| jakesyl | Hey guys, I have a question about xubuntu, so when i set it up from a usb how do i make it install to my hdd instead of flash drive | 00:26 |
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| jakesyl | hello? | 00:29 |
| fibz_ | during the install it will ask where and how you want to setup ubuntu | 01:18 |
| GridCube | jakesyl, as fibz_ said, when installing, choose to select where to install yourself, there you can choose whatever disk or partition you want | 01:22 |
| jakesyl | okay, i'll try this once i finish downloading ubuntu | 01:29 |
| jakesyl | 'i was using xubuntu before | 01:29 |
| fibz_ | for future refrence, you dont have to download a whole new ISO, you can convert your *buntu into any version of *buntu from software center or from terminal | 01:31 |
| fibz_ | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 01:31 |
| basketball | how do i play a blueray dvd | 02:58 |
| PhoenixSTF | hello guys, does xubuntu have a kyosk mode or user lockdown, trying to setup one in a LTSP environment. | 03:05 |
| holstein | PhoenixSTF: i read that it did.. i personally havent found a workable environment for that since gnome2 | 03:20 |
| holstein | PhoenixSTF: im sure its something im just not doing properly.. | 03:20 |
| PhoenixSTF | holstein, I heard about pessulus but I do not knwo if it will work on xfce | 03:22 |
| fibz_ | cant you just create a limited account, remove the panels, remove keyboard shortcuts and use a whitelist for URLs? | 03:23 |
| PhoenixSTF | urls are not the issue | 03:25 |
| fibz_ | what are we trying to lock down? | 03:25 |
| PhoenixSTF | the issue is several groups and not all can open alll the programs | 03:25 |
| PhoenixSTF | ie, software center, programming IDE, math programs, etc | 03:26 |
| PhoenixSTF | so you can have students | 03:26 |
| PhoenixSTF | and teachers | 03:26 |
| PhoenixSTF | and investigators | 03:26 |
| PhoenixSTF | and just normal working personnel | 03:26 |
| holstein | i ended up trying readonly file systems | 03:28 |
| fibz_ | something like this? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/36845/the-beginners-guide-to-managing-users-and-groups-in-linux/ | 03:28 |
| holstein | its not like pessulus was though | 03:30 |
| PhoenixSTF | well it is something | 03:30 |
| holstein | i mean, you can do it.. its alll open | 03:30 |
| cfhowlett | kiosk mode? | 03:31 |
| PhoenixSTF | pessulus was only for gnome, and sure you can do it, or even fabricate a program to fill your needs | 03:31 |
| PhoenixSTF | I wonder if greek schools have something | 03:31 |
| fibz_ | i say bundle app permissions to individual groups and create a custom menu file for each user type (student, teacher, investigator) | 03:32 |
| PhoenixSTF | greek schools have nanny | 03:32 |
| PhoenixSTF | anyway it is for a LTSP setup, I will figure something out | 03:35 |
| PhoenixSTF | thanks guys | 03:35 |
| FuuqUmiist | what is the min requirements for Xubuntu, a P4? | 06:13 |
| fibz_ | a Pentium Pro with at least 256RAM (the more RAM, the better) | 06:15 |
| fibz_ | you can get away with less RAM but i wouldnt recommend it | 06:16 |
| FuuqUmiist | can you use it for daily usage with that low of a cpu? | 06:17 |
| FuuqUmiist | or is it just installing for the sake of installing it | 06:18 |
| fibz_ | sure if it's daily use is something simple | 06:19 |
| fibz_ | but a P4 would of coarse be preferable | 06:20 |
| fibz_ | over a P1 | 06:20 |
| FuuqUmiist | is it true that Firefox need a min P4 now-a-days? | 06:20 |
| fibz_ | i have it running on a P3 and a Duron right now | 06:21 |
| fibz_ | 900mhz | 06:21 |
| FuuqUmiist | oh | 06:21 |
| Unit193 | I'd not go less than 1G of ram, personally. | 06:21 |
| fibz_ | ^ | 06:21 |
| fibz_ | duron is running fine with 640MB, but flash and javascript bog it down pretty good | 06:23 |
| FuuqUmiist | it says P4 for windows | 06:28 |
| FuuqUmiist | http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/27.0.1/system-requirements/ | 06:28 |
| FuuqUmiist | but nothing for linux, why is that? | 06:28 |
| Unit193 | I'd not do FF on 256, I'd use a smaller browser (personally like xombrero.) | 06:30 |
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| lokote_jones | Does anyone have first hand knowledge of whether or not Xubuntu will work well with an AMD A10 APU in crossfire mode? | 13:19 |
| GridCube | lokote_jones, thats a rather specific question and i very much doubt anyone would | 13:21 |
| GridCube | lokote_jones, I would try to test a live session on it | 13:21 |
| lokote_jones | GridCube: Sorry. I was just planning on upgrading to a new PC and have my eyes on the AMD APU as a potential kit; but no access to the hardware locally. Thank you though. I might try a web forum or reddit. I'm just worried about the driver compatability since it isn't "Nividdya" | 13:22 |
| GridCube | lokote_jones, maybe this will guide you to some relevant information http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYxNjM | 13:23 |
| lokote_jones | GridCube: Thank you. | 13:23 |
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| saurabhGupta | how should i check and install wifi driver? | 16:09 |
| holstein | saurabhGupta: depends on many things | 16:10 |
| holstein | !wifi | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 16:10 |
| Unit193 | Using the Additional Drivers tool in the Settings Manager if you have a LAN connection, or checking the chipset and looking up (or saying here) what you have. | 16:10 |
| Unit193 | lspci, that is, to look up the device. | 16:11 |
| saurabhGupta | Unit193, I have LAN connection. Running lspci gave me Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) wifi card. | 16:13 |
| saurabhGupta | Unit193, Additional Drivers not showing anything. | 16:14 |
| Unit193 | Really? That makes me sad now. | 16:14 |
| Unit193 | !bcm | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 16:14 |
| holstein | there is a lp-phy one | 16:15 |
| holstein | !info firmware-b43-lpphy-installer | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Package firmware-b43-lpphy-installer does not exist in saucy | 16:16 |
| holstein | well, thats what i think it was called, at least.. you can search a package manager for "lp-phy" and see what is available | 16:16 |
| orp | hi | 17:20 |
| orp | any one can help me with my 3D acceleration ? please | 17:20 |
| holstein | orp: it'll be driver related likely.. are you using any proprietary optional drivers if available? if not, try them | 17:21 |
| orp | yes | 17:22 |
| holstein | orp: did you try the open driver as well? | 17:22 |
| orp | yes | 17:22 |
| orp | it don't work | 17:22 |
| holstein | i would confirm you are loading the module you think you are and elaborate about how you are determining its "not working" | 17:23 |
| orp | this one is working | 17:23 |
| holstein | orp: ? | 17:23 |
| holstein | orp: so, whats the issue? | 17:23 |
| orp | but the resulotion don't have all options | 17:23 |
| orp | GeForce 8200M G/integrated/SSE2 | 17:23 |
| holstein | orp: it may not.. i use a custom xorg.conf on an nvidia card i have | 17:23 |
| orp | ok | 17:24 |
| holstein | you can also try arandr | 17:24 |
| orp | no | 17:24 |
| orp | but the one on xfce should work ? | 17:25 |
| holstein | orp: you should try arandr, and consider a custom xorg.conf | 17:25 |
| orp | ok | 17:26 |
| orp | how can i get info to do that ? | 17:26 |
| holstein | i used knoppix live, configured, and grabbed the xorg.conf from there | 17:27 |
| holstein | !xorg | 17:27 |
| ubottu | The X Window system is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart X, type 'sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm' on an ubuntu system. replace with kdm on Kubuntu. To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . Also see !xorgconf | 17:27 |
| holstein | !xorgconf | 17:27 |
| ubottu | The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax. | 17:27 |
| xubuntu775 | good day. I have an AMD 64 3800+ PC. this is a CPU that was releaced in 2006. Should i run the 64bit or 32bit XUBUNTU 12.0.4 LTS os? A while back, 32bit was always recomended as more compatable. is that still true? | 17:28 |
| orp | ok | 17:29 |
| orp | my laptop is this one | 17:31 |
| orp | http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR700.html#?div=Specification | 17:31 |
| orp | is really a pain to config | 17:31 |
| orp | i start with nomodset | 17:32 |
| holstein | orp: it can be challenging, for sure | 17:36 |
| orp | yes | 17:36 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: how much ram? | 17:36 |
| orp | I wil do it | 17:36 |
| orp | 4Gb | 17:36 |
| orp | I am runing 64bit | 17:36 |
| orp | and the driver is nvidia-319 | 17:37 |
| holstein | orp: ideally, nvidia would be helping you with this... since its their driver | 17:38 |
| xubuntu775 | i have 2gb ram | 17:38 |
| holstein | orp: you can try adding the ppa that steam suggesti | 17:38 |
| holstein | !steam | 17:38 |
| ubottu | Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. | 17:38 |
| xubuntu775 | old PC i am giving to father. | 17:38 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: i would do 32bit with 2 gigs of ram | 17:38 |
| xubuntu775 | ok, thats what i installed. | 17:38 |
| xubuntu775 | do you know if now that 64bit CPUs have been out for several years, is the software for 64bit still buggy mor so than the 32bit software? | 17:41 |
| orp | yes | 17:43 |
| orp | i just trying | 17:43 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: no.. its not more buggy | 17:43 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: its a matter of the ram that i make the decision | 17:43 |
| orp | but there are many software just to 64bit | 17:43 |
| xubuntu775 | im just asking because at some point down the road, i may upgrade the PC to 4GB ram so maybe installing 54bit now is better so i don't ahve to rebuild PC later. | 17:43 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: its a non-issue | 17:43 |
| xubuntu775 | i am aware of the 4GB ram limit on 32bit os. | 17:44 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: do which ever you like | 17:44 |
| xubuntu775 | ok, thanks | 17:44 |
| bekks | If your CPU is 64bit, install 64bit. | 17:44 |
| holstein | xubuntu775: there is a pae kernel to address the 4gb limit | 17:44 |
| bekks | And using PAE, there is no 4GB RAM limit. | 17:44 |
| holstein | you can run 32bit software in 64bit | 17:44 |
| holstein | 64bit is stable, and works great | 17:44 |
| xubuntu775 | oh. i wasn't aware of that one. | 17:44 |
| holstein | if i had 32bit installed, depending on what i was doing, i may not bother reinstalling 64bit if i wanted it | 17:45 |
| xubuntu775 | that is, i didn't know of the PAE. | 17:45 |
| holstein | !pae | 17:46 |
| ubottu | To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info | 17:46 |
| xubuntu775 | i just did the install on 32bit yesterday and it seems to be working fine for a CPU from 2006. | 17:46 |
| xubuntu775 | not the fastest but stable | 17:46 |
| holstein | sure.. both work fine.. neither make the hardware faster | 17:46 |
| xubuntu775 | yeah, not thinking the hardware would work faster -- just wondering if i am limiting some resources from the CPU that could be used later but more than likely not. The PC will be used mostly for Pogo.com :-) | 17:48 |
| melt7777 | i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization, and once i chroot to the "new build" and run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, or try apt-get purge whoopsie, whoopsie breaks down the whole build, and i can't do anything further.... cant find /etc/init.d/whoopsie | 17:50 |
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| xubuntu141 | Doing my first Xubuntu install. Any suggestions on what to do upon first boot? Is running "sudo apt-get update" from terminal a good start? | 18:10 |
| basketballl | when i go to the display settings i want to change the resolution to 1280 x 800 (16:10) when i select that resolution the rotation options change from 180 degress counterclockwise and clockwise and normal to just clockwise and counterclockwise | 18:12 |
| xubuntu141 | basketball, I'm assuming that you're unable to just select the standard rotation? | 18:13 |
| xubuntu775 | @xubuntu141 - I also just did my first install. If you have internet access it should check for updates right away. I had 167 updates on 12.0.4 LTS. | 18:14 |
| xubuntu141 | thanks 775 | 18:15 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu775: First boot? After install or what are we talking about? | 18:15 |
| xubuntu141 | did you use sudo apt-get update? | 18:16 |
| xubuntu775 | nope. It just didt it automaticly. There was an update icon by the clock. | 18:16 |
| xubuntu141 | Yes, first boot after clean install. | 18:16 |
| xubuntu141 | Awesome. | 18:17 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu141: Yeah, I'd do so, after that apt-get dist-upgrade too. | 18:17 |
| xubuntu141 | Hope mine does too!1 lol | 18:17 |
| xubuntu775 | if you want to force it, click the gear in the upper right corner and there is an option to update. | 18:17 |
| xubuntu141 | Thanks Unit193! | 18:17 |
| Unit193 | (There are several ways to do it, xubuntu775 just has another optional way, just using the GUI rather than CLI.) | 18:18 |
| GridCube | kids remember to always install the restricted extras P: | 18:18 |
| basketballl | xubuntu141, that doesnt show up | 18:18 |
| xubuntu775 | yeah. I am a gui guy. I installed 13.10 on my mail PC to get used to cli way of doing things. | 18:19 |
| Unit193 | Yes, that too, what GridCube said. And check drivers. | 18:19 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu775: And clearly I'm a CLI person that forgets about the GUI, always good to have someone to remind me, or help others with it. :) | 18:20 |
| xubuntu775 | that totally came out wrong... I installed 13.10 on my MAIN pc is what i meant to say!! anyway thanks for the tip on the restricted extras. i totaly forgot to do this and was about to hand of the pc. | 18:25 |
| Unit193 | If $whoever does DVDs, don't forget libdvdcss. | 18:26 |
| xubuntu775 | ok question about the restricted extras, now that i have it accepted (EULA) and installed, how is it updated? is this automatic or do i need to check from time to time? | 18:30 |
| GridCube | its automatic | 18:30 |
| GridCube | all the updates end up in the update manager | 18:30 |
| xubuntu775 | ok cool | 18:30 |
| GridCube | you have to accept and apply any update, but as long as you use the USC to install things, you will recieve the updates there | 18:31 |
| GridCube | if you download and install something outside of the USC then ofcourse you wont recieve any update | 18:31 |
| xubuntu775 | hmmm... on my xunbutu box i ran "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" was there another way to install this? | 18:33 |
| Unit193 | You could use USC. | 18:33 |
| GridCube | xubuntu775, that is basically the same as using the USC xubuntu775 just not graphically | 18:34 |
| xubuntu775 | ok, now that i already ran this, how do i correct this so that my father can do the installs on his own? | 18:34 |
| xubuntu775 | ok, so still get the update notice than? | 18:34 |
| xubuntu775 | then? | 18:35 |
| GridCube | xubuntu775, if there is an update there will be an icon next to the clock that says "there are updates for x amount of programs" and he can click apply | 18:35 |
| GridCube | it wont ask for password | 18:36 |
| GridCube | it will ask for password to apply kernel updates tho | 18:36 |
| xubuntu775 | great. | 18:36 |
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| peyam | hi | 19:49 |
| peyam | Hdmi is not working | 19:49 |
| peyam | how do I fix it? | 19:49 |
| TheSheep | !details | peyam | 19:56 |
| ubottu | peyam: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 19:56 |
| peyam | Hi I have a problem with my xubuntu. I cant use a dual screen using a hdmi cable | 19:56 |
| peyam | http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html | 19:57 |
| peyam | I tried this one. it worked several month ago .. but not anymore | 19:57 |
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