[03:00] <omac> hello, there, I just installed the latest with: ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap
[03:00] <omac> Flashing version 194 from devel channel
[03:01] <omac> How do I flash the latest image mentioned?  r226 is the latest available from what I understand.
[03:10] <nhaines> omac: first of all, the latest image is 194, but 206 will probably be promoted on Monday.
[03:10] <nhaines> omac: second of all, what device are you running?
[03:11] <omac> mako
[03:12] <omac> r226 was mentioned in the last email in the ubuntu-phone mailing list.
[03:12] <nhaines> The current build is 227, but it's not tested and will probably break everything and set your trash can on fire.
[03:13] <omac> I was previously using android 4.2.2 with some multirom magic, but my latest update in multirom blew away my android so I decided to just put ubuntu touch on it from now on.
[03:13] <nhaines> omac: also sorry, you're right, r226 will probably be promoted on Monday.
[03:13] <omac> I wiped everything on my mako device.  I'll do it again on Monday then.
[03:14] <omac> by the way, do I need to install the kitkat images on the phone before doing this install on Monday?
[03:14] <nhaines> In that case, try ubuntu-device-flash --revision=226 --channel=devel-proposed --bootstrap
[03:14] <omac> thanks.
[03:14] <omac> I'll try it right away.
[03:14] <nhaines> No, as long as you had the 4.4.2 radio, you should be fine.
[03:14] <sergiusens> no need to rebootstrap
[03:15] <nhaines> You should also probably switch off of the 'devel-proposed' channel once you install, but I don't recall how to do that.
[03:15] <sergiusens> you can go back and forth in most cases and only replace the read only bits
[03:15] <omac> I had 4.2.2 on it before, then I updated to 4.3 and then did an update to multirom for 4.3 which blew away my android. ouch.
[03:15] <nhaines> something something system-cli something I think.
[03:16] <nhaines> omac: better install KitKat then.  You need the right radio.
[03:16] <omac> Ok.  check install kitkat then flash.  Got it.  I'll just give the --revision and devel-proposed a shot.  Thanks.
[03:17] <nhaines> omac: you're welcome, and good luck.  :)
[03:22] <omac> thks
[03:26] <divxclub> Is there a special windows driver , cause after installation I no longer see my Nexus 7 (flo) as a valid device. Unknown device in Device manager
[03:26] <nhaines> divxclub: just adb.
[03:27] <divxclub> got it
[03:40] <divxclub> not being developer yet somewhat power user, yet I appriciate stuff listed here: http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/ pretty cool actually :D
[03:52] <omac> installed image 226 on mako.  logged into ubuntu one, wifi is up. checking for updates is slow to respond with anything.
[03:53] <omac> oops froze in bluetooth.
[03:54] <omac> I was trying to connect my Bose Mini-Link speakers to it and when I pressed "connect a headset", it froze on me.
[03:54] <omac> it's back. it restarted unity I think.
[04:01] <omac> terminal looks greyed out the first time you run it from image 226, but when you kill the terminal and restart it, the backspace and carriage return work ok.
[04:01] <omac> I'm happy.  terminal now working.
[04:02] <omac> Anyone have any success linking up bluetooth speakers(i.e. Bose Mini-Link) to Ubuntu Touch yet?
[04:03] <omac> phone calling works.
[04:04] <omac> sms sending works.
[04:15] <omac> wifi works on image 226, but from Ottawa Canada, the mobile data(data roaming?) when turned on doesn't seem to work because I go to the web browser and then I get an error with a refresh button.
[04:17] <omac> I'm ok with wifi and phone/sms service.  That's acceptable for me for the time being.
[04:18] <omac> Hats off again to the awesome work on Ubuntu touch.  It seems snappier than the previous stable image I had and it boots up faster.  Worth the flashing effort.
[04:34] <divxclub> oh wow I just realised you guys use CWM as recovery replacement ..... loven it ! Better than TW guys
[05:25] <mohdisham> What is difference between flashing device and manual download and indtallation
[05:40] <divxclub> Automatic selection of proper image for device and installation process of os
[05:41] <divxclub> vs you need to know what you're downloading
[05:41] <divxclub> and how to install 3 parts . Recovery, boot image and actual system
[05:41] <divxclub> i think
[07:09] <divxclub> Interesting in flo when opening device in file manager I do not see anything, yet in Ubuntu I see folder within a device. Also in Windows I can't copy anything in to device yet in ubuntu I can copy stuff
[08:14] <Cocochanel> Hi
[08:14] <Cocochanel> I want to install ubuntu mobile os on my samusng galaxy s4
[08:15] <Cocochanel> Can anyone please tell me how to install ubuntu mobile os on my S4?
[08:41] <SidPayton> [QUESTION] Hey everyone. I'm running Android 4.4.2 now and after I tried to update ubuntu touch from the dual boot app it first came up with an error message "missing command". After reinstalling the ubuntu app script it works again. But now when I use latest trusty build I get version 195. Aren' t we at a promoted version above 220 since friday? Thanks for your help.
[09:17] <r3pwn> Is there any developer support here? (I need help with porting UT to a new device)
[09:18] <nhaines> Not so much early in the morning on a Sunday.
[09:18] <nhaines> Moreso on weekdays during European business hours.  :)  But if you ask your question, maybe someone will be around.
[09:18] <r3pwn> Didn't even think of that. I probably should be sleeping now. XD
[09:19] <nhaines> Both of us.  XD
[09:20] <r3pwn> Okay. So I ot everything to compile correctly and flash through recovery, but on boot, it just restarts itself. Do you think that this is caused by the "stack override" hack that my kindle needs, or should i begin to look elsewhere (logcat or something else)
[09:20] <r3pwn> *got
[09:21] <nhaines> People will want logs.  Preferably linked to from pastebin.ubuntu.com.
[09:22] <r3pwn> and what type of log should it be (i don't believe adb hast started up yet)?
[09:23] <nhaines> That's a good question that I don't know the answer to!  I'd be curious about the kernel logs for a start.
[09:23] <r3pwn> Once i unbrick this damn thing, I can do anything to it. Just a few more minutes on that. (I accidentally missed a "/" and overwrote my virtual sdcard with a zip file)
[09:24] <r3pwn> I believe it's under /proc/last_kmesg, but that continues to run, so booting to recovery to grab it would include everything from the recovery booting, too.
[09:25] <nhaines> Could strip the recovery stuff out though, right?
[09:27] <r3pwn> Yeah, if I was able to tell where it started. Brb. Gonna go try that. (I'll use the UT CWM-based recovery to hopefully reduce the amount of excess stuff in the kmesg.)
[09:27] <nhaines> Good luck.  :)
[09:28] <r3pwn> Thanks.
[09:32] <timppa> Hi! Any "Manta" users online? I would like to ask about the current status of UT on it. I'm planning buying one for sw development and testing purposes. Is it stable for daily use?
[09:38] <r3pwn> @timppa, a "manta" is one of the nexus 4 variants, correct?
[09:41] <timppa> manta is nexus 10
[09:43] <nhaines> timppa: I don't believe that's going to be supported.
[09:44] <timppa> nhaines: Um, have I missed something? Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 are supported?
[09:45] <nhaines> timppa: they're dropping them.
[09:45] <nhaines> Nexus 4, 2013 Nexus 7, and... that's it, I think.
[09:46] <timppa> oh, I was under the impression that the old Nexus 7 support is being dropped only
[09:46]  * nhaines digs up the email
[09:49] <nhaines> timppa: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg05889.html
[09:50] <nhaines> They're dropping grouper, manta, and maguro.
[09:50] <timppa> :(
[09:50] <timppa> then I think it's pointless to buy one
[09:51] <nhaines> I wouldn't.
[09:51] <timppa> will the new nexus 7 support side stage?
[09:51] <nhaines> It should already?
[09:51] <timppa> ok, that's good news, the old one did not. At least when I tried it, it was a while ago
[09:52] <nhaines> Well, it didn't exist in 13.10.  :)
[09:52] <timppa> oh, it was back then
[09:52] <nhaines> 14.04 will be the first tablet UI phase.
[09:52] <timppa> I need to buy nexus 7 then ;)
[09:52] <timppa> thanks!
[09:53] <nhaines> And then 14.10 will be the first desktop UI development cycle.  (Possibly 15.04, but let's cross our fingers.)
[09:53] <nhaines> And after that, then the cool hybrid device convergence can start to be worked on.  XD
[09:54] <timppa> and that's when things will get very interesting. I'm waiting for it already! :)
[09:57] <nhaines> It's going to be a very interesting ride.  :)
[09:57] <nhaines> A year from now, we'll have nice phones and tablets to buy--then we won't have to worry about "what Android device should I buy and reflash with Ubuntu?"
[09:58] <nhaines> Hopefully the emulator will be much nicer by then too.
[09:59] <timppa> sure, hopefully they'll have the meizu and bq devices available soon :)
[10:00] <nhaines> I'm not a big fan of buying 1st gen devices, but they do look pretty nice.
[10:00] <nhaines> So far my Nexus 5 runs Ubuntu great except for sound where it's lousy.  But for 14.10 it should get better.  ;)
[10:03] <timppa> hopefully yes, I was planning to buy the N5 but decided to not because of the support it currently has
[10:03] <timppa> About the mail on the ml: The
[10:03] <timppa> platform chosen to be supported on our way to 14.04 is the NEW nexus 7
[10:03] <timppa> device (razor).
[10:04] <timppa> what is the difference in "razor" and "flo" ?
[10:04] <timppa> you happen to know?
[10:04] <cjwatson> SidPayton: No, I believe the aim is to promote a new image on Monday, rather than doing it last thing in the week and then most of the developers disappearing for the weekend
[10:07] <nhaines> timppa: I don't know, actually.
[10:07] <timppa> Aha, found this from xda: Flo is the device specific codename name (N7 2013 WiFi). Razor is the codename for the board.
[10:07] <nhaines> cjwatson: where's the fun in that?  :)
[10:07] <cjwatson> nhaines: I think the theory is that we have more than enough fun as it is
[10:08] <nhaines> timppa: aha. :)  Yeah, I thought I was all clever with takju (Galaxy Nexus GSM unlocked), and I came to Ubuntu Touch and it was suddenly maguro.  :)
[10:08] <nhaines> cjwatson: hard to argue with that.
[10:08] <timppa> or maybe it's vice versa...
[12:54] <aeffle> hello
[12:54] <aeffle> is there one one who could tell me, where I can see the ubunto touch milestones?
[12:59] <vj> just booted into the ubntu cli mode on the phone
[12:59] <vj> what do i do now
[12:59] <vj> nothing seems to be happening.
[13:03] <Akshay_> sir iam using a android device
[13:03] <Akshay_> can i port ubuntu touch t oit
[13:09] <Akshay_> can any one help me in porting ubuntu touch to xolo q700
[16:17] <JoseExposito> Hi! Does someone knows if Qt 5.2 is available now in Ubuntu Phone?
[16:24] <aquarius> JoseExposito, I don't think it's available until the next image is promoted, but I'm not sure
[16:25] <JoseExposito> aquarius, and do you know if it is a date for the next image?
[16:25] <aquarius> I do not know, I'm afraid. I know it's being worked on pretty hard :)
[16:26] <JoseExposito> aquarius, ok thank you very much!
[16:31] <r3pwn> Hello all! I am having a Ubuntu Touch issue (custom compiled version keeps boot-looping), and I *believe* that it's related to the fact that my device (kindle fire hd 7") needs a "stack override" hack (changes the memory offsets of a few things) to be in place in order to have the same experience as a bootloader unlock (no proper bootloader unlock exists for this device). If anyone could take a look at the log here: http://pastebi
[16:31] <r3pwn> uld  be very appreciative.
[19:24] <basketball> how do i get the emulator
[19:24] <basketball> !emulator
[19:48] <basketball> how do i install the ubuntu touch emulator
[19:50] <t1mp> hello, I just got a nexus 4. I don't know which version of Android is on it, does that matter? If I just follow the steps from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install to install Ubuntu I'll be fine right?
[19:50] <popey> t1mp: update to 4.4
[19:50] <popey> in android, then do the install
[19:51] <t1mp> popey: okay, thanks :)
[19:51] <basketball> popey:  do you know how to install the emulator
[19:51] <popey> basketball: yes, one moment
[19:51] <basketball> ok thanks popey
[19:51] <popey> basketball: are you on ubuntu?
[19:52] <basketball> yes 14.04
[19:52] <popey> basketball: install ubuntu-emulator
[19:53] <basketball> ok what exactly is it
[19:53] <popey> its a package ☻
[19:53] <popey> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-emulator
[19:53] <popey> ubuntu-emulator create "foo"
[19:53] <popey> ubuntu-emulator run "foo"
[19:55] <dansuf> hi, i am trying to run ubuntu touch on my phone but it doesnt boot and i have this message [    7.999633] RAMDISK: EOF while reading compressed data
[19:55] <dansuf> [    7.999938] uncompression error
[19:55] <dansuf> [    8.024780] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[19:57] <dansuf> any suggestions how to fix that?
[19:58]  * t1mp updating from android 4.2 to 4.3.. then to 4.4.. and then to ubuntu :)
[20:04] <basketball> alan pope
[20:11] <dansuf> Is it needed to have ubuntu-touch files to test the ubuntu-touch kernel? Can I test it with standard cyanogenmod installed?
[20:12] <DrPc> hi
[20:12] <DrPc> how to install ubuntu phone on sony device ?
[20:13] <dansuf> DrPc: Did you check if somebody has already ported your model?
[20:14] <t1mp> !devices | DrPc
[20:15] <DrPc> dansuf: not yet!
[20:15] <DrPc> ubot5: thank's
[20:17] <basketball> ubot5:  are you ubottu
[20:26] <t1mp> ubot5 is not a real person :)
[20:26] <Tassadar> mobile data seem to work on deb build, nic
[20:26] <Tassadar> e
[20:30] <miseria> "disfrutamos hablando siempre de lo malo de los demas, pero nos duele en el alma cuando hablan mal de uno mismo" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[20:33] <dansuf> I am testing ubuntu-touch kernel with standard cyanogenmod installed and i have this issue: "RAMDISK: EOF while reading compressed data" in last_kmsg. How can I fix that?
[20:33] <Tassadar> why would you do that Oo
[20:34] <dansuf> Tassadar: Do you mean testing it with caynogenmod?
[20:34] <Tassadar> yeah
[20:34] <dansuf> Because it's my everyday system and it is easier for me to test on that
[20:36] <Tassadar> well the obvious thing would be that the initrd is corrupted
[20:37] <dansuf> Is it someway connected with the system that I use? I tried booting it with ubuntu but it also went into a panic loop but I didnt suceed in retrieving last_kmesg
[20:38] <Tassadar> how did you install that kernel?
[20:39] <dansuf> using fastboot
[20:39] <Tassadar> and the boot image was created by..?
[20:39] <dansuf> It was compiled by me
[20:39] <Tassadar> yeah, but the boot.img was output of the compilation or what?
[20:40] <dansuf> I used the brunch command
[20:40] <dansuf> At the beggining I had a slightly different error
[20:40] <dansuf> that gzip is not configured
[20:40] <Tassadar> oh, so you built the whole system
[20:40] <dansuf> so it stopped a little bit earlier
[20:41] <Tassadar> show me the whole last_kmesg on pastebin or somewhere maybe there's a bit more info in there
[20:41] <dansuf> http://dansuf.no-ip.biz/last_kmsg
[20:44] <Tassadar> hmm, can you upload the boot.img file somewher too?
[20:44] <Tassadar> which device is that, by the way?
[20:44] <dansuf> It's Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman
[20:48] <dansuf> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/91665198/boot.img
[20:49] <dansuf> The newest boot.img where I tried to use the "break=top" option as suggested on the wiki but with no success
[20:50] <Tassadar> seems fine to me
[20:50] <Tassadar> but CyanogenMod wouldn't boot with it anyway, ubuntu's initrd is totally different
[20:51] <dansuf> So it does make a difference
[20:51] <dansuf> But it wouldnt panic in that way, I suppose
[20:52] <Tassadar> yeah
[20:52] <Tassadar> it fails to extract the initrd, for some reason
[20:53] <Guest4761> I want do a dual boot on nexus 4--> ubuntu-touch and andriod 4.4
[20:53] <dansuf> I said before, at the begginning it didnt even extract it because it said gzip is not configured
[20:53] <aquarius> Guest4761, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation
[20:54] <dansuf> i added an option to the config , it was "config_rd_gzip" or something like that
[20:54] <Guest4761> aquarius, thanks :)
[20:56] <Guest4761> is whatsapp available on ubuntu-touch?
[20:56] <dansuf> Anyway, thank you I'll try to get the last_kmsg after running on ubuntu but definitely not today.
[20:57] <Tassadar> dansuf: try to search for GZIP in kernel menuconfig and enable everything which seems related)
[20:58] <dansuf> Tassadar: Ok, thanks,
[21:00] <r3pwn> Does anyone know how I specify a custom "fstab" file when compiling Ubuntu touch? Do I need to modify BoardConfig.Mk?
[21:12] <dansuf> Tassadar: I have just checked the config and it seems that every option with gzip is enabled
[21:21] <t1mp> I just installed ubuntu touch trusty image 194, but I don't have wifi (in system-settings/network i don't see any networks)
[21:21] <t1mp> does anyone know about that issue?
[21:26] <t1mp> oh the network seems to work, it just doesn't show in system settings
[21:42] <vthompson> Does anyone know if there's a way to get the PPA (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily) to generate a build?
[21:42] <vthompson> We pushed a fix to get music app to build again and I wanted to verify things are A-OK before we push the other apps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1284637
[21:44] <popey> vthompson: its automatic
[21:44] <vthompson> popey, it's last build attempt was 46 hours ago
[21:45] <popey> hmm
[21:45] <popey> will need to poke fginther or someone else from ci when they wake tomorrow
[21:47] <vthompson> Ok, I'll try to do just that tomorrow morning.
[21:49] <popey> vthompson: I'll speak to them in my morning
[21:50] <vthompson> popey, sounds good. Thanks!
[22:18] <basketball> popey:  why does creating a emulator take so long i started it when you told me to and now it is still like 20 min left
[22:18] <nhaines> Huh, that does seem a little excessive.
[22:18] <nhaines> The good news is that it's faster the second time. :)
[22:23] <popey> basketball: it's arm, it takes a long while
[22:24] <popey> there's also an x86 version which is much quicker
[22:24] <basketball> i only have 1 gb of ram on pc
[22:30] <popey> that wont help
[22:30] <popey> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/ubuntu-touch-x86-emulator-better.html
[22:34] <r3pwn> Can anyone please assist me in fixing the error on line 432 and 433 of http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7062520/?
[22:41] <basketball> popey: i ran it and it shows a phone with a blank scren
[22:44] <popey> basketball: it takes a while
[22:45] <basketball> it is stuck on init: cannot find '/sbin/adbd', disabling 'adbd'
[22:47] <basketball> popey:  this is the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/7064475/
[22:47] <popey> looks broken
[22:48] <popey> r3pwn has the same error
[22:49] <basketball> whatever ill just uninstall it
[22:52] <r3pwn> I'm just looking to port it to my device. Since it mentioned mounting, I had thought it was fstab-related.
[22:53] <r3pwn> Just an FYI I am using the 4.2.2 branch. Should I try migrating to the 4.4.2 one?
[22:53] <r3pwn> popey
[22:58] <basketball> popey: do i have to plug in my tablet to use it
[22:59] <basketball> popey:  r3pwn  what is the user name and password
[23:00] <r3pwn> basketball, to log in to UT?
[23:00] <r3pwn> try "root" and "phablet"
[23:04] <basketball> r3pwn: that didnt work
[23:11] <r3pwn> basketball: What exactly do you mean by "log in"?
[23:12] <PeterPugh> Hi guys complete touch noob here. Just wondered if there was a port for the rockchip rk3188 tabs and phabs?
[23:14] <aquarius>  !devices | PeterPugh
[23:15] <PeterPugh> Yeah just been browsing and trying to work out what chip set they have
[23:16] <vthompson> Can the emulator be used to test n7 and n10 form factors?
[23:17] <popey> vthompson: not yet
[23:17] <PeterPugh> why they are aimed at models rather than chip sets has me confussed
[23:17] <popey> because we need devices we can actually test on
[23:18] <popey> not hypothetical devices, real ones
[23:18] <PeterPugh> pipo, cube cheap chineese flood the market ones that would do much :)
[23:19] <PeterPugh> from andriod roms they are all very similar
[23:19] <popey> many of those cheap chinese devices have no kernel sources
[23:20] <PeterPugh> armhf are they not?
[23:20] <popey> sure, with binary bits
[23:20] <PeterPugh> apols just trying to find some initial facts as not much avail
[23:30] <basketball> popey:  once i log into the emulator how do i start the gui
[23:31] <popey> basketball: it starts automatically - assuming its not broken
[23:31] <basketball> then i guess it is broken popey
[23:31] <popey> could be today.
[23:32] <basketball> y
[23:33] <basketball> are a lot broken popey
[23:35] <popey> basketball: I'll test it here, and file a bug so the devs know
[23:35] <basketball> i just uninstalled it
[23:36] <popey> will take a while to test here
[23:36] <basketball> should i reinstall
[23:37] <popey> well, i haven't had a chance to test yet
[23:37] <basketball> ok please test it
[23:40] <vthompson> I literally just created an emulator in the last hour. I doubt it's broken.
[23:40] <vthompson> It did take a good 10-20 minutes from it to go from a black screen to the welcome screen.
[23:41] <popey> good to know, thanks vthompson
[23:41] <vthompson> Once the log mentions the login info it wasn't too much longer.
[23:42] <popey> i have just booted an emulator I have on my machine
[23:42] <popey> been up 6 mins and I see an apport process ☻
[23:43] <aquarius> heh. New wheeze: have your dual-boot Ubuntu/Android phone booted into Android, plug it in to your machine with USB and enable debugging. Then, start the Ubuntu SDK, which attempts to talk to the device but fails because it isn't Ubuntu... and what it does is remount it, which pops up a new Nautilus window, over and over and over again ;)
[23:43]  * popey creates a new emulator
[23:46] <n-iCe> hellooo
[23:46] <popey> hi
[23:46] <n-iCe> how you doing?
[23:48] <popey> great thanks
[23:53] <n-iCe> in order to get the lastest version, is this correct?
[23:53] <n-iCe> ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap
[23:54] <surgemcgee> Hey is ken.vandine@ubuntu.com around?
[23:55] <popey> he's not online, his irc nick is kenvandine
[23:56] <surgemcgee> Thanks
[23:56] <popey> np
[23:56] <n-iCe> hi popey
[23:56] <surgemcgee> I was hoping for some Box2D-qml example code if you know it off the top of your head, otherwise I will find out later..
[23:57] <popey> surgemcgee: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2014/03/02/qml-and-box2d-game-template-for-ubuntu-touch/
[23:57] <aquarius> surgemcgee, see http://blog.mikeasoft.com/
[23:57] <aquarius> heh.
[23:57] <vthompson> n-iCe, if you want the latest proposed image use the devel-proposed channel. But devel contains all the promoted images.
[23:57] <n-iCe> vthompson: which one do you use, and why
[23:58] <n-iCe> and how do I update my phone dialy?
[23:58] <popey> n-iCe: system settings -> updates
[23:58] <popey> that has an over the air update system
[23:58] <popey> (on the phone)
[23:58] <vthompson> n-iCe, I use devel-proposed because I want to be on the bleeding edge. If something goes bad, I just go back to a previous image
[23:59] <n-iCe> popey: awesome, even if I don't use the devel-proposed?
[23:59] <popey> n-iCe: we have "channels", if you're on the devel channel you stay on the devel channel