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ianorlinthat isn't quite nesecary for intel integrated graphics00:17
Meerkatianorlin, that laptop has AMD graphics00:21
n-iCeuhm00:39
n-iCeinstalled ubuntu00:39
n-iCeand the same00:39
n-iCeI don't see that additional drivers though00:39
Meerkatn-iCe, are you not using lubuntu?00:42
n-iCeI just installed ubuntu00:43
n-iCeI was using lubuntu00:43
Datz_Hi, I keep getting crashes everytime I try to install something.01:13
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DatzI think that unless something is being installed with the package manager, everything is fine.01:15
DatzI took a picture of the calltrace: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgq9m7czqbrap6c/2014-03-09%2016.43.46.jpg01:17
DatzI was thinking the kernel was crashing or something01:17
Datznot sure what to do.01:18
FuuqUmiisthow do you change the menu icon to say menu to make it more user friendly01:19
* Datz moves his question to #ubuntu01:25
FuuqUmiisthow do you hide the menu bar in gnome-mplayer to make more efficient use of space?01:50
FuuqUmiistLubuntu or Linux Mint XFCE? which do you think is more user friendly for people who don't know how to use computers and only have experience with Windows02:01
holsteinFuuqUmiist: mint is not supported here02:01
holsteinFuuqUmiist: both are free and easy to try for yourself on your hardware02:02
holsteinFuuqUmiist: most applications have a full screen mode.. but, i dont see any in gnome-mplayer02:03
holsteini see settings in the preferences menu for "interface".. but none to address removeing the menubar02:04
holsteinnothing about gnome-mplayer makes me want to use it over one of the more 'attractive' alternatives, if aesthetics were important02:04
FuuqUmiistholstein if you have launcher with icons in the panel how do you change the name of the icon when the mouse is over it02:11
holsteinFuuqUmiist: i would refer to the documentation for the launcher02:12
FuuqUmiistif i change the application name in the menu will it mess anything up?02:12
holsteinFuuqUmiist: it will change the name in the menu02:15
holsteini usually mess around with the UI and settings in a live CD or as another user.. to see the effects without breaking anything02:16
FuuqUmiistso do you know how to change the menu icon in the panel to say "menu" to make it more user friendly02:17
holsteinFuuqUmiist: when i right click on mine, i am faced with an option to edit the menu02:18
holsteinwhen i click on that, i can point to a custom icon location02:18
FuuqUmiistis there a standard custom "menu" icon that says menu?02:20
holsteinhttp://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#I_would_like_to_change_the_LXDE_icon_in_the_start_menu._How_do_I_do_it.3F02:20
holsteinFuuqUmiist: you can use *anything* you like02:20
holsteinyou can make your own.. grab anything from the internet02:21
holsteinhttp://www.qagoma.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0018/136017/menu_button.png for example02:21
holsteinor start.. or whatever the user expects02:22
holsteinor, just tell them02:22
FuuqUmiistyeah, but i don't have those images02:22
holsteinFuuqUmiist: what are you saying? friend? you dont have what images?02:23
holsteinFuuqUmiist: the one i linked? i google searched for "menu icon button" and found that and many others02:23
FuuqUmiistsomething that says "menu" or "start"02:23
holsteinFuuqUmiist: you can make your own, or get one from *anywhere*02:23
holsteinFuuqUmiist: i used google image search to find the one i linked above02:23
holsteinFuuqUmiist: there were several thousand that came up02:23
FuuqUmiistoh so i just save that and direct to it and it will resize everything naturally?02:24
holsteinFuuqUmiist: you can try it, and see.. and edit as needed02:24
FuuqUmiisti will copy the windows "start" icon :P02:24
holsteinFuuqUmiist: there are many windows themes02:24
holsteinbut, i find its not constructive to try and clone windows02:25
holsteinthere are many distros that are catering to cloing the windows UI02:25
FuuqUmiistbut it will be easier to help people who are not familiar with linux02:25
FuuqUmiisti can just tell them to go to the "start" menu02:25
holsteinFuuqUmiist: sure.. i just disgree with you02:25
holsteinFuuqUmiist: i think it will be easier to educate the new user with the new system02:26
holsteinFuuqUmiist: but, as i stated, there are many ways to do what you are trying to do.. many have already been done for you02:26
FuuqUmiistwhen is Lubuntu LTS going to be released?02:40
holstein!lts02:41
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)02:41
holsteinFuuqUmiist: 14.04 is planned to be AFAIK, the first LTS for lubuntu02:41
holsteinthough, the core is supported upstream02:41
holsteinFuuqUmiist: so.. april02:41
FuuqUmiisti wish it was this week02:42
holsteinFuuqUmiist: you can go and download it anytime you like02:42
FuuqUmiistthis should be a default theme option for Lubuntu http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Lubuntu+XP+three+flavors?content=16288003:25
Random832FuuqUmiist: no it shouldn't.03:39
FuuqUmiistwhy03:44
Unit1931. Why mimic Windows?  2. No GTK3 support.03:45
ianorlinI wouldn't want to use that at a linux conference03:45
FuuqUmiistmore people would be willing to use Lubuntu with that theme03:47
FuuqUmiistbtw, how much HDD space would you need for a new Lubuntu install?03:49
Unit193I had one in 10G, 5G free.03:51
ianorlin10G will work03:51
FuuqUmiistis it more lightweight to use flash or html5?04:26
ianorlinflash has problem on some old video cards not sure about html504:45
FuuqUmiisti know in the past flash in linux used a lot of CPU to play videos and stuff, but how about now? is Flash better than html5?04:46
ianorlinI think they both use a lot not sure of exact usage of both04:48
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guest0292Using Lubuntu 12.04 and 13.04.    When I install pulseaudio and pavucontrol,  it tells me pavucontrol can't access the /home/user1 folder, so I have to manually chown -R user1 /home/user1 to give pavucontrol access.09:12
guest0292Is this a bug in Lubuntu/Pulse/Pavucontrol,  or has my OS corrupted to cause this?09:13
guest0292alsamixer works fine without having to chown but pavucontrol requires me to chown /home/user1.  strange09:14
serranellushi everybody, I was trying to run the Lubuntu livecd but it does’t work because of a graphic problem. Maybe my bloody VIA Unichrome card is not supported. Is there a way to fix it and to run this livecd properly?09:26
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sailorcire_altHey, I for sent here from #suse. In LXDE control center, my icons are showing, but the text underneath them is gone. Any ideas on how to reset this?17:01
Meerkatsailorcire_alt, I am not familiar with a 'LXDE control center'. Where is it?18:15
ianorlinI think it isn't in recent versions of lubuntu18:17
ianorlinMeerkat what are you looking for?18:17
MeerkatI was trying to help the user above.18:18
ianorlinah thanks for helping out18:30
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pc-problemIs there a way I can lock the desktop icons in place, so they can't be moved by dragging them?19:23
pc-problemLubuntu 13.10 - LXDE - PCManFM19:23
sailorcire_altMeerkat should be under Launcher -> System -> LXDE Control Center.19:37
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