| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1290155] package libqtcore4 failed to install @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290155 (by Raphael Silveira) | 01:19 |
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| ScottK | shadeslayer: Please have a look at the kde4libs version requirement in your last kwalletmanager upload and then fix. It's stuck dep-wait ATM. | 04:55 |
| valorie | hi all, I see this https://trello.com/c/lXnsdJw1/23-kde-sc-4-13-beta1 but no more notes on it -- the Dot article is going out in a few hours and there is nothing about us..... | 05:50 |
| valorie | this cold is horrid, so I'm turning off my computer now | 05:55 |
| soee | good morning | 07:07 |
| yofel | apachelogger: any update on bug 1281036? | 09:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1281036 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Why is kdm still depending on consolekit?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281036 | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ck pointless, logind patch somewhere and intended to land upstream, whether or not that is actually going to happen I do not know | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | there was something peculiar though | 09:57 |
| apachelogger | like a lot of stuff depends on ck | 09:57 |
| yofel | I know that ximion did a bunch of things to get rid of ck in tanglu, including patching. So I guess we'll postpone that to 14.10? | 09:58 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well the kdm level dep can be removed, there is no point in us having it | 10:01 |
| apachelogger | but for example polkit-qt also deps ck | 10:01 |
| Riddell | morning | 10:01 |
| apachelogger | so even if the dep goes away from kdm you won't get rid of ck unless polkit-qt is fixed | 10:01 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yo | 10:01 |
| yofel | moin Riddell | 10:02 |
| yofel | true | 10:02 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did we mis-communicate over 4.12.80? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | ooh interesting, dolphin got a dropbox plugin fileviewdropboxplugin.so | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | yofel: I totally fixed the bug in workspace bzr... :P | 10:17 |
| yofel | oh oops ^^ | 10:17 |
| soee | someone is fixig this errors http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.80_trusty.html ? :) | 10:19 |
| Riddell | soee: yes, but any help appreciated | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | yofel: after looking at it for a bit I think the polkit dep could also simply be removed | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | though it does direct dbus stuff, so I am not sure if that would not introduce unintended lockups due to stuff not being there (qtdbus likes to do that) | 10:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: added libqmobipocket-dev to kfilemetadata, unless there's a reason you missed it out | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | newest bug reports make me cringe again | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | so very pontless | 10:46 |
| soee | Riddell: sure if i would only know hot to do it :) i have to many projects (web development) to find time to get into packaging :/ | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | you know, I really need web developers btw :P | 10:48 |
| soee | apachelogger: if you need help feel free to contact me:) | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | there's a card or two having to do with web development ^^ | 10:49 |
| soee | card or two ? | 10:49 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1281036] Why is kdm still depending on consolekit? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1281036 (by Simon Rettberg) | 11:08 |
| Riddell | why is kdm still existing is a better question :) | 11:10 |
| soee | oh kdm was a life savior few times last week :D | 11:20 |
| Riddell | soee: why's that? | 11:21 |
| soee | Riddell: i had some problems when lightdm didn't start and kdm worked for me | 11:23 |
| soee | but after fresh install 2-3 weeks ago all seems to be just fine | 11:23 |
| soee | btm im impressed how quick sometimes bugs get fixed in ubuntu :) one day after my report there was fix released https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1289420 :) | 11:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1289420 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "Regression in the gpu-manager: bbswitch quirks erroneously applied" [High,Fix released] | 11:25 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:28 |
| Riddell | small review http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/10/ubuntu_flavours_review/?page=2 | 11:53 |
| Riddell | "While OpenSUSE remains my favorite KDE distro, Kubuntu 14.04 is looking like a great way to run KDE atop a Debian-based system." hmm | 11:53 |
| Riddell | I tried opensuse and still really dislike the re-themeing and yast stuff | 11:54 |
| soee_ | used it a long time ago, than like a year ago in VM | 11:54 |
| soee_ | but Kubuntu is the one | 11:55 |
| soee_ | i remember one feature i liked about opensuse i think | 11:55 |
| soee_ | it was one click installation button | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | ihave open suse 13.1 on a separate hdd, since I heard good things , but 2days in and i have repos problems | 11:56 |
| BluesKaj | don't think I'll be playing around with it much longer | 11:57 |
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| Riddell | morning shadeslayer :) | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer | good morning :) | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | my computer is so slow | 12:17 |
| davmor2 | shadeslayer: it'll be that god awful operating system you use get windows 8.1 it'll cure all that for you ;) | 12:18 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I hear it has boxes and rectangly stuff | 12:18 |
| shadeslayer | sounds all cool and futuristic | 12:18 |
| davmor2 | shadeslayer: Haha | 12:19 |
| davmor2 | Yeah the box is what holds the dvd and the rectangles are the things that leak from your wallet to pay for the sticker that accompanies the dvd :D | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: mind fixing kwalletmanager? | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | 4.12.3 in Trusty | 12:22 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ok | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | I don't have upload rights :( | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | W8.1 is a tablet OS , doesn't belong on a regular desktop or lappy | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | most of my friends are windows users, and they're switching back to W7 on any new machines they buy | 12:24 |
| * Riddell doesn't see much of interest on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/ except 1 qt session | 12:28 | |
| Riddell | speaking of which, how's the 5.2 upload going Mirv? | 12:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: can you remember why you made the baloo package replace kde-runtime ? | 12:30 |
| Riddell | trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/kio_timeline.so', which is also in package kde-runtime 4:4.12.3-0ubuntu1 | 12:55 |
| Riddell | ah hah | 12:55 |
| Riddell | baloo does overlap | 12:55 |
| Mirv | Riddell: powers that be waiting for bug #1207270 fix to be perfect plus at the same time some autopilot test regressions hunting. the landing itself would be ready, everything is at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-006/+packages | 13:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1207270 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Font size too small in browser with Qt 5.1 / DPR rework" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1207270 | 13:06 |
| Mirv | I'm now entertaining myself with arm64 builds so that those could also be binary copied | 13:06 |
| Mirv | powerpc/ppc64el is in pretty good shape | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun_: about the navigation, it's too much, just make it an actual item at the top of the page, not magically appearing | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | it makes the site too busy | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | also it makes for random visual nonesense | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun_: http://i.imgur.com/hQUnhEc.png like here I have a menu ontop of a menu, and the overlay menu doesn't even have a search, so it's a 50% less useful menu than the menu it is layed over | 13:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: did you get my email with all of the ready packages? | 13:17 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yes I should have uploaded them all | 13:19 |
| Riddell | although do let me know if I didn't | 13:20 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kdoctools, kio, kservice need upload | 13:22 |
| Riddell | ok onto it | 13:23 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kdoctools is the latest | 13:24 |
| sgclark | hmm, ok let me check | 13:25 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kio and kservice should also be the latest | 13:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I have no idea why they are red then :( I fixed not-installed | 13:26 |
| Riddell | sgclark: mm yes you may be right looking at the contents of the packages in the PPA, will upload again | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: now you know :) | 13:29 |
| sgclark | Riddell: also I noticed krunner has the 4 version thing going on | 13:30 |
| Riddell | sgclark: uploaded again, let's see how that does | 13:30 |
| sgclark | Riddell: thanks! | 13:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: know what? | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: why baloo replaces kde-runtime | 13:30 |
| Riddell | ah yes, I do | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I think all that was left for baloo was license stuff | 13:32 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yep, onto it | 13:34 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I also split out the libraries | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: cool :) | 13:34 |
| Riddell | and just removing nepomuk from kde-runtime, ah nepomuk, we knew thee well atrocious name and all | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | why remove it? | 13:35 |
| sgclark | lol crashtastic | 13:35 |
| Riddell | no longer builds with it | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: huh? Amarok still depends on Nepomuk | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | well | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | 'depends' | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | so if you have nepomuk installed, you get meta data integration with amarok | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | same for digikam I believe | 13:36 |
| Riddell | kde-runtime doesn't build with nepomuk any more by default | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I'd consider that a problem | 13:36 |
| Riddell | we could turn it on if those parts are still needed | 13:37 |
| Riddell | vhanda around yet to ask him? | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | poke Alex / tsdgeos for the correct course of action here IMHO | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: looks like no one cares about app-install-data or knows how to fix it :( | 13:39 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Did you get my ping? | 13:40 |
| * Riddell adds an KDERUNTIME_BUILD_NEPOMUK=true | 13:40 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: kwalletmanager? | 13:40 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Yes. | 13:40 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I can't upload a fixed version, Riddell should have fixed it | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah, I saw, much fancy | 13:42 |
| Riddell | still on the todo list, will get to it shortly | 13:42 |
| Riddell | what needs doing? | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: build depends is the wrong version | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: supposedly one could do that stuff outside canonical tho :P | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: "supposedly" | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | just requires an archive mirror and a bit of python haxxoring to make it run | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | it be not documented afaik | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | archive mirror ought to be the most exhausting thing here ^^ | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | mm | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: good code is documentation :P | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | really, the problem is the mirror part | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | you need a full local mirror from what I have seen | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | then the crawler will walk through all packages and extract desktop files | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | I /could/ potentially do it | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just send a bump mail to the thread :P | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | every day | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | until someone does something ^^ | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://trello.com/c/3qlMcV3D/87-evaluate-apport-kde | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | we do need apport-kde | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | to submit stuff to daisy | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | no we do not | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | we need python-apport to submit stuff to daisy | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | we need apport-kde to handle !kde apps | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer | oh hm | 13:46 |
| Riddell | ScottK: shadeslayer: kwalletmanager uploaded! | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | true true | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | that being said *we* don't need it because we almost exclusively deal with kde apps | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | so it is not mission critical for us | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | it is however sensible to have it anyway | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | right | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://trello.com/c/f3ax0qf7 < can I start working on that? | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | of course it is not maintained, so it is all a bit fishy | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: not yet | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | https://trello.com/c/jddah0bu | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | https://trello.com/c/ai7BGDWe | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | https://trello.com/c/q4sdntKb | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | actually | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: https://trello.com/c/LXHZgmZR | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | other than that the QA boards still have stuff | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: did you finish refactoring? | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | alas, most of it is low profile, but still nicer than other things | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no, that doesn't block the bug fixes you have pending there tho | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: okay, new driver manager release then | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also FWIW, as far as I know there is no dep3 parser at this time so while the tool would be simple, the parser would need writing from scratch | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | or well, if someone wrote a parser it's likely in perl :P | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | we shall write one in the awesomest language known to man | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | assembly | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | :3 | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | what's wrong with assembly? :O | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | c is the nicest management container for asm, and asm is the nicest language to use in a c program :P | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | the perl fanboys should port their stuff to ruby, they should feel right at home while not preventing everyone else from reading the code ... | 13:54 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kdoctools needs another push, mis-named manpages in not-installed fixed | 13:55 |
| Riddell | sgclark: uploaded! | 13:58 |
| * apachelogger uploads muon with a bazillion patches | 13:59 | |
| soee | :P | 14:00 |
| soee | muon worked pretty well for me so far | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | you clearly haven't used the test case document then xD | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: there be bugs in kubuntu-driver-manager | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/NjUFucz.png | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | Apply button should be enabled | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | but it's not | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | oh la la | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | one wonders how that can break with the changes I made | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think it was broken before, but just need to confirm | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | yeah works with 0ubuntu2 | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah logic is busted :/ | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | werx for me | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | maybe I did not push | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | lemme check | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: test case : click on broadcom driver -> click on different radeon driver -> click on currently active radeon driver | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | goes kaput | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | and I can imagine why | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | well, I have no broadcom now do I? and you did not take my suggestions that you should introduce a fake mode :P | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how does that work though? | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | emit changed(true) -> emit changed(true) -> emit changed(false) | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | well but that is bugged to begin with | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | last one causes button disabling | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | so that should have been broken with ubuntu2 as well, no? | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | or did you only introduce diff handling later? | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | it is | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | this would need state tracking in the kcm :/ | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | no it wouldn't necessarily | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | oh? | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | in the slot of the module you go foreach widget: if (widget->didYouChange()) { emit changed(); return } | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | hm, yeah makes sense | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | it's cheap enough for this case | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | the other option would be simple state checking a la qmap<widget, bool> | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | that's what I was thinking | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | or actually | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | you just need qset<widget> | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | if a widget is in the set, it has changed | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | all in all it's probably some 10 sloc :P | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | next iteration | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | actually, you should do that | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | probably cheaper than asking the widget | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | since I want to get current bug fixes out | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | or not | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | it's probably all the same xD | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: personally I'd go with the hasChanged() function on widget | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | it separates the data somewhat more from the decision of what to do with the data | 14:19 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 14:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7067871/ | 14:27 |
| Riddell | sgclark: it's a plugin, it's allowed to have weird dependency information | 14:27 |
| Riddell | you can add a libkf5khtml5.lintian-override if you want | 14:28 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok thanks | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger plz upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu3.dsc | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that should be in the set? | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | or not | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please check with cj why it's not I guess | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | Uploading kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu3_source.changes: done. | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | cheerio | 14:36 |
| Riddell | agateau: no nepomuk for gwenview now? | 14:38 |
| agateau | Riddell: it is all baloo powered, now! | 14:38 |
| * Riddell looks to gwenview for the bare necessities | 14:41 | |
| agateau | Riddell: monday nag. I can has review for Ubiquity fix? https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/kde-fix-cropped-greeter-buttons/+merge/208628 | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw for arch specific install files I just do foo.install.armhf right? | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | though that won't scale for when I want to build for all arm ach's | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | *arch's | 14:49 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: no great answer that I've found | 14:49 |
| Riddell | you can do foo.install.armhf and foo.install.arm64 | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | but then that's just duplication :( | 14:49 |
| Riddell | but then you have to remember to keep them all up to date | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | or | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | symlinks | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | ln -s foo.install.arm foo.install.armhf | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | ln -s foo.install.arm foo.install.arm64 | 14:49 |
| Riddell | you can also have the failed individually installed in debian/rules depending on the arch | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | voila | 14:49 |
| Riddell | but then you have to live with --list-missing complaining | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: how so? | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | some binaries will only be built on armhf/arm64 | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ^^ any opinions on symlinks inside packaging | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | pft | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ^^ any opinions on symlinks inside packaging | 14:51 |
| ScottK | I haven't been following, so no opinion on specifics, but generically, it happens all the time. | 14:51 |
| Riddell | agateau: yes, sorry, will get to it | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: basically, kwin_gles should only be built for armhf and arm64 , and that would mean writing arch specific install files | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Right. We've had those before. | 14:53 |
| ScottK | No problem there. | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | cool, so I just write kde-window-manager.install.arm and symlink that to kde-window-manager.install.arm64 and armhf | 14:53 |
| ScottK | I believe you can. | 14:54 |
| apachelogger_ | shadeslayer: please talk with MG first, to make sure that is still what he wants | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | thx :) | 14:54 |
| ScottK | Or just symlink one to the other, no need for three. | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger_: oh okay | 14:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what are the files that differ? | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: at the very least kwin_gles | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | I haven't built the package yet without gles to see what else changes | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger_: sent him an email | 14:58 |
| apachelogger_ | oh, he is off again | 14:58 |
| apachelogger_ | he starts work way too early I say | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger_: I think he starts at 8 | 14:59 |
| apachelogger_ | some days it looks more like 7 :P | 15:00 |
| apachelogger_ | Q: is it just me or does debdelta look like a bloody big workaround | 15:01 |
| soee | any idea why ark always neds a lot of time to open archive, even very small one ? | 15:04 |
| apachelogger_ | no | 15:05 |
| apachelogger_ | it largely depends on the compression format used though, some have more sensible access methods than others AFAIK | 15:05 |
| soee | maybe im missing some dependency, not sure | 15:05 |
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| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw which cache rescans do you talk about here https://trello.com/c/q4sdntKb | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: see description | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | did you just add that | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes | 15:34 |
| * shadeslayer is trying to reproduce on a live session | 15:34 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/vids/Kubuntu%2014.04.webm | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | so what part of that is wrong? it scans for languages -> installs -> scans for languages again? | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | so why does that not play in dragon | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | if stuff was only broken half as much it would still be broken beyond repair | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: see my comment that progress bar is not rescanning the languages, it is rescanning the xapian index | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | well, updating really | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | PHONON-GST BEGIN: void Phonon::Gstreamer::MediaObject::setError(const QString&, Phonon::ErrorType) | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | PHONON-GST "Internal data flow error." | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 15:44 |
| sgclark | Riddell: khtml ready | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't get a cache rescan when I move a language back | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I think gstreamer doesn't speak webm | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: oh, well, even after install it shouldn't update | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | it does a qapt cache update, but that ought not cause the progressbar | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | no, wrong again | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/vids/Kubuntu%2012.04.webm | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | it reopens the qapt/apt cache xD | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | the madness | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | ignore the name :P | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | its the same video | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | is it not | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | no, this one removes | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | it's the same video :P | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | now it's 403 | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah try again | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | ah wrong commnd | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: don't use apply at all | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | just move stuff around | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I don't see a cache rescan | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | boom crash | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: so what I see is -> start -> scan -> engb to selection -> scan -> engb out of selection -> scan ->... | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | nope, don't see that on the live session | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | basically whenver something moves I get a xapian rescan for some reason | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | also, i made it go kaboom | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | well that's not healthy | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | also | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | why do you test shit in the live session again | 15:50 |
| * apachelogger sighs at all the open tabs that now made him forget what he was looking at -.- | 15:51 | |
| BluesKaj | hmm, closing the lid disconnects from irc, didn't set it to do so. Must be a bug :/ | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068347/ | 15:53 |
| * apachelogger sighs at qapt | 15:54 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://open.spotify.com/track/4WamMWxFi6ts3xkIhivF5c | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | ? | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKjeTadGPgY listen to this | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | starts off like really bad punk | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | is it really bad punk? | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | might easily be worse | 15:57 |
| * apachelogger throws a keyboard at shadeslayer | 15:57 | |
| * shadeslayer catches | 15:57 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: granted this is alot better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcohzJvviQ | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | same band | 15:58 |
| * apachelogger aint clicking youtube links from shadeslayer anymore | 15:58 | |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | the locale kcm is also very shitty | 15:59 |
| Riddell | sgclark: uploaded! | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | it internally calls itself locale kcm, it really is called language though | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | ... | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | it's weird | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | wait what | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | whatwhatwhat | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that backtrace cannot be from a recent kcm locale | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | whatx4 | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | that backtrace should contain libkubuntu somewhere | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | the kcm has no direct access to the qapt classes anymore | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | ah, possibly old iso then | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | ........ | 16:01 |
| * shadeslayer is upgrading his install | 16:01 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: get yourself an autostart script that triggers a zsync after 15 minutes into the session | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 16:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: i386 sybol fix plasma-framework ready | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: about that gst card, if you tag something blocked, at the very least paste the relevant IRC discussion :S | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you push your baloo changes? | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | say you get hit by a bus and I need to go on rehab, someone might have a hard time finding out why exactly that card is being blocked by app-install-data | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: alternatively, can I make gwenview depend on libbaloo-dev | 16:12 |
| sgclark | Riddell: knewstuff, plasma-framework ready | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the poor bus | 16:15 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hang on, I'm looking at baloo and gwenview | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | I was looking at gwenview | 16:16 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: although I'm a little stuck so maybe you can help | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | sure, ssup | 16:16 |
| sgclark | Riddell: also I don't see khtml in que nor rebuilt recently so add that to the list | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: also, KDE SC 4.12.3 copied for Precise | 16:19 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: awooga, lovely | 16:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: pushed baloo packaging | 16:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I split it 1 package for each library as debian likes it | 16:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kept 1 package baloo for everything else | 16:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but this gives a runtime package that stuff like gwenview I expect ought to depend upon and the baloo package depends on the libraries | 16:21 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so circular dependency | 16:21 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so I altered the .symbols files to make them depend on baloo in the same way that libkdecore5 add a depends on kde-runtime in the .symbols files | 16:22 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but it doesn't seem to work, at least gwenview doesn't depend on baloo | 16:22 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: any ideas? | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | you can add it manually I think, via debian/rules | 16:22 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: for gwenview? | 16:23 |
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| shadeslayer | moment, looking at packaging | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: so gwenview depends on libbaloowhatever and baloo, baloo depends on libbaloo* .. how is that circular? | 16:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: gwenview depends on libbaloofiles4, libbaloofiles4 depends on baloo, baloo depends on libbaloofiles4 | 16:25 |
| Riddell | but libbaloofiles4 depends on baloo only as a runtime dep | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | remove baloo from libbaloofiles4 dep | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | lemme check how to do that | 16:27 |
| Riddell | so yes we could manually add baloo as a runtime dep to gwenview but I'd rather not have to remember to do that for every package which uses baloo | 16:28 |
| Riddell | I'd rather libbaloofiles4 magically added a depend on baloo for anything that needed it | 16:28 |
| Riddell | which my packaging should make happen | 16:28 |
| Riddell | but doesn't | 16:28 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps , looks like it should work | 16:32 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 16:33 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: building, give me a moment | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: interesting, I get W: libbaloofiles4: symbols-declares-dependency-on-other-package baloo | 16:40 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yeah that's expected, since that's what I added in to the symbols file | 16:41 |
| Riddell | lintian finds it obscure | 16:41 |
| Riddell | but it's what kdelibs does for kde-runtime and phonon does for phonon | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 16:41 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068587/ | 16:43 |
| Riddell | sgclark: hmm dunno, I'll take a look when I can | 16:44 |
| Riddell | sgclark: knetstuff, khtml and plasma-framework uploaded! | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | interesting | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | +er | 16:44 |
| Riddell | I wonder if the build-depend line does something in the .symbols file | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah, that's what I am trying out | 16:46 |
| jmux | What's the best way to get a patch included in Qt4 (my patch and problem is https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-37380)? | 16:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ah hah, if I just put the first line to be "libbaloofiles.so.4 libbaloofiles4 #MINVER#, baloo" then it picks it up | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | drat | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | you beat me to it | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | I was trying that out too | 16:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: well the build-depend line might do something as well | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: potentially then it's broken in kdelibs | 16:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes maybe, they're alternatives and the symbols line should tell it what alternative to use as I read https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps | 16:48 |
| Riddell | jmux: included upstream or in ubuntu packaging? | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw are you sure that fixes it? I see : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.12.80), libqjson0 (>= 0.7.1), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-sql (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0), libsolid4 (>= 4:4.12.80), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libxapian22 | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | no baloo in there | 16:49 |
| jmux | Preferably both - without the patch LibreOffice crashs with the KDE4 backend. | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I have libbaloofiles.so.4 libbaloofiles4 #MINVER#, baloo | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | jmux: file a review request on gerrit | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | for the Qt part | 16:49 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yep and when I do that I compile gwenview and it ends up with "Depends: baloo, libbaloofiles4 (>= 4:4.12.80), libc6 (>= 2.14)" | 16:50 |
| Riddell | and other depends | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: neat stuff | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | jmux: for filing a review request you need to make a gerrit account, sign the CLA, get a Qt4 git clone, commit your patch and push to the for-dev branch ( your commit should have a unique id in the commit message ) | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | jmux: http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Contribution-Guidelines | 16:52 |
| jmux | shadeslayer: Thanks. That's just like LO. | 16:52 |
| Riddell | jmux: you want it in precise I presume? | 16:53 |
| Riddell | xnox: congratulations on your new responsibilities | 16:53 |
| jmux | Riddell: Including Precise would be nice | 16:54 |
| xnox | Riddell: thanks! | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: congrats indeed | 16:54 |
| * shadeslayer hands xnox a kitty | 16:55 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: baloo uploaded to ninjas | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | awesomesauce | 16:55 |
| jmux | Riddell: But the bug is in all Qt4 versions and without the fix you can choose to run LO in KDE4 without native file pickers or include the patch. | 16:55 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: although it'll fail since I didn't upload kdepimlibs first, fixing | 16:55 |
| jmux | Riddell: If tested various workarounds but couldn't find and think of anything relyable | 16:56 |
| jmux | I've | 16:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: do you want to do gwenview or shall I? | 16:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: you're on the etherpad so you have the lock on gwenview :) | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I can | 16:57 |
| Riddell | jmux: could you report the bug to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+filebug and I'll look at doing the SRUs | 17:03 |
| jmux | Riddell: Ok - will do after pushing it to Qt Gerrit. | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: might want to repack kfilemetadata, cmake files are missing full license | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | fixed in git | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/kfilemetadata/repository/revisions/610f86145df226d4d6f4d99ec12ba1c749135a08 | 17:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: nah I don't usually bother repacking as long as upstream as it in version control that's good enough for friendly archive admins | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | yay :D | 17:11 |
| Riddell | of course what happens if it gets reviewed by an unfriendly archive admin is another matter :) | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | we send him cookies | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | ( laced with weed ) | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: upstream says keep both | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | for kwin & kwin_gles | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: John is coming over for the Frameworks sprint | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: maybe I can poke him to look at your locale patch | 17:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kwindowsystem, plasma-framework ready | 17:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: plasma-framework I uploaded, anything missing? | 17:39 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ah I uploaded it to ninjas cos I'm getting confused between kf5 and kde sc 4 | 17:41 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ok uploaded kwindowsystem plasma-framework | 17:42 |
| sgclark | Riddell: thanks! krunner is last one, hoping plasma-framework upload fixes it :) | 17:44 |
| Riddell | exciting! | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | mmm kate has an embedded copy of underscore.js | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | since 2012 | 17:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: is that a problem? licencing? | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | lintian be warning | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | though Debian has it as well | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | so I suppose it's fien | 17:52 |
| Riddell | maybe it has its own package? | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | there's too many hits with apt-file search for underscore.js | 17:53 |
| Riddell | packaging javascript is pretty faffy | 17:53 |
| Riddell | just leave it then | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | packaging the web ... heh | 17:54 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: underscore.js is packaged. Just add a depends and symlink to the packaged one. | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: sure, but which package :) | 18:38 |
| ScottK | Just a sec. | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | !find underscore.js trusty | 18:38 |
| ubottu | File underscore.js found in alembic, alot-doc, ansible-doc, atheist, bcfg2-doc, beets, beets-doc, buildbot, bzr-doc, clang-3.3-doc (and 315 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=underscore.js&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | 315 entries | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | *315* | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | I think everyone did a code copy xD | 18:39 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: libjs-sphinxdoc is probably best. | 18:40 |
| ScottK | Not all those are code copies. p.u.c gets confused by symlinks. | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: mind fixing in debian too? | 18:42 |
| ScottK | Yes. Busy with $work. | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | later is fine | 18:44 |
| sgclark | Riddell: krunner is ready for you, still odd dpend issue on pbuilder but not locally, if you could take a look whenever you have time. This finishes kf5 :) | 18:53 |
| Riddell | sgclark: awooga! | 18:58 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: kde-runtime uploaded | 19:29 |
| jmux | Riddell: Just opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/1290514. I hope there wll be some feedback from Qt Gerrit until tomorrow morning. | 19:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,New] | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | jmux: I've nominated it for Precise/Saucy/Trusty | 19:32 |
| jmux | shadeslayer: Thanks | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: kde-runtime done btw | 19:38 |
| ScottK | Ohh. I get that LO crash all the time. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | At least I think it's that one. | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | try out the patch and you'll know :D | 19:39 |
| jmux | ScottK: If you don't have a master or LO 4.2 build from today, it'll still crash. There are more errors in the KDE4 backend, but this Qt one is impossible to workaround from LO. | 19:42 |
| ScottK | jmux: Thanks. I'm glad to see someone working on making the KDE front end more reliable. | 19:42 |
| mitya57-mobile | shadeslayer: libjs-underscore is the package name | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57-mobile: but ScottK suggested a different one | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | libsphyinx or sth | 19:55 |
| mitya57-mobile | 315 probably includes symlinks | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | 315? | 19:55 |
| mitya57-mobile | No, libjs-sphinxdoc ships a symlink to a file in libjs-underscore | 19:56 |
| mitya57-mobile | <shadeslayer> 315 entries | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57-mobile: do you reckon upstream needs contacting asking them not to ship a copy ? | 19:57 |
| * shadeslayer is waiting for the install to finish | 19:57 | |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski) | 19:58 |
| mitya57-mobile | shadeslayer: Usually upstreams won't agree :) | 19:59 |
| mitya57-mobile | But if that file is minified and without source, then you need to create a DFSG tarball... | 19:59 |
| mitya57-mobile | In that case it will make sense to ask upstream to ship non-minified version. | 20:00 |
| * shadeslayer checks | 20:00 | |
| shadeslayer | not minified | 20:01 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: mitya57-mobile is right. | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57-mobile: but it's a older version | 20:01 |
| ScottK | That's the one I actually meant. | 20:01 |
| ScottK | mitya57-mobile is also right about needed to do a DFSG tarball to remove the minified and sourceless JS | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.debian.net/86982/ | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | that's the file in kate | 20:02 |
| ScottK | OK. Not minified. | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 20:02 |
| mitya57-mobile | Older? Does that matter? | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, 1.4.2 vs 1.4.4 in the archive | 20:03 |
| mitya57-mobile | In any case, filing a bug to BTS won't hurt. | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | cool, will do tomorrow | 20:03 |
| ScottK | Shouldn't matter. | 20:03 |
| * shadeslayer heads home | 20:03 | |
| mitya57-mobile | Err, we have 1.4.4 | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57-mobile: yes, and kate has 1.4.2 | 20:04 |
| ScottK | Yeah. It's kate that's older. | 20:04 |
| mitya57-mobile | Ah, no problems at all then. | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | Is there anything kubuntu needs before beta 2 i can help with? I'm out of stuff to do | 20:33 |
| Noskcaj | maybe the new kshutdown release with systemd/logind support? | 20:33 |
| miseria | "sueña en grande y mientras caminas en busca de tus sueños, disfruta las cosas pequeñas a la vera del camino" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* | 20:40 |
| TheDrums | shadeslayer, valorie: May want to ban *!*@CPEc8d3a35a59fe-CM000f9fa607d2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com it's a known spammer (see above.) | 20:46 |
| ScottK | Tm_T or jussi ^^^ | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 21:07 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 21:07 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: fyi you're op here :D | 21:08 |
| dougl | how do I manually set my ip in 14.04? | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | hopefully I did that right | 21:10 |
| dougl | if its a vote you got mine - lol | 21:10 |
| lordievader | dougl: People allways tell me I should use ip instead of ifconfig but: ifconfig eth0 up <ip-address> netmask <netmask> | 21:13 |
| TheDrums | shadeslayer: Yes, you did. | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | yay | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | that was the first time I banned someone :| | 21:13 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I know, but I can never remember how to do it. | 21:13 |
| dougl | thanks lordievader | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | !opguide > ScottK | 21:14 |
| ubottu | ScottK, please see my private message | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | now you do :D | 21:14 |
| TheDrums | shadeslayer: So now you have an ubottu PM. :P | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | TheDrums: yes | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | I think i Commented | 21:14 |
| TheDrums | It's alright, it'll PM you again in a week asking you to review, all the OPs know what miseria is. Thanks. | 21:15 |
| lordievader | dougl: After that you probably want to set a route to your gateway: route add default gw <gateway-ip> | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | dougl: btw user support in #kubuntu | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | well, #kubuntu doesn't have the ban | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | I think | 21:16 |
| TheDrums | (It's got it) | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | aha cool | 21:18 |
| * shadeslayer goes back into his cave, only to emerge tomorrow | 21:18 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Consider the odds I remember that a year from now the next time I care? | 21:19 |
| dougl | sorry | 21:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kde-runtime uploaded where? | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please consider quieting rather than banning next time | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | it's just so much more cruel xD | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta2/Kubuntu created, please add anything noteworthy we might have forgotten previously or new stuff (if any); also bumped the SC entry, needs description though | 22:16 |
| Riddell | lovely, thanks apachelogger | 22:16 |
| dougl | is it possible to manually set your ip address in 14.04? | 22:31 |
| dougl | beta 2? | 22:35 |
| dougl | beta1? | 22:36 |
| yofel | sure, either edit the connection settings in the NM Connection editor, or do it in interfaces like in the old times | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | (interfaces is not advised when nm is used I think | 22:42 |
| yofel | well, you shouldn't use it as long as NM can do the job. NM will ignore any interface that has settings in interfaces | 22:43 |
| yofel | (could we get interface briding support in NM?) | 22:45 |
| yofel | *bridging | 22:46 |
| dougl | yofel, is NM the little monitor connected to a cable in my system tray? | 23:04 |
| yofel | I think yes | 23:05 |
| dougl | and is my ip that I want it to be dhcp id? | 23:06 |
| dougl | yofel, ...and is my ip that I want it to be dhcp id? | 23:23 |
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