| aquarius | might need a little tiny bit of poking in the qml to read out the folder that the qml file is installed in and pass it to the html | 00:00 |
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| aquarius | assuming that a qml file can know its own path, otherwise (horrors) it'll need a *C++* extension, which would be rubbish., | 00:00 |
| daker | hmm wired it's using the ubuntu app launcher but in the browser-app | 00:03 |
| daker | it works using* | 00:04 |
| aquarius | yeah, it won't work in browser because you're not loading from a file url then | 00:04 |
| aquarius | and you can't CORS file: URLs either | 00:04 |
| aquarius | chrome has the --let-me-load-file-urls-with-xhr switch (it's not called that, but it's called something like that) precisely for this reason :) | 00:04 |
| daker | but it's same engine :) | 00:05 |
| aquarius | yeah, it's a config switch | 00:05 |
| aquarius | but letting unprivileged web pages load file URLs with xhr would be a hole in the security policy the size of the Moon ;) | 00:05 |
| daker | maybe i should continue to look at the i18n stuff | 00:06 |
| aquarius | why would you be loading file URLs with the browser app anyway? | 00:06 |
| aquarius | if you've got files on the device, then you're a click package, at which point you can use the ubuntu-html5-app-launcher :) | 00:06 |
| daker | ya | 00:07 |
| daker | aquarius: i trying to implement an i18n mechanism | 00:07 |
| daker | using <link rel="prefetch" type="application/i18n" href="locales.json" /> | 00:07 |
| aquarius | daker, yeah, there are a few of those around. Are you doing it from scratch, or using some existing js port of gettext, or does it back-end onto the qsTr stuff that Qt alrady provides? | 00:08 |
| daker | scratch but really simple thing | 00:09 |
| daker | locales.json will have something like : | 00:09 |
| daker | { | 00:09 |
| daker | "fr":"locales/fr.json", | 00:09 |
| daker | "en":"locales/en.json" | 00:09 |
| daker | } | 00:09 |
| daker | then depending on the navigator.language select the correct one | 00:10 |
| aquarius | ah, man, you're inventing your own storage format for translated strings? | 00:10 |
| aquarius | dpm will cry a million million tears if you tell him that :) | 00:11 |
| aquarius | there are gettext ports already -- then people get the tools to create translations :) | 00:11 |
| daker | https://developers.google.com/chrome/web-store/docs/i18n#details | 00:11 |
| daker | https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/tree/master/locales | 00:12 |
| aquarius | I stand corrected | 00:12 |
| daker | com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/tree/master/shared/locales | 00:12 |
| daker | https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/tree/master/shared/locales | 00:13 |
| aquarius | however, that Google stuff describes how to localise your app's metadata, not your actual app, unless I'm missing something? | 00:13 |
| * aquarius looks at the boot2gecko stuff :) | 00:13 | |
| daker | https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/shared/js/l10n.js | 00:13 |
| aquarius | omg. I have to ship HTML that looks like <span data-l10n-id="lots-of-work">lots of work</span>? | 00:15 |
| aquarius | I suppose there isn't really a better way to do it | 00:15 |
| aquarius | but, ouch. | 00:15 |
| daker | https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/i18n | 00:15 |
| aquarius | I apologise for the accusation, though. This looks like the way everyone else is doing it too, yeah | 00:15 |
| daker | we were just brainstorming (me & Alex), so basically those were one of the method to do it | 00:16 |
| aquarius | I am a bit annoyed that whoever invented this invented a whole new thing which has *no* tooling rather than using gettext which has loads of tooling | 00:17 |
| aquarius | but, well, it's invented now. | 00:17 |
| daker | so i am just testing it, if you have a better idea we can discuss it :) | 00:17 |
| daker | i am not really sure how gettext will work | 00:18 |
| aquarius | This stuff totally does not document how to translate your HTML. Obviously the b2g stuff does it by looking for *[data-l10n-id] but nothing actually *says* that anywhere. | 00:19 |
| aquarius | If you're creating all your strings from JavaScript then you are already doing it wrong. :) | 00:19 |
| aquarius | need to work out a way to roundtrip the lang.json files into and out of rosetta :) | 00:20 |
| daker | aquarius: the b2g is only for b2g not for apps | 00:22 |
| aquarius | really? | 00:22 |
| aquarius | bah. | 00:22 |
| GabrieleG | it works really well now! :D | 00:23 |
| daker | aquarius: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build | 00:24 |
| daker | the localisation section has nothing on it | 00:24 |
| daker | so there is no official way to do i18n in FF OS | 00:25 |
| daker | aquarius: http://jsgettext.berlios.de/doc/html/po2json.html hhh :) | 00:27 |
| aquarius | ya | 00:27 |
| aquarius | not the same json format, though, although it's not far off :) | 00:27 |
| aquarius | I was just checking the appdev FAQ for ffos to see if it even mentions translations | 00:28 |
| aquarius | which it does not ;) | 00:28 |
| daker | here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build | 00:29 |
| daker | Location | 00:29 |
| daker | Advice for creating location-based applications. | 00:29 |
| daker | but nothing in it | 00:29 |
| aquarius | I imagine that'll be about geoloc rather than languages, though | 00:29 |
| aquarius | https://github.com/recurser/jquery-i18n is pretty common. jquery, of course, sigh, but the underlying idea and formats might be useful to look at | 00:30 |
| aquarius | (why, why, why is this a jquery plugin, why) | 00:31 |
| daker | the issue is how to do translation for the HTML | 00:34 |
| aquarius | yeah | 00:36 |
| aquarius | the b2g way seems about the most sensible way | 00:36 |
| aquarius | I hate the idea of putting data-l10n-id on everything | 00:36 |
| aquarius | but I hate all the alternatives more :) | 00:37 |
| aquarius | I'm not at all sure about having to think up unique ids for all your translateable strings, though | 00:37 |
| aquarius | gettext's way of using the string *as* its ID is better, I think. | 00:37 |
| aquarius | so you'd just do <span data-l10-translatable>Hello, world</span> | 00:38 |
| aquarius | and then "Hello, world" would be the ID | 00:38 |
| aquarius | I do not know how the b2g stuff handles nested elements, though. | 00:38 |
| aquarius | <p>Hello, <em>world</em></p> | 00:38 |
| aquarius | Where you really want to translate "Hello, world" as a string, not as two separate independent strings. | 00:39 |
| aquarius | I figured that someone somewhere would have already solved all these problems, like gettext has for desktop apps :) | 00:39 |
| vthompson | all, anyone around that wants to create a construct/prototype for the "bottom edge" implementation seen today? From the presentation, blog post, and what I've seen from Shuttleworth on G+, it seems like Canonical may be trying to source the implementation from the community. Maybe we can get a jump start on this for the SDK team? | 01:37 |
| kerjava | yes we see u | 01:40 |
| kerjava | your welcome | 01:41 |
| kerjava | you have a lot of instruments ^^ | 01:41 |
| sarnold | kerjava: are you sure you're in the right place? I see your half of the conversation but no one elses.. | 01:41 |
| kerjava | agreed ... | 01:42 |
| aquarius | kerjava, I think you're watching Jono's Q&A session? The video isn't live -- that was broadcast earlier today | 01:42 |
| kerjava | i see | 01:42 |
| kerjava | the timing was uncanny lol | 01:42 |
| kerjava | latter all ^^ | 01:43 |
| snapplejacks | the tabbed interface seems kind of clunky, is there a trick i'm missing or does it always require multiple gestures? | 02:32 |
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| Guest43300 | Hello, I have a problem when compiling my program. I am trying to (#include <array>), but I reciecve this error: | 07:09 |
| Guest43300 | #error This file requires compiler and library support for the ISO C++ 2011 standard. This support is currently experimental, and must be enabled with the -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11 compiler options. #error This file requires compiler and library support for the \ ^ | 07:09 |
| sarnold | make sense so far.. | 07:11 |
| DanChapman | good morning | 07:13 |
| sergico | hi | 12:08 |
| sergico | looking for help on running qt apps on ubuntu touch phone | 12:09 |
| funky1 | hi there, i'm trying to compile a package but having some trouble telling in configure option the right path to a library, can someone have a look and help me out? http://pastebin.com/niVaPY0D | 12:51 |
| PaoloRotolo | nik90, ping | 18:06 |
| nik90 | PaoloRotolo: pong | 18:40 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Hi All! | 19:37 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Trying to get a version of Linux on my Nexus 7 2013 flo Tablet | 19:38 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Ubuntu touch is ok.. but I'm trying to find something more functional | 19:39 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | seems there are solutions for the earlier nexus 7 model but none seem to be working on mine | 19:39 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Any thoughts or suggestions would be glady appreciated! | 19:40 |
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| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Found something... http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=502 | 19:56 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Kali linux on Nexus 7 2013 | 19:56 |
| FulLinuxonNexus7 | Incase anyone actually reads the chatrooms | 19:57 |
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