combinatoric | is anyone interested in working on adding a hibernate function to Ubuntu Studio? | 00:35 |
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combinatoric | I can get it to work from the command line but it would be nice for it to be included on the shut down options | 00:35 |
fibz_ | studio has hibernate, it is disabled by default untill you test to ensure it works on your hardware | 00:36 |
combinatoric | ok. I run sudo pm hibernate and it works | 00:36 |
combinatoric | but when I turn on my computer it loads into my User Account, not into the main start page | 00:36 |
combinatoric | what's the best way to enable it? | 00:38 |
fibz_ | sorry, i've been googleing this whole time. i've beenhaving trouble finding even the most simple things in search engines lately... heres one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t | 00:42 |
combinatoric | cool I will check it out. thanks | 00:54 |
butcho | hi | 01:21 |
fibz_ | did you need help with something? | 01:27 |
potential | Hello, I would like to ask a question that perhaps don't have much to do with Ubuntu Studio itself that much. | 02:57 |
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vadimkolchev | hi all. how can I convert flv to 3gp easily? didn't do anything of it in linux | 08:54 |
Patero-ng | hello | 09:14 |
Patero-ng | I'd like to talk about security in ubuntu | 09:14 |
cfhowlett | Patero-ng, general security discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic or an actual solveable problem | 09:18 |
cfhowlett | ? | 09:19 |
Patero-ng | I'd like to know if timming works | 09:27 |
guest-03CRQ3 | buenas al personal | 15:37 |
kidx | hello how do I set up IDJC | 20:35 |
kidx | any one got a english video link? | 20:35 |
holstein | video? | 20:52 |
holstein | kidx: you can just install and run it | 20:52 |
holstein | !proaudio | 20:52 |
ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 20:52 |
holstein | you'll likely want to use it with jack.. | 20:52 |
holstein | you can ask in #opensourcemusicians ..but it pretty much click/configure and run | 20:52 |
kidx | I am new to this | 20:53 |
kidx | i like what i see but all the sound is not right | 20:53 |
holstein | kidx: maybe you can find an easier way to do what you are doing | 20:53 |
kidx | I could if i had a tutorial | 20:53 |
holstein | kidx: sure.. for what? | 20:53 |
kidx | but none are in english | 20:53 |
kidx | I learn by video | 20:53 |
holstein | kidx: the issue with tutorials are, your hardware is differet | 20:53 |
holstein | kidx: there is no one with a video on your specific hardware about runing JACK | 20:54 |
kidx | no | 20:54 |
zequence | kidx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzyjDeEAw4 | 20:54 |
kidx | ii dont car for that | 20:54 |
kidx | i just need to learn how to use it | 20:54 |
kidx | let along driver stuff | 20:54 |
holstein | kidx: i used it with JACK.. it requires JACK, AFAIK | 20:55 |
zequence | jack is a pro audio server, which you need to run manually | 20:55 |
zequence | It's not a big deal to learn | 20:55 |
zequence | Takes five minutes | 20:55 |
kidx | so i cant talk on skpye | 20:55 |
kidx | and talk to my buddys | 20:55 |
zequence | kidx: Sure you caqn | 20:56 |
kidx | reminds me of ASIO | 20:56 |
zequence | kidx: if you're on Ubuntu Studio, that is | 20:56 |
kidx | but for linux | 20:56 |
kidx | and better coded | 20:56 |
kidx | i am | 20:56 |
zequence | sort of, though ASIO is about drivers, not an audio server | 20:56 |
zequence | jack is an audio server, which uses ALSA drivers | 20:56 |
zequence | you can read more about that in the link that holstein provided you with | 20:57 |
kidx | oh so whats the big differ besides it being server what the advantages | 20:57 |
kidx | i guess better all aroud preformance no blue screens of death | 20:57 |
zequence | it's a system which allows any application that supports jack to connect to any other jack application | 20:57 |
zequence | so, a lot better than ASIO | 20:58 |
kidx | ok | 20:58 |
kidx | well ill look at the video | 20:58 |
kidx | ill look aroud for jack tutorials | 20:58 |
kidx | and come back if i need to | 20:58 |
kidx | my goal is to learn IDJC | 20:58 |
zequence | kidx: On UBuntu Studio, after starting jack, if you want to hear desktop audio, just set desktop audio to use jack as output | 20:58 |
kidx | and do my radio | 20:58 |
holstein | kidx: its really qutie simple.. JACK is the challenging bit | 20:58 |
holstein | kidx: you dont need either to do "radio" | 20:58 |
kidx | huh | 20:59 |
zequence | kidx: Basically, you need to select the correct device, and click start. That's it | 20:59 |
kidx | i am trying to use mixx | 20:59 |
holstein | kidx: you can, for example, run a simple streaming application, and use an external mixer to route your voice and music | 20:59 |
holstein | or, several machines | 20:59 |
holstein | there are many ways to do "raiod" | 20:59 |
holstein | radio* | 20:59 |
kidx | well i need to learn this | 20:59 |
holstein | jack with idjc is just one way.. and it will work, but i wouldnt get too worried about it | 20:59 |
kidx | i am so used to plug and pray on linux | 20:59 |
kidx | I dont really lean nothing techinicall | 21:00 |
kidx | sorry windows | 21:00 |
zequence | The audio in linux is scattered into many systems. It hasn't been prioritized | 21:00 |
kidx | i wanna learn better things | 21:00 |
zequence | But, it works | 21:00 |
kidx | sounds better than widnows for sure | 21:00 |
kidx | so how do i exaclty connect to my server with shoutcast with IDJC | 21:01 |
zequence | on any OS you have to learn a few things to get going. Linux is easier in the mainstream part, but as soon as you step out of that, things can get a bit steeper | 21:01 |
zequence | Still, it's not that challenging | 21:02 |
kidx | I learn from eacthing and doing less typing | 21:02 |
kidx | watching | 21:02 |
zequence | kidx: Always start jack first. Make sure to select the correct device. Then start your jack application and set it up for your needs | 21:03 |
kidx | jack is open | 21:05 |
zequence | you mean, you started jack with qjackctl, or you opened qjackctl? | 21:05 |
kidx | i just opened jack | 21:06 |
kidx | Qjackctl | 21:06 |
kidx | i tihnk | 21:06 |
zequence | jack is not qjackctl | 21:06 |
zequence | qjackctl is just a gui application to control jack | 21:06 |
zequence | jack is a headless audio server, which can be controlled by numerous applications | 21:07 |
kidx | so then qjackctl will do | 21:07 |
zequence | in Setup, choose your audio device, under "Interface" | 21:08 |
zequence | There are two arrows, use the one that points to the right | 21:08 |
zequence | You should see stuff like hw:0, hw:1, with names attached | 21:08 |
zequence | Internal devices are usually called Intel something | 21:09 |
zequence | Don't select input and output separately, that will only confuse things | 21:09 |
zequence | usually, the internal device is listed at the top, which is the same as default, but that can change at each boot | 21:09 |
zequence | Actually, newer qjackctl doesn't say hw:0, hw:1, it says things like hw:Intel | 21:10 |
zequence | This is better, cause it means that the device you select will remain the same after each boot | 21:10 |
zequence | kidx: any particular audio device you are using, or just your internal audio device? | 21:11 |
kidx | just internal | 21:11 |
kidx | i see alot of stuff | 21:11 |
kidx | in qjackctl | 21:11 |
zequence | kidx: so, probably it's the first choice. I would be hw:Intel | 21:11 |
kidx | what goes where lol | 21:11 |
kidx | i need to set each program up | 21:12 |
zequence | kidx: You don't need to know anything else at the moment. Just the device | 21:12 |
kidx | i need to watch a video | 21:12 |
zequence | once you selected the correct device, you start jack, and unless you need low latencies, you are good to go | 21:12 |
kidx | i hear my song | 21:13 |
kidx | woot | 21:13 |
kidx | lol | 21:13 |
kidx | but i need to get mic working | 21:13 |
holstein | test the mic independently.. JACK/linux wont "fix" the mic | 21:17 |
kidx | it works | 21:20 |
kidx | just to get it going on the radio | 21:20 |
kidx | i am trying to get ti connect to my server | 21:20 |
kidx | and stuff | 21:20 |
holstein | you route it in JACK, and use idjc | 21:21 |
holstein | i used BUTT to test my icecast server. to troubleshoot | 21:21 |
holstein | http://butt.sourceforge.net/ | 21:22 |
holstein | didnt require JACK | 21:22 |
kidx | sounds nicer | 21:22 |
kidx | just use a medai player | 21:22 |
kidx | lol | 21:22 |
holstein | i also just use BUTT on a machine, and routed my mic in with hardware | 21:22 |
holstein | i also used a few different machines with analog connections | 21:23 |
kidx | how you use mic | 21:23 |
kidx | like to talk | 21:23 |
holstein | kidx: above are a few ways i did | 21:23 |
holstein | kidx: you can connect with hardware, if you have such hardware.. and use idjc to route it, or use JACK.. or other ways | 21:23 |
kidx | wow | 21:24 |
zequence | Connections in qjackctl? | 21:24 |
kidx | the sounds on this are 100000000000000000 better than sam broadcaster | 21:24 |
zequence | I haven't used that applications myself | 21:24 |
kidx | i want IDJC working | 21:24 |
holstein | the sound should be whatever you have it configured as | 21:24 |
kidx | i am not gona stop till i figure this out | 21:24 |
zequence | in qjackctl you have "Connect" in which you can connect applications and your audio hardware anyway you like | 21:25 |
zequence | Though, you might need to raise the volume for your mic using a mixer | 21:25 |
kidx | i just need my mic fixed | 21:25 |
zequence | The desktop audio (pulseaudio) mixer might do, but if not, use an alsa mixer | 21:26 |
kidx | and route skype and fix every thing | 21:26 |
kidx | then i am happy | 21:26 |
kidx | and broadcast to the world | 21:26 |
holstein | kidx: skype? | 21:26 |
zequence | you can't route skype in itself, but you can route all desktop audio to jack | 21:26 |
holstein | skype is not required for this | 21:26 |
kidx | i wanna get skype audio on my cast | 21:26 |
holstein | i used an icecast server | 21:26 |
zequence | in the desktop audio mixer (settings) set output to jack | 21:26 |
holstein | kidx: you can always use a seperate machine and do analog connections from a box running skype | 21:27 |
zequence | When using jack, desktop audio will no longer be connected to your hardware | 21:28 |
zequence | (this is if you have the pulseaudio-jack-module installed, which you have) | 21:28 |
zequence | ..otherwise too, sorry, but with this module you can connect desktop audio to jack | 21:28 |
zequence | In a sence, desktop audio becomes like a jack application | 21:28 |
zequence | So, in order to connect to your hardware, you need to set desktop audio input and output to use jack | 21:29 |
zequence | jack then connects to your hardware | 21:29 |
kidx | this is frustrating now | 21:34 |
kidx | i had it right now i messed it up | 21:34 |
kidx | i am trying to get it to work rioght | 21:35 |
kidx | how i go online | 21:40 |
holstein | kidx: are you asking how to get online? | 21:41 |
holstein | kidx: on the internet? this chat is on the internet.. | 21:41 |
kidx | no | 21:42 |
kidx | how do i cast my radio | 21:42 |
kidx | its not connecting | 21:42 |
kidx | lol | 21:42 |
holstein | kidx: as i said above, i use butt to troubleshoot | 21:43 |
holstein | kidx: i used it to connect to a known good server that my friends were using that i knew could be connected to | 21:43 |
holstein | then, i used BUTT, to remove JACK configs from the equation | 21:43 |
holstein | from there, i went to using the same settings in idjc, and eventually went to something else | 21:44 |
kidx | setting aint the issue i hear it | 21:45 |
kidx | my issue is IDJC wont connect | 21:45 |
holstein | kidx: sure.. but why? | 21:45 |
holstein | kidx: is it client or server side | 21:45 |
holstein | kidx: playback is irrelevant.. the connection is what im suggestion you troubleshoot | 21:46 |
kidx | i dont care about play back | 21:46 |
holstein | kidx: sure | 21:46 |
kidx | i care avbout connecting to y server | 21:46 |
holstein | kidx: and i understant your furstrations.. but, what you are saying is, you are not connecting to the server | 21:46 |
kidx | if i cant connect to my server then radio is erelevetn | 21:46 |
holstein | kidx: and im suggestion troubleshooting techniques | 21:46 |
holstein | kidx: ping it.. try another server with your client that is "known good" | 21:47 |
kidx | yes but i cant get the server to connect | 21:47 |
kidx | i can connect with mixxx | 21:47 |
holstein | try another client that you are more comfortable with and see that the server is up | 21:47 |
holstein | double check your settings.. etc | 21:47 |
kidx | but mixxx freezes when i use certain stuff | 21:47 |
kidx | so renders that useless | 21:47 |
holstein | not really.. you can troubleshoot it as well, if you like | 21:48 |
holstein | you are determining its "useless" | 21:48 |
kidx | no | 21:50 |
kidx | what i am saying is i cant connect to my server but ok | 21:50 |
zequence | The guy behind qjackctl (not jack itself though), and a bunch of other really common linux audio apps http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/ | 21:50 |
kidx | mixx can connect | 21:50 |
kidx | but it freezes on eer alsa device | 21:50 |
holstein | kidx: ok. and you have removed the settings and double checked the credentials? | 21:51 |
kidx | butt may be my last option | 21:51 |
holstein | kidx: i suggested you try BUTT *first* as a troubleshooting setp | 21:51 |
holstein | step* | 21:51 |
holstein | not a replacement.. | 21:51 |
holstein | exit | 21:54 |
zequence | holstein: ERROR: this is not a bash login session | 21:55 |
zequence | sorry, just jerking around | 21:55 |
holstein | does not compute ;) | 21:56 |
kidx | well i cant even get anything to worl through mixxx | 22:13 |
kidx | just keeps freexing | 22:13 |
holstein | kidx: so, you are assuming the client is the issue, then | 22:13 |
kidx | no | 22:13 |
holstein | kidx: you'll want to confirm the issue is not server side somehow | 22:14 |
kidx | i dont know | 22:14 |
holstein | kidx: correct.. you dont konw, so you'll want to confirm.. so you do know | 22:14 |
kidx | i was just on the server with IDJC | 22:14 |
kidx | but when i connec tto the server the audio goes messed up and hangs like a buzzer and freezed and crashes | 22:14 |
holstein | kidx: then, relax the settings | 22:14 |
kidx | i tihnk it is teh idjc settings | 22:15 |
kidx | theya re not mayching teh server sets | 22:15 |
holstein | kidx: thats a nice place to start then.. | 22:15 |
kidx | there for a glitch | 22:15 |
holstein | i would also relax my JACK settings, since, latency is not likely an issue | 22:15 |
kidx | i also am using shoucast 1 | 22:16 |
kidx | not 2 | 22:16 |
kidx | so i dont thnk i can use IDJC for that | 22:16 |
holstein | kidx: dont think at all. look it up and confirm | 22:16 |
kidx | look where | 22:16 |
holstein | kidx: i setup a local icecast server to test with, to remove things fromt equation | 22:16 |
kidx | IDJC has nothing on it | 22:16 |
kidx | there is one site that i dont understadn totally | 22:17 |
kidx | thats the official site | 22:17 |
kidx | connection to server one has failed | 22:20 |
kidx | weird | 22:20 |
kidx | love the crash | 22:25 |
holstein | the crash? | 22:26 |
holstein | have you relaxed your JACK settings? and the stream settings? | 22:27 |
schultza | Where do I ask about setting up virtual surround sound volumes on a usb digital device? Ubuntu is reporting two devices on USB audio. Digital and Stereo as seperate devices which is correct. But on the digital, I still only get Left and Right channels only. | 22:29 |
holstein | ideally, you would ask the manufacturer.. but, you could try an alsa support avenue... otherwise, i just use pavucontrol or alsamixer.. the usual tools | 22:30 |
holstein | !audio | 22:30 |
ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 22:30 |
schultza | alsamixer doesnt show the other channels i need to change volumes on | 22:30 |
schultza | the manufacturer (logitech) doesnt do linux drivers. | 22:31 |
holstein | schultza: and, it may never show them, since you were not promised it would in linux | 22:31 |
holstein | schultza: if the drivers that alsa is doing it best to offer you are not working.. | 22:31 |
schultza | well, heres what I did so far. I set the channels to 8 (7.1 virtual surround for this device) and it started playing on all channels, just the volumes are really low on the other channels. so i knwo it can do it. | 22:32 |
schultza | its the channels i need to change volume on, but the normal software isnt allowing me to target those specifically | 22:33 |
holstein | schultza: sure.. and it may never do that.. have you tried an alsa support venue? | 22:34 |
holstein | schultza: you can also try main #ubuntu | 22:34 |
schultza | they sent me here, holstein | 22:34 |
schultza | and no, i havent tried alsa support venue. | 22:34 |
holstein | schultza: "they"? | 22:35 |
schultza | #ubuntu | 22:35 |
holstein | schultza: you can go back there if you like, and ask the question about surround support.. which is not ubuntustuduio specific | 22:35 |
holstein | schultza: but, the "best" is going to be alsa.. or the manufacturer | 22:36 |
schultza | in #alsa? or the website? | 22:36 |
holstein | schultza: whever will work | 22:38 |
schultza | k. thnx | 22:38 |
holstein | schultza: its challenging, because youare asking folks who are not allowed or encouraged to help you by the folks who *can* ideally help you | 22:38 |
holstein | schultza: i would look for someone with the hardware and ask | 22:38 |
schultza | hmm... then logitech et al are idiots. | 22:38 |
holstein | well, they didint promise you linux support | 22:39 |
schultza | i know.. .was curious. :) but roccat seems to have linux support. based on sound card support for true 5.1 surround sound. | 22:40 |
holstein | i have been doing that.. just returning/selling or giving away things that done have the support for the operating system im using | 22:41 |
holstein | otherwise, its just challenging, and you are repsonsible for all support | 22:41 |
schultza | hmm.. i may have to do this... http://www.rpgameplace.de/blog/index.php?/archives/25-Virtual-Surround-for-stereo-headphones-with-ALSA.html | 22:50 |
schultza | :) | 22:51 |
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