[00:35] <combinatoric> is anyone interested in working on adding a hibernate function to Ubuntu Studio?
[00:35] <combinatoric> I can get it to work from the command line but it would be nice for it to be included on the shut down options
[00:36] <fibz_> studio has hibernate, it is disabled by default untill you test to ensure it works on your hardware
[00:36] <combinatoric> ok. I run sudo pm hibernate and it works
[00:36] <combinatoric> but when I turn on my computer it loads into my User Account, not into the main start page
[00:38] <combinatoric> what's the best way to enable it?
[00:42] <fibz_> sorry, i've been googleing this whole time.  i've beenhaving trouble finding even the most simple things in search engines lately... heres one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t
[00:54] <combinatoric> cool I will check it out. thanks
[01:21] <butcho> hi
[01:27] <fibz_> did you need help with something?
[02:57] <potential> Hello, I would like to ask a question that perhaps don't have much to do with Ubuntu Studio itself that much.
[08:54] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I convert flv to 3gp easily? didn't do anything of it in linux
[09:14] <Patero-ng> hello
[09:14] <Patero-ng> I'd like to talk about security in ubuntu
[09:18] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng, general security discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic or an actual solveable problem
[09:19] <cfhowlett> ?
[09:27] <Patero-ng> I'd like to know if timming works
[15:37] <guest-03CRQ3> buenas al personal
[20:35] <kidx> hello how do I set up IDJC
[20:35] <kidx> any one got a english video link?
[20:52] <holstein> video?
[20:52] <holstein> kidx: you can just install and run it
[20:52] <holstein> !proaudio
[20:52] <holstein> you'll likely want to use it with jack..
[20:52] <holstein> you can ask in #opensourcemusicians ..but it pretty much click/configure and run
[20:53] <kidx> I am new to this
[20:53] <kidx> i like what i see but all the sound is not right
[20:53] <holstein> kidx: maybe you can find an easier way to do what you are doing
[20:53] <kidx> I could if i had a tutorial
[20:53] <holstein> kidx: sure.. for what?
[20:53] <kidx> but none are in english
[20:53] <kidx> I learn by video
[20:53] <holstein> kidx: the issue with tutorials are, your hardware is differet
[20:54] <holstein> kidx: there is no one with a video on your specific hardware about runing JACK
[20:54] <kidx> no
[20:54] <zequence> kidx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzyjDeEAw4
[20:54] <kidx> ii dont car for that
[20:54] <kidx> i just need to learn how to use it
[20:54] <kidx> let along driver stuff
[20:55] <holstein> kidx: i used it with JACK.. it requires JACK, AFAIK
[20:55] <zequence> jack is a pro audio server, which you need to run manually
[20:55] <zequence> It's not a big deal to learn
[20:55] <zequence> Takes five minutes
[20:55] <kidx> so i cant talk on skpye
[20:55] <kidx> and talk to my buddys
[20:56] <zequence> kidx: Sure you caqn
[20:56] <kidx> reminds me of ASIO
[20:56] <zequence> kidx: if you're on Ubuntu Studio, that is
[20:56] <kidx> but for linux
[20:56] <kidx> and better coded
[20:56] <kidx> i am
[20:56] <zequence> sort of, though ASIO is about drivers, not an audio server
[20:56] <zequence> jack is an audio server, which uses ALSA drivers
[20:57] <zequence> you can read more about that in the link that holstein provided you with
[20:57] <kidx> oh so whats the big differ besides it being server what the advantages
[20:57] <kidx> i guess better all aroud preformance no blue screens of death
[20:57] <zequence> it's a system which allows any application that supports jack to connect to any other jack application
[20:58] <zequence> so, a lot better than ASIO
[20:58] <kidx> ok
[20:58] <kidx> well ill look at the video
[20:58] <kidx> ill look aroud for jack tutorials
[20:58] <kidx> and come back if i need to
[20:58] <kidx> my goal is to learn IDJC
[20:58] <zequence> kidx: On UBuntu Studio, after starting jack, if you want to hear desktop audio, just set desktop audio to use jack as output
[20:58] <kidx> and do my radio
[20:58] <holstein> kidx: its really qutie simple.. JACK is the challenging bit
[20:58] <holstein> kidx: you dont need either to do "radio"
[20:59] <kidx> huh
[20:59] <zequence> kidx: Basically, you need to select the correct device, and click start. That's it
[20:59] <kidx> i am trying to use mixx
[20:59] <holstein> kidx: you can, for example, run a simple streaming application, and use an external mixer to route your voice and music
[20:59] <holstein> or, several machines
[20:59] <holstein> there are many ways to do "raiod"
[20:59] <holstein> radio*
[20:59] <kidx> well i need to learn this
[20:59] <holstein> jack with idjc is just one way.. and it will work, but i wouldnt get too worried about it
[20:59] <kidx> i am so used to plug and pray on linux
[21:00] <kidx> I dont really lean nothing techinicall
[21:00] <kidx> sorry windows
[21:00] <zequence> The audio in linux is scattered into many systems. It hasn't been prioritized
[21:00] <kidx> i wanna learn better things
[21:00] <zequence> But, it works
[21:00] <kidx> sounds better than widnows for sure
[21:01] <kidx> so how do i exaclty connect to my server with shoutcast with IDJC
[21:01] <zequence> on any OS you have to learn a few things to get going. Linux is easier in the mainstream part, but as soon as you step out of that, things can get a bit steeper
[21:02] <zequence> Still, it's not that challenging
[21:02] <kidx> I learn from eacthing and doing less typing
[21:02] <kidx> watching
[21:03] <zequence> kidx: Always start jack first. Make sure to select the correct device. Then start your jack application and set it up for your needs
[21:05] <kidx> jack is open
[21:05] <zequence> you mean, you started jack with qjackctl, or you opened qjackctl?
[21:06] <kidx> i just opened jack
[21:06] <kidx> Qjackctl
[21:06] <kidx> i tihnk
[21:06] <zequence> jack is not qjackctl
[21:06] <zequence> qjackctl is just a gui application to control jack
[21:07] <zequence> jack is a headless audio server, which can be controlled by numerous applications
[21:07] <kidx> so then qjackctl will do
[21:08] <zequence> in Setup, choose your audio device, under "Interface"
[21:08] <zequence> There are two arrows, use the one that points to the right
[21:08] <zequence> You should see stuff like hw:0, hw:1, with names attached
[21:09] <zequence> Internal devices are usually called Intel something
[21:09] <zequence> Don't select input and output separately, that will only confuse things
[21:09] <zequence> usually, the internal device is listed at the top, which is the same as default, but that can change at each boot
[21:10] <zequence> Actually, newer qjackctl doesn't say hw:0, hw:1, it says things like hw:Intel
[21:10] <zequence> This is better, cause it means that the device you select will remain the same after each boot
[21:11] <zequence> kidx: any particular audio device you are using, or just your internal audio device?
[21:11] <kidx> just internal
[21:11] <kidx> i see alot of stuff
[21:11] <kidx> in qjackctl
[21:11] <zequence> kidx: so, probably it's the first choice. I would be hw:Intel
[21:11] <kidx> what goes where lol
[21:12] <kidx> i need to set each program up
[21:12] <zequence> kidx: You don't need to know anything else at the moment. Just the device
[21:12] <kidx> i need to watch a video
[21:12] <zequence> once you selected the correct device, you start jack, and unless you need low latencies, you are good to go
[21:13] <kidx> i hear my song
[21:13] <kidx> woot
[21:13] <kidx> lol
[21:13] <kidx> but i need to get mic working
[21:17] <holstein> test the mic independently.. JACK/linux wont "fix" the mic
[21:20] <kidx> it works
[21:20] <kidx> just to get it going on the radio
[21:20] <kidx> i am trying to get ti connect to my server
[21:20] <kidx> and stuff
[21:21] <holstein> you route it in JACK, and use idjc
[21:21] <holstein> i used BUTT to test my icecast server. to troubleshoot
[21:22] <holstein> http://butt.sourceforge.net/
[21:22] <holstein> didnt require JACK
[21:22] <kidx> sounds nicer
[21:22] <kidx> just use a medai player
[21:22] <kidx> lol
[21:22] <holstein> i also just use BUTT on a machine, and routed my mic in with hardware
[21:23] <holstein> i also used a few different machines with analog connections
[21:23] <kidx> how you use mic
[21:23] <kidx> like to talk
[21:23] <holstein> kidx: above are a few ways i did
[21:23] <holstein> kidx: you can connect with hardware, if you have such hardware.. and use idjc to route it, or use JACK.. or other ways
[21:24] <kidx> wow
[21:24] <zequence> Connections in qjackctl?
[21:24] <kidx> the sounds on this are 100000000000000000 better than sam broadcaster
[21:24] <zequence> I haven't used that applications myself
[21:24] <kidx> i want IDJC working
[21:24] <holstein> the sound should be whatever you have it configured as
[21:24] <kidx> i am not gona stop till i figure this out
[21:25] <zequence> in qjackctl you have "Connect" in which you can connect applications and your audio hardware anyway you like
[21:25] <zequence> Though, you might need to raise the volume for your mic using a mixer
[21:25] <kidx> i just need my mic fixed
[21:26] <zequence> The desktop audio (pulseaudio) mixer might do, but if not, use an alsa mixer
[21:26] <kidx> and route skype and fix every thing
[21:26] <kidx> then i am happy
[21:26] <kidx> and broadcast to the world
[21:26] <holstein> kidx: skype?
[21:26] <zequence> you can't route skype in itself, but you can route all desktop audio to jack
[21:26] <holstein> skype is not required for this
[21:26] <kidx> i wanna get skype audio on my cast
[21:26] <holstein> i used an icecast server
[21:26] <zequence> in the desktop audio mixer (settings) set output to jack
[21:27] <holstein> kidx: you can always use a seperate machine and do analog connections from a box running skype
[21:28] <zequence> When using jack, desktop audio will no longer be connected to your hardware
[21:28] <zequence> (this is if you have the pulseaudio-jack-module installed, which you have)
[21:28] <zequence> ..otherwise too, sorry, but with this module you can connect desktop audio to jack
[21:28] <zequence> In a sence, desktop audio becomes like a jack application
[21:29] <zequence> So, in order to connect to your hardware, you need to set desktop audio input and output to use jack
[21:29] <zequence> jack then connects to your hardware
[21:34] <kidx> this is frustrating now
[21:34] <kidx> i had it right now i messed it up
[21:35] <kidx> i am trying to get it to work rioght
[21:40] <kidx> how i go online
[21:41] <holstein> kidx: are you asking how to get online?
[21:41] <holstein> kidx: on the internet? this chat is on the internet..
[21:42] <kidx> no
[21:42] <kidx> how do i cast my radio
[21:42] <kidx> its not connecting
[21:42] <kidx> lol
[21:43] <holstein> kidx: as i said above, i use butt to troubleshoot
[21:43] <holstein> kidx: i used it to connect to a known good server that my friends were using that i knew could be connected to
[21:43] <holstein> then, i used BUTT, to remove JACK configs from the equation
[21:44] <holstein> from there, i went to using the same settings in idjc, and eventually went to something else
[21:45] <kidx> setting aint the issue i hear it
[21:45] <kidx> my issue is IDJC wont connect
[21:45] <holstein> kidx: sure.. but why?
[21:45] <holstein> kidx: is it client or server side
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: playback is irrelevant.. the connection is what im suggestion you troubleshoot
[21:46] <kidx> i dont care about play back
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: sure
[21:46] <kidx> i care avbout connecting to y server
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: and i understant your furstrations.. but, what you are saying is, you are not connecting to the server
[21:46] <kidx> if i cant connect to my server then radio is erelevetn
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: and im suggestion troubleshooting techniques
[21:47] <holstein> kidx: ping it.. try another server with your client that is "known good"
[21:47] <kidx> yes but i cant get the server to connect
[21:47] <kidx> i can connect with mixxx
[21:47] <holstein> try another client that you are more comfortable with and see that the server is up
[21:47] <holstein> double check your settings.. etc
[21:47] <kidx> but mixxx freezes when i use certain stuff
[21:47] <kidx> so  renders that useless
[21:48] <holstein> not really.. you can troubleshoot it as well, if you like
[21:48] <holstein> you are determining its "useless"
[21:50] <kidx> no
[21:50] <kidx> what i am saying is i cant connect to my server but ok
[21:50] <zequence> The guy behind qjackctl (not jack itself though), and a bunch of other really common linux audio apps http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/
[21:50] <kidx> mixx can connect
[21:50] <kidx> but it freezes on eer alsa device
[21:51] <holstein> kidx: ok. and you have removed the settings and double checked the credentials?
[21:51] <kidx> butt may be my last option
[21:51] <holstein> kidx:  i suggested you try BUTT *first* as a troubleshooting setp
[21:51] <holstein> step*
[21:51] <holstein> not a replacement..
[21:54] <holstein> exit
[21:55] <zequence> holstein: ERROR: this is not a bash login session
[21:55] <zequence> sorry, just jerking around
[21:56] <holstein> does not compute ;)
[22:13] <kidx> well i cant even get anything to worl through mixxx
[22:13] <kidx> just keeps freexing
[22:13] <holstein> kidx: so, you are assuming the client is the issue, then
[22:13] <kidx> no
[22:14] <holstein> kidx: you'll want to confirm the issue is not server side somehow
[22:14] <kidx> i dont know
[22:14] <holstein> kidx: correct.. you dont konw, so you'll want to confirm.. so you do know
[22:14] <kidx> i was just on the server with IDJC
[22:14] <kidx> but when i connec tto the server the audio goes messed up and hangs like a buzzer and freezed and crashes
[22:14] <holstein> kidx: then, relax the settings
[22:15] <kidx> i tihnk it is teh idjc settings
[22:15] <kidx> theya re not mayching teh server sets
[22:15] <holstein> kidx: thats a nice place to start then..
[22:15] <kidx> there for a glitch
[22:15] <holstein> i would also relax my JACK settings, since, latency is not likely an issue
[22:16] <kidx> i also am using shoucast 1
[22:16] <kidx> not 2
[22:16] <kidx> so i dont thnk i can use IDJC for that
[22:16] <holstein> kidx: dont think at all. look it up and confirm
[22:16] <kidx> look where
[22:16] <holstein> kidx: i setup a local icecast server to test with, to remove things fromt equation
[22:16] <kidx> IDJC has nothing on it
[22:17] <kidx> there is one site that i dont understadn totally
[22:17] <kidx> thats the official site
[22:20] <kidx> connection to server one has failed
[22:20] <kidx> weird
[22:25] <kidx> love the crash
[22:26] <holstein> the crash?
[22:27] <holstein> have you relaxed your JACK settings? and the stream settings?
[22:29] <schultza> Where do I ask about setting up virtual surround sound volumes on a usb digital device? Ubuntu is reporting two devices on USB audio. Digital and Stereo as seperate devices which is correct. But on the digital, I still only get Left and Right channels only.
[22:30] <holstein> ideally, you would ask the manufacturer.. but, you could try an alsa support avenue... otherwise, i just use pavucontrol or alsamixer.. the usual tools
[22:30] <holstein> !audio
[22:30] <schultza> alsamixer doesnt show the other channels i need to change volumes on
[22:31] <schultza> the manufacturer (logitech) doesnt do linux drivers.
[22:31] <holstein> schultza: and, it may never show them, since you were not promised it would in linux
[22:31] <holstein> schultza: if the drivers that alsa is doing it best to offer you are not working..
[22:32] <schultza> well, heres what I did so far. I set the channels to 8 (7.1 virtual surround for this device) and it started playing on all channels, just the volumes are really low on the other channels. so i knwo it can do it.
[22:33] <schultza> its the channels i need to change volume on, but the normal software isnt allowing me to target those specifically
[22:34] <holstein> schultza: sure.. and it may never do that.. have you tried an alsa support venue?
[22:34] <holstein> schultza: you can also try main #ubuntu
[22:34] <schultza> they sent me here, holstein
[22:34] <schultza> and no, i havent tried alsa support venue.
[22:35] <holstein> schultza: "they"?
[22:35] <schultza> #ubuntu
[22:35] <holstein> schultza: you can go back there if you like, and ask the question about surround support.. which is not ubuntustuduio specific
[22:36] <holstein> schultza: but, the "best" is going to be alsa.. or the manufacturer
[22:36] <schultza> in #alsa? or the website?
[22:38] <holstein> schultza: whever will work
[22:38] <schultza> k. thnx
[22:38] <holstein> schultza: its challenging, because youare asking folks who are not allowed or encouraged to help you by the folks who *can* ideally help you
[22:38] <holstein> schultza: i would look for someone with the hardware and ask
[22:38] <schultza> hmm... then logitech et al are idiots.
[22:39] <holstein> well, they didint promise you linux support
[22:40] <schultza> i know.. .was curious. :) but roccat seems to have linux support. based on sound card support for true 5.1 surround sound.
[22:41] <holstein> i have been doing that.. just returning/selling or giving away things that done have the support for the operating system im using
[22:41] <holstein> otherwise, its just challenging, and you are repsonsible for all support
[22:50] <schultza> hmm.. i may have to do this... http://www.rpgameplace.de/blog/index.php?/archives/25-Virtual-Surround-for-stereo-headphones-with-ALSA.html
[22:51] <schultza> :)