/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/10/#ubuntu-ops.txt

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basketballhey you should add dropbox to ubottu factoids01:22
basketballand have it say Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily.01:22
basketballand then how to install it01:22
rwwI don't think that comes up often enough to be worth it, and https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx is rather self-explanatory (linked from dropbox's front page)01:27
Unit193Just install nautilus-dropbox, that'll install the daemon.01:29
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ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (clone2 and Puritanick need to go)02:10
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k1l!test14:42
k1l!guidelines > kyfella14:45
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )14:50
k1lis it the bot, me or the network?14:52
AlanBellk1l: what is wrong?14:52
k1lok, its the network :)14:52
bazhangubottu lag14:53
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag14:53
bazhangnetwork14:53
k1lsome heavy delay in botmessages. but its some network fault14:53
phunyguyI have a lag.15:22
hggdhI have a lager15:57
k1l@mark #ubuntu nohazmony insulting in spanish16:00
ubottuThe operation succeeded.16:00
k1lhi cantstanya how can we help you?16:12
cantstanyaHi, ikonia, two things:16:12
cantstanyaCan you just ban me from the umbongo channel and get it over with. Muting me is just wrong and disrespectful.16:12
cantstanyaAnd do it right: "/mode #ubuntu +b *!*@unaffiliated/cantstanya". Last time they muted me by my nick (really stupid) and on that last ddos causing a shower of netsplits, I rejoined as my alt and moronic chanops thought I was evading. Seriously. How stupid.16:12
k1lcantstanya: if you dont want to be in the channels then take out the autojoin.16:13
cantstanyauh no?16:13
cantstanyaI don't want to be muted, but if I must be muted, just shun me instead.16:14
k1lwell, you could ask in here to remove the mute and show that you will follow the guidelines in future.16:15
k1lbut seeing how you behave right now i dont think that sticking to the guidelines is your intention at all16:16
cantstanyaWhile I am capable of adhering to whatever guidelines, whether or not I am/do is way too subjective to say for sure.16:17
phunyguy*nod*, but you can make an effort.16:17
cantstanyahi phunyguy16:17
phunyguyhi.16:17
cantstanyaWell I'm proposing a solution that's quite possibly in the best interest of everyone though.16:18
cantstanyacan't beat that, here we go again, me solving problems, taking names, and busting crime.16:18
phunyguyI am not sure I agree there.  It takes time for someone to set the ban, log the entries, etc, only for you to come back later and want it removed.16:19
cantstanyaNah, I doubt I'd want it removed. And it's just "/mode #ubuntu +b *!*@unaffiliated/cantstanya"16:19
phunyguywe are aware on how to set a ban.16:19
cantstanyaI made it SO simple to copypasta.16:20
cantstanyaI doubt that16:20
phunyguyHowever I am not an op in that channel.16:20
cantstanyaSee the example above.16:20
cantstanyaOf "idiots banning by nick".16:20
k1lcantstanya: again: just stay away from the channel if you dont want to be there16:20
phunyguyyou could always just not join the channel. Simple resolution.   Is there anything else we can help you with?16:20
k1lcantstanya: and insulting is not the way to go at all16:21
cantstanyak1l: I'm sorry but if chanops are banning by nick, and netsplits are occurring, then they immediately jump to the conclusion of "he evaded", that's stupid.16:21
k1lcantstanya: that is no reason to act as you did while the ban didnt work.16:22
cantstanyaHrm what I was banned for, in most situations, were the results of act of jealously really.16:22
cantstanyas/act/&s/16:22
cantstanyaBut that's neither here nor there.16:22
k1lcantstanya: we are not tryining to get a "most bans" highscore. so if you dont want to be in the channel just stay away. thats it16:22
cantstanyaLike I said, I would like not to be muted, but being muted feels disrespectful. Ergo, me asking for a outright ban.16:23
chuIt does in fact clog the system and we have to remove bans each month, so "in the best interest of everyone", if you don't like it, just stay away.16:24
cantstanyaSo mutes don't follow that same issue? preposterous.16:24
cantstanyaLying to my face isn't very becoming.16:25
chuWe don't mute as many people :)16:25
cantstanyaLet's see if that's indeed accurate.16:25
k1lcantstanya: since you dont want to stick to the guidelines just stay away. no need to make extra drama out of it.16:25
phunyguycantstanya: the mute issue is probably a misunderstanding.   Even myself, the mute is set to nick*!*@*, because they are generally temporary and due to someone timing out over and over for me.   So being accused of evading is probably part of the same misunderstanding.16:26
phunyguythe mute alias I have*16:26
phunyguyerr sorry, got aliases confused, I meant apste16:26
cantstanyaI believe it's pure ignorance, that's just my opinion.16:26
phunyguypaste*16:26
phunyguyfor flooding.16:26
cantstanyabut chu is right, there are much more bans than mutes.16:27
cantstanyasome of these bans are redundant too.16:27
cantstanyaI am laughing.16:27
phunyguybut yes, pure misunderstanding.   We can agree to disagree if you want, and if you want to be an op, you may apply.  We could always use the help.16:27
cantstanyaOh no, that's responsibility.16:28
cantstanyaI refrain from such things.16:28
phunyguythen please stop complaining and creating drama.16:28
phunyguybecause that clearly takes mroe effort.16:28
cantstanyaoh ikonia isn't even here :<16:29
cantstanyaI thought he was16:29
phunyguyyep, wasted effort.16:29
cantstanya;(16:29
cantstanyaoh well IdleOne http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-02-27/irc-support-sig.2014-02-27-18.00.log.html16:29
cantstanyafeel free to remove me, just as the chanops are too lazy to ban properly, I am too lazy to /part.16:29
cantstanyabye bye16:30
cantstanyanap time16:30
ubottuIn ubottu, basketball said: !dropbox is <reply>17:55
ubottuIn ubottu, basketball said: !dropbox is <reply> Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring all your photos, docs, and videos anywhere. After you install Dropbox on your computer, any file you save to your Dropbox will automatically save to all your computers, your Android device, and even the Dropbox website! With the Dropbox app, you can take everything that matters to you on the go. Download at dropbox.com/install17:58
basketballi sent my request of an added factoid to ubottu17:59
ubottuIn ubottu, basketball said: !dropbox is <reply> Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring all your photos, docs, and videos anywhere. After you install Dropbox on your computer, any file you save to your Dropbox will automatically save to all your computers, your Android device, and even the Dropbox website! With the Dropbox app, you can take everything that matters to you on the go. Download at dropbox.com/install18:18
Jordan_Ubasketball: I don't personally like advertising proprietary applications / services via ubottu. (And yes, that makes me already conflicted on Ubuntu One).18:21
basketballisnt ubuntu one though18:22
basketballand so i gimp18:22
phunyguyyeah that is one big ad.18:22
basketballdo you want me to shrink it down18:23
Jordan_Ubasketball: GIMP is Free software.18:23
phunyguyI thought only the server side of ubuntu one was proprietary/closed source?18:23
chuStill proprietary.18:24
Jordan_Uphunyguy: Indeed, it's a little better than dropbox in that respect, though I still would personally prefer that be opened.18:24
ubottuIn ubottu, basketball said: !dropbox is <reply> a cloud service for windows linux and apple which comes with 2 gb free see dropbox.com for more information18:24
basketballis that better18:24
Jordan_Ubasketball: "!dropbox is <reply> To install Dropbox in Ubuntu follow <link to trusted guide here>" would make me happier. Such a factoid should be used as a response to someone asking how to install Dropbox, i.e. not advertising the service, but instead just explaining how to install it in Ubuntu.18:27
ubottuIn ubottu, basketball said: !dropbox is <reply> To install Dropbox in Ubuntu follow https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=linux18:28
Jordan_Ubasketball: That page, while giving links to .deb files, has as the only explicit instructions downloading a tar.gz file and extracting it as "installation". That makes it a poor guide.18:32
basketballok i am signing the ubuntu code of conduct i will find a better one18:32
chuThanks basketball :)18:35
basketballfor what18:35
basketballi am following this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements18:36
phunyguyI thought it was in the repos already18:36
chuUpdating the dropbox factoid.18:36
phunyguynautilus-dropbox or something18:36
basketballchu:  how do i get a fingerprint for the code of conduct18:36
hggdhphunyguy: nautilus-dropbox is18:37
phunyguyso why is that not the recommended way?18:37
hggdhIDK. Capabilities, perhaps?18:38
phunyguylet me try it18:39
phunyguyyep, it is downloading dropbox from the site18:40
phunyguyThis probably won't be a useful factoid if it is a simple package install.  However I have not tried on 12.0418:40
phunyguy!info nautilus-dropbox precise18:42
ubottunautilus-dropbox (source: nautilus-dropbox): Dropbox integration for Nautilus. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.7.1-2 (precise), package size 91 kB, installed size 361 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:42
phunyguyyep.18:43
basketballwhat are the chances of being accepted as an op18:45
phunyguyIf they let me in, you may have a good shot.  :)18:45
phunyguybut seriously, I really don't know.  Have you read the requirements?18:46
basketballyea i am doing them now18:46
basketballi am signint the code of conduct18:46
basketballphunyguy:  it says to Apply to join the appropriate operator team(s) on Launchpad.   what is that for ubuntu18:47
phunyguyfind the ubuntu ops team launchpad page18:50
basketballis this it https://launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-ops-ops18:51
phunyguyno that is this channel18:51
phunyguytake off the second -ops18:51
IdleOnebasketball: Please part this channel, if you have any more questions about becoming an op in the ubuntu channels you can ask in #ubuntu-irc.19:01
Unit193!canibeanop19:02
ubottuIf you are interested in joining the Ubuntu IRC Team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements.  You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.19:02
basketballthanks k1l_19:02
basketballok IdleOne  peace19:03
rwwHow many legitimate users matching *!~ircap@* do we get in #ubuntu? It seems like there19:20
rww's a spam wave happening these days with that profile.19:20
rwwircap, as far as I can tell, is a non-English mIRC script thing, so I don't imagine too many...19:20
k1l_i banned *!*ircap@*rima-tde.net due to alot of spam from there19:21
DJonesrww: I checked yesterday when there was a lot of spam, and it was the only user from ircap20:09
PriceyHow does this spam manifest? I haven't been able to receive any of it.20:22
k1l_several users reporting independently20:25
PriceySpam to /msg ? Any obvious trigger or random?20:30
DJonesPricey: If its the one I think, Ban 60032 is a typical example, its pm spam, if you comment/reply to something in #u you get spammed with a webcam link to a .es website20:31
k1l_active users in #u. but seems to filter ops or cloaks. ircap as ident and spanish language spanish/southamerican ip20:33
DJonesPricey: The ban number I mentioned includes a copy of the spam20:34
Priceyk1l_: DJones: Thanks muchly, I see.20:34
phunyguythese spammers are pretty clever20:34
Jordan_Uk1l_: I recieved the spam, and I can op myself in #ubuntu (I assume you meant that it looks at the access list rather than people actively opped).20:42
k1l_again ircap@80.30.151.134 ?22:03
k1l_did we have a single user with ircap that didnt spam?22:03
IdleOnedon't know22:04
tewardcan an op ban Hal_Jay?  They just randomly are privmsging people advertisements22:51
tewardin #ubuntu22:51
JohnCalvinWill kim kardashian have sex with me?23:06
JohnCalvinPS: i am drunk23:06
ubottusomsip called the ops in #ubuntu (Hal_Jay (repeated spam))23:41
ubottumelt7777 called the ops in #ubuntu (Hal_Jay spam over and over, multiple channels)23:45

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