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combinatoricis anyone interested in working on adding a hibernate function to Ubuntu Studio?00:35
combinatoricI can get it to work from the command line but it would be nice for it to be included on the shut down options00:35
fibz_studio has hibernate, it is disabled by default untill you test to ensure it works on your hardware00:36
combinatoricok. I run sudo pm hibernate and it works00:36
combinatoricbut when I turn on my computer it loads into my User Account, not into the main start page00:36
combinatoricwhat's the best way to enable it?00:38
fibz_sorry, i've been googleing this whole time.  i've beenhaving trouble finding even the most simple things in search engines lately... heres one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t00:42
combinatoriccool I will check it out. thanks00:54
butchohi01:21
fibz_did you need help with something?01:27
potentialHello, I would like to ask a question that perhaps don't have much to do with Ubuntu Studio itself that much.02:57
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vadimkolchevhi all. how can I convert flv to 3gp easily? didn't do anything of it in linux08:54
Patero-nghello09:14
Patero-ngI'd like to talk about security in ubuntu09:14
cfhowlettPatero-ng, general security discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic or an actual solveable problem09:18
cfhowlett?09:19
Patero-ngI'd like to know if timming works09:27
guest-03CRQ3buenas al personal15:37
kidxhello how do I set up IDJC20:35
kidxany one got a english video link?20:35
holsteinvideo?20:52
holsteinkidx: you can just install and run it20:52
holstein!proaudio20:52
ubottuFor information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro20:52
holsteinyou'll likely want to use it with jack..20:52
holsteinyou can ask in #opensourcemusicians ..but it pretty much click/configure and run20:52
kidxI am new to this20:53
kidxi like what i see but all the sound is not right20:53
holsteinkidx: maybe you can find an easier way to do what you are doing20:53
kidxI could if i had a tutorial20:53
holsteinkidx: sure.. for what?20:53
kidxbut none are in english20:53
kidxI learn by video20:53
holsteinkidx: the issue with tutorials are, your hardware is differet20:53
holsteinkidx: there is no one with a video on your specific hardware about runing JACK20:54
kidxno20:54
zequencekidx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzyjDeEAw420:54
kidxii dont car for that20:54
kidxi just need to learn how to use it20:54
kidxlet along driver stuff20:54
holsteinkidx: i used it with JACK.. it requires JACK, AFAIK20:55
zequencejack is a pro audio server, which you need to run manually20:55
zequenceIt's not a big deal to learn20:55
zequenceTakes five minutes20:55
kidxso i cant talk on skpye20:55
kidxand talk to my buddys20:55
zequencekidx: Sure you caqn20:56
kidxreminds me of ASIO20:56
zequencekidx: if you're on Ubuntu Studio, that is20:56
kidxbut for linux20:56
kidxand better coded20:56
kidxi am20:56
zequencesort of, though ASIO is about drivers, not an audio server20:56
zequencejack is an audio server, which uses ALSA drivers20:56
zequenceyou can read more about that in the link that holstein provided you with20:57
kidxoh so whats the big differ besides it being server what the advantages20:57
kidxi guess better all aroud preformance no blue screens of death20:57
zequenceit's a system which allows any application that supports jack to connect to any other jack application20:57
zequenceso, a lot better than ASIO20:58
kidxok20:58
kidxwell ill look at the video20:58
kidxill look aroud for jack tutorials20:58
kidxand come back if i need to20:58
kidxmy goal is to learn IDJC20:58
zequencekidx: On UBuntu Studio, after starting jack, if you want to hear desktop audio, just set desktop audio to use jack as output20:58
kidxand do my radio20:58
holsteinkidx: its really qutie simple.. JACK is the challenging bit20:58
holsteinkidx: you dont need either to do "radio"20:58
kidxhuh20:59
zequencekidx: Basically, you need to select the correct device, and click start. That's it20:59
kidxi am trying to use mixx20:59
holsteinkidx: you can, for example, run a simple streaming application, and use an external mixer to route your voice and music20:59
holsteinor, several machines20:59
holsteinthere are many ways to do "raiod"20:59
holsteinradio*20:59
kidxwell i need to learn this20:59
holsteinjack with idjc is just one way.. and it will work, but i wouldnt get too worried about it20:59
kidxi am so used to plug and pray on linux20:59
kidxI dont really lean nothing techinicall21:00
kidxsorry windows21:00
zequenceThe audio in linux is scattered into many systems. It hasn't been prioritized21:00
kidxi wanna learn better things21:00
zequenceBut, it works21:00
kidxsounds better than widnows for sure21:00
kidxso how do i exaclty connect to my server with shoutcast with IDJC21:01
zequenceon any OS you have to learn a few things to get going. Linux is easier in the mainstream part, but as soon as you step out of that, things can get a bit steeper21:01
zequenceStill, it's not that challenging21:02
kidxI learn from eacthing and doing less typing21:02
kidxwatching21:02
zequencekidx: Always start jack first. Make sure to select the correct device. Then start your jack application and set it up for your needs21:03
kidxjack is open21:05
zequenceyou mean, you started jack with qjackctl, or you opened qjackctl?21:05
kidxi just opened jack21:06
kidxQjackctl21:06
kidxi tihnk21:06
zequencejack is not qjackctl21:06
zequenceqjackctl is just a gui application to control jack21:06
zequencejack is a headless audio server, which can be controlled by numerous applications21:07
kidxso then qjackctl will do21:07
zequencein Setup, choose your audio device, under "Interface"21:08
zequenceThere are two arrows, use the one that points to the right21:08
zequenceYou should see stuff like hw:0, hw:1, with names attached21:08
zequenceInternal devices are usually called Intel something21:09
zequenceDon't select input and output separately, that will only confuse things21:09
zequenceusually, the internal device is listed at the top, which is the same as default, but that can change at each boot21:09
zequenceActually, newer qjackctl doesn't say hw:0, hw:1, it says things like hw:Intel21:10
zequenceThis is better, cause it means that the device you select will remain the same after each boot21:10
zequencekidx: any particular audio device you are using, or just your internal audio device?21:11
kidxjust internal21:11
kidxi see alot of stuff21:11
kidxin qjackctl21:11
zequencekidx: so, probably it's the first choice. I would be hw:Intel21:11
kidxwhat goes where lol21:11
kidxi need to set each program up21:12
zequencekidx: You don't need to know anything else at the moment. Just the device21:12
kidxi need to watch a video21:12
zequenceonce you selected the correct device, you start jack, and unless you need low latencies, you are good to go21:12
kidxi hear my song21:13
kidxwoot21:13
kidxlol21:13
kidxbut i need to get mic working21:13
holsteintest the mic independently.. JACK/linux wont "fix" the mic21:17
kidxit works21:20
kidxjust to get it going on the radio21:20
kidxi am trying to get ti connect to my server21:20
kidxand stuff21:20
holsteinyou route it in JACK, and use idjc21:21
holsteini used BUTT to test my icecast server. to troubleshoot21:21
holsteinhttp://butt.sourceforge.net/21:22
holsteindidnt require JACK21:22
kidxsounds nicer21:22
kidxjust use a medai player21:22
kidxlol21:22
holsteini also just use BUTT on a machine, and routed my mic in with hardware21:22
holsteini also used a few different machines with analog connections21:23
kidxhow you use mic21:23
kidxlike to talk21:23
holsteinkidx: above are a few ways i did21:23
holsteinkidx: you can connect with hardware, if you have such hardware.. and use idjc to route it, or use JACK.. or other ways21:23
kidxwow21:24
zequenceConnections in qjackctl?21:24
kidxthe sounds on this are 100000000000000000 better than sam broadcaster21:24
zequenceI haven't used that applications myself21:24
kidxi want IDJC working21:24
holsteinthe sound should be whatever you have it configured as21:24
kidxi am not gona stop till i figure this out21:24
zequencein qjackctl you have "Connect" in which you can connect applications and your audio hardware anyway you like21:25
zequenceThough, you might need to raise the volume for your mic using a mixer21:25
kidxi just need my mic fixed21:25
zequenceThe desktop audio (pulseaudio) mixer might do, but if not, use an alsa mixer21:26
kidxand route skype and fix every thing21:26
kidxthen i am happy21:26
kidxand broadcast to the world21:26
holsteinkidx: skype?21:26
zequenceyou can't route skype in itself, but you can route all desktop audio to jack21:26
holsteinskype is not required for this21:26
kidxi wanna get skype audio on my cast21:26
holsteini used an icecast server21:26
zequencein the desktop audio mixer (settings) set output to jack21:26
holsteinkidx: you can always use a seperate machine and do analog connections from a box running skype21:27
zequenceWhen using jack, desktop audio will no longer be connected to your hardware21:28
zequence(this is if you have the pulseaudio-jack-module installed, which you have)21:28
zequence..otherwise too, sorry, but with this module you can connect desktop audio to jack21:28
zequenceIn a sence, desktop audio becomes like a jack application21:28
zequenceSo, in order to connect to your hardware, you need to set desktop audio input and output to use jack21:29
zequencejack then connects to your hardware21:29
kidxthis is frustrating now21:34
kidxi had it right now i messed it up21:34
kidxi am trying to get it to work rioght21:35
kidxhow i go online21:40
holsteinkidx: are you asking how to get online?21:41
holsteinkidx: on the internet? this chat is on the internet..21:41
kidxno21:42
kidxhow do i cast my radio21:42
kidxits not connecting21:42
kidxlol21:42
holsteinkidx: as i said above, i use butt to troubleshoot21:43
holsteinkidx: i used it to connect to a known good server that my friends were using that i knew could be connected to21:43
holsteinthen, i used BUTT, to remove JACK configs from the equation21:43
holsteinfrom there, i went to using the same settings in idjc, and eventually went to something else21:44
kidxsetting aint the issue i hear it21:45
kidxmy issue is IDJC wont connect21:45
holsteinkidx: sure.. but why?21:45
holsteinkidx: is it client or server side21:45
holsteinkidx: playback is irrelevant.. the connection is what im suggestion you troubleshoot21:46
kidxi dont care about play back21:46
holsteinkidx: sure21:46
kidxi care avbout connecting to y server21:46
holsteinkidx: and i understant your furstrations.. but, what you are saying is, you are not connecting to the server21:46
kidxif i cant connect to my server then radio is erelevetn21:46
holsteinkidx: and im suggestion troubleshooting techniques21:46
holsteinkidx: ping it.. try another server with your client that is "known good"21:47
kidxyes but i cant get the server to connect21:47
kidxi can connect with mixxx21:47
holsteintry another client that you are more comfortable with and see that the server is up21:47
holsteindouble check your settings.. etc21:47
kidxbut mixxx freezes when i use certain stuff21:47
kidxso  renders that useless21:47
holsteinnot really.. you can troubleshoot it as well, if you like21:48
holsteinyou are determining its "useless"21:48
kidxno21:50
kidxwhat i am saying is i cant connect to my server but ok21:50
zequenceThe guy behind qjackctl (not jack itself though), and a bunch of other really common linux audio apps http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/21:50
kidxmixx can connect21:50
kidxbut it freezes on eer alsa device21:50
holsteinkidx: ok. and you have removed the settings and double checked the credentials?21:51
kidxbutt may be my last option21:51
holsteinkidx:  i suggested you try BUTT *first* as a troubleshooting setp21:51
holsteinstep*21:51
holsteinnot a replacement..21:51
holsteinexit21:54
zequenceholstein: ERROR: this is not a bash login session21:55
zequencesorry, just jerking around21:55
holsteindoes not compute ;)21:56
kidxwell i cant even get anything to worl through mixxx22:13
kidxjust keeps freexing22:13
holsteinkidx: so, you are assuming the client is the issue, then22:13
kidxno22:13
holsteinkidx: you'll want to confirm the issue is not server side somehow22:14
kidxi dont know22:14
holsteinkidx: correct.. you dont konw, so you'll want to confirm.. so you do know22:14
kidxi was just on the server with IDJC22:14
kidxbut when i connec tto the server the audio goes messed up and hangs like a buzzer and freezed and crashes22:14
holsteinkidx: then, relax the settings22:14
kidxi tihnk it is teh idjc settings22:15
kidxtheya re not mayching teh server sets22:15
holsteinkidx: thats a nice place to start then..22:15
kidxthere for a glitch22:15
holsteini would also relax my JACK settings, since, latency is not likely an issue22:15
kidxi also am using shoucast 122:16
kidxnot 222:16
kidxso i dont thnk i can use IDJC for that22:16
holsteinkidx: dont think at all. look it up and confirm22:16
kidxlook where22:16
holsteinkidx: i setup a local icecast server to test with, to remove things fromt equation22:16
kidxIDJC has nothing on it22:16
kidxthere is one site that i dont understadn totally22:17
kidxthats the official site22:17
kidxconnection to server one has failed22:20
kidxweird22:20
kidxlove the crash22:25
holsteinthe crash?22:26
holsteinhave you relaxed your JACK settings? and the stream settings?22:27
schultzaWhere do I ask about setting up virtual surround sound volumes on a usb digital device? Ubuntu is reporting two devices on USB audio. Digital and Stereo as seperate devices which is correct. But on the digital, I still only get Left and Right channels only.22:29
holsteinideally, you would ask the manufacturer.. but, you could try an alsa support avenue... otherwise, i just use pavucontrol or alsamixer.. the usual tools22:30
holstein!audio22:30
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.22:30
schultzaalsamixer doesnt show the other channels i need to change volumes on22:30
schultzathe manufacturer (logitech) doesnt do linux drivers.22:31
holsteinschultza: and, it may never show them, since you were not promised it would in linux22:31
holsteinschultza: if the drivers that alsa is doing it best to offer you are not working..22:31
schultzawell, heres what I did so far. I set the channels to 8 (7.1 virtual surround for this device) and it started playing on all channels, just the volumes are really low on the other channels. so i knwo it can do it.22:32
schultzaits the channels i need to change volume on, but the normal software isnt allowing me to target those specifically22:33
holsteinschultza: sure.. and it may never do that.. have you tried an alsa support venue?22:34
holsteinschultza: you can also try main #ubuntu22:34
schultzathey sent me here, holstein22:34
schultzaand no, i havent tried alsa support venue.22:34
holsteinschultza: "they"?22:35
schultza#ubuntu22:35
holsteinschultza: you can go back there if you like, and ask the question about surround support.. which is not ubuntustuduio specific22:35
holsteinschultza: but, the "best" is going to be alsa.. or the manufacturer22:36
schultzain #alsa? or the website?22:36
holsteinschultza: whever will work22:38
schultzak. thnx22:38
holsteinschultza: its challenging, because youare asking folks who are not allowed or encouraged to help you by the folks who *can* ideally help you22:38
holsteinschultza: i would look for someone with the hardware and ask22:38
schultzahmm... then logitech et al are idiots.22:38
holsteinwell, they didint promise you linux support22:39
schultzai know.. .was curious. :) but roccat seems to have linux support. based on sound card support for true 5.1 surround sound.22:40
holsteini have been doing that.. just returning/selling or giving away things that done have the support for the operating system im using22:41
holsteinotherwise, its just challenging, and you are repsonsible for all support22:41
schultzahmm.. i may have to do this... http://www.rpgameplace.de/blog/index.php?/archives/25-Virtual-Surround-for-stereo-headphones-with-ALSA.html22:50
schultza:)22:51

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