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Hornethi; having 'issues' installing grub on a server, namely, it won't install automatically and I can't see the wood for trees about how to install it manually00:52
Hornetdefault guess is /sda, which fails00:52
HornetI made a seperate boot partition, but that seems invisible to ash, although it messes with mount points so who really knows00:53
Hornetthis is 12.4 if it matters00:53
Hornetand yes I want to use 13.10, but it has a critical bug which prevents me00:53
RoyKit's 12.04 btw00:54
Hornetyes him00:54
sheptardHornet: so grub loads partially?00:55
Hornetit tries to install and fails00:55
Hornetit guesses /sda00:55
RoyKadd a /dev to that00:56
HornetI cannot see the boot partition in df -h so I have no idea what it did to it00:56
Hornetwell sda is in the raid anyway00:56
RoyKcheck /proc/partitions00:56
sheptardHornet: check fstab, sometimes /boot isn't mounted00:56
Hornetso it should be part of sde00:56
sheptardor yeah, /proc/partitions is better00:56
Hornethm, hang on00:56
Hornetthis is a computer in the other room to the bloody server00:56
sheptardand I think the command would be sudo grub-install /dev/sde00:56
Hornetso tennis ahoy00:56
Hornetsde has multiple partitions too, but hopefully yes00:57
Hornetsomething simple like that would be refreshing00:57
sheptardor alternatively, play musical sata ports until your disk ends up in the port for sda, instead of sde00:57
Hornetcan't, server doesn't allow that00:57
sheptardque00:57
RoyKdoesn't really matter the device name00:58
apb1963any bootp fanatics here?  And perhaps just maybe intimate with dhcpdump?  I'm seeing things I just don't understand.  Like... why is my system broadcasting bootp requests?   Why is it sending them to a private address?  How is it that I'm actually getting responses?  And why won't it stop?  Here's a capture file: http://fpaste.org/83863/41241313/00:58
apb1963ubuntu 12.0400:58
Hornetjesus this is mad01:09
Hornetlooks like sde1 is the right target01:10
Hornetbut can't mount it01:10
Hornetash won't see grub-install as a command01:10
Hornetnor apt-get01:10
Hornetso ....01:10
Hornetsheptard, disks have to stay where they are, there's only one physical location for a non-raid disk and it's in it01:11
Hornetsde* is all the non-raid stuff01:11
Hornetanybody? can't turn the server off until this is sorted01:14
Hornetand will be in a worse state than bare metal if I have to start again tomorrow01:15
Hornetafaict everything's set up other than grub01:15
apb1963Hornet: use fdisk -l to see your partitions01:21
Hornetapb1963: this is ash, not bash01:23
Hornetso no fdisk01:23
Hornetstuck at the last stage of installation01:24
apb1963fdisk isn't builtin to the shell01:24
Hornetapb1963: so can I use it another way?01:25
Hornetatm it doesn't work, I don't know the details of what ash can and can't do01:26
apb1963Hornet: I don't quite understand the question01:26
apb1963Hornet: You typed fdisk -l and it said... ?01:26
Hornetfdisk: not found01:26
Hornetthis isn't a live system, it's still in the installer01:26
Hornetit has ash and presumably some things01:27
Hornetseems grub-install isn't one of them though01:27
Hornetso quite how I can install this system I don't know01:27
apb1963so finish the install and then come back and install grub later01:27
Hornetit won't boot!01:27
apb1963why not?01:27
Hornetno grub?01:27
apb1963what happens?01:27
apb1963is there an error?01:28
HornetI strongly expect so01:28
Hornetif I restart and it breaks I lose hours of work01:28
apb1963You don't know?01:28
apb1963hmm01:28
HornetI can drive a car off of a cliff to see if it falls, yes01:28
HornetI dont know until I test it01:28
Hornetbut I have a very good idea01:28
apb1963I'm pretty sure grub isn't required to boot01:29
apb1963let me take a quick look...01:29
Hornetthis is a raid system01:29
Hornetsingle OS, tbf01:29
Hornetfs01:31
Hornetin other room now01:31
Hornetlaptop didn't like that at all01:31
Hornetand nor did the people leeching from the torrents on the external hdd01:31
Hornetoh well01:31
Hornetthey can get their lain later01:31
apb1963what does ls -l /dev/mapper say?01:32
Hornetcontrol iirc01:33
Hornetone sec01:33
Hornetthis is mdadm raid, not bios or fakeraid01:33
apb1963what kind of raid are you doing?  bios? software? fake?01:33
apb1963ok01:33
Hornetcrw----- 1 root root01:34
Hornetmdstat's at 16%, to give you an idea of how long this has been set up01:34
Hornetand this is a 6tb raid 6 array01:35
Hornetnone of the ubu server docs mention grub within the context of raid01:35
apb1963Hornet: suggest reading all the way through this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43036/how-do-i-install-grub-on-a-raid-system-installation01:35
Hornetyet that's a surefire breakage01:35
HornetI've googled it too, yes :\01:36
Hornetthat's a different raid setup aiui01:36
Hornetthing is I have a partition that was meant to be used for /boot, but can't mount or select it01:37
Hornetat the point where I may as well restart it and see what smokes01:38
Hornetand repair if I can from a live usb stick with something that resembles a real os01:38
Hornetotherwise start again tomorrow01:38
Hornetfs01:38
apb1963The gist of it that I got from a quick skim was you need to create a small ( 1 mb ) partition flagged as bios_boot to install grub on GPT01:38
Hornetthe installer did something like that automatically01:40
Hornetbut seems not to have flagged it?01:40
Hornetbasically it's halfarsed it and left me high & dry01:40
Hornetwonder if I should start again without grub01:41
Hornetraid even01:41
Hornetthen create manually later01:41
Hornetmore trouble than it's worth01:41
Hornetridiculous system01:41
apb1963things are always a mystery until you know the answer :)01:41
Hornetwell, ash won't let me install grub01:41
Hornetso that's basically a golden 'screw you' surely01:42
Hornetit's now saying I'll have to boot manually passing parameters01:42
Hornetso here comes that cliff01:43
Hornetsigh01:43
Hornetrestarting01:44
GeekDudedarthanubis: Hey. I reformatted (don't ask), and installed xubuntu server. I can mount drives, and am generally pleased with it. I swapped out firefox for midori and removed gimp, but other than that it's pretty nice01:45
Hornetnothing there01:45
Hornetwonderful01:45
Hornetblack screen, no dhcp allocated01:45
Hornetdead box01:45
Hornettold you01:45
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darthanubisGeekDude, glad it worked out01:45
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HornetLOL01:47
Hornetfuck me01:47
Hornetthe stick I was planning to use to recover it, seems to be 13.1001:47
HornetAKA usb keyboards die01:47
Hornetwhich is all I have to use01:47
apb1963!nomodeset01:47
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:47
Hornetjesus01:47
Hornetit would have been on the network01:49
apb1963I was going to ask if you had gdisk or gparted... but I guess I took too long :/01:49
Hornetno, it's the installer01:49
Hornetgnome anything is unusable01:49
Hornetso now I'll have to start all over again without raid I think01:49
Hornetand toast all my partitions01:50
Hornetlast chance, will see if the 12.4 installer has a usable recovery anything01:50
apb1963gdisk has nothing to do with gnome01:51
Hornethm, what am I thinking of then01:51
Hornetanyway, sod all was available01:51
Hornetso I highly doubt it01:51
apb1963nor does gparted for that matter01:52
Hornetin rescue mode now01:52
Hornetneed laptop charger, brb01:52
apb1963you could have also tried cfdisk01:52
apb1963which is curses based01:53
apb1963did you try nomodeset?01:54
Hornetwell, in rescue mode atm01:54
HornetI had no opportunity to do anything01:54
Hornetboots to nothing01:54
apb1963!nomodeset | hornet01:54
ubottuhornet: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:54
Hornetnot on network either01:54
Hornethow could I add a kernel parameter without grub or seeing what I'm doing?01:55
apb1963well, that is in fact a good question01:55
apb1963the truth is out there01:56
Hornetanyway, rescue mode can't assemble the raid01:56
Hornettl:dr; all fucked, abort abort abort01:57
Hornetwill restart from bare metal without raid01:57
apb1963don't know if you know it, but there's also a #ubuntu which is more active at the moment... maybe someone there can help01:57
Hornetit's too active01:57
Hornetit's drowned in noise01:57
apb1963just add to the noise... if someone sees your question... they'll try to help01:57
Hornetthanks for the assistance though, is much appreciated01:57
Hornetheh01:57
apb1963sorry I didn't know the answer... lots of info out there... but it does take quite a bit of sifting.01:58
Hornetapb1963: np, thanks all the same, and partly that's the problem02:05
Hornetso many similar problems with inapplicable solutions02:05
Hornetthat give partial anecdote-based answers02:05
Hornetubuntu rescue mode is messing around atm02:06
Hornetjust as well I have nothing to lose, in theory02:06
Hornetotherwise I'd be concerned02:06
Hornetgiven my luck it'll blow the bloody fusebox nexyt02:06
Hornet-y02:06
apb1963yeah... unfortunately this whole OS is a bit of trial & error.... no two systems are exactly alike.  Different combinations of hardware & software... lots of choices leads to a tower of babble.    I've got my own frustrations :/02:07
HornetI'd be happier if I were able to use a newer version02:09
Hornet2 year old software isn't great02:09
Hornet13.04 has a critical bug though, so I can't do anything with it02:09
Hornet12.10 would mean two upgrade hops and is too old for support anyway02:10
Hornetso weirdly, 12.04 is the only option02:10
apb1963Yeah, 12.04 is LTS "can't go wrong" with that solution.02:10
apb1963You have a choice of "stability" vs. latest & greatest features with all the bugs included.  It's a tradeoff.02:11
apb1963I went with stability.  Not sure I'm happy about it.02:11
Hornetthis is why I can't use debian any more02:12
Hornetsolid yes, but by the time you use anything it's basically half a decade old02:12
Hornetonly other OS I could consider is fedora02:13
apb1963yeah, I hear ya.02:13
Hornetadmittedly a lot better than it was02:13
Hornetbut still, hardly my first port of call02:13
apb1963Sorry but... I have a phone call to deal with.. wish you luck bud02:13
Hornetnp, thanks again02:13
* apb1963 exits stage left02:14
Hornet'rescue mode' seems to be 'install everything again' mode02:14
Hornetoh well02:14
* Hornet ankis02:15
Hornetokay this is mad02:45
Hornetwhen I reboot it with the usb stick it, it seems to work as it should, but I can't log in02:45
Hornetwithout it, it doesn't seem to do anything02:45
Hornetusb stick is just the unetbootin installer for 12.0402:45
Hornetwonder if it's somehow installed grub on the usb stick02:46
Hornetthis is mad02:46
Hornetright so, it seems that when I install ubuntu server, it latches onto the usb stick and sticks grub on there04:07
Hornetmanual reinstallation of grub fails04:07
Hornetlooks like it works, fstab looks fine too, but it doesn't04:08
Hornetseems my device names shuffle about sometimes04:08
jamespagerbasak, hey - what did you think about my virtual-mysql-* email?08:52
rbasakjamespage: I've been mulling over it.09:03
rbasakjamespage: it sounds good to me, but I'm not sure it's enough. What bothers me is the postrm.09:03
rbasakjamespage: AIUI, as long as we have a postrm, there are two separate sources of truth about who owns what, and this seems suboptimal to me. This is limited to my understanding though. I had to refer to the policy manual.09:04
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lordievaderGood morning.10:00
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noobb2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221029410:46
jamespagerbasak, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5/+bug/129033112:05
jamespageurgh12:05
rbasakjamespage: any opinions on how to fix that?12:07
jamespagerbasak, thinking about it now12:08
rbasakjamespage: it seems like a really fundamental question to me. AFAICS, it doesn't make sense for the alternatives to share the same config file path.12:08
rbasakPerhaps we need to hack something together for Trusty though.12:09
jamespagerbasak, I didn't pick this up in testing because I'm using a charm which writes the entire my.cnf before installing anything12:09
jamespagerbasak, I was just testing the virtual-* stuff and noticed this...12:10
* jamespage sighs12:10
rbasakWell, that's it. Charms can handle this. I don't think it makes sense for packaging to magically handle switching out of alternatives but maintaining the same DB and config directories.12:10
rbasakThat makes the assumption that they won't diverge, but being forks, clearly they will.12:11
jamespagerbasak, I was thinking we could switch out that bit into a conf.d snippet for mysql-5.5 + others12:16
jamespagebut on a switch in/out that file would not be removed as its config right?12:16
rbasakjamespage: I think that would be a problem, yes. Since we permit packages to be removed but not purged, and configuration files remain in that state, yet we expect a swap-out to work in that case.12:18
jamespagerbasak, I guess the alternative is to ship with pxc disabled by default12:22
jamespagewith a README12:22
jamespagelooking at the maintainer script this should be OK12:22
rbasakjamespage: I can't think of a better option right now.12:26
jamespagerbasak, not sure that will work - the maintainer script want to use mysql directly if offline to manipulate the database12:36
jamespagethat fails as well...12:36
jamespagerbasak, maybe patching pxc to ignore those values might work12:42
* jamespage looks12:42
jamespagerbasak, going to think about it more over lunch12:51
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tomixxx3hi, my ubuntu 12.04.4 lts run for several days, today i looked at it and it prints me the following command line error: "ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4090000 active 0xe frozen. ata1: irq_stat 0x00400040, connection status changed, ata1: SError: { PHYRdyChg10B8B DevExch }13:35
tomixxx3however, after hitting "enter" the system still react and i can execute commands13:35
tomixxx3what is a good energy saving program on ubuntu server 12.04.04? because i dont want ubuntu to allow to go into energy save mode, because it should always run13:43
jamespagerbasak, I'm a dulderhead13:54
jamespage/etc/mysql/conf.d/pxc.cnf (set query_cache_* to 0)13:55
jamespage#OK13:55
Walex2tomixxx3: a "program" consumes energy :-)14:04
Walex2tomixxx3: what you want is a power saving configurators. The default powersaving modules in Ubuntu seem more or less reasonablke.14:04
Walex2tomixxx3: as to that ATA error that is a hw error in th bus to the disk. That it worked still means that the bus to the disk was reset and that worked.14:05
tomixxx3walex2: i have already installed "caffeine"14:05
tomixxx3Walex2: kk14:06
rbasakjamespage: will mysql-5.5 (for example) pick that up? What if you install percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, then remove it and install mysql-server.5.5?14:06
jamespagerbasak, its remaings14:07
rbasakjamespage: so still broken but less broken?14:07
jamespagerbasak, the pxc config is valid for mysql-5.5 - its just not the normal defaults14:08
jamespagerbasak, yes - less broken14:08
Walex2tomixxx3: the error may be just a random thing, or it may be a symptom of a failirg disk.14:08
jamespagerbasak, I'm seeing this as the least worst option right now14:08
rbasakjamespage: agreed14:08
Walex2tomixxx3: for power management, look at packages 'powermanagement-interface' and 'pm-utils'.14:08
Walex2tomixxx3: I have written my own script BTW here: http://sabi.co.uk/#almostSources14:09
tomixxx3walex2: i need a mechanism, so that my ubuntu server 12.04.4 together with a deployed OS-GUI do NOT change to any kind of power saving mode.14:12
gaughenjamespage, rbasak, smoser - just wanted to make sure you all had reviewed the vUDS schedule.  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/track/servercloud/14:19
jamespagegaughen, I just scanned through yes14:19
smosergaughen, looks reaasonable.14:20
smosersortiing is funy.14:21
smoseroh. no its not.14:21
moparisthebestanyone know what badblocks output means, there are 3 numbers before errors, like so:14:22
moparisthebest17.21% done, 33:10 elapsed. (0/83943044/0 errors)14:22
moparisthebestwhat do those 3 numbers represent? (I'm assuming regardless this drive is dead :))14:23
geniiIf someone could clarify... can procmail work on outgoing or only incoming?14:37
mardraumprocmail is for delivery14:41
geniimardraum: OK thanks.14:42
mardraumgenerally you handoff delivery to procmail14:42
mardraumif you need it for something, that is14:42
genii We want to fetch GPG keys for recipients and add them to our local database the first time they are sent something ( or we receive something from them). For incoming procmail works fine for this, outgoing seems to be another matter.14:43
mardraumsounds like fun14:43
mardraumwhich MTA?14:43
geniiPostfix14:43
mardraumsurprised nobody has done it before with postfix :P14:44
geniiYes, it seems odd that nothing simple like procmail but for outgoing seems to be around. I looked at altermime but it seems more for rewriting/appending than for calling some arbitrary script14:46
geniiI wonder how stuff like ClamAV do it14:47
andolgenii: Using procmail to filter outgoing mail sounds like something which is possible, but non-trivial.14:49
jrwrenthey likely have.14:51
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ws2k3__Hello, i have an question, i have 2 servers doing the same thing have the same stats the server on ubuntu 11.04 has a load of 0,05 and the ubuntu 12.04 has a load of 1.50, is there changed something in the load mesure?14:51
andolgenii: Writing something custom, and use milter to hook it in?14:52
geniiHm.14:53
andolFor postfix that would be smtpd_milters/non_smtpd_milters14:55
jdo_dkI have an ubuntu server, where postfix maillog ends into syslog. System is running rsyslog and ubuntu 13.1014:55
geniiandol: Thanks for the tip, looking into it now14:56
andoljdo_dk: See /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf14:57
jdo_dkandol: mail.*                          -/var/log/mail.log14:58
slowconhey guys, just installed ubuntu server 12.04 and installed desktop. does anyone ever get any kickbacks where ubuntu just throws you back to the login screen. ubuntu software center will close automatically as well after 30s of being opened14:59
jrwrengenii: what specifically would you do on outgoing?14:59
Walex2slowcon: that looks like some hardware issue causing the X windows to crash and/or applications to crash.15:05
geniijrwren: Grab the recipient address, then basically: look for keys.domain.tld or keyserver.domain.tld and if found, fetch the recipients public key from there. If not found there, fall back to public keyservers in order of pgp.mit.edu then keyserver1.pgp.com and keyserver2.pgp.com ( with ldapsearch). If a result is found, add it to the local ldap databse under recipients so that it could be looked up locally15:06
Walex2slowcon: the hardware issues could be as simple as insufficient RAm triggering the OOM killer15:06
Walex2slowcon: or it could be an issue with the graphics chip driver being buggy.15:06
jrwrengenii: so you want to do this action on every email which traverses your email server?15:07
Walex2ws2k3__: probably the measure has not changed, but most likely there are subtle differences in the daemons running.15:07
geniijrwren: At least on first time they are used, yes. And of course not for local-local because these are already in the database15:08
jrwrengenii: i agree with the milter suggestion.15:11
jrwrengenii: sorry for no more help than that15:11
ws2k3__Walex2 well what i see is that the rest of the value's in top are the same the %us and %sy are Exacly the same15:14
ws2k3__and it looks like the one server is not more the bizzy then the other the value's is just a bit higher15:15
* genii goes back to investigating15:17
tomixxx3hi, it seems i cannot use environment-variables like "export OS_USERNAME=blabla" on my ubuntu deployment (12.04.04)15:39
tomixxx3because whenever i try to execute commands which should use these variables, i get a response indicating that OS_USERNAME for example is missing15:40
pmatulis3tomixxx3: pastebin all the exact details.  commands and output15:40
tomixxx3command is "keystone token-get" vs "keystone --os-username=admin --os-password=ADMIN_PASS --os-auth-url=http://controller:35357/v2.0 token-get"15:42
pmatulis3tomixxx3: that's a big jump from your earlier comment.  simplify things to convince yourself you have the basics working15:44
tomixxx3pmatulis: content of openrc.sh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7068279/15:44
pmatulis3tomixxx3: but it sounds like a openstack/keystone problem and not a ubuntu server problem15:44
tomixxx3pmatulis3: kk, ty15:45
jrwrentomixxx3: did you source openrc.sh or are you running it?15:46
tomixxx3jrwren: yes, i have executed "source openrc.sh"15:46
jrwrentomixxx3: ok.15:46
jamespagecoreycb, if you fancy something to hack on whilst at your sprint:15:51
jamespagehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keystone/+bug/129042315:51
Walex2ws2k3__: very small differences can give slightly different load averages as they are rounded...15:54
coreycbjamespage, thanks I'll take a look15:54
coreycbjamespage, I need someone to review my "fix" for 128834415:55
jamespagecoreycb, merge proposal?15:55
coreycbjamespage, yes, , for keystone15:55
jamespagecoreycb, keystone charm - for bug 128834415:56
jamespageyes15:56
coreycbjamespage, that's right15:56
jamespagecoreycb, ok - once you have something up ping me and I'll review15:57
coreycbjamespage, thanks15:57
coreycbjamespage, it's up at https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/charms/precise/keystone/trunk/+activereviews16:01
jamespagecoreycb, looks ok16:02
jamespage+116:02
coreycbjamespage, ok wasn't sure if that was the right approach. but it's done elsewhere.   thanks.16:02
jamespagecoreycb, ivoks and I redux'ed that charm completely week before last - but that work has not landed yet so your change is appropriate.16:04
jamespagecoreycb, the right way would be to have a post-start section in the upstart config that could tell when keystone was ready16:05
coreycbjamespage, excellent that's good to know16:06
geniiHm, looks like it may be possible to do outbound filtering with header_checks16:21
* genii goes back to reading16:21
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smoserjrwren, your cloud-init change is in -proposed now16:33
smoserhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2014-March/021465.html16:33
jrwrenthanks.16:34
jamespagehallyn, congrats btw16:34
hallynthanks :)16:35
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rbasakjamespage: do we need to remove src:samba4 from universe? It hasn't had an upload in Trusty, and src:samba seems to have overtaken it.17:38
jamespagerbasak, good spot - yes17:38
rbasakLooks like it has been removed from sid/jessie17:39
rbasakI'll file a bug.17:39
* rbasak has filed bug 129044817:42
rbasakhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/129044817:42
* rbasak wonders where the bot went. MIA?17:42
rbasaksoren: do you still run the bot (I think it was you?)17:43
rbasakOr was that just the new bug filed bot?17:43
* rbasak shrugs17:43
tarvidUbuntu 13.04 do-release-upgrade -d17:47
tarvidChecking for a new Ubuntu release17:47
tarvidNo new release found17:47
RoyKhuh?17:47
tarvidcan't do-release-upgrade from 13.0417:48
RoyKwhat does /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades have to say about Prompt?17:48
ogra_most likely bcause you cant go from 13.04 to 14.04 straight ...17:48
tarvidcan't get to 13.10 either17:49
ogra_and 13.10 (your actual upgrade option) is not a devel release17:49
tarvidPrompt=normal17:49
tarvidso how do I so a sim[ple upgrade to 13.1017:50
ogra_just do-release-upgrade doesnt work ?17:50
ogra_(no -d or any other option)17:50
tarviddo-release-upgrade17:50
tarvidChecking for a new Ubuntu release17:50
tarvidNo new release found17:50
RoyKtarvid: did you check that file?17:51
RoyK/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades17:51
RoyKah17:51
RoyKyes17:51
RoyKsorry17:51
RoyKwierd17:51
RoyKtarvid: what does lsb_release -a tell you?17:51
tarvidroot@horace:/etc/apt# lsb_release -a17:52
tarvidNo LSB modules are available.17:52
tarvidDistributor ID:Ubuntu17:52
tarvidDescription:Ubuntu 13.0417:52
tarvidRelease:13.0417:52
tarvidCodename:raring17:52
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ogra_are you sure your system is up to date with all updates and security updates ?17:54
tarvidthat doesn't work either17:55
ogra_that doesnt sound like an issue with update-manager then though17:55
RoyK!pastebin | tarvid17:56
ogra_you always need to apply all updates first before running do-release-update ...17:56
ubottutarvid: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:56
tarvidprettry lame for a 3 line post17:56
RoyK617:58
tarvidmy dns server screwed up18:01
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howudodatam having a very unusual problem.  installed ubuntu server, two nics: em1 wired ethernet, default route.  wlan0 wireless.  em1 is responding with its MAC for arp requests for wlan0.  I have no bridge configed, nor proxy arp as far as I can tell.  em1=192.168.1.4/24 and wlan0=192.168.1.3/24 pastebin config http://pastebin.com/bEiwGGrE19:44
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ballDoes Ubuntu work nicely on a Lenovo ThinkServer RD340?20:42
RoyKball: no idea - try20:44
ballRoyK: I'll have to buy one ;-)20:44
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ianwardDoes anyone know when us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com stopped going through S3?  I read it started using S3 here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud-announce/2012-June/000026.html but it looks like it no longer uses S3 directly.21:26
sarnoldianward: recently, a few weeks ago21:27
ianwardsarnold: is there somewhere i can read more about this?21:27
sarnoldianward: I'm not sure what the root cuase of the errors were, but the s3-based mirrors were unreliable and appeared to randomly deny pacakge downloads.21:27
sarnoldianward: sorry, no url handy, I read it on irc [tm]  :)21:28
ianwardsarnold: ok, thanks21:29
sarnoldugh, the irc logs are organized by date and then channel...21:30
sarnoldianward: sorry, I'm not finding the references again. :( I believe I got the impression that the mirrors would be back "soon".21:32
ianwardsarnold: ok, thanks for checking. good to know21:32
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gQuigsjamespage:  thoughts on the networking blueprint?  or discussion?  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2014-March/014877.html22:51
gQuigsit would still need approval22:51
gQuigs^open to any track leads, btw22:52
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