[00:01] <apb1963> sarnold: so if I were sending mail from another ISP say.... aol... then I wouldn't have this issue?
[00:02] <sarnold> apb1963: if the mail is From: or From_ an aol address it would be more likely to work, Ithink..
[00:04] <apb1963> sarnold: so.... if I were to have a From: line that matched their domain... that would resolve it?
[00:05] <sarnold> apb1963: it'd probably help, especially if you could pop3 or imap4 to that account from the same ip address shortly before..
[00:06] <apb1963> i'm reasonably sure I send before receiving on the normal use account which works.
[00:06] <apb1963> I'm pretty sure it goes out instantly too.
[00:06] <apb1963> i.e. not just when I poll for POP
[00:07] <sarnold> last time I looked into this the usual timings were e.g. five or ten minutes
[00:07] <sarnold> they could make it a few hours or so..
[00:07] <apb1963> Yeah, I poll every 5 or 10 minutes... but outgoing goes as soon as I send.
[00:07] <sarnold> (and at this point, it's all speculation on my part that they'd use it :)
[00:08] <apb1963> Right... so assuming they don't... then what would I need to change... my /etc/mailname?
[00:09] <apb1963> somehow this doesn't make sense... surely other people using freedns send their email out without having to compromise their domain name and rely on the name of their ISP.
[00:10] <apb1963> I think this might be where SMTP auth comes in perhaps.
[00:11] <apb1963> !welcome
[00:11] <sarnold> apb1963: antispam mechansisms have seriously degraded the ease of setting up mail servers these days :(
[00:12] <sarnold> apb1963: you could investigate using e.g. sendgrid as a way to get your mail onto the internet
[00:15] <apb1963> sarnold: ok so since my use case is limited... lets try this a different way.  Lets say I want thunderbird to poll for system mail the same way it polls RR.
[00:16] <apb1963> sarnold: It would what... connect to dovecot somehow?
[00:16] <apb1963> so just add another account to thunderbird?
[00:16] <apb1963> yeah... that sounds good
[00:16] <apb1963> :)
[00:16] <sarnold> apb1963: I think there's a few approaches; running dovecot locally is one that many of my friends have used for various reasons I never understood :)
[00:17] <apb1963> I'm going to try it
[00:17] <apb1963> that's the simple solution
[00:17] <apb1963> since i'm already running dovecot I think
[00:18] <sarnold> apb1963: this post suggests that you could also use /var/spool/mail/ directly with thunderbird, in case you've got local delivery already working: http://askubuntu.com/a/199453/33812
[00:22] <apb1963> sarnold: Thank you!  I suspect that's what I'm looking for.  I was unaware of the need for a .forward file and is probably the reason why my aliases never worked.  That had me puzzled for like a  year now.
[00:23] <apb1963> I still don't understand the need for a .forward file... seems like an alias should be enough... but hopefully that's one additional mystery solved.
[00:24] <apb1963> In fact... i would think one or the other is all that's needed... not both.  Seems odd to me.  Oh well, that's a different conversation.
[00:25] <sarnold> it's been ages since I've hosted my own email, such a pain.. I don't recall that constraint before, but I'm not sure I'd used aliases extensively back then
[00:40] <apb1963> sarnold: Well, thunderbird won't let me choose that directory.... "The Local Directory path "/var/mail" is invalid. Please pick a different directory."  Unfortunately I need to deal with something else so I'll have to come back later.  Thanks for the help!
[00:41] <apb1963> Could be permissions.  :(
[00:41] <sarnold> apb1963: good luck!
[00:41] <apb1963> Anyway.  Thanks!
[00:41]  * apb1963 leaves
[00:43] <strlng> I'm trying to figure out bouncing mail for a specific account with postfix. I have an email address, jim@blah.com that receives lots of spam. So jim now has an address he is using instead, jim2@blah.com. Problem is jim has an account on the server. So I need to have outside mail addressed to jim@blah.com to bounce, but mail to jim2@blah.com to go to user jim. Is there any way to do this?
[01:01] <smoser> med_, tht would most certainly be wrong :)
[01:02] <smoser> cirros most certainly works on virtio:
[01:05] <smoser> wget http://download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.1/cirros-0.3.1-x86_64-disk.img -O cirros-disk.img
[01:05] <smoser> kvm -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=net00,mac=52:54:00:12:34:00 -netdev type=user,id=net00 -drive if=virtio,file=cirros-disk.img
[01:05] <smoser> that will work fine.
[01:05] <smoser> i suspect your issue is that its looking for an ec2 metadata service, which its not goign to find.
[01:49] <rostam> Hi I use preseed file to automate installtion of my system. I want to boot into EFI mode, do I have to do anything special in my preseed file with regard to booting in EFI mode? Thx
[06:24] <basil> Hi I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04. Yesterday, when I rebooted, it showed 2 fails - Starting configure network drive and Starting configure virtual network drive. Can anyone shed some light please?
[07:48] <Repox> Hi. reverse dns / ptr records. Is this something I need to setup on the server?
[08:43] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[08:43] <marcus_> any suggestions on how to proceed?
[08:56] <basil_> Hi my new installation of Ubuntu 12.04 won't connect to the Internet using FF - error is "unabale to connect". But I can ping www.google.com, ping 8.8.8.8 and ping my gateaway. My webserver is also working. How can I connect to the Interne tfrom my server?
[09:03] <cfhowlett> basil_, try a different browser: chromium?
[09:06] <basil_> had thought of that....but I get an error of "failed to download package files" when I try to install chrome
[09:17] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup. How should I proceed? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[09:39] <jamespage> zul, I recut your MP with some extra stuff - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/neutron/icehouse-b3/+merge/209870
[09:39] <jamespage> zul, not sure how you come back from that comment late yesterday
[09:39] <jamespage> :-)
[09:47] <jamespage> sarnold, hey - I know you are busy but when do you think you will get to the juju MIR?
[10:27] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup. How should I proceed? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[10:32] <ikonia> marcus_: what make/brand is the sas controller
[10:33] <marcus_> ibm serveraid
[10:33] <marcus_> let me find the model number
[10:34] <marcus_> IBM Express ServeRAID M1015
[10:35] <ikonia> whats the actual problem with it ?
[10:36] <marcus_> ikonia: only 8 of 24 drives are detected
[10:36] <marcus_> there are 3 of those controllers, and their combined bios detects them all
[10:36] <ikonia> there are 3 controllers, with how many disks on each
[10:36] <marcus_> 8
[10:36] <ikonia> so that suggests only one controller is being detected/loaded at boot time
[10:37] <marcus_> all 3 boot up properly before the OS boots
[10:37] <marcus_> and dmesg throws errors on them
[10:37] <ikonia> does it throw an error on all of them, or just one of them
[10:37] <ikonia> (or two)
[10:38] <marcus_> not quite sure
[10:38] <marcus_> I'm sort of new to troubleshooting with dmesg
[10:38] <marcus_> on hardware
[10:38] <ikonia> well, dmesg isn't the only tool here
[10:38] <ikonia> what does the syslog say ?
[10:39] <ikonia> what kernel module does it use ? how many instances of that are loaded ?
[10:40] <Repox> Hi. I have an issue with an executable. When trying to execute supervisorctl I get an error telling me that "bash: /usr/local/bin/supervisorctl: No such file or directory" . But the file is actually located in /usr/bin, not /usr/local/bin. How can I fix this?
[10:40] <marcus_> ikonia: I'm not sure what to look for... should I paste it to a pastebin?
[10:40] <ikonia> Repox: looks like it's hardcoded to look there
[10:41] <ikonia> marcus_: well, look for it starting to bring the disk system up
[10:41] <ikonia> marcus_: look for it making references to the controllers
[10:41] <ikonia> look at the kernel module - look how many times it tries/succeeds in loading it
[10:44] <marcus_> ikonia: kernel: [  191.668158] megasas: [ 0]waiting for 1 commands to complete <- like this?
[10:45] <ikonia> no, but that is useful, so it's still waiting for something, although that may not be a bad thing
[10:45] <marcus_> kernel: [  191.668155] scsi 2:0:0:0: megasas: RESET cmd=12 retries=0
[10:46] <rahuldroy> Hi Guys, Can someone help me with with server question. Apache on my EC2 micro instance is using a really really high. It ideals at around 40% but also sometimes maxes the cpu completely
[10:46] <rahuldroy> any ideas on how I can debug it?
[10:47] <ikonia> marcus_: issuing a reset......interesting
[10:47] <marcus_> [    2.777725] megasas_init_mfi: fw_support_ieee=67108864
[10:47] <marcus_> this is the first reference I can find in the syslog
[10:47] <marcus_> [    2.777726] megasas: INIT adapter done
[10:49] <ikonia> don't know what that means, looks like its an init and loading of firmware (at a guess)
[10:49] <marcus_> grepping mega from the syslog gave me a nice view
[10:50] <marcus_> but then there are call traces in the logs, that means something crashed..right?
[10:51] <ikonia> not always
[10:52] <marcus_>  [  367.079111] megasas: [175]waiting for 1 commands to complete
[10:52] <marcus_> guessing this isn't a good sign
[11:23] <makara> any idea what's wrong here? http://postimg.org/image/7yns6gdnv/
[11:31] <jamespage> rbasak, are you intending on pushing any more debian-ubuntu mysql resync this cycle?
[12:08] <rbasak> jamespage: I was thinking about just doing a merge against the latest release to make future merges easier, but that would probably actually be no code changes in the end, just a version bump.
[12:08] <rbasak> jamespage: I don't have anything else to send to Debian, I don't think.
[12:08] <rbasak> There's an upstream microrelease update needed, too.
[12:09] <jamespage> rbasak, not worth the churn - lets pick this up again next cycle
[12:09] <jamespage> rbasak, is that granted yet?
[12:09] <rbasak> jamespage: yes, it's granted. I haven't worried about it too much though, since we can do that at any time and more will surely come along.
[12:09] <rbasak> (so I don't see it as critical for release, but a nice-to-have that we release with the current, which may not be today's current)
[12:09] <jamespage> rbasak, I wonder if I can piggy back on that for mysql-5.6
[12:10] <rbasak> jamespage: I expect so. The 5.5 TB decision was not controversial. I'm sure that the 5.6 one will be considered to be the same if we just ask them. I'd also agree that techncially it's the same decision, but since it's a different source package it seems polite to ask.
[12:12] <rbasak> jamespage: have you seen bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1284376? Looks like it just needs a merge.
[12:13] <jamespage> rbasak, doko already did it
[12:13] <rbasak> Ah!
[12:13] <jamespage> marking it so
[12:13] <rbasak> You beat me to it :)
[12:30] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[12:31] <zul> jamespage:  i just merged it as well
[12:31] <jamespage> zul, my neutron changes?
[12:32] <zul> jamespage:  yep
[12:32] <jamespage> zul, I need to upload still - doing that now then
[12:32] <zul> jamespage:  ok
[12:33] <zul> jamespage:  im going to play around with the cloud archive havanna stuff this morning
[12:34] <zul> jamespage: right after breakfast and wakeupage
[12:35] <jamespage> zul, good-oh
[12:44] <jamespage> zul, oh - btw the hplefthandclient MIR was subscribed to the sru team, not the mir team - fixed that
[12:44] <zul> doh
[12:45] <jamespage> zul, now if we can fix beautiful soup for django compressor
[12:46] <jamespage> we'll be clear on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[12:48] <zul> jamespage:  ill take a look at it today
[12:48] <jamespage> zul, great
[12:48] <zul> but i could have sworn i did that :)
[12:48] <jamespage> zul, this was the thing that was muddled with lxml I think
[12:48] <zul> yeah
[12:59] <jamespage> zul, I think we can just drop the BD - beautiful soup is only required for testing and is an alternative implementation
[13:02] <zul> jamespage:  looking
[13:03] <jamespage> zul, I got it
[13:03]  * jamespage is going to nail this
[13:03] <jamespage> zul, /usr/share/pyshared has gone btw
[13:04] <jamespage> I keep hitting packages that assume that will be present
[13:04] <zul> like what?
[13:05] <zul> jamespage:  yeah doko was rebuilding some packagages since pyshared has gone
[13:06] <jamespage> zul, the d/rules in that package uses it to locate django-admin to run the tests
[13:07] <jamespage> and then ignores the results anyway
[13:07] <zul> jamespage:  when i was looking at this bs4 was being used for python3 compat and beautifulsoup was being used for python2 compat
[13:08] <jamespage> in django-compressor?
[13:08] <zul> yeah
[13:08] <zul> too bad i dont have the patch anymore
[13:08] <zul> the /usr/share/pyshared stuff is just a no change rebuild fyi
[13:08] <zul> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/2014-February/010799.html
[13:10] <jamespage> zul, uploaded - less than ideal but as its not the default parser I'm failing to care this late in release
[13:10] <zul> ditto
[13:11] <jamespage> gonna raise a bug against this and lxml to say they have optional dependencies on beautifulsoup
[13:46] <gnuoy`> I'm trying to port trusty squid3 to our internal suite (mainly to enable ssl support). But our dak doesn't support xz compression. Previously I've twiddled dh_builddeb -- -Z to gzip and profited but the packaging for squid3 is more complex. As far as I can see the Makefile.am already have "AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS = dist-bzip2 ..." which I'd have thought was dictating bzip rather than xz
[13:46] <gnuoy`> The message from dak is:
[13:46] <gnuoy`>  squid_3.3.8-1ubuntu6~0.14.04.IS.PATCHED_i386.deb: third chunk is 'data.tar.xz', expected 'data.tar.gz', 'data.tar.bz2', or 'data.tar.lzma'.
[13:47] <gnuoy`> If anyone has a tick could they point me in the right direction pls ?
[13:47] <rbasak> gnuoy`: without looking, I would guess that your AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS line is entirely unrelated to your debian packaging ending up xz compressed.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !trusty|gnuoy`,
[13:48] <gnuoy`> rbasak, ah, a red herring
[13:48] <rbasak> That line sounds more related to upstreams making a release tarball.
[14:24] <miceiken> hi guys
[14:24] <miceiken> im trying to set up dovecot
[14:24] <miceiken> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
[14:24] <miceiken> and all the stuff they refer to into config
[14:24] <miceiken> i cant find it
[14:25] <mardraum> all the stuff?
[14:30] <miceiken> marcoceppi_, like the ssl part, I added that by hand. but the protocol imap, pop3 etc
[14:30] <miceiken> *err mardraum
[14:44] <rbasak> mdeslaur_, lamont: I'd appreciate your thoughts on bug 1288823 please.
[14:44] <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/1288823
[14:44] <rbasak> (it's a request for --enable-rrl configuration option, rate-limit stanza to mitigate DNS amplication attacks)
[14:48] <lamont> rbasak: doh.  Given that we took the patch before it came into upstream, yeah.  we want that.
[14:49] <lamont> that is, 9.9.5 may have dropped it because of the merge upstream did....  if  you prep the patch, I'd be happy to stuff it into debian
[14:49] <rbasak> lamont: so we actually have a regression here?
[14:49] <mdeslaur_> I just added a comment to the bug
[14:49] <lamont> maybe.  that would be something to confirm
[14:49] <mdeslaur_> yes, we should add --enable-rrl
[14:50] <mdeslaur_> I'm not keen on limiting it by default in the config though, that's for a site admin to do
[14:50] <rbasak> OK, thanks. Do you want to take it, or shall I leave it open for the server team?
[14:50] <rbasak> (to: lamont I think)
[14:53] <lamont> I can make time to do it on the weekend, but it'll be sunday afternoon
[14:53] <rbasak> That sounds fine to me - thanks.
[14:54] <rbasak> Do we need an FFe for this?
[14:54] <lamont> enabled, absolutely.  rate limit by default? hell no
[14:54] <lamont> the only change will be this bug
[14:54] <lamont> and any other crits that are trivial that I can find in a few minutes of looking, to be fair
[14:54] <rbasak> OK. Thank you!
[15:40] <jamespage> rbasak, I sent you an email re some thinking I did about virtual-mysql-*
[15:44] <jamespage> zul, noddy fix - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/cinder/fixup-getent/+merge/209951
[15:57] <jamespage> zul, I should probably know but whats python-openstackclient ?
[16:07] <zul> jamespage:  its like the accumulation of all the clients
[16:07] <zul> jamespage:  one client to rule them all
[16:11] <zul> jamespage:  its probably a good idea to have it
[16:11] <jamespage> zul, maybe
[16:11] <jamespage> zul, so
[16:12] <jamespage> we have some inconsistency about when xxxx-manage db sync or whatever happens in maintainer scripts
[16:12] <zul> jamespage:  yep
[16:12] <jamespage> zul, glance does not do it if its sqllite
[16:12] <jamespage> if ! grep sql_connection /etc/glance/glance-registry.conf | grep -qv "sql_connection = sqlite:////var/lib/glance/glance.sqlite"
[16:13] <jamespage> zul, keystone always does it
[16:13] <jamespage> if ! grep -q sql_connection /etc/keystone/keystone.conf
[16:13] <jamespage> (as the string is 'connection' not sql_connection)
[16:13] <jamespage> zul, I like glances approach I think
[16:14] <zul> jamespage:  i agree
[16:15] <rbasak> jamespage: please could you subscribe ~ubuntu-server to nginx?
[16:15] <jamespage> rbasak, oh - go on then :-)
[16:15] <rbasak> Thank you!
[16:16] <jamespage> rbasak, done
[16:24] <jamespage> zul, which oauth is keystone using now?
[16:24] <jamespage> context
[16:24] <jamespage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keystone/+bug/1223010
[16:24] <zul> jamespage:  oauthlib
[16:24] <zul> marked it fix release
[16:25] <jamespage> done
[16:26] <zul> jamespage:  if you are on a bug warpath today i think there are some bugs assigned to the cloud-archive project
[16:27] <jamespage> zul, looking there next
[16:27] <zul> coolio
[17:56] <miceiken> Okay, so I'm trying to set up Dovecot following the ubuntu wiki tutorial. And one of the first thing it says is to amend the line with 'protocols =' but there is no such line
[18:22] <jamespage> zul, gonna kick of the testing in the lab as well
[18:23] <zul> jamespage:  okies
[18:23] <jamespage> zul, I was able to repro on saucy
[18:23] <zul> yay! :)
[18:23] <jamespage> zul, something for next week - nested kvm with 3.11 ontop of 3.8 kernel on precise
[18:23] <jamespage> not so great
[18:24] <zul> jamespage:  i thought that got fixed
[18:24] <zul> smb: ?
[18:28] <jamespage> top to bottomw
[18:28] <jamespage> 3.2 3.11 3.8
[18:31] <rostam> HI does anyone has any experience with Lupin ?
[18:32] <bekks> !anyone | rostam
[18:43] <rostam> !lupin
[19:10] <sarnold> jamespage: I am anticipating doing the juju mir mid next-week
[19:25] <jamespage> sarnold, great
[19:32] <stgraber> sarnold: speaking of MIR, what about cgmanager?
[19:41] <sarnold> stgraber: sorry, still not yet started
[19:41] <sarnold> stgraber: also hopefully next week (i'm hoping it'll be quick, since I've already read much of an earlier version of the code)
[20:07] <phillw> Hi good people, I have a question as to how you specify which kernel is used in the server ISO (I need this for alternate community edition)
[21:44] <miceiken> Is there some way to move all the mail from /var/mail/* to /home/*/Maildir after changing the delivery folder?
[21:45] <sarnold> miceiken: look into formail and procmail; formail can do operations on every mail in an mbox, procmail can do delivery
[21:47] <miceiken> formail -ds old>new?
[21:49] <patdk-wk> sarnold, that is way too hard
[21:49] <patdk-wk> miceiken, just do a mbox2maildir conversion on the files in /var/mail
[21:49] <patdk-wk> then put the resulting cur/* new/* files into the Maildir folder for that user
[21:50] <patdk-wk> mb2md would be a program to do it
[21:50] <miceiken> Do I need to do this for all users?
[21:50] <miceiken> or does it automaticly do it
[21:50] <sarnold> patdk-wk: oh much better
[21:50] <patdk-wk> per file in /var/mail
[21:51] <patdk-wk> or, if you are using dovecot
[21:51] <patdk-wk> you can make dsync do it for you
[21:51] <patdk-wk> all users at once
[21:51] <patdk-wk> instructions will be on the dovecot wiki, it's a bit more tricky, but not too hard
[21:55] <miceiken> nah mb2md is great thanks patdk-wk
[21:55] <miceiken> last question, is /etc/aliases used to anything other than mail aliases?
[21:55] <patdk-wk> that depends on if your email program even bothers to use it
[21:55] <miceiken> using postfix and it does
[21:56] <miceiken> like, if I have users running services (i.e. git) but I want the mail to git@example.com to go to my user instead
[21:56] <patdk-wk> if you use default config, yes, postfix will use it
[21:56] <miceiken> would I come in trouble with making an alias?
[21:56] <patdk-wk> nothing else uses it
[21:56] <miceiken> k thanks
[21:56] <miceiken> should I use .forward file over it though?
[21:56] <miceiken> which would you prefer?
[21:57] <patdk-wk> heh?
[21:58] <patdk-wk> does your delivery system (mda) even support .forward?
[21:58] <miceiken> I see you can create a .forward file in the user's directory to have all messages automaticly forwarded through another user
[21:58] <patdk-wk> .forward is almost dead
[21:58] <miceiken> According to the postfix guide I'm using it is
[21:58] <miceiken> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto#Per_User_.forward_Files
[21:58] <patdk-wk> if you use the postfix mda (local) probably
[21:59] <patdk-wk> what imap/pop program are you using?
[21:59] <RoyK> hm... bowmore 15
[21:59] <miceiken> courier, patdk-wk
[22:16] <tych0> hi hallyn, getting lxc-create: Permission denied - failed to create directory '//.local/'
[22:16] <tych0> i am probably being evil and running this in a way it isn't supposed to be run
[22:16] <tych0> is there a nice way that i can run it in a way that it should work?
[22:16] <tych0> (i'm running it as the maas user, which doesn't have a home dir or anything)
[22:18] <hallyn> feh, this is probably XDG crap.
[22:18] <hallyn> stgraber: ^
[22:18] <hallyn> so if you dont' have an XDG_RUNDIR, it falls back to homedir...
[22:19] <tych0> ah
[22:19] <hallyn> tych0: setting XDG_RUNTIME_DIR might help
[22:19] <tych0> ok, to something in /tmp should be ok?
[22:19] <stgraber> so it can be two things, either it's the local path trying a fallback because of missing XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
[22:19] <stgraber> or it's because HOME isn't set
[22:19] <tych0> HOME probably isn't set
[22:19] <stgraber> since it's lxc-create, the latter seems more liekly
[22:19] <stgraber> *likely
[22:19] <hallyn> tmp is ok if you don't mind the container living in tmp...
[22:20] <tych0> ah
[22:20] <tych0> oh
[22:20] <tych0> ok, let me try something
[22:20] <hallyn> eh?
[22:20] <tych0> thanks
[22:20] <hallyn> ok :)
[22:20] <stgraber> tych0: you may be able to workaround this by setting -P, though the same issue will then hit you for the cache and runtime dir
[22:21] <stgraber> may be easier to just set a homedir somewhere in /var/lib for that system user :)
[22:22] <hallyn> yeah
[22:23] <hallyn> even libvirt-qemu has a homedir there :)
[22:25] <tych0> ha, ok :-)