[14:13] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> Hi!
[14:15] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> I have C2D laptop (2GHz) with 3 gigs of ram and a 30 gigs of free partition for Ubuntu Studio, I want to use it to record music and edit it, I'm a drummer, wich version should I download 13.10 or 12.04 or should I wait to 14 version?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, personally: LTS only.  Now, interim versions only get 9 months support.  I'd suggest 12.04 now and upgrade to 14.04 next month.
[14:19] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> ok
[14:19] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> thx!
[14:22] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> cfhowlett, last question, why not to install 13.10 is there any difference? Is 12.04 better and does it have low lattency kernel also?
[14:22] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> is possible to upgrade 13.10 to 14 version?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, 12.04 does have low latency kernel.  you can go 13.10 to 14.04
[14:23] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> 13.10 is less stable ?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, no, but it IS only supported for 9 months so ... that kind of stuff matters to me.  LTS = Long Term Support so at least 3 years support
[14:24] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> cfhowlett, i'm asking cause I want to know wich is better for me I want to know your logic cause it could direct me in the right direction
[14:25] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> yes but if I upgrade from 13.10 to 14 then I got LTS support ?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, my production needs don't require the latest/greatest shiny packages, so LTS works for me
[14:25] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> I mean just upgrading packages
[14:25] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> I see, ok
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !lts
[14:26] <Unit193> Whereas for me, it tends to annoy me and cause problems for me when I have outdated applications.  Upgrading every 6 months isn't fun though. :P
[14:26] <cfhowlett> 13.10 isn't lts but 14.04 will be.  so long as you only go with LTS releases, you're covered.  My last installation was April 2012, next will be April 2014 then 2016 ...
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Unit193, agreed.  as I said, depends on your needs and use profile
[14:27] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> Unit193, yes tell me more
[14:27] <Unit193> cfhowlett: Exactly does. :)
[14:27] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> is it true that in the newer kernel I have better suport of devices (music cards etc.)?
[14:28] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> Unit193, so this upgrade process from 13.10 to 14 could be effortless or I have to install from scrach?
[14:28] <Unit193> You don't have to install from scratch if you don't want.
[14:28] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, direct upgrade - USUALLY painless
[14:29] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> ok, cause I've had some time ago ubuntu and it was painfull, is newer ubuntu more stable if I upgrade?
[14:30] <Unit193> It's gotten better, but it's all preference (like what version you run) whether you upgrade or reinstall, or reinstall with a seperate /home/ partition.
[14:30] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> I currently have Debian oldstable I love it but I can't install music applications cause its old
[14:30] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, not sure what we're comparing here ...
[14:31] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> yes me too, I want to compare 13.10 to 14 but not including Debian cause its faster and more stable but I get it...
[14:31] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st ubuntustudio is built on xubuntu which is itself pretty decent on older hardware.  you might need to go wtih 32 bit ...
[14:31] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> cfhowlett, why 32 bit?
[14:32] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> my processor can handle 64 bit
[14:32] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, ah.  nvrmnd
[14:32] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> ok now I understand you
[14:33] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> anyways thanks for answers!
[14:33] <Unit193> Stable would equate more to LTS.
[14:33] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> the truth will come with installing it
[14:33] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> yes LTS
[14:33] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, an adventure you will have ...
[14:33] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> but I can have it after I upgrade from 13.10 to 14 yes?
[14:34] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> or I'm wrong?
[14:34] <Unit193> Sure, you can change upgrade paths.
[14:34] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> hmm...
[14:35] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> Unit193, no I mean if its possible to just click when upgrade will be avaible and upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 ?
[14:35] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> so after some time I have LTS support?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, yes
[14:35] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> there you have it!
[14:36] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, its not an issue of TIME.  14.04 will be LTS.
[14:36] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> ok
[14:37] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> so I will install 13.10 and then after some time I'll install 14.04 and even with my home on one partition I will able to save my projects?
[14:37] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> be able to save*
[14:37] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, if you have a separate /home - but, of course, back up.
[14:39] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> hmm. ok I'll install it and then I'll come back cause this is becomming speculation from my side, so thank you for answering my questions!
[14:40] <cfhowlett> I_want_Ubutnu_st, best of luck!
[14:40] <I_want_Ubutnu_st> Thx bye!
[16:39] <Munger> Hi. Does anyone know of a software equivalent to this - http://www.lonewolfblues.com/shield.html . My pedal board drowned in a flood
[16:40] <holstein> Munger: whats it do?
[16:40] <Munger> It protects against feedback through a mic
[16:41] <holstein> i would just use an EQ and turn it down
[16:41] <Munger> Tried that but it doesn't do the job for me.
[16:42] <holstein> Munger: it should
[16:42] <holstein> Munger: turn it down more
[16:42] <holstein> Munger: at some point, you will find the level low enough not to feedback
[16:43] <holstein> you can also watch your physical location to the mic, or use a more directional mic
[16:43] <holstein> for me, the overhead of what linux would offer here wouldnt be worth it
[16:44] <Munger> I know, but that kills the tone. I'm a harmonica player and the Lone Wolf shield does the trick, but I can't afford to replace it just yet
[16:44] <holstein> i would want an appliance. otherwise, you will need a machine.. a nice interface that will do low latency, and JACK running.. etc
[16:44] <Munger> I already have jack running on this machine. just wanted something to plug in
[16:45] <holstein> Munger: replacing it would be cheaper than addressing the hardware needs for *any* software on a machine to deal with this.. assuming software will do what you want
[16:45] <holstein> Munger: the "something to plug in" will be $$
[16:45] <Munger> Huh? I'm already running Ubuntu Studio on a quad core machine. I have all the hardware I need
[16:46] <holstein> Munger: ok
[16:46] <holstein> Munger: whats the interface? and your latency?
[16:46] <holstein> Munger: are you doing realtime effects procesing of microphones already on the machine?
[16:46] <holstein> Munger: are you willing to haul the machine *everwhere* you want to play the mouthharp?
[16:47] <holstein> if you are just doing this in the studio, just turn the thing down, and do it all in post production
[16:47] <holstein> just record the thing with the mic, and apply what you want after recording it
[16:47] <Munger> It's a m-audio fasttrack, but I have an Echo Layla 3G on order - hence I have no cash until next month for a new harp shield
[16:47] <holstein> you dont need it to record in the studio
[16:47] <Munger> Trust me. I *do* need it
[16:48] <holstein> the harp shield is more about cranking it on stage, and blocking feedback
[16:48] <holstein> in the studio, you really dont, friend
[16:48] <Munger> I never said I was in a stgudio
[16:48] <holstein> you can address this with a compromise of just recording the acoustic sound of the instrumen,a nd processsing aftwerwards
[16:49] <holstein> Munger: are you on stage with a band then?
[16:49] <holstein> Munger: you are willing to haul all of that gear on stage with a band?
[16:49] <holstein> the computer.. the monitor.. the fast track.. etc
[16:50] <Munger> Yes. And the gear is really very tiny. Quad core machine is 29mm*109mm*115mm and bolts onto the vesa mount on a touchscreen monitor
[16:51] <holstein> ok.. then, look for and try plugins
[16:51] <holstein> you can ask in #opensourcemusicians
[16:51] <holstein> any will be available in JACK
[16:53] <Munger> Everything else is working beautifully - just the infernal feedback. This rig is actually a fraction of the weight of my pedal board
[16:55] <holstein> but, its a computer
[16:55] <holstein> not appliances
[16:55] <holstein> the pedal board is made to do what you are doing with it
[16:55] <holstein> the computer is made to sit at a desk
[16:56] <holstein> anyways.. to answer your question.. there are many plugs for linux
[16:56] <holstein> try #opensourcemusicians and see what folks suggest
[16:57] <Munger> It's actually on a tripod and rakarack is surpirsingly good with a touch screen and the effects work equally well for a harp as for a guitar
[16:58] <Munger> In time I will revert to the pedal board, but I lost nearly £2000 worth of pedals in the flood
[16:59] <holstein> enjoy it!.. ask in the channel i provided for answers about appropriate software
[16:59] <Munger> OK, cheers
[16:59] <holstein> those will be EQ's and limiters
[17:00] <holstein> and suggestions about just turning down, and physically moving away from the speaker.. the monitor on stage
[17:03] <holstein> im not clear on why you cant move away from the monitor and  turn it down?
[21:07] <staxxx> hello everyone! I just reinstalled ubuntustudio but now I cant connect jack. I get a message: Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be started 21:07:08.308 ALSA connection graph change. any help?