popey | which means you only get "promoted" images - that is - tested | 00:00 |
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popey | if you go for devel-proposed you may well get an image which is broken now and then | 00:00 |
n-iCe | oh ok | 00:00 |
popey | worth subscribing to the ubuntu-phone mailing list, didier sends out updates about which images are good/bad | 00:00 |
n-iCe | so as my first time I should use devel? | 00:00 |
popey | every day | 00:00 |
n-iCe | 2014/03/09 18:01:22 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface... | 00:01 |
n-iCe | 2014/03/09 18:01:22 exit status 255 | 00:01 |
n-iCe | I am getting that | 00:01 |
popey | what device? | 00:01 |
n-iCe | nexus4 | 00:01 |
surgemcgee | I am gonna make a Spin ball game using the Ubuntu Logo as a pinwheel to reflect balls out of the screen. It may serve as a nice promo piece and a fun game if the screen is not too small, we'll see.. | 00:02 |
surgemcgee | Is that Ok? | 00:02 |
aquarius | surgemcgee, sure it is. You can make whatever apps you want :) | 00:03 |
popey | surgemcgee: you can ping the trademarks people, but I doub't it's a problem | 00:03 |
surgemcgee | cool, cool | 00:03 |
surgemcgee | What channel is the trademark people? | 00:04 |
n-iCe | popey: would you use devel then? | 00:04 |
n-iCe | what's saucy trusty and devel? | 00:04 |
n-iCe | what does that mean | 00:04 |
aquarius | surgemcgee, http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-rights-policy/contact-us | 00:05 |
aquarius | although I really don't think there'll be a problem :) | 00:06 |
n-iCe | 2014/03/09 18:05:47 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting | 00:07 |
n-iCe | and nothing is happening in my phone | 00:07 |
popey | n-iCe: i use both | 00:07 |
popey | (I have two Nexus 4s) | 00:08 |
popey | n-iCe: what state is the phone in right now? (It should be in bootloader - press power + voldown from off) | 00:08 |
n-iCe | done rebooted manually | 00:12 |
n-iCe | kthanks popey | 00:13 |
n-iCe | so dialy I should go and update? | 00:13 |
n-iCe | how do I go back if an image is broken? | 00:13 |
popey | reflash with ubuntu-device-image | 00:16 |
n-iCe | oh | 00:16 |
n-iCe | but no way to do it without a pc? | 00:16 |
n-iCe | Ok I have Ubuntu phone OS now running in my device :) | 00:17 |
popey | n-iCe: yeah, you can do it in the terminal on the device | 00:18 |
popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Further_Examples | 00:18 |
popey | system-image-cli is the command line tool on the device | 00:18 |
n-iCe | where do I install apps | 00:19 |
n-iCe | can't find | 00:19 |
r3pwn | Where do I go to download the source for the 4.4.2 phablet-trusty branch? | 00:19 |
popey | n-iCe: go to settings -> accounts, sign in to an ubuntu one account | 00:20 |
popey | then new apps will show up in the dash | 00:20 |
r3pwn | n-iCe: There isn't an app store, but once you enable wifi, all installable apps will be shown under Suggested apps on the Applications tab of the home screen | 00:20 |
n-iCe | thanks | 00:39 |
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dholbach | good morning | 07:20 |
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group1 | hi | 07:33 |
nhaines | group1: hi | 07:34 |
group1 | hi | 07:34 |
OliTouch | Hi, I just installed ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus, but it's not connect my carrier. How do i solve that? | 08:41 |
Saviq | is no WiFi (as in the device doesn't seem to be there) on mako with latest image a known issue? | 08:58 |
Saviq | hmm it's back after a reboot | 08:59 |
ogra_ | Saviq, i only run 228 here (pre-last) but there were no changes in 229 apart from a new clock app | 08:59 |
ogra_ | and it works fine here | 09:00 |
Saviq | ogra_, yeah, back after a reboot, will report back if I encounter it again (I did see some kernel fail in dmesg before rebooting, maybe related) | 09:00 |
ogra_ | smells like, yeah | 09:01 |
popey | Saviq: ogra_ i see no wifi after flashing on #229 on mako too | 09:15 |
popey | however it is actually connected | 09:15 |
popey | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=93.7 ms | 09:15 |
popey | wlan0 802-11-wireless connected | 09:15 |
* popey files bug | 09:16 | |
ogra_ | funny, we didnt have any significany changes since 227 | 09:17 |
ogra_ | hmm, there seems to be an lxc change to support wlan devices | 09:19 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day of Awesomeness! :-D | 09:19 |
popey | ogra_: Saviq bug 1290275 | 09:21 |
ubot5 | bug 1290275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Network indicator shows no networks, but network is connected mako #229" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290275 | 09:21 |
Saviq | popey, mine was different - nm-tool didn't even show the device... | 09:21 |
popey | ooh | 09:22 |
sridhar_ | how to find html5 ubuntu apis | 09:51 |
sridhar_ | anybody there??? | 09:54 |
ogra_ | sridhar_, try develope.ubuntu.com (and also the #ubuntu-app-devel channel) | 09:54 |
ogra_ | oops | 09:54 |
ogra_ | *developer.ubuntu.com | 09:54 |
sridhar_ | but its slow low on docs developer.ubuntu.com | 10:00 |
sridhar_ | how to check the sdk version installed | 10:00 |
sridhar_ | anyone knows to check the ubunu sdk version installed ???? | 10:00 |
ogra_ | sridhar_, as i said above, the #ubuntu-app-devel channel is probably the better place to ask | 10:02 |
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davmor2 | Morning all | 11:00 |
t1mp | where are images downloaded by ubuntu-device-flash stored? | 11:21 |
t1mp | I used to have ~/Download/phablet-flash (or something like that) where phablet-flash stored its files | 11:21 |
didrocks | t1mp: ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/ is what appears in the trace when you are flashing it. | 11:24 |
t1mp | didrocks: that seems tricky. I always deleted the images manually after the directory got too big and when it is "hidden" it can start to fill people's disks space | 11:39 |
didrocks | t1mp: time to open a bug for sergio I guess :) | 11:39 |
popey | bug 1157710 | 11:40 |
ubot5 | bug 1157710 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash needs a cleanup option to remove old images" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157710 | 11:40 |
popey | ☻ | 11:40 |
popey | That'll be a year old in a week or so | 11:40 |
t1mp | popey: you are so much ahead of us :) | 11:42 |
ogra_ | luckily phablet-flash is deprecated since months :) | 11:42 |
t1mp | popey: but now that the directory is hidden, I think the importance became higher than "Wishlist" | 11:42 |
popey | the same issue is apparent in udf | 11:42 |
popey | +1 | 11:42 |
popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1157710 | 11:43 |
ogra_ | popey, so someone should open a task for it on that bug | 11:43 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1157710 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash needs a cleanup option to remove old images" [Wishlist,In progress] | 11:43 |
popey | there we go | 11:43 |
ogra_ | thanks | 11:44 |
popey | np | 11:44 |
ogra_ | i doubt sergio looks at old phablet-flash bugs | 11:44 |
ogra_ | it is dead and buried | 11:44 |
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davmor2 | ogra_: depends does it do the same thing with the new tool? | 12:41 |
davmor2 | ogra_: I certainly see 5 for mako, 2 for manta and 3 for flo | 12:43 |
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Corvus_ | Hi everybody | 12:53 |
Corvus_ | Someone here that can help my in some porting? | 12:54 |
davmor2 | Corvus_: you are best of talking about the issues you are having rather than as generally as that. p.s. don't look at me for it either :) | 12:57 |
Corvus_ | sorry for the delay, was doing some testing | 12:58 |
Corvus_ | ok, lets start | 12:58 |
Corvus_ | i have experience porting android and FFOS | 12:58 |
Corvus_ | i have a mobile phone with and x86 processor | 12:59 |
Corvus_ | similar to Lenovo K900 | 12:59 |
Corvus_ | i have all sources | 12:59 |
Corvus_ | It's not ported to cm, it's all aosp, but i patched de aosp build, and it finish building | 13:00 |
Corvus_ | Mi problem is not that it tries to boot, but it stalls in spash screen | 13:00 |
Corvus_ | i try to connect with adb and adb devices said me that is offline (with a serial number) | 13:01 |
Corvus_ | so i dont have adb :( | 13:01 |
Corvus_ | i try to get some logs from /proc/last_kmsg but i to enter recovery mode i need to use a fastboot menu, so the last_kmsg is from this fastboot boot and i dont have any way to enter to recovery directly :( | 13:03 |
Corvus_ | Like i said i have experience with android and FFOS, but i dont have it with touch, | 13:03 |
Corvus_ | i just know that there is two ways of booting with flipped or legacy | 13:04 |
Corvus_ | I try too to get some kernel booting in the scren but without success | 13:05 |
Corvus_ | any way that i can get logs to see what is happening or more info of how this works (links or anything that i can follow) | 13:06 |
Corvus_ | = | 13:06 |
Corvus_ | ? | 13:06 |
Corvus_ | maybe a problem with cmdline? is root needed for touch to work? | 13:08 |
Corvus_ | i'm using legacy mode with chroot in /data/ubuntu, | 13:08 |
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Tassadar | rsalveti: hi, the mobile data work on the deb build | 14:12 |
Tassadar | (according to at least two people on XDA) | 14:12 |
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sridhar_ | what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ??? | 14:31 |
sridhar_ | plz help | 14:32 |
sridhar_ | what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ??? | 14:33 |
sridhar_ | what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ??? | 14:35 |
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cwayne | plars: ping | 14:54 |
plars | cwayne: hi | 14:54 |
cwayne | plars: so i did a phablet-test-run on the customized image about 5 times, and can't reproduce the hang at all | 14:55 |
plars | cwayne: strange - didn't you say on friday that you were seeing why it was hanging? | 14:55 |
cwayne | no, i said i saw a lot of failures, but not hangs | 14:56 |
plars | cwayne: we see it with pretty much every single run on the custom image, but nowhere else | 14:57 |
plars | cwayne: bzoltan maybe has some idea why the test is getting stuck? ( http://q-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/trusty-touch_custom-mako-smoke-daily/62/consoleFull - search for "testing ubuntuuitoolkit" ) | 14:59 |
nik90 | pmcgowan: ping | 15:03 |
pmcgowan | hey nik90 | 15:03 |
nik90 | pmcgowan: hey, can you check if you can reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283212 in the latest #228 or @229 image? | 15:03 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1283212 in Ubuntu Clock App "Unable to edit single type alarms and update them" [High,Confirmed] | 15:03 |
nik90 | I think 229 is latest..anyways you should know | 15:03 |
pmcgowan | nik90, sure will check it | 15:03 |
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cwayne | plars: seems to fail here: 07:37:36.114 INFO globals:58 - Starting test ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.test_emulators.QQuickListViewTestCase.test_click_element_outside_view_below | 15:11 |
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dholbach | ogra_, sergiusens, are maguro images still built (and published elsewhere) or did we stop entirely? | 15:31 |
ogra_ | dholbach, i think we are still rolling the dailies (trusty-proposed), but we dont promote any of these to the trusty channel | 15:31 |
ogra_ | so for people on the trsuty channel 188 (or so) is the last image | 15:32 |
DJJeff | /dev/loop0 on / type ext2 (ro,relatime,errors=continue) | 15:33 |
DJJeff | on my nexus 7 | 15:33 |
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DJJeff | # mount -o remount, rw / | 15:34 |
DJJeff | fixed apt-get update errors | 15:34 |
cwayne | DJJeff: that's by design, updating is done by OTA updates, not apt-get | 15:37 |
rsalveti | Tassadar: great! | 15:40 |
Tassadar | are you gonna add it to s-i.ubuntu.com? | 15:40 |
rsalveti | Tassadar: yup, once the patches are reviewed I'll do another android upload enabling the additional target | 15:41 |
rsalveti | sergiusens: ^^ seems the deb patches are fine | 15:42 |
ogra_ | well we wont add it to s-i | 15:43 |
ogra_ | but to cdimage we can :) | 15:43 |
DJJeff | the screen would not even turn on until I mounted as RW thats odd | 15:43 |
rsalveti | ogra_: why not to s-i? | 15:44 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, dunno, same reason as hammerhead i think | 15:44 |
rsalveti | ogra_: and what is the reason? | 15:44 |
ogra_ | we dont officially support it | 15:45 |
rsalveti | well, we have grouper there :-) | 15:45 |
ogra_ | which i dont know why :) | 15:45 |
rsalveti | as we only officially supporting flashing devices using system-image, this sounds a bit weird | 15:45 |
ogra_ | i thought only supported images go to s-i | 15:45 |
ogra_ | for other images it costs us nothing to produce cdimage img files, s-i imports cost time though | 15:46 |
ogra_ | (additional ones) | 15:46 |
rsalveti | sure, but don't remember when we decided to do this | 15:46 |
ogra_ | we didnt | 15:46 |
ogra_ | asac did :) | 15:47 |
rsalveti | right, don't remember about that either | 15:47 |
DJJeff | ubuntu touch is still far from stable | 15:47 |
rsalveti | but anyway, community can still enable their own server I guess | 15:47 |
DJJeff | *sigh* | 15:47 |
Tassadar | I have the images on s-i.tasemnice.eu already | 15:47 |
ogra_ | he only wanted official arches on s-i | 15:47 |
rsalveti | ogra_: then we should drop grouper | 15:47 |
ogra_ | if thats not the case anymore i'm happy to have it | 15:48 |
ogra_ | yeah, definitely | 15:48 |
ogra_ | not sure why it is still there | 15:48 |
rsalveti | because it still works I guess | 15:48 |
ogra_ | DJJeff, its rock solid for me | 15:48 |
ogra_ | DJJeff, its not designed for apt ... just dont use it :) | 15:48 |
ogra_ | (well, for upgrading via apt ... you can install single packages but that breaks OTA upgrading so you got to keep the pieces) | 15:49 |
DJJeff | going from the home screen to Videos and screen locks up | 15:50 |
rickspencer3 | mhall119, so, the alarm clock doesn't seem to be working perfectly | 15:53 |
rickspencer3 | I can'd edit or turn off an alarm, for example | 15:53 |
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pmcgowan | nik90, still happens in 229 | 15:57 |
pmcgowan | rickspencer3, yes known issues | 15:58 |
pmcgowan | nik90, is that down in qtorganizer-eds? | 15:58 |
rickspencer3 | thanks pmcgowan | 15:58 |
rsalveti | pmcgowan: renato: popey: any idea why we can't import google contacts anymore by following http://askubuntu.com/questions/360554/how-do-i-sync-google-contacts ? | 15:59 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, no that should work I think, it did a few builds back | 15:59 |
rsalveti | pmcgowan: right, broken with latest | 16:00 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, hmm, i think i saw someone else asking the same today | 16:00 |
rickspencer3 | well, the alarm worked, at least, so that's a good start | 16:00 |
pmcgowan | rickspencer3, still not setting in the hw though, thats the last bit | 16:00 |
rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, not sure what you mean | 16:01 |
ogra_ | [INFO] addressbook: looking for databases... | 16:01 |
ogra_ | [INFO] addressbook: okay | 16:01 |
ogra_ | Gkr: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files | 16:01 |
ogra_ | phone ML, subject: "[Ubuntu-phone] Google Contacts Sync" | 16:01 |
ogra_ | from yesterday morning | 16:01 |
rsalveti | yeah, same what I got here | 16:02 |
pmcgowan | rickspencer3, the upper layer sees the alarm and does the notification, but will not work if suspended | 16:02 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, xnox dropped dbus-x11 from the image | 16:02 |
rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, ah, gotcha | 16:02 |
ogra_ | i wonder if the import tools try to use it | 16:02 |
rickspencer3 | sounds like an eds thing :) | 16:02 |
pmcgowan | sync-evolution change? | 16:02 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140308.changes .... | 16:03 |
ogra_ | no syncevolution ... but dbus-x11 dropping | 16:03 |
ogra_ | stgraber, we seem to see some random wlan issues with recent images, is there something new in lxc that needs overriding ? | 16:04 |
henno | Hi. Is it possible to trigger address-book-app to reload/update contacts after a successful sync with owncloud using syncevolution? | 16:04 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, bfiller thinks a new sync-evolution went in friday | 16:05 |
bfiller | Laney: when did that synevo land? | 16:05 |
pmcgowan | yeah friday | 16:06 |
stgraber | ogra_: nope, ubuntu-touch actually turns off all the network features of LXC and just use the host network namespace directly | 16:06 |
Laney | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/syncevolution | 16:06 |
rsalveti | ogra_: what issues? | 16:06 |
rsalveti | hm, major version bump | 16:07 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, Mirv re the qtwebkit fix we did for DPR, have you looked into applying that for 5.2? | 16:07 |
rsalveti | pmcgowan: the big revert patch? I think Mirv tried applying it but got many conflicts | 16:08 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, popey and Saviq independently had different ones ... while a device was up for popey but no networks were showing in the UI, Saviq had no wlan networking at all | 16:08 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, Mirv we hit a bit of a wall on the real fix to use the new res ind support | 16:09 |
rsalveti | pmcgowan: it seems kaleo and ricmm were able to get the last remaining issues with unity-mir fixed last friday | 16:09 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, both with the latest image right after upgrading | 16:09 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, there is still an issue | 16:09 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, which may not be solvable short term | 16:09 |
rsalveti | pmcgowan: hm, which one? | 16:09 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, the edge gesture not working, and shell not using all horizontal pixels | 16:10 |
rsalveti | ogra_: need more info, like dmesg and such | 16:10 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, due to the way Qt is doing it, we lose accuracy on real pixels | 16:10 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, yeah | 16:10 |
pmcgowan | rsalveti, so need to also look at the old patch again | 16:10 |
rsalveti | pmcgowan: oh, hm | 16:11 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, bug 1290275 ... not much there either | 16:11 |
ubot5 | bug 1290275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Network indicator shows no networks, but network is connected mako #229" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290275 | 16:11 |
ogra_ | and i think Saviq didnt file one | 16:11 |
Saviq | ogra_, no, I didn't, couldn't reproduce - after a reboot the issue was gon | 16:11 |
rsalveti | maybe a bug with the newer nm? | 16:11 |
Saviq | e | 16:11 |
kenvandine | OMG! My alarm just rang... while suspended! | 16:12 |
rsalveti | kenvandine: not fully suspended | 16:12 |
kenvandine | the joy... i never thought i'd be so excited to hear an alarm :) | 16:12 |
kenvandine | rsalveti, ah, so there are multiple states? | 16:12 |
rsalveti | sorry to disappoint you | 16:12 |
kenvandine | haha :) | 16:12 |
kenvandine | huge progress | 16:12 |
ogra_ | nah, broken | 16:12 |
ogra_ | :P | 16:12 |
kenvandine | i hadn't touched my phone in at least 5m | 16:12 |
rsalveti | kenvandine: mako takes a while to go into deep suspend | 16:12 |
kenvandine | then it rang... | 16:12 |
rsalveti | there's one annoying wakelock (radio) making it not to go into deep sleep | 16:13 |
kenvandine | still a huge step... so anxious for alarms | 16:13 |
kenvandine | now to get it using a different sound for alarms | 16:13 |
Kaleo | sorry guys:! | 16:14 |
kenvandine | hey Kaleo | 16:14 |
kenvandine | pmcgowan, do you know if there are plans to be able to change the alarm sound? | 16:14 |
nik90 | kenvandine: yes that's the plan..the Alarms API has support for it | 16:15 |
cwayne | pls be dconf key | 16:15 |
pmcgowan | nik90, is that a clock config thing? | 16:15 |
nik90 | pmcgowan: well I just tested a branch provided to me by zsombi which fixes the edit single alarm issue | 16:15 |
kenvandine | i don't recall seeing that on the settings spec, i'd think that would be another category in system-settings | 16:15 |
pmcgowan | nik90, cool, guess we need that to land | 16:15 |
kenvandine | i think you should be able to choose it from the clock app too | 16:15 |
rsalveti | bfiller: pmcgowan: can we get someone that knows more about evolution to find a way to import google contacts? | 16:15 |
rsalveti | that's really useful | 16:15 |
kenvandine | but i think there should be a setting for the "default alarm sound" | 16:15 |
kenvandine | in settings | 16:15 |
nik90 | pmcgowan: we don't have a design for the alarm sounds yet but it is definitely in the roadmap | 16:15 |
pmcgowan | I could see it being in the settings sounds | 16:16 |
bfiller | rsalveti: we're quite close to having contact sync working with sync evo so it will just work | 16:16 |
bfiller | rsalveti: but in the meantime I'll ask renato to see why it stopped working | 16:16 |
rsalveti | bfiller: cool, thanks | 16:16 |
nik90 | rickspencer3: sorry, those are known alarm issues which are being worked on | 16:17 |
rickspencer3 | thanks for the heads up nik90 | 16:17 |
kenvandine | nik90, it is just soooo exciting to get an alarm :) | 16:18 |
nik90 | kenvandine: well trust me I am more excited than everyone to get alarms working up to this point :D | 16:18 |
cwayne | mhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ | 16:20 |
didrocks | mhall119: dpm: hey, I'm unsure why we have some app development session in the client track | 16:21 |
didrocks | mhall119: dpm: can you move them back in the app developer tracks? Seems like you have some free slots at the same time | 16:21 |
dpm | didrocks, we put them in there because they're actually client sessions that were filed as appdev sessions | 16:22 |
didrocks | dpm: I can't even reschedule them properly as they are not part of my track | 16:22 |
dpm | didrocks, we need an admin to change their type from appdev- to client-. If I'm not mistaken on how summit works, mhall119 can do that. In the meantime I can move some of the sessions out of the way for you so you can reschedule | 16:26 |
didrocks | dpm: ok, will tell you then :) | 16:26 |
dpm | ok :) | 16:27 |
cwayne | bfiller: i dont suppose theres any plan to have the ubuntuuitoolkit gallery packaged as a click? | 16:29 |
pmcgowan | cwayne, its open source ;) | 16:31 |
cwayne | lol | 16:31 |
mhall119 | didrocks: thanks for the birthday present :) | 16:32 |
mhall119 | r226 is lovely | 16:32 |
didrocks | mhall119: ahah, it was all planned from the beginning \o/ | 16:32 |
didrocks | had to retained an image for 2 weeks and half just for yo! | 16:32 |
didrocks | you* | 16:32 |
mhall119 | heh, glad to know I'm that important :) | 16:32 |
didrocks | mhall119: heh, this is called "dedication" :) | 16:33 |
* genii slides Hashcode a coffee and a Motorola Photon G with Cornholio hardware mod | 16:35 | |
davmor2 | didrocks: Oh so it's all mhall119 faulty that the images were broken then, That comes as absolutely no surprise to me ;) | 16:35 |
* Hashcode would probably need more than 1 coffee. | 16:36 | |
genii | Hashcode: :D | 16:36 |
davmor2 | s/faulty/fault :) | 16:36 |
Hashcode | genii did someone put out an Ubuntu Touch for the Photon 4G? | 16:37 |
genii | Hashcode: Not that I know of yet, but then again it's a limited market with the stock models and embedded SIM .... | 16:37 |
Hashcode | ah | 16:38 |
davmor2 | mhall119: can you have an unofficial daily birthday so we can get back to regular promotion waiting another 12 months for your birthday to come round again won't be fun :D | 16:38 |
genii | Hashcode: I actually pretty much have given up on any more decent QWERTY phones and resigned myself to purchasing a Nexus 4 | 16:39 |
mhall119 | davmor2: we had daily promotion before, didrocks just stopped them to lower my expectations in the lead up to my birthday | 16:39 |
Hashcode | genii: yeah the future for hard keyboard is pretty dim | 16:40 |
mhall119 | he's social-engineering our relationship | 16:40 |
davmor2 | mhall119: hehe :) | 16:40 |
Hashcode | I still have my Droid 4 :/ | 16:40 |
genii | Hashcode: Are you still working on Touch for Droid 4? Because I can pick one up pretty cheap here to tinker with | 16:41 |
Hashcode | genii: I've been "slacking" lately | 16:41 |
genii | Hashcode: Yes, I understand | 16:42 |
ogra_ | mhall119, so you and jcastro share the same birthday ? | 16:42 |
Hashcode | genii: Playing w/ a k3.14 Android build up for the KFire | 16:42 |
didrocks | mhall119: damned, where is my mask now? :) | 16:44 |
mhall119 | ogra_: mine was yesterday, so technically didrocks was late with my present, but I'll forgive him because it was on a Sunday | 16:44 |
ogra_ | haha | 16:44 |
ogra_ | mhall119, happy belated b-day then :) | 16:44 |
mhall119 | thanks :) | 16:44 |
didrocks | mhall119: come on, you asked me to block everyone for 2 weeks and half just for you, and you are asking me to work on Sunday? :) | 16:44 |
didrocks | tsss people | 16:44 |
didrocks | no reward… :p | 16:44 |
mhall119 | didrocks: if you *really* loved me, I wouldn't have to ask | 16:45 |
ogra_ | didrocks, well, but it was a birthday present ... | 16:45 |
didrocks | mhall119: ahah | 16:45 |
didrocks | ogra_: come on, he's younger for a day and complain! :) | 16:45 |
ogra_ | heh | 16:45 |
cwayne | mhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ | 16:47 |
davmor2 | mhall119: happy day after birthday then dude :) Technically it was ready Friday but didrocks had to go paint a kitchen like that was important ;) Admittedly he is still alive to release it today so probably the wiser decision :) | 16:48 |
mhall119 | work suggestions on the OSK are great, but when it doesn't like what I've typed there's no way for me to tell it to accept it anyway? | 16:49 |
didrocks | davmor2: yeah, we are kitchen-date driven for promotion :) | 16:49 |
didrocks | the final release will be in 2 weeks then | 16:49 |
didrocks | :) | 16:49 |
mhall119 | cwayne: what track should this be on? | 16:49 |
mhall119 | client? | 16:49 |
didrocks | the kitchen track? :) | 16:50 |
davmor2 | didrocks: \o/ then we can sun and surf for the rest of the release right? | 16:50 |
cwayne | either client or core i'd think? | 16:50 |
didrocks | davmor2: or start cooking :) | 16:50 |
mhall119 | didrocks: we have a hallway track....but that's as far as we've gotten | 16:50 |
didrocks | ahah :) | 16:50 |
mhall119 | cwayne: pick one, put your proposed meeting on that, and bug a track lead | 16:50 |
mhall119 | cwayne: track leads are listed on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/tracks | 16:50 |
cwayne | mhall119: thanks :) | 16:51 |
cwayne | slangasek: hi, was wondering how to get http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ scheduled | 16:53 |
slangasek | cwayne: isn't this a duplicate of the blueprint ogra already created? | 16:53 |
slangasek | cwayne: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22219/core-1403-hardware-handling-touch/ | 16:54 |
cwayne | slangasek: no, that's for getting hw-specific bits out of the rootfs and into the device tarball, this is more for carrier customizations | 16:54 |
slangasek | ah | 16:54 |
ogra_ | slangasek, mine is solely HW porting related | 16:54 |
cwayne | so related, but different :) | 16:54 |
slangasek | cwayne: ok, so is there a reason yours is not registered as a blueprint? | 16:54 |
slangasek | if you're expecting this discussion to lead to any work items across Ubuntu Core, please register it as a blueprint instead of directly in summit | 16:55 |
MacSlow | mandel, do you have an idea why an image-update from 194 to 226 might not work... the image was downloaded and installed, but the "about device"-page (or system-image-cli) still reports 194 to be installed. | 16:55 |
cwayne | slangasek: i'd be surprised if any work items were assigned outside my team, but happy to register a bp | 16:56 |
MacSlow | mandel, hm... oddly... now it worked on the nexus4... but still not after three attempts on the nexus10 | 16:56 |
slangasek | cwayne: if you guys are doing all the work, then there's no need from our side for a blueprint :) I'll get it registered | 16:57 |
mhall119 | didrocks: I had to bump a client session off the schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22174/core-1403-landing-process-touch/ | 16:57 |
mhall119 | didrocks: to make room for mark's keynote | 16:57 |
mhall119 | so it'll need to be re-scheduled | 16:57 |
cwayne | slangasek: lovely, thank you :) | 16:57 |
didrocks | mhall119: hum, this one was agreed to be at that time for asac | 16:57 |
ogra_ | mhall119, or you could ask mark to talk about the touch landing process | 16:58 |
ogra_ | :) | 16:58 |
ogra_ | then it fits again | 16:58 |
didrocks | mhall119: he's on holidays and already talked about it | 16:58 |
didrocks | on the phone ML | 16:58 |
slangasek | mhall119, didrocks: I've rescheduled it for the last slot on wednesday | 16:58 |
slangasek | (but, sigh) | 16:58 |
didrocks | slangasek: last slot? wasn't it there already? | 16:58 |
mhall119 | slangasek: 1900 slot on wednesday is a plenary now | 16:58 |
slangasek | didrocks: s/last slot/last remaining slot/ | 16:58 |
slangasek | so in fact it's now in the /first/ slot ;) | 16:59 |
didrocks | mhall119: I thought the schedule wasn't going to change :/ | 16:59 |
didrocks | I'm happy it's in the first slot, but would be nice if mhall119 would talk abou it | 16:59 |
mhall119 | didrocks: it's a sabdfl change | 16:59 |
didrocks | and ensure asac will come :) | 16:59 |
mhall119 | asac: sorry about the late change, can you make the new time on that session? | 17:00 |
didrocks | mhall119: he's on holidays | 17:00 |
didrocks | and will only come back for that day | 17:00 |
didrocks | let's hope he will be back in time… | 17:00 |
mhall119 | didrocks: I'll email him, hopefully he's checking email | 17:01 |
didrocks | mhall119: thanks | 17:01 |
didrocks | mhall119: however, can you take the session in client 2 at the same time and put it at the app developer2. | 17:01 |
didrocks | mhall119: I can't be in 2 hangouts :p | 17:01 |
cwayne | not with that attitude you can't | 17:01 |
mhall119 | didrocks: the webbrowser one? | 17:03 |
didrocks | mhall119: yeah | 17:03 |
didrocks | mhall119: I'll email the ML as well about the change | 17:03 |
mandel | MacSlow, no idea, we do know there is a bug we want to fix but we are blocked by the qt 5.2 change | 17:15 |
MacSlow | mandel, ok | 17:15 |
mandel | MacSlow, those 3 attemps might be due to that | 17:15 |
mandel | MacSlow, were you doing a manual check for updates? | 17:15 |
MacSlow | mandel, just odd that it worked on the N4 but not on the n10 | 17:15 |
mandel | MacSlow, it is indeed strange, specially because the code is the same, it is not a bad idea to file a bug and ping barry too | 17:16 |
MacSlow | mandel, I will | 17:17 |
ogra_ | MacSlow, do you have the proper recovery image installed btw ? the new images have a rotating ubuntu circle of friends when applying the update | 17:18 |
ogra_ | (not the little robot with the guts out and rotating diamond) | 17:18 |
MacSlow | ogra_, nope... still seeing the android robot | 17:19 |
MacSlow | ogra_, I didn't know I have to explicitly update that too | 17:19 |
MacSlow | ogra_, which wiki-page to consult? | 17:19 |
ogra_ | ah, thats most likely your issue ... you should flash once with --bootstrap=true | 17:19 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, then reboot to bootloader and ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap --channel your_choice | 17:19 |
MacSlow | will do that | 17:19 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, you don't unless you've been hit by the bug | 17:20 |
sergiusens | in image 205 iirc | 17:20 |
sergiusens | ogra_, updating from devel to devel won't give you the awesome circle of friends though as the updater script doesn't boot into the latest recovery it has when updating | 17:21 |
sergiusens | ogra_, flashing a device without bootstrapping out of band acts the exact same way as a system-image-cli update | 17:21 |
ogra_ | ah | 17:23 |
sergiusens | stgraber, any thoughts about booting into the new recovery if it's provided with the update? | 17:24 |
mhall119 | is phablet-screenshot broken for the n4 r226? | 17:25 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, can you get someone to test https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/phablet-tools/fix_1289525/+merge/210007 on precise? | 17:26 |
ahayzen | fginther, ping | 17:26 |
MacSlow | sergiusens, hm... "fastboot devices" does no longer show the N4... so what way do I have to make it boot into the bootloader? Does the Volume-Up/Down/Power-press also work from a running device? | 17:27 |
didrocks | mhall119: mind moving it now? I can't ;) | 17:27 |
didrocks | mhall119: and then will forget :p | 17:27 |
mhall119 | didrocks: moving what to where/when? | 17:27 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, adb reboot bootloader | 17:27 |
didrocks | mhall119: thursday, second session on client2? | 17:27 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, or power up as you say | 17:27 |
didrocks | mhall119: for the session we talked about, the webbrowser one | 17:28 |
MacSlow | sergiusens, "adb reboot bootloader" reports "device not found" although it's plugged in and powered up | 17:28 |
sergiusens | mhall119, the hack of phablet-screenshot won't work anymore with most device until the latest mir lands and screenshotting is provided by it | 17:28 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: I can ask here, everyone I know is running trusty. | 17:28 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, are you in the bootloader? | 17:28 |
mhall119 | didrocks: thursday's client 2 session is contact/calendar sync | 17:29 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, yeah, maybe fginther can | 17:29 |
didrocks | mhall119: that's not the second session, right? | 17:29 |
didrocks | mhall119: at 3 PM UTC | 17:29 |
MacSlow | sergiusens, no I want to get to it... as you said I've to "ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap=true" to get the newer recovery image flashed | 17:29 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, just in case if in bootloader -> fastboot; if in recovery or running system -> adb | 17:29 |
mhall119 | didrocks: there's nothing in client-2 at 1500 on Thursday | 17:30 |
sergiusens | MacSlow, so if cable and sw is failing I say power cycle and press both vol buttons | 17:30 |
mhall119 | didrocks: are you talking about Wednesday? | 17:30 |
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didrocks | mhall119: yeah, so please move the session that is now in conflict on wednesday 2 PM UTC (the webbrowser one) due to the session you moved (landing process rules) to this free slot | 17:31 |
didrocks | mhall119: would be way easier if I can move session on my track… | 17:31 |
mhall119 | didrocks: done | 17:32 |
didrocks | mhall119: thx | 17:32 |
mhall119 | didrocks: that meeting can be re-classifed as client track, then you'd be able to move it | 17:32 |
didrocks | mhall119: I would love, can you reclassify the 2 on my tracks? | 17:32 |
didrocks | (the 2 from thursday) | 17:32 |
mhall119 | didrocks: meetings from LP need to be renamed, otherwise if I change it in summit it'll just be changed back on the next import | 17:37 |
mhall119 | bfiller: pmcgowan: ^^ can we change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1303-apps-webbrowser and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1403-pim-sync to be client-1403-* named? | 17:38 |
didrocks | thanks mhall119, bfiller :) | 17:38 |
mhall119 | bfiller: might as well change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1311-apps-convergence too | 17:38 |
pmcgowan | mhall119, pim sync makes sense to switch, not sure browser does | 17:38 |
pmcgowan | convergence is fine | 17:39 |
pmcgowan | to switch | 17:39 |
bfiller | mhall119: fine with me, just send me a link to the new locations as I'm editing them today | 17:42 |
mhall119 | bfiller: location is the same, except s/appdev/client/ | 17:42 |
mhall119 | pmcgowan: I think the browser session should be changed because app developers don't use the browser | 17:43 |
pmcgowan | mhall119, they will discuss the webview there,and the webapp container | 17:45 |
pmcgowan | mhall119, but up to you | 17:45 |
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robotfuel_ | sergiusens: I am downloading precise and will check phablet-network in a live session, if that works for you? | 17:53 |
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sergiusens | robotfuel_, sure; that should work | 17:53 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: a live cd/usb session. | 17:53 |
fginther | ahayzen, pong | 17:55 |
ahayzen | fginther, i see the clock and sudoku app are building on the PPA again, i believe we provided the same fix to the music-app is there any reason its PPA has not also been updated? | 17:55 |
fginther | ahayzen, checking | 17:56 |
ahayzen | fginther, thanks | 17:57 |
seb128 | awe__, cyphermox, rsalveti: hey, do you know if ofono provides what we need for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1287267 or if that's being worked on? | 17:58 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1287267 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) ""Data usage statistics" not shown" [Low,Triaged] | 17:58 |
awe__ | seb128, no this isn't being worked on atm | 18:00 |
mhall119 | pmcgowan: I've gone ahead and change the webbrowser session to client- too, if for no other reason than to let didrocks control it's schedule placement in his room | 18:00 |
pmcgowan | mhall119, fine | 18:00 |
awe__ | seb128, I'll update the bug wrt to ofono and it's capabilities | 18:00 |
seb128 | awe__, ok, is there a roadmap for the ofono work? can we get it added somewhere? (or just the bug triaged) | 18:00 |
seb128 | awe__, thanks | 18:01 |
fginther | ahayzen, the version number went backwards. It was 1.2ubuntu2, then it went to 1.2 and now it's 1.2ubuntu1. The version in the PPA is based on 1.2ubuntu2. | 18:03 |
ahayzen | fginther, so if we bump to 1.2ubuntu3 ? it'll be rebuilt? | 18:04 |
popey | heh, oops | 18:04 |
fginther | ahayzen, yes. 1.2ubuntu2 should also work | 18:04 |
popey | thanks fginther | 18:04 |
ahayzen | fginther, thanks | 18:04 |
fginther | popey, ahayzen, you're welcome | 18:04 |
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ahayzen | fginther, popey, is this correct? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/bump-version-1.2ubuntu2/+merge/210275 | 18:15 |
popey | lgtm | 18:16 |
fginther | ahayzen, +1 | 18:16 |
ahayzen | popey, can u approve it if so :) | 18:16 |
ahayzen | fginther, popey, thanks guys :) | 18:17 |
popey | sho thang | 18:17 |
popey | done | 18:17 |
henno | how can i signal the address-book-app to reload contacts? or am i doing somethin gwrong when using sync-evolution? | 18:18 |
henno | is there a dbus signal i could send to the app ? | 18:19 |
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ahayzen | new music app has landed in the PPA \o/ thanks fginther, popey | 18:35 |
fginther | ahayzen, excellent | 18:35 |
arnyekheja | hello | 18:53 |
arnyekheja | tudvalaki segiteni hogy egy "Prestigio 5300 duo ,53coll -os telefonra mikor lehet felakni a ubuntut | 18:54 |
arnyekheja | ? | 18:54 |
arnyekheja | 5,3" | 18:55 |
genii | That seemed quite cryptic. | 18:57 |
slangasek | Hungarian usually is | 18:57 |
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aquarius | has the new image been promoted to trusty, or is it in trusty-danger-will-robinson or something? | 20:18 |
nhaines | aquarius: if by "new image" you mean "old image from Friday", then the answer is a resounding yes. | 20:19 |
aquarius | friday? blimey :) | 20:19 |
nhaines | That's r226. :) | 20:19 |
aquarius | I could have upgraded over the weekend ifI'd known that! | 20:19 |
nhaines | You could've! :) | 20:19 |
aquarius | the Ubuntu Dual Boot android app doesn't show me what's *available*, just what I *have* | 20:19 |
aquarius | (I have 194) | 20:19 |
* aquarius uninstalls ubuntu with the android app, and yet preserves user data, hooray | 20:20 | |
aquarius | does the r226 handle doing system upgrades from Ubuntu while being a dual boot? or is that work still pending? | 20:20 |
* aquarius installs from the trusty channel | 20:21 | |
nhaines | aquarius: hmm. Good question! I think that's still pending. | 20:23 |
aquarius | no worries | 20:23 |
aquarius | the android faffing about is not too much of a problem | 20:23 |
aquarius | but I am too chicken to dedicate my phone completely yet :) | 20:23 |
nhaines | I'm on the Nexus 5 so I use MultiROM Manager, and that now supports system upgrade from Ubuntu, so I'm happy. :) | 20:23 |
nhaines | Sometimes youw want Google Navigation. :) | 20:23 |
Tassadar | dammit, my s-i.tasemnice.eu generated the new devel image with wrong version number | 20:23 |
aquarius | well, working bluetooth, but yeah :P | 20:23 |
popey | aquarius: the image was built on friday but not promoted till today | 20:24 |
aquarius | popey, aha, cool | 20:24 |
nhaines | I'm still a little appalled that no one seems concerned by the lack of working Bluetooth on Ubuntu. :P | 20:24 |
aquarius | nhaines, well, bluetooth works fine on my desktop | 20:24 |
aquarius | just not on my phone, yet. | 20:24 |
aquarius | I am assuming it's being worked on | 20:25 |
aquarius | but there's lots to do, and it's not the most critical thing | 20:25 |
nhaines | aquarius: actually, I think trusty broke everything on my laptop. I should probably recheck now that there's been kernel updates. | 20:25 |
cyphermox | nhaines: I am concerned, it's just not simple | 20:25 |
nhaines | Bluetooth is kind of a critical thing if you want to ship phones. :) | 20:25 |
* aquarius nods. I trust cyphermox :) | 20:26 | |
nhaines | cyphermox: if it were simple it would have been fixed last July. As long as there's concern and work, I'm happy. :) | 20:26 |
cyphermox | nhaines: yes, it would have been fixed in july ;) | 20:26 |
nhaines | Maybe Meizu or BQ will throw money at it. That'd be nice. | 20:26 |
genii | It would also be nice if they released a 64 or 128 G version which wasn't specific to Chinese frequency ranges | 20:27 |
nhaines | genii: I suppose we'll have to wait and see what the Ubuntu devices look like. :) | 20:32 |
genii | I figure the first MX3 will have to be 32G international models | 20:33 |
aquarius | yay I have Update Manager back again! | 20:34 |
nhaines | aquarius: wouldn't it be more fun to just uninstall and reinstall apps randomly to see if they've updated? | 20:37 |
aquarius | Hm. Because I'm dual-booting, I did the "downgrade the android radio to 4.2" thing. didrocks's promotion email says that it's now using android 4.4 for hardware, so.... should I reverse that process now? | 20:38 |
aquarius | Also, a question. Spell checking, auto completion, and word suggestions are turned off in System Settings > Language and Text. Is that because I have an old image which has been upgraded, or are they supposed to be off by default because they're not ready yet? | 20:42 |
nhaines | aquarius: yes you should probably go back to the 4.4 radio. | 20:43 |
nhaines | Language settings aren't ready yet, but I think I read where they are happy to have testers. | 20:43 |
aquarius | nhaines, are there instructions around for going back to the 4.4 radio? | 20:47 |
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nhaines | aquarius: no, but it's basically the same thing you did to get the 4.2 radio, except you extract it from the 4.4 image. :) | 20:52 |
popey | aquarius: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06840.html | 20:56 |
dansuf | Hi, I am trying to build working kernel for my device using the brunch command. I want to change the compression of the initramfs from gzip to something else to check if it would solve kernel panics. How can I do it? | 21:01 |
aquarius | popey, oh, nice, there's a new version of the android thing? COol | 21:06 |
aquarius | popey, is Alex Kaluzhny on irc? I don't know him/her | 21:10 |
popey | aquarius: alexkaluzhny | 21:10 |
aquarius | ah, easy enough :) | 21:10 |
Tassadar | hmm, did the 226 trusty image get promoted correctly? Like, wasn't it accidentally version 207 and then got changed? I'm trying to find out why my s-i server marked it as 207 instead of 226 | 21:12 |
popey | no, its certainly 226 | 21:13 |
Tassadar | hm, I just don't see how it could've used 207 Oo well, I've fixed it manually now and added some more logs, we'll see when the next image gets to devel | 21:16 |
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cwayne | plars: just to make sure i'm doing the right thing trying to reprouce the uitoolkit stuff -- is phablet-click-test-setup and then phablet-test-run ubuntuuitoolkit close enough to what is done by jenkins? | 21:21 |
plars | cwayne: I believe that one also installs the -autopilot package | 21:23 |
plars | cwayne: and we enable writable image | 21:23 |
plars | cwayne: so you'd also want to do that with phablet-config | 21:24 |
cwayne | plars: so phablet-config writable-image and then apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot? | 21:24 |
plars | cwayne: sounds about right | 21:25 |
cwayne | plars: i'll give that a shot then | 21:26 |
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gntuna | I am trying to put Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus, but when I get to the point of "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap" I get an error message saying "Device is |tuna| Device tuna not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel devel" I don't quite understand because this variant I have is maguro 16GB. Is It still possible to put on Ubuntu Touch? | 22:48 |
sergiusens | gntuna, add --device maguro to the cli | 22:52 |
gntuna | Thanks so much :) | 22:53 |
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cwayne | plars: so good news and bad news! good news: I'm *finally* able to reproduce the hang! the bad news: it didn't really help me figure out what's going on | 23:03 |
cwayne | also doesn't make sense to me how it happens all the time on the dashboard, but I had to try multiple times to repro.. | 23:04 |
cwayne | heh, and now to check that it was indeed hanged i picked up the phone nad scrolled, and now it seems the tests picked up where they left off | 23:05 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: phablet-tools depends on a package call click but it's not installable in precise. | 23:11 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: am I missing a ppa? | 23:11 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: I apt-added the ppa:phablet-team/tools | 23:12 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, the ubuntu sdk ppa | 23:18 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, it's fixed in an unmerged branch under review | 23:19 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: my phablet-network MP works in a precise live USB session, I was just doing some exploratory testing while I had it loaded... | 23:20 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, awesome | 23:21 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, were you fixing gallery tests btw? | 23:21 |
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robotfuel_ | sergiusens: no I don't know about gallery tests, I have been working on upgrade testing using system-settings. | 23:22 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: I can take a look to see if it's easy to fix and do it if you have a bug | 23:22 |
robotfuel_ | sergiusens: I planned on starting with HWE testing tomorrow | 23:25 |
sergiusens | robotfuel_, nah, I recall you (and perhaps not) asking about gallery testing | 23:25 |
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sergiusens | there's a fix that need to happen which is rather dumb; but if someone was shifting and swapping test stuff; I wanted to piggyback on it | 23:26 |
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