| dsmythies | godbyk: Are you around? | 00:06 |
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| godbyk | dsmythies: Yep! | 00:18 |
| dsmythies | godbyk: Begin blurb... (wait until the "End blurb") | 00:21 |
| dsmythies | As you know, My 14.04 computers have been ahving grief since about janaury 15th, and Unity since February 17th, but now Unity is O.K. again. GNOME still not, but I am using a GNOME VM of 13.10. | 00:22 |
| dsmythies | O.K. so, I was stuck on something in mid Jan, and not that I am able to continue stuck again... | 00:23 |
| dsmythies | The issue is "sharing" and trying to reslove dead end links in docs and links to files that are not there. | 00:24 |
| dsmythies | I go back and forth between GNOME and Unity to try to understand what is going on, or supposed to be going on. | 00:24 |
| dsmythies | Both GNOME and Unity mention to open "settings" and then open "sharing". However "sharing" doesn't exsist in "System Settings" in either Unity or GNOME. | 00:26 |
| dsmythies | O.K> so maybe that is because I do not have any pakcage installed that uses sharing, nor a Bluetooth device, and so maybe then the sharing option doesn't appear. | 00:27 |
| dsmythies | So I unstalled rygel on my 13.10 GNOME and re-booted and such, and still no "sharing" shows in "system settings". | 00:28 |
| godbyk | Hmm.. It may be that that capplet no longer exists then? | 00:28 |
| dsmythies | I do not understand. Do you? | 00:28 |
| godbyk | Let me boot up my 14.04 VM and take a look. | 00:28 |
| dsmythies | Exaclty, so I searched and searched and didn't find any other info. | 00:28 |
| dsmythies | Oh... "End blurb" | 00:29 |
| godbyk | Which page are you looking at? | 00:29 |
| dsmythies | I am in GNOME right now, but on "share youe music and photos and videos" I thinkk there is similar in unity. | 00:30 |
| godbyk | Also, I don't see a 'Sharing' option in the system settings for Ubuntu 13.10, either. | 00:31 |
| dsmythies | yes, but many things (O.K> about 3) refer it it. | 00:31 |
| dsmythies | I have seen other times and option or whatever missing, becuase I didn't have it, like the Bluetooth icon for example. That is why I installed rygel, as a test. | 00:32 |
| godbyk | Hmm.. I'm having trouble finding the page you're referring to. | 00:32 |
| dsmythies | ... let me boot unity... wait | 00:32 |
| godbyk | I have a Bluetooth icon on my 13.10 installation. (I have a cheap Bluetooth dongle on my desktop and it's built in to my laptop.) | 00:33 |
| dsmythies | Oh, that could be very helpful... | 00:33 |
| godbyk | I'm happy to help test Bluetooth-related instructions if I can. | 00:34 |
| dsmythies | in unity help type" sharing" | 00:35 |
| dsmythies | Oh, it isn't the same as GNOME | 00:36 |
| dsmythies | Grrrr.... my untiy isn't working again... | 00:37 |
| godbyk | You make me scared to install updates on my 14.04 installation. :) | 00:38 |
| dsmythies | from the results of "sharing" search select "connect your computer to a bluetooth" | 00:39 |
| dsmythies | then click on "sharing-bluetooth" at the lewer part of the page. | 00:39 |
| dsmythies | Og crap, that si a different problem. | 00:40 |
| godbyk | heh.. too many pages! :) | 00:41 |
| dsmythies | I usually can never figure out how to nagegate to a spot, so I just use "files" and then open with help on the file I want. | 00:42 |
| godbyk | That works, too. | 00:43 |
| godbyk | I'm just trying to find the instructions you were talking about. | 00:43 |
| dsmythies | The bluetooth file that is missing is the one I was trying to figure out, so I booted GNOME to tyr to know, but there is no "sharing", so GNOME doc doesn't even seem to right. | 00:44 |
| dsmythies | Oh, I opened that page from GNOME docs becuase it isn't in unity docs yet. | 00:44 |
| godbyk | Ah, okay. | 00:45 |
| godbyk | Which version of GNOME docs are you referencing? | 00:45 |
| dsmythies | Whatever is there on the computer. Wait a sec, I'll give a reference. | 00:46 |
| dsmythies | /usr/share/help/C/gnome-help/sharing-bluetooth.page | 00:48 |
| godbyk | Okay, my Bluetooth capplet doesn't have a sharing option in either 13.10 or 14.04. | 00:51 |
| godbyk | I need to update my 14.04, though. | 00:51 |
| dsmythies | I was trying to figure it all out, but no computer in my house has bluetooth | 00:51 |
| dsmythies | So Itried photo etc sharing under a GNOME boot, and it still didn't make sense (using GNOME help on a GNOME boot) | 00:53 |
| godbyk | I'm installing 14.04 updates now. | 00:56 |
| godbyk | Hopefully that'll fix the issue I'm having with the window manager crashing. | 00:56 |
| godbyk | brb | 00:56 |
| dsmythies | Yes, the newset updates will (should) fix it. | 00:57 |
| dsmythies | compiz had crashitice for 2 weeks. Dorve me bizzerk. | 00:58 |
| godbyk | back | 01:15 |
| dsmythies | Kevin, Quie by accident, I found what I was looing for, just now. | 01:17 |
| godbyk | dsmythies: Ah, excellent! | 01:17 |
| godbyk | My updates are still installing. | 01:17 |
| godbyk | It was waiting on confirmation from me and I hadn't noticed. | 01:17 |
| dsmythies | in dash type "sharing" and open personal file sharing preferences. The bluetooth options are in there. | 01:18 |
| godbyk | Ah! | 01:18 |
| godbyk | Apparently I need to install a couple other packages... | 01:19 |
| godbyk | At the top of that dialog, it says, 'This feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system.' | 01:19 |
| dsmythies | I still do not understand GNOME boot mode, but we already know they suffer with keeping up to date as we do. | 01:19 |
| dsmythies | It's O.K. since now I found that file. I can edit sharing-bluetooth.page for untiy (I think). | 01:20 |
| godbyk | Also interesting: If you click the Help button in that dialog, you'll get application-specific help (outside of Ubuntu docs). | 01:21 |
| dsmythies | godbyk: I seem to have dragged you around on a bit of a wild goose chase | 01:22 |
| dsmythies | hmmm.... built in help stuff looks pretty good. Why do we bother? Why not just say "see built in stuff"? | 01:24 |
| godbyk | dsmythies: Can we link to it from our docs? | 01:26 |
| dsmythies | I don't know. It seems to be written for GNOME, actually. | 01:26 |
| godbyk | Hrm... | 01:28 |
| godbyk | I wonder how much of the app-specific docs are also GNOME Shell–specific, too. | 01:28 |
| dsmythies | I'll boot GNOME again and see if that stuff is there. | 01:29 |
| dsmythies | O.K. Under GNOME it is the same, but there is no "Personal preferences" under "system" The help file seesm to be the same. | 01:33 |
| dsmythies | Anyway, I think I know how to proceed. (I'll get stuck again in 23 minutes probably.) Everything seems to take 20 times longer than I ever imagine going into it. | 01:37 |
| godbyk | That seems pretty typical of my work, too. :) | 01:39 |
| dsmythies | Thanks for helping | 01:40 |
| godbyk | No problem! | 01:41 |
| dsmythies | shaunm: Are you around? | 16:47 |
| dsmythies | shaunm: My question was about bug 1270314 , but I think I have figured it out. | 22:19 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1270314 in Ubuntu Documentation "no way to navigate to some pages" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270314 | 22:19 |
| shaunm | dsmythies: orphans only looks at topic/guide links, which is intended to be the primary navigational structure. so it's entirely possible it reports things as orphans that you can click your way to | 22:42 |
| shaunm | but the things as orphans are pages where you can't click your way back up using either the link trails or the "More Information" links at the bottom | 22:43 |
| dsmythies | shaunm: I realize that now, but was pretty confused last night. Thanks. | 22:43 |
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