=== IdleOne- is now known as IdleOne [14:13] Hi! [14:15] I have C2D laptop (2GHz) with 3 gigs of ram and a 30 gigs of free partition for Ubuntu Studio, I want to use it to record music and edit it, I'm a drummer, wich version should I download 13.10 or 12.04 or should I wait to 14 version? [14:18] I_want_Ubutnu_st, personally: LTS only. Now, interim versions only get 9 months support. I'd suggest 12.04 now and upgrade to 14.04 next month. [14:19] ok [14:19] thx! [14:22] cfhowlett, last question, why not to install 13.10 is there any difference? Is 12.04 better and does it have low lattency kernel also? [14:22] is possible to upgrade 13.10 to 14 version? [14:22] I_want_Ubutnu_st, 12.04 does have low latency kernel. you can go 13.10 to 14.04 [14:23] 13.10 is less stable ? [14:24] I_want_Ubutnu_st, no, but it IS only supported for 9 months so ... that kind of stuff matters to me. LTS = Long Term Support so at least 3 years support [14:24] cfhowlett, i'm asking cause I want to know wich is better for me I want to know your logic cause it could direct me in the right direction [14:25] yes but if I upgrade from 13.10 to 14 then I got LTS support ? [14:25] I_want_Ubutnu_st, my production needs don't require the latest/greatest shiny packages, so LTS works for me [14:25] I mean just upgrading packages [14:25] I see, ok [14:25] !lts [14:25] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) [14:26] Whereas for me, it tends to annoy me and cause problems for me when I have outdated applications. Upgrading every 6 months isn't fun though. :P [14:26] 13.10 isn't lts but 14.04 will be. so long as you only go with LTS releases, you're covered. My last installation was April 2012, next will be April 2014 then 2016 ... [14:27] Unit193, agreed. as I said, depends on your needs and use profile [14:27] Unit193, yes tell me more [14:27] cfhowlett: Exactly does. :) [14:27] is it true that in the newer kernel I have better suport of devices (music cards etc.)? [14:28] Unit193, so this upgrade process from 13.10 to 14 could be effortless or I have to install from scrach? [14:28] You don't have to install from scratch if you don't want. [14:28] I_want_Ubutnu_st, direct upgrade - USUALLY painless [14:29] ok, cause I've had some time ago ubuntu and it was painfull, is newer ubuntu more stable if I upgrade? [14:30] It's gotten better, but it's all preference (like what version you run) whether you upgrade or reinstall, or reinstall with a seperate /home/ partition. [14:30] I currently have Debian oldstable I love it but I can't install music applications cause its old [14:30] I_want_Ubutnu_st, not sure what we're comparing here ... [14:31] yes me too, I want to compare 13.10 to 14 but not including Debian cause its faster and more stable but I get it... [14:31] I_want_Ubutnu_st ubuntustudio is built on xubuntu which is itself pretty decent on older hardware. you might need to go wtih 32 bit ... [14:31] cfhowlett, why 32 bit? [14:32] my processor can handle 64 bit [14:32] I_want_Ubutnu_st, ah. nvrmnd [14:32] ok now I understand you [14:33] anyways thanks for answers! [14:33] Stable would equate more to LTS. [14:33] the truth will come with installing it [14:33] yes LTS [14:33] I_want_Ubutnu_st, an adventure you will have ... [14:33] but I can have it after I upgrade from 13.10 to 14 yes? [14:34] or I'm wrong? [14:34] Sure, you can change upgrade paths. [14:34] hmm... [14:35] Unit193, no I mean if its possible to just click when upgrade will be avaible and upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 ? [14:35] so after some time I have LTS support? [14:35] I_want_Ubutnu_st, yes [14:35] there you have it! [14:36] I_want_Ubutnu_st, its not an issue of TIME. 14.04 will be LTS. [14:36] ok [14:37] so I will install 13.10 and then after some time I'll install 14.04 and even with my home on one partition I will able to save my projects? [14:37] be able to save* [14:37] I_want_Ubutnu_st, if you have a separate /home - but, of course, back up. [14:39] hmm. ok I'll install it and then I'll come back cause this is becomming speculation from my side, so thank you for answering my questions! [14:40] I_want_Ubutnu_st, best of luck! [14:40] Thx bye! === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy [16:39] Hi. Does anyone know of a software equivalent to this - http://www.lonewolfblues.com/shield.html . My pedal board drowned in a flood [16:40] Munger: whats it do? [16:40] It protects against feedback through a mic [16:41] i would just use an EQ and turn it down [16:41] Tried that but it doesn't do the job for me. [16:42] Munger: it should [16:42] Munger: turn it down more [16:42] Munger: at some point, you will find the level low enough not to feedback [16:43] you can also watch your physical location to the mic, or use a more directional mic [16:43] for me, the overhead of what linux would offer here wouldnt be worth it [16:44] I know, but that kills the tone. I'm a harmonica player and the Lone Wolf shield does the trick, but I can't afford to replace it just yet [16:44] i would want an appliance. otherwise, you will need a machine.. a nice interface that will do low latency, and JACK running.. etc [16:44] I already have jack running on this machine. just wanted something to plug in [16:45] Munger: replacing it would be cheaper than addressing the hardware needs for *any* software on a machine to deal with this.. assuming software will do what you want [16:45] Munger: the "something to plug in" will be $$ [16:45] Huh? I'm already running Ubuntu Studio on a quad core machine. I have all the hardware I need [16:46] Munger: ok [16:46] Munger: whats the interface? and your latency? [16:46] Munger: are you doing realtime effects procesing of microphones already on the machine? [16:46] Munger: are you willing to haul the machine *everwhere* you want to play the mouthharp? [16:47] if you are just doing this in the studio, just turn the thing down, and do it all in post production [16:47] just record the thing with the mic, and apply what you want after recording it [16:47] It's a m-audio fasttrack, but I have an Echo Layla 3G on order - hence I have no cash until next month for a new harp shield [16:47] you dont need it to record in the studio [16:47] Trust me. I *do* need it [16:48] the harp shield is more about cranking it on stage, and blocking feedback [16:48] in the studio, you really dont, friend [16:48] I never said I was in a stgudio [16:48] you can address this with a compromise of just recording the acoustic sound of the instrumen,a nd processsing aftwerwards [16:49] Munger: are you on stage with a band then? [16:49] Munger: you are willing to haul all of that gear on stage with a band? [16:49] the computer.. the monitor.. the fast track.. etc [16:50] Yes. And the gear is really very tiny. Quad core machine is 29mm*109mm*115mm and bolts onto the vesa mount on a touchscreen monitor [16:51] ok.. then, look for and try plugins [16:51] you can ask in #opensourcemusicians [16:51] any will be available in JACK [16:53] Everything else is working beautifully - just the infernal feedback. This rig is actually a fraction of the weight of my pedal board [16:55] but, its a computer [16:55] not appliances [16:55] the pedal board is made to do what you are doing with it [16:55] the computer is made to sit at a desk [16:56] anyways.. to answer your question.. there are many plugs for linux [16:56] try #opensourcemusicians and see what folks suggest [16:57] It's actually on a tripod and rakarack is surpirsingly good with a touch screen and the effects work equally well for a harp as for a guitar [16:58] In time I will revert to the pedal board, but I lost nearly £2000 worth of pedals in the flood [16:59] enjoy it!.. ask in the channel i provided for answers about appropriate software [16:59] OK, cheers [16:59] those will be EQ's and limiters [17:00] and suggestions about just turning down, and physically moving away from the speaker.. the monitor on stage [17:03] im not clear on why you cant move away from the monitor and turn it down? [21:07] hello everyone! I just reinstalled ubuntustudio but now I cant connect jack. I get a message: Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be started 21:07:08.308 ALSA connection graph change. any help?