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derEremitHi all00:08
derEremitshould ubuntu webapps like http://developer.ubuntu.com/web/overview/00:08
derEremitstill work in trusty00:08
derEremiti get: Proxy: getUnityObject called with version 100:09
derEremitUncaught Error: not enough arguments00:09
derEremitin unity-api-page-proxy-builder-gen.js00:10
sarnoldpitti: are the trusty retracers alive and well? this bug report has been waiting for retracing for seven hours: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/128885200:30
ubottuError: launchpad bug 1288852 not found00:30
derEremitok, tested in firefox also, used to work, now i get the message if i would like to add integration but then nothing happens00:32
derEremithttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-chromium-extension/+bug/127712600:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1277126 in WebApps: unity-chromium-extensions "Latest chromium update breaks webapps integration" [Critical,Confirmed]00:35
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derEremitcan someone confirm that it's also broken in firefox on trusty00:54
dokoinfinity, is the chromium-browser autopkg test really still running, or could you override it?01:07
tewardThe MIR checklist points to liblua5.1 as bad...  Am I to assume that includes other non-Lua Lua compilers as well (like luajit), or no?01:53
RAOFteward: You're talking about the ngnix MIR? If so, it's that liblua5.1 isn't supported (liblua5.2 is). So if there is another Lua runtime in the supported seed that the ngnix lua module works against then that would be acceptable.02:04
tewardRAOF: you've avoided my actual questoin02:04
tewardif you've read the nginx MIR, you'd see sarnold already explained this02:04
tewardand that sarnold and infinity explained this to me in this channel even02:04
tewardyou've ignored my actual question, which is, does this also include other Lua interpreters not provided by libljuaX.Y (where X and Y are numbers)02:05
teward(such as libluajitX.Y)02:05
RAOFI'm still not sure what your question is, sorry.02:05
tewardthen i'll wait for sarnold02:05
tewardor, unless you want me to talk for a bit?02:06
teward(explain the background of this, really)02:06
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RAOFSure.02:06
tewardthe third-party Lua module is part of the non-main packages (nginx-extras).  It requires Lua 5.1, or an interpreter that speaks Lua 5.1.  The upstream for that module have already looked and said that it will not be able to build ever against 5.202:07
tewardand that they will not support 5.2 either02:07
tewardthey did suggest either static-linking against 5.1, or try something like LuaJIT instead02:07
tewardproblem is, I have no idea if LuaJIT is supported or not, nor if that conflicts as it too speaks 5.102:07
RAOFAh.02:08
tewardmy question is whether, IF this builds against libluajit-5.1-dev... would that be satisfactory02:08
tewardbecause the only other alternative is to drop the lua module02:08
teward(which won't exist in nginx-core, the package that would end up in main, anyways.)02:08
RAOFlibluajit-5.1-dev is also in universe, so ngnix couldn't build-depend on it.02:09
tewardthe moment of truth is right now, RAOF, i'm sbuild-ing this.02:09
tewardRAOF: then the MIR is permanently blocked and I may as well just reproduce a separate source package for nginx-core02:09
tewardbecause we'd *have* to drop Lua and everyone else will be... um...02:09
teward"extremely dissatisfied"02:09
* teward yawns02:10
tewardi should not be working on code at 9:10PM but meh02:10
RAOFHeh.02:10
tewardit looks like it builds either way, but meh02:10
RAOFWhy does the lua module not support the ~2 year old Lua 5.2 release? (/me doesn't have any real domain knowledge here)02:11
tewardRAOF: ask the upstream people02:11
tewardhttps://github.com/chaoslawful/lua-nginx-module/issues/34302:11
tewardRAOF: what I think could be a satisfactory solution is to drop the Lua module from the package, then burn the bridges behind us, as i'll still maintain the PPAs anyways02:12
tewardand I assume liblua5.1 will still exist in trusty even though it's not going to be supported in trusty?02:12
RAOFYeah, it's unlikely to be removed.02:13
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RAOFAlso, it sounds like Lua is a terrible choice for an embedded language? The language significantly changes between Lua 5.1 and Lua 5.2?!02:13
tewardthat's what sarnold and infinity said02:13
RAOF:)02:14
tewardRAOF: if it's unlikely to be removed from Trusty, then that should still suffice, the people who need Lua can go use the PPA version which I will continue to maintain anyways02:14
tewardwhile still satisfying the MIR requirements by dropping the lua module02:14
teward'course, i'd like sarnold and rbasak to voice their opinions on that solution02:15
RAOFteward: Sounds reasonable. You could also ask if libluajit is MIR-able.02:15
RAOFteward: Since it seems like that's actively maintained upstream?02:16
tewardRAOF: that's outside my purview :/02:16
RAOFWhich would be one of the problems with liblua5.1; last release seems to be in 2012.02:16
tewardRAOF: my... preference... would be to just maintain things that DON'T require additional maintenance02:17
tewardbut that's Debian's decision to add it02:17
tewardnot mine02:17
RAOFteward: Well, you should mention that it builds (and runs?) against libluajit-5.1-dev, and that libluajit is maintained upstream.02:17
tewardRAOF: all testing in due time02:18
tewardit's still building in sbuild (i386; amd64)02:18
* teward doesn't test-build for other architectures02:18
tewardit *looks* like it builds02:18
tewardbut i don't use the lua module so meh02:18
tewardthe question is if it starts02:18
tewardif it does without SEGV then meh02:18
tewardhmm, where the heck did my trusty VM go02:19
tewardRAOF: any idea where i can get a trusty image?02:22
teward:/02:22
tewardmy VM exploded itself :/02:22
RAOFteward: The autopkgtest build scripts pull a cloud VM image...02:22
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pittiGood morning05:46
Unit193Howdy.05:47
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fishorslangasek, so far i know pipeligt will add symlink in plugins directory and it uses NAPI interface07:56
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fishori can't say more, since i have no more idea then you. Everything i know, wine will start together with update manager if firefox was not previously started07:56
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fishorslangasek, hm... right now i can reproduce it only with empathy, not with update manager.09:36
dokojibel, pitti: need to get gcc-4.8 into trusty, chromium-browser autopkg test still running09:52
pittidoko, jibel: fixing the history files09:53
pittidoko: FYI, jibel is working on fixing this for good09:53
jibelpitti, done09:53
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dokopitti: and the other thing I'd like to see migrating is readline6, independent of the python3.4 autopkg test09:54
dokoand then starting the test rebuild09:54
tkamppeterAnyone with knowledge about Debian package download servers around?09:54
pittijibel: I edited trusty-proposed_amd64_chromium-browser.20140306-174838.state and results.history, that right?09:54
jibelpitti, it is09:55
pittidoko: right, the python3.4 failure looks like a problem with the new python3.4 itself, not due to libreadline09:55
xnoxtkamppeter: what are you after?09:56
pittijibel: can we forge this in the history file? the release team AFAIK can only override the python3.4 test itself, not just that test result for libreadline09:56
pittipython3.4 3.4~rc2-1ubuntu1 FAIL python3.4 3.4~rc2-1ubuntu109:57
pittipython3.4 3.4~rc2-1ubuntu1 FAIL python3.4 3.4~rc2-1ubuntu1 readline6 6.3-1ubuntu109:57
pittijibel: ^ i. e. set it to PASS in the second line, but keep the first?09:57
jibelpitti, 3661:python3.4 3.4~rc2-1ubuntu1 FAIL python3.4 3.4~rc2-1ubuntu1 readline6 6.3-1ubuntu109:57
jibelline 366109:57
pittijibel: I set l 3661 to PASS, keeping the FAIL for python3.4 itself09:58
pittidoko: ok, should be set; I'll check britney in ~ 30 mins09:58
jibelpitti, correct09:58
tkamppeterznox, at Epson they have .deb packages of printer drivers, for auto-download with apt-get. Now the guys are complaining that on their server are too may 404 errors (900000/day) and this is slowing down the server, the problem seems to happen with http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/op/stable/debian/dists/lsb3.2/main/i18n.09:58
dokothanks!09:58
pittierr, what, znox? is there an ynox as well, putting Dimitry into all three dimensions?09:59
tkamppeterxnox, ^^^09:59
pitti(TGIF!)09:59
xnoxtkamppeter: yeah, that's a known problem, so apt does query translation files of package data thus generating a tonne of 404s queries. I think on launchpad ppas it was suggested to short-circuit queries to i18n paths and return 404 to client on frontend without hiting the disk.10:01
xnoxtkamppeter: or on the repository side, generate empty files there (or some such) such that apt "caches" them and thus does not request/404 them all the time.10:02
xnoxmaybe wgrant can give better advice here.10:02
OdyXtkamppeter: the good solution to that is to release this as redistributable and let good packagers distribute that in the distibutions properly10:03
tkamppeterwgrant, hi10:04
OdyXtkamppeter: I'd not even request full source, just redistributability (for non-free)10:06
xnoxtkamppeter: wgrant is end-of-week by now, he is in Australia.10:07
OdyXtkamppeter: get Epson fix their license please: https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2012/12/msg00011.html10:09
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OdyX(if you're talkin to them)10:10
tkamppeterxnox, would it be enough to create an empty http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/op/stable/debian/dists/lsb3.2/main/i18n/Translation-en file?10:12
xnoxtkamppeter: i think it should be. to test mirror that repository to /var/www/html and try out against local apache at 127.0.0.1 and check the logs =/10:13
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tkamppeterxnox, I am trying with the OpenPrinting web server now, which was also missing this directory, and it seems only adding the empty i18n directory makes "sudo apt-get update" faster.10:17
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pittidoko: both propagated now10:23
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wgranttkamppeter, xnox: This really needs a fix in apt to not blindly try to download every possible translation.10:55
wgrantIt currently tries to fetch Translation-en.xz, then that 404s so it tries Translation-en.lzma, Translation-en.bz2, Translation-en.gz, Translation-en, then it finally gives up10:56
wgrantI don't know how to make it stop10:56
wgrantTranslation-* really should only have ever been looked at if they appeared in an index.10:56
tkamppeterwgrant, so for best server performance I should create empty Translation-en.xz in all i18n directories on the servers?10:58
wgranttkamppeter: Plus Translation-$LANG.xz for each possible client language :/10:59
wgrantIt's possible that apt will use TranslationIndex if it's there, but I believe it's deprecated.10:59
wgrantPossibly it'll now check if there's any Translation-* at all in Release?11:00
wgrantThat would seem like a reasonable thing to do in future, even if that's not the current behaviour.11:00
tkamppeterwgrant, I hope that this does not cause all deb servers on the world hanging in 404s most of the time.11:05
wgranttkamppeter: It causes serious delays on HTTPS apt repos, but for unencrypted HTTP it's not usually too bad.11:06
wgranthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/117104711:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1171047 in apt (Ubuntu) "update-manager times out checking for updates" [High,New]11:08
mwhudsonare the estimated 14.04.X point release dates listed somewhere?11:16
xnoxmwhudson: not that i see at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule11:17
mwhudsonright11:17
xnoxmwhudson: maybe it makes sense to have vUDS session to discuss it.11:18
mwhudsonthat might be overkill11:19
mwhudsonalso vuds is entirely inhumanely timed for me :)11:19
mwhudsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule has point releases every six months, starting the august after release11:19
tkamppeterwgrant, xnox, thank you very much.11:21
xnoxmwhudson: true, but it kind of depends on the .1 timing. Precise .1 was much longer than usual.11:23
xnoxmwhudson: imho lts point releases should be at .7/.1 cadence - half-way between .4/.10 cadence.11:24
LaneyCompared to Hardy it was, but it was broadly the same as Lucid11:25
mwhudsonxnox: ok11:25
xnoxLaney: hardy was a good release, i liked it a lot. =)11:26
Laneyit did have the best t-shirt11:27
jamespagemwhudson, I quite liked what the Ceph Developer Summit did11:31
jamespagethey had one day that was better timed for APAC11:32
infinitymwhudson: I need to update the release schedule, but the theory is for point releases to be every 6mo, starting at ~3mo after release.  I don't think we need a UDS session for that.11:33
mwhudsoninfinity: coolio11:34
infinitymwhudson: Exact dates are a bit more flexible than normal releases, but the aim is to make sure they're well out of sync with normal releases, since it's the same people/resources.11:34
mwhudsonthat makes sense11:34
mwhudsonso 14.04.2 might have the same kernel as 14.10, say11:34
infinitymwhudson: .2 will be the 14.10 kernel, .3 will be the 15.04 kernel, etc.  That's set in stone.11:35
xnoxmwhudson: why "might"? it will, cause hwe packs start with .2 releases.11:35
mwhudsonxnox: i don't know if .2 could use a newer kernel or something like that11:36
mwhudsonbut apparently i am wrong :)11:36
diwicpitti, hi, is usb-creator working for you in 14.04? It fails to both erase and create here.11:43
pittidiwic: I don't know off-hand, it's been some time since I used it11:44
pittidiwic: yes, erase fails with11:44
pittiWARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.11:44
diwicpitti, ok, do you think I should do anything about it (except filing bug 1289269 )11:44
ubottubug 1289269 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Hangs while erasing disk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128926911:44
diwicpitti, okay, then we have at least three bugs :-/11:45
pittioh, it doesn't hang here11:45
pittithis is an USB stick which I previously dd'ed the current image on11:45
pittiso supposedly that's how it got a GPT table11:45
GunnarHjHi pitti!11:52
pittihey GunnarHj11:52
GunnarHjpitti: I tend to think that the request in bug 1288843 is reasonable, even if there is a lack of official sources that support it. t_fmt_ampm is not normative in the same way as d_t_fmt and t_fmt, so as long as we set t_fmt_ampm without touching the other two it should be ok IMO.11:53
ubottubug 1288843 in langpack-locales (Ubuntu) "AM/PM string missing on Spanish locales" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128884311:53
popeygrr. twice today my x220 has locked up completely.11:53
pittiGunnarHj: yeah, maybe; I still like at least some semi-official references, like in major newspapers; I'm not sure how much proof upstream wants these days11:53
GunnarHjpitti: Historically they have been pretty picky, as you know much better than me. ;-)11:54
pittiGunnarHj: yes, but glibc maintainers changed a while ago11:54
GunnarHjpitti: But from a user perspective the result is not good: The UI offers the option to set 12h clock format, and it fails.11:55
pittiGunnarHj: yeah, that's certainly a bug in the config UI11:56
pittiGunnarHj: which should be fixed anyway; but I'm not opposed to adding some AM/PM format if there is some proof that whichever format is proposed is widespread and not just the knee-jerk invention of the reporter11:56
GunnarHjpitti: Or in the locales, depending on how you choose to look at it...11:57
pittiGunnarHj: well, e. g. in German there is no official format for AM/PM, so you couldn't "fix" it there11:57
pittiand inventing some incomprehensible abbreviations which nobody else understands doesn't help either11:57
pittiso it ought to be a wide-spread and recognizable format11:58
GunnarHjpitti: In this case there is a history of older bugs with some references. But I'll ask for references on this new bug.11:58
pittii. e. if major newspapers/news sites/governmental sites use it, it's ok11:58
pittiGunnarHj: if we have some in dupes, that's fine of course11:58
GunnarHjpitti: dupes?11:58
pittiGunnarHj: or whatever you meant with "older bugs"?11:59
GunnarHjpitti: Aha.11:59
pittiGunnarHj: "dupes" == "duplicate bugs"11:59
GunnarHjpitti: Got it now. ;-)11:59
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cjwatsonxnox: Did you ever submit upstart-app-launch merge proposals for the changes you uploaded directly?12:32
xnoxcjwatson: no, i don't think so.12:33
xnoxcjwatson: looks like there were two. Should i make a manual branch with changelog/changes, or can ci-train sync up trunk at all?12:33
cjwatsonxnox: Would you mind?  I have some upstart-app-launch changes I want to land myself, and that'll need to be sorted out12:33
xnoxok.12:33
cjwatsonxnox: I'm not sure about changelog, you'd need to ask somebody who knows about ci-train12:33
seb128cjwatson, xnox: bonus point if you include the changelog in the mp, if you don't there is an option to force publication over it though12:34
seb128the "force publication option" would mean your changelog entry would be dropped of course12:35
xnoxcjwatson: seb128: well, pushed this https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/upstart-app-launch/sync-archive/+merge/20990812:37
xnoxcjwatson: maybe set that one as pre-requisite and/or rebase on top of it?! (not sure)12:37
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cjwatsonxnox: I don't need to set it as a prereq, it'll be fine12:39
cjwatsonxnox: Thanks12:40
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bonafideHallo, ich versuche meine Wiimote mit meinem PC zu pairen, aber bekomme immer  eine Fehlermeldung. Was kann ich tun?12:45
bonafideSorry, I tried to pair my Wiimote but all I get is a error message. Bug is already reported. What can I do?12:47
mdeslaur_@pilot in12:52
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bonafideSorry, I tried to pair my Wiimote but all I get is a error message. Bug is already reported. What can I do?13:13
bonafideIm on Ubuntu 12.04.4. The error message is: "Setting up 'Nintendo RVL-CNT-01' failed"13:14
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ScottKcjwatson: I've run into a conundrum about clamav on ppc64el and I think that removal may be appropriate.  In the last upload, I fixed a bug that had caused the test suite to not run since before the first ppc64el build and discovered it fails on (only) ppcd64el, giving me an impression that the ppc64el binaries don't actually work.  I've no idea how to deal with fixing it (nor hardware to test) and so I think removing the binary so it can14:04
ScottKmigrate might be appropriate since I don't see it as a real regression.  Thoughts?14:04
ScottKBuild log if you're interested: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/168490729/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-ppc64el.clamav_0.98.1%2Bdfsg-2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:05
cjwatsonScottK: I'm OK in principle but there are several reverse-deps14:11
cjwatsonclamsmtp, dansguardian, havp, libc-icap-mod-virus-scan, libclamunrar6, proftpd-mod-clamav, python-pyclamav14:12
cjwatsonthat seems like rather a lot to rip out14:14
cjwatsonif you have any guesses I could puppet for you on an internal porter box?14:14
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ScottKcjwatson: The only thing comes to mind is if you can go back and look at the diff for the last Hardy uploads, I had to disable (I think) the same functionality that is failing here, so an arch specific build option might be in order.  Other than that, no ideas at ail.14:24
ScottKI'm looking for it14:26
ScottKHere it is.14:27
ScottKifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH),lpia)14:27
ScottK  export enable_llvm=no14:27
ScottKendif14:27
ScottKcjwatson: ^^^ with lpia/ppc64el, of course.14:27
ScottKPut that right before config.status: configure14:28
cjwatsonScottK: ok, give me a minute to make sure I can reproduce the failure14:30
ScottKOK.  Good luck.14:30
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cjwatsonScottK: Sorry for the delay; I was called away for urgent childcare.  That change fixes the build.15:15
ScottKNo problem.  I know how that goes.15:15
ScottKcjwatson: Please go ahead and upload then.15:15
cjwatsonScottK: Done.15:19
ScottKThanks.15:19
pittixnox: you synced python-apt, right? would you mind terribly if I remove it again? it introduces regressions (like bug 1288171) and thus I can't land a new apport15:26
ubottubug 1288171 in python-apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "0.9.3 regression: Setting APT::Architecture now downloads wrong indexes" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128817115:26
pittiremove from -proposed, I mean15:26
ScottKSince llvm itself FTBFS on ppc64el, I guess it's no surprise the embedded code copy in clamav didn't work either.15:26
xnoxpitti: yeah, remove it. there aren't any pressing changes that we need from 0.9.3 to be honest.15:27
pittixnox: ack; i. e. this was mostly a "no remaining Ubuntu changes" sign?15:28
xnoxpitti: yeah.15:28
pittixnox: ack, thanks15:28
marcoceppi_So, I'm attempting to patch 1223229 and I've submitted this patch to the precise package which is the only release of Ubuntu affected by the bug, https://code.launchpad.net/~marcoceppi/ubuntu/precise/charm-tools/lp1223229/+merge/20954215:31
marcoceppi_is there anything else I need to do for this? like ping someone or request somethign from somewhere15:31
pittimarcoceppi_: no, it's in the sponsoring queue15:37
pittimarcoceppi_: well, you need to set up the bug for SRU, i. e. add rationale and testing instructions15:38
pittimarcoceppi_: and it needs to be a public bug15:38
marcoceppi_pitti: cool, can do15:39
ScottKcjwatson: Is there a porters page or something for ppc64el where it might make sense to make a note that if someone fixes llvm on ppc64el, they should look at re-enabling it in clamav too?15:59
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mdeslaur_udevbot: wake up16:01
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bdmurrayseb128: could you have someone look at bug 1289202?16:06
ubottubug 1289202 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "archive function does not always work - regression" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128920216:06
seb128bdmurray, tb issues in stable series are security's team16:06
seb128jdstrand, chrisccoulson: ^16:09
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udevbotError: "wake" is not a valid command.16:09
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jdstrandseb128: I assigned to chrisccoulson. He'll take a look as part of the next update16:11
seb128jdstrand, thanks16:11
cjwatsonScottK: I'm not sure; infinity might know16:18
jamespage!regression-alert16:50
ubottubdmurray, cjwatson, Daviey, didrocks, doko, infinity, jdstrand, pitti, RAOF, Riddell, ScottK, seb128, skaet, slangasek, SpamapS, stgraber: reporting regression in a stable release update; investigate severity, start an incident report, perhaps have the package blacklisted from the archive16:50
jamespagebug 128094116:51
ubottubug 1280941 in tripleo "metadata agent throwing AttributeError: 'HTTPClient' object has no attribute 'auth_tenant_id' with latest release" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128094116:51
jamespagethe latest 2013.2.2 release has a problem with the neutronclient we have in saucy16:51
jamespagenot picked up during testing16:51
jamespage(obviously)16:51
jamespageupstream fix for neutronclient: https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/commit/02baef46968b816ac544b037297273ff6a4e8e1b16:52
infinityjamespage: So, erm... What regression is this?16:53
infinityjamespage: saucy only has one version of python-neutronclient ...16:54
infinityOh, it's neutron itself that broken neutronclient.  Check.16:54
jamespageyes16:54
jamespagethe fix we need is in neutronclient16:54
infinityjamespage: So, can you get a quick neutronclient SRU up that has nothing but the one cherrypick?16:54
jamespageinfinity, zul is working on it right now16:55
jamespageivoks, fyi ^^16:55
infinityHow much working on it can there be?  Looks like a 10 second job. :)16:55
jamespageinfinity, well it takes on TL to run around flapping while zul does the actual work right ?16:55
infinityjamespage: Heh.16:55
jamespage:-)16:55
ivoksjamespage: thanks16:56
jamespageivoks, hey - I'm just making noise - zul's doing the work16:56
ivokszul: we are waiting :)16:56
ivoksjamespage: it's not to see noise getting escalated :D16:56
ivokss/not/nice/16:57
jamespagelol16:57
infinityjamespage: Anyhow, if someone gets something in the queue that looks like it matches that upstream commit, byte-for-byte, I'll review and accept.  I may or may not be around at a convenient time to do an expedited release to -updates after you guys have put it through a bit of testing (flying around the world this weekend), but feel free to find another SRU team member, or even another AA and say "Adam said this is cool as long as we prove we ...16:57
infinity... tested it".16:57
ivoksi've tested it16:57
infinityivoks: The package.  You can't have tested the package.  Just saying.16:57
ivoksyeah, that's true16:57
ivoksi've tested upstream commit16:58
ScottKWe need the package tested.16:58
ivoksyup, i know16:58
ivoksScottK: and i'll test it as soon as it's available16:58
ivoksi have broken deployment already prepared for this test16:58
infinityPerfect.16:58
jamespagenice having a pre-prepared test bed for this16:59
stgraber@pilot out17:03
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zuljamespage: just doing a local build before uploading17:06
jamespagezul, good-oh17:07
jamespagezul, I raised a task for bug 128094117:07
ubottubug 1280941 in tripleo "metadata agent throwing AttributeError: 'HTTPClient' object has no attribute 'auth_tenant_id' with latest release" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128094117:07
zuljamespage: ok just uploaded17:10
ivokszul: jamespage infinity please ping me when it's ready for testing17:11
jamespageinfinity, its in the queue17:15
infinityWrong bug ref...17:17
infinityzul: That should be 1280941, not 127712017:18
zulinfinity:  please reject and ill reupload17:18
infinityGo ahead.17:18
ivokszul: bug number?17:20
ivokszul: same as upstream?17:20
zuldone17:21
infinityzul: Accepted.17:23
zulinfinity:  cool thanks17:23
infinityzul: (For future reference, you don't have to upload to $series-proposed anymore, $series works just fine and lands in the right queue)17:24
Nafallohey :-)17:26
zulinfinity:  ok cool17:27
NafalloI found a patch against net-snmp to add btrfs support to hrFSTable. would it be to late for the next LTS? :-)17:27
infinityNafallo: File a bug?17:30
NafalloI can do that.17:30
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xnoxogra_: if you are about still, is the ubuntu-touch-meta that landed 20h - actually in fact really old build? cause it's out of date =/17:57
ogra_which version ?17:57
Laneyyes it is17:58
xnoxogra_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta/1.109 landed 20h into release pocket.17:58
Laneyit was put into the silo ages ago and then released from there17:58
xnoxi see.17:58
ogra_xnox, it landed 20th in the PPA17:58
xnoxogra_: Laney: what do I need to do to kick off ubuntu-touch-meta refresh?17:58
Laneydo it normally17:59
ogra_the seed change is not relevant anymore and needs adjustment as well, but for the sake of a green image it wasnt done yet17:59
xnoxogra_: what do you mean? is r151 which landed is bad? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.trusty18:00
xnoxogra_: what needs adjustment?18:00
ogra_driving the seeds through the CI train is really awkward too ... not sure how we can prevent them from going out of sync18:00
ogra_xnox, no, not bad, but we want to get rid of gst 0.10 at some point ... sergiusens and rsalveti have that in their hands18:00
ScottKNot everything that uses it has a 1.0 port though.18:01
rsalvetiyeah, once gallery-app drops support for it18:01
ogra_well, only the gallery app in our case18:01
rsalvetiright, but at least in touch we don't plan to support anything using 0.1018:01
rsalvetias that will not use any hw decoder18:02
xnoxogra_: ScottK: rsalveti: i think we all know that we have both gstreamers still on the desktop, on touch, in main and everywhere.18:02
xnoxogra_: gst is not the problem, you made it sound as if the seed is somehow broken at the moment.18:02
ogra_xnox, well, on touch only gallery app kepps it18:02
ogra_xnox, why do you care ?18:02
* ogra_ didnt mean to make it sound as if anything was broken ... i simply said we will roll parts of the seed change back 18:03
xnoxogra_: i care about landing ubuntu-touch-meta refresh to drop a load of libraries.18:03
ogra_hmm18:03
rsalvetixnox: hey, on a different topic, what is the current state of the i686 android toolchain you were building?18:03
ogra_xnox, did you coordinate that with didrocks18:03
xnoxogra_: which depend on gtk and don't do anything.18:03
ogra_he is anxiously waiting for a 100% image18:03
xnoxogra_: hm.... libraries that use X server, which is not running, are cruft =)18:04
ogra_xnox, well, as long as you run the testsuite with them removed18:04
xnoxogra_: sure!18:04
ogra_(i wouldnt trust that all deps in our upstream apps are 100% fine)18:05
justCarakasis there already something in place for an HTML5 app as datepicker or timepicker ?18:10
infinityjamespage: I'm going to catch some sleep.  If I wake up and discover that SRU has been verified but not released, I'll push it out.18:21
jamespageinfinity, thanks - testing now18:21
jamespageI was able to reconfirm the regression - now testing the fix18:21
infinityYou shouldn't have a hard time finding someone in a sane NA timezone to release it while I nap, though. :)18:21
jamespageivoks, its in proposed (saucy)18:39
jamespageivoks, I reproduced and then tested OK18:39
hallynoh, i see.  bash completion no longer works with ~ expansion18:41
hallyni.e. "ssh-add ~/.ssh/i<tab>" shows nothing18:41
ivoksjamespage: ok18:45
sergiusensogra_, xnox  the gst drop is in a branch bfiller_afk and his team are working on (related to the new thumbnailer) (cc rsalveti)18:46
jamespageivoks, I'd like to run the full smoke test run against it before we release - should take about 1 hr18:46
rsalvetixnox: sergiusens: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/c/206/19:01
rsalvetixnox: that should hopefully fix the amd64 ftbfs for the i686 androideabi toolchain19:01
xnoxrsalveti: ok, i'll rebuild the toolchain and check it out. if it's good i'll upload it into the archive.19:02
xnoxrsalveti: however, it still doesn't do SSP properly thus the image needs to be compiled with -fno-stack-protector, which is quite bad as well.19:03
xnoxrsalveti: didn't sort out that second problem yet.19:03
rsalvetixnox: right, no worries19:03
mhall119what's the process for getting a package *removed* from Universe?19:03
cjwatsonfile a bug on it, subscribe ubuntu-archive19:04
cjwatsongive a good reason19:04
mhall119thanks cjwatson19:04
mhall119"it's incompatible with it's dependencies" is a good readon19:04
cjwatsondon't give the reason here :)19:04
mhall119ok, I'll see if I can fix/update it over the weekend, but otherwise I'll file for it to be removed19:07
mhall119cjwatson: so the package in question is qimo-session, which in 2.x uses a modified Xfce session, but in 3.x will use a modified Unity session, which means there is a drastic change in dependencies for that package, is it okay to just change the Depends or do I need to do something to let the user know that such a big change is happening?19:09
ivoksjamespage: ok19:09
mhall119it's probably not relevant, because I don't think qimo-session worked in 12.04 either19:09
jtaylorsomeone know the url of the branch the gcc packages are based of?19:17
ivoksjamespage: zul ScottK infinity verification done19:18
slangasekhallyn: hey, so I tried to do a test build of your qemu 2.0~pre packages on powerpc, and got this error; is this something you could take a look at? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7051684/19:18
slangasekhallyn: (we have a powerpc porter box again, so should be easy :)19:18
zulivoks:  excelente19:18
jtayloroh found it, the vcs browser has more than one page19:18
slangasekhallyn: in fact, might be as simple as dropping debian/patches/ubuntu/target-ppc-add-stubs-for-kvm-breakpoints, which may be double-applied?19:19
hallynslangasek: hm, ok.19:19
hallynslangasek: yeah, looks like that was prolly fixed in git, and patch was quietly re-adding it.  it didnt' wanna fuss19:21
hallynslangasek: yeah upstream commit c65f9a07a78afa3c98712f6192962ffd6babe33919:21
hallyni'll push a new build with that dropped, thx!19:21
slangasekhallyn: thank you :)19:21
hallynthank you!  pushed.19:23
ScottKivoks (and infinity) on it.19:25
jamespagethanks ScottK19:26
ScottKjamespage, ivoks , zul , infinity: Released.19:28
jamespageexcellent19:29
NoskcajCan some more people please add testimonials to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#MOTU ?19:40
NoskcajLaney ^19:45
Noskcajmterry, ^19:48
mterryNoskcaj, hello!19:48
Noskcajhey mterry19:48
mterryNoskcaj, is there a close deadline or can I do it this weekend?19:48
Noskcajmterry, Just by the next 19UTC meeting19:49
NoskcajThat's the only time i can apply till around october19:49
mterryWhat day?19:49
* mterry forgets when the membership meetings are19:49
mterryNoskcaj, ^19:50
Noskcaj24th19:50
mterryNoskcaj, ah, pfft.  OK!  I'll add something this weekend.  :)19:50
Noskcajthank you19:50
mterryNoskcaj, oh man.  Just now realized your  nick is jackson backwards19:51
* mterry is smart19:51
Noskcaj:)19:52
NoskcajI think that's three people have worked that out now19:52
Noskcaj:)19:52
* mterry goes afk19:52
LaneyThat's the only way I can remember how to spell it19:55
LaneyI'll write something soon19:55
Noskcajthanks19:56
sarnoldpitti: another trusty bug not yet retraced after eight hours: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/128928920:02
ubottuError: launchpad bug 1289289 not found20:02
barrymlankhorst: oh man, *anything* i can do to help debug LP: #1284134, just let me know.  it's causing me physical pain ;)  i'll drop everything else to help gather information20:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1284134 in xserver-xorg-video-vmware (Ubuntu) "Xorg crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128413420:12
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