[00:39] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: btw this is probably the most drunk photo of me http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/9304304730/
[00:39] <shadeslayer> or well http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/9304305114/in/photostream/
[00:40] <yofel> you didn't really give the impression of being drunk at that point...
[00:40] <yofel> or maybe that's just because vishesh was worse ^^
[00:40] <shadeslayer> oh heh
[00:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah, I think there's a video of us doing shots
[00:41] <shadeslayer> but I don't have it
[00:41] <shadeslayer> but that's not online I think :P
[00:41] <yofel> IIRC mck was making pictures at least
[00:41] <shadeslayer> and I'd prefer it that way
[00:41] <yofel> right
[00:42] <shadeslayer> ^^
[02:01] <manchicken> Howdy
[02:56] <valorie> Quintasan & shadeslayer: weed is legal in two states so far; mine, Washington, and Colorado
[02:57] <valorie> quite a few others have medical marij. laws
[02:58] <shadeslayer> yeah, I need weed for ... uh ... my joint pain
[03:00] <valorie> pfff
[03:00] <shadeslayer> ;)
[03:01] <valorie> it was always ridiculous to make it illegal
[03:01] <valorie> it's a plant!
[03:18] <ScottK> valorie: Cocaine, hash, and lots of drugs are essentially plants.
[03:22] <valorie> *essentially*
[03:23] <valorie> also, coca leaves aren't bad for people
[03:23] <shadeslayer> mmm .. how convinient that I'm also a vegetarian
[03:23] <shadeslayer> It's like we're the perfect match!
[03:23] <valorie> poppy syrup can be dangerous, but people used to use it for babies
[03:23] <ScottK> Sure, I've had coca tea for altitude sickness in Peru.
[03:24] <valorie> I'm not pro-drugs, nor do I use them
[03:24] <valorie> however, the anti-marijuana laws were as silly and destructive as Prohibition was, IMO
[03:25] <valorie> up through the 40s, farmers were paid a state bonus for growing hemp
[03:25] <ScottK> The whole "war on drugs" had a lot of negative effects that I think are not offset by any particular positives it may have produced.
[03:25] <valorie> then the paper companies came in and lobbied for hemp to be made illegal
[03:26] <valorie> ScottK: fully agreed
[03:26] <valorie> what works is treatment for users who want it
[03:33]  * shadeslayer lol's
[03:33] <shadeslayer> "What about Clementine? I don't know how much ISO space it takes, but I like it better then Amarok and again it has the advantage of being available for Windows and OSX too."
[03:33] <ScottK> I think the bigger issue is the cultural impact on law enforcement (and it's militarization)
[03:34] <shadeslayer> everyone's hell bent on kicking out Amarok
[03:34]  * shadeslayer doesn't even download music anymore, spotify ftw
[03:34] <ScottK> Clementine isn't KDE software.
[03:34] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I think the "advantage" argument is bs too
[03:34] <shadeslayer> Amarok is available on Windows
[03:34] <shadeslayer> dunno about OS X
[03:35] <ScottK> I think it's irrelevant.
[03:37] <valorie> I don't think our Mac crew came through with a working, up-to-date Amarok
[03:37] <valorie> but when enough people want it, someone will step forward
[03:37]  * valorie is not hell-bent on kicking out amarok
[03:38] <valorie> ScottK: yes, about the degeneration of the police
[03:38] <shadeslayer> I could have a look I suppose
[03:39] <valorie> they can call anybody a drug lord, seize and use his property and money, with planted evidence
[03:39] <valorie> I'm not saying many forces do this, but it is an open invitation to corruption
[03:39] <shadeslayer> valorie: who's this Mac crew btw?
[03:39] <valorie> well, usually one person
[03:39] <valorie> lol
[03:40] <valorie> we do have two windows guys
[03:40] <ScottK> They can even seize assets that are needed to hire the lawyer to prove them not guilty.
[03:41] <valorie> I guess there is always the temptation for corruption, but the widespread passage of the "anti-drug" laws made it a lot worse
[03:41] <valorie> and I agree that the militarization is becoming worse
[03:41] <valorie> geeez, our Seattle police are out of control
[03:41] <valorie> shooting unarmed people, etc.
[05:21] <Noskcaj> What does kubuntu still need for 14.04? I'm out of stuff to do
[06:04] <cortexA9> hello
[07:46] <bcooksley-away> does phoenix_firebrd@yahoo.com hang around here?
[12:43] <Quintasan> valorie, shadeslayer, ScottK: I've always been of opinion that everything is dangerous - when you get the dosage wrong.
[12:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: If those phots show you drunk then I'm not sure how do you look like when you are sober
[12:44] <Quintasan> :P
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:08] <Quintasan> \o
[13:20] <ari-tczew> hi NInjas
[13:20] <ari-tczew> I've proposed a merge of konversation: https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/kubuntu-packaging/konversation/+merge/210085
[13:20] <ari-tczew> in advice, thanks for reviewing
[13:23] <ari-tczew> in advance *
[13:51] <windows> I think kubuntu it froze sometimes when it uses swap  more then 1GB  becouse I have real 8gb and swap 6
[18:05] <phodius> how do i reset my widgits kd5 wont load no more?
[18:05] <phodius> plasma_shell(11737)/default unknown: file:///opt/project-neon5/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.systemtray/contents/applet/CompactApplet.qml:32: TypeError: Cannot read property 'location' of null
[18:05] <phodius> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:07] <phodius> all i wanted was to change theme through the menu but the menu widget just made all that happen
[18:07] <phodius> ave tried purging it all no luck
[18:09] <phodius> is there perhaps a config file i can edit
[18:09] <phodius> anyone know ?
[18:11] <phodius> all i want is to remove the application menu through a config file
[18:16] <phodius_> ah got disconnected there for a min so if u answered me pls repost
[18:20] <phodius_> a point to a config file would suffice if there is one
[18:23] <phodius_> is there something like kdeglobals for kde5
[20:03] <dougl> if I were to jump the gun and install my 14.04 beta and config'd my web server would I have to do it all over again in  april or would a update/dist-upgrade take it to the up to date release of the day?
[20:04] <lordievader> dougl: Updating from a beta gets you to the daily, and ultimately the daily will become the final released Trusty. So no need to reinstall things when Trusty comes out.
[20:11] <dougl> lordievader, Nice - thanks... appreciate the info
[20:12] <lordievader> dougl: :)
[20:12] <dougl> ... and all of it is LST :)
[20:13] <dougl> sweet! I am so excited :)
[20:13] <dougl> lts
[20:13] <lordievader> Jup Trusty is going to be nice.
[21:15] <windows> lock at this I use qtor and all was fine until i install ktor   in pannel info shows that its just spinning no download or open with one or other tor client XD