[02:43] <Unit193> brainwash: I should presume you aren't there, with an idle time of 5h?
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[12:01] <bluesabre> alrighty, mugshot 0.2.2 is out, fixes some things I'm glad nobody had found before I did :)
[12:01] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/mugshot/0.2/0.2.2
[12:36] <starrats> good morning, my question is this,  I had to totally re-install 14.04, had some problems with dist-upgrade, sent a pastebin.ubuntu.com and also to the launchpad, did anyone see it?
[12:38] <starrats> I think I took care of that problem but today as I was running the update/upgrade I got a not saying 1 package kept back and the package is this 'usb-modeswitch-data' what does this mean?
[12:38] <starrats> note/not
[12:45] <brainwash> starrats: it cannot be upgraded due to a dependency issue
[12:48] <starrats> well I did the update/upgrade successfully and when I went to dist-upgrade it said there were no upgrades and it said 1 package kept back and that package was the 'usb-modeswitch-data'.  I did not get any other warning concerning any other errors.
[12:50] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch/+bug/1270499
[12:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1270499 in usb-modeswitch (Ubuntu) "Install conflict with Trusty repos (with workaround)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:50] <starrats> yesterday I did get a warning that popped up about xscreensaver and xlockmore but that didn't show up at all today and late last night I continued the dist-upgrade thru pasckage manager and all went quite well
[12:51] <brainwash> we you asked to confirm the removal of xscreensaver?
[13:05] <starrats> don't know if it was removed, the little window that popped up during dist-upgrade said something about a restart, I did and then I did the package manager dist-upgrade and there was a little note that 55 pkgs wer not going to be installed but this morning there wasn't any alert on top by the clock/date but the pointer did freeze on me again and I just a hard shutdown on the laptop and then tried again and the pointer was not 'fro
[13:05] <starrats> zen', I need to know how to stop the 'frozen pointer' problem and freezes just as I want to put my password in.
[13:12] <starrats> I did send my problems to pastebin.ubuntu.com last night about my problems that occurred after I re-installed 14.04
[13:13] <starrats> it was a copy of the terminal output
[13:30] <starrats> my question to someone here that can answer me is this.  Did you see my pastebin.ubuntu on my install problems, lines 17 and 18 are the same as today, using apt-get install -f ?
[13:36] <bluesabre> starrats: link?
[13:36] <bluesabre> catfish 1.0.2 released: https://launchpad.net/catfish-search/1.0/1.0.2
[14:50] <brainwash> starrats: please file a launchpad report and attach your terminal output to the report
[16:13] <starrats> brainwash:  I filed a launch report thru pastebin.ubuntu.com last night and it's still the same.  sorry for the late reply was downstairs making breakfast and helping my gf.
[16:16] <brainwash> starrats: pastebin.ubuntu.com is just a pastebin service and not an actual bug report
[16:17] <starrats> okay let me see if I can get it on launchpad
[16:26] <starrats> on the launchpad.net, where do I paste my terminal output, I see nothing about reporting a bug, sorry
[16:35] <brainwash> starrats: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[16:36] <brainwash> oh, the link for "Report a bug" in the top right corner seems to be broken
[16:36] <brainwash> it redirects you to the wiki page
[16:37] <brainwash> starrats: you can open a terminal window and run "ubuntu-bug <package>" instead
[20:29] <brainwash> Unit193: anything you want to ask?
[20:29] <Unit193> Wsa kind of wondering how long apport retracing took..
[20:30] <brainwash> in general?
[20:30] <brainwash> btw https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/4.11.1-2ubuntu1
[20:32] <brainwash> "xubuntu seamless greeter to desktop transition" is now activated, hopefully we don't encounter any hardware/driver specific issues
[20:33] <brainwash> works fine here, restricted and open source AMD driver
[20:34] <ali1234> Unit193: there's a queue for that... can be fast or slow
[20:34] <ali1234> you can run it locally in a chroot with just a couple commands
[20:34] <Unit193> brainwash: Something is crappy here.
[20:35] <Unit193> ali1234: Ah, well then. :/
[20:35] <ali1234> http://www.piware.de/2011/08/apport-retrace-made-useful/
[20:35] <ali1234> might be a little outdated
[20:36] <brainwash> oh, worth a bookmark
[20:39] <brainwash> ali1234: bug 1056978
[20:39] <ubottu> bug 1056978 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056978
[20:39] <brainwash> so it got solved in metacity
[20:40] <brainwash> maybe the solution could be adopted
[20:40] <ali1234> i tried to fix this
[20:41] <ali1234> the frame drawing code is a huge mess in xfwm
[20:41] <ali1234> and in the end, you can't make invisible windows in X that still receive input. it's just not possible.
[20:41] <ali1234> i will look at how metacity did it
[20:41] <ali1234> but i suspect it will be done in the compositor
[20:42] <brainwash> but isn't xfwm4 a fork or whatever of metacity?
[20:42] <ali1234> sort of
[20:42] <ali1234> but it was a long time ago
[20:42] <ali1234> they are very different now
[20:42] <brainwash> ah, I see :/
[20:44] <ali1234> if anyone else wants to have a shot at this i'll be happy to provide help/mentoring
[20:46] <brainwash> you are one of the few people who are somewhat familiar with xfwm4 =S
[20:59] <Noskcaj> xfwm4 is now updated for greeter-desktop transition
[20:59] <ali1234> thanks
[21:00] <ali1234> hopefully if it works fine in the release it can be turned on by default
[21:01] <brainwash> Noskcaj: thanks :)
[21:02] <Noskcaj> the uploader changed it from cflags to cppflags, is that a problem?
[21:03] <ali1234> i dunno. if it works, it works
[21:03] <ali1234> it definitely shouldn't affect anything else
[21:22] <brainwash> Noskcaj: can you please mark bug 1258978 as wishlist?
[21:22] <ubottu> bug 1258978 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "can't lock the screen from the logout dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258978