[04:35] <Noskcaj> brainwash, If you're willing to make the FFe (including screenshot of the app working), i'll do the packaging
[08:11] <Noskcaj> brainwash, If you're willing to make the FFe (including screenshot of the app working), i'll do the packaging
[08:12] <elfy> Noskcaj: what's this? ACTION: Noskcaj to be in touch with elfy on xkb-plugin testing 
[08:12] <Noskcaj> elfy, I'm still waiting for sponsorship on that one
[08:12] <Unit193> elfy: Think leftovers that was taken care of 3 meetings ago?
[08:13] <Unit193> Ah.
[08:13] <elfy> Noskcaj: k - thanks
[08:13]  * elfy forgets he read that
[08:15] <Unit193> http://goo.gl/UPtH7i looks right to me.
[08:17] <elfy> not to me it doesn't
[08:18] <elfy> shouldn't the time be 7pm
[08:20] <Unit193> DST
[08:20] <Unit193> Everything gets messed up...
[08:21] <elfy> I tend to set times to UTC 
[08:21] <elfy> that's early for DST 
[09:14] <astraljava> Unit193: Thanks for the tip re: ssh, now I set ServerAliveCountMax and ServerAliveInterval so that under a minute, without a connection, they die and free up the corresponding tab.
[09:22] <ochosi> brainwash: tested the icon-bug in nm-applet yet?
[11:10] <slickymasterWork> knome, ping. You around?
[11:15] <knome> slickymasterWork, for a sec
[11:15] <slickymasterWork> knome: it's quick
[11:15] <knome> go ahead
[11:16] <slickymasterWork> the screenshots you need, do you want thunar to occupied the all desktop or do you want the desktop also visible?
[11:16] <knome> probably better that the desktop is also visible
[11:17] <slickymasterWork> besides thunar, do you want what application?
[11:17]  * knome shrugs
[11:17] <knome> i don't mind too much, it'll be up for a month or so
[11:18] <slickymasterWork> you said yesterday thunar and something else open, Do you mean simultaneously ?
[11:18] <knome> yeah, or something.
[11:18] <knome> use your imagination ;)
[11:18] <slickymasterWork> thanks
[11:18] <slickymasterWork> that's all, I'll mail them in a moment
[11:18] <knome> or look at http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/ and see what we've done before
[11:18] <knome> anything works
[11:18] <knome> but uäm running
[11:18] <knome> *i'm
[11:18] <knome> see you later
[11:19] <slickymasterWork> ttyl
[11:44] <elfy> morning 
[11:45] <elfy> what screenshots are we wanting?
[11:48] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy, good morning
[11:49] <slickymasterWork> see this -> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/06/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t19:14
[11:49] <slickymasterWork> I already mail them to knome 
[11:49] <elfy> oh 
[11:49] <elfy> saucy is long gone :p
[11:50] <slickymasterWork> yeah, I had to setup a box just for those
[11:52] <elfy> slickymasterWork reminds elfy of a job he needs to do
[11:53]  * slickymasterWork appreciates the reminder as he doesn't seems to remember what it is
[11:53] <slickymasterWork> :P
[11:53] <elfy> it doesn't involve chorizo nor chickpeas
[11:53] <slickymasterWork> hmmm.. sadly
[11:54] <slickymasterWork> but what is it?
[11:54]  * elfy wants to check that a default panel is readable with the supplied wallpapers
[11:54] <elfy> but can never remember what one actually looks like :p
[11:55] <Unit193> astraljava: Sure, glad it helps.
[11:56] <slickymasterWork> I'm not getting you elfy. Are you saying that you don't remember how a panel looks like?!
[11:56] <slickymasterWork> hey Unit193, morning
[11:56] <Unit193> Howdy.
[11:56] <slickymasterWork> or are you referring to the wallpapers?
[11:58] <elfy> nvm - I also forgot that a default panel isn't completely see through :p
[11:58] <slickymasterWork> not quite elfy, that's configurable
[11:58] <elfy> yes I know it is :)
[11:58] <elfy> mine is completely see through ... 
[11:59] <slickymasterWork> mine also :)
[12:00] <slickymasterWork> ohhhh, now I see, elfy. You were not talking about something that I needed to do, but rather about something you needed to do
[12:00] <slickymasterWork> silly slickymasterWork 
[12:02] <elfy> yea - sorry - head is elsewhere ... again
[12:45] <slickymasterWork> knome, as you must have probably forgotten, you still have these three MP hanging: 1) https://code.launchpad.net/~jjfrv8/xubuntu-docs/chapters-3-4-revisions/+merge/208951 2) https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/208035 and 3) https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/new-appendix/+merge/207310
[13:04] <brainwash> ochosi: yes, your commit fixed it, thanks
[13:22] <jjfrv8> afternoon, slickymasterWork 
[13:30] <AussieDownUnder> I must say, I'm impressed how if Windows crashes & I try to boot to xubuntu first, it won't mount the drives windows was using at the time until I re-boot to Windows for whatever reason it is that Windows fixes something before I can use those drives in xubuntu, I figured it's a safety feature to save hard drive corruption or data loss on those hard drives. Can anyone tell me the rifght info if I'm wrong?
[13:31] <jjfrv8> slickymasterWork, knome, I just pushed a new version of 1) ^^ that has a MenuLibre paragraph in it.
[13:32] <brainwash> AussieDownUnder: hey, this looks like a general ubuntu question, please try asking in #ubuntu
[13:32] <AussieDownUnder> Youre' clearly brainwashing me. I'm using xubuntu
[13:33] <jjfrv8> knome, if you approve the proposed Settings Manager entity changes, we can get busy updating the rest of the chapters.
[13:34] <brainwash> AussieDownUnder: both ubuntu and xubuntu use the same system components and serivces
[13:35] <brainwash> AussieDownUnder: did the behavior change in Xubuntu 14.04?
[13:35] <AussieDownUnder> brainwash, no idea, I went from Ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 14.04 beta.
[13:36] <AussieDownUnder> What's more confusing is how different ubuntu or any of its derivatives look if you install & log in with that desktop stuff that let's you choose what interface loads, then the different distro looks the same as a different distro.
[13:38] <brainwash> it's always ubuntu
[13:38] <brainwash> so you can install any desktop environment you like
[13:39] <brainwash> that is the reason why your initial question might be a general ubuntu one
[13:40] <AussieDownUnder> forget it
[13:52] <schproodle> 2 lightdm-greeter instances in taskbar after login on i386 daily
[13:53] <schproodle> What's up with that?
[13:54] <brainwash> ochosi: ^
[13:55] <brainwash> schproodle: do you use the daily lightdm-gtk-greeter PPA?
[13:55] <schproodle> qatracker iso test
[13:56]  * elfy boots daily
[13:56] <schproodle> so, no ppa
[13:56] <brainwash> did you file a report already?
[13:56] <schproodle> no
[13:56] <brainwash> ochosi also mentioned this issue yesterday
[13:57] <schproodle> yes, I thought I saw that yesterday gut something else went screwy with the vm
[13:57] <Unit193> I saw it too.
[13:57] <elfy> schproodle: install and login - or login to live session?
[13:58] <schproodle> install and login only on i386 -- not on amc64
[14:00] <schproodle> right click on entry in taskbar brings of a window --  not responding - selecting quit closes both instances
[14:01] <brainwash> run "ubuntu-bug lightdm-gtk-greeter"
[14:01] <brainwash> maybe we can get some debug hints from the logs
[14:02] <schproodle> just did "erase and install" -- did not happen this time
[14:04] <elfy> installing it in vm now
[14:05] <schproodle> brainwash, ubuntu-bug may not be useful without the problem or is it?
[14:06] <brainwash> you run it after the problem has occurred
[14:06] <schproodle> ok
[14:07] <brainwash> otherwise log files might have been overwritten/replaced in the meantime
[14:07] <elfy> so what am I actually looking for here - is it easy to see
[14:08] <schproodle> yes, two instance of lightdm-greeter in task bar but no window on desktop
[14:08] <schproodle> if it happens again, I will try a screenshot.
[14:14] <elfy> mmm looks same as ever to me
[14:15] <schproodle> elfy, that is, nothing in the taskbar, correct?
[14:15] <elfy> just indicators
[14:15] <elfy> what's expected
[14:15] <schproodle> I am installing another one for iso test now...
[14:22] <schproodle> done, no problem this time.
[14:24] <elfy> sigh ... thunar 
[14:30] <elfy> bah
[14:58] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy, as you're in testing mode can you verify something for me, please?
[14:58] <elfy> I'm always testing - but I've not got daily booted
[14:59] <slickymasterWork> ok, but I noticed that you've just setup a trusty box
[14:59] <elfy> I can boot it 
[14:59] <elfy> but I am about to afk for 30 minutes
[14:59] <slickymasterWork> so, what I want you to test is the 'Help' button from Settings Manager -> Desktop
[15:00] <slickymasterWork> it's just a matter of seconds ;)
[15:00] <elfy> does nothing
[15:00] <slickymasterWork> yeaps, just wanting to confirm it
[15:00] <slickymasterWork> I already have the bug ready
[15:01] <slickymasterWork> going to report it 
[15:01] <elfy> ok - can confirm
[15:21] <PaulW2U> elfy: 
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> elfy, brainwash, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1289411
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> going to file also upstream
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> ochosi: ^^^
[15:53] <slickymasterWork> Noskcaj, can you please raise the bug status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfdesktop/+bug/1289411 to 'Triaged'
[15:57] <elfy> slickymasterWork: confirmed
[15:57] <elfy> PaulW2U: hi
[15:58] <PaulW2U> hi elfy, reading channel on the bus, went over a bump, clicked on something in error and attracted your attention, sorry  :o)
[16:06] <slickymasterWork> thanks elfy 
[16:09] <elfy> buses ... 
[19:39] <Noskcaj> Is anyone else able to add a testimonial to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#Xubuntu_PackageSet ?
[19:39] <Noskcaj> micahg, ^
[21:04] <brainwash> Noskcaj: any idea what's wrong here? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/168642293/buildlog.txt.gz
[21:06] <Noskcaj> brainwash, Not really, can you paste you d/rules?
[21:07] <brainwash> I'm trying to build https://code.launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/ubuntu/trusty/gnome-system-tools/fix-1185396
[21:07] <brainwash> via (daily) build recipe
[21:09] <brainwash> or should I try via dput?
[21:20] <Noskcaj> brainwash, try dput, but i doubt that's the issue