[00:00] <luigihs> bekks
[00:00] <luigihs> have look the private msg I had already those packages :/ so why the screen looks bad lol
[00:01] <humbag> ok i was with you 'til the VM part :P , can I do that from another partition with debian in it?
[00:03] <daftykins> humbag: i guess your install is going to lack the binaries to do much now, so i suppose however way you can make another install, be it chroot'd, virtualised, or even a persistent install on a flash drive you can update and mess with, whichever works for you :)
[00:05] <dummylinux> bekks: what is the shortcut command shall i write in .cshrc ?
[00:07] <humbag> thanks for helping daftykins I'll try to find a way, I've got space on the drive, a usb stick, live iso's, little experience with chroot, none with vm's, see you later
[00:08] <daftykins> humbag: np, good luck!
[00:10] <Venoryk> How can I configure my wireless from console?
[00:11] <Venoryk> I've installed wpasupplicant, but can't figure out how to configure it to be able to scan the networks. Running 13.10 mini
[00:16] <daftykins> Venoryk: it used to involve iwconfig to mess with scanning, but then you had to edit a config file to create a profile for your network i think
[00:18] <Venoryk> Daftykins, the only way that i've been able to get it to connect to my wireless is to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and manually input my network settings, but that doesn't do me any good should I move the HTPC elsewhere
[00:18] <basketball>  askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[00:19] <daftykins> Venoryk: i love wired ;)
[00:20] <Venoryk> Daftykins, I would consider running wired, but this particular htpc is going in my kids bedroom and the less wires the better which is why i'm trying to get the wifi working lol
[00:21] <daftykins> Venoryk: considered powerline networking? i'm a little confused, if you can set it up fine statically in interfaces, what's going to regularly change?
[00:21] <basketball> why isnt anyone here
[00:22] <Venoryk> Daftykins, I actually have it ran on a powerline right now configuring it. And it's not that setting it up statically isn't an option.. but I'm still wanting to figure out how to get it to work as intended.
[00:23] <Venoryk> One primary reason is that if my son goes to stay the night at his grand parents I can send the bookshelf system w/ him so that he can still have his htpc.
[00:23] <daftykins> Venoryk: hrmm, assuming you're running something like XBMC and so foregoing a standard desktop, i assume there's no network-manager use to configure it. i think wireless from CLI is always hell
[00:23] <Venoryk> Daftykins, yeah. It's an XBMC box being built on top of Ubuntu 13.10 mini install.
[00:24] <Oog> i have a cron job that runs every minute. sometimes it takes longer than a minute to run - if the process is still running I don't want a new one to start - how can i do this?
[00:26] <daftykins> Venoryk: i think wpa-supplicant driven wireless can still have multiple wireless network profiles, they all live in a wpa_supplicant.conf i think
[00:26] <Jordan_U> Oog: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/introducing-run-one-and-run-this-one.html
[00:26] <daftykins> Venoryk: i guess at this point my experience with it isn't enough to be of any use to you - but i'm sure googling for some config examples or even XBMC's forum might provide what's missing?
[00:26] <Oog> thanks!
[00:27] <Venoryk> Daftykins, the wpa_supplicant.conf I believe is where i'm running into my issues. I'm debating on copying the wpa_supplicant.conf from the 13.10 liveboot install over and seeing if that will help.
[00:27] <daftykins> Venoryk: in fact check out - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[00:29] <Venoryk> Daftykins, Thanks I don't know how with all my searching I didn't come across that particular page. But I have done similar as directed by other guides to no avail. But that one has a couple things the others haven't so I will test that out on the system and get back to you shortly.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Oog: You're welcome.
[00:29] <pepe_> join #mio
[00:30] <daftykins> Venoryk: np :) good luck
[00:36] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[00:38] <JFranks> So I'm trying to get 12.04.4 LTS AMD64 onto a SunFire X4100 .. First attempt was with MAAS.. Got to Grub install step and it'd just fail.. same with LILO.. Did a boot n nuke with wipe, rebuilt the RAID as a 2 disk mirror and tried a standard install with no MAAS.. Got through the install with no grief.. The server reboots in an unsupported video mode.. I tried the default 'how to get grub into 640x480 resolution' but I couldn't find a grub file
[00:38] <JFranks> to edit once I got to the shell in recovery mode.. Is this all totally typical? I've never had a hiccup installing Ubuntu on any other hardware.. :p
[00:38] <gmachine_24> Venoryk: how is xbmc working for you
[00:39] <alumno_> hola
[00:39] <alumno_> hola
[00:40] <gmachine_24> alumno_, state your business
[00:40] <alumno_> inglis jajja
[00:40] <alumno_> no
[00:40] <gmachine_24> !question
[00:40] <alumno_> todo bien?
[00:40] <rww> ubottu: es
[00:41] <Jordan_U> JFranks: What problem were you having finding /etc/default/grub from the recovery mode shell?
[00:41] <alumno_> ok
[00:41] <gmachine_24> :-) buena suerte
[00:41] <alumno_> cual es tu face_?
[00:41] <JFranks> Jordan_U: It offered a lot of choices for "root" to mount.. I took the 4th choice that ended in /root/ .. Possibly that was wrong?
[00:42] <JFranks> Jordan_U: 'locate grub' just showed some .c files.. and some scripts?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> JFranks: What offered a lot of choices? I don't understand in what context you're seeing this choice.
[00:45] <arturo__> HI
[00:45] <alumno_> que es esto?
[00:45] <alumno_> confuso :/
[00:46] <JFranks> Jordan_U: It was asking to pick the 'partition' (?) to load as the root .. I saw the usual 'nix drives /sda .. etc.. and then in the middle of the choices there was a volume manger/root/ type choice.. I think that's what I did wrong.. But rather than reboot and try every single permutation of the repair process.. and the install process.. Why not ask some experts about this particular server?
[00:46] <gmachine_24> ubottu: es
[00:46] <alumno_> ubottu quien sos?
[00:47] <alumno_> fhrthesrzrxhrth
[00:47] <gmachine_24> alumno_, si quieres communicar en espanol, por favor visite #ubuntu-es donde espansol es la lingua franca
[00:47] <gmachine_24> espanol, even
[00:47] <alumno_> jajajajajajajajja
[00:48] <alumno_> me quedo
[00:48] <llr_> hola
[00:48] <rww> "jajajajajajajajja" isn't English, try again.
[00:48] <alumno_> hola
[00:48] <alumno_> ahy no hay nadie
[00:48] <Jordan_U> What was "it"? Did you get this option when attempting to boot the installed system normally? When booting a recovery mode option from the Server install CD? Something else? Please from now on, don't use "it" in any of your answers without first saying what "it" is.
[00:49] <gmachine_24> alumno_: no nos hablamos in espanol aqui
[00:49] <gmachine_24> *en
[00:49] <alumno_> ?¡lol
[00:49] <gmachine_24> pendejo
[00:50] <Atomix26> so wait
[00:51] <Atomix26> I am confused about a general linux thing. not an issue per-se, but more of a... direction thing.
[00:51] <Jordan_U> JFranks: What was "it"? Did you get this option when attempting to boot the installed system normally? When booting a recovery mode option from the Server install CD? Something else? Please from now on, don't use "it" in any of your answers without first saying what "it" is.
[00:51] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[00:52] <gmachine_24> Atomix26, do you want us to guess? or perhaps you should ask your question
[00:52] <rww> gmachine_24: be nice :P
[00:52] <Atomix26> is POSIX Compliance still really a major "Goal"?
[00:52] <gmachine_24> I thought I was.
[00:52] <gmachine_24> :-)
[00:52] <Atomix26> for linux in general.
[00:53] <sakang> Atomix26: whose goal?
[00:53] <JFranks> Jordan_U: Sorry.. As I stated in my first message, I was making a second install attempt, it went without error, on reboot I get 'unsupported video' with a 19" 1080p LCD connected.. I looked up solutions.. all seemed to suggest getting GRUB to boot in low res... Couldn't get any of those instructions to work.. Couldn't find the grub config file to edit *(never had to know where/how it's always installed on all other hardware).
[00:53] <rww> Atomix26: 100% POSIX compliance is not. Linux tends to be mostly POSIX compliant, though.
[00:54] <JFranks> Jordan_U: So my real question is if the SunFire X4100 servers typically are this hard to do an install on? Is the AMD64 install the wrong choice? Is there a better distro?
[00:56] <Atomix26> does it just not matter anymore?
[00:56] <sakang> Linux is huge
[00:57] <Atomix26> that it is.
[00:58] <sakang> I find  most of the underlying system are compliant.
[00:59] <alumno_> hello
[00:59] <luissave> xD
[00:59] <luissave> para que sirve esto¡
[01:00] <rww> alrighty, one last try
[01:00] <rww> ubottu: es | luissave
[01:00] <luissave> no hay nadie ahy :/
[01:01] <rww> That's unfortunate, but still no Spanish here.
[01:01] <sakang> luissave: no comprende aqui
[01:03] <josePHPagoda> Anyone here ever use the gnome ubuntu distro?
[01:03] <josePHPagoda> I've been using ubuntu happily, but unity has been fairly unstable as of late
[01:03] <josePHPagoda> I'm considering changing to another DE
[01:03] <gmachine_24> luissave, el major de los persones aqui no hablan espanol; necesitas usar #ubuntu-es
[01:03] <sakang> what is taht josePHPagoda :)
[01:04] <josePHPagoda> (i've been hitting issues where unity doesn't accept any clicks on my primary monitor, but works on my secondary monitor still)
[01:04] <rww> josePHPagoda: #ubuntu-gnome might be useful, if this channel isn't
[01:05] <basktball> rwsq1,  askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[01:05] <basktball> rww, ,  askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[01:05] <josePHPagoda> rww thanks :)
[01:05] <sakang> josePHPagoda: you can try #xubuntu also
[01:05] <sakang> or #lubuntu
[01:05] <josePHPagoda> has anyone else run into issues where unity stops accepting any mouse clicks (except on the panel on the left or on the top bar?)
[01:09] <gmachine_24> josePHPagoda: are you running a virtual version?
[01:09] <llr__> LetLoveRule
[01:10] <alumno__> no entender
[01:11] <alumno__> u.u
[01:14] <gmachine_24> am I still here?
[01:14] <rww> yes
[01:14] <gmachine_24> ok. thanks. I don't understand all those system commands/messages
[01:15] <usr13_> josePHPagoda: Are you running gpm?
[01:19] <sudormrf> hey guys! two questions.  first, is it possible for me to dual boot even if I set full disk encryption on a fresh install of 13.10?
[01:20] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: It depends on what you mean by "full disk encryption". You can encrypt your Ubuntu partitions and still dual boot.
[01:20] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: whatever the FDE that is built in to the 13.10 installer uses
[01:21] <unicornjedi> Jordan_U, hellooo
[01:21] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: That would be LUKS, with individual partitions encrypted. And yes, you can dual boot when using this configuration.
[01:21] <Jordan_U> unicornjedi: Hi.
[01:22] <sudormrf> SWEET!
[01:24] <sudormrf> next question: I have a cron job that is not working right.  The command works if I enter it manually.  what the command is doing is doing iptables -L -n and capturing only the ip addresses as output.  it then writes that output to a file.  However when cron runs the task it just blanks out the file.  the PATH variables are right.  any ideas how I can get this working?
[01:24] <Guest75104> anyone wanna see my penis in action? private me
[01:24] <gmachine_24> good god what is going on
[01:24] <daftykins> does it run ubuntu?
[01:25] <sudormrf> HAHAHAHAH
[01:25] <sudormrf> daftykins: BRILLIANT
[01:25] <daftykins> :)
[01:25] <unicornjedi> :D
[01:25] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Please post the exact cron job you're using.
[01:25] <gmachine_24> they used to call people like Guest75104 "flag wavers"
[01:26] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: sudo iptables -L -n | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' | grep -v 0.0.0.0 > /home/nick/Documents/ip.blacklist.test
[01:26] <daftykins> gmachine_24: i suppose that saves on fabric at least
[01:26] <rodrigo__|> exit
[01:26] <rww> Jordan_U: o.O
[01:27] <gmachine_24> daftykins: I don't understand your last comment . . . then again I'm not understanding a lot in here today
[01:28] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: when that command is run from the CLI manually it works just fine
[01:28] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: when it runs via cron it erases the content of the file
[01:28] <humbag> actually i think it saves on poles
[01:28] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[01:29] <unicornjedi> hello, Im a nub. I need help compiling from source. I've never done it before
[01:29] <daftykins> gmachine_24: penis... flag wavers, were they waving flags on their... they'd probably be quite tiny ;)
[01:29] <daftykins> gmachine_24: anywho i must not stay offtopic :)
[01:29] <gmachine_24> so the posts from this texas auto freak are coming from vilnius, ukraine. that's ok. for some reason today seems the day for it. :-)
[01:29] <rww> gmachine_24: still getting them?
[01:29] <gmachine_24> rww yes
[01:30] <rww> gmachine_24: from which nick?
[01:30] <unicornjedi> who advertises on the IRC?
[01:30] <gmachine_24> dwayne whatever
[01:30] <unicornjedi> thats so old fashioned
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> sorry… this machine likes to suspend quickly
[01:31] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: compiling from source is actually fairly easy as long as you have a compiler, etc.
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> gmachine_24: it's not virtualized
[01:31] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, I have cmake, and makeinstall
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> and usr13_ I don't know what gpm is
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> so I'm pretty sure I'm not
[01:32] <Jordan_U> unicornjedi: What are you trying to compile?
[01:32] <unicornjedi> dogewallet
[01:32] <rww> lol.
[01:32] <sudormrf> love that doge
[01:32] <sudormrf> HAHA
[01:32] <sudormrf> dogeweather.com
[01:33] <gmachine_24> gpm = general purpose mouse, I think. what that means I don't know.
[01:33] <yaakov22> I actually really like dogeweather because it gets my general location and tells me the weather without me having tod o anything
[01:33] <yaakov22> and it gives me temperatures in C and F
[01:33] <b1g3m> hello!
[01:34] <potential> hello!
[01:34] <sudormrf> I wish they would randomise the comments more
[01:34] <b1g3m> finally got 12.04 installed... ran into some issues installing from cd, so made a bootable usb
[01:34] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: any comments on the cron job?
[01:34] <unicornjedi> omg thats amazing
[01:34] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: what happens after you do the makeinstall
[01:35] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, i've never compiled a package before
[01:35] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: are you having a problem?
[01:35] <Jordan_U> unicornjedi: There appears to be a ppa for dogewallet, see: http://4x.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1tvmnd/dogecoin_on_linux_the_complete_beginners_guide/
[01:36] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: You can't use sudo in a cron job, there is no way to request that the user input their password.
[01:37] <gmachine_24> sudormrf, you net to set up the cron job using sudo
[01:37] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: it is running from the root cron tab without sudo appended to it
[01:37] <yaakov22> That css.
[01:37] <gmachine_24> sudormrf, as in $sudo crontab -e
[01:37] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, ahhhhh,  i can't have a problem if I never attempted to compile from source
[01:37] <unicornjedi> Jordan_U: thanks son
[01:37] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: yes, but what is your problem?
[01:37] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: sorry, I just copied and pasted the command I was running manually.  so it is in the root user cron tab.
[01:38] <sudormrf> gmachine_24: it is in the root user cron tab
[01:38] <gmachine_24> sudormrf: ok
[01:38] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, what are the steps to compiling?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Please pastebin the output of "sudo crontab -l".
[01:38] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: brb
[01:39] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7047502/
[01:40] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: I removed it from the cron tab because it was removing data from the file
[01:41] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: typically after you unzip the source tar ball, there are text files that tell you how to compile, etc., that are in the directory created when you unzipped the tar ball
[01:41] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: What is the exact command you used to add it to the crontab?
[01:41] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: iptables -L -n | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' | grep -v 0.0.0.0 > /home/nick/Documents/ip.blacklist
[01:41] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, cool
[01:42] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: otherwise, there are lots of how-tos out there for compiling from source - depends in part on which version of ubuntu you're using etc.
[01:43]  * b1g3m jumps
[01:43] <b1g3m> opps
[01:43] <b1g3m> sorry
[01:43] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: That is not a command that changes a cron tab.
[01:43] <gmachine_24> but in general the steps are more or less the same
[01:43] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, is there a gui program that makes this stuff easy?
[01:43] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: oooohhh.
[01:44] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: sorry, misread what you wrote.  I am using gnome-schedule. so the interface is graphical.
[01:44] <gmachine_24> sudormrf: so does your cron file have the time settings at the beginning of the file re: when to run the command?
[01:45] <gmachine_24> sorry, I'm having trouble keeping track of what's going on
[01:45] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Then please re-add it then pastebin the output of "sudo crontab -l", without that it's not worth trying to debug crontab entries.
[01:45] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: I don't know about a GUI; I just use the command line
[01:45] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: ok.  hang on.
[01:46] <gmachine_24> the continuing posts coming from the texas toyota man are coming from Dane_Minor now
[01:46] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, yea, I guess I should learn how to use the command line more
[01:47] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: yeah, once you have the building blocks installed, it's not much more than configure, make, make install
[01:47] <b1g3m> so i can see there is a lot going on in chat. just a link or quick advise for a new ubuntu guy?
[01:47] <gmachine_24> always making sure you do an $sudo apt-get update / upgrade first
[01:47] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7047525/
[01:47] <pack^> gmachine_24: then make clean
[01:48] <cfhowlett_> !details|b1g3m,
[01:48] <b1g3m> !details
[01:48] <gmachine_24> right
[01:49] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: I have no idea what your problem is
[01:49] <b1g3m> just installed 12.04. im all up to date with updates. just trying to get a "whats next list"
[01:49] <sudormrf> b1g3m: use linux?
[01:49] <b1g3m> never
[01:49] <b1g3m> but im tired of everything else
[01:49] <sudormrf> b1g3m: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04
[01:50] <b1g3m> im not computer illiterate, just looking for something new.
[01:50] <b1g3m> thanks sudormrf
[01:51] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: careful; there are lots of what to do after installing pages on the Internet; perhaps the first thing to do is learn how to back up your install - and then back it up. Esp as your new and errors are inevitable. :-)
[01:52] <gmachine_24> *you're
[01:52] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: I'm sure sudormrf's link is helpful; I'm not knocking that
[01:52] <unicornjedi> (sword in ground) prepare yourself, errors are coming
[01:52] <sudormrf> gmachine_24: no worries :).
[01:52] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: any comments about my crontab?
[01:52] <gmachine_24> good. thanks.
[01:54] <b1g3m> I will be reading a lot tonight. Everything is looking good so far. Are you all pretty regular on here?
[01:54] <unicornjedi> Anyone here use dogecoin? the #dogecoin channel isnt very useful. They are talking about pizza right now
[01:54] <unicornjedi> blg3m, im a regular
[01:54] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, dogecoin is supported on dogecoin.  this is ubuntu.
[01:54] <xangua> unicornjedi: that doesn't make it topic here
[01:55] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: people come and go.
[01:55] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, it kinda is
[01:55] <sudormrf> b1g3m: yeah, people come and go, but someone will always be around to help
[01:55] <b1g3m> unicornjedi: I'll be seeing you. gmachine_24: Well that's to bad.
[01:56] <gmachine_24> b1g3m, good. people here know a lot - I mean A LOT.
[01:56] <humbag> sudormrf: one little thing, to write a file use > , to append to a file use >>
[01:56] <sudormrf> humbag: I don't want to append.  I want it to overwrite.  if it appends there will be duplicates
[01:57] <humbag> oh i misunderstood
[01:57] <sudormrf> humbag: no worries :)
[01:57] <b1g3m> gmachine_24: Lol that's good. I'm more so of a trial and error person before I go bugging anyone.
[01:57] <sudormrf> humbag: if you have any ideas to get it fixed, though, please :)
[01:58] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: So you expect it to overwrite the file with ip addresses, but instead it overwrites the files with nothing (leaving an empty file). Correct?
[01:58] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: I'm pretty certain most people here are the same. but, don't feel shy about asking. everyone was new at some point.
[02:04] <meLon_> I cannot ALT+SUPER+Left Click my gnome-panel to make edits.  Any suggestions?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/430577/unable-to-press-alt-super-right-click
[02:04] <cfhowlett> b1g3m, yes
[02:04] <b1g3m> cfhowlett: thanks
[02:05] <potential> Hello fellow Ubuntu-ers.
[02:06] <potential> I have a question that is on-topic about Ubuntu.
[02:06] <cfhowlett> !ask|potential,
[02:06] <b1g3m> Hello potential!
[02:07] <yaakov22> Random comment, but 14.04 beta has been way more stable for me then 13.10 has ever been.
[02:07] <potential> Where are the programs located? A "choose an application" came up and I can't find the folder of the program.
[02:08] <b1g3m> !
[02:08] <potential> I have a magnet link, for a torrent, and I need to choose and app. But I can't find where it is located at.
[02:08] <potential> The torrent client I am using is Transmission.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !torrent
[02:09] <xangua> potential: /usr/share/binaries for the program binaries, if you want to use transmission for example: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[02:09] <xangua> or gtk-transmission, one of those
[02:09] <potential> Thank you xangua.
[02:09] <xangua> !pm | usr13_
[02:10] <usr13_> xangua: I did not ask a question, just sharing information.
[02:11] <xangua> usr13_: pleas don't and neither call anyone names
[02:13] <usr13_> xangua: Your line of conversation is OT.
[02:18] <Guest89497> Does anybody have any experience on trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 to an older Dell desktop?  I had no problem installing a dual boot on an HP laptop, but the install hangs at the Ubuntu One screen.
[02:19] <b1g3m> Guest: What version?
[02:19] <b1g3m> Guest: Are you trying to boot from USB or CD?
[02:19] <Guest89497> It's a Dell inspiron 530 from 2008ish.
[02:20] <b1g3m> Guest: USB or CD?
[02:20] <Guest89497> CD.
[02:22] <b1g3m> I had a bit of the same issues. Are you getting a message saying the installer crashed?
[02:22] <Guest89497> No, it's not giving a message.  It's just hanging.
[02:22] <FuuqUmiist> hey friends! :)
[02:23] <Guest89497> The icon continues to spin.  I left it overnight last night and it was still hanging.
[02:23] <b1g3m> Does this happen after or before the "Try Ubuntu/Install Ubuntu" menu?
[02:24] <b1g3m> Hello FuuqUmiist!
[02:24] <FuuqUmiist> i like to pretend i have friends :(
[02:24] <Guest89497> It's after that.
[02:24] <Guest89497> I get through the location screens and it created a partition, but when it gets to the point where it asks you about whether you want to sign on with Ubuntu One, that screen just hangs.
[02:32] <t3flon> hey
[02:32] <t3flon> im trying to reinstall ubuntu from a flash disk, but my pc isnt giving me the option to boot into the flash drive
[02:32] <t3flon> is there anyway I can do this in the terminal?
[02:32] <b1g3m> !ask|t3flon
[02:32] <t3flon> !ask
[02:32] <b1g3m> !ask|b1g3m
[02:33] <t3flon> huhh
[02:33] <b1g3m> sorry, whats the computer?
[02:33] <t3flon> asus x401a
[02:34] <b1g3m> You've checked bios for usb boot?
[02:34] <t3flon> everything is in the bios as it should to boot into the USB, but its just not happening
[02:34] <t3flon> yeah man
[02:35] <b1g3m> Then your USB is not set up right. Did you set the USB up on windows or mac?
[02:35] <t3flon> uhhh
[02:35] <t3flon> netsplit
[02:35] <t3flon> i did it in ubuntu
[02:35] <t3flon> with the startup disk creator
[02:36] <b1g3m> hmm...
[02:36] <b1g3m> What are you getting when you turn the computer on?
[02:37] <b1g3m> Error boot? Or any messages?
[02:37] <t3flon> when I set it to boot to the flash, it boots straight to the BIOS
[02:38] <t3flon> maybe a flash  error?
[02:39] <t3flon> flash drive error
[02:39] <t3flon> i mean
[02:39] <b1g3m> That's what I was going to ask next, if you tried another drive...
[02:39] <t3flon> just gotta dig one up haha
[02:39] <t3flon> do you know of anything i can do via terminal ?
[02:39] <t3flon> thanks for the help btw blg3m
[02:40] <b1g3m> No problem, we'll figure this out.
[02:40] <t3flon> haha yeah
[02:41] <t3flon> on the ubuntu website it says press f12 upon booting up..are they just guessing thats the general key for BIOS?
[02:41] <t3flon> mines f2
[02:41] <b1g3m> Are you pressing that when you boot?
[02:41] <t3flon> havent tried it yet
[02:41] <t3flon> ill report back :P
[02:42] <b1g3m> I'll be here.
[02:42] <t3flon> haha
[02:42] <t3flon> thanks man
[02:42] <t3flon> appreciate it
[02:42] <b1g3m> np
[03:12] <pack^> someone having fun flooding tonight.
[03:31] <fdr> hi all
[03:34] <fdr> I just installed trusty and... where did the keyboard layout options go ? I'm trying to swap my ctrl -> caps ...
[03:34] <t3flon> hey
[03:34] <t3flon> I got it working!
[03:35] <t3flon> did 2 things, not sure which one it was
[03:35] <t3flon> tried a new flash, also went into GRUB menu and found the option there
[03:35] <t3flon> was probably the new flash
[03:36] <pack^> wonder how many more netsplits?
[03:37] <t3flon> one more n00b question for yall
[03:37] <t3flon> whats the terminal cmd to get chrome from the repositories ?
[03:37] <t3flon> its not on the ubuntu store
[03:38] <pack^> tried looking in synaptic?
[03:39] <t3flon> nah I havent tried looking there
[03:39] <Froodle> How can I add GVim to the Unity menu?  12.04 LTS
[03:39] <pack^> that is your complete repository.
[03:39] <t3flon> thanks pack
[03:40] <pack^> t3flon: click on search and type chrome then enter
[03:41] <t3flon> thanks..is chromium google chrome?
[03:42] <pack^> t3flon: yeah stripped of all the google stuff.
[03:43] <t3flon> oh nice
[03:43] <t3flon> thanks alot
[03:43] <pack^> yep. lots of programs to do LOTS of things if you have never looked before.
[03:43] <Froodle> Well, to put it another way, why doesn't GVim appear in the recent apps section of the dash?
[03:44] <pack^> Froodle: usually it is a terminal program...it runs in a terminal
[03:44] <JCM83> What's the gnome equivalent of MS  paint?
[03:44] <Froodle> Vim, yes.  GVim has its own window, complete with a launcher icon?
[03:45] <Froodle> Er, not a question.
[03:45] <b1g3m> JCM83: Gimp?
[03:45] <pack^> Froodle: just use the dash to find it and most times it is automatically added.
[03:45] <JCM83> Geez, that seems overpowered for this purpose.
[03:46] <JCM83> There's no lightweight image manipulation in ubuntu?
[03:46] <Froodle> I'm afraid it isn't adding, pack^ .
[03:46] <t3flon> pack^, what kind of things? where should I look, through the synaptic?
[03:46] <b1g3m> Gnome Paint Drawing Editor
[03:46] <pack^> Froodle: not sure what to tell you. Unity works different. You can use alacarte to edit the menu in most other distros but unity is different.
[03:47] <b1g3m> Or GNU Paint
[03:47] <pack^> t3flon: yeah. just click all in the left column. it will separate into different groups.
[03:47] <b1g3m> t3flon!
[03:47] <b1g3m> I thought you got lost!
[03:47] <Froodle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/1062053
[03:47] <Froodle> Oh well.
[03:48] <t3flon> thanks pack^
[03:48] <t3flon> blg3m!
[03:48] <t3flon> im on a fresh copy of ubuntu!
[03:48] <b1g3m> BOOM! What was wrong?
[03:48] <t3flon> tried a new flash drive, and also went into GRUB through startup
[03:48] <t3flon> not sure which one it was
[03:48] <t3flon> im guessing the new flash did it
[03:48] <b1g3m> Haha, go figure...
[03:49] <t3flon> 12.04 is freshhhh :D
[03:49] <Froodle> -ish
[03:49] <b1g3m> Atleast you're up and running. That's what I just installed.
[03:49] <pack^> soon 14.04
[03:49] <t3flon> thanks again for the help
[03:49] <t3flon> yeah, anyone running 13.10?
[03:49] <pack^> yes
[03:49] <t3flon> hows that
[03:49] <b1g3m> Enjoy!
[03:49] <pack^> unity is a bit better
[03:50] <t3flon> thanks blg3m
[03:50] <b1g3m> stable?
[03:50] <pack^> more programs to tweak it.
[03:51] <b1g3m> What's with all the netsplits tonight?
[03:51] <pack^> don't know. Mine quit with a 'flooded' error.
[03:52] <b1g3m> Dropped down to 180 people. So I jumped out and it took like 10 minutes to reconnect.
[03:52] <t3flon> chromium is awesome
[03:52] <t3flon> just a cleaner version of chrome
[03:52] <pack^> yes
[03:52] <b1g3m> I haven't installed anything yet. Just xchat. I'm doing a lot of reading...
[03:53] <t3flon> blg3m the world is your oyster with linux
[03:53] <t3flon> thats why I love it
[03:53] <t3flon> lol
[03:53] <b1g3m> Haha, I'm actually quite new here. :P
[03:54] <pack^> I started long ago but have had no experience with IT type work in linux. I think I started back in the 90's.
[03:54] <budo_> it keeps reading broadcom sta wireless driver is installed and currently in use, and it isnt
[03:55] <budo_> this is for Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[03:55] <b1g3m> pack^: Wow. I work in IT and have no experience with Linux.
[03:55] <pack^> heh
[03:55] <b1g3m> Plot twist...
[03:55] <b1g3m> I work for Apple... :/
[03:55] <b1g3m> Hahah!
[03:55] <t3flon> hah nice
[03:55] <pack^> b1g3m: I went to college for computer science back in 80's and learned unix.
[03:56] <t3flon> i work for MLB advanced media, and all the systems are completely run on linux
[03:57] <b1g3m> I wish I grew up earlier... I was born in the 80's...
[03:57] <pack^> b1g3m: you should be familiar with unix since the kernel is unix based in apple.
[03:57] <b1g3m> Oh, I am...
[03:57] <b1g3m> Is there a single user boot in Ubuntu?
[03:58] <t3flon> I've gotta learn more about the terminal
[03:58] <t3flon> its alot of fun
[03:58] <pack^> t3flon: learn to script with bash. saves a lot of work.
[03:58] <b1g3m> t3flon: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[03:58] <t3flon> thanks bros
[03:58]  * b1g3m chuckles
[03:59] <t3flon> ive got alot of downtime at work, I really wanna start learning some unix stuff
[03:59] <t3flon> so I can work in SYSops
[03:59] <t3flon> :D
[04:00] <b1g3m> t3flon: general location?
[04:01] <t3flon> i work in the traffic dept of MLB.com
[04:02] <b1g3m> nice dude
[04:02] <t3flon> thanks man, would love to start learning unix so I can make myself more valuable
[04:02] <t3flon> work with the sys dudes
[04:03] <b1g3m> I just want to work in a computer bunker...
[04:03] <b1g3m> Lol!
[04:03] <t3flon> hahaha
[04:03] <pack^> t3flon: go to distrowatch.com and find a bsd (unix) and install on a spare (old) computer and play with it.
[04:04] <t3flon> thanks pack^, definitely will check that out
[04:04] <t3flon> I work in a comp bunker but I want to get deeper into the bunker
[04:04] <t3flon> what do you do blg3m?
[04:05] <b1g3m> technician for apple
[04:05] <t3flon> nice man
[04:05] <b1g3m> yeah, pays the bills
[04:05] <b1g3m> haha
[04:06] <t3flon> yep I feel ya, where you located?
[04:06] <b1g3m> here in VA
[04:06] <b1g3m> you?
[04:06] <t3flon> nice
[04:06] <t3flon> im in nyc
[04:06] <b1g3m> Dude! I was born in Ossining
[04:06] <t3flon> oh nice, very close to me!
[04:07] <b1g3m> my old house was on somerstown road
[04:07] <b1g3m> haha
[04:07] <b1g3m> thats crazy
[04:07] <t3flon> howd you end up in VA?
[04:07] <b1g3m> wife...
[04:07] <t3flon> exciting
[04:07] <t3flon> haha
[04:08] <b1g3m> haha indeed
[04:08] <b1g3m> alright broham, I friended you. maybe ill run into you later. I'm out for the night.
[04:09] <t3flon> nice broheem
[04:09] <t3flon> night, ill see you around for sure
[04:30] <icedtea> what is the gtk2 development package name in the most recent stable version of ubuntu?
[04:31] <icedtea> hrm looks like  libgtk2.0-dev
[04:42] <budo_> anyone offering help?
[04:45] <xangua> !ask | budo_
[04:46] <xangua> mmmm the bot is also dead¿ :'(
[04:46] <budo_>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)  is not working
[04:47] <budo_> I've read all kinds of discussion boards for hrs following different instructions
[04:47] <budo_> still no luck
[04:48] <pack^> budo_: I'm not that good with wireless but whoever helps you will need to know exactly what you have done and what your system says.
[04:49] <budo_> ok. I'm great at following instructions.
[04:49] <netbrain> hey
[04:49] <pack^> you on 12.04 or 13.10?
[04:49] <netbrain> hello people
[04:50] <netbrain> 13 xubuntu
[04:50] <diecastarts> hey all again.. I really need someone to help me with bumblebee. I can get the error if needed again.. but I been tring everything i found on the web and it all no good.
[04:52] <netbrain> what is that
[04:52] <diecastarts> reinstalled like the web says and rebooted many times. and still getting this error when i try to run optirun [ 1105.899759] [ERROR]The Bumblebee daemon has not been started yet or the socket path /var/run/bumblebee.socket was incorrect.
[04:52] <diecastarts> [ 1105.899844] [ERROR]Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running?
[04:52] <netbrain> so what exacly you trying to install
[04:53] <netbrain> and i help with that
[04:54] <diecastarts> bumblebee-nvidia bbswitch-dmk <__ forget that without looking up  and the linux headers
[04:54] <netbrain> oh
[04:54] <netbrain> well thats real complicate
[04:54] <budo_> 12.04.4 LTS, Precise Pangolin
[04:55] <budo_> I'm actually on xubuntu, if that makes a difference
[04:58] <pack^> budo_: to be honest I have an old inspiron 8100 that I tried the xubuntu on. Couldn't get the broadcom to work on it either. But I did find another distro that runs fine and the wireless works. Never spent the time finding out why it wouldn't run under xubuntu.
[04:58] <diecastarts> what is the command to reinstall with apt-get??
[04:59] <pack^> diecastarts: If using apt I would purge first then do another install.
[05:00] <budo_> what was your broadcom model  pack
[05:00] <diecastarts> k thank you
[05:00] <budo_> was it identiccal to mine?
[05:01] <pack^> budo_: don't remember and it is not where I am now. It was made by Belkin (pcmcia) but was broadcom.
[05:01] <budo_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[05:01] <budo_> ok. what distro did you choose
[05:01] <diecastarts> pack^, actually was just going to try to reinstall all these sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus linux-headers-generic but if purge linux-headers-generic will that be bad???
[05:01] <pack^> budo_: that would not be appropriate on this channel.
[05:02] <budo_> I already wasted 4 CDs jumping from distro to distro.......trying to get this card to run
[05:02] <budo_> ok, can you pm it to me
[05:02] <pack^> diecastarts: hmmm. Might not be good. server or unity or what?
[05:02] <diecastarts> Lubuntu
[05:03] <pack^> budo_: there is no guarantee what I put on it would work with yours.
[05:03] <pack^> diecastarts: just use synaptic to go in and 'remove-all' with the bumblebee then when it finishes do a complete reinstall.
[05:04] <pack^> diecastarts: I would imagine though you will need to go edit the config files to get the right port to work.
[05:04] <diecastarts> budo_, i used to have problem with wireless long ago. but it was simple command to turn on the card for me.. but i forget what it was.. look up stuff about wlan0 commands maybe
[05:04] <pack^> diecastarts: you may not really need to uninstall it.
[05:05] <budo_> ok
[05:05] <diecastarts> pack^, k thank pack
[05:08] <pack^> budo_: just curious. what does it say on your bar about connections?
[05:09] <dupingping> Hi
[05:09] <dupingping> may i just a question?
[05:09] <dupingping> How to run desktop at xterm?
[05:11] <pack^> I think all the linux guru's are taking a nap right now.
[05:14] <budo_> the icon never appears
[05:14] <pack^> budo_: open a terminal and type ifconfig
[05:15] <budo_> I was making some changes. now my wireless isn't there anymore
[05:15] <pack^> you changed something bad then.
[05:15] <budo_> read and followed some new instuctions
[05:16] <pack^> It must show in ifconfig.
[05:16] <jose> alguien abla spañol
[05:16] <jose> habla español
[05:16] <pack^> no habla espanol
[05:16] <Unit193> !es | jose
[05:17] <budo_> how do I remove all the drives and files pertinent to my wireless?
[05:17] <budo_> so I can start over
[05:17] <pack^> haha. budo_ , sounds like fun but you might as well just reinstall to make sure you got everything.
[05:18] <pack^> If you don't know what you are doing it would be MUCH faster and there would be no errors.
[05:19] <budo_> I remember that 12.04 ubuntu working right out the box more or less, but they changed the size for it not to fit on CD
[05:20] <pack^> yeah. dvd or usb flash drive
[05:21] <dupingping> !unuty
[05:21] <dupingping> !unity
[05:21] <sixbangmex> budo_: would be cool if they had a ubuntu dumb terminal version
[05:21] <budo_> can you install from within xubuntu and have the entire installation run from ethernet connection?
[05:21] <dupingping> How to run desktop at xterm?
[05:21] <budo_> yup
[05:22] <budo_> startx?  duping
[05:23] <pack^> only if he has all of xorg installed
[05:23] <dupingping> oh
[05:23] <dupingping> budo_ startx is not installed.
[05:23] <dupingping> budo_ i want one like startkde.
[05:24] <pack^> dupingping: then why didn't you install kubuntu?
[05:24] <suriya> hi
[05:26] <kdworak> Hello guys can anyone help me with a bash script?
[05:26] <kdworak> i get a error on my if statement
[05:30] <kdworak> Hello guys can anyone help me with a bash script?
[05:33] <atronx> looking for help to modify gfx card 2d core clock to set a min of 500mhz , due to HDMI audio bug that happens when 2D clock speed dips. where can i find the config file to modify? amd radeon 7970
[05:36] <rajesh> Hello
[05:37] <rajesh> I am using dell inspirion 5520 and having problem with brightness.. Anybody please help
[05:37] <pack^> atronx: wouldn't that be in a amd forum?
[05:37] <rajesh> i have tried... but not getting help
[05:39] <atronx> pack^ plenty of windows tweak mods to do it , thought there might be a simple tweak to a config file I could make in ubuntu
[05:39] <rajesh> My graphics card is Intel hd 4000, I have tried xrandr, xbacklight, but all produces the same output...
[05:43] <dupingping> pack^ i want to run desktop with unity.
[05:43] <dupingping> pack^ i don't need any other,
[05:44] <dupingping> pack^ you may help me, i think.
[05:45] <kdworak> Hi guys
[05:45] <kdworak> VARIABLE=$(ps aux|awk '{print $4}'); if [ "${VARIABLE}" -gt "0.0" ]; then echo "${VARIABLE}"; fi
[05:46] <kdworak> can anyone tell me why this doesnt work
[05:46] <kdworak> bash script
[05:46] <kdworak> iptable: yo man u here?
[05:47] <kdworak> llutz: hey you online?
[05:51] <Gnea> kdworak: it only works if there's enough data being fed to it
[05:51] <kdworak> Gnea: What do u mean
[05:52] <Gnea> kdworak: do you understand what that script is trying to do?
[05:53] <kdworak> well i understand what I want it to do, thats about it
[05:53] <Gnea> please explain
[05:53] <kdworak> I can tell you that with that script im try to find the most cpu intensive proccesses and find their pid
[05:53] <Gnea> well
[05:53] <kdworak> so im definately missing the pid
[05:53] <Gnea> what you're actually getting are the most memory intensive processes... sort of
[05:54] <kdworak> but im also getting something i dont want
[05:54] <kdworak> yeah im getting all the CPU values
[05:54] <kdworak> even the 0.0
[05:55] <kdworak> the if statement -gt option only works on integers doesnt it...
[05:55] <Gnea> no, you're getting %MEM not %CPU. take a closer look at ps aux | head
[05:55] <Venoryk> Why is it so difficult to configure wireless via console?
[05:55] <Gnea> kdworak: ps aux | awk '{print $3}'  <-- ought to give you %CPU
[05:56] <kdworak> Gnea: Im sorry i must have did the typo out of rushing, I have it for cpu in my script
[05:56] <kdworak> yeah it should be 3
[05:56] <Gnea> kdworak: no problem
[05:56] <kdworak> but i guess i should be printing 1 and 3 to get pid and cpu
[05:56] <kdworak> still tho, i want it to print only the 2-3 most cpu intensive ones
[05:56] <Gnea> kdworak: but, if I understand what you're saying, you want the PIDs of those processes, yes?
[05:57] <kdworak> yes
[05:57] <kdworak> Gnea: yes
[05:57] <Gnea> okay
[05:57] <Gnea> kdworak: you're on the right track, but you're getting derailed too soon :)
[05:57] <Gnea> you need to keep that list somewhere
[05:57] <kdworak> Gnea: im a noob sys admin, i been at this for a couple days
[05:57] <Gnea> kdworak: understood, I've been in your shoes
[05:58] <kdworak> Gnea: anyway u could point in the right direction without giving me the anwser?
[05:58] <kdworak> lol
[05:58] <Gnea> kdworak: sure! :D
[05:58] <kdworak> Gnea: awesome
[05:58] <Venoryk> Anybody know how to configure wireless from cli?
[05:59] <Gnea> kdworak: hint: the print function in awk can print multiple parts of a single line simply by adding another delimiter
[05:59] <kdworak> Gnea: awk '{print $1, $3}'  like so???
[06:00] <Gnea> kdworak: try without the comma
[06:00] <Gnea> Venoryk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[06:00] <kdworak> Gnea: ok
[06:01] <kdworak> Gnea: now that I have 2 delimeters, the if statement will have to change to if [ "$3" -gt "0.0" ]  ????
[06:01] <kdworak> Gnea: or did i just say something stupid
[06:02] <Gnea> kdworak: no...
[06:03] <kdworak> Gnea: oh crap, pid and cpu is $2 and $3, so disregard that $1
[06:03] <Gnea> kdworak: you shouldn't need to change to "$3" (that's bad)
[06:03] <kdworak> well no my original scrip is this
[06:03] <Gnea> kdworak: also, you don't always have to use double-quotes in bash
[06:03] <kdworak> VARIABLE=$(ps aux|awk '{print $4}'); if [ "${VARIABLE}" -gt "0.0" ]; then echo "${VARIABLE}"; fi
[06:03] <Gnea> kdworak: there's a time and place for double, single and back quotes
[06:03] <Gnea> your if-statement, for instance, might not need the double quotes within
[06:03] <kdworak> Gnea: but will it still work with double quotes?
[06:04] <Gnea> kdworak: it might not
[06:04] <kdworak> Gnea: ill try it different ways
[06:04] <Gnea> okay
[06:06] <kdworak> it works with single quotes for the 0.0 but needs doubel for the ${VAR}
[06:07] <Gnea> sounds about right
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: i have a feeling my if statement is crap
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: the 0.0 doesnt work with -gt
[06:07] <Gnea> kdworak: I wouldn't say it's crap, but it could use a little work
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: it gives me all cpu values
[06:07] <Gnea> kdworak: maybe -gt isn't what you need
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: hmmm
[06:08] <Gnea> kdworak: you could try !=
[06:08] <Gnea> or =!
[06:08] <kdworak> Gnea: what are those?
[06:08] <Gnea> equals-not
[06:08] <kdworak> Gnea: interesting i will google it
[06:09] <Gnea> say if you wanted to look for all 0.0 values, you'd say == '0.0', but for all else, != '0.0'
[06:09] <Gnea> sort of like reverse grep
[06:10] <kdworak> Gnea: oh i see
[06:10] <Unit193> (You can actually grep for all lines not containing a line with -v too )
[06:10] <Gnea> Unit193: precisely.
[06:10] <kdworak> Gnea: ok slow down Unit haha
[06:10] <kdworak> greping for lines not containing a line???
[06:10] <kdworak> oh i get it
[06:11] <Gnea> :-)
[06:11] <kdworak> all lines not containing 0.0 ? so it prints all 0.1 0.2 and so on?
[06:11] <Gnea> exactly
[06:11] <kdworak> Gnea: yeah that would work
[06:11] <Gnea> then you could extract PIDs from there
[06:12] <kdworak> hmmm let me work it around and ill come back with questions
[06:12] <Gnea> sounds good
[06:16] <kdworak> Gnea: I just realized something my then statement makes no sense
[06:16] <kdworak> Gnea: im telling it to check for all lines other then 0.0 and then saying echo ${VAR} which just prints all the cpu values including the 0.0
[06:16] <kdworak> Gnea: correct?
[06:18] <Gnea> kdworak: yeah, you'll probably want to clean the list up. A for loop could do that.
[06:19] <kdworak> Gnea: ok thats the clue i needed, i know nothing of for loops so ill have to work thru some examples
[06:20] <Gnea> kdworak: this is a bit rudimentary... for i in `ps aux | awk '{print $3 $4}'`; do j=`echo $i `; echo "$j"; done
[06:21] <jeffsf> #teamacid
[06:21]  * Gnea hands jeffsf a /join
[06:21] <jeffsf> thank you
[06:21] <Gnea> :-)
[06:22] <kdworak> Gnea: lol rudimentary to you, new territory to me
[06:23] <horny-sama> terminal file name autocomplete does not work for me
[06:23] <horny-sama> type tab nothing happen
[06:23] <horny-sama> nevermind
[06:23] <horny-sama> got it
[06:23] <kdworak> horny-sama: haha
[06:23] <Gnea> kdworak: play around with it :-)
[06:24] <pranav> ifup -a command causes kernel panic, please help
[06:24] <kdworak> Gnea: so i dont need the if statement anymore?
[06:25] <Gnea> kdworak: you may or may not need it
[06:25] <kdworak> Gnea: haha ok
[06:25] <Gnea> pranav: what changed?
[06:25] <basil> Hi I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04. Yesterday, when I rebooted, it showed 2 fails- Starting configure network drive and Starting configure virtual network drive. Can anyone shed some light please?
[06:26] <pranav> i changed /etc/network/interface, to add wlan
[06:26] <pranav> auto
[06:26] <Gnea> pranav: well, do you know that doing so breaks NetworkManager and wicd?
[06:27] <pranav> Gnea:i do not have network manager, i am working in kubuntu emebedded image
[06:28] <horny-sama> after writing all those asm code I feel like I am in trash 80
[06:28] <Gnea> pranav: well ifup is a shell script, so maybe if you turn on debugging inside of it, it might tell you what's triggering the panic
[06:30] <pranav> Gnea:it is a binary, actually inside busybox
[06:30] <pranav> but the call is being made to it in /etc/init.d/networking.sh
[06:31] <Gnea> pranav: hmmm, are you trying to do wireless?
[06:32] <pranav> Gnea:it discovers, obtains the lease by AP, and just around when it tries to add DNS, says: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 011ee00d
[06:32] <pranav> Gnea:yes
[06:32] <pranav> Gnea:should i remove all wlan0 lines from etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:32] <pranav> i heard its good only for eth0
[06:32] <Gnea> pranav: do you happen to know what it's going to provide for the dns servers?
[06:33] <pranav> Gnea:yes, the dns serevr, the gateway, and the serverip, all are my Netgear router 192.168.1.1
[06:35] <pranav> actually during execution of ifup -a also gives me an IP of ..1.2 and lease, but discovery takes some time
[06:36] <Gnea> pranav: can you add your device's mac address to the router and make the ip static?
[06:37] <horny-sama> freenode is under nsa attack
[06:37] <kdworak> Gnea: Can i do multiple 'for' lines like so:  for i in `ps aux|awk '{print $2}'`; for c in `ps aux|awk '{print $3}'`; do ......
[06:37] <bazhang> horny-sama, thats not on topic here
[06:37] <horny-sama> fair enough
[06:37] <pranav> Gnea:oh.. will try to
[06:38] <Gnea> kdworak: that could get messy, it might be easier to just export each for loop to a function or variable
[06:38] <bb1988> hey
[06:39] <kdworak> Gnea: got it
[06:39] <bb1988> I need to cron something at 6:55 and 14:55
[06:39] <Gnea> kdworak: I prefer functions for that
[06:39] <bb1988> can someone send me a crontab example?
[06:40] <lhax> :D
[06:41] <basil> Hi my new install of Ubuntu 12.04 will ping www.google, it'll ping the gateway and it'll ping 8.8.8.8. But I can't access the Internet. Any ideas?
[06:42] <basil> The error in FF is "Unable to connect"
[06:43] <lhax> test client
[06:43] <lhax> http://189.228.44.80:3000/
[06:43] <lhax>  Join #Ubuntu
[06:43] <pranav> Gnea:i remove the line "ifup -a" from the etc/init.d/networking.sh script and when it booted, did it manually.. seems working, can ping :D
[06:43] <pranav> thanks
[06:43] <lhax> :/
[06:43] <Gnea> pranav: cheers
[06:46] <pranav> Gnea: yup, but can't rely more on hit/trials, is there a good book or so, on linux/ubuntu stuffs?
[06:46] <bb1988> anyone know?
[06:46] <pranav> *resource
[06:52] <kdworak> Gnea: Can I make variables out of the functions i make?
[06:54] <Gnea> kdworak: you could..
[07:02] <kdworak> Gnea: im stuck, i have figured something out tho, ps aux|awk '{print $3}'|grep -v 0.0|sort -n|tail -3  gives me the 3 most intensive cpu values... but thats where it stops
[07:04] <basil> Anyone got ideas for troubleshooting "unable to connect" error in FF. I can ping most destinations - but can't access Internet
[07:04] <pack^> basil: is your dns working?
[07:05] <basil> how do i tell ...sorry?
[07:07] <pack^> basil: open browser and put http://50.23.75.44 and see if it connects
[07:08] <basil> unbale to connect
[07:08] <basil> unable
[07:08] <pack^> basil: my bad. gave you a bad ip
[07:10] <Gnea> kdworak: you got me wondering... it's possible that we're trying to over-engineer this
[07:10] <pack^> basil: try this one http://217.107.217.167/
[07:10] <Gnea> kdworak: you should look into the -o argument to the ps command
[07:11] <basil> unable to connect
[07:11] <kdworak> Gnea: ok i will
[07:13] <pack^> basil: if you can ping 82.103.136.226 but firefox won't connect using that ip then you must have a port problem or firewall problem.
[07:15] <basil> pack^>I can ping the IP....but FF returns "Unable to connect still"
[07:15] <blahsphemer> x
[07:16] <basil> I've tested port 80...shows it's open
[07:16] <blahsphemer> I am helping someone port an app from windows to linux
[07:16] <blahsphemer> Is there an equivalent for KeWaitForSingleObject in linux?
[07:16] <pack^> basil: there is something blocking ff. Not sure what. Don't really have time to walk through it with you.
[07:17] <basil> thanks for your responses...Appreciate it
[07:17] <pack^> sorry not more help
[07:17] <basil> ongoing battle!!
[07:17] <blahsphemer> Can I be asking kernel dev questions here?
[07:22] <kdworak> Gnea: ok so the -o option i can specify which columns will get displayed correct?
[07:22] <Gnea> kdworak: yes.
[07:22] <kdworak> like this ps -o %C %p ?
[07:23] <Gnea> more like this: ps -eo pid,comm,%cpu
[07:23] <blahsphemer> How can I make a usermode thread sleep till a kernel mode thread decides to wake it up and send some data to it?
[07:23] <Gnea> kdworak: but you can put them in any order you want
[07:24] <Gnea> kdworak: and you can add/remove whatever you want
[07:24] <kdworak> Gnea: nice
[07:24] <Gnea> indeed
[07:24] <kdworak> Gnea: might not need any for loops or functions after all
[07:24] <blahsphemer> Anyone?
[07:25] <Gnea> kdworak: haha yeah - good stuff to know, though
[07:26] <kdworak> Gnea: can u think of a beginner sys admin script i could write that would use for loops and functions?
[07:28] <kdworak> Gnea: this is what im going with ps -eo pid,pcpu|grep -v 0.0|sort -n|tail -3
[07:29] <kdworak> I had this but its too bulky: ps aux|awk '{print $2 $3}'|grep -v 0.0|sort -n|tail -3
[07:32] <kdworak> Gnea: you still there?
[07:48] <kdworak> Gnea: you still here?
[07:49] <PENlS-Wrinkle> When will Mate 1.8 repository be available?
[07:56] <ikonia> ned_flanders: this channel deals with ubuntu support, does your question have something to do with ubuntu ?
[07:56] <lars_> no, sorry ikonia, that link was not helpful
[07:56] <ned_flanders> yes, i am using the web browser in ubuntu and i can't seem to be able to join codewars
[07:56] <lars_> it kept referring to a theme tab, which I do not have
[07:56] <lars_> Iḿ using Kubuntu 12.04, so I do not have a theme tab
[07:56] <ikonia> lars_: that was for the current kde 4.12 release, - change the search parameter to match the kde version you have
[07:56] <lars_> Search perimeter for what?
[07:56] <ikonia> for the kde version to match the same kde version you are using
[07:56] <ikonia> if something has changed in kde 4.12 (that search) from your version, then searching against your version should resolve that
[07:56] <lars_> oh, you mean I need to do a search for ẗhemes?
[07:56] <ikonia> no
[07:56] <ikonia> I've just linked you to the documentation on how to change themes/icons - that documentation is for kde 4.12, if you are not using 4.12, checking those same documents against the version you are using should explain what to do
[07:57] <lars_> ok, you mean I need to use my built in KDE help files to find ¨themes¨, ikonia?
[07:58] <ikonia> lars_: I'm sorry, I can't be any clearer than I've just been, "I've just linked you to the official documentation for 4.12 - if you are not using 4.12 referencing those same documents against the version you are using will give you the info"
[07:58] <lars_> uh, right, ok, I guess
[07:59] <lars_> I¨ll look at the link again, if that helps
[08:00] <lars_> nope, it did not help, there is only one version on that website, ikonia
[08:00] <ikonia> there isn't
[08:01] <lars_> this is strange, no one uses Kubuntu 12.04 any more?
[08:01] <ikonia> many people do
[08:01] <lars_> Is Kubuntu 12.04 no longer supported?
[08:01] <ikonia> it's supported
[08:02] <lars_> I will try docs.kde.org and look for themes tab for 12.04, may be that will work....
[08:02] <ikonia> thats the doc I've just given you
[08:03] <lars_> so, kubuntu 12.04 has no themes tab, and Kubuntu 12.04 has no help files related to the themes tab?
[08:04] <ikonia> who said that ?
[08:04] <lars_> I did
[08:04] <lars_> Sorry, I assumed that
[08:04] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello guys
[08:05] <lars_> are you saying Kubuntu 12.04 does have a themes tab somewhere?
[08:05] <ikonia> I've not said that at all
[08:06] <lars_> ok, then my assumption that Kubuntu 12.04 does not have a themes tab would be correct
[08:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Is there ANY possibility that after deleting my /home partition and moving the contents of /home onto the primary partition mounted to / that I have issues connecting to ssh to a remote host?  http://pastie.org/8886228
[08:06] <ikonia> I don't believe it is
[08:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what's the actual problem
[08:07] <lars_> however, Kubuntu 12.04 does have KDE help files
[08:07] <lars_> Somewhere in those help files is a reference to the trash icon
[08:07] <Armo> Hi all. How  do I get device information (e.g.: brand, model, etc.) via the command line?
[08:07] <lars_> that is what I need to find
[08:07] <ikonia> Armo: dmidecode ?
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am having this issue every single kernel upgrade https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1289197
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello ikonia, it seems that everyone else can connect to that ip to ssh just me, so I'm thinking either ip blacklisted or originally though some public-key was messed up in the proccess of moving the home folder
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> I will keep investigating
[08:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: whats the actual problem
[08:10] <Armo> ikonia, Yup! Thanks man.
[08:11] <lars_> Ok, ikonia, thanks for trying to help me, at this point, I think it is safe to assume that the trash icon cannot be changed on Kubuntu 12.04, so I will just keep using the strange page icon I have now.  At least I tried.  Spending an hour tryig to fix a trash icon is a waste of time.  This is why I like Windows more.
[08:11] <ikonia> lars_: wrong assumption, but "ok"
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> Hey ikonia :D If you are around and have time I would love to get my kernel / driver issue sorted out :) I keep filing bug reports :( silly me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1289197
[08:11] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: /boot/config-3.2.0-60-generic: No such file or directory
[08:11] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: thats the key
[08:11] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's because you are using PAE
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> so how do I fix this
[08:12] <lars_> The trash icon on Windows XP works.  The trash icon on Kubuntu 12.04 is pretty lame.  Thatś what I learned today.
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: which kernel should I use?
[08:12] <ikonia> lars_: ok, great
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: just the generic without the pae? for the same kernel number?
[08:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: well, it's looking for the "generic" kernel, but looking at your info you've got PAE installed, so when it checks the kernel version it won't find -generic because it's got pae
[08:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: do uname -a now
[08:13] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: lets see what it sees
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> yea you are correct generic-pae
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> so how I remove the linux image for generic pae and just get a generic of the same number?
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> for the kernel?\
[08:13] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: so the script does something like if [ -x /boot/(`uname -r`) ] ;
[08:14] <ikonia> obviously as you have pae it's not going to find the "generic" string it's expecting
[08:14] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: looks like a package bug (without going deep into it)
[08:14] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: if you open the package manager purge the pae kenrel and reboot, I'd put a bet it works "ok"
[08:14] <Psil0Cybin> okay :D
[08:14] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[08:18] <thewatcher> brand new to ubuntu and linux in general. any recommendations for software to download?
[08:18] <ikonia> just have a look around try to do what you want to do, can't do it, ask how to do it
[08:18] <Ben64> thewafflecaust: depends what you want to do
[08:18] <kdworak> Can anyone think of a beginner sys admin bash script ideas that I can learn to use for loops and functions
[08:18] <ikonia> no point downloading stuff just for the sake of it
[08:18] <Ben64> thewatcher: ^
[08:18] <ikonia> kdworak: make something up
[08:20] <Armo> My system always starts with extremely low brightness. How can I change that?
[08:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:21] <cristian_c> How can I export layers from inkscape?
[08:21] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[08:21] <ikonia> try the inkscape channel ?
[08:21] <cristian_c> ok
[08:27] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: thank you, I got the same kernel but just generic without pae and it worked! now using 3.2.0-60-generic.
[08:27] <Psil0Cybin> what is the difference between generic and generic pae?
[08:27] <Psil0Cybin> I got it via synaps and it worked fine, and I removed the generic-pae kernel, so I should be fine? If I keep doing this?
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's not  technical problem, it's a packaging problem
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: and it's just the names
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: how much ram do you have in the machine ?
[08:28] <Psil0Cybin> 2GB its a really poor machine
[08:28] <someHuman> Hello!
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: perfectly fine then
[08:28] <Psil0Cybin> just for traveling
[08:28] <someHuman> Is this where most Fedora people are?
[08:28] <someHuman> Lol
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> yea that is what i thought but just as a FYI what is the difference between generic and generic-pae?
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> just so I know
[08:29] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's basically extened memory support 4+gb
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> ah
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> alright :D
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> so pae = 4+gb?
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> 64bit perhap?
[08:29] <ikonia> bottom line = yes
[08:30] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: if you can't use 64bit and have over 4gb, pae
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> ahhh
[08:30] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: pretty much never used these days by most
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> interesting kk ty
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> lol you have no idea how long I have been struggeling with this issue for nothing
[08:31] <Psil0Cybin> you rock ikonia :D
[08:31] <ikonia> no problem
[08:31] <Psil0Cybin> slowly I am learning more and more about linux
[08:33] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[08:33] <monkwitdafunk> Does tvtime need pulseaudio?
[08:35] <someHuman> Psil0Cybin: Good! ;)
[08:35] <someHuman> ljsoftnet: Is that Ubuntu TV?
[08:35] <someHuman> Like, Ubuntu on your television?
[08:35] <ikonia> no, it's a tv app
[08:35] <ljsoftnet> someHuman no, its just a tv app
[08:35] <someHuman> Ah lol.
[08:35] <someHuman> What channels have you gone into so far?
[08:35] <someHuman> Is it good?
[08:35] <ikonia> someHuman: it's worth checking the topic of this channel
[08:36] <ikonia> someHuman: this channel is used for ubuntu support discussion
[08:36] <monkwitdafunk> Try looking up the info from the repositories on a gui frontend
[08:36] <ikonia> someHuman: there are generic linux channels such as ##linux, or chat channels such as #defocus, but this one is for ubuntu discussion only
[08:36] <someHuman> Ok, ty.
[08:37] <Uragan> hi
[08:37] <Uragan> all
[08:38] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[08:39] <Uragan> can you help me? i have a little problem - i`am using ubuntu 12.04 serv LTS. Oxine playing videos, amixer controls audio, and amixer says me in logs: "amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Line',0"
[08:40] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server. It seems there is a problem with the controllers hanging. dmesg-> http://pastebin.com/XCcfsB87
[08:40] <marcus_> any suggestions on how to proceed?
[08:41] <df3d2> I have a big problem trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on a gigabyte 990FXA-ud3 if I don't have IOMMU enabled in bios, It wont boot to the live-session, but if i have it disabled, I have no usb/kb mouse in the live session!!!!
[08:42] <Ben64> df3d2: unless i'm mistaken, "don't have it enabled" == "disabled"
[08:42] <df3d2> Ben64: so its like this
[08:42] <TomyWork> unless it's a tristate checkbox
[08:42] <df3d2> Ben64: if I have IOMMU "disabled" in bios, I can boot to the ubuntu installer
[08:43] <df3d2> Ben64: but, I have no usb kb/mouse functionality
[08:43] <df3d2> Ben64: if I enable IOMMU It never boots to the live-session, it says it can't find it
[08:44] <Ben64> sounds like you should leave it "disabled" then, and try another keyboard
[08:45] <df3d2> Ben64: there is nothing wrong with the keyboard
[08:45] <Ben64> ok, so you should try another keyboard
[08:46] <df3d2> plz don't treat me like a moron this kb works fine I just pulled it from another ubuntu machine
[08:46] <Ben64> listen. this is basic troubleshooting. if a keyboard isn't working, try another keyboard.
[08:46] <df3d2> lol
[08:48] <TomyWork> you eliminate potential error sources so you can focus on the rest in the chain
[08:48] <SASDOE> hey guys I succesfully installed b43 for wireless and can scan, but not join a network..
[08:48] <df3d2> k other kb doesnt work
[08:48] <df3d2> can we move on now
[08:49] <SASDOE> how can I fix this?
[08:49] <df3d2> nvm figured it out my self
[08:50] <df3d2> problem was ubuntu wasn't working with the usb3 ports on the board
[08:50] <df3d2> put the flash drive in a usb2 port and it works now, kb works with IOMMU=enabled
[08:52] <df3d2> a lesson in basic troubleshooting is when you pull a working component out of one machine it is probably still working 10 seconds later
[08:52] <SASDOE> aslo after a while I can no longer scan.. Driver is correctly set
[08:54] <SASDOE> So no one knows anything about wireless?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|SASDOE,
[08:55] <SASDOE> cfhowlett: I come from there, where I have followed instructions to the letter. Sorry for the impatience though!
[08:58] <intok> please tell me theres a way to get Synaptic back... Ubuntu software center is terrible
[08:58] <b0x> think its time to give up on ubuntu :( back on windows.. wireless network (and related sharing) works without issue & dropouts, nvidia gfx works correctly..
[08:58] <SASDOE> Hmm grepping b43 in lsmod returns a b43 driver and a bcma, do I need both? If not how come modprobe tells me bcma is in use?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> intok, run a terminal: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:59] <SASDOE> as well as mac80211 cg80211 and ssb. Do I need all of these? Or should I blacklist some?
[09:05] <EleanorEllis> Good morning. I was happily running Ubuntu 12.04 and I was prompted by Upgrade Manager to upgrade to 12.10. This went OK and then I was prompted to upgrade to 13.04. A number of packages didn't install, among them Kismet, which I understand is a network monitor which I thought I had uninstalled already, and grub-pc. I don't remember the others and I don't know how to find a log of what went wrong with the install. Now having rebooted, I 
[09:06] <joobie> ubuntu boots up, purple screen, white ubuntu logo.. but just sits there..
[09:06] <joobie> any ideas how to get beyond this?
[09:06] <joobie> i can SSH to it even though it's stuck there
[09:07] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, 13.04 has already reached end of life - i.e. it's not supported
[09:07] <EleanorEllis> My only reason to upgrade at all was in the hope that wifi might be a bit more reliable. On 12.04 I found that it would frequently keep asking me to re-enter the wifi passphrase. Sorry 13.10 not 13.04
[09:08] <Ben64> 12.10 doesn't upgrade directly to 13.10
[09:09] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Well, it just prompted me to upgrade directly to 13.10 from 12.10. I was surprised because I thought I would have to go through 13.04 first.
[09:09] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, *surprised me too*
[09:09] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Sorry I meant I upgraded to 13.10 not 13.04
[09:10] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: It didn't give me the choice to upgrade to 13.04
[09:10] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: can you pastebin "lsb_release -a; cat /etc/issue; sudo apt-get update"
[09:13] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, everyone can connect on port 22 on that ip address, I am the only one who cannot.Someone else namped and saw the ssh port open, my nmap shows port 22 filtered and the connection times out
[09:13] <Wiz_KeeD> So either something is wrong on my box, or the sysadmin is evil and blocked my ip and is lieing to me, which I doubt
[09:14] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/HTp4BU8c
[09:14] <Wiz_KeeD> And I do not know how to diagnose this
[09:15] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: strange. so whats the problem?
[09:15] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[09:15] <SASDOE> Have you tried from another ip? And with another wireless card or by changing your mac address? If problem persits definetly a sysadmin issue
[09:16] <SASDOE> EleanorEllis: That was to you!
[09:16] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Bear in mind I am running from a live CD as I can't log in from my installation
[09:16] <SASDOE> Wiz_KeeD: I meant you
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone provide help with this?
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh, sorry
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> SASDOE, http://pastie.org/8887282
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> SASDOE, other ip's (people work)
[09:17] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: your first message in this channel was cut off, don't see a problem anywhere. (except you just said you can't log in)
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> SASDOE, what can the mac have to do with it?
[09:17] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: seems like a firewall
[09:17] <EleanorEllis> SASDOE: I don't own another wireless card. My IP address is given by dhcp from the wifi router
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Ben64, I KNOW RIGHT?!
[09:17] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup. How should I proceed? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[09:17] <Ben64> so... check that..
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> the port is filetered, and other nmaps show it as open
[09:17] <Ben64> filtered = firewall
[09:18] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Upgrade manager prompted me to upgrade my distribution from 12.04 to 12.10
[09:18] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: "Now having rebooted, I" is the last part from your first message
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Ben64, I also tried connecting with a app from my phone using wireless and it didn't work
[09:18] <SASDOE> EleanorEllis: sudo apt-get install macchanger then read the man, change the mac and try again
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Once I removed the wireless it started working
[09:18] <EleanorEllis> I have been resisting this for some time as from experience upgrades tend to be difficult and time consuming and I didn't want to reinstall all my packages.
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Ben64, could it be my service provider doing this?
[09:19] <EleanorEllis> I only upgraded because wifi is unreliable and I hoped perhaps this might have been fixed on later versions.
[09:19] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: probably. in any circumstance it doesn't seem like an Ubuntu issue
[09:19] <ciss> hi, i noticed that "cd --" takes me to the current user's home directory (equivalent to "cd ~"). where can i find more documentation on that argument?
[09:19] <SASDOE> also to change IP you could request another ip thx to ifconfig
[09:19] <SASDOE> again read the man to know how
[09:20] <SASDOE> EleanorEllis: But i agree this isn't a ubuntu problem
[09:20] <EleanorEllis> The upgrade to to 12.10 went OK. Then I was prompted to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10. After this upgrade, I can't login. I type my username and password and then it just sits there. So now I have booted from a liveCD
[09:21] <ciss> ah, nvm. it's equivalent to "cd" without any arguments
[09:21] <EleanorEllis> And I wonder if it is worthwhile trouble shooting this, especially as the next LTS is around the corner or just restoring my backup of 12.04 or even 12.10 and either putting up with the wifi issues or trying to fix them.
[09:22] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, LTS only means less frequent/intense headaches - but YMMV.   Consider your usage needs.
[09:24] <EleanorEllis> SASDOE: What happens with the wifi is sometimes it won't connect or drops the connection and repeatedly asks for the wifi passphrase. Obviously at this stage I can't request another IP as until I get wifi connection, I don't have an IP. Oddly enough this behaviour continues even after I connect with a cable. It also happens when I use my phone as a portable wifi hotspot, after I have turned off the wifi hotspot. It's an irritation rather
[09:25] <EleanorEllis> Especially as I can't remember them, except that the person kept telling me over and over again that LTS is NOT more stable
[09:25] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: What does YMMV mean?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !ymmv
[09:26] <EleanorEllis> !wfm
[09:28] <airtonix> eh, living in a warzone works for me
[09:28] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: The person was telling me that everything that makes it into the repositories is stable, unless it's marked as such, so my reluctance to upgrade every six months in the belief that things would be more stable was misplaced.
[09:29] <EleanorEllis> So anyway, my original question, having upgraded first from 12.04 to12.10 and then from 12.10 to 13.10 and now I can't login. Is it worth trying to fix or should I just restore my backup of 12.04 or 12.10?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, I'm reluctant to engage in "religious" debate, but consider: the interim releases are now supported for 9 months.  NINE.  I upgrade every 2 years with on LTS.  If you absolutely need the latest, greatest shiny stuff, I suppose it's worth it to get every release.  If not ...
[09:30] <gordonjcp> EleanorEllis: "stable" means "does not change", not "does not crash" ;-)
[09:31] <cfhowlett> :)
[09:31] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, well said!
[09:31] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I don't need the latest shiny stuff. That's why I tend to stick to LTS releases and put off upgrading until I can't avoid it. However, the person was suggesting it to sort out some other problems
[09:32] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, understood.  Can't advise as (lucky me) my wifi works just fine with my 2009 Dell 1545.
[09:32] <EleanorEllis> I would be happy to stick on whatever release I am on for ever unless there is some good reason to change  and just get secruity updates and bugfixes
[09:32] <makara> what's happening here? : http://postimg.org/image/7yns6gdnv/
[09:33] <makara> have I messed up my PGP keys maybe?
[09:33] <EleanorEllis> I was previously on 8.04 for a very long time. I only installed 12.04 when I bought a new machine.
[09:33] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, you do sound like an LTS type candidate.  xmas comes next month!!!
[09:34] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: It sounds like it is likely to take longer than it is worth to sort out why 13.10 wont log in then. Probably best to go back to 12.04
[09:34] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, and then jump to 14.04 in April?  Bet!
[09:35] <Guest52358> Hello
[09:35] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I will prbably wait a lot longer than that until something is broken that can't be fixed! I would rather wait till the bugs have been ironed out
[09:35] <Guest52358> I need help with mscorefonts.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, best of luck.  My 12.04.4 still likes me ...
[09:36] <Guest52358> I install it but after in Libreoffice I cant see then+
[09:36] <Guest52358> them
[09:36] <Guest52358> Can you help me, please?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, how did you install the fonts?
[09:36] <Guest52358> I used some instalation options by internet but dont work
[09:36] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I would still be on 8.04 if if supported my hardware!
[09:36] <Ben64> 8.04 isn't supported though
[09:36] <Guest52358> From the ubuntu center
[09:37] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, if you're still using "legacy" hardware, consider lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:37] <Guest52358> I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[09:37] <Guest52358> LTS
[09:38] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: For a long time I was prevented from moving from 8.04 because that was the last version to support my twin head graphics card. Now I have a relatively new machine, that's not a problem and it seemed sensible to try 12.04 on it.
[09:38] <EleanorEllis> So I am not runnning legacy hardware anymore
[09:38] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, :)
[09:38] <leeyaa> hello
[09:38] <leeyaa> how to find out what is overwriting my resolv.conf with an extra ip address
[09:38] <leeyaa> ive looked in interfaces file
[09:38] <leeyaa> there is no such ip
[09:39] <leeyaa> nvm i found it
[09:39] <leeyaa> it was in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original
[09:39] <Guest52358> I ask again.
[09:40] <EleanorEllis> How do I copy the path from nautilus on Ubuntu 13.10? The view menu has gone.
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, logout and login, then run libreoffice.  if that fails, reboot
[09:40] <Guest52358> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and need to install the mscorefonts. I install it from ubuntu software center but when I open LibreOffice dont appear the fonts.
[09:41] <Guest52358> Thanks cfhowlett. I did, but dont work
[09:42] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, try Arial font
[09:42] <Guest52358> I used this in terminal: sudo fc-cache -f -v but dont work
[09:42] <marcus_> cfhowlett: you seem like a knowledable individual, you know anything that culd help with my problem?
[09:42] <marcus_> :)
[09:42] <Guest52358> I need arial, verdana and tahoma fonts
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, do any of those appear in libreoffice???
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !ask|marcus_,
[09:43] <Guest52358> No
[09:43] <Guest52358> Only appears the Ubuntu fonts
[09:45] <Ben64> Guest52358: do they appear in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[09:45] <marcus_> that's the best stfu-message I've ever read ^^ I'll keep googleing and ask in the channel in a while. thanks :)
[09:45] <Guest52358> One moment
[09:46] <Ben64> marcus_: no.. it means if you want someone to answer your question, you do in fact need to ask it, also, please refrain from obscene acronyms
[09:46] <clement> hi
[09:46] <Guest44929> yo
[09:46] <cfhowlett> Guest5258, in a terminal:     ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[09:46] <Guest52358> No. The folder is empty
[09:47] <Ben64> Guest52358: then you didn't install the fonts properly
[09:47] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, either you installed the fonts to the wrong location or you didn't install
[09:47] <df3d2> with a chroot, what causes the command "grub-install /dev/sdx" to say grub-install no such command ?
[09:47] <Guest52358> but when I install, the terminal message tell me that they are install
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, it's ok to reinstall.
[09:48] <Guest52358> How?
[09:48] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[09:48] <Guest52358> I reinstall two or tree times ago. And dont appear
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, doesn't matter how many times if you're doing it wrong each time ...
[09:49] <Guest52358> I used this order in terminal. Dont work
[09:49] <df3d2> with a chroot, what causes the command "grub-install /dev/sdx" to say grub-install no such command ?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, do it again, note the error messages
[09:49] <Guest52358> ok
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, and if you did NOT agree to the msft licensing agreement?  no installation
[09:51] <Guest52358> The final message tell me: "ttf-corefonts-installer is instlled in his more recent version"
[09:52] <DeusDeceit> Hello guyz, I have 2 Graphics Cards on my laptop,  discrete and  embeded, AMD Radeon 8xxx m and Intel HD 4000. My question is, how can I see the GPU temperature? I installed lm-sensors, i did the sensors-detect thingy, but I don't get any indication for GPU temperature. Does anyone know how to do this?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, did you accept the terms and conditions?
[09:52] <geirha> Guest52358: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:52] <Guest52358> the first time that I install, Yes. The follow times dont ask me.
[09:53] <cfhowlett> Guest52358,  see geirha's post ^^^
[09:55] <Guest52358> Thanks cfhowlett. But for me is more easy reinstall ubuntu again and repeat the process.
[09:55] <Guest52358> Bye
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, reinstalling the entire OS just to install fonts is questionable
[09:55] <cfhowlett> ... aaaaaaand he's gone.
[09:56] <EleanorEllis> Guest52358: I think reinstalling ubuntu just for fonts will take much longer than sorting it out here
[09:56] <cfhowlett> geirha, good suggestion.  my next thought would have been a purge/reinstall.
[09:56] <MetalWolf> Hi, I have an HP desktop which had windows 7 installed on it and I have installed ubuntu onto it.  I was forced to manually partition as it would not allow me to install it with automatic resizing.  I discovered that the system will boot into ubuntu using UEFI and windows 7 if i tell it to boot from the hard drive.  I have looked into using boot-repair.  This now allows me to see a grub menu from the hard drive boot but the only options are ubuntu.  The past
[09:58] <EleanorEllis> I do wish the standard response from Windows support people wasn't so often "First reboot and if that doesn't work, reinstall windows". So irritating and it means when new people come here they are reluctant to actually work through the problem if there isn't a magic bullet.
[09:59] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, *most* people are far from ready to be responsible system admins (I say from from Beijing where windows XP is STILL the default OS)
[10:03] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Well, starting with linux is definitely a learning curve. But hopefully people learn, not just the tech stuff but how to get help effectively. It took me a long time to know how to ask a question and I still get it wrong. And I still get frustrated with Ubuntu. But when I get frustrated I remind myself that at least with free software there IS help and people willing to talk me through my problems whereas with windows there ge
[10:03] <EleanorEllis> Sorry if this is off topic
[10:04] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Anyway, I have now restored my backup of 12.04. Fingers crossed that it restores and boots properly. Signing off for now
[10:04] <JB> Hi guys, i have easy question.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, no worries.  as far as learning curve, it's incremental.  the more problems you solve, the more you'll learn.  stay in this channel and observe.  sooner or later, someone will ask a question YOU can solve.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> JB, ask
[10:04] <JB> is it possible to conntact people from this thread from forum? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-783727.html
[10:04] <g0mib0y>   love to use Linux at work but there are unfortunanltly still applications where there are no Linux equals like Cisco SoftPhone and desktop agent. Anyone know of any Linux replacemenst for these? Tried to run in wine but didn't work
[10:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, sysadmin found in firewall: iprope_in_check() check failed, drop what could that mean?
[10:05] <g105b> Here comes the most newbie question of the day: How do I turn num lock on?
[10:05] <JB> (without register?)
[10:06] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Oh, I have been able to help people now and again. Just most of the time, if I'm working on something else I don't have the attention to be able to watch the channel and what I am working on at the same time.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, :)  wide screen, multi-tasking.  I run xchat in the right 1/4 of my screen.
[10:07] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: I know it's a dirty solution but you could try running it in a virtual machine running windows. I know, you may very well not want to do this, and of course it might not even work. Hopefully someone else will know of an alternative. Have you tried googling for a linux replacement?
[10:09] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I have one very wide screen (2560 x 1440) and a second at 1280 x 1024. Still, when I am focussed on one thing, I don't see what is going on in the channel. And when I am coding, I find that even what I have is not enough screen real estate for the multiple windows I have open.
[10:09] <EleanorEllis> g105b: Press the numlock key
[10:10] <g0mib0y> EleanorEllis: yeah there is non, only other Linux ipphone replacements. Will try this though, could be worth it. hopefully sound will work. Waiting for us to change ipphone provider so we might not be stuck with this solution. And after we go over to Google mail and hangouts Lync wont be an issue either
[10:10] <EleanorEllis> Back in a few minutes after rebooting, hopefully everything works OK. Wish me luch :)
[10:10] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, good *luch*
[10:10] <g105b> EleanorEllis: where ? http://i.imgur.com/K2C9q26.jpg
[10:10] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: Do you have specific hardware you need to work with? Like Cisco desktop phones?
[10:11] <cfhowlett> g105b, read your manual.  I don't see the num lock key, so it might not be on your model.
[10:12] <g0mib0y> EleanorEllis: No we use softphone from Cisco. That is the biggest problem. The desktop agent has a web replacemnet that I can use but the Softphone program only runs in Windows
[10:12] <cfhowlett> g0mib0y, google hangouts, skype, hell, even bbm is multiple platform capable ...
[10:13] <EleanorEllis> g105b: It might be some combination of keys perhaps. I can't read the legends on the keys. Do you have a square on photo or can you take one?
[10:13] <g105b> EleanorEllis: I'll take one
[10:13] <EleanorEllis> g105b: But reading the manual is probably key. You might need to download it if you can't find it or contact logitech support.
[10:14] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: Who do you need the softphone to communicate with, just internally within your company or with the rest of the world?
[10:14] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: And if there is a web replacement then could you use that?
[10:15] <SHOTbyGUN> so I just installed ubuntu, but I am confused about NVidia propietary drivers, I suppose I should not use nouveau for gaming? and the propietary drivers list does not include the latest 331 for some reason? and also what is the difference with the -update addition to the driver?
[10:15] <EleanorEllis> g105b: I will be back in a few minutes. I need to reboot
[10:15] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: You can wish me good *lunch* if you prefer :P
[10:18] <rwsq1> SHOTbyGUN, you can try nouveau, apparently there are improvements to it all the time. It probably depends on what kind of gaming you do.
[10:19] <SHOTbyGUN> rwsql ok, I'll try it out :o
[10:19] <olalonde> hi all. I just built a server machine for home but i dont have any monitor.. just a macbook air laptop. would it be possible to set up the server inside a virtual machine and write the virtual machine image to a USB stick and boot from there?
[10:20] <JNixx> Can't you connect the machine to a TV?
[10:20] <olalonde> no :(
[10:20] <olalonde> no tv haha
[10:20] <olalonde> i do have a monitor actually but it uses displayport and i dont have a VDI/vga adapter
[10:21] <olalonde> i think i could set up a live linux on a USB stick that automatically launches sshd ?
[10:21] <JNixx> That should work. I've never done it but it sounds possible in theory
[10:21] <rockyrock> is there a shortcuts that delete the current line in terminal?
[10:21] <rwsq1> SHOTbyGUN, if nouveau works for you it'll make your life easier than if you have to use the proprietary nvidia drivers
[10:22] <rockyrock> and also to move back and forwth in a long written line on terminal
[10:23] <SHOTbyGUN> rockyrock, to fast move in written line, use CTRL + arrow left and right, to move from word to word, or use HOME or END buttons to get to end of line
[10:23] <SASDOE> hey all still got wireless issues. I noticed that although I blacklisted bcma it still loads along with b43, and I suspect this could be the reason why although my card is marked as up I can scan a single network
[10:23] <SASDOE> so why is it that although I blacklisted a module it still loads after a reboot
[10:24] <rockyrock> SHOTbyGUN: CTRL+arrorw doesn't works
[10:24] <SASDOE> and does anyone know how I can get this b43 to work??
[10:24] <SHOTbyGUN> rockyrock, it always works for me :o
[10:25] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup. How should I proceed? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[10:27] <SASDOE> actually I've also blacklisted ssb mac80211 and a couple others and they all key loading
[10:27] <SASDOE> s/key/keep/
[10:27] <SASDOE> any ideas why?
[10:27] <rockyrock> i"m reading bash manual: "forward-word (M-f)" what does M stand for?
[10:28] <ikonia> rockyrock: try #bash
[10:28] <rockyrock> "end-of-line (C-e)" C is for control
[10:28] <SASDOE> rockyrock: alt
[10:28] <SASDOE> usually
[10:28] <rockyrock> sorry I left
[10:28] <rockyrock> I saw someone gave an answer
[10:28] <SASDOE> rockyrock: alt
[10:28] <rockyrock> SASDOE: why M for alt?
[10:29] <SASDOE> its m for meta
[10:29] <SASDOE> Because it can also be (at least in emacs) escape but not held down
[10:31] <hdon> hi all :) i'm using Ubuntu 12.04. in the past i've tried other desktop environments on this system (like fluxbox! oh man.. blast from the past!) and in order to get my GTK+ applications to appear "normal" I was told to run gnome-settings-daemon, and that fixed the issue. now, however, that makes no different. even in the Unity desktop which seems to run gnome-settings-daemon (and gnome-keyring-daemon, nauilus etc.) automatically, my GTK+ a
[10:31] <hdon> pplications are still "ugly." can anyone advise? maybe tell me where to find the settings that change the appearance of GTK+ applications?
[10:31] <ismaelbalzan> hello everybody
[10:32] <ismaelbalzan> someone can help me?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !ask| ismaelbalzan
[10:32] <hdon> it's worth noting that i have a second symptom: my keyboard's volume control keys no longer adjust my volume!
[10:33] <hdon> could this be a dbus problem?
[10:34] <hdon> how normally do XF86AudioRaiseVolume keys work to change my volume anyhow? what program/configuration is responsible?
[10:35] <JB> Hi, is it possible to conntact people from this forum without register there?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-783727.html
[10:35] <ikonia> JB: no
[10:35] <JB> :(
[10:35] <hdon> hmm.. i checked in gnome-control-center and my volume keys appear to be set correctly
[10:36] <SASDOE> Does anyone know a channel where I might find help for my wireless issues?
[10:36] <ikonia> SASDOE: if its in relation to ubuntu here
[10:38] <SASDOE> ikonia: Ok, I can't scan for networks, have driver b43, no related errors in dmesg, shows it loading fine as does lsmod, iwconfig shows a wlan0 and nm-tool shows proper driver in use but no wireless access points
[10:38] <ikonia> SASDOE: just ask the channel and wait for a response
[10:38] <SASDOE> Don't really know what to do anymore
[10:38] <JB> SASDOE: can you run iwlist wlan0 scanning
[10:39] <SASDOE> wlan0 No scan results
[10:39] <biledemon> is there a way from the command line to easily check when a package was last updated?
[10:40] <JB> and is it really wlan0?
[10:40] <bgboo> hi
[10:41] <SASDOE> yes ifconfig and nm-tool's mac address correspond
[10:41] <JB> and if you write ifconfig can you see wlan0?
[10:41] <hdon> biledemon, i think the best way would be this: ls -l `dpkg -L PACKAGENAME`
[10:41] <SASDOE> JB: Yes
[10:42] <bgboo> I got a problem with my pc, I insalled ubuntu, formated win. When I restart the PC and start it up, nothing happend.
[10:42] <hdon> biledemon, then you would see the mtimes on the files and if those are the time it was installed, that should tell you
[10:42] <JB> can you paste iwconfig here (or somewhere?)
[10:42] <cfhowlett> bgboo, you installed ubuntu and THEN formatted your HDD for windows?  of COURSE nothing happens - you wiped out your OS!
[10:43] <hdon> biledemon, use the back-tick (`) character below the tilde (~) character btw (this executes the command and then substitutes the output of that command as part of a new command string
[10:43] <bgboo> no, it was win7 on the computer, then I installed ubuntu
[10:43] <SASDOE> JB: comming up need to plug it in first am not on the same pc
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !details|bgboo,
[10:45] <bgboo> newest ubuntu, the screen is just black with info about my pc, wich components and such. and I ofc expect it to boot up
[10:45] <cfhowlett> bgboo, picture ...
[10:45] <bgboo> Ive tryed install it from usb & cd
[10:46] <JB> SASDOE: plug it in :))
[10:46] <biledemon> hdon: that commans gives me a long list of all sorts of files
[10:46] <hdon> biledemon, all of those files are part of the package
[10:46] <unixbeardxd> bgbo: bgboo, it sounds like you are not even hitting the boot stage.  Does your PC see the drives in the BIOS, and have you set it to boot from CD/USB
[10:46] <hdon> biledemon, the dates on those files might tell you when they were installed
[10:46] <g0mib0y> EleanorEllis: I use Softphone for customer contact. I work in a IT helpdesk
[10:47] <hdon> biledemon, or it might just tell you when the files were last modified by the package maintainer... i am unsure which!
[10:47] <hdon> ohh
[10:47] <hdon> biledemon, sorry
[10:47] <hdon> biledemon, try this instead: ls -ld `dpkg -L PACKAGENAME`
[10:47] <hdon> include the "d" in the ls command
[10:47] <hdon> sorry, my first suggestino will list too many files!
[10:47] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Well, I'm back in to 12.04. Of course, I forgot to repair grub before rebooting but luckily I had a boot repair disc handy
[10:48] <bgboo> ive set it from boot from cd/usb ofc, and ive installed ubuntu etc. Then ubuntu ask me to restart, but OS dosent boot, and Ive choosen boot from HDD ( when ive done installing )
[10:48] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, problem solved?
[10:48] <EleanorEllis> Yes
[10:48] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:48] <hdon> biledemon, but i just tried the command myself, and it looks like it gives the package maintainer's mtime, not the installation time. how to see the creation time...
[10:48] <EleanorEllis> !bootrepairdisc
[10:48] <bgboo> The os dosent install proberly
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|bgboo,
[10:49] <SASDOE__> JB: sorry PC crashed : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049289/
[10:50] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: Is the issue that you want to shift all your customers onto Ubuntu but there is no softphone alternative or you want to shift yourself onto it and leave the customers on windows?
[10:50] <JB> SASDOE: crashed? :))
[10:50] <biledemon> hdon: that gives me only results from the package I want, so that's good. Still not sure which line to look at though
[10:50] <JB> SASDOE: and can you paste ifconfig
[10:50] <SASDOE> Mhh anoying. If I do three things in a row I'll get thrown back to gdm's login page..
[10:51] <biledemon> hdon: yeah..
[10:51] <JB> SASDOE: : and can you actually tell me more about your config?
[10:51] <SASDOE__> JB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049315/
[10:51] <hdon> biledemon, the thing is, if apt keeps a record of when installs/removes/updates occur, i've never heard of it
[10:52] <SASDOE> JB: it's a macbook7.1 with ubuntu gnome 13.10 installed. Didn't bother formatting usb install stick to img but I doubt that has amything to do with anything
[10:53] <bgboo> thanks a lot cfhowlett Ill try that ( btw i am using a geforce 7900 )
[10:53] <hdon> bbiab
[10:53] <biledemon> hdon: maybe you're right. Well I can always just google the package name and find out that way. Thanks anyway
[10:53] <bgboo> and x2 HDD ( SATA1+SATA2 ), ive earlier had I problem with the PC, it wouldt boot, then I swapped sata ports, and then it worked
[10:56] <JB> SASDOE: OK, and the ifconfig?
[10:56] <SASDOE__> JB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049315/
[10:56] <JB> SASDOE__: Try ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:57] <SASDOE> and then up? allready did
[10:57] <JB> SASDOE__: ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0
[10:57] <JB> SASDOE__: ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:57] <onlty> sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:57] <JB> SASDOE__: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[10:57] <onlty> Disabled wlan0
[10:57] <onlty> I have automatic WIFI setup script
[10:58] <SASDOE> JB: Done
[10:58] <JB> SASDOE: And???
[10:58] <SASDOE> still no scan
[10:58] <JB> SASDOE: No rf-kill switch?
[10:59] <SASDOE> nor soft nor hard
[10:59] <JB> SASDOE:  and can you tell me again which wifi card is it?
[10:59] <JB> SASDOE: macbook :)
[11:00] <SASDOE> it's a bcm 4322
[11:01] <JB> SASDOE: try sudo lshw and find network
[11:02] <davividal> I can't login on 13.10 with my intel i915. I must chmod a-x /usr/bin/compiz to be able to login. What's happening?
[11:02] <JB> SASDOE: you probably does not have firmware installed.
[11:02] <JB> SASDOE: repair: don't have
[11:03] <hdon> hi all :) how can i ask apt which files which were installed by apt differ from what is in the package?
[11:03] <hdon> i realize i'll get a lot of configuration files and whatnot...
[11:04] <SASDOE> JB: the command is "lshw" right ? If so I just listed some stuff ending with a network listing and I still can't scan
[11:04] <SASDOE> I installed firware non free if that helps
[11:05] <SASDOE> And lshw shows a firmware under wlan0
[11:05] <JB> SASDOE: hm, so i can't help you, but internet is full of this so good luck :)
[11:06] <SASDOE> JB: Thanks any way! Any ideas what to look for?
[11:08] <Munster> SASDOE, sudo lshw -C network
[11:10] <SASDOE> Crashed again... I might have to reinstall anyway but that wont change anything will it? It's a fesh install.
[11:11] <SASDOE> I mean I can't use it as is, no wifi and crashes as soon as i open firefox and a terminal at the same time, or anything comprable in load
[11:12] <Munster> SASDOE, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade then see what happens
[11:13] <SASDOE> Ok thanks
[11:13] <Munster> you'll need an  internet connection tho, like ethernet
[11:13] <SASDOE> I have
[11:14] <Munster> ok SASDOE, always update etc after a clean instll
[11:14] <SASDOE> I though it had as I had checked the box, but obviously wasn't enough
[11:15] <SASDOE> Gui always fails, I should know by now
[11:16] <Munster> yes use the terminal
[11:18] <SASDOE__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049412/
[11:18] <SASDOE> Munster: output from lshw -C network
[11:19] <grache28> HI guys
[11:19] <grache28> I'm trying to install ubuntu server on via cd on an 2008 sun (x86)
[11:20] <grache28> at first I'm able to use the keyboard, but immediately afterwards no
[11:20] <unixbeardxd> grache28: what about when you SSH in?
[11:21] <grache28> unixbeardxd: well i'm trying to start the install from a cd, isn't that too early to ssh in?
[11:22] <Munster> SASDOE, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:22] <grache28> it allows me to select a language, then select some options (like install, test memory, etc) when I chose install it takes me to a menu where I need to select language again and then it doesnt accept keyboard input
[11:23] <SASDOE> Munster: I had to unistall those to try and fix it in the first place.. I had the same problem with those.
[11:23] <unixbeardxd> grache28: possibly.  Is the system just unresponsive to the keyboard, or to mouse input as well?
[11:23] <grache28> it's not a gui menu
[11:24] <SASDOE> I though ubuntu was cd sized anymore
[11:25] <SASDOE> grache28: what version are you installing?
[11:25] <lucido> hi, mailto: gmail is not working on firefox in ubuntu
[11:25] <unixbeardxd> grache28, oh, I assumed Ubuntu Server used the same install methods as Desktop.  My bad.
[11:25] <Kruppt> sasdoe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868&page=24      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748245&page=5
[11:25] <lucido> hi, mailto: gmail is not working on firefox in ubuntu
[11:25] <lucido> sorry
[11:25] <unixbeardxd> grachie28: I love Ubuntu on the Desktop but not as a server, I always go with Debian netinstall for a server.
[11:26] <Munster> SASDOE, firmware-b43-installer
[11:26] <grache28> unixbeardxd: awesome
[11:27] <SASDOE> Munster: allready have that..
[11:27] <SASDOE> grache28: I second unixbeardxd on that
[11:27] <SASDOE> Kruppt: will give those a try thanks
[11:28] <unixbeardxd> grache28: what it sounds like to me is your Sun box is hard locking during the install process.  If you want to use Ubuntu Server, it may be worthwhile pulling the drives and installing using a known good system, then drop the drives back into the Sun server.
[11:28] <Munster> ok SASDOE try this tutorial, http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[11:30] <Munster> SASDOE, the url I posted is essentially the same as Kruppt 's
[11:30] <grache28> unixbeardxd: hadn't considered that
[11:31] <jqwerty> Hi there I'm trying to get a Brother HL-1110 printer to work , Does Saucy user lpr or cups drivers?
[11:32] <Wiz_KeeD> what does it mean when I can login to ssh but cannot scp?
[11:32] <unixbeardxd> grache28: it's not pretty but if the installer is causing the hardlock, that will get around it.  If you have problems with the hardware, they'll show up on the first boot after the drive transfer.
[11:33] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, depends on the error you get
[11:33] <Munster> Wiz_KeeD, what are you trying to scp ?
[11:33] <grache28> all but verified that its not a hard lock
[11:33] <bazhang> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-1110 jqwerty
[11:34] <Wiz_KeeD> Munster, a sql dump that I've downloaded hundrets of times, and I get connection timeout OerHeks
[11:34] <tricolor> hi =)
[11:34] <grache28> coz i can boot into the check disk section where it checks the install disk & no kb support, but it chugs along checking the disk
[11:34] <gynter> Hello, who manages the http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ and how to get a torrent authorized there?
[11:35] <grache28> the server gui install is probably bigger than cd size, no?
[11:35] <neubie> Hi, anyone knows of jockey software package is needed when you never use 'check new drivers feature' in ubuntu?
[11:36] <jqwerty> bazhang: I've installed the cupswrapper driver their guide says to go to localhost:631 which is 404 , not sure how to continue
[11:36] <neubie> I mean is it ok to remove kockey package?
[11:36] <neubie> jockey
[11:36] <unixbeardxd> grache28: I think it's smaller than a 700MB CD.
[11:37] <grache28> it's all the text based that locks up the kb
[11:37] <OerHeks> gynter, that site is for ubuntu torrents only, this team handles torrents https://launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/+members
[11:37] <unixbeardxd> gynter: what ISO do you want that is not already there?
[11:37] <jqwerty> bazhang: not sure what you did but work now :)
[11:37] <Munster> !jockey | neubie
[11:37] <gynter> unixbeardxd: Estobuntu
[11:37] <Munster> !info jockey | neubie
[11:38] <Munster> hmm
[11:38] <neubie> ok, so i remove it
[11:38] <tricolor> mint or ubuntu?
[11:38] <Munster> neubie, just search for additional drivers
[11:38] <unixbeardxd> gynter, so not one of the mainline derivatives then.
[11:38] <neubie> can't make it dissapear from autostartt menu
[11:38] <OerHeks> gynter, estobuntu is no official ubuntu
[11:39] <DomeMaster> hello
[11:39] <neubie> thanks
[11:39] <bazhang> !info jockey-gtk
[11:40] <gynter> OerHeks: so it only hosts official?
[11:41] <gynter> eg ones controlled by Canonical Ltd.?
[11:42] <OerHeks> gynter, yes, no derivatives
[11:44] <bngle> hi... I installed latest hew enablement stack (linux-generic-lts-saucy) on my Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS. Everything works fine. What packages commands should I run to get rid of the older linux-generic stuff (I have several 3.2.x kernels installed)
[11:45] <gynter> OerHeks: k, thanks
[11:45] <OerHeks> bngle, remove all kernels from softwarecenter/synaptic, except the current and the one before that.
[11:46] <bngle> apt-get purge linux-headers-3.2.* linux-image-3.2.* linux-generic linux-generic-headers?
[11:46] <bngle> OerHeks: this is server, so no synaptic here
[11:46] <OerHeks> bngle, oke, here is an example for commandline-removal >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[11:47] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get remove --purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d')
[11:48] <bolovanos> hi there - trying  to install ubuntu to an old hw (pentium duo..) and having issue with "blinking cursor". Is anybody here with knowledge to this topic? (got more information, but i do not wana spam it here...)
[11:49] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, old hardware? lubuntu or xubuntu
[11:49] <bngle> OerHeks: thanks!
[11:50] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: hw: notebook MSI - ms-163n, tryed both systems in varyous versions - same result
[11:50] <OerHeks> bngle, i just removed 6 kernels too :-D
[11:50] <grache28> unixbeardxd: tried installing on another machine
[11:51] <grache28> kb not recognized their either.....
[11:52] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: sry tryed ubuntu and xubuntu - i thought that "lubuntu" is mystake - did not know that there is this version :)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, lubuntu is optimized for older/lower specification hardware
[11:55] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: ok - I can try that later - downloading takes 1h+ of time. But I think that I have problem with ACPI, because only way to run "try ubuntu" is with option "acpi=off"
[11:55] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: do you think that lubuntu solves that?
[11:55] <adsc> maybe a bios update would also help
[11:55] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, ^^^ this!
[11:55] <unixbeardxd> grache28:Ok, that is weird.  Can you see what happens when you try another distro like Debian netinstall?
[11:56] <bolovanos> adsc: found someone with same problem https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129872.0 - hi did bios update but it did not help.
[11:56] <adsc> that's unfortunate
[11:56] <wizonesolutions> I still see people complaining a lot about Unity. I don't recall it being the end of the world last time I used it...has it gotten worse?
[11:57] <OerHeks> bolovanos, did you try " acpi=vendor ΅ ??
[11:57] <wizonesolutions> I see people recommend Mint...as a web developer, not sure which to pick. I like keyboard shortcuts, and IIRC Unity was pretty good with them.
[11:57] <bolovanos> OerHeks: probably not - how - where?
[11:57] <OerHeks> wizonesolutions, mint is slower than ubuntu, and mint is not supported here
[11:57] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, take a look at the ubuntu Sputnik from Dell - meant for developers
[11:58] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, not supported here however ...
[11:58] <OerHeks> bolovanos, same place as you put acpi=off
[11:59] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.software-dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition.aspx
[11:59] <adsc> bolovanos: btw, the link you posted is a pretty old thread, so things might have changed
[11:59] <adsc> bolovanos: might still be worth it to update the bios, there are often fixes for power management etc.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, or this   http://odm.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[12:00] <bolovanos> OerHeks: right now I have 11.10 ubuntu i386 - and there is no such optiom - usb boot does not show F6 optiom..., maebye it is part of newer version - correct me if not - save my time trying it :)
[12:01] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, as 11.10 is way past end of life: yes a supported version might be nice
[12:01] <bolovanos> adsc: yes it is old thred and only one i foud - problem is a cannot find proper bios for it - product is discontinued :/
[12:02] <wizonesolutions> OerHeks: yeah I know, but I figured people know it exists and might have opinions. interesting to hear that it's slower. that's good information, thanks.
[12:02] <adsc> bolovanos: wow, that sucks...maybe buy a business laptop next time, they usually have longer support lifetimes
[12:02] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: thougt so ... btw i have installed this version on usb stick and then the same problem appeared - gues acpi again
[12:02] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, sounds like ...
[12:03] <bolovanos> adsc: one thing a hate about this is fact that we buy hw that is capable working for longer period of time and we have to get rid of it because of SW and support - THAT is very bad behaviour for environment
[12:03] <wizonesolutions> cfhowlett: ah, I already have a system to install it on. It seems like I can just go vanilla and then if I don't like something swap it out. I'm going to be using containers and Vagrant for my actual web dev anyway if it comes to that...and those have wide support from what I understand.
[12:04] <adsc> bolovanos: that's true. A friend of mine just called yesterday because his printer no longer works in Windows 8. HP simply decided to not write drivers for this "old product"
[12:05] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, sounds like a plan.  I installed vanilla then added sputnik packages - bypassed the custom dell stuff ...
[12:07] <MetalWolf> Hi, I have an HP desktop which had windows 7 installed on it and I have installed ubuntu onto it.  I was forced to manually partition as it would not allow me to install it with automatic resizing.  I discovered that the system will boot into ubuntu using UEFI and windows 7 if i tell it to boot from the hard drive.  I have looked into using boot-repair.  This now allows me to see a grub menu from the hard drive boot but the only options are ubuntu.  The past
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Is there anyway to check if the ubuntu box is rejecting connections in a log or something?
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Or wether the higher firewall is
[12:14] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   I also added an error i get when i try to run "bumblebeed"
[12:15] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: in case you have iptables rules set ... try: "sudo iptables -L"  to get a list of your rules
[12:15] <fidel_> might be a first step
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, thanks for answering, that's what I did first
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, I also disabled the firewall
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8889540
[12:18] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: how about adding a LOG --log-level XY to the rules you consider being critical?
[12:18] <xsaidx> heyy guys
[12:18] <xsaidx>  i ve an azerty keyboard and thats cool for writin i cant dind out how to type some symbols like star
[12:18] <xsaidx>  i ve tried many combo  but still the same
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, idk how to do that
[12:18] <xsaidx> im on lubuntu
[12:18] <odla> hi, the filenames for my qt apps are in Icelandic while everything else is in English. How can i make my qt apps (QGIS in this case) have the filenames in English?
[12:19] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: well in case you disabled your firewall already-  there is no need to - but that would be the way to debung single rules --- let them log to whatever file you want
[12:19] <fidel_> *debugging*
[12:19] <utug12> liar
[12:19] <fidel_> *debug*
[12:19] <Wiz_KeeD> I see, now what is the next step?
[12:20] <odla> oops and i mean menu names and menu entries
[12:20] <utug12> linux mint is not slower
[12:20] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: in case you have disabled your firewall and still have connection problems?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> utug12, mint is not supported on this channel.
[12:21] <cnimo> hello everyone, I cannot connect to 2 wireless networks. one is an open mesh network, and the other's password is correctly entered.
[12:21] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, intermitently
[12:21] <cnimo> this happened lately at one other place, where I also had to enter password over browser, but the page didnt ever show up
[12:21] <utug12> just dont bashing linux mint ok!!!!
[12:22] <Wiz_KeeD> wiz@ubuntu:/$ sudo ufw disable Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup and some bzr+ssh commands are still hanging
[12:22] <cnimo> is it possibly a problem with the settings?
[12:22] <odla> anyone why the localization might be off for qt apps but not my gtk ones?
[12:22] <utug12> just be freindly to other distribution ok
[12:23] <bonafide> Hi guys, I run Ubuntu 12.04. I just read that Canonical upgraded to 12.04.4. How do I uprgrade?
[12:24] <metaphysician> How do I tell apt to consider updates coming from a particular repository to be *security* updates?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> bonafide, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <tarzaneck> hi, I've got a problem with Zorin, ubuntu based obviously - the network is connected, the hostnames are being resolved, but ping doesn't ping, webpages don't open, just like something is blocking it?
[12:24] <bonafide> cfhowlett: how dangerous is that?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> tarzaneck, zorin is not supported here.   please use zorin's support
[12:24] <cfhowlett> bonafide, it will upgrade 12.04 to 12.04.4
[12:24] <bonafide> ok.
[12:24] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   I also added an error i get when i try to run "bumblebeed"
[12:24] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, http://pastie.org/8889552 after firewall was turned off
[12:25] <tarzaneck> I just thought that since the whole network framework is the same you could help me, but whatever
[12:25] <bonafide> cfhowlett: should i read anything beforehand to estimate risks? if so, what?
[12:25] <cnimo> hello everyone, I cannot connect to 2 wireless networks. one is an open mesh network, and the other's password is correctly entered.this happened lately at one other place, where I also had to enter password over browser, but the page didnt ever show up. is it possibly a problem with the settings?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> bonafide, point releases don't *usually* break anything but you probably will get a kernel upgrade.  if need be, reboot and login to an older ubuntu version.
[12:26] <bonafide> okay, lets just try it. thank you, cfhowlett!
[12:26] <cfhowlett> bonafide, best of luck.
[12:26] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: no idea sorry
[12:27] <kostkon> bonafide, what's the output of:  lsb_release -a
[12:27] <SASDOE> Hasn't happenned to me but what should one do if the pc wont boot after a dist update?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, generally, reboot and drop back to an older (previously working) kernel
[12:28] <SASDOE> in the grub?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, yes, it's a grub menu option
[12:28] <SASDOE> So I should keep track of my kernel version
[12:29] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, well, be aware of it ...
[12:29] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[12:29] <bonafide> "DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[12:29] <bonafide> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[12:29] <bonafide> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[12:29] <bonafide> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS"
[12:29] <bonafide> NAME="Ubuntu"
[12:29] <bonafide> VERSION="12.04.4 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[12:29] <bonafide> ID=ubuntu
[12:29] <bonafide> ID_LIKE=debian
[12:29] <bonafide> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu precise (12.04.4 LTS)"
[12:29] <bonafide> VERSION_ID="12.04"
[12:29] <bonafide> Thank you all!
[12:29] <SASDOE> cfhowlett: cool thanks
[12:29] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, best of luck
[12:30] <SASDOE> cfhowlett: hasn't happend yet but just want to know when it does!
[12:30] <cfhowlett> bonafide, seems you're already at 12.04.4
[12:30] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, :)
[12:30] <SASDOE> for when it does
[12:30] <bonafide> jep :>
[12:30] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[12:30] <diecastarts> oops sorry
[12:33] <spillere> I have this command, for f in *.flac; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k "${f%.flac}.mp3" && rm "$f"; done, which transforms * Flacs to Mp3, but I have many many folders. how can i do, in a simple way, appy that code to all subdirectories??
[12:34] <geirha> spillere: find . -type d -execdir bash -c 'for f in ./*.flac; do [[ -f $f ]] || continue; ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k "${f%.flac}.mp3" && rm "$f"; done' _ {} \;
[12:34] <metaphysician> How does apt know which updates are security updates?  Is security.ubuntu.com hardcoded as the only originator of security updates?
[12:34] <Jeet> hii
[12:35] <Guest57347> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:36] <metaphysician> sorry was disconnected, say again
[12:38] <metaphysician> Is there a difference between a security-critical update package and a normal update package?
[12:39] <metaphysician> insofar as apt is concerned
[12:40] <Munster> metaphysician,  security packages are cony=tained/soureced from their own repos
[12:40] <diecastarts> anyone know about bumblebee I really don;t want to have to Backup and reinstall EVERYTHING just because it daemon will not seem to start
[12:40] <Munster> err contained/sourced
[12:41] <Bittu> hiii
[12:42] <metaphysician> Munster: can I mark updates coming from a custom repository as security-critical? e.g. official google-chrome repository
[12:42] <Bittu> someone ping mi..???
[12:42] <cfhowlett> Bittu, we see you
[12:43] <Bittu> ok thnx..
[12:45] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[12:45] <Munster> BBL
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874616
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33849/cannot-control-volume-in-tvtime
[12:46] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip w8
[12:47] <cnimo> hello everyone, I cannot connect to 2 wireless networks. one is an open mesh network, and the other's password is correctly entered.this happened lately at one other place, where I also had to enter password over browser, but the page didnt ever show up. is it possibly a problem with the settings?
[12:48] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[12:50] <spillere> geirha: thanks!!!
[12:50] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip ey man, i can control the volume but its stuck till 0 and 1
[12:51] <geirha> spillere: Err wait, that's not quite right. It won't catch the leaf nodes
[12:52] <geirha> spillere: find . -type f -name "*.flac" -execdir bash -c 'for f; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k "${f%.flac}.mp3" && rm "$f"; done' _ {} +
[12:52] <spillere> geirha:  it worked for one folder
[12:52] <spillere> will it get more then one subdirectory?
[12:53] <geirha> that should recursively find all flac files, starting from ./, and convert them
[12:53] <spillere> geirha: you are the best! thanks
[12:55] <buer> Hi anyone has an idea why ubuntu would boot to failsafe X when there is working xorg.conf
[12:59] <diecastarts> ANYONE KNOW ABOUT BUMBLEBEE????????????
[13:01] <buer> I have tried apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core,xserver-xorg,xserver-xorg-video-intel ... but no luck , i pulled out nvidai graphics and trying to run get booting right for onboard intel ... i am in graphics mode but it involves some trickery from console
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !bumblebee
[13:02] <buer> ubuntu just boot straight to fallback an there is blank screen X -config xorg.conf prings up nice working graphics
[13:02] <diecastarts> omg.
[13:02] <diecastarts> omg.
[13:03] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[13:04] <buer> is there an option for X -config for vide driver
[13:04] <buer> like X -config -<something> intel
[13:05] <spillere> geirha: the last one didn't work
[13:05] <Kruppt> diecastarts: did you read?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[13:06] <geirha> spillere: Oh? what's the error?
[13:07] <diecastarts> I have I been on the web all night trying to fix this.. None it works.. all they tell me to do is reinstall
[13:07] <diecastarts> I need help I never get it.. From #bumblebee or Lubuntu
[13:07] <spillere> I get an error with flac conversion like: 03 Ainda lembro.flac: No such file or directory
[13:08] <geirha> spillere: Odd, I don't see any reason for that happening other than there being two such processes running at the same time
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !patiience|diecastarts,
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !patience|diecastarts,
[13:09] <OerHeks> spillere, funny paces in names can do that
[13:09] <OerHeks> *spaces
[13:09] <spillere> maybe the name with spaces?
[13:10] <geirha> spillere: No, spaces won't matter
[13:11] <rwsq1> diecastarts, is it all enabled in the bios?
[13:11] <geirha> spillere: Are you sure there's no other find running; It sounds like something has snapped up that file and converted it already, so you probably have a .mp3 version of that now instead.
[13:11] <spillere> geirha: maybe it's not converting on write folder?
[13:11] <buer> failsafe X anyone, how i force ubunto not to go there ... I have working xorg.conf
[13:12] <diecastarts> rwsq1, it should be.. I think it started because I did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <spillere> 01 Tailgunner.flac: No such file or directory maybe it's trying to convert the file but not giving the folder?
[13:13] <diecastarts> didn't think it would hurt but it seem to have
[13:13] <rwsq1> ps auxww | grep bumble
[13:13] <rwsq1> diecastarts, does that return anything?
[13:13] <geirha> spillere: -execdir makes sure to "cd" into the dir containing flac files before running the bash process
[13:13] <spillere> ahh
[13:13] <spillere> i have like 10 folders with flacs inside
[13:13] <spillere> i want to convert the those files
[13:14] <masood> anyone has idea of this error : ldapsam_create_user: Unable to allocate a new user id: bailing out! Failed to add entry for user br.  it happens when I create a new user by pdbedit -af
[13:14] <diecastarts> rwsq1, ???? does what return what. did you see my pastebin??
[13:14] <rwsq1> if you type what I put into a terminal, does that return anything?
[13:14] <spillere> geirha: the script that I had already did that, but i want to do in a way that i can use the command in any folder and it checks the subfolders for flac files
[13:15] <diecastarts> sorry did see that trying
[13:15] <geirha> spillere: And that's what that find is doing, but it sounds like something else is running in the background
[13:15] <diecastarts> 1000     10219  0.0  0.0  20448   940 pts/2    S+   09:15   0:00 grep --color=auto bumble
[13:15] <spillere> just used that command in a folder WITH flac on the root folder and its workin
[13:16] <rwsq1> diecastarts, ok so bumblebee isn't running
[13:17] <diecastarts> yes it will not start
[13:17] <rwsq1> ok so it could be that the bios setting has changed
[13:17] <rwsq1> on my laptop (dell) every so often the bios loses the optirun config
[13:18] <rwsq1> so before you do anything else I would check that
[13:18] <diecastarts> I can try.. that happen once with windows7 but its odd
[13:18] <rwsq1> if it is enabled, then try purging all the bumblebee packages
[13:18] <rwsq1> and then reinstall them
[13:18] <bananapie> I have three machines running Ubuntu. Machine A connects to eth0 on machine b machine c connects to eth1 on machine b. I want to measure throughput from machine A to Machine C ( crossing Machine B ). Kind of like speedtest.net or something. Is there a tool that can easily do this in ubuntu?
[13:19] <rwsq1> bananapie: iptraf
[13:19] <diecastarts> k rwsq1 thank you
[13:19] <bananapie> sorry, I was unclear. I need a tool that will measure throughput AND generate traffic to see how much it can handle.
[13:19] <rwsq1> bananapie: wget?
[13:19] <Munster> metaphysician, your chrome repos is most likely a ppa, correct if so then if you don't want any updates from atm , you can comment the line with # at the beginning of the deb line in the /etc/apt/sources.list, and the source will be ignored on any updates/upgrades until you uncomment it.
[13:20] <rwsq1> scp?
[13:20] <bananapie> That sounds good. I'll create  a dummy file with dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/www/test.bin
[13:20] <bananapie> scp uses encryption, so I can't trust it as the CPU may slow it down.
[13:20] <bananapie> I'll use wget, it's a good suggestion.
[13:20] <bananapie> thanks
[13:21] <rwsq1> yeah the encryption overhead does make a difference, you'll probably find if you are on gigabit that you have difficulty sending at full speed
[13:21] <rwsq1> if you want a raw socket you can use netcat
[13:21] <rwsq1> bananapie, http://deice.daug.net/netcat_speed.html
[13:24] <Guest83723> I have a laptop with Nvidia Cuda. I want to disable it to preserve battery. I know bumblee can disable Nvidia optimus but what about cuda?
[13:26] <diecastarts> rwsq1, thank you very much for the help that was it.. I wish i would have booted to windows because i would have found out that was the real problem. but again Thank you very very Much
[13:27] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip ey man, i can control the volume but its stuck till 0 and 1
[13:28] <rwsq1> diecastarts, no worries
[13:29] <Guest83723> GPU problem.I have a laptop with Nvidia Cuda. I want to disable it to preserve battery. I know bumblee can disable Nvidia optimus but what about cuda?
[13:30] <A1Recon> I got a new Laptop, installed Win 7 64-bit Ultimate on it. Now I trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 x64 on it using a Bootable USB. But the Ubuntu installation says "No other OS detected" and shows the entire 1 TB drive as empty. What do I do? How Do I keep both Win 7 and Ubuntu?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !uefi|A1Recon, new lappy?  Almost certainly efi
[13:30] <budi_> I used dongle bluertooth then ubuntu hanged, why? ... sorry for my bad english
[13:31] <diecastarts> Guest83723, with the newest bumblebee it using bbswitch for the power saving
[13:31] <Guest83723> diecastarts: Yes but does it work with Cuda?
[13:31] <A1Recon> Also when I try to shrink the C drive(931.4 GB partition) I can only shrink the C drive upto 470 GB. Why is that?
[13:32] <Guest83723> A1Recon: defragment and reshrink
[13:32] <diecastarts> Guest83723, Yes it always uses it
[13:32] <Guest83723> diecastarts: Ok
[13:32] <diecastarts> !bumblebee
[13:32] <Guest83723> diecastarts: Thank you
[13:32] <diecastarts> at the buttom of the page it talks about cuda
[13:32] <A1Recon> Guest83723: Do I have to use some 3rd party program to defragment?
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !defrag
[13:33] <Guest83723> A1Recon: there is an defragmentor builtin windows or you can use any 3rd party. No problem
[13:34] <A1Recon> OK so I am using the inbuilt "Disk Defragmenter"
[13:35] <Guest83723> A1Recon: it should work. I generally avoid MS inbuild softs. I am using TuneUp
[13:36] <jitesh> hiiiii....
[13:37] <test_osteron> hat schon jemand ubuntu phone ausprobiert??
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !de|test_osteron,
[13:38] <onlty> !ko|onlty
[13:38] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all
[13:38] <Chuck_Norris> are we the best comunity in tha world?
[13:39] <onlty> Fortuneately, he doesn't have kick permission
[13:40] <onlty> roundhouse-kick
[13:40] <test_osteron> ubottu,: no problem, thought i was on ther german server
[13:50] <Phil42> friday is splurge on lunch day, where should i go?
[13:52] <Phil42> no lunch today?
[13:52] <daftykins> Phil42: what are the choices?
[13:53] <Phil42> almost all the chain places
[13:53] <bananapie> Not burger king, where I live it takes 20 minutes to get through Burger King's drive through
[13:53] <Phil42> i quit eating at burger king long ago
[13:53] <bananapie> good call
[13:53] <bananapie> my wife made chicken rice for me.
[13:54] <Phil42> i don't eat at a place where i have to worry if i will get a disease
[13:54] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get purge wopper
[13:54] <Phil42> uh oh,   major software update,  reboot required
[13:54] <bananapie> Connection timed out
[13:56] <bananapie> Can I attach a virtual console to a virsh domain without restarting the virtual machine ?
[14:01] <bananapie> nevermind, it won't work. I have to restart the domains.
[14:02] <Chuck_Norris> are we the best comunity in tha world?
[14:03] <superlinux-hp> hi. how can I stop any  media player  from running automatically on mobile phone plugin?
[14:03] <rymate1234> yay weechat
[14:03] <SASDOE> Mhh so after trying linux mint and after that installing ubuntu 13.10, I still have the same problems every time, ie no wireless, and crashes and log me out whenever the load climbs a tiny bit.. I'd first like to fix the crashes, seemingly caused by Xorg since I got a message saying xorg failed to idle channel something. This is on a Macbook Pro 7.1
[14:03] <demianb> Ubuntu is so sweet, I wanna pee myself.
[14:05] <arachnia> is there a filer where you can force a 'replace if newer' option when copying files?
[14:06] <inspiron> What launcher is that you're using 20 secs into the video? Also, what theme are you using?
[14:06] <inspiron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZAkCZZyb8
[14:06] <inspiron> please i need it
[14:07] <inspiron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZAkCZZyb8
[14:07] <inspiron> What launcher is that you're using 20 secs into the video? Also, what theme are you using?
[14:07] <inspiron> please i need it
[14:10] <qwertyj> What launcher is that you're using 20 secs into the video? Also, what theme are you using?
[14:10] <qwertyj> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZAkCZZyb8
[14:10] <unixbeardxd> qwertyj: please stop spamming the chat.
[14:10] <onlty> Did (s)he spammed?
[14:10] <unixbeardxd> Same question three times
[14:11] <onlty> uh oh
[14:12] <onlty> qwertyj, no one seems to answer it
[14:12] <unixbeardxd> qwertyj: I looked at the video, it's some Unity-based popup folder launcher that I've never seen before.
[14:14] <unixbeardxd> qwertyj: maybe you should leave a youtube comment.
[14:14] <arachnia> I don't want to risk spamming but does anyone know of a filer where you can set 'replace file if newer' when copying over a backup?
[14:15] <onlty> unixbeardxd, there's already same question in the comments
[14:15] <unixbeardxd> I guess the question will remain a mystery for the time being.
[14:15] <unixbeardxd> arachnia: for that kind of backup, you should probably be using rsync
[14:16] <onlty> I hope compiz would support that features which look awesome
[14:18] <arachnia> unixbeardxd: OK, I will take a look thanks. Just remembering how useful it was in the filer when I used RiscOS many years ago!
[14:28] <bolovanos> ok - lubuntu is not the solution for blinking cursor and acpi=off problem - quiting - this hardware, even working one, must go to the silicon heaven - another slap to Mother nature :(; thanks for participation
[14:28] <bobby_> hi
[14:31] <Georwl> there is no space left in my root partition (20GB). what can I do? Though 20 GB should be enough
[14:32] <unixbeardxd> Georwl, what do you have mounted in your root partition?
[14:32] <Georwl> my home folder
[14:33] <Georwl> that is it
[14:33] <rypervenche> Georwl: You'll probably want to find out what is using up the majority of the space.
[14:34] <unixbeardxd> You probably want to create a new place for /home on a separate drive then.  Somewhere with more space.
[14:34] <minimec> Georwl: If /var is on the same partition too, you can delete the packages in /var/cahce/apt . Also uninstall redundant (old) kernels. Maybe do a sudo apt-get autoremove first.
[14:34] <Georwl> usr >>> 11GB
[14:35] <Georwl> lib >>> 3.7 GB
[14:36] <Georwl> rypervenche, unixbeardxd, minimec: the home folder has pleny of space left
[14:36] <rypervenche> Georwl: Check your PM.
[14:36] <sweb> i'm using ubuntu 13.04 and my hdd led during startup always on and my system now show the login screen
[14:37] <sweb> how can i solve my issue
[14:37] <sweb> ?
[14:38] <Georwl> rypervence: http://pastebin.com/Z4k2Ahsx
[14:40] <rypervenche> Georwl: Oh sorry, do /* instead of /
[14:40] <thom_> so I'm still trying to figure out how to unlock a folder
[14:41] <Georwl> rypervenche: http://pastebin.com/Tbmtxnez
[14:44] <rypervenche> Georwl: So you could probably free up some space in your /var, but your /usr is 11G. Can you run the previous command but with /usr/* instead of /* ?
[14:45] <Georwl> rypervenche: of course: http://pastebin.com/j5rsFAT8
[14:46] <thom_> ugh, I need to know how to unlock this folder
[14:46] <demophobia> Some box came up but I was in the middle of typing so it immediately vanished as if I'd selected some option. How do I avoid this operating system 'error' in the future?
[14:48] <rypervenche> Georwl: Let's go to a private message so we don't spam everyone.
[14:49] <daftykins> demophobia: touchtype so you see it come up!
[14:55] <shookees> hey guys, is there a specific channel for alpha/beta testers?
[14:55] <Pici> shookees: #ubuntu+1
[14:55] <Georwl> rypervenche: do you get my messages now?
[14:55] <shookees> thanks, Pici
[15:03] <demophobia> daftykins, do you mean 'touch type' as in look at the screen rather than keyboard while typing? I ask because that's precisely what I was doing -- typing so quickly that I didn't have time to react to the window that popped up. (Note also that I wouldn't have seen the window come and go if I were looking at the keyboard ...)
[15:04] <daftykins> demophobia: ok :) seen that happen across all OS's though so not really sure what kind of a solution you're after
[15:09] <MrHeisenberg> hello, i have a samba-server and have set up user quotas. but if i mount this share on anoter linux machine or on windows i just get the free disk space instead of the quota-space. what could i've been missed?
[15:13] <daftykins> MrHeisenberg: i don't think you are presented with the quota capacity
[15:16] <MrHeisenberg> daftykins: i get 9GB free for this user, but quota locally says 2GB soft, 2.5GB hard limit
[15:16] <demophobia> daftykins, one simple solution would be to require the user to click on the window before the keyboard could be used to select an option in it. This could be a feature disabled by default that could be enabled.
[15:16] <MrHeisenberg> and locally quotas are working
[15:17] <daftykins> demophobia: ok, i don't think anyone here is likely to be able to take any suggestions though, it's not staff run but volunteer run in here
[15:18] <epaphus> Hello, could anybody please tell me what version of virt-manager comes with Ubuntu?
[15:20] <daftykins> !info virt-manager
[15:20] <daftykins> epaphus: ^
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> how does one completely rename a system user
[15:29] <lucido> how the hell do you change file associations in the chrome browser?
[15:31] <demophobia> btw, it's possible the window i thought i accidentally closed through typing was in fact the update manager that popped up and then went into the background. not sure. have a good day.
[15:31] <User856> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_by_city_in_the_United_States_by_state ,  stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys & queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; andrea hylton/tranny
[15:33] <demophobia> uh ... i need an adult D: (i mean op)
[15:33] <demophobia> ^
[15:33] <Gyndawyr> how do I ping a wireless repeater in ubuntu?
[15:34] <Gyndawyr> I've tried 'ping 192.168.10.1' but all I'm getting back is '56(84) bits of data.'
[15:34] <Gyndawyr> *bytes* not bits
[15:34] <Gyndawyr> shouldn't there be more information than that?
[15:37] <simone__> !list
[15:44] <simone> ciao
[15:44] <Rubas> simone: ciao
[15:45] <simone> !list
[15:46] <benbro2> how can I clean unused apt packages in a safe way?
[15:46] <Lisa201> Can someone point me to a device; Outdoor Access point/router that can run on 12V DC from a common battery?
[15:48] <siberiannerd> Lisa201, not exactly related to your request, but maybe, just maybe, you might want to look at routerboard devices
[15:49] <Lisa201> siberiannerd, routerboard?  I'll google it...
[15:49] <siberiannerd> Lisa201, http://routerboard.com/
[15:49] <genii> The 493 series is pretty good.
[15:50] <Lisa201> Will read that.  I'm looking for a long-range access device for when I'm camping near towns.  Must run on 12V.
[15:51] <Lisa201> I've found several, but with POE I would need to have a POE that takes input as 12v
[15:52] <siberiannerd> yeah i got it, a friend of mine experiences discomfort due to the same fact
[15:54] <siberiannerd> he did it with 2x12v batteries like similar to this one for example http://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-12V-7AH-Sealed-Battery/dp/B003S1RQ2S/ref=sr_1_5?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1394207533&sr=1-5
[15:55] <siberiannerd> runs for almost 24 hours with his custom-built power adapter (? not sure how it's called properly in english)
[15:56] <Lisa201> Ya, I have a ENH202 on the house here, and love it.  But want something portable...
[15:56] <siberiannerd> Lisa201, having this one http://routerboard.com/RB2011LS if i remember well
[15:56] <siberiannerd> i see, just sharing
[15:57] <benbro2> how can I clean unused apt packages in a safe way?
[15:57] <Lisa201> Not sure benbro2, other than using apt-get autoremove, I don't worry about packages.
[15:58] <genii> Lisa201: This model takes POE 9-30VDC and comes with an injector so conceivably you can just tap off the 12V you have and just put the transformwe which comes with it in a drawer someplace. http://routerboard.com/RBGrooveA-52HPn
[16:04] <benbro2> Lisa201: thanks
[16:16] <lucido> AAA fucking chrome, mailto links dont open I already set it to gmail
[16:17] <user1_> join #kvm
[16:17] <lucido> wuts dat?
[16:20] <maveas> Somebody with experience in fwknop? :)
[16:22] <reiky> How can I add a process to the options for "service"? That is, I want to be able to run "sudo service <my_process> start|stop|restart"
[16:23] <bekks> reiky: You cant.
[16:24] <bekks> reiky: You could create wrapperscripts, changeable by root only, and use them in /etc/sudoers.
[16:24] <reiky> bekks: really? how does it work for the current processes?
[16:24] <reiky> bekks: oh, I was prepared to create wrapper scripts. I just don't know what they look like. Do you know where they are stored so I can look at the examples?
[16:24] <wachpwnski> Is there any drag and drop cloud app to share pictures?
[16:25] <Pici> reiky: you can create new service files in /etc/init/
[16:25] <Pici> !upstart
[16:25] <bekks> reiky: There are no templates. Just store them where you want them to be.
[16:25] <matt444> How can I install ubuntu server on a headless server?  Is there a way to have a live usb that boots and then I can VNC in
[16:26] <bekks> matt444: Do you have a remote console facility?
[16:26] <reiky> bekks: sorry, I don't mean templates. I want to look at the scripts for other services, eg tomcat
[16:26] <bhavesh> wachpwnski: well you can use Ubuntu one.
[16:26] <matt444> bekks:  I don't know what you mean. It's a server in my basement
[16:26] <wachpwnski> can i share these images with my team?
[16:26] <matt444> I have physical access to it
[16:26] <bhavesh> wachpwnski: just drag and drop the files in your shared folder.
[16:27] <reiky> Pici: is upstart the new "service" (is that what the latter is called? just "service"?)
[16:27] <bekks> matt444: Does it have something like HP ILO, IBM IMM, or anything like that?
[16:27] <Pici> reiky: upstart powers `service`, look in /etc/init/ for some other service examples.
[16:27] <bhavesh> wachpwnski: yes. https://one.ubuntu.com/services/
[16:28] <matt444> bekks: probably not, it's the hp mediasmart home server
[16:29] <reiky> Pici: perfect, I'll take a look. thanks
[16:30] <compdoc> so many bots, so little time
[16:31] <reiky> exit
[16:35] <matt444> I'm hardware illiterate, did only hard drives have a different type of plug?  I'm trying to set up ubuntu using a spare computer but my 3tb hard drive takes a different plug that this spare computer has, I think
[16:35] <matt444> sanity check
[16:35] <matt444> "only hard drives" -> "old hard drives"
[16:38] <booh> I click on the eject icon to remove safely an USB 2T disk, unplug usb2 and replug on usb3.  I had 2 folder (with subfolders and images files of other computers), now, I have only 1 of the 2 root folders!!!
[16:38] <MacroMan> Funny question, but is there a way to easily create a large file (say 1GB) that is just junk in it?
[16:38] <MacroMan> Testing a backup solution and need to see how it will handle a large file
[16:39] <bekks> MacroMan: dd bs=16M if=/dev/urandom of=/your/file
[16:39] <siberiannerd> MacroMan, dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=1G count=1
[16:39] <bekks> Right, forgot to mention count.
[16:40] <genii> siberiannerd: Thats only zeros, not random junk :)
[16:40] <siberiannerd> genii, taking in view the goal it fits
[16:41] <siberiannerd> however MacroMan you may use urandom instead of zero to generate some random stuff
[16:41] <luigihs> hello I need help
[16:41] <genii> siberiannerd: If the backup method compresses, all zeros will probably give a false compression ratio than of just random data
[16:41] <siberiannerd> genii, yeah i was to slow at first to follow the thought lol
[16:41] <siberiannerd> too*
[16:41] <bekks> luigihs: Then please just ask. :)
[16:42] <MacroMan> It's cool. 0's should be fine. Thanks guys
[16:42] <siberiannerd> MacroMan, dd if=/dev/urandom of=testfile bs=1G count=1
[16:42] <luigihs> Im trying to connnect my vpn
[16:42] <luigihs> well it works
[16:42] <luigihs> but it doesnt work fine
[16:42] <MacroMan> siberiannerd, Cool, I'll use urandom to similate a more realistic aproach
[16:43] <siberiannerd> luigihs, any messages from openvpn client?
[16:43] <luigihs> what is openvpn?
[16:43] <siberiannerd> oh, nvm
[16:44] <siberiannerd> maybe someone more skilled with english language will ask all necessary additional questions
[16:46] <booh> I can SEE a folder on a USB Drive in disk usage analyzer but not in the file manager... What can I do ?
[16:46] <bekks> !openvpn | luigihs
[16:46] <siberiannerd> booh, directory name starts with "." ?
[16:47] <booh> no
[16:47] <booh> I have this problem because I unlplug the usb drive and plug back...
[16:47] <OerHeks> booh sounds like hidden, name starting with a "." ?
[16:47] <siberiannerd> booh, does `ls` show the directory in the listing from-under mounted path?
[16:49] <booh> it's there with ls
[16:52] <booh> meuh... reload done the job... fiou!
[16:53] <sudormrf> hey guys!  I am having a bit of an issue with a cron job that is in the root user cron tab.  The expected behavior is that this job will run at a set interval, look for certain data and write that to a file (and overwrite each time it runs).  However, when the job runs it deletes any information in the file it should be writing to, leaving it blank.  Can anyone help out?
[16:54] <genii> sudormrf: Quite possibly it's not finding the data which it's looking for, therefore writing an empty file
[16:55] <Kabiigon> hi how do i convert a ubuntu iso to a usb image for pcc
[16:55] <Kabiigon> ppc*
[16:55] <Keanu73> Kabiigon: that's a bit hard question
[16:55] <mcse3010> Kabiigon -- use the universal usb installer is one option... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[16:55] <Keanu73> please describe what pcc is..
[16:55] <Keanu73> *ppc
[16:56] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, "and overwrite each time it runs"
[16:56] <mcse3010> oh for ppc
[16:56] <genii> !ppc
[16:56] <Kabiigon> Keanu73, a power mac g5
[16:56] <Keanu73> ah
[16:56] <mcse3010> nice genii
[16:56] <Keanu73> by the way
[16:56] <Keanu73> where's offtopic
[16:57] <compdoc> just off to the right
[16:57] <siberiannerd> !offtopic
[16:57] <Keanu73> k
[16:58] <vnon> hi everyone, I have a locked-up movable disk partition for a while, having forgotten the password almost 1,5 years ago. could I maybe hope for some tools having been developed meanwhile to crack it? ehm, it'd been LUKS-encrypted.
[16:59] <Kabiigon> mcse3010, hey i am not on windows
[16:59] <Kabiigon> im currently running redhat
[17:00] <sudormrf> genii: I don't understand why it wouldn't.  the command works fine when run manually
[17:00] <ankiju> hi! I've forgotten my ubuntu admin pw...i was wondering if sumone here could help me with that
[17:01] <pup_or_die> Hello, Can some one please teach me how to create a "#!/bin/sh" executable startup script?
[17:01] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: I do not want it to append the file because it will create a long list of duplicates
[17:01] <pup_or_die> Hello, Can some one please teach me how to create a "#!/bin/sh" executable startup script?
[17:01] <vnon> hi everyone, I have a locked-up movable disk partition for a while, having forgotten the password almost 1,5 years ago. could I maybe hope for some tools having been developed meanwhile to crack it? ehm, it'd been LUKS-encrypted.
[17:01] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, you might wanna know about logrotate
[17:01] <pup_or_die> Hello, Can some one please teach me how to create a "#!/bin/sh" executable startup script?
[17:01] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: what do you mean?
[17:01] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, `man logrotate`
[17:01] <ankiju> hi! I've forgotten my ubuntu admin pw...i was wondering if sumone here could help me with that
[17:01] <pup_or_die> Hello, Can some one please teach me how to create a "#!/bin/sh" executable startup script?
[17:02] <genii> pup_or_die: Please wait at least 5 to 7 minutes before re-asking the same question
[17:02] <pup_or_die> sorry
[17:02] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: no, I mean how does that apply to this situation?
[17:03] <pup_or_die> Hello, help creating "#!/bin/sh" executable startup script please!
[17:03] <wonderworld> lol
[17:03] <genii> pup_or_die: If you already have the script you want, call it from the /etc/rc.local file. If you need help creating the script, I suggest to visit #bash
[17:03] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, i thought you might want to know about it because you mentioned some "garbage data" which will be collected by cron job scenario, which obviously doesn't work as expected
[17:03] <pup_or_die> genii, thanks for reply
[17:03] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: oh. it's not garbage data.  it would just be writing a bunch of duplicates if it were appending because of what the job is doing.  let me explain what the job is supposed to do.
[17:04] <pup_or_die> genni, how to call it?
[17:04] <genii> pup_or_die: Put the full path of where to find it.
[17:04] <pup_or_die> genni, 1st thing 1st, how to create a the script ?
[17:04] <pup_or_die> xkbcomp /home/username/myxkbmap $DISPLAY
[17:04] <pup_or_die> that is the content of the script
[17:05] <Tommy55> Hello, I am running the latest version of Lubuntu and I was wondering what would be the best way for me to display incoming Gmail notifications on desktop?
[17:05] <vnon> hi everyone, I have a locked-up movable disk partition for a while, having forgotten the password almost 1,5 years ago. could I maybe hope for some tools having been developed meanwhile to crack it? ehm, it'd been LUKS-encrypted.
[17:05] <ankiju> hi! I've forgotten my ubuntu admin pw...i was wondering if sumone here could help me with that
[17:05] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, maybe the answer to the question on why it works manually, but writes nothing is hidden somewhere in it? i suppose that bringing it would be a nice idea
[17:06] <siberiannerd> pup_or_die, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15380.html
[17:06] <wonderworld> pup_or_die: echo "xkbcomp /home/username/myxkbmap $DISPLAY" > /home/username/myscript; chmod +x /home/username/myscript; echo "/home/username/myscript >> /etc/rc.local"
[17:06] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: I am using fail2ban to block IPs that are trying to do bad things.  fail2ban is not persistent.  I tried setting up persistence using a link I found, but it didn't work (got errors).  So then I got assistance from someone in here regarding how to output only the ip addresses listed in iptables.  I then wrote that to a file.  I have a cron job that runs at startup to write those values back to the iptables with the DRO
[17:06] <sudormrf> P flag.
[17:06] <genii> pup_or_die: So put that into a text file, above that line put the "shebang" of #!/bin/bash     ...then save the file to some name like myscript.sh     then in /etc/rc.local put like: /home/username/myscript.sh
[17:06]  * genii goes to forage for food
[17:06] <jazzme> hello, I have a consistent problem downloading files with wget....I download a file and the progress stops @ 78% every time, never completing the download.  Any ideas?
[17:06] <genii> pup_or_die: May also want to do chmod +x myscript.sh
[17:06] <Tommy55> How do I enable desktop notifications for my email on desktop?
[17:06] <pup_or_die> wonderworld, i am running 13.10 xubunt, there is no /etc/rc.local directory
[17:07] <Keanu73> ankiju: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword, and for the boot menu press the shift key until the boot menu appears
[17:07] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: the command I am using to check the iptables is this: iptables -L -n | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' | grep -v 0.0.0.0 > /home/nick/Documents/ip.blacklist.test
[17:07] <wonderworld> pup_or_die: /etc/rc.local is a file, not a directory
[17:07] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, fail2ban might be a bit difficult to tune up for special needs, but i'm not familiar with scenarios which required the cronjob
[17:07] <sudormrf> from the root cron tab that should
[17:07] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: it doesn't require a cronjob
[17:08] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: like I said, fail2ban is not persistent.  when fail2ban restarts any blocks are wiped away.  I don't want those blocks wiped away, hence the cron job.
[17:08] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, can you give us a hint on what exactly are you trying to achieve? so we could probably find some more hardened solution
[17:08] <pup_or_die> Thanks guys!
[17:09] <pup_or_die> Thanks <genii>, <siberiannerd>, <wonderworld>
[17:09] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: I thought I just explained it.  but I will explain again.  I don't want the IPs that are being blocked to go away upon a restart.  I want these IPs blocked forever.  The nature of fail2ban (I already set a negative number for the ban time) is that it bans something temporarily.  again, I want the bans to be permanent.
[17:10] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, it is a good idea to not ban things on a persistent basis due to the fact iptables doesn't "like" it - to store hundreds of such records, pick some consensus period
[17:10] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: ok, well suppose I don't care about that :D
[17:11] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, so your goal is to collect current ip addresses from iptables rules applied via fail2ban?
[17:11] <ProotuS> hi
[17:11] <wonderworld> sudormrf: setting a negative number of seconds should ban permanently
[17:11] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: correct.  and have all of those written to a file.
[17:11] <sudormrf> wonderworld: UNTIL REBOOT
[17:12] <sudormrf> wonderworld: upon reboot anything fail2ban did is wiped
[17:12] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, did you think about appending it and `uniq` the records eventually to keep the list fresh and awesome?
[17:12] <wonderworld> sudormrf: if i remember correctly there is a tool that saves all iptables and restores them. that should work. can't remember the name tough
[17:13] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: I don't follow
[17:13] <sudormrf> wonderworld: iptables-persistent
[17:13] <vnon> hi everyone, I have a locked-up movable disk partition for a while, having forgotten the password almost 1,5 years ago. could I maybe hope for some tools having been developed meanwhile to crack it? ehm, it'd been LUKS-encrypted.
[17:13] <sudormrf> wonderworld: I installed it, but when I rebooted after the recent updates the behavior was not what I had expected
[17:13] <sudormrf> wonderworld: it didn't seem to capture everything
[17:14] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, i'd go with appending and removing duplicate records from the file at the first place, but at this point ihm.. do we have a problem on collecting them at all?
[17:14] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: when it runs as a cron job we do.  the file is blank
[17:14] <wonderworld> sudormrf: yes, you need to add iptables-save to your shutdown scripts or run it by cron every minute or so
[17:14] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: I know what you mean by using uniq, but that would add to complexity to accomplish the same thing
[17:14] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, because it rewrites the file ">"
[17:15] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: that doesn't make sense.  there is still vaules.  again when running this manually it works.  the file is not blank.
[17:15] <siberiannerd> i wouldn't recommend to save such rules, because of what i mentioned about iptables
[17:15] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: why doesn't it "like" it?
[17:15] <siberiannerd> re-adding it at every start is a more wise way
[17:16] <sudormrf> wonderworld: if you do that would iptables then read that file automatically?
[17:16] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: what?  that is what I am trying to accomplish.
[17:16] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, results iptables performance decrease
[17:16] <wonderworld> sudormrf: no, there is a corresponding command to restore them. you need to run that at startup
[17:16] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: what do you mean?
[17:16] <sudormrf> wonderworld: hmm.  let me have a look at how this would work.
[17:16] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, i'm slow due to my english skills, give me a couple of seconds to google some article about it
[17:17] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: no worries.  I appreciate the help guys :)
[17:17] <wonderworld> sudormrf: this might help -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9330694/how-to-permanently-update-iptables
[17:17] <evad3rs> jmn
[17:17] <evad3rs> ciao a tuttiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[17:18] <sudormrf> wonderworld: so basically iptables-save FILENAME on a frequent basis.  on reboot iptables-restore FILENAME
[17:18] <baltimore2> how do I change the name on the login screen? I want to use the username, but it shows my first and last name instead
[17:18] <wonderworld> sudormrf: i din't know what you want to do, but siberiannerd is right. it will affect performance after some time. maybe just rebanning the ip's might be enough. but after all, you know what you want ;)
[17:18] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, i'm not sure if this is exactly what i was looking for but http://people.netfilter.org/kadlec/nftest.pdf
[17:18] <wonderworld> sudormrf: maybe not on a frequent basis. run it on shutdown before iptables are stopped
[17:19] <Tommy55> Hello, I know this is a dumb question but I am using Thunderbird email client and I want to have notifications pop up when ever I get a new email. How would I go about implementing or enabling this type of feature?
[17:19] <sudormrf> wonderworld: I am not familiar with adding something to shutdown scripts.  let me look in to it.
[17:21] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15380.html if you're very serious about getting it done right, or at least rc.local thing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1709280
[17:22] <codydh> How do I install Java runtime environment CLI-only?
[17:23] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: thanks
[17:24] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, may i ask what kind of problem caused you to look forward for such a solution?
[17:24] <wonderworld> sudormrf: you should read it up and understand it. it's very useful for many things you might want to do. this is a good start -> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212
[17:24] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: people trying to break in to my server vpn.
[17:25] <sudormrf> wonderworld: thanks.
[17:25] <OerHeks> codydh, should be doable on commandline >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[17:25] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, switching the bind port and portsentry might also help
[17:25] <codydh> OerHeks: Strange, the openjdk-7-jre seems to want to install X. Might just grab a docker image instead
[17:25] <wonderworld> sudormrf: maybe /etc/hosts.deny would be a more resource friendly solution for your problem
[17:26] <sudormrf> wonderworld: how do you set that up? is it automatic?
[17:26] <siberiannerd> sudormrf, such approach will result into much worse conditions for those who you are fighting with lol
[17:26] <deadbum> What package do I need to upgrade to fix the gnutls bug? I see reports that it's patched but no one mentions what package it is that has the patch
[17:27] <siberiannerd> however i wound't bother about openvpn server that serious until it uses certs as auth method
[17:27] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: its ipsec-tools
[17:27] <siberiannerd> 1,5 hours of ban after few retries with fail2ban should be enough
[17:27] <sudormrf> siberiannerd: I prefer forever
[17:27] <siberiannerd> yeah i got it lol
[17:27] <sudormrf> :)
[17:28] <sudormrf> wonderworld: i did install denyhosts, but I haven't really looked at the configuration
[17:29] <_SjG_home> an Epson printer driver compiled for i486 should still work on my i686 Ubuntu, shouldn't it?
[17:29] <siberiannerd> _SjG_home, should be compatible backwards
[17:30] <_SjG_home> siberiannerd: that's what I thought
[17:30] <glitsj16> deadbum: have you seen http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2127-1/ yet?
[17:30] <siberiannerd> _SjG_home, the result differs from expected one?
[17:30] <deadbum> glitsj16: I have not! Thanks!
[17:30] <deadbum> glitsj16: that is perfect, thanks again
[17:31] <_SjG_home> siberiannerd: well, the printer isn't working, and I wanted to make sure that wasn't the reason. Now I just have to figure out what the actual reason is.
[17:31] <_SjG_home> the cups error log has tons of blank lines, which don't do me much goo d
[17:31] <siberiannerd> _SjG_home, did you try to turn it off and on? ;)
[17:31] <_SjG_home> siberiannerd: I got out of the car, and got back in the car :)
[17:33] <_SjG_home> I love how the error log says "read the error log for explanations" ... recursive log files :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7051135/
[17:33] <sudormrf> wonderworld: are you suggesting that with /etc/deny.hosts I have something write to that file frequently?
[17:34] <wonderworld> sudormrf: every host/ip listed in /etc/hosts.deny can't connect to your machine. you will need to figure out a way to get the hosts in question into that file.
[17:34] <sudormrf> wonderworld: that should be a simple matter of cron magic
[17:35] <sudormrf> wonderworld: do you know the syntax of the entries in here?  meaning, can I just type in an IP address and it will work?
[17:36] <wonderworld> yeah. as you already have the iptables filled with fail2ban with the correct ip's, you could parse the output of iptables -L and put the IPs into hosts.deny
[17:36] <wonderworld> yes, just one IP per line, thats it
[17:37] <wonderworld> but.... if i remember correctly, denyhosts does that. but i think it has a timeout as well you would need to configure. you need to read denyhosts manual
[17:38] <Guest1234567> I am trying to restart mysql but it never starts after stopping, it keeps hanging, also when i try to reboot my server it hangs so i have to reset it. What can i check?
[17:38] <vnon> hi everyone, I have a locked-up movable disk partition for a while, having forgotten the password almost 1,5 years ago. could I maybe hope for some tools having been developed meanwhile to crack it? ehm, it'd been LUKS-encrypted.
[17:40] <tmmunq> not too likely, especially if it had a lot of rounds
[17:40] <siberiannerd> vnon, such things designed with security in mind, i bet there are no fine solutions about it, but i'd try #hashcat channel to ask, if their rules are fine with it
[17:40] <Pinkamena_D> I have a computer positioned at the piano so I can sight read things without wasting paper. In looking for a good way to scroll through files of music, I considered hooking up a racing wheel which had analog pedals and mapping the 'gas' to scroll down and the 'brake' to scroll up. Any idea where I can start?
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[17:41] <vnon> siberiannerd, their rules? you mean it depends on whether it is ok to help with it?
[17:41] <A1Recon> Win 7 did not allow to shrink the 931.4 GB C Drive beyond 471680MB. Ran Defragmenter...but did not work. What do I do now? I don't want a 471GB C Drive . Should I reinstall Windows?
[17:41] <Guest1234567> A1Recon: install ubuntu?
[17:41] <siberiannerd> vnon, i'm not local, so just shared on what i'd check at first
[17:42] <daftykins> A1Recon: you could try a resize from a livecd/USB, but you're going to ideally want to be backed up anyway
[17:42] <OerHeks> A1Recon, is it encrypted/bitlocker ?
[17:42] <vnon> siberiannerd, thank you, I will try it there
[17:44] <A1Recon> daftykins: I tried to resize using a LiveUSB but ubuntu gave this message "No OS could be found in this system so....." and it showed the complete 1 TB as empty. Someone told me it could be UEFI. I went and diabled UEFI boot in the BIOS. Gonna try installing from the LiveUSB agagin now...
[17:45] <A1Recon> OerHeks: Its not encrypted in Bitlocker
[17:45] <Pockets> I am trying to setup a server with several web services running on it. I want everything to be accessible over :80. I think a reverse proxy is what I need, but I can only find info on setting one up to direct traffic to other servers; I only have one server. Can a reverse proxy be set up to direct traffic to different ports on the same comp it is running on?
[17:45] <davido_> Hm, is everyone having the same headache today?
[17:45] <dgarstang> "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 178: debian/rules: No such file or directory" Grrr!
[17:46] <davido_> This is what greeted me today: "The upgrade needs a total of 70.6 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 15.6 M of disk space on '/boot'."
[17:46] <daftykins> A1Recon: did you install 7 in UEFI mode? if you did it recently it might just make more sense to nuke it and partition properly
[17:46] <vnon> has anyone experience or information whether hashcat works with LUKS-encryption?
[17:46] <daftykins> davido_: sounds simple enough, delete some older kernels
[17:46] <davido_> If they no longer show up in my grub boot menu, are the older ones safe to just delete?
[17:47] <daftykins> davido_: run "uname -r" and compare it with "ls /boot"
[17:47] <daftykins> you only need, at most, the one you're running now and anything newer
[17:47] <A1Recon> daftykins: OKay so I am going in for Win 7 installation without the UEFI... I looked around the BIOS menu and I disabled UEFI boot .... you sure UEFI is disabled now?
[17:48] <davido_> Yeah, uname -r shows 3.11.0-17-generic, which also happens to be the newest in ls /boot
[17:48] <daftykins> davido_: right, so apt-get remove linux-image-3.... to remove the older ones
[17:49] <daftykins> A1Recon: you should see boot entries in the BIOS/UEFI perhaps on the boot / exit pages which have like "USB flash drive" then "UEFI: USB flash drive" so you can force non-UEFI boot by not picking the UEFI one
[17:49] <davido_> Thanks.
[17:49] <davido_> ls
[17:49] <davido_> lol
[17:53] <yeyeman> I installed some icon themes, but the icons for the unity panel does not seem to be working, how can I copy the standard unity panel icons to my custom theme?
[17:54] <davido_> Thanks, removing the old kernels was painless.
[17:56] <daftykins> davido_: \o/ you could do apt-get -f install to return to completing your update
[17:56] <Black_hawx61> Is there any software for hacking wifi networks
[17:56] <davido_> already there. ;)
[17:56] <davido_> Thanks.
[17:57] <davido_> Looks like I'm getting a new kernel. lol
[17:57] <daftykins> Black_hawx61: maybe, but mostly only the old school WEP encryption that everyone's long since moved past
[17:57] <davido_> Does a plain vanilla Ubuntu desktop install use uefi?
[17:58] <daftykins> from 12.04 up ubuntu can be booted in UEFI mode, but it totally depends on your system config and whether you chose to boot that way
[17:59] <wonderworld> UEFI is a pain
[18:01] <davido_> I don't know much about it.
[18:01] <davido_> I try to stay away from boot issues as much as possible. ;)
[18:01] <daftykins> :D
[18:01] <daftykins> !uefi
[18:01] <daftykins> bit of info there if you like
[18:03] <davido_> Well, if using UEFI required anything different from the standard usb-based install, I'm probably not using it.  I find that I get along better with machines that I set up according to defaults, at least in the initial stages.
[18:03] <davido_> Ok, I guess it's time to reboot.
[18:06] <TeamRocket1233c> Would what mirror being used affect whether you can get paid support from Canonical or not?
[18:07] <TeamRocket1233c> Or are you stuck with the Canonical mirror instead of using the kernel.org mirror?
[18:07] <sudormrf> so if I am understanding this correctly, the syntax of hosts.deny is ALL: IPADDRESSTOBLOCK
[18:07] <sudormrf> correct?
[18:07] <bonafide> Hej, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 and want to pair my Wiimote as a  Raw HID-Device. Any idea on how to do that?
[18:07] <TeamRocket1233c> As the kernel.org mirror is a better mirror.
[18:09] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, why is it a better mirror ? paid support does not change mirrors
[18:09] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Faster from my understanding.
[18:09] <kemuffkamelen> I love how my anger is supressed by the connection speeds..
[18:10] <bonafide> Hej, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 and want to pair my Wiimote as raw HID-Device via Bluetooth. Any idea on how to do that? I get the error-message, that setup of said device failed.
[18:10] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: kernel.org is a really fast mirror.
[18:13] <TeamRocket1233c> Of course if you gotta use the Canonical mirrors, that's cool too.
[18:14] <sudormrf> can someone confirm that the syntax for the hosts.deny file is correct?
[18:16] <jpds> TeamRocket1233c: Doesn't matter which mirror you use.
[18:16] <TeamRocket1233c> jpds: Cool. Just checking on that. :D
[18:17] <TeamRocket1233c> Heading off for now.
[18:18] <sudormrf> for hosts.deny is the following syntax correct to block a specific IP address? ALL: IP.ADD.RE.SS
[18:18] <jpds> sudormrf: There's only one way to find out.
[18:18] <jpds> sudormrf:
[18:18] <jpds> sudormrf: And that's to do it and see for yourself.
[18:19] <Ontological> Hey guys. I just installed 13.10 and I am not able to install new Window Border Themes.   What I mean is, if I install a GTK3 theme in ~/.themes, I only see it show up as a GTK theme (colours of elements, such as dropdown, menu items, etc) and not able to set "Current Theme", which is what changes the actual border/title bar of windows. I've tries editing gsettings.py, which did not work.  Any suggestions?
[18:19] <sudormrf> jpds: that is not a helpful answer at all.
[18:20] <daftykins> sudormrf: is there a man page on it at all? "man hosts.deny" or similar?
[18:20] <wonderworld> sudormrf: yes, you are right, i was wrong. it's not just the IP. its daemon : IP
[18:20] <sudormrf> daftykins: I checked the man page and it didn't really list syntax for IP addresses, just web sites.
[18:20] <wonderworld> sudormrf: so if you wanto to block access completely its ALL : I.P
[18:20] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:20] <sudormrf> wonderworld: thanks.  I just found this as well: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23163/how-to-edit-hosts-deny-and-hosts-allow
[18:21] <jpds> I tend to use iptables to block things.
[18:21] <sudormrf> jpds: you are very late to the conversation.  we already covered IP tables :).
[18:22] <realmen> hi
[18:24] <jolson> Hopefully quick question: On my laptop, the function key for reducing screen brightness works, but not the one for increasing brightness. I have reduced it a bit and can't get it back up. Is there any temporary fix for this, such as a command I can run to increase the brightness? (Complication: The computer does not have an Internet connection.)
[18:24] <sudormrf> wonderworld: now I have the first large piece.  All I need to figure out is how to have the info that is written by fail2ban in the iptables written to the hosts.deny lists with "ALL:" appended in front of the address. :D
[18:25] <ActionPa1snip> jolson: what model laptop?
[18:26] <wonderworld> sudormrf: iptables -L lists all your rules. this should be your starting point
[18:26] <jolson> ActionPa1snip: Based on Clevo W230ST <http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=474>
[18:27] <Ontological> Looking for some help where when installing new GTK3 themes in .themes/, They don't show up as "Current Theme" options (ie: I cannot change the window border)
[18:27] <ActionPa1snip> jolson: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:28] <ActionPa1snip> Ontological: have you tried Unity tweak
[18:28] <jolson> ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch) \n \l
[18:28] <ActionPa1snip> jolson: then you need to ask in #ubuntu+1   not here, til release day
[18:28] <jolson> ActionPa1snip: I'm running off a live USB stick. (13.10 wouldn't boot)
[18:29] <bonafide> Hej, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 and want to pair my Wiimote as raw HID-Device via Bluetooth. Any idea on how to do that? I get the error-message, that setup of said device failed.
[18:29] <jolson> ActionPa1snip: I was thinking that perhaps there is a general answer. For example, what command does the OS run when it senses that I pressed a brightness button?
[18:30] <sudormrf> wonderworld: way past that already :D
[18:30] <ActionPa1snip> jolson: Trusty isnt supported here til release day
[18:30] <daftykins> jolson: have you tried putting the mains power in to see if it puts it up to max?
[18:30] <wonderworld> sudormrf: nice, i think you can do it :)
[18:30] <sudormrf> wonderworld: this is what I have: iptables -L -n | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' | grep -v 0.0.0.0 > /home/USERNAME/Documents/ip.blacklist.test
[18:30] <bekks> jolson: Thats a hardwired button most likely, and your hardware is responsible for doing something, not the OS.
[18:30] <jolson> daftykins: The power chord is already in.
[18:30] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:31] <daftykins> jolson: google the model, usually there's some /proc/acpi/backlight path or something
[18:36] <Ontological> No matter how I install themes in 13.10 (Through a PPA, or unzipping to ~/.themes), no theme EVER shows up on my "Current Themes" list, but does show up as a GTK theme.  I'm getting really frustrated becuase no suggestion are working to allow me to theme my window borders :\
[18:36] <mmignon> hi
[18:36] <sharpshooter> Hi folks, I have confused about the Idea of mailing system in LAM(PHP),  I  need a localhost with PHP that can send mail to any other email address ? I already installed postfix in my system with satellite  option still there is no mail is going to outside ? what is the preferd way to setup any articles or guidance will be appreciate :)
[18:39] <davido_> Where do I find the release notes for a given kernel?
[18:39] <davido_> 3.11.0-18-generic, for example.
[18:39] <jolson> bekks: I now realize that if I set the brightness all the way down to zero, I _can_ increase it one step up again, but no more. Strange.
[18:41] <jolson> daftykins: So, the path differs from model to model?
[18:41] <bonafide> Hej, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 and want to pair my Wiimote as raw HID-Device via Bluetooth. Any idea on how to do that? I get the error-message, that setup of said device failed.
[18:41] <genii> davido_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/saucy-changes/2014-March/013471.html
[18:42] <davido_> thanks.
[18:42] <irssi-mi1e> sharpshooter: mx record
[18:42] <ActionPa1snip> bonafide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CWiiD
[18:42] <jolson> ActionPa1snip: I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 on the computer I'm writing on right now. Can I ask about how to do it on that one? :-)
[18:43] <ActionPa1snip> jolson: 11.04 is no longer supported. It is EOL (end of life)
[18:43] <sharpshooter> irssi-mi1e, mx record ? can you explan what it is ?
[18:43] <jolson> ActionPa1snip: Aww. :-)
[18:44] <area51pilot> have a display issue (flickering mouse)...runing 13.10 x64 fully updated and mouse flickers whenever I have multiple monitors enabled (laptop built in and external hdmi)  I have a 3rd unknown monitor (disabled)
[18:44] <area51pilot> any fixes for this?
[18:44] <ActionPa1snip> area51pilot: is it the same in a non-compoziting session like xfce?
[18:45] <area51pilot> ActionPalsnip: dont know ... only running Unity
[18:45] <ActionPa1snip> area51pilot: run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4    log off and log in to the XFCE session in LightDM
[18:45] <ActionPa1snip> area51pilot: is it better there?
[18:45] <area51pilot> Ill try it
[18:51] <sudormrf> ActionPa1snip: question for you.  would you happen to know how I could write a lot of data from one file to another, appending something to each line as it writes?
[18:52] <jolson> Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I solved my brightness problem thus: sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness < /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[18:58] <sudormrf> can someone help me figure out how to export the IP addresses that are listed in IP Tables to the hosts.deny list automatically?
[18:58] <area51pilot> ActionPa1snip,  I switched to the XFCE desktop and the flickering went away (although the second monitor dispaly was horrible, as the mouse moved across it it painted the display with what should be show vs. the previous display view)
[19:00] <sudormrf> hmm
[19:00] <Phibonacci> Hello. I just installed ubuntu on my school computer and grub could not install (fatal error). I wanted to restore it from the liveCD but I only have "grub-installer", not "grub-install" and I can't find any documentation about it.
[19:01] <sudormrf> or if anyone knows how to configure deny hosts to do something very specific I think it that may work.
[19:01] <bekks> !grub2 | Phibonacci
[19:01] <ActionPa1snip> area51pilot: sounds like an issue with Compiz
[19:02] <area51pilot> ActionPalsnip, OK
[19:03] <Jpmh> Things like Thunderbird somehow cause the "little envelope" on the status bar of my system to get updated when I get new mail.  Is there some easy way to use this feature in my Apps?
[19:03] <gordonjcp> Jpmh: look up notifications
[19:05] <Phibonacci> I don't have the liveCD, only the installation disc. There is no way to repair it with that ?
[19:05] <Jpmh> gordonjcp: all I seem to find there is the "notification bubbles" - surely this is not what I am refering to
[19:06] <area51pilot> Acs
[19:06] <gordonjcp> Jpmh: I know one of the thunderbird plugins does it, you could poke about in that?
[19:09] <krytarik> Jpmh: Please see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu
[19:11] <guzzlefry> So, I'm reading through this OpenVPN guide, Where exactly is this? "Place the client.ovpn (or client.conf) configuration file along with the certificate and key files in the openvpn configuration directory on the client."
[19:11] <guzzlefry> guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[19:13] <yeats> guzzlefry: if you're setting up an ubuntu client, that can all be done within NetworkManager
[19:13] <krissa> int main() {  	if( !malloc(0x0c0ffee) ) { 		setuid(geteuid()); 		execve("/bin/sh", 0, 0); 	} }
[19:13] <krissa> what this means
[19:13] <krissa> can anybody help me
[19:14] <wonderworld> krissa: it means you need more coffee
[19:14] <krissa> didnt get u
[19:14] <yeats> !details | krissa
[19:14] <yeats> !behelpful | krissa
[19:14] <area51pilot> I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 x 64 updated and am facing constant issue with mouse flickers when 2nd external monitor is on in Unity.  The secondary screen is having significant lag while screen updates and i can see cursor trails on the screen.  Any ideas how to fix besides disabling the "unknown" monitor that also is showing?
[19:14] <yeats> !behelpful | wonderworld
[19:15] <yeats> krissa: let us know the context of your questions
[19:15] <krissa> sir iam just asking thats it but not joking
[19:15] <yeats> krissa: sorry - that "be helpful" message  was not meant for you - my mistake
[19:15] <guzzlefry> yeats: I'd rather just throw them into a directory if possible. I already have the config/certs. I've been running sudo openvpn /path/to/config/config.conf but want it to start up automatically.
[19:15] <krissa> ok sir
[19:16] <krissa> sir how to pass the control to the if
[19:16] <krissa> in the above program
[19:17] <yeats> krissa: you should probably ask in #programming - this channel is for Ubuntu OS support
[19:17] <Phibonacci> krissa: what do you want to do ?
[19:18] <Phibonacci> you can LD_PRELOAD on malloc to make it fail
[19:21] <User321> sg no-internet "ping www.google.com" produces crypt: Invalid argument error
[19:21] <User321> Am i doing something wrong?
[19:21] <sudormrf> hey guys, since denyhosts is using regexs should I be able to use the same syntax I use for fail2ban with denyhosts?
[19:25] <davgp> Does it make any difference for the average layman whether they run Ubuntu on AMD or Intel?
[19:26] <davgp> i don't care about gaming performance
[19:26] <davgp> just regular stuff
[19:27] <Pessimist> davgp, Intel 99% of the time works better, especially for regular stuff, no heavyweight 3d games
[19:27] <gordonjcp> davgp: not massively
[19:27] <gordonjcp> davgp: Intel is generally less hassle, although older chipsets can have some "funnies"
[19:29] <OerHeks> gordonjcp +1 sure intel has funnies :-D
[19:29] <davgp> ok
[19:29] <davgp> I'm looking for the cheapest laptop out there that I can buy new today which can run Ubuntu
[19:30] <davgp> asus vivobook s200e is one
[19:30] <OerHeks> !hcl
[19:30] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: the glyph corruption thing is annoying
[19:32] <samathy> You could always buy a Chromebook and stick Ubuntu on it, i've heard that works well.
[19:32] <davgp> samathy: yes but doesn't that require some chrubuntu or something?
[19:32] <davgp> a hacked ubuntu
[19:32] <doomlord_> yikes. i was updatintg from 13.04->13.10 when my laptop froze (nothing responding to cursor, visuals not updating) - i left it for a long time, eventually powered it down. Of course powering it up again, it fails to boot ubuntu now. :( it can still boot windows, and i can get grub commandline. i can't get to the bios to boot from CD strangely. (vaio s 15 , f2,f11,f12, del all tried.. nbothign brings up the bios)
[19:33] <doomlord_> is it possible to do anything about the linux partitions from windows perhaps
[19:33] <doomlord_> is there a grub command to boot from usb
[19:36] <doomlord_> is there a grub command to boot from the dvd drive
[19:36] <daftykins> doomlord_: pretty sure a system would support such boot natively
[19:37] <Dmole> Are http://dell-mini.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/s/sl-modem/ the best option for 56k modem drivers?
[19:37] <irssi-mi1e> doomlord_: i'm not sure, um can't you hold down c at BIOS or press ESC to boot from USB
[19:37] <doomlord_> i'm certain thats how i installed it too, dvd.. i have several dvds lying around
[19:37] <doomlord_> with ubuntu 13.04 written on them
[19:37] <daftykins> doomlord_: your best bet is to boot a liveCD and chroot
[19:37] <daftykins> !chroot | doomlord_
[19:37] <OerHeks> doomlord_, if you cannot get into your bios, remove powercord + battery, hold powerbutton for 10 sec and connect powercord/battery again
[19:37] <doomlord_> yeah i know
[19:38] <doomlord_> its getting to boot a liveCD that is the sticking point :)
[19:38] <doomlord_> i haven't tried the 'disconnect battery' , that 'resets the bios' or soemting i guess?
[19:38] <irssi-mi1e> doomlord_: that should clear your CMOS but not completely, you'd have to pull the watch battery to clear it all out
[19:39] <sudormrf> so will a regex I use for fail2ban work with denyhosts?
[19:39] <doomlord_> lets try bootinb with 'c' first .. i've tried f2,f3, f8, f11, f12, del, 'assist' :)
[19:40] <irssi-mi1e> doomlord_: hold it down until it boots from CD
[19:40] <irssi-mi1e> or beeps at you
[19:40] <Dmole> sudormrf: just use ssh keys
[19:40] <sudormrf> Dmole: this is not for ssh
[19:40] <doomlord_> its never booting from cd yet - the first thing to appear after the bios is always grub
[19:40] <doomlord_> ubuntu itself trying to boot gets as far as something about midi .. it does print error messages
[19:41] <doomlord_> broken install
[19:41] <irssi-mi1e> doomlord_: holding c before grub so that it skips all hard disks and boots from CD
[19:41] <sudormrf> so I ask again, will the regexs I use for fail2ban translate to denyhosts?
[19:42] <doomlord_> irssi-mi1e, thanks i'll try but i just did and no avail. i've seen 'c' getting a grub command line, i know you mean *before* grub.. i'm trying holding the c key whislt its powered off, then power on
[19:42] <Dmole> sudormrf: why don't you just rey it?
[19:42] <Dmole> *try
[19:42] <doomlord_> I wonder if my DVD drive is dodgy
[19:43] <b1g3m> it could be that your dvd driver is non existent...
[19:43] <sudormrf> Dmole: because I am not sure how to test it.  with fail2ban you can test a regex before entering it.  I am not sure if you can do the same thing with denyhosts
[19:43] <b1g3m> no chance of booting from flashdrive?
[19:43] <sudormrf> hence the reason I am here asking the question.
[19:44] <irssi-mi1e> doomlord_: i guess it could have come loose
[19:44] <Dmole> sudormrf: just inject a test line into your log, run the denyhosts, then check your firewall
[19:44] <sudormrf> Dmole: how can I inject a test line in to my log?
[19:44] <User321> running sg no-internet "firefox" produces crypt: Invalid argument error. Is there a reason why it does that?
[19:44] <doomlord_> the DVD itself was filthy, i've given it a wipe :)
[19:44] <Dmole> echo "whatever" >> /var/log/whatever.log
[19:44] <alnkpa2> if I'm developing a program that wants to save settings, is there a canonical directory to do that?
[19:45] <Dmole> sudormrf: echo "whatever" >> /var/log/whatever.log
[19:46] <doomlord_> ok its doing something differnt now, like its' actually trying to load something . i could need to clean it better :)
[19:46] <bekks> alnkpa2: ~/.yourapp/
[19:46] <davgp> Can Asus VivoBook S200E-CT320H boot an ubuntu installer from an external usb drive?
[19:46] <OerHeks> alnkpa2, /usr/local/share/applications/
[19:46] <sudormrf> Dmole: that is pretty simple.  let me try and see what happens.
[19:46] <doomlord_> entropy all around me
[19:47] <b1g3m> davgp: check the bios to see if it has a usb boot option
[19:47] <Dmole> sudormrf: first look at  tail /var/log/whatever.log to make sure the format is foreect
[19:47] <Dmole> *correct
[19:47] <alnkpa2> bekks, OerHeks: thanks, the hidden dir in the home directory seems to be good
[19:48] <sudormrf> Dmole: thanks.  I know the exact message I need to inject, just need to be able to test the regex
[19:49] <sudormrf> this will probably work
[20:01] <shingdayho> list
[20:01] <shingdayho> #list
[20:01] <shingdayho> list
[20:02] <levo> i need a software which does some word frequency analysis on documents for data mining purposes, can you suggest anything?
[20:03] <bekks> sort uniq wc ;)
[20:04] <levo> bekks: hahaa
[20:04] <Black_hawx61> is there any way to install wine offline
[20:05] <basil> Hi does anyone know what the real value of /etc/resolvconf/resolve.conf.d/original should be ? It lists the nameserver.
[20:06] <angelos_> Im trying to install wubi on windows but I keep getting an error that the file or directory already exists.. Can someone tell me where the preexisting file is so I can delete it?
[20:07] <Dmole> basil: ask your isp, or use google 8.8.8.8 ?
[20:08] <linuxuz3r> hi
[20:08] <shingdayho> hey dude
[20:08] <basil> i tried 8.8.8.8  and that 'broke it". My networking has now gone from unable to connect to failures when i start the system
[20:08] <shingdayho> have you tried sudo service network restart
[20:08] <frodopwns> basil what were you trying to do?
[20:09] <Dmole> basil: you know it's "nameserver 8.8.8.8" not just "8.8.8.8" right?
[20:09] <basil> frodopwns: I can't connect to the internet form my freshly installed server. I could ping almost everywhere, but no interent
[20:10] <frodopwns> there should be a symlink at /etc/resolv.conf
[20:10] <frodopwns> I removed the symlink on my servers and replaced it with a text file
[20:10] <frodopwns> then in the file I put nameserver 8.8.8.8
[20:10] <basil> Dmole: yes that's what I had...and just wanted to change it back to its default to get networking working again
 how do I remove the symlink? I think DNS has been my issue
[20:11] <frodopwns> sudo rm /etc/resulv.conf
[20:12] <frodopwns> typo there
[20:12] <frodopwns> resolv.conf
and then where did you put the dns-nameserver info
[20:12] <frodopwns> remake that file
[20:12] <frodopwns> sudo vim /etc/resolv.conf
[20:13] <frodopwns> then type nameserver 8.8.8.8
[20:13] <frodopwns> save
[20:13] <frodopwns> then restart networking service
[20:14] <Ontological> No matter how I install themes in 13.10 (Through a PPA, or unzipping to ~/.themes), no theme EVER shows up on my "Current Themes" list, but does show up as a GTK theme.  I'm getting really frustrated because no suggestion are working to allow me to theme my window borders :\
[20:14] <Dmole> it might want 2 nameservers the other google one is 8.8.4.4 or something
[20:14] <Ontological> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, yes
you're a genius...2 days of pulling hair out
 thank you
[20:18] <ansel> hi
[20:21] <doomlord_> now i'm trying to burn a disk in windows ... on the same laptop (the one with the broken ubuntu install) .. it looks like the drive itself is unhealthy, it wont recognize blank DVD's to burn to, always makes similar noises..
[20:21] <doomlord_> seems i'll have to resign myself to it being a Windows laptop unless I can figure out USB boot, or getting the bios to appear (i still haven't tried the battery out reset)
[20:22] <thegreenhundred> doomlord: what model is your laptop?
[20:23] <Dmole> doomlord_: google it it's different for every vender
[20:23] <Chaser> windows server 2008R2 or 2012 machine can be used to create
[20:24] <Moony22> Hello
[20:24] <Jordan_U> doomlord_: It's easy to boot from USB via the grub shell.
[20:24] <Moony22> What version of ubuntu is based on debian wheezy?
[20:25] <A1Recon> I have one question. Really frustrated now, banging my head on the wall actually. So here it goes... I just installed Win7 Ultimate 64-bit on my Asus K55VM-SX086D laptop. Then I installed the drivers. Then I wanted to shrink the 931.4GB C Drive to 200GB but found that I am only allowed to do this upto 470GB. Why is this happening? I have done the shrinking thing a number of times on my desktop. So why isn't it working now?
[20:25] <Dmole> don't know about easy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[20:25] <rww> Moony22: Ubuntu pulls from Debian unstable, not Debian stable.
[20:25] <doomlord_> i've got some instructions from the web, i'll try that..
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Moony22: Ubuntu releases are based on Unstable or (for LTS releases) Testing.
[20:25] <mgolisch> A1Recon: tried defragmenting first?
[20:25] <Dmole> A1Recon: partition before you install
[20:25] <rww> Jordan_U: oh, they're still doing that? I thought they did one LTS on testing and then decided it was a bad idea.
[20:26] <Jordan_U> rww: Not sure actually.
[20:26] <mgolisch> some more advanced defragmentation tools allow to move all data to the start of the partition
[20:26] <Moony22> Jordan_U + rww: oh
[20:26]  * rww ponders a universe package with different versions in unstable and testing
[20:27] <rww> oh, i know
[20:27] <rww> !info bitcoin-qt trusty
[20:27] <DJones> A1Recon: Thats a limitation of windows, if there are files on the drive that can't be moved, the last file on the drive limits how much you can shrink, the Windows defrag doesn't always defrag well enough, so you might have to find a 3rd party defragger that may work better
[20:27] <rww> hrm
[20:27] <A1Recon> mgolisch: I tried it last time. No change whatsoever. So I reinstalled Win7 and I hoped that it(shrinking) would work! But no...
[20:28] <rww> !info boinc-app-seti trusty
[20:28] <rww> !info boinc-app-seti unstable
[20:28] <rww> Jordan_U: looks like you're correct
[20:28] <A1Recon> DJones: please suggest a good one.... I don't think I have the patience to try new ones....
[20:28] <mgolisch> A1Recon: or just partition the disk beforehand
[20:28] <DJones> A1Recon: I can't I don't use windows unless I'm forced to
[20:28] <rww> Jordan_U: oh, that one only got uploaded recently, maybe not. oh well.
[20:29] <mgolisch> the windows installer actualy allows you to create partitions manualy
[20:29] <A1Recon> DJones: Oh... OK
[20:29] <hydruid> What is the recommended wmic package replacement for quantal?
[20:29] <DJones> A1Recon: I just remember reading that a couple of days back when I was setting up a new laptop myself
[20:29] <hydruid> oops I mean precise
[20:30] <hydruid> it looks like the wmic package is dead, whats the best way to do WMI queries from an ubuntu box now?
[20:30] <A1Recon> OK will try a defragger...now
[20:31] <unstable> My cpu MHz is low, on the latest 13.10; It makes everything slow. I have 1800, though it shows at 800
[20:31] <fm__> l
[20:31] <unstable> I don't mess with these settings, so I"m not sure why it's low. How can I fix this?
[20:31] <unstable> I basically have all stock/default everthing
[20:32] <unstable> eg, when I cat /proc/cpuinfo it says 800mhz, but it should be 1800
[20:35] <DJones> unstable: This is just a guess, but is it a laptop and are you running on battery? It could be a power/battery saving process
[20:35] <unstable> DJones: It's a laptop, I'm connected to a power source
[20:35] <SloggerKhan> I can't log into the forums. I just get a blank page with a url like "https://login.ubuntu.com/bgNgmjRzXhp2P2Lt/+decide" after clicking the "yes, log me in" button.
[20:35] <unstable> DJones: ok, unplugging and plugging back in fixed it
[20:35] <unstable> weird
[20:36] <DJones> unstable: Maybe it just hadn't detected the mains connection
[20:36] <unstable> yay for being fast again
[20:36] <sudormrf> does anyone know if denyhosts has an IRC channel? I looked, but couldn't find anything
[20:40] <doomlord_> looks like i need a trip to get a new usb stick, every stick i have is failing to format
[20:44] <shingdayho> anybody know any good programs that can IP Scan
[20:44] <mgolisch> nmap?
[20:44] <shingdayho> A bit like an NMap but for IP's
[20:44] <shingdayho> For example ...
[20:45] <Bsims> nmap on a range?
[20:45] <shingdayho> On my Mikrotik I can scan 192.168.0.1/24 and it will ping every IP on that subnet (254 hosts) and say which one came up
[20:45] <shingdayho> Can you do that??
[20:45] <Pici> shingdayho: nmap can do that
[20:45] <shingdayho> Oh fair enough, thanks :D!
[20:46] <awesomess3> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and the latest Firefox I can install is 20.0. Would it be easy to install Firefox 27.0? How should I do it?
[20:47] <cescu> hi everyone, is testdisk still the best tool to recover data (video data)?
[20:48] <bobby_> hello
[20:49] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I am trying to figure out how to write information that is in the iptables into the deny.hosts list on a regular basis.  is anyone around that can help out with that?
[20:49] <Beldar> !best | cescu
[20:50] <mgolisch> awesomess3: looked for a ppa? or maybe just upgrade to a more recent ubuntu release?
[20:50] <guntbert> !eol | awesomess3
[20:51] <guntbert> awesomess3: 10.04 support ended May 2013
[20:51] <sudormrf> Pici: would you happen to know how to accomplish what I am trying to accomplish?
[20:52] <doomlord_> i wonder if its possible to install ubuntu on a hard-drive , then install that hard-drive in the laptop
[20:52] <doomlord_> [ or would the install process have needed to query hardware ]
[20:53] <doomlord_> another possibility, could I repair the installation on that drive plugged into a working linux pc ....
[20:53] <mgolisch> probably
[20:55] <thegreenhundred> doomlord_ theoretically you could create a live cd image which loads directly into a ramdisk on the hdd, then install into the laptop and do a clean install from there..... but thats just an experiment I have been wanting to play with
[20:56] <mgolisch> and yes installing on another computer should work
[20:57] <sudormrf> hmm.  i did it with a simple loop
[20:57] <user___> quit
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[20:57] <user___> q
[20:58] <doomlord_> Installing on another computer.. easy enough, i have spare bays an a spare pc
[20:59] <thegreenhundred> doomlord_ have you tested your usb boot disk on another pc to verify its not the usb?
[20:59] <doomlord_> thegreenhundred, : yes i'm having difficulty using both USB sticks i could find on my desktop PC. they're just old, dodgy sticks.. i remember having problems before. i just need a new one.
[20:59] <doomlord_> alas i *do* have a newer stick, i just can't find it now.
[21:00] <doomlord_> i distinctly remember using it recently to install linux on a net-top
[21:01] <thegreenhundred> i know I have pulled my hair out over boot problems before only to find that i failed to format or tag the usb partitions correctly
[21:01] <sudormrf> can someone help me figure out why this is not behaving as I expect? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7052169/
[21:02] <sudormrf> the expected behavior is that the file testing2.list will be created with ALL: appended before the IP addresses.
[21:03] <geirha> that's a hell of a regex
[21:03] <geirha> but the reason is that the while read loop never gets any input
[21:04] <geirha> you have ... | grep > file | while read ...   which means grep's output is initially going to the pipe, but then the redirection redirects it to a file instead, so the while read loop has no writer at the other end of the pipe
[21:05] <rocks> I'm new to web filtering software and want to set up a strict filter. I installed dansguardian and squid. I need a frontend to configure dansguardian. I don't even know how to start it
[21:05] <rocks> what's a good frontend?
[21:08] <geirha> sudormrf: oh wait, you further have redirections on the loop too, so if you use ; instead of | between the grep -v and while read loop, it might work, assuming the current dir is /home/USERNAME/Documents
[21:10] <OerHeks> rocks, dansguardian privoxy squid > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls#DansGuardian.2BAC8-Privoxy.2BAC8-Squid
[21:10] <sudormrf> geirha: let me give it a shot
[21:10] <maveas> Anyone with fwknop experience?
[21:10] <sudormrf> geirha: that did it :)
[21:10] <sudormrf> now to get it working with cron
[21:12] <geirha> sudormrf: for cron, you'll either need to provide absolute path to testing.list and testing2.list, or do a cd first
[21:12] <sudormrf> geirha: that was why I used /home/USERNAME/Documents
[21:12] <sudormrf> geirha: I was having problems with that first part of the command with cron before
[21:12] <sudormrf> may be better to turn this in to a script that runs
[21:12] <geirha> sudormrf: you didn't on the loop
[21:13] <sudormrf> geirha: no no no.  I mean the iptables -L -n part
[21:13] <sudormrf> before the loo[
[21:13] <sudormrf> before the loop
[21:13] <geirha> sudormrf: < testing.list > testing2.list
[21:14] <sudormrf> geirha: OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
[21:14] <sudormrf> thanks!
[21:14] <geirha> depending on which crontab you use, the starting directory might be / or the homedir of the current user
[21:14] <sudormrf> geirha: root crontab
[21:14] <geirha> sudormrf: then /
[21:15] <sudormrf> geirha: I think it will probably be better to put this in to a script file and have cron run it.  would you agree?
[21:16] <Emi> hey
[21:16] <Jordan_U> doomlord_: You can definitely install Ubuntu on another machine and transfer the hard drive. Your only (easily fixable) problem will be if the machine the drive will end up in boots via UEFI.
[21:16] <doomlord_> its bought in 2012
[21:17] <geirha> sudormrf: Sure; will make the crontab more readable
[21:17] <doomlord_> perhaps i can source a nice SSD while i'm at it.
[21:18] <adamcunnington> Is it ok to run npm install -g bower as root? (sudo)
[21:18] <adamcunnington> -g makes the bower command available globally which I guess needs root access
[21:19] <Jordan_U> doomlord_: What about the machine you'll be using to install Ubuntu?
[21:21] <Jordan_U> doomlord_: If one machine boots via UEFI and the other via BIOS, then you'll have some hoops to jump through.
[21:21] <platowise> hello
[21:21] <platowise> question about apt here
[21:21] <platowise> anyone want to help?
[21:21] <Ontological> platowise: Just ask
[21:22] <platowise> kk
[21:22] <Ontological> <3
[21:22] <platowise> I have a package which somehow updates
[21:22] <sudormrf> platowise: !ask
[21:22] <platowise> I want to remove it from updates
[21:22] <sudormrf> !bot
[21:22] <Ontological> platowise: What are you trying to do?  Lock a package at a certain version?
[21:22] <sudormrf> !justask
[21:22] <Ontological> platowise: Like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package
[21:22] <platowise> apt-get update
[21:22] <platowise> updates a package which is not there
[21:22] <doomlord_> Jordan_U,  i'll probably put it to one side and wait till i get a new USB stick, then try again.
[21:23] <platowise> I want to remove it from the update list
[21:23] <platowise> it's not installed
[21:23] <Ontological> platowise: Try not to use enter as punctuation
[21:23] <Ontological> <3
[21:23] <platowise> well sorry, I'm an IRC fan
[21:24] <platowise> not
[21:24] <Jordan_U> platowise: apt doesn't update packages that aren't installed. What is the name of the package that you want removed? Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get remove packagename".
[21:25] <ItsYoda> Getting Error: no such device bed05edcd05e9a8b on boot, any ideas?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: Do you have more than one hard drive? Does this machine boot via BIOS or UEFI?
[21:25] <sudormrf> geirha: cool.  so now time to test it with cron
[21:26] <ItsYoda> One hard drive.  No cd disks, bios
[21:26] <ItsYoda> Tried removing all my usb connections,  no use.
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: Is this a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[21:26] <platowise> the repo does not exist anymore
[21:27] <ItsYoda> It's been installed for ages, but I have nothing on it. I've recently partitioned drives on windows, will that mess with it?
[21:28] <platowise> is it possible to edit the update list manually?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> platowise: So the problem is that apt-get update is trying to update information about a *repository*, not a package, correct? Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update", the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list, and the output of "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/".
[21:29] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: If you deleted your Ubuntu partition, or if you have a buggy BIOS and moved the start of the Ubuntu partition to later in the drive, yes. What exactly did you do?
[21:30] <platowise> it works. many thanks
[21:30] <platowise> I removed from that folder
[21:30] <ItsYoda> I used a drive partitioner on windows to split my C drive into 1 100gb storage and leave the rest
[21:30] <Jordan_U> platowise: You're welcome.
[21:30] <sudormrf> geirha: you still around?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: I don't understand your last sentence. Did you make your "C" partition smaller and use that free space to create another partition?
[21:32] <ItsYoda> Yeah, sorry.
[21:32] <ItsYoda> C partition was 2tb, now it's ~1800gb - I have another drive now which is 100gb in size
[21:32] <sona> Hi bro,...
[21:32] <ItsYoda> Should I just go ahead and re-install Ubuntu?
[21:33] <ItsYoda> If so, how would I go about deleting the current Ubuntu?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: Partitions are not drives. Please use the correct terminology to avoid confusion.
[21:33] <sona> I want an application of the dictionary english-french
[21:33] <bsmith093> I'm having a very common problem, apparently. my laptop screen wont turn back on when i close the lid. ive set the power options to blank the screen when i do that, and it does, but when I reopen it it only sometimes shows the lockscreen again. other times it either glows black or does not even turn on.
[21:33] <sona> person to help me?
[21:33] <bsmith093> mint maya
[21:33] <ItsYoda> Ok, sorry. C drive is now split into 2 partitons, ~1800gb and 100gb
[21:34] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: So you are fairly sure that you didn't change the Ubuntu partition in any way?
[21:34] <ItsYoda> That's the thing I'm not too sure about
[21:34] <Beldar> bsmith093, Mint is supported on their channels.
[21:34] <bsmith093> where?
[21:34] <Pinkamena_D> I have a computer positioned at the piano so I can sight read things without wasting paper. In looking for a good way to scroll through files of music, I considered hooking up a racing wheel which had analog pedals and mapping the 'gas' to scroll down and the 'brake' to scroll up. Any idea where I can start?
[21:34] <genii> !mintsupport
[21:35] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: Please boot from a LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESUTS.txt that it produces.
[21:35] <genii> Beldar: See above
[21:35] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ItsYoda
[21:35] <Beldar> genii, I don't use mint.
[21:35] <genii> bsmith093: That was for you, rather. Apologies on misdirect to Beldar
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: That's a brilliant idea. Do you already have this racing wheel/pedals?
[21:38] <adamcunnington> Hi, is it ok to run npm install -g bower as sudo?
[21:38] <Beldar> Pinkamena_D, Out of curiosity, what are you sight reading?
[21:41] <bonafide> Hej, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 and want to pair my Wiimote as raw HID-Device via Bluetooth. Any idea on how to do that? I get the error-message, that setup of said device failed.
[21:42] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I would like to copy the contents of one file into another without creating a new file and without destroying the contents of the original.  can I do this with cat?
[21:42] <Pinkamena_D> Sorry
[21:42] <Pinkamena_D> Yes, I already have a wheel
[21:42] <Pinkamena_D> Yes, is would be for sight reading or music I really like. :)
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Please connect the wheel, run "xev", press the gas pedal, then the break pedal, and pastebin the output.
[21:45] <adamcunnington> Hi, is it ok to run npm install -g bower as sudo?
[21:45] <ikonia> what do you mean "is it ok"?
[21:51] <Pinkamena_D> Ive been trying to get xev to show some output when I press the pedals
[21:52] <Pinkamena_D> it should update presumably, you dont want just what it says when it starts?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Correct, I was hoping that it would give some output, but I don't have much experience with non-keyboard/mouse input devices.
[21:53] <Ontological> 13.10 I am able to change my Keyboard Shortcuts through System Settings.  Unfortunately, even though I can edit them there, they aren't 'live'. ie: I specifically set my Volume Up key, but get no increase in volume.  Any suggestions?
[21:54] <malfrere> hey I was having a disk error,  it was showing ls: cannot access .: Input/output error
[21:54] <kostkon> Pinkamena_D, you could try with antimicro http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/map-keyboardmouse-input-to-your-gamepad.html
[21:54] <malfrere> this is not my root dir, so I was able to unmount it after some trouble with gvfs
[21:54] <sudormrf> so can anyone point me in the right direction for appending text from one file into another without destroying the contents of the original and without having to create a new file?
[21:54] <ikonia> sudormrf: cat file1 >> file2
[21:55] <phibonacci> hello, grub failed to install during the installation of ubuntu. I managed to install it after that using the live CD and grub-install but I still have only the "grub rescue" prompt at boot
[21:55] <malfrere> but now I can't remount it or open it with fdisk or parted or testdisk etc... I get fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdc: No such device or address
[21:55] <phibonacci> could you help me ?
[21:55] <anudasanudasis> sudormrf: use >>
[21:55] <ikonia> malfrere: disk is not there
[21:56] <sudormrf> hmm
[21:56] <malfrere> ikonia: that's what I thought but I just opened up the case and sure enough, it's in there plugged in and all
[21:56] <sudormrf> let me test it, because I am not sure that >> is going to give me the behavior i want.  let's try :D
[21:56] <Jordan_U> malfrere: That doesn't mean that the hardware hasn't failed (which, unfortunately, it almost certainly has from your description).
[21:57] <Ritzton> hello
[21:57] <z1haze> any know a good list of games than can be hosted on private dedicated servers? ive been looking around and it seems the really popular games dont have open server files, like battlefield and cod ghosts
[21:57] <malfrere> yeah I am trying to figure that out, (hopefully not its an 8TB disk with a ton of research on it)
[21:57] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: If that doesn't give the behavior you want, then you'll need to describe more clearly what the intended behavior is.
[21:57] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: I described it multiple times.
[21:57] <Ritzton> Could you tell me what are the other option for running a node.js app on 80 port without being root, I tried "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 2000" but it doesn't work I got the message " iptables: No chain/target/match by that name" I think it might be possible it doesn't work this solution because I am on a virtual server
[21:57] <anudasanudasis> sudormrf: you can use for example dmesg >> test.tx and you can run it twice
[21:58] <sudormrf> lol it worked.  and here I was thinking that the solution was going to have to be far more complex
[21:58] <sudormrf> haha
[21:58] <sudormrf> anudasanudasis: it worked.  I was thinking it was going to be way more complex.  I was looking at using sed to do it, but this worked.  now on to the next piece.
[21:58] <malfrere> Jordan_U: do you know if there's a way to verify a disk failure when you can't see it in any disk tool programs?
[21:58] <ikonia> malfrere: an 8TB disk.....
[21:59] <bonafide> How do I pair a Wiimote as a raw HID device?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> malfrere: You'll likely see some error messages about it in "dmesg".
[22:00] <malfrere> yeah actually now I'm realizing it's a gvfs array of probably two 4TBs and I think my problem is more related to that...
[22:00] <malfrere> hmmmm...I'll probably be back
[22:02] <phibonacci> I tried this : http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Cannot_Find_A_Device_For_boot/grub
[22:03] <phibonacci> it sais "installation successful not error reported" but it's still buggy
[22:03] <ikonia> phibonacci: "still buggy"
[22:03] <ikonia> phibonacci: how about explaining the problem
[22:04] <phibonacci> again ?
[22:04] <phibonacci> I installed ubuntu but grub failed to install (fatal error)
[22:04] <phibonacci> I managed to install it via grub-install but I boot on grub rescue
[22:05] <phibonacci> (grub-install on a livecd)
[22:05] <ikonia> boot on grub rescue ???
[22:05] <ikonia> I'm really sorry I don't know what you're saying beyond the failure to install grub during the installer
[22:05] <phibonacci> it's a very basic shell from grub when it fails to launch properly
[22:05] <phibonacci> I don't know neither, it just failed with a fatal error
[22:06] <phibonacci> he was not very specific about it
[22:06] <ikonia> who is he ?
[22:06] <ikonia> he ?
[22:06] <phibonacci> grub :D
[22:07] <Jordan_U> ikonia: For my ability to use /lastlog if nothing else, please use people's nicks in your messages.
[22:07] <phibonacci> I also tried some of those solutions : http://askubuntu.com/questions/197833/recovering-from-grub-rescue-crash
[22:07] <bonafide> How do I pair a Wiimote as a raw HID device?
[22:07] <Ontological> I am having serious issues with 13.10 and theme support.  If anybody here has knowledge in this area, please take a look at more information posted here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/431063/cannot-change-window-border-of-gnome-classic-session
[22:08] <malfrere> so this is the other disk which also reports as 8TB but for some reason doesn't have a partition table http://paste.ubuntu.com/7052476/
[22:08] <phibonacci> it's important to note I had already a grub, opensuse and a windows before the installation
[22:08] <phibonacci> I replaced the / partition of my opensuse but kept the /home
[22:08] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: What is the exact grub-install command you ran? Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based system?
[22:09] <ikonia> malfrere: it does have a partition table, a gpt partition table, not ms dos
[22:09] <phibonacci> it's a BIOS
[22:09] <phibonacci> I'm on a laptop EliteBook8560p
[22:10] <phibonacci>     sudo mount dev/sda5 /mnt
[22:10] <phibonacci>     sudo grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[22:10] <phibonacci> that was to repair it
[22:10] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Dod you have more than one hard drive?
[22:10] <phibonacci> no
[22:11] <malfrere> ikonia: OK thanks, I haven't used ubuntu in a long time and the lab I just came to uses it, so I've never dealt with a gpt partition table
[22:11] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Do you see any error message from grub before it brings you to the "rescue> " prompt?
[22:11] <rocks> Hello. I installed tor and vidalia. works fine and setup firefox and works fine too. now there's just one problem. my isp's broadband login page. (it uses a webpage to log in). it doesn't open at all. how do I whitelist the address in tor?
[22:11] <phibonacci> no
[22:12] <phibonacci> only some basic information about the minimal prompt
[22:12] <Jordan_U> rocks: Is this page different from your router's login page?
[22:12] <rocks> yes it's different
[22:12] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[22:13] <rocks> it's my isp's web portal page
[22:13] <rocks> it doesn't  use standard pppoe authentication
[22:13] <phibonacci> on my liceCD ?
[22:13] <phibonacci> live*
[22:13] <phibonacci> error: no loaded kernel.
[22:14] <phibonacci> on grub rescue
[22:14] <Jordan_U> rocks: And while the ip address of this page is a public internet routable address, they only allow logins from ip addresses from their ISP?
[22:14] <rocks> yes, i think so
[22:15] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Yes, run boot info script from a LiveCD/USB.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Is the prompt that you're seeing "grub> " or "rescue> "?
[22:15] <phibonacci> grub>
[22:15] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: That's not a grub rescue shell, that's just a grub shell.
[22:15] <phibonacci> oh, my bad
[22:16] <phibonacci> I had grub rescue when I erased my opensuse, before I installed the new grub on ubuntu
[22:16] <phibonacci> I got confused tho
[22:16] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: OK, with the output from boot info script we should be able to get you sorted out.
[22:17] <phibonacci> You are awesome.
[22:18] <phibonacci> 'boot info script' does not exist
[22:18] <bonafide> How do I pair a Wiimote as a raw HID device?
[22:19] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | phibonacci
[22:21] <rocks> when i damaged grub, the boot-repair software worked for me. I downloaded the package using a live CD, it hold the stuff in RAM and ran it
[22:23] <rocks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:23] <ItsYoda> Jordan_U: I appreciate your help. I've just re-installed ubuntu and everything is working perfectly. Thank you!
[22:23] <Jordan_U> ItsYoda: You're welcome.
[22:24] <phibonacci> there is the output : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rgqaxL8q
[22:24] <phibonacci> it ran awk instead of gawk
[22:25] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: You don't have any grub.cfg, hence why you're not getting a menu at boot.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: You can chroot in and run "update-grub", and everything should be good.
[22:26] <rocks> Jordan_U:  if you have any idea about the ISP login page not opening, please share. I will wait. thanks
[22:26] <phibonacci> how should I use chroot there ?
[22:27] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/; for dir in dev/ proc/ sys/ dev/pts/; do sudo mount --bind "/$dir" "/mnt/$dir"; done; chroot /mnt/
[22:27] <robi2> hola
[22:28] <Jordan_U> rocks: Please pastebin the output of "route -n".
[22:29] <rocks> http://pastebin.com/cxrrEete
[22:30] <phibonacci> failed to run command /bin/bash Exec format error
[22:30] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Is this a 32 bit LiveCD/USB?
[22:31] <phibonacci> it may be, I downloaded it with unetbootin and it did not ask me
[22:31] <phibonacci> (i did install a 64bits ubuntu from another support)
[22:31] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: You can't chroot into a 64 bit install from a 32 bit kernel.
[22:31] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Can you be on IRC and at the grub shell at the same time?
[22:31] <phibonacci> I have no choice but dl a 64bits one ? :(
[22:31] <phibonacci> yes
[22:31] <phibonacci> I'm just like that.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Please pastebin the output of "ls /mnt/boot/".
[22:34] <phibonacci> ls /mnt/boot > http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YV5Kxrub
[22:35] <adamcunnington> I'm not quite sure how this happened - possibly data retained after a reinstall but i appear to have 2 folders within home/
[22:35] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Reboot into the grub shell. Once at the grub shell, run "linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-18-generic root=/dev/sda5; initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-18-generic ; boot" . You can use tab completion at the grub shell to make entering the file names easier.
[22:35] <adamcunnington> Can I just delete the one or is that really risky?
[22:36] <phibonacci> I did that already but I did not have a boot folder then
[22:36] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: Well, it's hard to boot a kernel when you don't have a kernel to boot :). This time it should work.
[22:36] <phibonacci> good point
[22:38] <oligophrenia> .
[22:39] <phibonacci> youhou, you did it, I'm on a tty
[22:39] <phibonacci> I don't have any WM yet but that something I can manage
[22:39] <phibonacci> I should do a grub-update then ?
[22:41] <phibonacci> I don't seem to have a grub-update binary
[22:41] <phibonacci> oh
[22:41] <secleinteer> how do i access a command line from the minimal install cd?
[22:41] <rocks> Jordan_U: since Firefox is configured to use Tor SOCKS proxy, I need to tell it to somehow avoid the proxy for the ip addresses of the login page. isn't that it? but how
[22:42] <phibonacci> update-grub*, how convenient
[22:43] <phibonacci> everything is working well now
[22:44] <phibonacci> Thanks a lot Jordan_U !
[22:44] <Jordan_U> phibonacci: You're welcome :)
[22:44] <phibonacci> by the way, how is my English ? (I wonder)
[22:47] <rocks> awful :P
[22:47] <phibonacci> oh snap
[22:48] <rocks> kidding
[22:48] <Guest50390> sera
[22:50] <phibonacci> goodbye :)
[22:51] <Guest50390> hello
[22:58] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I am trying to remove duplicate entries from a file.  when I use sort file_name | uniq -u it isn't working correctly.  do you guys have any other, better suggestions?
[23:00] <sudormrf> the goal is not to create a new file
[23:01] <sudormrf> there is also some text at the top of the file that I want to skip.
[23:02] <sudormrf> maybe sed?
[23:03] <sudormrf> or perhaps awk
[23:04] <cloneG> hello where do I find this: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/07/30/configuring-the-appearance-of-the-compiz-cube/compiz_cube/ in compiz ubuntu 12.04?????????????????
[23:04] <cloneG> looking for skydome!!!!!
[23:05] <zacarias> Hi. In my Qjackctl connexions window, I see no "clients" in the audio tab. I can successfully connect my MIDI interface to the applications in the ALSA tab, but nothing appears in the audio tab. Any idea?
[23:05] <sudormrf> cloneG: http://www.howtoforge.com/install-compiz-on-the-unity-desktop-on-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin
[23:07] <sda> hi all, is there a remote desktop "server" that will act like RDP? Be able to login and logoff to the current session reconnect and lock the computer on local? not lose the session if connection fail? thanks
[23:10] <network> guys anyone knows a good VPN?
[23:13] <bekks> !openvpn | network
[23:15] <robi2> hola
[23:15] <kei_> yo
[23:15] <robi2> !list
[23:16] <cloneG> when rotating desktop sphere caps disappear compiz ubuntu 12..04 how do I fix it'
[23:16] <alin> hello
[23:16] <kei_> hey
[23:16] <cloneG> they dont when a windows is open on desktop
[23:17] <cloneG> like flickering
[23:18] <kei_> where can I find the atlantis plugin for compiz?
[23:20] <robi2> irc.openjoke.org.
[23:26] <mobilemeyhem> I'm trying to install drivers using ndiswrapper and I'm having trouble with the modprobe section. It says it can't find the ndiswrapper module
[23:26] <bonafide> How do I pair a Wiimote as a raw HID device?
[23:28] <wizonesolutions> Is btrfs still experimental?
[23:28] <mobilemeyhem> Weird_Trick ids spamming
[23:29] <bonafide> mobilemeyhem is right.
[23:30] <treyhunner> as of this morning, the touchpad on my laptop doesn't respond to feedback outside of about a 1 inch square and it barely responds within that square and often thinks I'm using two fingers on it
[23:31] <treyhunner> any advice on tools for troubleshooting what's going on?
[23:32] <mobilemeyhem> treyhunner: my experience says your touchpad has a short in one of the buttons
[23:32] <mobilemeyhem> But I could be wrong. I would try booting to hirens boot cd and testing the input
[23:34] <bekks> or just run xev.
[23:35] <treyhunner> Tried xev and I see no response when moving my finger over the edge of the trackpad.
[23:35] <treyhunner> boot CD is a good idea.  I'll give that a shot.
[23:39] <issphp> hey all
[23:39] <issphp> ubuntu just got fricked out at this moment
[23:39] <issphp> something like when explorer.exe crash on windows machine
[23:39] <issphp> how do i fix it
[23:40] <budeng> kjk
[23:41] <budeng> kk
[23:41] <budeng> mm;lkmkj
[23:41] <budeng> jiojjjjjjjjj
[23:43] <mobilemeyhem> Anybody know why a modprobe of a usb wireless card driver would error out saying it can't find the module?
[23:43] <issphp> who ever wrote to me i cant see
[23:43] <issphp> now i can
[23:43] <issphp> because the terminal block half of the screen
[23:43] <issphp> my ubuntu just got broke .. something like when explorer.exe crash on windows machine, how do i fix it ?
[23:44] <issphp> like unity crashed
[23:45] <avis> how do i enable compositing only in ubuntu lts 12.04 ?
[23:45] <secleinteer> hi, where exactly do i put the preseed.cfg file? i tried putting it in the root directory, but it wouldn't load
[23:45] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I am trying to only append unique entries to a file after a certain line number from the command line.  any ideas how I can accomplish shit?
[23:45] <sudormrf> sorry
[23:46] <sudormrf> this!
[23:46] <_2_Aangiiee> hola
[23:47] <issphp> does anyone know how to fix my problem ?? i have unsaved C code
[23:47] <Busybyeski> how can i make nautilus' alphabetical sort not case sensitive?
[23:49] <Beldar> Busybyeski, Not sure a good goal, linux is case sensitive in general.
[23:49] <b1g3m> Hello!
[23:52] <mobilemeyhem> Hello b1g3m xxx
[23:52] <mobilemeyhem> Lol
[23:52] <FourFire> Hello
[23:52] <b1g3m> Lol
[23:53] <b1g3m> How is everyone doing on this fine evening? :P
[23:53] <mobilemeyhem> Irc for android typo
[23:53] <b1g3m> which app do you use?
[23:53] <b1g3m> I couldn't find a good one.
[23:53] <mobilemeyhem> Oh I could be better if I could get this wireless adapter to work :/
[23:53] <FourFire> Is it possible to install a 64bit version of 12.04 on top of a 32bit version and keep all user files/accounts/installed programs?
[23:54] <mobilemeyhem> b1g3m: andchat
[23:54] <b1g3m> FourFire: It is if you have a backup!
[23:54] <b1g3m> mibilemeyhem: Whats going on with your wireless adapter?
[23:54] <FourFire> I could really do with switching to 64-Bit, but if it's too hard then I'll just wait
[23:55] <bonafide> How do I pair a Wiimote as a raw HID device?
[23:55] <Bolimeankel> hallo i need help
[23:55] <FourFire> b1g3m, the only backup media I have is a dying disk with >52 bad blocks
[23:55] <FourFire> also it has >1500 powerons
[23:55] <b1g3m> FourFire: O_o
[23:55] <Bolimeankel> can some body talke in german
[23:55] <mobilemeyhem> b1g3m: I've installed the drivers with ndiswrapper but when I run the modprobe to import the module, it fails and can't find the module
[23:56] <FourFire> Bolimeankel, Ich kanns nich spreche grosse deutch
[23:56] <b1g3m> mobilemeyhem: What computer are you using? Distro?
[23:56] <FourFire> Bolimeankel, looking for special letters?
[23:56] <Beldar> Bolimeankel, There is a german ubuntu channel.
[23:56] <FourFire> google them
[23:57] <CarlFK> Bolimeankel:  /j #ubuntu.de
[23:57] <FourFire> oh, right, sorry
[23:57] <FourFire> so b1g3m, are there alternatives?
[23:57] <b1g3m> FourFire: How much information do you need to backup?
[23:58] <b1g3m> FourFire: GB?
[23:58] <FourFire> uhh, let me check
[23:58] <FourFire> >40GB
[23:58] <mobilemeyhem> b1g3m: lubuntu and I'm using a usb wireless adapter. Wna3100
[23:58] <mobilemeyhem> Trying to find kernel version
[23:59] <FourFire> System monitor says I've used 143 GB of my current hard drive (66%)
[23:59] <mobilemeyhem> b1g3m: 3.11.0-18-generic
[23:59] <b1g3m> FourFire: Do you have an external drive you can drag and drop your info to? Don't use the system backup. It will have trouble backing up with bad sectors.
[23:59] <FourFire> it's a 250GB laptop drive identical to the dying one except it's newer
[23:59] <FourFire> the bad drive can be used as an external
[23:59] <b1g3m> mobilemeyhem: What computer?