[00:35] is anyone interested in working on adding a hibernate function to Ubuntu Studio? [00:35] I can get it to work from the command line but it would be nice for it to be included on the shut down options [00:36] studio has hibernate, it is disabled by default untill you test to ensure it works on your hardware [00:36] ok. I run sudo pm hibernate and it works [00:36] but when I turn on my computer it loads into my User Account, not into the main start page [00:38] what's the best way to enable it? [00:42] sorry, i've been googleing this whole time. i've beenhaving trouble finding even the most simple things in search engines lately... heres one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t [00:54] cool I will check it out. thanks [01:21] hi [01:27] did you need help with something? [02:57] Hello, I would like to ask a question that perhaps don't have much to do with Ubuntu Studio itself that much. === Toadnohyp is now known as Hypnotoad [08:54] hi all. how can I convert flv to 3gp easily? didn't do anything of it in linux [09:14] hello [09:14] I'd like to talk about security in ubuntu [09:18] Patero-ng, general security discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic or an actual solveable problem [09:19] ? [09:27] I'd like to know if timming works [15:37] buenas al personal [20:35] hello how do I set up IDJC [20:35] any one got a english video link? [20:52] video? [20:52] kidx: you can just install and run it [20:52] !proaudio [20:52] For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro [20:52] you'll likely want to use it with jack.. [20:52] you can ask in #opensourcemusicians ..but it pretty much click/configure and run [20:53] I am new to this [20:53] i like what i see but all the sound is not right [20:53] kidx: maybe you can find an easier way to do what you are doing [20:53] I could if i had a tutorial [20:53] kidx: sure.. for what? [20:53] but none are in english [20:53] I learn by video [20:53] kidx: the issue with tutorials are, your hardware is differet [20:54] kidx: there is no one with a video on your specific hardware about runing JACK [20:54] no [20:54] kidx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzyjDeEAw4 [20:54] ii dont car for that [20:54] i just need to learn how to use it [20:54] let along driver stuff [20:55] kidx: i used it with JACK.. it requires JACK, AFAIK [20:55] jack is a pro audio server, which you need to run manually [20:55] It's not a big deal to learn [20:55] Takes five minutes [20:55] so i cant talk on skpye [20:55] and talk to my buddys [20:56] kidx: Sure you caqn [20:56] reminds me of ASIO [20:56] kidx: if you're on Ubuntu Studio, that is [20:56] but for linux [20:56] and better coded [20:56] i am [20:56] sort of, though ASIO is about drivers, not an audio server [20:56] jack is an audio server, which uses ALSA drivers [20:57] you can read more about that in the link that holstein provided you with [20:57] oh so whats the big differ besides it being server what the advantages [20:57] i guess better all aroud preformance no blue screens of death [20:57] it's a system which allows any application that supports jack to connect to any other jack application [20:58] so, a lot better than ASIO [20:58] ok [20:58] well ill look at the video [20:58] ill look aroud for jack tutorials [20:58] and come back if i need to [20:58] my goal is to learn IDJC [20:58] kidx: On UBuntu Studio, after starting jack, if you want to hear desktop audio, just set desktop audio to use jack as output [20:58] and do my radio [20:58] kidx: its really qutie simple.. JACK is the challenging bit [20:58] kidx: you dont need either to do "radio" [20:59] huh [20:59] kidx: Basically, you need to select the correct device, and click start. That's it [20:59] i am trying to use mixx [20:59] kidx: you can, for example, run a simple streaming application, and use an external mixer to route your voice and music [20:59] or, several machines [20:59] there are many ways to do "raiod" [20:59] radio* [20:59] well i need to learn this [20:59] jack with idjc is just one way.. and it will work, but i wouldnt get too worried about it [20:59] i am so used to plug and pray on linux [21:00] I dont really lean nothing techinicall [21:00] sorry windows [21:00] The audio in linux is scattered into many systems. It hasn't been prioritized [21:00] i wanna learn better things [21:00] But, it works [21:00] sounds better than widnows for sure [21:01] so how do i exaclty connect to my server with shoutcast with IDJC [21:01] on any OS you have to learn a few things to get going. Linux is easier in the mainstream part, but as soon as you step out of that, things can get a bit steeper [21:02] Still, it's not that challenging [21:02] I learn from eacthing and doing less typing [21:02] watching [21:03] kidx: Always start jack first. Make sure to select the correct device. Then start your jack application and set it up for your needs [21:05] jack is open [21:05] you mean, you started jack with qjackctl, or you opened qjackctl? [21:06] i just opened jack [21:06] Qjackctl [21:06] i tihnk [21:06] jack is not qjackctl [21:06] qjackctl is just a gui application to control jack [21:07] jack is a headless audio server, which can be controlled by numerous applications [21:07] so then qjackctl will do [21:08] in Setup, choose your audio device, under "Interface" [21:08] There are two arrows, use the one that points to the right [21:08] You should see stuff like hw:0, hw:1, with names attached [21:09] Internal devices are usually called Intel something [21:09] Don't select input and output separately, that will only confuse things [21:09] usually, the internal device is listed at the top, which is the same as default, but that can change at each boot [21:10] Actually, newer qjackctl doesn't say hw:0, hw:1, it says things like hw:Intel [21:10] This is better, cause it means that the device you select will remain the same after each boot [21:11] kidx: any particular audio device you are using, or just your internal audio device? [21:11] just internal [21:11] i see alot of stuff [21:11] in qjackctl [21:11] kidx: so, probably it's the first choice. I would be hw:Intel [21:11] what goes where lol [21:12] i need to set each program up [21:12] kidx: You don't need to know anything else at the moment. Just the device [21:12] i need to watch a video [21:12] once you selected the correct device, you start jack, and unless you need low latencies, you are good to go [21:13] i hear my song [21:13] woot [21:13] lol [21:13] but i need to get mic working [21:17] test the mic independently.. JACK/linux wont "fix" the mic [21:20] it works [21:20] just to get it going on the radio [21:20] i am trying to get ti connect to my server [21:20] and stuff [21:21] you route it in JACK, and use idjc [21:21] i used BUTT to test my icecast server. to troubleshoot [21:22] http://butt.sourceforge.net/ [21:22] didnt require JACK [21:22] sounds nicer [21:22] just use a medai player [21:22] lol [21:22] i also just use BUTT on a machine, and routed my mic in with hardware [21:23] i also used a few different machines with analog connections [21:23] how you use mic [21:23] like to talk [21:23] kidx: above are a few ways i did [21:23] kidx: you can connect with hardware, if you have such hardware.. and use idjc to route it, or use JACK.. or other ways [21:24] wow [21:24] Connections in qjackctl? [21:24] the sounds on this are 100000000000000000 better than sam broadcaster [21:24] I haven't used that applications myself [21:24] i want IDJC working [21:24] the sound should be whatever you have it configured as [21:24] i am not gona stop till i figure this out [21:25] in qjackctl you have "Connect" in which you can connect applications and your audio hardware anyway you like [21:25] Though, you might need to raise the volume for your mic using a mixer [21:25] i just need my mic fixed [21:26] The desktop audio (pulseaudio) mixer might do, but if not, use an alsa mixer [21:26] and route skype and fix every thing [21:26] then i am happy [21:26] and broadcast to the world [21:26] kidx: skype? [21:26] you can't route skype in itself, but you can route all desktop audio to jack [21:26] skype is not required for this [21:26] i wanna get skype audio on my cast [21:26] i used an icecast server [21:26] in the desktop audio mixer (settings) set output to jack [21:27] kidx: you can always use a seperate machine and do analog connections from a box running skype [21:28] When using jack, desktop audio will no longer be connected to your hardware [21:28] (this is if you have the pulseaudio-jack-module installed, which you have) [21:28] ..otherwise too, sorry, but with this module you can connect desktop audio to jack [21:28] In a sence, desktop audio becomes like a jack application [21:29] So, in order to connect to your hardware, you need to set desktop audio input and output to use jack [21:29] jack then connects to your hardware [21:34] this is frustrating now [21:34] i had it right now i messed it up [21:35] i am trying to get it to work rioght [21:40] how i go online [21:41] kidx: are you asking how to get online? [21:41] kidx: on the internet? this chat is on the internet.. [21:42] no [21:42] how do i cast my radio [21:42] its not connecting [21:42] lol [21:43] kidx: as i said above, i use butt to troubleshoot [21:43] kidx: i used it to connect to a known good server that my friends were using that i knew could be connected to [21:43] then, i used BUTT, to remove JACK configs from the equation [21:44] from there, i went to using the same settings in idjc, and eventually went to something else [21:45] setting aint the issue i hear it [21:45] my issue is IDJC wont connect [21:45] kidx: sure.. but why? [21:45] kidx: is it client or server side [21:46] kidx: playback is irrelevant.. the connection is what im suggestion you troubleshoot [21:46] i dont care about play back [21:46] kidx: sure [21:46] i care avbout connecting to y server [21:46] kidx: and i understant your furstrations.. but, what you are saying is, you are not connecting to the server [21:46] if i cant connect to my server then radio is erelevetn [21:46] kidx: and im suggestion troubleshooting techniques [21:47] kidx: ping it.. try another server with your client that is "known good" [21:47] yes but i cant get the server to connect [21:47] i can connect with mixxx [21:47] try another client that you are more comfortable with and see that the server is up [21:47] double check your settings.. etc [21:47] but mixxx freezes when i use certain stuff [21:47] so renders that useless [21:48] not really.. you can troubleshoot it as well, if you like [21:48] you are determining its "useless" [21:50] no [21:50] what i am saying is i cant connect to my server but ok [21:50] The guy behind qjackctl (not jack itself though), and a bunch of other really common linux audio apps http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/ [21:50] mixx can connect [21:50] but it freezes on eer alsa device [21:51] kidx: ok. and you have removed the settings and double checked the credentials? [21:51] butt may be my last option [21:51] kidx: i suggested you try BUTT *first* as a troubleshooting setp [21:51] step* [21:51] not a replacement.. [21:54] exit [21:55] holstein: ERROR: this is not a bash login session [21:55] sorry, just jerking around [21:56] does not compute ;) [22:13] well i cant even get anything to worl through mixxx [22:13] just keeps freexing [22:13] kidx: so, you are assuming the client is the issue, then [22:13] no [22:14] kidx: you'll want to confirm the issue is not server side somehow [22:14] i dont know [22:14] kidx: correct.. you dont konw, so you'll want to confirm.. so you do know [22:14] i was just on the server with IDJC [22:14] but when i connec tto the server the audio goes messed up and hangs like a buzzer and freezed and crashes [22:14] kidx: then, relax the settings [22:15] i tihnk it is teh idjc settings [22:15] theya re not mayching teh server sets [22:15] kidx: thats a nice place to start then.. [22:15] there for a glitch [22:15] i would also relax my JACK settings, since, latency is not likely an issue [22:16] i also am using shoucast 1 [22:16] not 2 [22:16] so i dont thnk i can use IDJC for that [22:16] kidx: dont think at all. look it up and confirm [22:16] look where [22:16] kidx: i setup a local icecast server to test with, to remove things fromt equation [22:16] IDJC has nothing on it [22:17] there is one site that i dont understadn totally [22:17] thats the official site [22:20] connection to server one has failed [22:20] weird [22:25] love the crash [22:26] the crash? [22:27] have you relaxed your JACK settings? and the stream settings? [22:29] Where do I ask about setting up virtual surround sound volumes on a usb digital device? Ubuntu is reporting two devices on USB audio. Digital and Stereo as seperate devices which is correct. But on the digital, I still only get Left and Right channels only. [22:30] ideally, you would ask the manufacturer.. but, you could try an alsa support avenue... otherwise, i just use pavucontrol or alsamixer.. the usual tools [22:30] !audio [22:30] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [22:30] alsamixer doesnt show the other channels i need to change volumes on [22:31] the manufacturer (logitech) doesnt do linux drivers. [22:31] schultza: and, it may never show them, since you were not promised it would in linux [22:31] schultza: if the drivers that alsa is doing it best to offer you are not working.. [22:32] well, heres what I did so far. I set the channels to 8 (7.1 virtual surround for this device) and it started playing on all channels, just the volumes are really low on the other channels. so i knwo it can do it. [22:33] its the channels i need to change volume on, but the normal software isnt allowing me to target those specifically [22:34] schultza: sure.. and it may never do that.. have you tried an alsa support venue? [22:34] schultza: you can also try main #ubuntu [22:34] they sent me here, holstein [22:34] and no, i havent tried alsa support venue. [22:35] schultza: "they"? [22:35] #ubuntu [22:35] schultza: you can go back there if you like, and ask the question about surround support.. which is not ubuntustuduio specific [22:36] schultza: but, the "best" is going to be alsa.. or the manufacturer [22:36] in #alsa? or the website? [22:38] schultza: whever will work [22:38] k. thnx [22:38] schultza: its challenging, because youare asking folks who are not allowed or encouraged to help you by the folks who *can* ideally help you [22:38] schultza: i would look for someone with the hardware and ask [22:38] hmm... then logitech et al are idiots. [22:39] well, they didint promise you linux support [22:40] i know.. .was curious. :) but roccat seems to have linux support. based on sound card support for true 5.1 surround sound. [22:41] i have been doing that.. just returning/selling or giving away things that done have the support for the operating system im using [22:41] otherwise, its just challenging, and you are repsonsible for all support [22:50] hmm.. i may have to do this... http://www.rpgameplace.de/blog/index.php?/archives/25-Virtual-Surround-for-stereo-headphones-with-ALSA.html [22:51] :)