks bbaaxx, i do get an odd address in return (192.185.0.115 for launchpad.com)
[19:08] <bbaaxx> Beginner: it works almost exactly the same way as windows
[19:08] <Beginner> OKay, thank you.
[19:09] <bbaaxx> zwacky: seems like you are being redirected by your gateway, try configuring the DNS's manually on the network manager
[19:09] <zwacky> aye thanks for the hint!
[19:09] <bbaaxx> zwacky: you can use 8.8.8.8 or 4.2.2.2, they both are free DNS servers
[19:10] <davison> i have the 8's remembered.  Google DNS
[19:11] <Beginner> small question: what is the difference between the 13.10 ubuntu and the 12.04 one
[19:11] <Beginner> is it mostly just aesthetics vs software?
[19:12] <davison> no major difference
[19:12] <davison> 14.04 out soon if you are planning to change
[19:12] <bbaaxx> Beginner: lots ! mainly support for newer things, newer kernels which translates into better support for hardware and features
[19:12] <mdmcaf> Beginner: the biggest difference is how long they're supported. 12.04 is a LTS (long term support) release and 13.10 is not
[19:12] <davison> next LTS release
[19:13]  * Abd_allatif was asking about hp notebook
[19:14] <TheUnnamedDude> Eww, HP
[19:15] <TheUnnamedDude> Terrible cooling
[19:15] <TheUnnamedDude> .-.
[19:15] <TheUnnamedDude> Bloated
[19:15] <bbaaxx> TheUnnamedDude: Try samsung laptops 15 minutes and you will end up loving HP
[19:15] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, thats true
[19:16] <TheUnnamedDude> Ive tried HP, I am suiciding
[19:16] <zwacky> bbaaxx, just for clearance: i did forget that i didnt have dhcp activated on my router. so it now works, thx for your  hints
[19:16] <davison> I bought a custom ultrabook.  Only slight woe is the battery life is only about 4 hours
[19:16] <TheUnnamedDude> I'm suiciding when the fan starts running *
[19:16] <Abd_allatif> and the battery?
[19:16] <TheUnnamedDude> My battery died pretty quick
[19:16] <TheUnnamedDude> 2 years, and it was terrible
[19:17] <TheUnnamedDude> Well, 1.5 year
[19:17] <TheUnnamedDude> Lasts for ~20 minutes now
[19:17] <Abd_allatif> what is its model? i heared that some laptops suffer from overheating. but not in new models
[19:17] <TheUnnamedDude> HP 4330S with celeron
[19:18] <bbaaxx> zwacky: thumbs up !
[19:18] <davison> Anyone had experience running cinnamon or mate with ubuntu?  I've tried several times and seem to have issues with keyboard shortcuts especially.
[19:18] <davison> Not abe to use ibus/change language for input
[19:18] <gr33n7007h> celeron are just crap alway have been
[19:18] <Abd_allatif> i am going to buy hp pavilion 15-n005tx
[19:18] <TheUnnamedDude> Well, its a school computer, would never bought a celeron if I knew it was what I was getting
[19:19] <Abd_allatif> do you have any problems connecting with WiFi?
[19:19] <TheUnnamedDude> Nope
[19:19] <gr33n7007h> IMHO, sony vaio s series allday, only downfall is the speakers really bad
[19:20] <davison> any laptop speakers are bound to be pretty awful
[19:20] <TheUnnamedDude> ^
[19:20] <gr33n7007h> davison, no, s series speakers are grim
[19:20] <davison> gr33n7007h: that doesn't negate my comment.
[19:21] <Abd_allatif> so, do you advice me buying that notebook?
[19:21] <gr33n7007h> davison, comparing to other laptops their grim
[19:21] <bbaaxx> With the exeption of some Dell XPS laptops that have JBC speakers, they sound pretty cool
[19:21] <davison> gr33n7007h: comparing any laptop noise makers to speakers is grim
[19:22] <gr33n7007h> davison, got your point
[19:22] <davison> get a set of decent open-backed headphones
[19:22] <davison> enjoy bliss
[19:22] <sultunate> Are there any good docs for remote sysloging everything in a directory like /var/log/* or everything under /opt/myapp/*.log
[19:23] <gr33n7007h> they sound like frying an egg to death on full whack
[19:23] <gr33n7007h> other than that powerfullest 13inch money can buy
[19:24] <gr33n7007h> get em pretty cheap now with these touch screens coming out
[19:25] <Abd_allatif> this is the specifications http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03928136&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=5447617
[19:31] <gr33n7007h> Abd_allatif, go with the price range, wouldn't be surprised if you could actually run ubuntu x486 lol
[19:32] <Abd_allatif> sorry, i don't understand...?
[19:32] <gr33n7007h> Abd_allatif,  I mean go with what you can afford
[19:32] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: xd
[19:33] <Abd_allatif> ok, thanks
[19:34] <gr33n7007h> remember back in the day commodore 64 was the shit use to love that peice
[19:35] <bbaaxx> LOAD "oldstuff"*,8,1
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | gr33n7007h (also watch your language)
[19:35] <gr33n7007h> SonikkuAmerica, oops just reminising sorry
[19:36] <guzzi_jones> i need to downgrade "mail" to 2.5.3.  per http://www.redmine.org/issues/13698%20downgrade%20pour%20le%20mail
[19:36] <gr33n7007h> also bbaaxx lol yeah
[19:36] <guzzi_jones> how do i do that?
[19:36] <guzzi_jones> nvmd
[19:36] <guzzi_jones> i got it
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> guzzi_jones  why downgrade? start from the beginning, maybe there's a better solution
[19:36] <guzzi_jones> it is gem mail
[19:38] <bbaaxx> at some point I installed VICE but never really had the time to play with it
[19:39] <bbaaxx> but if you are into that stuff (xd) you should give it a try
[19:40] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, think I downloaded a distro with that on but can't remember what it was now full emulator of commodores :/
[19:42] <gr33n7007h> first ever computer i touched was the bbc microcomputer 1
[19:42] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: VICE is available in the repos via apt
[19:43] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, lemme check
[19:44] <gr33n7007h> so it is excellent haha
[19:44] <bbaaxx> for me it was the C16, the bbc was the one you had to plug to a tv set ?
[19:45] <gr33n7007h> tv set or the actual mega convex bbc monitor
[19:45] <bbaaxx> and had support for something like 16 colors
[19:45] <bbaaxx> yeah, it was awesome at the time
[19:45] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, wasn't off it :)
[19:47] <gr33n7007h> i'll play later cheers!
[19:50] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, did you ever have an acorn risc
[19:50] <gr33n7007h> nm i'm getting a bit off topic now :)
[19:51]  * gr33n7007h thinks so people do have the same love for computers as me :)
[19:52] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: nope, never, just the three commodores 16, 64 and then the 128
[19:53] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: before jumping to my first ia8086
[19:53] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, 128 with numeric keyboard
[19:54] <gr33n7007h> when the enter key was return little brown keys awesome love it
[19:54] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: yep, the 128D which came in a desktop form factor
[19:55] <gr33n7007h> what modem did you have?
[19:56] <gr33n7007h> I had the psion pcmia looping though dial-up 14.4 kbits awe man that was fast lol :)
[19:56] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: but this one was all beige
[19:56] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: didn't had one at the time, but I did had one of those dat tape readers
[19:56] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: that looked exactly like audio cassettes (I wonder how many of the channel visitors know what an audio cassette is)
[19:57] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, I still got one some where, joystick an all
[19:58] <gr33n7007h> 5 1/4 inch jeez held about half a meg
[19:59] <gr33n7007h> man just wish I could go back in time
[19:59] <gr33n7007h> all the memories
[20:00] <gr33n7007h> how technology transpires hey
[20:01] <mr_lou> After upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04, I can suddenly no longer mount UDF ISO images in a writeable state. What gives?
[20:03] <urgodfather> hello, can someone please help me troubleshoot a no sound over hdmi issue
[20:03] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: Dude, you were rich ! most people still connected at 9600 baups XD
[20:04] <urgodfather> i have already attempted to install pavucontrol and can see sound activity when i attempt to test sound via hdmi, however i still do not hear anything
[20:05] <intok> Kabini has OSS UVD and VCE right? What do I need to get that going?
[20:06] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: Pff, got kicked for speaking computer porn
[20:06] <bbaaxx> gr33n7007h: Guess is time to do some actual work ;) catch up later
[20:07] <gr33n7007h> bbaaxx, c u later dude :)
[20:07] <grek> i have drwxrwxrw-   5 grek users  4096 Mar  6 20:46 home
[20:08] <grek> postgres@debian-dev:/home/grek$ cd /home/
[20:08] <grek> bash: cd: /home/: Permission denied
[20:08] <grek> what can by a reason for it ?
[20:09] <grek> this is mount /dev/sdb on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[20:09] <JoBArTe_Skuld> its possible to measure server traffic by domain? today I use vnstat, but I don't know if this support that I need
[20:13] <jhutchins> grek: So you don't have permissions to /home - that's perfectly normal.  You shouldn't be doing anything there.
[20:13] <grek> ls -la
[20:13] <grek>  drwxrwxrw-   5 grek users  4096 Mar  6 20:46 home
[20:13] <grek> 775
[20:14] <grek> 777 ?
[20:14] <grek> why dont have permissions
[20:14] <llutz> grek: you are usre postgres  and "others" permisson on /home doesn't include executable/traverse
[20:15] <llutz> user postgres*
[20:15] <SeanLeftBelow> Hi, I was wondering if I am in the right place. I seem to have locked up my session on ubuntu, and I need help troubleshooting how to fix my session without just rebooting the darn thing. Im running 12.04 with Gnome3 and it seems its an ongoing problem since I installed Pepper-Flash yesterday.
[20:16] <grek> ok you have right i setup chmod 777 /home/
[20:16] <grek> and now work
[20:16] <llutz> grek: stupid thing btw
[20:16] <grek> why
[20:16] <HeaderFile> look
[20:16] <Ben64> grek: you might not want /home to be 777
[20:16] <grek> yes
[20:17] <llutz> grek: world-writable is a security issue.
[20:17] <Ben64> and why does your user own /home ??
[20:17] <llutz>  me thinks: sudo user without a clue fixing stuff
[20:17] <grek> add postgress to users - useradd -G users postgres
[20:17] <grek> useradd: user 'postgres' already exists
[20:18] <geirha> Ben64: s/might not/do not under any circumstances/
[20:18] <ai6pg> urgodfather: have you tried sound control from the top left in unity ?
[20:18] <Ben64> eh, there might be an actual reason somehow
[20:18] <grek> so why postgres  cant write in home - drwxrwxrw-   5 grek users  4096 Mar  6 20:46 home
[20:18] <geirha> not really
[20:18] <llutz> grek: why should he do that?
[20:18] <urgodfather> ai6pg: that was the first thing i tried
[20:18] <Ben64> anyway, grek you really need to fix your permissions.
[20:19] <grek> how to do it ? i need to postgres will by user with home/postgres not /opt/Pos...
[20:19] <gundam> ciao
[20:19] <geirha> grek: Every user on your system can now replace your homedir with a directory containing malicious files
[20:19] <ai6pg> urgodfather:  are you trying to output from Linux to an Amp or TV ?
[20:20] <urgodfather> ai6pg: tv
[20:20] <mr_lou> After upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04, I can suddenly no longer mount ISO images in a writeable state. They're mounted as readonly. What gives? Worked fine in previous version. :-(
[20:20] <geirha> grek: I recommend reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[20:20] <urgodfather> ai6pg: had to replace my hdd b/c it crapped out... i.e. fresh install
[20:20] <urgodfather> ai6pg: i think i have it fixed
[20:21] <urgodfather> followed this http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2012/04/28/how-to-fix-nvidia-hdmi-audio-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[20:21] <llutz> grek: /opt/Postgres? why the heck would that be postgres default home
[20:21] <ai6pg> urgodfather: I would check that the right output device is selected in  sound. It might be a hdmi security issue though.
[20:22] <Ben64> mr_lou: iso9660 is not a filesystem you can mount writable
[20:22] <gundam> ciao sono gundam
[20:23] <grek> postgres is db user autogenerated ok but its not very important now this is one user machine - for testing only
[20:23] <ai6pg> urgodfather: that looks good. I'll give it a try myself. I'm running 13.10 with the 3.13.5 kernel
[20:23] <mr_lou> Ben64, No, it's ISO 13346 / UDF.
[20:23] <Ben64> grek: just because its for testing doesn't mean you can do it wrong
[20:23] <diego__1> did anybody installed popcorntime for movie streaming torrents???
[20:23] <vnole> hello to all, I'm getting an error message when trying to download youtube videos via youtube-dl
[20:23] <mr_lou> Ben64, And it worked fine before upgrading.
[20:23] <urgodfather> ai6pg: seems to be working after doing so
[20:23] <urgodfather> even made the file in etc at the end
[20:24] <geirha> grek: Many programs will stop working if you use too permissive permissions on certain files
[20:24] <ai6pg> urgodfather:  it's working for you now. If so, good.
[20:24] <gundam> !list
[20:24] <grek> for now yes thanks
[20:24] <urgodfather> supprisingly replaced my hdd with a sd card
[20:25] <urgodfather> no need for a 1tb when all i do is stream
[20:25] <dopfn_14> Hello folks, I'm one of you fro using Ubuntu for almost 3 years but still sucking about terminal and system control, need help :)
[20:25] <Ben64> mr_lou: you need udftools to be able to write to udf images
[20:26] <mr_lou> Ben64, Yes I know. I have them.
[20:26] <Ben64> mr_lou: try the stuff listed here http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/5.1/multimedia/udftools.html
[20:26] <mr_lou> Ben64, But the issue is not about writing UDF images. It's about mounting UDF images so I can change the content in them.
[20:27] <vnole> hello to all, I'm getting an error message when trying to download youtube videos via youtube-dl. this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7046236/
[20:27] <gr33n7007h> vnole, what error message?
[20:27] <gr33n7007h> oops
[20:27] <mr_lou> Ben64, sudo mount -t udf -o loop,rw someUDF.iso /tmp/cdr <-- would mount fine in previous version of Ubuntu and let me copy files to /tmp/cdr. Now it mounts as readonly.
[20:28] <robi_> hola
[20:29] <gr33n7007h> vnole, is it just one link or all links?
[20:30] <jhutchins> Strange.  If I restart apache, I get "Restarting web server: htcacheclean apache2httpd (pid 16544) already running".  If I check ps ax, only htcacheclean is there.  If I run it again, it starts apache.
[20:31] <jhutchins> this is using service apache2 restart or /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[20:31] <gr33n7007h> hey vnole give us the url your tring to download
[20:33] <mattg104> Hi
[20:33] <vnole> gr33n7007h, it doesnt matter what link. it happens in each one I tried
[20:34] <jdavis> My browser is driving me crazy. Every few minutes it freezes up (goes grey) for about 30 seconds, then goes back to normal.
[20:34] <jdavis> I mostly use firefox, but the same thing happens with Chromium
[20:36] <gr33n7007h> vnole, have you tried upraged youtube-dl?
[20:36] <gr33n7007h> *upgrading
[20:36] <vnole> gr33n7007h no, but I reinstalled it
[20:36] <vnole> gr33n7007h no, maybe I reinstalled the same version. how can I upgrade it?
[20:37] <gr33n7007h> I just tries 3 now using version 2014.02.22.1
[20:38] <gr33n7007h> youtube-dl -U
[20:38] <jdavis> Is there any chance that the browser freezes up due to a flaky internet connection?
[20:38] <gr33n7007h> all work using it
[20:41] <gr33n7007h> jdavis, not at all
[20:42] <jdavis> it must be some library I updated but I have no idea what
[20:42] <jdavis> I think I saw the same problem with Chromium, so it would have to be used by both
[20:42] <jdavis> or maybe an OS-wide issue
[20:42] <seanleftbelow> jdavis, is that a known issue? Browser lockup because of flaky internet connection?
[20:42] <gr33n7007h> jdavis, why don't you just download google-chrome?
[20:42] <rostam> hi I am using ubuntu 12.04 update 4. The output of ifconfig displays an interface which I am not sure what it is:   ax0  192.168.4.1   what is ax0 interface? thx
[20:42] <jdavis> seanleftbelow, no, it was just a guess because it started around the same time as I had an outage
[20:43] <jdavis> gr33n7007h instead of Chromium? I guess I could try that.
[20:43] <seanleftbelow> Hmm, I read something on the forums about a similar problem today thats why I ask.
[20:43] <gr33n7007h> jdavis, I would
[20:43] <jdavis> OK.
[20:43] <gr33n7007h> make sure to remove chromium though
[20:43] <jdavis> Worth a try. Thanks gr33n7007h
[20:44] <gr33n7007h> jdavis, I always use google-chrome deb never had a problem
[20:44] <Voyage> rsync cant do two way syncing. is there an opton?
[20:44] <Voyage> s/opton/option
[20:46] <seanleftbelow> Have any of you ever seen a gnome session completely lock up? I cant get my session to respond no matter what I try in the terminal.
[20:57] <grek> i pust to .profile in bottom new line export PGDATA=/home/postgres/9.2/data;
[20:57] <grek> reboot run console - echo $PGDATA; and have nothink what i do wrong ?
[20:57] <llutz> rostam: atheros wifi?
[20:59] <kruzboy> Guys, I've done an apt-get of CCSM, can't get the shit transparency or opacity to work for me.. What am I doing wronfg
[20:59] <kruzboy> err, *wrong
[21:03] <kruzboy> anyone around?
[21:05] <dgarstang> I'm trying to write a script that installs a list of packages from a file, and I want the format to allow package_name>=1.1 etc. Not sure if apt-get supports >= natively?
[21:05] <kruzboy> dgarstang: umm, _|_
[21:05] <dgarstang> kruzboy: que?
[21:06] <kruzboy> habla espaniol
[21:06] <dgarstang> No. :)
[21:06] <genii> dgarstang: Yes, you can do like: apt-get install package=version-number
[21:06] <dgarstang> genii: right, but I need >=
[21:06] <genii> dgarstang: It will only do exact version
[21:06] <dgarstang> genii: :(
[21:14] <Kroosec> PDF with embedded videos. Can't read them with both Evince and Okular (they appear as pictues)... Works fine on Windows :( Any solution ? (Ubuntu 13.10, Gnome Shell fwiw)
[21:15] <us`0gb> PDFs with embedded videos .... what? I didn't even know that was possible. What an ugly sort of mess that must be.
[21:21] <Kroosec> I just discovered it too.... with a bad taste :(
[21:27] <Guest96214> how do you do asynchronous DISK io on linux? i have done some tinkering with async epool server, its great, but what do i use for disk io?
[21:29] <bekks> Guest96214: async IO is the default.
[21:31] <linuxlite1983> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY  fails to activate via  system settings > additional drivers (Broadcom STA wireless driver)
[21:32] <linuxlite1983> anyone out there have any tips?
[21:34] <phidah> When I run apt I get the following error: "ucfr: Attempt from package php5-cli  to take /etc/php5/cli/php.ini away from package php5-fpm"
[21:34] <phidah> How do I fix it?
[21:35] <edoop> hi , do you know python  channel?
[21:35] <mr_lou> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22236311/how-to-mount-udf-image-writable-in-ubuntu-12-04-and-later
[21:39] <seronis> if i want to delete every instance of thumbs.db located in any subdirectory of a specific path, how would i do that with one command?
[21:40] <llutz> seronis: find /path -type f -name thumbs.db -delete
[21:40] <seronis> thank you
[21:41] <saliak> anyone had luck setting up a xmpp server like prosody?
[21:42] <CyberGabber> llutz: Some additional info: http://www.linuxnov.com/how-to-easily-delete-thumbs-db-files-from-all-directories/
[21:43] <llutz> seronis: ^^
[21:43] <mekon> how you use two monitors in kubuntu? is it possible one virtual desktop on one monitor?
[21:43] <DereC> hi trying to make an distro upgrade from raring to saucy but system wont allow me, tryed apt-get dist-upgrade and also do-release-upgrade, all last updates done all latest updates... anyone able to help?
[21:44] <quants> hi guys, im having a little trouble getting java to work on this thing, any advice?
[21:44] <wumbo> I'm having incredibly slow speeds transfering to a usb 3.0 ext HDD over a usb 2.0 connection. Thought it had something to do with the external being a 4k drive, but I'm thinking it maybe something usb 3.0?
[21:44] <quants> to be more specific i need to load jave so i can run somthing on the internet page.
[21:47] <pmenon> hello, anyone around?
[21:48] <quants> pmenon: im around
[21:49] <pmenon> anyone have experience getting ubuntu (or kubuntu) on a macbook retina ?
[21:50] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | DereC
[21:54] <Venoryk> I am having issues getting wpasupplicant set up via console anybody able to assist?
[21:55] <mekon> Venoryk: i have not any problems, just use interfaces
[21:56] <quixotic> hello, I cant make youtube-dl work. it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7046236/
[21:57] <Venoryk> I'm trying to set up an XBMC box on a Zotac AD04 using the 13.10 mini, which doesn't come w/ wpasupplicant installed and configured so I've installed it and tried setting up the wpa_supplicant.conf but still cannot connect to a network
[22:03] <DereC> ubottu still same, should i just change raring to saucy in sources.list?
[22:03] <DereC> Ben64,  still same, should i just change raring to saucy in sources.list?
[22:04] <sab> hello all, what is the best tool to use for disaster recovery? I mean full bootable backup? I do not want to use clonezilla as it is too limited (no incremental backup and target disk need to be larger than source)
[22:05] <sab> thank you in advance for your help
[22:08] <basketballl> hi is anyone here
[22:09] <Ben64> DereC: no!
[22:10] <fabio> hy
[22:11] <daftykins> basketballl: what's up?
[22:12] <akurilin2> Is there much I can do if I plug in a camera with a memory card in it, plug it in and it doesn't show up under /dev ? dmesg gives me the device number, but no actual /dev file
[22:13] <akurilin2> And I'm not using the default window manager / nautilus, so I can't have that automatically handle it for me
[22:13] <akurilin2> I know when I run stock ubuntu it works just fine through nautilus
[22:13] <daftykins> akurilin2: does it show from "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[22:13] <akurilin2> daftykins: doesn't show up
[22:13] <basketballl> how do i synchronize the caps lock numlock and scroll lock status lights of two keyboards one being USB and one being laptops keyboard. Like when i press the caps button on on keyboard both that and the other keyboard's caps lock light turns on and same with num lock and scroll lock
[22:13] <akurilin2> So I'm guessing it just didn't get picked up by the kernel eh?
[22:14] <akurilin2> This was on two different machines actually (the one with stock ubuntu vs this one where I'm having issues)
[22:14] <daftykins> akurilin2: does it normally show as mass storage, or is it MTP?
[22:14] <akurilin2> daftykins: how would I know this?
[22:15] <daftykins> akurilin2: boot normal Ubuntu, plug it in and see if fdisk -l shows it i guess
[22:18] <akurilin2> ah ok, I'll try that
[22:18] <basketballl> how do i set up altgr
[22:26] <Venoryk> Instead of manually configuring the wpa_supplicant.conf, can I just copy the one off of the live boot and use it? If so is there anything else I would need to grab? Configuring my wifi in /etc/network/interfaces and putting my SSID and passphrase in manually there I can connect to wifi, but that's the only way i've been able to.
[22:27] <schultza> Where do I ask about setting up virtual surround sound volumes on a usb digital device? Ubuntu is reporting two devices on USB audio. Digital and Stereo as seperate devices which is correct. But on the digital, I still only get Left and Right channels only.
[22:28] <basketballl> how do i set up altgr
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> schultza  try #ubuntustudio
[22:29] <schultza> MonkeyDust: thanks.
[22:31] <sab> hello I have a raid 5 software on 3 hdd and my system on a separate hdd (lvm). If my system disk fails would I be able to recover my raid 5? What is the best way to backup my system drive in case of disaster recovery? cloenzilla or would a dejadup on / would be sufficient? thank you for your help
[22:31] <Ca11um> If I have 8 GB RAM (I believe that's relevant?), how much SWAP space should I allocate?
[22:32] <sab> Callum: depend but 4 Go seems good
[22:32] <Ca11um> The amount of SWAP space doesn't need to match the RAM, does it? I don't need 8 GB SWAP?
[22:33] <sab> callum no
[22:33] <adam_>  Ca11um: How much hard drive space do you have?
[22:33] <Ca11um> adam_, The entire HDD is 298 GB, but the partition space available is 120.75 GB
[22:34] <Ca11um> The currently used space is Windows 7
[22:34] <sab> I dont even have a swap on my system ... with plenty of ram you just need swap for hibernation and "4 Go is more than sufficient
[22:34] <Ca11um> What exactly is swap?
[22:34] <sab> in case you run out of ram swap is used
[22:34] <adam_> Ca11um: Yeah. Then 4gb should be good. If you had a shittone of space then I'd say go 8, but 4 is just fine.
[22:35] <adam_> Ca11um: Its kinda like the page file on Windows.
[22:35] <Ca11um> Ah, well I never use more than 3 GB of RAM, so I'm sure 4 is more than enough
[22:35] <Ca11um> Thank you for your time, adam_ and sab.
[22:36] <sab> hello I have a raid 5 software on 3 hdd and my system on a separate hdd (lvm). If my system disk fails would I be able to recover my raid 5? What is the best way to backup my system drive in case of disaster recovery? cloenzilla or would a dejadup on / would be sufficient? thank you for your help
[22:37] <DereC> doed it matter what distro am i using on latest stable mainline kernel?
[22:40] <dgarstang> So... redhat lets me install two versions of the same package on a box. I can't do that with debian packages can I...
[22:40] <mgolisch> gcordoba: really? never noticed that
[22:41] <mgolisch> hows that gona work?
[22:41] <OerHeks> dgarstang, x64 an i386?
[22:42] <dgarstang> OerHeks: amd64
[22:42] <OerHeks> x64 and i386 verions i mean?
[22:42] <dgarstang> OerHeks: no, just x64
[22:43] <mgolisch> dgarstang: proof?
[22:43] <mgolisch> i cant imagine how that would work
[22:43] <dgarstang> mgolisch: proof of?
[22:43] <Jordan_U> dgarstang: rpm does not allow multiple versions of the same package to be installed at once, and neither does dpkg.
[22:43] <OerHeks> dgarstang, what package are you pointing at?
[22:43] <mgolisch> that redhat/rpm supports that
[22:43] <sudormrf> hey guys.  something is wrong with one of my cron jobs.  it is supposed to be overwriting a file each time it runs, but instead it blanks the file out.  can someone help me out?
[22:43] <dgarstang> Jordan_U: rpm does with the force flag
[22:43] <Lukas2014> hi, i installed Xubuntu 13.10 on my Laptop with a new SSD and LVM. Im not very experienced with LVM and therefore I just wanted to ask if i can use the TRIM command with this configuration. The filesystem must be ext4 but in gparted i can see that there is some partition called boot wich is ext2 and the main partition is lvm2 pv.
[22:43] <Blanco__> Bonne soirée/nuit les gens :)
[22:44] <Jordan_U> dgarstang: And what does it do with files common to both package (which will be essentially all of the files in the two packages)?
[22:44] <daftykins> Lukas2014: TRIM is part of the ATA spec and irrespective of file system and partition scheme
[22:44] <dgarstang> Jordan_U: These are custom packages, so they install to different root locations.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> dgarstang: Then give them different names.
[22:45] <dgarstang> Jordan_U: at least in the case of rpm, it didn't care about the root directory for both being common
[22:45] <dgarstang> Jordan_U: not really a manageable solution
[22:45] <Rallias> How can I find out what the system call for pivot_root is?
[22:46] <Lukas2014> daftykins: But here it is a prerequisite - http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[22:46] <dgarstang> how disappointing
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Rallias: It's "pivot_root".
[22:47] <dgarstang> it does make .deb's a far less positive choice for software deployments, that's for sure.
[22:47] <sudormrf> the command is supposed to check the IPTables for any ip addresses then write those IP addresses to a file.  It works fine if I run the command manually.  When I force the cron job it works as well.  but when I let the job run on its own it erases the file.
[22:47] <Rallias> Jordan_U, Thanks. Is there a reference that I can look at to find this information on my own in the future?
[22:47] <mgolisch> dgarstang: why?
[22:47] <al1o> is there an application for OSX to view remotely the Ubuntu log files?
[22:47] <BETTY_> Just updating my Ubuntu installation, and my LAMP setup stopped working.. it was a pretty complicated setup since I work on many and multiple websites. How can I debug it and see what's going wrong?
[22:47] <mgolisch> al1o: terminal.app?
[22:47] <mgolisch> :)
[22:48] <al1o> mgolisch hehe
[22:48] <dgarstang> mgolisch: it's a pretty common requirement that software deployments be easily rollback-able. About the fast way that can happen is if the same package is installed multiple times, to different root paths, and then a symlink changed.
[22:48] <Jester> I just upgraded to 13.10
[22:48] <Jester> Can't seem to locate my previous files from Home folder
[22:49] <mgolisch> dgarstang: and rpm allows that?
[22:49] <Jester> When upgrading I chose the option that preserved my settings
[22:49] <dgarstang> mgolisch: yes. I worked at a previous company where the version of the package was set in the path. I would install multiple times, using the force flag. A listing of the packages would show all installed.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Rallias: "man pivot_root" will get you man (8) pivot_root, the command, which itelf refers to man (2) pivot_root, the system call.
[22:50] <Jester> How do I find out exactly what happened?
[22:50] <Rallias> I thought man (2) was for libraries as opposed to system calls...
[22:50] <Rallias> I learn something every day.
[22:50] <Jester> Is recovery a possibility w/o explicit backup?
[22:51] <Rallias> Jester ls /home
[22:51] <dgarstang> at this point, upgrading to a tarball would give the functionality that a .deb fails to provide.
[22:52] <Ontological> This might sound weird, but I've gotten Ubuntu 13.10 installed on my Macbook Air and I'm using gnome-classic/gnome-panel.  I understand I need to press ALT+SUPER+RightClick to access a Gnome Panel panel's settings.  Unfortunately, I am unable to do this.  Pressing only Super brings up all of my open windows in an alt+tab type thing and pressing ALT+SUPER+RightClick has no affect on the panel.  Any suggestions?
[22:52] <Jester> Rallias: How do I find/make appear in GUI?
[22:52] <Ontological> (My goal is the remove the bottom gnome-panel, btw)
[22:53] <Rallias> Jester, On the left of the file window, click file system, then navigate to home.
[22:53] <mgolisch> dgarstang: why dont you just use the version in the package name?
[22:53] <mgolisch> that would be much cleaner
[22:54] <dgarstang> mgolisch: that hack would mean having hundreds of packages with different names.
[22:54] <Jester> Rallias: I have done that to no avail. File appears in terminal but not in GUI
[22:54] <dgarstang> mgolisch: I also don't know how the ubuntu utilities would handle foo_1_1 and foo_1_2 and so on
[22:56] <Jester> Rallias: Can files be hidden in Ubuntu?
[22:57] <sudormrf> anyone see my question?
[22:57] <mgolisch> dgarstang: hm dont know of a different way of doing it with dpkg
[22:57] <mgolisch> and the fact that rpm allows what you do does not actualy guarantee that anything ontop of it doesnt get confused by that
[22:58] <dgarstang> mgolisch: darn tootin. :(
[22:58] <dgarstang> mgolisch: if the root dir is unique, it works
[22:58] <dgarstang> mgolisch: if the root door isn't unique, it fails. *shrug*
[22:58] <Jester> Rallias WTF!?
[22:58] <mgolisch> yeah think rpm realy only cares for file conflicts
[23:02] <alami> hello, i want to blacklist a module, so i have add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:03] <alami> do i need to restart?
[23:04] <Guest96214> how a are signals in linux different from callbacks?
[23:05] <basketballl> how do i set up altgr
[23:07] <Jordan_U> Guest96214: I'd say they are different in more ways than they are similar. Just study signals and study callbacks.
[23:15] <basketballl> how do i do this in 13.10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey#Ubuantu_with_Gnome_desktop
[23:34] <gcordoba> g
[23:40] <Arpad2> I don't know why , there is no sound on my xubuntu 13.10
[23:42] <tk-silveira> boa noite galera
[23:42] <tk-silveira> Estou com um probleminha meu ultrabook tem saida hdmi porem ao ligar na minha tv o audio nao esta funcionando como posso resolver isso
[23:43] <luigihs> hello
[23:44] <MrsDalloway> tk-silveira:  é melhor vc tentar colocar em ingles,nao?
[23:44] <dummylinux> i would like to define shortcut to a directory
[23:44] <dummylinux> hi all where can i locate cshrc file?
[23:44] <bekks> dummylinux: In your home, it is called ".cshrc"
[23:45] <basketball> bekks, askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[23:45] <dummylinux> \#.cshrc\#
[23:45] <dummylinux> ?
[23:45] <luigihs> hello does anyone know where to get drivers for gateway laptop nv55c
[23:45] <bekks> dummylinux: Without the \ and without the #
[23:45] <bekks> luigihs: Which drivers for what exactly?
[23:46] <luigihs> video
[23:46] <luigihs> and mouse
[23:46] <luigihs> I would really appreciate
[23:46] <bekks> luigihs: So which graphics chipset do you have?
[23:46] <luigihs> Intel HD Graphics
[23:47] <dummylinux> bekks: how do i source it?
[23:47] <dummylinux> source .cshrc ?
[23:47] <bekks> dummylinux: ". ~/.cshrc" or "source ~/.cshrc"
[23:49] <bekks> luigihs: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_HD_Graphics
[23:49] <bekks> luigihs: Basically that article is about Intel HD graphics chipsets, not about IBM Lenovo thinkpads.
[23:50] <luigihs> oh ok
[23:50] <luigihs> cause I dont have that
[23:50] <bekks> luigihs: Yeah, just read the pretty short article - Intel HD support is pretty generic, since there is only one driver.
[23:51] <luigihs> but theres any download link?
[23:51] <bekks> luigihs: _read_ the article, dont search for download links.
[23:52] <skay> hi, how can I automate setting locale for an install? I have a script that provisions a vagrant image
[23:52] <bekks> luigihs: " Xorg driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel." So you can do: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[23:52] <skay> I want to be able to set up an image and specify the local, and I only know how to run the command that gives people an ncurses menu
[23:53] <luigihs> okk thanks
[23:54] <luigihs> sorry for bother u but I have problem with the mouse as well
[23:54] <humbag> hi, after a successful chroot to run update-grub, I exited, unmounted the bound virtual filesystems, then removed the mount-point, without umounting the partition.  I stopped the removal quick as but too slow. Now when I mount the partition from a live usb, it looks normal except /bin is not there.  What can I do?
[23:54] <luigihs> like I cant use the scroll down
[23:54] <luigihs> that is integrated with my laptop
[23:54] <bekks> luigihs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[23:57] <daftykins> humbag: so you ran "rm /mnt" ?
[23:58] <humbag> rm -r /media/sda5 actually, notso daftykins
[23:58] <humbag> i'm gonna make myself an idiot hat for this
[23:59] <daftykins> humbag: that was a highly curious move. ok, setup a VM with the same version, fully update it, install packages you have that aren't on as default, then copy the missing /bin over preserving permissions