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popeywhich means you only get "promoted" images - that is - tested00:00
popeyif you go for devel-proposed you may well get an image which is broken now and then00:00
n-iCeoh ok00:00
popeyworth subscribing to the ubuntu-phone mailing list, didier sends out updates about which images are good/bad00:00
n-iCeso as my first time I should use devel?00:00
popeyevery day00:00
n-iCe2014/03/09 18:01:22 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...00:01
n-iCe2014/03/09 18:01:22 exit status 25500:01
n-iCeI am getting that00:01
popeywhat device?00:01
n-iCenexus400:01
surgemcgeeI am gonna make a Spin ball game using the Ubuntu Logo as a pinwheel to reflect balls out of the screen. It may serve as a nice promo piece and a fun game if the screen is not too small, we'll see..00:02
surgemcgeeIs that Ok?00:02
aquariussurgemcgee, sure it is. You can make whatever apps you want :)00:03
popeysurgemcgee: you can ping the trademarks people, but I doub't it's a problem00:03
surgemcgeecool, cool00:03
surgemcgeeWhat channel is the trademark people?00:04
n-iCepopey: would you use devel then?00:04
n-iCewhat's saucy trusty and devel?00:04
n-iCewhat does that mean00:04
aquariussurgemcgee, http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-rights-policy/contact-us00:05
aquariusalthough I really don't think there'll be a problem :)00:06
n-iCe2014/03/09 18:05:47 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting00:07
n-iCeand nothing is happening in my phone00:07
popeyn-iCe: i use both00:07
popey(I have two Nexus 4s)00:08
popeyn-iCe: what state is the phone in right now? (It should be in bootloader - press power + voldown from off)00:08
n-iCedone rebooted manually00:12
n-iCekthanks popey00:13
n-iCeso dialy I should go and update?00:13
n-iCehow do I go back if an image is broken?00:13
popeyreflash with ubuntu-device-image00:16
n-iCeoh00:16
n-iCebut no way to do it without a pc?00:16
n-iCeOk I have Ubuntu phone OS now running in my device :)00:17
popeyn-iCe: yeah, you can do it in the terminal on the device00:18
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Further_Examples00:18
popeysystem-image-cli is the command line tool on the device00:18
n-iCewhere do I install apps00:19
n-iCecan't find00:19
r3pwnWhere do I go to download the source for the 4.4.2 phablet-trusty branch?00:19
popeyn-iCe: go to settings -> accounts, sign in to an ubuntu one account00:20
popeythen new apps will show up in the dash00:20
r3pwnn-iCe: There isn't an app store, but once you enable wifi, all installable apps will be shown under Suggested apps on the Applications tab of the home screen00:20
n-iCethanks00:39
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dholbachgood morning07:20
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group1hi07:33
nhainesgroup1: hi07:34
group1hi07:34
OliTouchHi, I just installed ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus, but it's not connect my carrier. How do i solve that?08:41
Saviqis no WiFi (as in the device doesn't seem to be there) on mako with latest image a known issue?08:58
Saviqhmm it's back after a reboot08:59
ogra_Saviq, i only run 228 here (pre-last) but there were no changes in 229 apart from a new clock app08:59
ogra_and it works fine here09:00
Saviqogra_, yeah, back after a reboot, will report back if I encounter it again (I did see some kernel fail in dmesg before rebooting, maybe related)09:00
ogra_smells like, yeah09:01
popeySaviq: ogra_ i see no wifi after flashing on #229  on mako too09:15
popeyhowever it is actually connected09:15
popey64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=93.7 ms09:15
popeywlan0      802-11-wireless   connected09:15
* popey files bug09:16
ogra_funny, we didnt have any significany changes since 22709:17
ogra_hmm, there seems to be an lxc change to support wlan devices09:19
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day of Awesomeness! :-D09:19
popeyogra_: Saviq bug 129027509:21
ubot5bug 1290275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Network indicator shows no networks, but network is connected mako #229" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129027509:21
Saviqpopey, mine was different - nm-tool didn't even show the device...09:21
popeyooh09:22
sridhar_how to find html5 ubuntu apis09:51
sridhar_anybody there???09:54
ogra_sridhar_, try develope.ubuntu.com (and also the #ubuntu-app-devel channel)09:54
ogra_oops09:54
ogra_*developer.ubuntu.com09:54
sridhar_but its slow low on docs developer.ubuntu.com10:00
sridhar_how to check the sdk version installed10:00
sridhar_anyone knows to check the ubunu sdk version installed ????10:00
ogra_sridhar_, as i said above, the #ubuntu-app-devel channel is probably the better place to ask10:02
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davmor2Morning all11:00
t1mpwhere are images downloaded by ubuntu-device-flash stored?11:21
t1mpI used to have ~/Download/phablet-flash (or something like that) where phablet-flash stored its files11:21
didrockst1mp: ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/ is what appears in the trace when you are flashing it.11:24
t1mpdidrocks: that seems tricky. I always deleted the images manually after the directory got too big and when it is "hidden" it can start to fill people's disks space11:39
didrockst1mp: time to open a bug for sergio I guess :)11:39
popeybug 115771011:40
ubot5bug 1157710 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash needs a cleanup option to remove old images" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115771011:40
popey11:40
popeyThat'll be a year old in a week or so11:40
t1mppopey: you are so much ahead of us :)11:42
ogra_luckily phablet-flash is deprecated since months :)11:42
t1mppopey: but now that the directory is hidden, I think the importance became higher than "Wishlist"11:42
popeythe same issue is apparent in udf11:42
popey+111:42
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/115771011:43
ogra_popey, so someone should open a task for it on that bug11:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1157710 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash needs a cleanup option to remove old images" [Wishlist,In progress]11:43
popeythere we go11:43
ogra_thanks11:44
popeynp11:44
ogra_i doubt sergio looks at old phablet-flash bugs11:44
ogra_it is dead and buried11:44
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davmor2ogra_: depends does it do the same thing with the new tool?12:41
davmor2ogra_: I certainly see 5 for mako, 2 for manta and 3 for flo12:43
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Corvus_Hi everybody12:53
Corvus_Someone here that can help my in some porting?12:54
davmor2Corvus_: you are best of talking about the issues you are having rather than as generally as that.  p.s. don't look at me for it either :)12:57
Corvus_sorry for the delay, was doing some testing12:58
Corvus_ok, lets start12:58
Corvus_i have experience porting android and FFOS12:58
Corvus_i have a mobile phone with and x86 processor12:59
Corvus_similar to Lenovo K90012:59
Corvus_i have all sources12:59
Corvus_It's not ported to cm, it's all aosp, but i patched de aosp build, and it finish building13:00
Corvus_Mi problem is not that it tries to boot, but it stalls in spash screen13:00
Corvus_i try to connect with adb and adb devices said me that is offline (with a serial number)13:01
Corvus_so i dont have adb :(13:01
Corvus_i try to get some logs from /proc/last_kmsg but i to enter recovery mode i need to use a fastboot menu, so the last_kmsg is from this fastboot boot and i dont have any way to enter to recovery directly :(13:03
Corvus_Like i said i have experience with android and FFOS, but i dont have it with touch,13:03
Corvus_i just know that there is two ways of booting with flipped or legacy13:04
Corvus_I try too to get some kernel booting in  the scren but without success13:05
Corvus_any way that i can get logs to see what is happening or more info of how this works (links or anything that i can follow)13:06
Corvus_=13:06
Corvus_?13:06
Corvus_maybe a problem with cmdline? is root needed for touch to work?13:08
Corvus_i'm using legacy mode with chroot in /data/ubuntu,13:08
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Tassadarrsalveti: hi, the mobile data work on the deb build14:12
Tassadar(according to at least two people on XDA)14:12
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sridhar_what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ???14:31
sridhar_plz help14:32
sridhar_what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ???14:33
sridhar_what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ???14:35
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cwayneplars: ping14:54
plarscwayne: hi14:54
cwayneplars: so i did a phablet-test-run on the customized image about 5 times, and can't reproduce the hang at all14:55
plarscwayne: strange - didn't you say on friday that you were seeing why it was hanging?14:55
cwayneno, i said i saw a lot of failures, but not hangs14:56
plarscwayne: we see it with pretty much every single run on the custom image, but nowhere else14:57
plarscwayne: bzoltan maybe has some idea why the test is getting stuck? ( http://q-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/trusty-touch_custom-mako-smoke-daily/62/consoleFull - search for "testing ubuntuuitoolkit" )14:59
nik90pmcgowan: ping15:03
pmcgowanhey nik9015:03
nik90pmcgowan: hey, can you check if you can reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283212 in the latest #228 or @229 image?15:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1283212 in Ubuntu Clock App "Unable to edit single type alarms and update them" [High,Confirmed]15:03
nik90I think 229 is latest..anyways you should know15:03
pmcgowannik90, sure will check it15:03
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cwayneplars: seems to fail here: 07:37:36.114 INFO globals:58 - Starting test ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.test_emulators.QQuickListViewTestCase.test_click_element_outside_view_below15:11
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dholbachogra_, sergiusens, are maguro images still built (and published elsewhere) or did we stop entirely?15:31
ogra_dholbach, i think we are still rolling the dailies (trusty-proposed), but we dont promote any of these to the trusty channel15:31
ogra_so for people on the trsuty channel 188 (or so) is the last image15:32
DJJeff  /dev/loop0 on / type ext2 (ro,relatime,errors=continue)15:33
DJJeffon my nexus 715:33
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DJJeff# mount -o remount, rw /15:34
DJJefffixed apt-get update errors15:34
cwayneDJJeff: that's by design, updating is done by OTA updates, not apt-get15:37
rsalvetiTassadar: great!15:40
Tassadarare you gonna add it to s-i.ubuntu.com?15:40
rsalvetiTassadar: yup, once the patches are reviewed I'll do another android upload enabling the additional target15:41
rsalvetisergiusens: ^^ seems the deb patches are fine15:42
ogra_well we wont add it to s-i15:43
ogra_but to cdimage we can :)15:43
DJJeffthe screen would not even turn on until I mounted as RW thats odd15:43
rsalvetiogra_: why not to s-i?15:44
ogra_rsalveti, dunno, same reason as hammerhead i think15:44
rsalvetiogra_: and what is the reason?15:44
ogra_we dont officially support it15:45
rsalvetiwell, we have grouper there :-)15:45
ogra_which i dont know why :)15:45
rsalvetias we only officially supporting flashing devices using system-image, this sounds a bit weird15:45
ogra_i thought only supported images go to s-i15:45
ogra_for other images it costs us nothing to produce cdimage img files, s-i imports cost time though15:46
ogra_(additional ones)15:46
rsalvetisure, but don't remember when we decided to do this15:46
ogra_we didnt15:46
ogra_asac did :)15:47
rsalvetiright, don't remember about that either15:47
DJJeffubuntu touch is still far from stable15:47
rsalvetibut anyway, community can still enable their own server I guess15:47
DJJeff*sigh*15:47
TassadarI have the images on s-i.tasemnice.eu already15:47
ogra_he only wanted official arches on s-i15:47
rsalvetiogra_: then we should drop grouper15:47
ogra_if thats not the case anymore i'm happy to have it15:48
ogra_yeah, definitely15:48
ogra_not sure why it is still there15:48
rsalvetibecause it still works I guess15:48
ogra_DJJeff, its rock solid for me15:48
ogra_DJJeff, its not designed for apt ... just dont use it :)15:48
ogra_(well, for upgrading via apt ... you can install single packages but that breaks OTA upgrading so you got to keep the pieces)15:49
DJJeffgoing from the home screen to Videos and screen locks up15:50
rickspencer3mhall119, so, the alarm clock doesn't seem to be working perfectly15:53
rickspencer3I can'd edit or turn off an alarm, for example15:53
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pmcgowannik90, still happens in 22915:57
pmcgowanrickspencer3, yes known issues15:58
pmcgowannik90, is that down in qtorganizer-eds?15:58
rickspencer3thanks pmcgowan15:58
rsalvetipmcgowan: renato: popey: any idea why we can't import google contacts anymore by following http://askubuntu.com/questions/360554/how-do-i-sync-google-contacts ?15:59
pmcgowanrsalveti, no that should work I think, it did a few builds back15:59
rsalvetipmcgowan: right, broken with latest16:00
ogra_rsalveti, hmm, i think i saw someone else asking the same today16:00
rickspencer3well, the alarm worked, at least, so that's a good start16:00
pmcgowanrickspencer3, still not setting in the hw though, thats the last bit16:00
rickspencer3pmcgowan, not sure what you mean16:01
ogra_[INFO] addressbook: looking for databases...16:01
ogra_[INFO] addressbook: okay16:01
ogra_Gkr: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files16:01
ogra_phone ML, subject: "[Ubuntu-phone] Google Contacts Sync"16:01
ogra_from yesterday morning16:01
rsalvetiyeah, same what I got here16:02
pmcgowanrickspencer3, the upper layer sees the alarm and does the notification, but will not work if suspended16:02
ogra_rsalveti, xnox dropped dbus-x11 from the image16:02
rickspencer3pmcgowan, ah, gotcha16:02
ogra_i wonder if the import tools try to use it16:02
rickspencer3sounds like an eds thing :)16:02
pmcgowansync-evolution change?16:02
ogra_pmcgowan, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140308.changes ....16:03
ogra_no syncevolution ... but dbus-x11 dropping16:03
ogra_stgraber, we seem to see some random wlan issues with recent images, is there something new in lxc that needs overriding ?16:04
hennoHi. Is it possible to trigger address-book-app to reload/update contacts after a successful sync with owncloud using syncevolution?16:04
pmcgowanogra_, bfiller thinks a new sync-evolution went in friday16:05
bfillerLaney: when did that synevo land?16:05
pmcgowanyeah friday16:06
stgraberogra_: nope, ubuntu-touch actually turns off all the network features of LXC and just use the host network namespace directly16:06
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/syncevolution16:06
rsalvetiogra_: what issues?16:06
rsalvetihm, major version bump16:07
pmcgowanrsalveti, Mirv re the qtwebkit fix we did for DPR, have you looked into applying that for 5.2?16:07
rsalvetipmcgowan: the big revert patch? I think Mirv tried applying it but got many conflicts16:08
ogra_rsalveti, popey and Saviq independently had different ones ... while a device was up for popey but no networks were showing in the UI, Saviq had no wlan networking at all16:08
pmcgowanrsalveti, Mirv we hit a bit of a wall on the real fix to use the new res ind support16:09
rsalvetipmcgowan: it seems kaleo and ricmm were able to get the last remaining issues with unity-mir fixed last friday16:09
ogra_rsalveti, both with the latest image right after upgrading16:09
pmcgowanrsalveti, there is still an issue16:09
pmcgowanrsalveti, which may not be solvable short term16:09
rsalvetipmcgowan: hm, which one?16:09
pmcgowanrsalveti, the edge gesture not working, and shell not using all horizontal pixels16:10
rsalvetiogra_: need more info, like dmesg and such16:10
pmcgowanrsalveti, due to the way Qt is doing it, we lose accuracy on real pixels16:10
ogra_rsalveti, yeah16:10
pmcgowanrsalveti, so need to also look at the old patch again16:10
rsalvetipmcgowan: oh, hm16:11
ogra_rsalveti, bug 1290275 ... not much there either16:11
ubot5bug 1290275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Network indicator shows no networks, but network is connected mako #229" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129027516:11
ogra_and i think Saviq didnt file one16:11
Saviqogra_, no, I didn't, couldn't reproduce - after a reboot the issue was gon16:11
rsalvetimaybe a bug with the newer nm?16:11
Saviqe16:11
kenvandineOMG!  My alarm just rang... while suspended!16:12
rsalvetikenvandine: not fully suspended16:12
kenvandinethe joy... i never thought i'd be so excited to hear an alarm :)16:12
kenvandinersalveti, ah, so there are multiple states?16:12
rsalvetisorry to disappoint you16:12
kenvandinehaha :)16:12
kenvandinehuge progress16:12
ogra_nah, broken16:12
ogra_:P16:12
kenvandinei hadn't touched my phone in at least 5m16:12
rsalvetikenvandine: mako takes a while to go into deep suspend16:12
kenvandinethen it rang...16:12
rsalvetithere's one annoying wakelock (radio) making it not to go into deep sleep16:13
kenvandinestill a huge step... so anxious for alarms16:13
kenvandinenow to get it using a different sound for alarms16:13
Kaleosorry guys:!16:14
kenvandinehey Kaleo16:14
kenvandinepmcgowan, do you know if there are plans to be able to change the alarm sound?16:14
nik90kenvandine: yes that's the plan..the Alarms API has support for it16:15
cwaynepls be dconf key16:15
pmcgowannik90, is that a clock config thing?16:15
nik90pmcgowan: well I just tested a branch provided to me by zsombi which fixes the edit single alarm issue16:15
kenvandinei don't recall seeing that on the settings spec, i'd think that would be another category in system-settings16:15
pmcgowannik90, cool, guess we need that to land16:15
kenvandinei think you should be able to choose it from the clock app too16:15
rsalvetibfiller: pmcgowan: can we get someone that knows more about evolution to find a way to import google contacts?16:15
rsalvetithat's really useful16:15
kenvandinebut i think there should be a setting for the "default alarm sound"16:15
kenvandinein settings16:15
nik90pmcgowan: we don't have a design for the alarm sounds yet but it is definitely in the roadmap16:15
pmcgowanI could see it being in the settings sounds16:16
bfillerrsalveti: we're quite close to having contact sync working with sync evo so it will just work16:16
bfillerrsalveti: but in the meantime I'll ask renato to see why it stopped working16:16
rsalvetibfiller: cool, thanks16:16
nik90rickspencer3: sorry, those are known alarm issues which are being worked on16:17
rickspencer3thanks for the heads up nik9016:17
kenvandinenik90, it is just soooo exciting to get an alarm :)16:18
nik90kenvandine: well trust me I am more excited than everyone to get alarms working up to this point :D16:18
cwaynemhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/16:20
didrocksmhall119: dpm: hey, I'm unsure why we have some app development session in the client track16:21
didrocksmhall119: dpm: can you move them back in the app developer tracks? Seems like you have some free slots at the same time16:21
dpmdidrocks, we put them in there because they're actually client sessions that were filed as appdev sessions16:22
didrocksdpm: I can't even reschedule them properly as they are not part of my track16:22
dpmdidrocks, we need an admin to change their type from appdev- to client-. If I'm not mistaken on how summit works, mhall119 can do that. In the meantime I can move some of the sessions out of the way for you so you can reschedule16:26
didrocksdpm: ok, will tell you then :)16:26
dpmok :)16:27
cwaynebfiller: i dont suppose theres any plan to have the ubuntuuitoolkit gallery packaged as a click?16:29
pmcgowancwayne, its open source ;)16:31
cwaynelol16:31
mhall119didrocks: thanks for the birthday present :)16:32
mhall119r226 is lovely16:32
didrocksmhall119: ahah, it was all planned from the beginning \o/16:32
didrockshad to retained an image for 2 weeks and half just for yo!16:32
didrocksyou*16:32
mhall119heh, glad to know I'm that important :)16:32
didrocksmhall119: heh, this is called "dedication" :)16:33
* genii slides Hashcode a coffee and a Motorola Photon G with Cornholio hardware mod16:35
davmor2didrocks: Oh so it's all mhall119 faulty that the images were broken then, That comes as absolutely no surprise to me ;)16:35
* Hashcode would probably need more than 1 coffee.16:36
geniiHashcode: :D16:36
davmor2s/faulty/fault :)16:36
Hashcodegenii did someone put out an Ubuntu Touch for the Photon 4G?16:37
geniiHashcode: Not that I know of yet, but then again it's a limited market with the stock models and embedded SIM ....16:37
Hashcodeah16:38
davmor2mhall119: can you have an unofficial daily birthday so we can get back to regular promotion waiting another 12 months for your birthday to come round again won't be fun :D16:38
geniiHashcode: I actually pretty much have given up on any more decent QWERTY phones and resigned myself to purchasing a Nexus 416:39
mhall119davmor2: we had daily promotion before, didrocks just stopped them to lower my expectations in the lead up to my birthday16:39
Hashcodegenii: yeah the future for hard keyboard is pretty dim16:40
mhall119he's social-engineering our relationship16:40
davmor2mhall119: hehe :)16:40
HashcodeI still have my Droid 4 :/16:40
geniiHashcode: Are you still working on Touch for Droid 4? Because I can pick one up pretty cheap here to tinker with16:41
Hashcodegenii: I've been "slacking" lately16:41
geniiHashcode: Yes, I understand16:42
ogra_mhall119, so you and jcastro share the same birthday ?16:42
Hashcodegenii: Playing w/ a k3.14 Android build up for the KFire16:42
didrocksmhall119: damned, where is my mask now? :)16:44
mhall119ogra_: mine was yesterday, so technically didrocks was late with my present, but I'll forgive him because it was on a Sunday16:44
ogra_haha16:44
ogra_mhall119, happy belated b-day then :)16:44
mhall119thanks :)16:44
didrocksmhall119: come on, you asked me to block everyone for 2 weeks and half just for you, and you are asking me to work on Sunday? :)16:44
didrockstsss people16:44
didrocksno reward… :p16:44
mhall119didrocks: if you *really* loved me, I wouldn't have to ask16:45
ogra_didrocks, well, but it was a birthday present ...16:45
didrocksmhall119: ahah16:45
didrocksogra_: come on, he's younger for a day and complain! :)16:45
ogra_heh16:45
cwaynemhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/16:47
davmor2mhall119: happy day after birthday then dude :)  Technically it was ready Friday but didrocks had to go paint a kitchen like that was important ;)  Admittedly he is still alive to release it today so probably the wiser decision :)16:48
mhall119work suggestions on the OSK are great, but when it doesn't like what I've typed there's no way for me to tell it to accept it anyway?16:49
didrocksdavmor2: yeah, we are kitchen-date driven for promotion :)16:49
didrocksthe final release will be in 2 weeks then16:49
didrocks:)16:49
mhall119cwayne: what track should this be on?16:49
mhall119client?16:49
didrocksthe kitchen track? :)16:50
davmor2didrocks: \o/ then we can sun and surf for the rest of the release right?16:50
cwayneeither client or core i'd think?16:50
didrocksdavmor2: or start cooking :)16:50
mhall119didrocks: we have a hallway track....but that's as far as we've gotten16:50
didrocksahah :)16:50
mhall119cwayne: pick one, put your proposed meeting on that, and bug a track lead16:50
mhall119cwayne: track leads are listed on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/tracks16:50
cwaynemhall119: thanks :)16:51
cwayneslangasek: hi, was wondering how to get http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ scheduled16:53
slangasekcwayne: isn't this a duplicate of the blueprint ogra already created?16:53
slangasekcwayne: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22219/core-1403-hardware-handling-touch/16:54
cwayneslangasek: no, that's for getting hw-specific bits out of the rootfs and into the device tarball, this is more for carrier customizations16:54
slangasekah16:54
ogra_slangasek, mine is solely HW porting related16:54
cwayneso related, but different :)16:54
slangasekcwayne: ok, so is there a reason yours is not registered as a blueprint?16:54
slangasekif you're expecting this discussion to lead to any work items across Ubuntu Core, please register it as a blueprint instead of directly in summit16:55
MacSlowmandel, do you have an idea why an image-update from 194 to 226 might not work... the image was downloaded and installed, but the "about device"-page (or system-image-cli) still reports 194 to be installed.16:55
cwayneslangasek: i'd  be surprised if any work items were assigned outside my team, but happy to register a bp16:56
MacSlowmandel, hm... oddly... now it worked on the nexus4... but still not after three attempts on the nexus1016:56
slangasekcwayne: if you guys are doing all the work, then there's no need from our side for a blueprint :)  I'll get it registered16:57
mhall119didrocks: I had to bump a client session off the schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22174/core-1403-landing-process-touch/16:57
mhall119didrocks: to make room for mark's keynote16:57
mhall119so it'll need to be re-scheduled16:57
cwayneslangasek: lovely, thank you :)16:57
didrocksmhall119: hum, this one was agreed to be at that time for asac16:57
ogra_mhall119, or you could ask mark to talk about the touch landing process16:58
ogra_:)16:58
ogra_then it fits again16:58
didrocksmhall119: he's on holidays and already talked about it16:58
didrockson the phone ML16:58
slangasekmhall119, didrocks: I've rescheduled it for the last slot on wednesday16:58
slangasek(but, sigh)16:58
didrocksslangasek: last slot? wasn't it there already?16:58
mhall119slangasek: 1900 slot on wednesday is a plenary now16:58
slangasekdidrocks: s/last slot/last remaining slot/16:58
slangasekso in fact it's now in the /first/ slot ;)16:59
didrocksmhall119: I thought the schedule wasn't going to change :/16:59
didrocksI'm happy it's in the first slot, but would be nice if mhall119 would talk abou it16:59
mhall119didrocks: it's a sabdfl change16:59
didrocksand ensure asac will come :)16:59
mhall119asac: sorry about the late change, can you make the new time on that session?17:00
didrocksmhall119: he's on holidays17:00
didrocksand will only come back for that day17:00
didrockslet's hope he will be back in time…17:00
mhall119didrocks: I'll email him, hopefully he's checking email17:01
didrocksmhall119: thanks17:01
didrocksmhall119: however, can you take the session in client 2 at the same time and put it at the app developer2.17:01
didrocksmhall119: I can't be in 2 hangouts :p17:01
cwaynenot with that attitude you can't17:01
mhall119didrocks: the webbrowser one?17:03
didrocksmhall119: yeah17:03
didrocksmhall119: I'll email the ML as well about the change17:03
mandelMacSlow, no idea, we do know there is a bug we want to fix but we are blocked by the qt 5.2 change17:15
MacSlowmandel, ok17:15
mandelMacSlow, those 3 attemps might be due to that17:15
mandelMacSlow, were you doing a manual check for updates?17:15
MacSlowmandel, just odd that it worked on the N4 but not on the n1017:15
mandelMacSlow, it is indeed strange, specially because the code is the same, it is not a bad  idea to file a bug and ping barry too17:16
MacSlowmandel, I will17:17
ogra_MacSlow, do you have the proper recovery image installed btw ? the new images have a rotating ubuntu circle of friends when applying the update17:18
ogra_(not the little robot with the guts out and rotating diamond)17:18
MacSlowogra_, nope... still seeing the android robot17:19
MacSlowogra_, I didn't know I have to explicitly update that too17:19
MacSlowogra_, which wiki-page to consult?17:19
ogra_ah, thats most likely your issue ... you should flash once with --bootstrap=true17:19
sergiusensMacSlow, then reboot to bootloader and ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap --channel your_choice17:19
MacSlowwill do that17:19
sergiusensMacSlow, you don't unless you've been hit by the bug17:20
sergiusensin image 205 iirc17:20
sergiusensogra_, updating from devel to devel won't give you the awesome circle of friends though as the updater script doesn't boot into the latest recovery it has when updating17:21
sergiusensogra_, flashing a device without bootstrapping out of band acts the exact same way as a system-image-cli update17:21
ogra_ah17:23
sergiusensstgraber, any thoughts about booting into the new recovery if it's provided with the update?17:24
mhall119is phablet-screenshot broken for the n4 r226?17:25
sergiusensrobotfuel_, can you get someone to test https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/phablet-tools/fix_1289525/+merge/210007 on precise?17:26
ahayzenfginther, ping17:26
MacSlowsergiusens, hm... "fastboot devices" does no longer show the N4... so what way do I have to make it boot into the bootloader? Does the Volume-Up/Down/Power-press also work from a running device?17:27
didrocksmhall119: mind moving it now? I can't ;)17:27
didrocksmhall119: and then will forget :p17:27
mhall119didrocks: moving what to where/when?17:27
sergiusensMacSlow, adb reboot bootloader17:27
didrocksmhall119: thursday, second session on client2?17:27
sergiusensMacSlow, or power up as you say17:27
didrocksmhall119: for the session we talked about, the webbrowser one17:28
MacSlowsergiusens, "adb reboot bootloader" reports "device not found" although it's plugged in and powered up17:28
sergiusensmhall119, the hack of phablet-screenshot won't work anymore with most device until the latest mir lands and screenshotting is provided by it17:28
robotfuel_sergiusens: I can ask here, everyone I know is running trusty.17:28
sergiusensMacSlow, are you in the bootloader?17:28
mhall119didrocks: thursday's client 2 session is contact/calendar sync17:29
sergiusensrobotfuel_, yeah, maybe fginther can17:29
didrocksmhall119: that's not the second session, right?17:29
didrocksmhall119: at 3 PM UTC17:29
MacSlowsergiusens, no I want to get to it... as you said I've to "ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap=true" to get the newer recovery image flashed17:29
sergiusensMacSlow, just in case if in bootloader -> fastboot; if in recovery or running system -> adb17:29
mhall119didrocks: there's nothing in client-2 at 1500 on Thursday17:30
sergiusensMacSlow, so if cable and sw is failing I say power cycle and press both vol buttons17:30
mhall119didrocks: are you talking about Wednesday?17:30
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didrocksmhall119: yeah, so please move the session that is now in conflict on wednesday 2 PM UTC (the webbrowser one) due to the session you moved (landing process rules) to this free slot17:31
didrocksmhall119: would be way easier if I can move session on my track…17:31
mhall119didrocks: done17:32
didrocksmhall119: thx17:32
mhall119didrocks: that meeting can be re-classifed as client track, then you'd be able to move it17:32
didrocksmhall119: I would love, can you reclassify the 2 on my tracks?17:32
didrocks(the 2 from thursday)17:32
mhall119didrocks: meetings from LP need to be renamed, otherwise if I change it in summit it'll just be changed back on the next import17:37
mhall119bfiller: pmcgowan: ^^ can we change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1303-apps-webbrowser and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1403-pim-sync to be client-1403-* named?17:38
didrocksthanks mhall119, bfiller :)17:38
mhall119bfiller: might as well change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1311-apps-convergence too17:38
pmcgowanmhall119, pim sync makes sense to switch, not sure browser does17:38
pmcgowanconvergence is fine17:39
pmcgowanto switch17:39
bfillermhall119: fine with me, just send me a link to the new locations as I'm editing them today17:42
mhall119bfiller: location is the same, except s/appdev/client/17:42
mhall119pmcgowan: I think the browser session should be changed because app developers don't use the browser17:43
pmcgowanmhall119, they will discuss the webview there,and the webapp container17:45
pmcgowanmhall119, but up to you17:45
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robotfuel_sergiusens: I am downloading precise and will check phablet-network in a live session, if that works for you?17:53
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sergiusensrobotfuel_, sure; that should work17:53
robotfuel_sergiusens: a live cd/usb session.17:53
fgintherahayzen, pong17:55
ahayzenfginther, i see the clock and sudoku app are building on the PPA again, i believe we provided the same fix to the music-app is there any reason its PPA has not also been updated?17:55
fgintherahayzen, checking17:56
ahayzenfginther, thanks17:57
seb128awe__, cyphermox, rsalveti: hey, do you know if ofono provides what we need for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1287267 or if that's being worked on?17:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1287267 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) ""Data usage statistics" not shown" [Low,Triaged]17:58
awe__seb128, no this isn't being worked on atm18:00
mhall119pmcgowan: I've gone ahead and change the webbrowser session to client- too, if for no other reason than to let didrocks control it's schedule placement in his room18:00
pmcgowanmhall119, fine18:00
awe__seb128, I'll update the bug wrt to ofono and it's capabilities18:00
seb128awe__, ok, is there a roadmap for the ofono work? can we get it added somewhere? (or just the bug triaged)18:00
seb128awe__, thanks18:01
fgintherahayzen, the version number went backwards.  It was 1.2ubuntu2, then it went to 1.2 and now it's 1.2ubuntu1. The version in the PPA is based on 1.2ubuntu2.18:03
ahayzenfginther, so if we bump to 1.2ubuntu3 ? it'll be rebuilt?18:04
popeyheh, oops18:04
fgintherahayzen, yes. 1.2ubuntu2 should also work18:04
popeythanks fginther18:04
ahayzenfginther, thanks18:04
fgintherpopey, ahayzen, you're welcome18:04
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ahayzenfginther, popey, is this correct? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/bump-version-1.2ubuntu2/+merge/21027518:15
popeylgtm18:16
fgintherahayzen, +118:16
ahayzenpopey, can u approve it if so :)18:16
ahayzenfginther, popey, thanks guys :)18:17
popeysho thang18:17
popeydone18:17
hennohow can i signal the address-book-app to reload contacts? or am i doing somethin gwrong when using sync-evolution?18:18
hennois there a dbus signal i could send to the app ?18:19
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ahayzennew music app has landed in the PPA \o/ thanks fginther, popey18:35
fgintherahayzen, excellent18:35
arnyekhejahello18:53
arnyekhejatudvalaki segiteni hogy  egy "Prestigio 5300 duo ,53coll -os telefonra mikor lehet felakni a ubuntut18:54
arnyekheja?18:54
arnyekheja5,3"18:55
geniiThat seemed quite cryptic.18:57
slangasekHungarian usually is18:57
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aquariushas the new image been promoted to trusty, or is it in trusty-danger-will-robinson or something?20:18
nhainesaquarius: if by "new image" you mean "old image from Friday", then the answer is a resounding yes.20:19
aquariusfriday? blimey :)20:19
nhainesThat's r226.  :)20:19
aquariusI could have upgraded over the weekend ifI'd known that!20:19
nhainesYou could've!  :)20:19
aquariusthe Ubuntu Dual Boot android app doesn't show me what's *available*, just what I *have*20:19
aquarius(I have 194)20:19
* aquarius uninstalls ubuntu with the android app, and yet preserves user data, hooray20:20
aquariusdoes the r226 handle doing system upgrades from Ubuntu while being a dual boot? or is that work still pending?20:20
* aquarius installs from the trusty channel20:21
nhainesaquarius: hmm.  Good question!  I think that's still pending.20:23
aquariusno worries20:23
aquariusthe android faffing about is not too much of a problem20:23
aquariusbut I am too chicken to dedicate my phone completely yet :)20:23
nhainesI'm on the Nexus 5 so I use MultiROM Manager, and that now supports system upgrade from Ubuntu, so I'm happy.  :)20:23
nhainesSometimes youw want Google Navigation.  :)20:23
Tassadardammit, my s-i.tasemnice.eu generated the new devel image with wrong version number20:23
aquariuswell, working bluetooth, but yeah :P20:23
popeyaquarius: the image was built on friday but not promoted till today20:24
aquariuspopey, aha, cool20:24
nhainesI'm still a little appalled that no one seems concerned by the lack of working Bluetooth on Ubuntu.  :P20:24
aquariusnhaines, well, bluetooth works fine on my desktop20:24
aquariusjust not on my phone, yet.20:24
aquariusI am assuming it's being worked on20:25
aquariusbut there's lots to do, and it's not the most critical thing20:25
nhainesaquarius: actually, I think trusty broke everything on my laptop.  I should probably recheck now that there's been kernel updates.20:25
cyphermoxnhaines: I am concerned, it's just not simple20:25
nhainesBluetooth is kind of a critical thing if you want to ship phones.  :)20:25
* aquarius nods. I trust cyphermox :)20:26
nhainescyphermox: if it were simple it would have been fixed last July.  As long as there's concern and work, I'm happy.  :)20:26
cyphermoxnhaines: yes, it would have been fixed in july ;)20:26
nhainesMaybe Meizu or BQ will throw money at it.  That'd be nice.20:26
geniiIt would also be nice if they released a 64 or 128 G version which wasn't specific to Chinese frequency ranges20:27
nhainesgenii: I suppose we'll have to wait and see what the Ubuntu devices look like.  :)20:32
geniiI figure the first MX3 will have to be 32G international models20:33
aquariusyay I have Update Manager back again!20:34
nhainesaquarius: wouldn't it be more fun to just uninstall and reinstall apps randomly to see if they've updated?20:37
aquariusHm. Because I'm dual-booting, I did the "downgrade the android radio to 4.2" thing. didrocks's promotion email says that it's now using android 4.4 for hardware, so.... should I reverse that process now?20:38
aquariusAlso, a question. Spell checking, auto completion, and word suggestions are turned off in System Settings > Language and Text. Is that because I have an old image which has been upgraded, or are they supposed to be off by default because they're not ready yet?20:42
nhainesaquarius: yes you should probably go back to the 4.4 radio.20:43
nhainesLanguage settings aren't ready yet, but I think I read where they are happy to have testers.20:43
aquariusnhaines, are there instructions around for going back to the 4.4 radio?20:47
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nhainesaquarius: no, but it's basically the same thing you did to get the 4.2 radio, except you extract it from the 4.4 image. :)20:52
popeyaquarius: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06840.html20:56
dansufHi, I am trying to build working kernel for my device using the brunch command. I want to change the compression of the initramfs from gzip to something else to check if it would solve kernel panics. How can I do it?21:01
aquariuspopey, oh, nice, there's a new version of the android thing? COol21:06
aquariuspopey, is Alex Kaluzhny on irc? I don't know him/her21:10
popeyaquarius: alexkaluzhny21:10
aquariusah, easy enough :)21:10
Tassadarhmm, did the 226 trusty image get promoted correctly? Like, wasn't it accidentally version 207 and then got changed? I'm trying to find out why my s-i server marked it as 207 instead of 22621:12
popeyno, its certainly 22621:13
Tassadarhm, I just don't see how it could've used 207 Oo well, I've fixed it manually now and added some more logs, we'll see when the next image gets to devel21:16
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cwayneplars: just to make sure i'm doing the right thing trying to reprouce the uitoolkit stuff -- is phablet-click-test-setup and then phablet-test-run ubuntuuitoolkit close enough to what is done by jenkins?21:21
plarscwayne: I believe that one also installs the -autopilot package21:23
plarscwayne: and we enable writable image21:23
plarscwayne: so you'd also want to do that with phablet-config21:24
cwayneplars: so phablet-config writable-image and then apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot?21:24
plarscwayne: sounds about right21:25
cwayneplars: i'll give that a shot then21:26
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gntunaI am trying to put Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus, but when I get to the point of "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap" I get an error message saying "Device is |tuna| Device tuna not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel devel" I don't quite understand because this variant I have is maguro 16GB. Is It still possible to put on Ubuntu Touch?22:48
sergiusensgntuna, add --device maguro to the cli22:52
gntunaThanks so much :)22:53
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cwayneplars: so good news and bad news!  good news: I'm *finally* able to reproduce the hang!  the bad news: it didn't really help me figure out what's going on23:03
cwaynealso doesn't make sense to me how it happens all the time on the dashboard, but I had to try multiple times to repro..23:04
cwayneheh, and now to check that it was indeed hanged i picked up the phone nad scrolled, and now it seems the tests picked up where they left off23:05
robotfuel_sergiusens: phablet-tools depends on a package call click but it's not installable in precise.23:11
robotfuel_sergiusens: am I missing a ppa?23:11
robotfuel_sergiusens: I apt-added the  ppa:phablet-team/tools23:12
sergiusensrobotfuel_, the ubuntu sdk ppa23:18
sergiusensrobotfuel_, it's fixed in an unmerged branch under review23:19
robotfuel_sergiusens: my phablet-network MP works in a precise live USB session, I was just doing some exploratory testing while I had it loaded...23:20
sergiusensrobotfuel_, awesome23:21
sergiusensrobotfuel_, were you fixing gallery tests btw?23:21
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robotfuel_sergiusens: no I don't know about gallery tests, I have been working on upgrade testing using system-settings.23:22
robotfuel_sergiusens: I can take a look to see if it's easy to fix and do it if you have a bug23:22
robotfuel_sergiusens: I planned on starting with HWE testing tomorrow23:25
sergiusensrobotfuel_, nah, I recall you (and perhaps not) asking about gallery testing23:25
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sergiusensthere's a fix that need to happen which is rather dumb; but if someone was shifting and swapping test stuff; I wanted to piggyback on it23:26

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