[00:38] <redacted> why did it happen again?
[00:44] <gamerchick02> what happened mrgoodcat?
[00:49] <rick_h_> party party
[00:51] <gamerchick02> woo party party
[00:51] <gamerchick02> also woo Amy's getting rid of Razer stuff
[00:51] <gamerchick02> speaking of, anyone want to buy a DeathAdder and a BlackWidow?
[00:51] <gamerchick02> :-P
[00:55] <gamerchick02> $75 for the set... separate: $30 for the DeathAdder (retail $70) and $60 for the BlackWidow (retail $100).
[00:57] <mrgoodcat> gamerchick02: the network at WMU is having major problems today
[00:57] <gamerchick02> oh no!
[00:58] <gamerchick02> that's horrible. :(
[00:58] <mrgoodcat> one of the net ops screwed up and wiped out all the VLANS and took down the network for the whole university at around 2:30
[00:58] <mrgoodcat> and the network reset at 7:00 probably as part of fixing it
[00:58] <gamerchick02> :(
[00:58] <gamerchick02> and that makes it hard to do any work, yeah?
[01:20] <jrwren> gamerchick02: $75 for a set!!? oh how I wish I had $75 to give you
[01:21] <gamerchick02> well i paid $75 for the board (blue switches, macro keys, no backlighting) and the mouse was on sale too... like $50 i think. not sure
[01:21] <gamerchick02> they're older models.
[01:21] <gamerchick02> and if you want them you're welcome to them. $75 is a good price for the set, i think
[01:22] <gamerchick02> oh and they're CLEAN. i don't eat at my desk at my apartment.
[01:22] <jrwren> i won't have the money to spend on it for a while and I don't like to drive to oakland county :)
[01:22] <jrwren> i just wish I did have the money and did like to drive to oakland county, in this case :)
[01:23] <gamerchick02> well if you have the money and are in oakland county and i still have them and you still want them, we can meet at a Tim Horton's or something.
[01:23] <gamerchick02> jrwren, you're not in the detroit area, i take it?
[01:23] <jrwren> Ann Arbor
[01:23] <gamerchick02> oh dang
[01:23] <gamerchick02> i'm not in Ann Arbor like ever
[01:24] <gamerchick02> and i see why you don't come up here. the drive is horrible
[01:30] <jrwren> exactly
[01:30] <jrwren> i do come up occasionally to see family.
[01:30] <jrwren> next time I do, i'll ping ya to see if you haven't sold 'em.
[01:30] <jrwren> but i imagine you could sell those pretty quick.
[01:31] <gamerchick02> i've not advertised much, just told a couple people at work and then in the irc room here
[01:32] <gamerchick02> i have a flyer but no pics on it. dunno if that makes a difference or not
[02:10] <gamerchick02> jrwren, do you want me to hold them for you?
[02:24] <gamerchick02> whoa: http://battle-stations.tumblr.com/
[02:54] <gamerchick02> hitting the hay. g'night everyone
[12:39] <cmaloney> Good moring
[12:39] <cmaloney> I hope your ships are all berthed accordingly.
[12:40] <cmaloney> (How about this: Good morning)
[12:44] <rick_h_> hah
[12:44] <rick_h_> had to read that twice
[13:06] <rick_h_> <3 <3 <3 http://xkcd.com/1339/
[13:18] <brousch> :P
[13:49] <cmaloney> What do you guys use for backups? I think rick_h_ uses a Synology NAS correct?
[13:50] <rick_h_> yep, synology nas + cron'd rsync + dropbox + s3 + replicating across 3 computers
[13:50] <rick_h_> + github I should say
[13:50] <cmaloney> Which Synology? 212J?
[13:50] <brousch> cmaloney: For personal I use crashplan
[13:51] <cmaloney> rick_h_: About how much are you backing up?
[13:51] <brousch> Crashplan and Dropbox, with Crashplan excluding anything in Dropbox
[13:51] <cmaloney> brousch: Yeah, I'm not 100% sure I need crashplan
[13:51] <brousch> It just works (but requires Java)
[13:51] <cmaloney> (he said knocking on whatever is in this Ikea desk)
[13:51] <rick_h_> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005YW7OLM/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[13:52] <rick_h_> cmaloney: so I backup my $HOME on each computer and my wife's machine. Each time I upgrade I create a new directory on the NAS to rsync to, so I've got 5 copies of my x230 for instance.
[13:52] <rick_h_> cmaloney: I've got about 1.3TB on the NAS
[13:52] <rick_h_> I only have my music on the desktop and back that up
[13:53] <rick_h_> pics are in flickr
[13:53] <cmaloney> kk. I'm finding that the 2TB drive I have via USB isn't cutting it anymore
[13:53] <rick_h_> yea, I've got 3TB in my NAS and it backs up every monday to a USB 3TB
[13:53] <rick_h_> I upgraded from 2's
[13:53] <rick_h_> (I've got two drives in mirror)
[13:53] <cmaloney> right
[13:53] <rick_h_> at some point I might go to 4's
[13:53] <rick_h_> but will wait a bit longer still
[13:55] <brousch> I like the Synology at work
[14:00] <rick_h_> cmaloney: http://uploads.mitechie.com/synology.png
[14:03] <brousch> I like how rick_h_'s home NAS has 2.5x more storage than my work NAS
[14:03] <rick_h_> lol
[14:03] <rick_h_> it's fitting, my desktop probably has 2.5x the ram :P
[14:04] <rick_h_> I like to have better stuff at home than the office would give
[14:04] <brousch> Maybe. We are all on ThinkCentre i5s with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSDs now
[14:04] <rick_h_> hmm, I guess I need bigger SSDs
[14:04] <rick_h_> but yea, 4x the ram
[14:05] <brousch> We finally madesome money, so I bought high spec machines in case they have to last 6 years again
[14:05] <rick_h_> ouch! 6yr?
[14:06] <rick_h_> "yay we can get LCDs!"
[14:06] <cmaloney> he
[14:06] <brousch> We actually had LCDs
[14:06] <cmaloney> heh
[14:06] <brousch> Now they're everyon'e second monitor
[14:06] <cmaloney> 17"
[14:06] <rick_h_> "but but my child's toy has better resolution than this work monitor?"
[14:06] <brousch> 24" 1080P all-in-ones with 19" 1280x1024 seconds
[14:07] <rick_h_> you will use your 1MP conference camera and enjoy it!
[14:08] <brousch> I'm actually really happy with the current desktops. The speed is phenominal compared to the 2006-era crap we had
[14:09] <cmaloney> Well yeah, you finally caught up
[14:10] <cmaloney> Great, my "Mr Jingles" blocker extension broke this morning
[14:10] <rick_h_> Mr Jingles blocker extension?
[14:10] <rick_h_> w...t...f?
[14:11] <brousch> Why would you block Mr. Jingles? How can he play with your bells if you block him?
[14:12] <cmaloney> rick_h_: I have ADD when it comes to seeing that little bell with a number by it.
[14:12] <cmaloney> It's like seeing an answering machine with a blinking light
[14:12] <cmaloney> I have to know what's in there.
[14:12] <cmaloney> There's someone at work who has her phone voicemail light constantly on
[14:13] <cmaloney> I want to just go over there and ask her to kindly listen to the message
[14:13] <cmaloney> I know it's none of my business
[14:14] <cmaloney> but I would pay her, I swear.
[14:14] <rick_h_> lol
[14:14] <rick_h_> "Where's my phone?!"
[14:15] <rick_h_> "You can have it back when you can use it responsibly"
[14:15] <rick_h_> "Like LISTEN TO YOUR MESSAGES!"
[14:22] <DrDaemonEye> cmaloney: my voicemail light is always on... It has this annoying feature that unless I save or delete a voicemail, it is considered "new".  I hate it
[14:22] <rick_h_> ouch
[14:22] <rick_h_> duct tape, here we come
[14:23] <DrDaemonEye> Thankfully, people tend not to call me unless the importance is the same level of that as me on fire
[14:30] <jrwren> i use s3 for backups
[14:31] <DrDaemonEye> never heard of it
[14:31] <jrwren> i need to rework it so that its per file instead of a tarball, and gpg each file.
[14:31] <jrwren> s3?
[14:31] <DrDaemonEye> yea
[14:31] <jrwren> AWS S3 - Simple Storage Service
[14:31] <jrwren> its probably the single largest file storage system in human history
[14:32] <DrDaemonEye> ah okay
[14:32] <rick_h_> :)
[14:32] <DrDaemonEye> I just have access to a few servers scattered around the country that I scp to on a regular basis, so I have not been keeping up with backup systems
[14:33] <jrwren> its not a backup system.
[14:33] <DrDaemonEye> I'll have to check it out
[14:33] <jrwren> its technically an object data store. ;]
[14:33] <jrwren> i find the distinction rather silly
[14:33] <DrDaemonEye> heh
[14:34] <jrwren> i suppose its because it predates everything being cloud.
[14:34] <jrwren> we'd have just called them cloud file systems.
[14:34] <DrDaemonEye> cool.  It sounds cloud-like to me
[14:34] <jrwren> but we need some word to separate it from a filesystem in a disk
[14:35] <jrwren> it was cloud before cloud was a thing :)
[14:35] <DrDaemonEye> hehe.  :)
[14:35] <jrwren> and distributed filesystem came with such baggage, we didn't want to use that word
[14:35] <jrwren> but that is what it really is
[14:35] <DrDaemonEye> that it is
[14:35] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: to be clear, s3 isn't a consumer backup system. its an api for programmers.
[14:36] <DrDaemonEye> ah okay.  Still, something for me to look into
[14:37] <brousch> Does JungleDisk still use S3 as its storage?
[14:37] <brousch> That was the first consumer-grade S3 backup I remember
[14:37] <cmaloney> I kind of want to stay away from aything non OSS.
[14:37] <cmaloney> synology is pushing it but I trust them for some strange reason
[14:38] <jrwren> cmaloney: what about amazon?
[14:38] <cmaloney> I trust them to be dumb storage
[14:38] <jrwren> ok
[14:38] <cmaloney> but I have a little problem with them: a) I don't understand S3 that well, and b) what happens if the check bounces one month?
[14:39] <cmaloney> Problem A can be solved by using it, so that's a non-issue
[14:39] <jrwren> yeah, s3 is very easy to use, espeically with boto.
[14:39] <rick_h_> s3cmd
[14:40] <jrwren> boto
[14:40] <brousch> Doesn't Ubuntu have an S3 backup system now?
[14:40] <rick_h_> (though I don't use that still)
[14:40] <jrwren> i did not like s3cmd
[14:40] <rick_h_> no? everyone tells me I should be using that
[14:40] <cmaloney> brousch: It uses Duplicity which can support a number of backends.
[14:40] <brousch> Maybe this http://www.duplicati.com/
[14:40] <jrwren> rick_h_: they are wrong.
[14:40] <jrwren> rick_h_: these days you should be using awscli.
[14:40] <rick_h_> ah
[14:41] <rick_h_> that's the new boto replacement right?
[14:41] <rick_h_> well, has boto common under it
[14:41] <jrwren> yes
[14:41] <rick_h_> yea, I've not played with that yet
[14:41] <jrwren> its the thing that replaced the java tools. *CHEER*
[14:41] <rick_h_> and there was much rejoicing
[14:42] <cmaloney> anything that replaces Java is A-OK in my book
[14:42] <cmaloney> as long as it's still cross-platform.
[14:42] <rick_h_> unless it's ruby..then maybe
[14:42] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Damn you for taking my ultimatium and ruining it
[14:42] <rick_h_> lol
[14:43] <cmaloney> ultimatium: what wolverine's lawyer's claws are made of
[14:44] <jrwren> ruby is still better.
[14:44] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ruby is a PITA at times
[14:44] <mrgoodcat> ruby++
[14:44] <jrwren> with java, i don't know how to do anything.
[14:44] <cmaloney> RVM still makes my teeth hurt
[14:44] <mrgoodcat> i don't use rvm anymore
[14:44] <jrwren> rvm isn't that bad.
[14:44] <mrgoodcat> it's all about chruby now
[14:45] <jrwren> really?!?
[14:45] <cmaloney> wget -O chruby-0.3.8.tar.gz https://github.com/postmodern/chruby/archive/v0.3.8.tar.gz
[14:45] <jrwren> what happened to rbenv?
[14:45] <mrgoodcat> oh rbenv is nice too
[14:45] <mrgoodcat> i just use chruby
[14:45] <rick_h_> jrwren: I'll take packaged java over non-packaged ruby software most of the time :)
[14:45] <cmaloney> At least it appears to have an install process that doesn't require me to run a shell script from github
[14:45] <rick_h_> lol
[14:45] <mrgoodcat> chruby is just nicer
[14:45] <jrwren> rick_h_: i've never seen non-packaged ruby.
[14:45] <cmaloney> I can at least look at it first.
[14:45] <rick_h_> look, that's standard practice now
[14:45] <cmaloney> jrwren: rvm
[14:46] <jrwren> cmaloney: that is packaged.
[14:46] <jrwren> cmaloney: that is also, mostly bash scripts :p
[14:46] <mrgoodcat> rbenv depends on shims and weird context switching
[14:46] <cmaloney> \curl -sSL https://get.rvm.io | bash <- This is not an install
[14:46] <mrgoodcat> and you have to use rbenv rehash all the time
[14:46] <cmaloney> This is an attack vector
[14:46] <jrwren> cmaloney: lol
[14:47] <mrgoodcat> it even puts a slash in front in case you've overridden curl to not allow this
[14:48] <cmaloney> That's the kind of thing that comes from people who think it's an awesomeo idea to have irc open any link that pops up in channel
[14:48] <cmaloney> Man, i"m making all the right typos today.
[14:48] <jcastro> rick_h_, are you on trusty?
[14:49] <rick_h_> jcastro: yes
[14:49] <rick_h_> 3 machines on it
[14:49] <jcastro> my trackpoint stopped working
[14:49] <jcastro> pad works fine
[14:49] <rick_h_> ?!
[14:49] <jcastro> there's not some funky keycode to turn that on and off accidentally is there?
[14:49] <rick_h_> not that I know of. Only bios controls
[14:49] <rick_h_> I use that to turn off the pad
[14:53] <brousch> Ditch the nips! Pad is the future!
[14:54] <jrwren> how do you two finger and three finger swipe with a nub?
[14:54] <rick_h_> jrwren: you use the middle mouse button to scroll
[14:54] <rick_h_> (two finger)
[14:54] <jcastro> I have been using the pad for 10 minutes, and I already want to punch someone
[14:54] <rick_h_> and you use your keybaord shortcuts for swipe
[14:54] <brousch> barbaric!
[14:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: when I'm on my air I get angry
[14:55] <jcastro> swipe? why am I swiping on my laptop?
[14:55] <jrwren> that is because its a shitty lenovo chinese pad. you need a real bad, from AAPL, american!
[14:55] <rick_h_> jcastro: because it's the only wayt to change desktops and such
[14:55] <jcastro> what?
[14:55] <jcastro> man, kb shortcuts dawg
[14:55] <rick_h_> jrwren: thinkpad keyboard and trackpoint > apple trackpad
[14:55] <jrwren> MERCA!
[14:55] <jrwren> rick_h_: never.
[14:55] <rick_h_> jrwren: I speak the truth!
[14:55] <jcastro> I didn't touch my bios but I'm going to go check
[14:55] <rick_h_> shitty air keyboard
[14:56] <rick_h_> do you like some mush with your mush
[14:56] <jrwren> yup.
[14:56] <jrwren> Why do you think I make so many typos in here?
[14:56] <rick_h_> lol
[14:57] <jcastro> the frustrating thing is every PC laptop maker is following apple with the keyboard and pad
[14:57] <jcastro> race to the bottom
[14:57] <rick_h_> yep
[14:57] <jcastro> "people must want touchpads the size of aircraft carriers and keys that travel .00001mm, SHIP IT."
[14:57]  * rick_h_ remembers to see if anyone looked at his discourse reply on the matter
[14:58] <jcastro> preach it brother, I read it
[14:59] <jcastro> I will heart your response though
[14:59] <jrwren> and right there is why discourse fails for me. you have to remember.
[14:59] <rick_h_> well I think it emails me
[14:59] <jrwren> then it succeeds!
[14:59] <rick_h_> but I didn't get an email yet and there's a reply...fail
[15:00] <jcastro> rick_h_, it won't mail you unless I do @rick PREACH IT!
[15:00] <rick_h_> hah
[15:00] <rick_h_> so he's going to go sys76
[15:00] <rick_h_> that's cool, I wish them all the best
[15:00] <rick_h_> just don't care for their laptops, not high enough quality
[15:00] <jcastro> After the last revs of thinkpads
[15:00] <jcastro> I think the era of laptops is over
[15:00] <rick_h_> ugh, don't say that
[15:00] <jcastro> I got a $200 piece of junk chromebook
[15:00] <rick_h_> (as I type on my desktop)
[15:00] <jcastro> and it's good enough
[15:01] <jcastro> I guess I'll buy one of those every year instead of one good laptop that lasts me three. :(
[15:01] <rick_h_> guess I'll be hugging my 230 for a while. I'll be one of those crazy linux fools 6 years into a laptop
[15:01] <rick_h_> with the keys wiped and unreadable
[15:02] <jcastro> man
[15:02] <cmaloney> and a battery life of 3 minutes
[15:02] <jcastro> let's hope my trackpoint working is not a hw issue
[15:03] <cmaloney> $5 says he forgot to put us on auto-join
[15:03] <rick_h_> I'm afraid to run updates
[15:05] <jcastro> whew
[15:06] <jcastro> all set
[15:06] <jcastro> I think maybe it broke when I was waking up from resume, if it happens again I'll report a bug
[15:07] <rick_h_> jcastro: ok Im afraid to upgrade
[15:07] <rick_h_> but welcome back to the civilized world
[15:08] <jcastro> new kernel last night
[15:08] <rick_h_> hmm, /me notes to try to upgrade the mac
[15:08] <jcastro> but everything works fine on the 230, other than the brightness is non adjustable after resume, but I need to find time to report it
[15:18] <jrwren> cmaloney: if its running linux 3minutes is pretty good bat life.
[15:27] <cmaloney> ;)
[15:34] <brousch> It is the era of the Tablet
[15:35] <jrwren> its really not
[15:35] <jrwren> i still say those are consumption devices and that production is still primarily on laptop & desktop
[15:35] <brousch> It is coming
[15:36] <brousch> Keyboard is the biggest problem
[15:37] <cmaloney> brousch: keyboard, storage
[15:37] <cmaloney> CPU
[15:38] <cmaloney> battery life if pushed
[15:41] <brousch> CPU and storage only matter if you're developing locally. You should be doing it in the cloud
[15:47] <brousch> I think form factors like MS Surface Pro or Lenovo Yoga 2 are the future. Tablet when you want it, keyboard dock when you need it
[15:50] <jrwren> i feel content is more important than form factor.
[15:50] <brousch> You mean having a full OS like OSX, Windows, Linux instead of Android/iOS?
[15:52] <jrwren> no
[15:52] <jrwren> i mean content.
[15:52] <jrwren> apps
[15:53] <jrwren> people don't care about OS or filesystems or filemanagers (finder v. explorer)
[15:53] <brousch> So if your ipad had all the apps you need to do what you want, you'd ditch your laptop?
[16:07] <rick_h_> yea, it's scary to see moden tech users
[16:07] <rick_h_> my wife does 99% of her email on a phone
[16:07] <rick_h_> if it won't work/load on a phone it's dead to her
[16:07] <rick_h_> the only time she breaks out her laptop is to upload photos from the camera or entering patient notes on her work laptop
[16:07] <rick_h_> but form factor dictates content
[16:07] <rick_h_> definitely
[16:07] <rick_h_> yea, I easily see a chromebook populace with a small percentage of desktops/laptops for the creators
[16:07] <rick_h_> I think most 'users' would/will
[16:07] <mrgoodcat> if i have a list a = [1,2,3] and b = [1,4,5], is there a function to only return the values of b that are not in a ([4,5])? or do i need to roll my own function for that?
[16:07] <rick_h_> look at the set() data type
[16:07] <rick_h_> it'll do it for you
[16:07] <mrgoodcat> ty
[16:09] <brousch> rick_h_: Well if you're creating for Chromebook, you can just do it on a remote server, no laptop required. You will only need a laptop/desktop if you're creating the actual OS
[16:12] <brousch> Same with Android. You will develop normal Android apps on Android, but need a full computer to develop Android itself (or ROMs)
[16:29] <mrgoodcat> i already ditched standard laptop in favor of chromebook
[16:30] <mrgoodcat> but run linux on it
[16:34] <brousch> mrgoodcat: That doesn't count :P
[16:38] <mrgoodcat> :)
[16:38] <mrgoodcat> time for lunch
[17:21] <jrwren> brousch: no, i need a KB :)
[19:22] <rick_h_> waf: pebble 2.0 on android now
[19:22] <rick_h_> :)
[19:35] <cmaloney> nice!
[19:36] <rick_h_> and bookie hits 90K
[19:38] <brousch> Do you have a chart of the stats over time?
[19:38] <rick_h_> I've got the data, no chart
[19:38] <rick_h_> I count bookmarks, unique bookmarks, and tags every hour
[19:38] <brousch> get one of your slaves on it
[19:39] <brousch> I mean students
[19:39] <rick_h_> heh, one's working on a chart for per user counts right now
[19:54] <rick_h_> crap, and another import in the queue. Go celery go
[20:01] <jrwren> alternatives to protocol buffers. go:
[20:02] <rick_h_> to google's protobuf or just in general?
[20:03] <jrwren> in general.
[20:03] <jrwren> xml too bloated, json has no forward only readers, so those two are out.
[20:03] <rick_h_> so the goal is to do fast communication between services?
[20:03] <rick_h_> hmm, does bson have forward readers?
[20:04] <jrwren> good question
[20:08] <rick_h_> jrwren: I mean thrift is the big guy in the space. I've heard a lot of good things in proobuf, there's a few alternatives I can't speak intelligently on
[20:08] <rick_h_> and I'd check out bson as far as a more effecient json if you just need that
[20:10] <jrwren> thrift is rpc framework no?
[20:10] <rick_h_> message passing
[20:11] <rick_h_> at least I believe it's what you're looking for if you're looking at protobuf and such
[20:11] <jrwren> i see it now.
[20:12] <jrwren> bummer about thrift is they seem to focus on api & let impls deal with details of getting wire protocol correct
[20:25] <jrwren> thanks rick_h_
[20:25] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea sorry I don't have a good answer. I've not really needed these myself
[20:28] <jrwren> still, its more than I knew.
[20:28] <jrwren> i thought thrift was something else
[20:35] <jrwren> am tip: rm -f /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
[20:35] <jrwren> on your servers.
[21:01] <jrwren> is there an option to tell add-apt-repository to not add the source repo?
[21:36] <cmaloney> http://recursion-band.bandcamp.com/
[21:38] <greg-g> oh, I was hopeful it was more math rock
[21:38] <cmaloney> wish granted
[21:38] <cmaloney> Math hardcore
[21:39] <greg-g> ok, less hardcore then :P
[21:39] <cmaloney> Well, "Deathcore"
[21:39] <cmaloney> Tesseract it ain't.
[21:39] <cmaloney> but managed to find this on reddit of all places.
[21:40] <cmaloney> Someone had a "free prog metal" thread
[21:40] <cmaloney> and went through that list lookig for the CC folks.
[21:40] <greg-g> many?
[21:40] <cmaloney> 7-8%
[21:40] <cmaloney> which is better than what I was expecting
[21:40] <greg-g> heh
[21:41] <cmaloney> Had bands like Depths, Galactic Pegasus and Cloudkicker though
[21:41] <greg-g> cool
[21:42] <cmaloney> greg-g: I'm becoming you though. I picked up The Guessing Game by Cathedral
[21:42] <cmaloney> and Kyuss' last album
[21:42] <cmaloney> (..and the circus leaves town)
[21:43] <greg-g> Kyuss!
[21:43] <cmaloney> Yeah, was a shrinkwrapped promo copy
[21:43] <greg-g> nice
[21:43] <cmaloney> which I found odd and intriguing
[21:44] <cmaloney> and cheap
[21:44] <cmaloney> We've been heading downtown for J's class / CHC so I've been able to hit UHF (my pusher of choice)
[21:45] <cmaloney> Gotta love a place that plays "This is Spinal Tap". :)
[21:45] <cmaloney> CUPS AND CAKES BITCHES!
[21:45] <greg-g> :) :)
[21:45] <greg-g> some day...
[21:46] <cmaloney> ?
[21:47] <greg-g> I shall have time to rummage through a used cd store... and listen to my purchases the way they were intended
[21:47] <greg-g> basically, can I be transported back to undergrad, plz?
[21:47] <cmaloney> even better: they specialize in Vinyl records.
[21:48] <greg-g> never got into vinyl/don't have the equipment
[21:48] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm not a huge fan, but they have a decent used / new section
[21:48] <greg-g> cool
[21:48] <cmaloney> put this way: They have more metal than most places
[21:49] <cmaloney> although the B&N in Royal Oak actually has a metal section
[23:08] <gamerchick02> so.  cmaloney.  i went to microcenter. guess who's a proud owner of a ducky zero with mx blacks?
[23:09] <gamerchick02> also rick_h_
[23:09] <gamerchick02> ya'll are killin me
[23:13] <gamerchick02> this is smooth as butter. BUTTER
[23:13] <greg-g> :)
[23:13] <gamerchick02> i'm still selling the razer
[23:14] <gamerchick02> no use for blues
[23:14] <rick_h_> lol
[23:14] <gamerchick02> blues are too loud
[23:15] <gamerchick02> but wow yes. harder to press... reminds me of my first keyboard which might have been a model M i'm not sure. the computer was an IBM compatible from GM.
[23:15] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: woot
[23:15] <rick_h_> I had sore fingers when I first went to a unicomp
[23:15] <gamerchick02> wow but yeah the zero ain't no shine but it also wasn't $150
[23:15] <gamerchick02> what switches for that one?
[23:16] <rick_h_> buclking spring, model m style
[23:16] <gamerchick02> oh cool
[23:16] <gamerchick02> i remember i liked the sound
[23:17] <gamerchick02> and wow these are way different from the browns
[23:17] <gamerchick02> not sure what i like better, browns or blacks
[23:17] <gamerchick02> both have merits
[23:17] <gamerchick02> blacks are smooth as butta and the browns have that nice little click-bump
[23:21] <gamerchick02> i went with full this time. i'm done buying keyboards right now.
[23:21] <gamerchick02> who knows anything about the red switches? any lovers out there for MX Reds?