[00:00] which means you only get "promoted" images - that is - tested [00:00] if you go for devel-proposed you may well get an image which is broken now and then [00:00] oh ok [00:00] worth subscribing to the ubuntu-phone mailing list, didier sends out updates about which images are good/bad [00:00] so as my first time I should use devel? [00:00] every day [00:01] 2014/03/09 18:01:22 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface... [00:01] 2014/03/09 18:01:22 exit status 255 [00:01] I am getting that [00:01] what device? [00:01] nexus4 [00:02] I am gonna make a Spin ball game using the Ubuntu Logo as a pinwheel to reflect balls out of the screen. It may serve as a nice promo piece and a fun game if the screen is not too small, we'll see.. [00:02] Is that Ok? [00:03] surgemcgee, sure it is. You can make whatever apps you want :) [00:03] surgemcgee: you can ping the trademarks people, but I doub't it's a problem [00:03] cool, cool [00:04] What channel is the trademark people? [00:04] popey: would you use devel then? [00:04] what's saucy trusty and devel? [00:04] what does that mean [00:05] surgemcgee, http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-rights-policy/contact-us [00:06] although I really don't think there'll be a problem :) [00:07] 2014/03/09 18:05:47 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting [00:07] and nothing is happening in my phone [00:07] n-iCe: i use both [00:08] (I have two Nexus 4s) [00:08] n-iCe: what state is the phone in right now? (It should be in bootloader - press power + voldown from off) [00:12] done rebooted manually [00:13] kthanks popey [00:13] so dialy I should go and update? [00:13] how do I go back if an image is broken? [00:16] reflash with ubuntu-device-image [00:16] oh [00:16] but no way to do it without a pc? [00:17] Ok I have Ubuntu phone OS now running in my device :) [00:18] n-iCe: yeah, you can do it in the terminal on the device [00:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Further_Examples [00:18] system-image-cli is the command line tool on the device [00:19] where do I install apps [00:19] can't find [00:19] Where do I go to download the source for the 4.4.2 phablet-trusty branch? [00:20] n-iCe: go to settings -> accounts, sign in to an ubuntu one account [00:20] then new apps will show up in the dash [00:20] n-iCe: There isn't an app store, but once you enable wifi, all installable apps will be shown under Suggested apps on the Applications tab of the home screen [00:39] thanks === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === dlan__ is now known as dlan^ === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === jtzl_ is now known as jtzl === vying is now known as Guest7161 [07:20] good morning === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:33] hi [07:34] group1: hi [07:34] hi [08:41] Hi, I just installed ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus, but it's not connect my carrier. How do i solve that? [08:58] is no WiFi (as in the device doesn't seem to be there) on mako with latest image a known issue? [08:59] hmm it's back after a reboot [08:59] Saviq, i only run 228 here (pre-last) but there were no changes in 229 apart from a new clock app [09:00] and it works fine here [09:00] ogra_, yeah, back after a reboot, will report back if I encounter it again (I did see some kernel fail in dmesg before rebooting, maybe related) [09:01] smells like, yeah [09:15] Saviq: ogra_ i see no wifi after flashing on #229 on mako too [09:15] however it is actually connected [09:15] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=93.7 ms [09:15] wlan0 802-11-wireless connected [09:16] * popey files bug [09:17] funny, we didnt have any significany changes since 227 [09:19] hmm, there seems to be an lxc change to support wlan devices [09:19] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day of Awesomeness! :-D [09:21] ogra_: Saviq bug 1290275 [09:21] bug 1290275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Network indicator shows no networks, but network is connected mako #229" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290275 [09:21] popey, mine was different - nm-tool didn't even show the device... [09:22] ooh [09:51] how to find html5 ubuntu apis [09:54] anybody there??? [09:54] sridhar_, try develope.ubuntu.com (and also the #ubuntu-app-devel channel) [09:54] oops [09:54] *developer.ubuntu.com [10:00] but its slow low on docs developer.ubuntu.com [10:00] how to check the sdk version installed [10:00] anyone knows to check the ubunu sdk version installed ???? [10:02] sridhar_, as i said above, the #ubuntu-app-devel channel is probably the better place to ask === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-afk === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:00] Morning all [11:21] where are images downloaded by ubuntu-device-flash stored? [11:21] I used to have ~/Download/phablet-flash (or something like that) where phablet-flash stored its files [11:24] t1mp: ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/ is what appears in the trace when you are flashing it. [11:39] didrocks: that seems tricky. I always deleted the images manually after the directory got too big and when it is "hidden" it can start to fill people's disks space [11:39] t1mp: time to open a bug for sergio I guess :) [11:40] bug 1157710 [11:40] bug 1157710 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash needs a cleanup option to remove old images" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157710 [11:40] ☻ [11:40] That'll be a year old in a week or so [11:42] popey: you are so much ahead of us :) [11:42] luckily phablet-flash is deprecated since months :) [11:42] popey: but now that the directory is hidden, I think the importance became higher than "Wishlist" [11:42] the same issue is apparent in udf [11:42] +1 [11:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1157710 [11:43] popey, so someone should open a task for it on that bug [11:43] Ubuntu bug 1157710 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash needs a cleanup option to remove old images" [Wishlist,In progress] [11:43] there we go [11:44] thanks [11:44] np [11:44] i doubt sergio looks at old phablet-flash bugs [11:44] it is dead and buried === awafaa_ is now known as awafaa === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:41] ogra_: depends does it do the same thing with the new tool? [12:43] ogra_: I certainly see 5 for mako, 2 for manta and 3 for flo === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:53] Hi everybody [12:54] Someone here that can help my in some porting? [12:57] Corvus_: you are best of talking about the issues you are having rather than as generally as that. p.s. don't look at me for it either :) [12:58] sorry for the delay, was doing some testing [12:58] ok, lets start [12:58] i have experience porting android and FFOS [12:59] i have a mobile phone with and x86 processor [12:59] similar to Lenovo K900 [12:59] i have all sources [13:00] It's not ported to cm, it's all aosp, but i patched de aosp build, and it finish building [13:00] Mi problem is not that it tries to boot, but it stalls in spash screen [13:01] i try to connect with adb and adb devices said me that is offline (with a serial number) [13:01] so i dont have adb :( [13:03] i try to get some logs from /proc/last_kmsg but i to enter recovery mode i need to use a fastboot menu, so the last_kmsg is from this fastboot boot and i dont have any way to enter to recovery directly :( [13:03] Like i said i have experience with android and FFOS, but i dont have it with touch, [13:04] i just know that there is two ways of booting with flipped or legacy [13:05] I try too to get some kernel booting in the scren but without success [13:06] any way that i can get logs to see what is happening or more info of how this works (links or anything that i can follow) [13:06] = [13:06] ? [13:08] maybe a problem with cmdline? is root needed for touch to work? [13:08] i'm using legacy mode with chroot in /data/ubuntu, === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [14:12] rsalveti: hi, the mobile data work on the deb build [14:12] (according to at least two people on XDA) === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [14:31] what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ??? [14:32] plz help [14:33] what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ??? [14:35] what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ??? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:54] plars: ping [14:54] cwayne: hi [14:55] plars: so i did a phablet-test-run on the customized image about 5 times, and can't reproduce the hang at all [14:55] cwayne: strange - didn't you say on friday that you were seeing why it was hanging? [14:56] no, i said i saw a lot of failures, but not hangs [14:57] cwayne: we see it with pretty much every single run on the custom image, but nowhere else [14:59] cwayne: bzoltan maybe has some idea why the test is getting stuck? ( http://q-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/trusty-touch_custom-mako-smoke-daily/62/consoleFull - search for "testing ubuntuuitoolkit" ) [15:03] pmcgowan: ping [15:03] hey nik90 [15:03] pmcgowan: hey, can you check if you can reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283212 in the latest #228 or @229 image? [15:03] Ubuntu bug 1283212 in Ubuntu Clock App "Unable to edit single type alarms and update them" [High,Confirmed] [15:03] I think 229 is latest..anyways you should know [15:03] nik90, sure will check it === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [15:11] plars: seems to fail here: 07:37:36.114 INFO globals:58 - Starting test ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.test_emulators.QQuickListViewTestCase.test_click_element_outside_view_below === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === vying is now known as Guest3434 === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:31] ogra_, sergiusens, are maguro images still built (and published elsewhere) or did we stop entirely? [15:31] dholbach, i think we are still rolling the dailies (trusty-proposed), but we dont promote any of these to the trusty channel [15:32] so for people on the trsuty channel 188 (or so) is the last image [15:33] /dev/loop0 on / type ext2 (ro,relatime,errors=continue) [15:33] on my nexus 7 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:34] # mount -o remount, rw / [15:34] fixed apt-get update errors [15:37] DJJeff: that's by design, updating is done by OTA updates, not apt-get [15:40] Tassadar: great! [15:40] are you gonna add it to s-i.ubuntu.com? [15:41] Tassadar: yup, once the patches are reviewed I'll do another android upload enabling the additional target [15:42] sergiusens: ^^ seems the deb patches are fine [15:43] well we wont add it to s-i [15:43] but to cdimage we can :) [15:43] the screen would not even turn on until I mounted as RW thats odd [15:44] ogra_: why not to s-i? [15:44] rsalveti, dunno, same reason as hammerhead i think [15:44] ogra_: and what is the reason? [15:45] we dont officially support it [15:45] well, we have grouper there :-) [15:45] which i dont know why :) [15:45] as we only officially supporting flashing devices using system-image, this sounds a bit weird [15:45] i thought only supported images go to s-i [15:46] for other images it costs us nothing to produce cdimage img files, s-i imports cost time though [15:46] (additional ones) [15:46] sure, but don't remember when we decided to do this [15:46] we didnt [15:47] asac did :) [15:47] right, don't remember about that either [15:47] ubuntu touch is still far from stable [15:47] but anyway, community can still enable their own server I guess [15:47] *sigh* [15:47] I have the images on s-i.tasemnice.eu already [15:47] he only wanted official arches on s-i [15:47] ogra_: then we should drop grouper [15:48] if thats not the case anymore i'm happy to have it [15:48] yeah, definitely [15:48] not sure why it is still there [15:48] because it still works I guess [15:48] DJJeff, its rock solid for me [15:48] DJJeff, its not designed for apt ... just dont use it :) [15:49] (well, for upgrading via apt ... you can install single packages but that breaks OTA upgrading so you got to keep the pieces) [15:50] going from the home screen to Videos and screen locks up [15:53] mhall119, so, the alarm clock doesn't seem to be working perfectly [15:53] I can'd edit or turn off an alarm, for example === gustavold1 is now known as gustavold [15:57] nik90, still happens in 229 [15:58] rickspencer3, yes known issues [15:58] nik90, is that down in qtorganizer-eds? [15:58] thanks pmcgowan [15:59] pmcgowan: renato: popey: any idea why we can't import google contacts anymore by following http://askubuntu.com/questions/360554/how-do-i-sync-google-contacts ? [15:59] rsalveti, no that should work I think, it did a few builds back [16:00] pmcgowan: right, broken with latest [16:00] rsalveti, hmm, i think i saw someone else asking the same today [16:00] well, the alarm worked, at least, so that's a good start [16:00] rickspencer3, still not setting in the hw though, thats the last bit [16:01] pmcgowan, not sure what you mean [16:01] [INFO] addressbook: looking for databases... [16:01] [INFO] addressbook: okay [16:01] Gkr: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files [16:01] phone ML, subject: "[Ubuntu-phone] Google Contacts Sync" [16:01] from yesterday morning [16:02] yeah, same what I got here [16:02] rickspencer3, the upper layer sees the alarm and does the notification, but will not work if suspended [16:02] rsalveti, xnox dropped dbus-x11 from the image [16:02] pmcgowan, ah, gotcha [16:02] i wonder if the import tools try to use it [16:02] sounds like an eds thing :) [16:02] sync-evolution change? [16:03] pmcgowan, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140308.changes .... [16:03] no syncevolution ... but dbus-x11 dropping [16:04] stgraber, we seem to see some random wlan issues with recent images, is there something new in lxc that needs overriding ? [16:04] Hi. Is it possible to trigger address-book-app to reload/update contacts after a successful sync with owncloud using syncevolution? [16:05] ogra_, bfiller thinks a new sync-evolution went in friday [16:05] Laney: when did that synevo land? [16:06] yeah friday [16:06] ogra_: nope, ubuntu-touch actually turns off all the network features of LXC and just use the host network namespace directly [16:06] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/syncevolution [16:06] ogra_: what issues? [16:07] hm, major version bump [16:07] rsalveti, Mirv re the qtwebkit fix we did for DPR, have you looked into applying that for 5.2? [16:08] pmcgowan: the big revert patch? I think Mirv tried applying it but got many conflicts [16:08] rsalveti, popey and Saviq independently had different ones ... while a device was up for popey but no networks were showing in the UI, Saviq had no wlan networking at all [16:09] rsalveti, Mirv we hit a bit of a wall on the real fix to use the new res ind support [16:09] pmcgowan: it seems kaleo and ricmm were able to get the last remaining issues with unity-mir fixed last friday [16:09] rsalveti, both with the latest image right after upgrading [16:09] rsalveti, there is still an issue [16:09] rsalveti, which may not be solvable short term [16:09] pmcgowan: hm, which one? [16:10] rsalveti, the edge gesture not working, and shell not using all horizontal pixels [16:10] ogra_: need more info, like dmesg and such [16:10] rsalveti, due to the way Qt is doing it, we lose accuracy on real pixels [16:10] rsalveti, yeah [16:10] rsalveti, so need to also look at the old patch again [16:11] pmcgowan: oh, hm [16:11] rsalveti, bug 1290275 ... not much there either [16:11] bug 1290275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Network indicator shows no networks, but network is connected mako #229" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290275 [16:11] and i think Saviq didnt file one [16:11] ogra_, no, I didn't, couldn't reproduce - after a reboot the issue was gon [16:11] maybe a bug with the newer nm? [16:11] e [16:12] OMG! My alarm just rang... while suspended! [16:12] kenvandine: not fully suspended [16:12] the joy... i never thought i'd be so excited to hear an alarm :) [16:12] rsalveti, ah, so there are multiple states? [16:12] sorry to disappoint you [16:12] haha :) [16:12] huge progress [16:12] nah, broken [16:12] :P [16:12] i hadn't touched my phone in at least 5m [16:12] kenvandine: mako takes a while to go into deep suspend [16:12] then it rang... [16:13] there's one annoying wakelock (radio) making it not to go into deep sleep [16:13] still a huge step... so anxious for alarms [16:13] now to get it using a different sound for alarms [16:14] sorry guys:! [16:14] hey Kaleo [16:14] pmcgowan, do you know if there are plans to be able to change the alarm sound? [16:15] kenvandine: yes that's the plan..the Alarms API has support for it [16:15] pls be dconf key [16:15] nik90, is that a clock config thing? [16:15] pmcgowan: well I just tested a branch provided to me by zsombi which fixes the edit single alarm issue [16:15] i don't recall seeing that on the settings spec, i'd think that would be another category in system-settings [16:15] nik90, cool, guess we need that to land [16:15] i think you should be able to choose it from the clock app too [16:15] bfiller: pmcgowan: can we get someone that knows more about evolution to find a way to import google contacts? [16:15] that's really useful [16:15] but i think there should be a setting for the "default alarm sound" [16:15] in settings [16:15] pmcgowan: we don't have a design for the alarm sounds yet but it is definitely in the roadmap [16:16] I could see it being in the settings sounds [16:16] rsalveti: we're quite close to having contact sync working with sync evo so it will just work [16:16] rsalveti: but in the meantime I'll ask renato to see why it stopped working [16:16] bfiller: cool, thanks [16:17] rickspencer3: sorry, those are known alarm issues which are being worked on [16:17] thanks for the heads up nik90 [16:18] nik90, it is just soooo exciting to get an alarm :) [16:18] kenvandine: well trust me I am more excited than everyone to get alarms working up to this point :D [16:20] mhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ [16:21] mhall119: dpm: hey, I'm unsure why we have some app development session in the client track [16:21] mhall119: dpm: can you move them back in the app developer tracks? Seems like you have some free slots at the same time [16:22] didrocks, we put them in there because they're actually client sessions that were filed as appdev sessions [16:22] dpm: I can't even reschedule them properly as they are not part of my track [16:26] didrocks, we need an admin to change their type from appdev- to client-. If I'm not mistaken on how summit works, mhall119 can do that. In the meantime I can move some of the sessions out of the way for you so you can reschedule [16:26] dpm: ok, will tell you then :) [16:27] ok :) [16:29] bfiller: i dont suppose theres any plan to have the ubuntuuitoolkit gallery packaged as a click? [16:31] cwayne, its open source ;) [16:31] lol [16:32] didrocks: thanks for the birthday present :) [16:32] r226 is lovely [16:32] mhall119: ahah, it was all planned from the beginning \o/ [16:32] had to retained an image for 2 weeks and half just for yo! [16:32] you* [16:32] heh, glad to know I'm that important :) [16:33] mhall119: heh, this is called "dedication" :) [16:35] * genii slides Hashcode a coffee and a Motorola Photon G with Cornholio hardware mod [16:35] didrocks: Oh so it's all mhall119 faulty that the images were broken then, That comes as absolutely no surprise to me ;) [16:36] * Hashcode would probably need more than 1 coffee. [16:36] Hashcode: :D [16:36] s/faulty/fault :) [16:37] genii did someone put out an Ubuntu Touch for the Photon 4G? [16:37] Hashcode: Not that I know of yet, but then again it's a limited market with the stock models and embedded SIM .... [16:38] ah [16:38] mhall119: can you have an unofficial daily birthday so we can get back to regular promotion waiting another 12 months for your birthday to come round again won't be fun :D [16:39] Hashcode: I actually pretty much have given up on any more decent QWERTY phones and resigned myself to purchasing a Nexus 4 [16:39] davmor2: we had daily promotion before, didrocks just stopped them to lower my expectations in the lead up to my birthday [16:40] genii: yeah the future for hard keyboard is pretty dim [16:40] he's social-engineering our relationship [16:40] mhall119: hehe :) [16:40] I still have my Droid 4 :/ [16:41] Hashcode: Are you still working on Touch for Droid 4? Because I can pick one up pretty cheap here to tinker with [16:41] genii: I've been "slacking" lately [16:42] Hashcode: Yes, I understand [16:42] mhall119, so you and jcastro share the same birthday ? [16:42] genii: Playing w/ a k3.14 Android build up for the KFire [16:44] mhall119: damned, where is my mask now? :) [16:44] ogra_: mine was yesterday, so technically didrocks was late with my present, but I'll forgive him because it was on a Sunday [16:44] haha [16:44] mhall119, happy belated b-day then :) [16:44] thanks :) [16:44] mhall119: come on, you asked me to block everyone for 2 weeks and half just for you, and you are asking me to work on Sunday? :) [16:44] tsss people [16:44] no reward… :p [16:45] didrocks: if you *really* loved me, I wouldn't have to ask [16:45] didrocks, well, but it was a birthday present ... [16:45] mhall119: ahah [16:45] ogra_: come on, he's younger for a day and complain! :) [16:45] heh [16:47] mhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ [16:48] mhall119: happy day after birthday then dude :) Technically it was ready Friday but didrocks had to go paint a kitchen like that was important ;) Admittedly he is still alive to release it today so probably the wiser decision :) [16:49] work suggestions on the OSK are great, but when it doesn't like what I've typed there's no way for me to tell it to accept it anyway? [16:49] davmor2: yeah, we are kitchen-date driven for promotion :) [16:49] the final release will be in 2 weeks then [16:49] :) [16:49] cwayne: what track should this be on? [16:49] client? [16:50] the kitchen track? :) [16:50] didrocks: \o/ then we can sun and surf for the rest of the release right? [16:50] either client or core i'd think? [16:50] davmor2: or start cooking :) [16:50] didrocks: we have a hallway track....but that's as far as we've gotten [16:50] ahah :) [16:50] cwayne: pick one, put your proposed meeting on that, and bug a track lead [16:50] cwayne: track leads are listed on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/tracks [16:51] mhall119: thanks :) [16:53] slangasek: hi, was wondering how to get http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ scheduled [16:53] cwayne: isn't this a duplicate of the blueprint ogra already created? [16:54] cwayne: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22219/core-1403-hardware-handling-touch/ [16:54] slangasek: no, that's for getting hw-specific bits out of the rootfs and into the device tarball, this is more for carrier customizations [16:54] ah [16:54] slangasek, mine is solely HW porting related [16:54] so related, but different :) [16:54] cwayne: ok, so is there a reason yours is not registered as a blueprint? [16:55] if you're expecting this discussion to lead to any work items across Ubuntu Core, please register it as a blueprint instead of directly in summit [16:55] mandel, do you have an idea why an image-update from 194 to 226 might not work... the image was downloaded and installed, but the "about device"-page (or system-image-cli) still reports 194 to be installed. [16:56] slangasek: i'd be surprised if any work items were assigned outside my team, but happy to register a bp [16:56] mandel, hm... oddly... now it worked on the nexus4... but still not after three attempts on the nexus10 [16:57] cwayne: if you guys are doing all the work, then there's no need from our side for a blueprint :) I'll get it registered [16:57] didrocks: I had to bump a client session off the schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22174/core-1403-landing-process-touch/ [16:57] didrocks: to make room for mark's keynote [16:57] so it'll need to be re-scheduled [16:57] slangasek: lovely, thank you :) [16:57] mhall119: hum, this one was agreed to be at that time for asac [16:58] mhall119, or you could ask mark to talk about the touch landing process [16:58] :) [16:58] then it fits again [16:58] mhall119: he's on holidays and already talked about it [16:58] on the phone ML [16:58] mhall119, didrocks: I've rescheduled it for the last slot on wednesday [16:58] (but, sigh) [16:58] slangasek: last slot? wasn't it there already? [16:58] slangasek: 1900 slot on wednesday is a plenary now [16:58] didrocks: s/last slot/last remaining slot/ [16:59] so in fact it's now in the /first/ slot ;) [16:59] mhall119: I thought the schedule wasn't going to change :/ [16:59] I'm happy it's in the first slot, but would be nice if mhall119 would talk abou it [16:59] didrocks: it's a sabdfl change [16:59] and ensure asac will come :) [17:00] asac: sorry about the late change, can you make the new time on that session? [17:00] mhall119: he's on holidays [17:00] and will only come back for that day [17:00] let's hope he will be back in time… [17:01] didrocks: I'll email him, hopefully he's checking email [17:01] mhall119: thanks [17:01] mhall119: however, can you take the session in client 2 at the same time and put it at the app developer2. [17:01] mhall119: I can't be in 2 hangouts :p [17:01] not with that attitude you can't [17:03] didrocks: the webbrowser one? [17:03] mhall119: yeah [17:03] mhall119: I'll email the ML as well about the change [17:15] MacSlow, no idea, we do know there is a bug we want to fix but we are blocked by the qt 5.2 change [17:15] mandel, ok [17:15] MacSlow, those 3 attemps might be due to that [17:15] MacSlow, were you doing a manual check for updates? [17:15] mandel, just odd that it worked on the N4 but not on the n10 [17:16] MacSlow, it is indeed strange, specially because the code is the same, it is not a bad idea to file a bug and ping barry too [17:17] mandel, I will [17:18] MacSlow, do you have the proper recovery image installed btw ? the new images have a rotating ubuntu circle of friends when applying the update [17:18]