[00:00] <popey> which means you only get "promoted" images - that is - tested
[00:00] <popey> if you go for devel-proposed you may well get an image which is broken now and then
[00:00] <n-iCe> oh ok
[00:00] <popey> worth subscribing to the ubuntu-phone mailing list, didier sends out updates about which images are good/bad
[00:00] <n-iCe> so as my first time I should use devel?
[00:00] <popey> every day
[00:01] <n-iCe> 2014/03/09 18:01:22 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...
[00:01] <n-iCe> 2014/03/09 18:01:22 exit status 255
[00:01] <n-iCe> I am getting that
[00:01] <popey> what device?
[00:01] <n-iCe> nexus4
[00:02] <surgemcgee> I am gonna make a Spin ball game using the Ubuntu Logo as a pinwheel to reflect balls out of the screen. It may serve as a nice promo piece and a fun game if the screen is not too small, we'll see..
[00:02] <surgemcgee> Is that Ok?
[00:03] <aquarius> surgemcgee, sure it is. You can make whatever apps you want :)
[00:03] <popey> surgemcgee: you can ping the trademarks people, but I doub't it's a problem
[00:03] <surgemcgee> cool, cool
[00:04] <surgemcgee> What channel is the trademark people?
[00:04] <n-iCe> popey: would you use devel then?
[00:04] <n-iCe> what's saucy trusty and devel?
[00:04] <n-iCe> what does that mean
[00:05] <aquarius> surgemcgee, http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-rights-policy/contact-us
[00:06] <aquarius> although I really don't think there'll be a problem :)
[00:07] <n-iCe> 2014/03/09 18:05:47 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
[00:07] <n-iCe> and nothing is happening in my phone
[00:07] <popey> n-iCe: i use both
[00:08] <popey> (I have two Nexus 4s)
[00:08] <popey> n-iCe: what state is the phone in right now? (It should be in bootloader - press power + voldown from off)
[00:12] <n-iCe> done rebooted manually
[00:13] <n-iCe> kthanks popey
[00:13] <n-iCe> so dialy I should go and update?
[00:13] <n-iCe> how do I go back if an image is broken?
[00:16] <popey> reflash with ubuntu-device-image
[00:16] <n-iCe> oh
[00:16] <n-iCe> but no way to do it without a pc?
[00:17] <n-iCe> Ok I have Ubuntu phone OS now running in my device :)
[00:18] <popey> n-iCe: yeah, you can do it in the terminal on the device
[00:18] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Further_Examples
[00:18] <popey> system-image-cli is the command line tool on the device
[00:19] <n-iCe> where do I install apps
[00:19] <n-iCe> can't find
[00:19] <r3pwn> Where do I go to download the source for the 4.4.2 phablet-trusty branch?
[00:20] <popey> n-iCe: go to settings -> accounts, sign in to an ubuntu one account
[00:20] <popey> then new apps will show up in the dash
[00:20] <r3pwn> n-iCe: There isn't an app store, but once you enable wifi, all installable apps will be shown under Suggested apps on the Applications tab of the home screen
[00:39] <n-iCe> thanks
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[07:33] <group1> hi
[07:34] <nhaines> group1: hi
[07:34] <group1> hi
[08:41] <OliTouch> Hi, I just installed ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus, but it's not connect my carrier. How do i solve that?
[08:58] <Saviq> is no WiFi (as in the device doesn't seem to be there) on mako with latest image a known issue?
[08:59] <Saviq> hmm it's back after a reboot
[08:59] <ogra_> Saviq, i only run 228 here (pre-last) but there were no changes in 229 apart from a new clock app
[09:00] <ogra_> and it works fine here
[09:00] <Saviq> ogra_, yeah, back after a reboot, will report back if I encounter it again (I did see some kernel fail in dmesg before rebooting, maybe related)
[09:01] <ogra_> smells like, yeah
[09:15] <popey> Saviq: ogra_ i see no wifi after flashing on #229  on mako too
[09:15] <popey> however it is actually connected
[09:15] <popey> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=93.7 ms
[09:15] <popey> wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[09:16]  * popey files bug
[09:17] <ogra_> funny, we didnt have any significany changes since 227
[09:19] <ogra_> hmm, there seems to be an lxc change to support wlan devices
[09:19] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day of Awesomeness! :-D
[09:21] <popey> ogra_: Saviq bug 1290275
[09:21] <Saviq> popey, mine was different - nm-tool didn't even show the device...
[09:22] <popey> ooh
[09:51] <sridhar_> how to find html5 ubuntu apis
[09:54] <sridhar_> anybody there???
[09:54] <ogra_> sridhar_, try develope.ubuntu.com (and also the #ubuntu-app-devel channel)
[09:54] <ogra_> oops
[09:54] <ogra_> *developer.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <sridhar_> but its slow low on docs developer.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <sridhar_> how to check the sdk version installed
[10:00] <sridhar_> anyone knows to check the ubunu sdk version installed ????
[10:02] <ogra_> sridhar_, as i said above, the #ubuntu-app-devel channel is probably the better place to ask
[11:00] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:21] <t1mp> where are images downloaded by ubuntu-device-flash stored?
[11:21] <t1mp> I used to have ~/Download/phablet-flash (or something like that) where phablet-flash stored its files
[11:24] <didrocks> t1mp: ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/ is what appears in the trace when you are flashing it.
[11:39] <t1mp> didrocks: that seems tricky. I always deleted the images manually after the directory got too big and when it is "hidden" it can start to fill people's disks space
[11:39] <didrocks> t1mp: time to open a bug for sergio I guess :)
[11:40] <popey> bug 1157710
[11:40] <popey> ☻
[11:40] <popey> That'll be a year old in a week or so
[11:42] <t1mp> popey: you are so much ahead of us :)
[11:42] <ogra_> luckily phablet-flash is deprecated since months :)
[11:42] <t1mp> popey: but now that the directory is hidden, I think the importance became higher than "Wishlist"
[11:42] <popey> the same issue is apparent in udf
[11:42] <popey> +1
[11:43] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1157710
[11:43] <ogra_> popey, so someone should open a task for it on that bug
[11:43] <popey> there we go
[11:44] <ogra_> thanks
[11:44] <popey> np
[11:44] <ogra_> i doubt sergio looks at old phablet-flash bugs
[11:44] <ogra_> it is dead and buried
[12:41] <davmor2> ogra_: depends does it do the same thing with the new tool?
[12:43] <davmor2> ogra_: I certainly see 5 for mako, 2 for manta and 3 for flo
[12:53] <Corvus_> Hi everybody
[12:54] <Corvus_> Someone here that can help my in some porting?
[12:57] <davmor2> Corvus_: you are best of talking about the issues you are having rather than as generally as that.  p.s. don't look at me for it either :)
[12:58] <Corvus_> sorry for the delay, was doing some testing
[12:58] <Corvus_> ok, lets start
[12:58] <Corvus_> i have experience porting android and FFOS
[12:59] <Corvus_> i have a mobile phone with and x86 processor
[12:59] <Corvus_> similar to Lenovo K900
[12:59] <Corvus_> i have all sources
[13:00] <Corvus_> It's not ported to cm, it's all aosp, but i patched de aosp build, and it finish building
[13:00] <Corvus_> Mi problem is not that it tries to boot, but it stalls in spash screen
[13:01] <Corvus_> i try to connect with adb and adb devices said me that is offline (with a serial number)
[13:01] <Corvus_> so i dont have adb :(
[13:03] <Corvus_> i try to get some logs from /proc/last_kmsg but i to enter recovery mode i need to use a fastboot menu, so the last_kmsg is from this fastboot boot and i dont have any way to enter to recovery directly :(
[13:03] <Corvus_> Like i said i have experience with android and FFOS, but i dont have it with touch,
[13:04] <Corvus_> i just know that there is two ways of booting with flipped or legacy
[13:05] <Corvus_> I try too to get some kernel booting in  the scren but without success
[13:06] <Corvus_> any way that i can get logs to see what is happening or more info of how this works (links or anything that i can follow)
[13:06] <Corvus_> =
[13:06] <Corvus_> ?
[13:08] <Corvus_> maybe a problem with cmdline? is root needed for touch to work?
[13:08] <Corvus_> i'm using legacy mode with chroot in /data/ubuntu,
[14:12] <Tassadar> rsalveti: hi, the mobile data work on the deb build
[14:12] <Tassadar> (according to at least two people on XDA)
[14:31] <sridhar_> what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ???
[14:32] <sridhar_> plz help
[14:33] <sridhar_> what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ???
[14:35] <sridhar_> what is the channel for ubuntu-devel ???
[14:54] <cwayne> plars: ping
[14:54] <plars> cwayne: hi
[14:55] <cwayne> plars: so i did a phablet-test-run on the customized image about 5 times, and can't reproduce the hang at all
[14:55] <plars> cwayne: strange - didn't you say on friday that you were seeing why it was hanging?
[14:56] <cwayne> no, i said i saw a lot of failures, but not hangs
[14:57] <plars> cwayne: we see it with pretty much every single run on the custom image, but nowhere else
[14:59] <plars> cwayne: bzoltan maybe has some idea why the test is getting stuck? ( http://q-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/trusty-touch_custom-mako-smoke-daily/62/consoleFull - search for "testing ubuntuuitoolkit" )
[15:03] <nik90> pmcgowan: ping
[15:03] <pmcgowan> hey nik90
[15:03] <nik90> pmcgowan: hey, can you check if you can reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283212 in the latest #228 or @229 image?
[15:03] <nik90> I think 229 is latest..anyways you should know
[15:03] <pmcgowan> nik90, sure will check it
[15:11] <cwayne> plars: seems to fail here: 07:37:36.114 INFO globals:58 - Starting test ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.test_emulators.QQuickListViewTestCase.test_click_element_outside_view_below
[15:31] <dholbach> ogra_, sergiusens, are maguro images still built (and published elsewhere) or did we stop entirely?
[15:31] <ogra_> dholbach, i think we are still rolling the dailies (trusty-proposed), but we dont promote any of these to the trusty channel
[15:32] <ogra_> so for people on the trsuty channel 188 (or so) is the last image
[15:33] <DJJeff>   /dev/loop0 on / type ext2 (ro,relatime,errors=continue)
[15:33] <DJJeff> on my nexus 7
[15:34] <DJJeff> # mount -o remount, rw /
[15:34] <DJJeff> fixed apt-get update errors
[15:37] <cwayne> DJJeff: that's by design, updating is done by OTA updates, not apt-get
[15:40] <rsalveti> Tassadar: great!
[15:40] <Tassadar> are you gonna add it to s-i.ubuntu.com?
[15:41] <rsalveti> Tassadar: yup, once the patches are reviewed I'll do another android upload enabling the additional target
[15:42] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ^^ seems the deb patches are fine
[15:43] <ogra_> well we wont add it to s-i
[15:43] <ogra_> but to cdimage we can :)
[15:43] <DJJeff> the screen would not even turn on until I mounted as RW thats odd
[15:44] <rsalveti> ogra_: why not to s-i?
[15:44] <ogra_> rsalveti, dunno, same reason as hammerhead i think
[15:44] <rsalveti> ogra_: and what is the reason?
[15:45] <ogra_> we dont officially support it
[15:45] <rsalveti> well, we have grouper there :-)
[15:45] <ogra_> which i dont know why :)
[15:45] <rsalveti> as we only officially supporting flashing devices using system-image, this sounds a bit weird
[15:45] <ogra_> i thought only supported images go to s-i
[15:46] <ogra_> for other images it costs us nothing to produce cdimage img files, s-i imports cost time though
[15:46] <ogra_> (additional ones)
[15:46] <rsalveti> sure, but don't remember when we decided to do this
[15:46] <ogra_> we didnt
[15:47] <ogra_> asac did :)
[15:47] <rsalveti> right, don't remember about that either
[15:47] <DJJeff> ubuntu touch is still far from stable
[15:47] <rsalveti> but anyway, community can still enable their own server I guess
[15:47] <DJJeff> *sigh*
[15:47] <Tassadar> I have the images on s-i.tasemnice.eu already
[15:47] <ogra_> he only wanted official arches on s-i
[15:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: then we should drop grouper
[15:48] <ogra_> if thats not the case anymore i'm happy to have it
[15:48] <ogra_> yeah, definitely
[15:48] <ogra_> not sure why it is still there
[15:48] <rsalveti> because it still works I guess
[15:48] <ogra_> DJJeff, its rock solid for me
[15:48] <ogra_> DJJeff, its not designed for apt ... just dont use it :)
[15:49] <ogra_> (well, for upgrading via apt ... you can install single packages but that breaks OTA upgrading so you got to keep the pieces)
[15:50] <DJJeff> going from the home screen to Videos and screen locks up
[15:53] <rickspencer3> mhall119, so, the alarm clock doesn't seem to be working perfectly
[15:53] <rickspencer3> I can'd edit or turn off an alarm, for example
[15:57] <pmcgowan> nik90, still happens in 229
[15:58] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3, yes known issues
[15:58] <pmcgowan> nik90, is that down in qtorganizer-eds?
[15:58] <rickspencer3> thanks pmcgowan
[15:59] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: renato: popey: any idea why we can't import google contacts anymore by following http://askubuntu.com/questions/360554/how-do-i-sync-google-contacts ?
[15:59] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, no that should work I think, it did a few builds back
[16:00] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: right, broken with latest
[16:00] <ogra_> rsalveti, hmm, i think i saw someone else asking the same today
[16:00] <rickspencer3> well, the alarm worked, at least, so that's a good start
[16:00] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3, still not setting in the hw though, thats the last bit
[16:01] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, not sure what you mean
[16:01] <ogra_> [INFO] addressbook: looking for databases...
[16:01] <ogra_> [INFO] addressbook: okay
[16:01] <ogra_> Gkr: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
[16:01] <ogra_> phone ML, subject: "[Ubuntu-phone] Google Contacts Sync"
[16:01] <ogra_> from yesterday morning
[16:02] <rsalveti> yeah, same what I got here
[16:02] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3, the upper layer sees the alarm and does the notification, but will not work if suspended
[16:02] <ogra_> rsalveti, xnox dropped dbus-x11 from the image
[16:02] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, ah, gotcha
[16:02] <ogra_> i wonder if the import tools try to use it
[16:02] <rickspencer3> sounds like an eds thing :)
[16:02] <pmcgowan> sync-evolution change?
[16:03] <ogra_> pmcgowan, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140308.changes ....
[16:03] <ogra_> no syncevolution ... but dbus-x11 dropping
[16:04] <ogra_> stgraber, we seem to see some random wlan issues with recent images, is there something new in lxc that needs overriding ?
[16:04] <henno> Hi. Is it possible to trigger address-book-app to reload/update contacts after a successful sync with owncloud using syncevolution?
[16:05] <pmcgowan> ogra_, bfiller thinks a new sync-evolution went in friday
[16:05] <bfiller> Laney: when did that synevo land?
[16:06] <pmcgowan> yeah friday
[16:06] <stgraber> ogra_: nope, ubuntu-touch actually turns off all the network features of LXC and just use the host network namespace directly
[16:06] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/syncevolution
[16:06] <rsalveti> ogra_: what issues?
[16:07] <rsalveti> hm, major version bump
[16:07] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, Mirv re the qtwebkit fix we did for DPR, have you looked into applying that for 5.2?
[16:08] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: the big revert patch? I think Mirv tried applying it but got many conflicts
[16:08] <ogra_> rsalveti, popey and Saviq independently had different ones ... while a device was up for popey but no networks were showing in the UI, Saviq had no wlan networking at all
[16:09] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, Mirv we hit a bit of a wall on the real fix to use the new res ind support
[16:09] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: it seems kaleo and ricmm were able to get the last remaining issues with unity-mir fixed last friday
[16:09] <ogra_> rsalveti, both with the latest image right after upgrading
[16:09] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, there is still an issue
[16:09] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, which may not be solvable short term
[16:09] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: hm, which one?
[16:10] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, the edge gesture not working, and shell not using all horizontal pixels
[16:10] <rsalveti> ogra_: need more info, like dmesg and such
[16:10] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, due to the way Qt is doing it, we lose accuracy on real pixels
[16:10] <ogra_> rsalveti, yeah
[16:10] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, so need to also look at the old patch again
[16:11] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: oh, hm
[16:11] <ogra_> rsalveti, bug 1290275 ... not much there either
[16:11] <ogra_> and i think Saviq didnt file one
[16:11] <Saviq> ogra_, no, I didn't, couldn't reproduce - after a reboot the issue was gon
[16:11] <rsalveti> maybe a bug with the newer nm?
[16:11] <Saviq> e
[16:12] <kenvandine> OMG!  My alarm just rang... while suspended!
[16:12] <rsalveti> kenvandine: not fully suspended
[16:12] <kenvandine> the joy... i never thought i'd be so excited to hear an alarm :)
[16:12] <kenvandine> rsalveti, ah, so there are multiple states?
[16:12] <rsalveti> sorry to disappoint you
[16:12] <kenvandine> haha :)
[16:12] <kenvandine> huge progress
[16:12] <ogra_> nah, broken
[16:12] <ogra_> :P
[16:12] <kenvandine> i hadn't touched my phone in at least 5m
[16:12] <rsalveti> kenvandine: mako takes a while to go into deep suspend
[16:12] <kenvandine> then it rang...
[16:13] <rsalveti> there's one annoying wakelock (radio) making it not to go into deep sleep
[16:13] <kenvandine> still a huge step... so anxious for alarms
[16:13] <kenvandine> now to get it using a different sound for alarms
[16:14] <Kaleo> sorry guys:!
[16:14] <kenvandine> hey Kaleo
[16:14] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, do you know if there are plans to be able to change the alarm sound?
[16:15] <nik90> kenvandine: yes that's the plan..the Alarms API has support for it
[16:15] <cwayne> pls be dconf key
[16:15] <pmcgowan> nik90, is that a clock config thing?
[16:15] <nik90> pmcgowan: well I just tested a branch provided to me by zsombi which fixes the edit single alarm issue
[16:15] <kenvandine> i don't recall seeing that on the settings spec, i'd think that would be another category in system-settings
[16:15] <pmcgowan> nik90, cool, guess we need that to land
[16:15] <kenvandine> i think you should be able to choose it from the clock app too
[16:15] <rsalveti> bfiller: pmcgowan: can we get someone that knows more about evolution to find a way to import google contacts?
[16:15] <rsalveti> that's really useful
[16:15] <kenvandine> but i think there should be a setting for the "default alarm sound"
[16:15] <kenvandine> in settings
[16:15] <nik90> pmcgowan: we don't have a design for the alarm sounds yet but it is definitely in the roadmap
[16:16] <pmcgowan> I could see it being in the settings sounds
[16:16] <bfiller> rsalveti: we're quite close to having contact sync working with sync evo so it will just work
[16:16] <bfiller> rsalveti: but in the meantime I'll ask renato to see why it stopped working
[16:16] <rsalveti> bfiller: cool, thanks
[16:17] <nik90> rickspencer3: sorry, those are known alarm issues which are being worked on
[16:17] <rickspencer3> thanks for the heads up nik90
[16:18] <kenvandine> nik90, it is just soooo exciting to get an alarm :)
[16:18] <nik90> kenvandine: well trust me I am more excited than everyone to get alarms working up to this point :D
[16:20] <cwayne> mhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/
[16:21] <didrocks> mhall119: dpm: hey, I'm unsure why we have some app development session in the client track
[16:21] <didrocks> mhall119: dpm: can you move them back in the app developer tracks? Seems like you have some free slots at the same time
[16:22] <dpm> didrocks, we put them in there because they're actually client sessions that were filed as appdev sessions
[16:22] <didrocks> dpm: I can't even reschedule them properly as they are not part of my track
[16:26] <dpm> didrocks, we need an admin to change their type from appdev- to client-. If I'm not mistaken on how summit works, mhall119 can do that. In the meantime I can move some of the sessions out of the way for you so you can reschedule
[16:26] <didrocks> dpm: ok, will tell you then :)
[16:27] <dpm> ok :)
[16:29] <cwayne> bfiller: i dont suppose theres any plan to have the ubuntuuitoolkit gallery packaged as a click?
[16:31] <pmcgowan> cwayne, its open source ;)
[16:31] <cwayne> lol
[16:32] <mhall119> didrocks: thanks for the birthday present :)
[16:32] <mhall119> r226 is lovely
[16:32] <didrocks> mhall119: ahah, it was all planned from the beginning \o/
[16:32] <didrocks> had to retained an image for 2 weeks and half just for yo!
[16:32] <didrocks> you*
[16:32] <mhall119> heh, glad to know I'm that important :)
[16:33] <didrocks> mhall119: heh, this is called "dedication" :)
[16:35]  * genii slides Hashcode a coffee and a Motorola Photon G with Cornholio hardware mod
[16:35] <davmor2> didrocks: Oh so it's all mhall119 faulty that the images were broken then, That comes as absolutely no surprise to me ;)
[16:36]  * Hashcode would probably need more than 1 coffee.
[16:36] <genii> Hashcode: :D
[16:36] <davmor2> s/faulty/fault :)
[16:37] <Hashcode> genii did someone put out an Ubuntu Touch for the Photon 4G?
[16:37] <genii> Hashcode: Not that I know of yet, but then again it's a limited market with the stock models and embedded SIM ....
[16:38] <Hashcode> ah
[16:38] <davmor2> mhall119: can you have an unofficial daily birthday so we can get back to regular promotion waiting another 12 months for your birthday to come round again won't be fun :D
[16:39] <genii> Hashcode: I actually pretty much have given up on any more decent QWERTY phones and resigned myself to purchasing a Nexus 4
[16:39] <mhall119> davmor2: we had daily promotion before, didrocks just stopped them to lower my expectations in the lead up to my birthday
[16:40] <Hashcode> genii: yeah the future for hard keyboard is pretty dim
[16:40] <mhall119> he's social-engineering our relationship
[16:40] <davmor2> mhall119: hehe :)
[16:40] <Hashcode> I still have my Droid 4 :/
[16:41] <genii> Hashcode: Are you still working on Touch for Droid 4? Because I can pick one up pretty cheap here to tinker with
[16:41] <Hashcode> genii: I've been "slacking" lately
[16:42] <genii> Hashcode: Yes, I understand
[16:42] <ogra_> mhall119, so you and jcastro share the same birthday ?
[16:42] <Hashcode> genii: Playing w/ a k3.14 Android build up for the KFire
[16:44] <didrocks> mhall119: damned, where is my mask now? :)
[16:44] <mhall119> ogra_: mine was yesterday, so technically didrocks was late with my present, but I'll forgive him because it was on a Sunday
[16:44] <ogra_> haha
[16:44] <ogra_> mhall119, happy belated b-day then :)
[16:44] <mhall119> thanks :)
[16:44] <didrocks> mhall119: come on, you asked me to block everyone for 2 weeks and half just for you, and you are asking me to work on Sunday? :)
[16:44] <didrocks> tsss people
[16:44] <didrocks> no reward… :p
[16:45] <mhall119> didrocks: if you *really* loved me, I wouldn't have to ask
[16:45] <ogra_> didrocks, well, but it was a birthday present ...
[16:45] <didrocks> mhall119: ahah
[16:45] <didrocks> ogra_: come on, he's younger for a day and complain! :)
[16:45] <ogra_> heh
[16:47] <cwayne> mhall119: hiya, just proposed a meeting for oem/carrier customizations, was wondering if I need to do anything further, or if it's waiting on someone else? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/
[16:48] <davmor2> mhall119: happy day after birthday then dude :)  Technically it was ready Friday but didrocks had to go paint a kitchen like that was important ;)  Admittedly he is still alive to release it today so probably the wiser decision :)
[16:49] <mhall119> work suggestions on the OSK are great, but when it doesn't like what I've typed there's no way for me to tell it to accept it anyway?
[16:49] <didrocks> davmor2: yeah, we are kitchen-date driven for promotion :)
[16:49] <didrocks> the final release will be in 2 weeks then
[16:49] <didrocks> :)
[16:49] <mhall119> cwayne: what track should this be on?
[16:49] <mhall119> client?
[16:50] <didrocks> the kitchen track? :)
[16:50] <davmor2> didrocks: \o/ then we can sun and surf for the rest of the release right?
[16:50] <cwayne> either client or core i'd think?
[16:50] <didrocks> davmor2: or start cooking :)
[16:50] <mhall119> didrocks: we have a hallway track....but that's as far as we've gotten
[16:50] <didrocks> ahah :)
[16:50] <mhall119> cwayne: pick one, put your proposed meeting on that, and bug a track lead
[16:50] <mhall119> cwayne: track leads are listed on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/tracks
[16:51] <cwayne> mhall119: thanks :)
[16:53] <cwayne> slangasek: hi, was wondering how to get http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22218/carrieroem-customizations/ scheduled
[16:53] <slangasek> cwayne: isn't this a duplicate of the blueprint ogra already created?
[16:54] <slangasek> cwayne: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22219/core-1403-hardware-handling-touch/
[16:54] <cwayne> slangasek: no, that's for getting hw-specific bits out of the rootfs and into the device tarball, this is more for carrier customizations
[16:54] <slangasek> ah
[16:54] <ogra_> slangasek, mine is solely HW porting related
[16:54] <cwayne> so related, but different :)
[16:54] <slangasek> cwayne: ok, so is there a reason yours is not registered as a blueprint?
[16:55] <slangasek> if you're expecting this discussion to lead to any work items across Ubuntu Core, please register it as a blueprint instead of directly in summit
[16:55] <MacSlow> mandel, do you have an idea why an image-update from 194 to 226 might not work... the image was downloaded and installed, but the "about device"-page (or system-image-cli) still reports 194 to be installed.
[16:56] <cwayne> slangasek: i'd  be surprised if any work items were assigned outside my team, but happy to register a bp
[16:56] <MacSlow> mandel, hm... oddly... now it worked on the nexus4... but still not after three attempts on the nexus10
[16:57] <slangasek> cwayne: if you guys are doing all the work, then there's no need from our side for a blueprint :)  I'll get it registered
[16:57] <mhall119> didrocks: I had to bump a client session off the schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22174/core-1403-landing-process-touch/
[16:57] <mhall119> didrocks: to make room for mark's keynote
[16:57] <mhall119> so it'll need to be re-scheduled
[16:57] <cwayne> slangasek: lovely, thank you :)
[16:57] <didrocks> mhall119: hum, this one was agreed to be at that time for asac
[16:58] <ogra_> mhall119, or you could ask mark to talk about the touch landing process
[16:58] <ogra_> :)
[16:58] <ogra_> then it fits again
[16:58] <didrocks> mhall119: he's on holidays and already talked about it
[16:58] <didrocks> on the phone ML
[16:58] <slangasek> mhall119, didrocks: I've rescheduled it for the last slot on wednesday
[16:58] <slangasek> (but, sigh)
[16:58] <didrocks> slangasek: last slot? wasn't it there already?
[16:58] <mhall119> slangasek: 1900 slot on wednesday is a plenary now
[16:58] <slangasek> didrocks: s/last slot/last remaining slot/
[16:59] <slangasek> so in fact it's now in the /first/ slot ;)
[16:59] <didrocks> mhall119: I thought the schedule wasn't going to change :/
[16:59] <didrocks> I'm happy it's in the first slot, but would be nice if mhall119 would talk abou it
[16:59] <mhall119> didrocks: it's a sabdfl change
[16:59] <didrocks> and ensure asac will come :)
[17:00] <mhall119> asac: sorry about the late change, can you make the new time on that session?
[17:00] <didrocks> mhall119: he's on holidays
[17:00] <didrocks> and will only come back for that day
[17:00] <didrocks> let's hope he will be back in time…
[17:01] <mhall119> didrocks: I'll email him, hopefully he's checking email
[17:01] <didrocks> mhall119: thanks
[17:01] <didrocks> mhall119: however, can you take the session in client 2 at the same time and put it at the app developer2.
[17:01] <didrocks> mhall119: I can't be in 2 hangouts :p
[17:01] <cwayne> not with that attitude you can't
[17:03] <mhall119> didrocks: the webbrowser one?
[17:03] <didrocks> mhall119: yeah
[17:03] <didrocks> mhall119: I'll email the ML as well about the change
[17:15] <mandel> MacSlow, no idea, we do know there is a bug we want to fix but we are blocked by the qt 5.2 change
[17:15] <MacSlow> mandel, ok
[17:15] <mandel> MacSlow, those 3 attemps might be due to that
[17:15] <mandel> MacSlow, were you doing a manual check for updates?
[17:15] <MacSlow> mandel, just odd that it worked on the N4 but not on the n10
[17:16] <mandel> MacSlow, it is indeed strange, specially because the code is the same, it is not a bad  idea to file a bug and ping barry too
[17:17] <MacSlow> mandel, I will
[17:18] <ogra_> MacSlow, do you have the proper recovery image installed btw ? the new images have a rotating ubuntu circle of friends when applying the update
[17:18] <ogra_> (not the little robot with the guts out and rotating diamond)
[17:19] <MacSlow> ogra_, nope... still seeing the android robot
[17:19] <MacSlow> ogra_, I didn't know I have to explicitly update that too
[17:19] <MacSlow> ogra_, which wiki-page to consult?
[17:19] <ogra_> ah, thats most likely your issue ... you should flash once with --bootstrap=true
[17:19] <sergiusens> MacSlow, then reboot to bootloader and ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap --channel your_choice
[17:19] <MacSlow> will do that
[17:20] <sergiusens> MacSlow, you don't unless you've been hit by the bug
[17:20] <sergiusens> in image 205 iirc
[17:21] <sergiusens> ogra_, updating from devel to devel won't give you the awesome circle of friends though as the updater script doesn't boot into the latest recovery it has when updating
[17:21] <sergiusens> ogra_, flashing a device without bootstrapping out of band acts the exact same way as a system-image-cli update
[17:23] <ogra_> ah
[17:24] <sergiusens> stgraber, any thoughts about booting into the new recovery if it's provided with the update?
[17:25] <mhall119> is phablet-screenshot broken for the n4 r226?
[17:26] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, can you get someone to test https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/phablet-tools/fix_1289525/+merge/210007 on precise?
[17:26] <ahayzen> fginther, ping
[17:27] <MacSlow> sergiusens, hm... "fastboot devices" does no longer show the N4... so what way do I have to make it boot into the bootloader? Does the Volume-Up/Down/Power-press also work from a running device?
[17:27] <didrocks> mhall119: mind moving it now? I can't ;)
[17:27] <didrocks> mhall119: and then will forget :p
[17:27] <mhall119> didrocks: moving what to where/when?
[17:27] <sergiusens> MacSlow, adb reboot bootloader
[17:27] <didrocks> mhall119: thursday, second session on client2?
[17:27] <sergiusens> MacSlow, or power up as you say
[17:28] <didrocks> mhall119: for the session we talked about, the webbrowser one
[17:28] <MacSlow> sergiusens, "adb reboot bootloader" reports "device not found" although it's plugged in and powered up
[17:28] <sergiusens> mhall119, the hack of phablet-screenshot won't work anymore with most device until the latest mir lands and screenshotting is provided by it
[17:28] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: I can ask here, everyone I know is running trusty.
[17:28] <sergiusens> MacSlow, are you in the bootloader?
[17:29] <mhall119> didrocks: thursday's client 2 session is contact/calendar sync
[17:29] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, yeah, maybe fginther can
[17:29] <didrocks> mhall119: that's not the second session, right?
[17:29] <didrocks> mhall119: at 3 PM UTC
[17:29] <MacSlow> sergiusens, no I want to get to it... as you said I've to "ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap=true" to get the newer recovery image flashed
[17:29] <sergiusens> MacSlow, just in case if in bootloader -> fastboot; if in recovery or running system -> adb
[17:30] <mhall119> didrocks: there's nothing in client-2 at 1500 on Thursday
[17:30] <sergiusens> MacSlow, so if cable and sw is failing I say power cycle and press both vol buttons
[17:30] <mhall119> didrocks: are you talking about Wednesday?
[17:31] <didrocks> mhall119: yeah, so please move the session that is now in conflict on wednesday 2 PM UTC (the webbrowser one) due to the session you moved (landing process rules) to this free slot
[17:31] <didrocks> mhall119: would be way easier if I can move session on my track…
[17:32] <mhall119> didrocks: done
[17:32] <didrocks> mhall119: thx
[17:32] <mhall119> didrocks: that meeting can be re-classifed as client track, then you'd be able to move it
[17:32] <didrocks> mhall119: I would love, can you reclassify the 2 on my tracks?
[17:32] <didrocks> (the 2 from thursday)
[17:37] <mhall119> didrocks: meetings from LP need to be renamed, otherwise if I change it in summit it'll just be changed back on the next import
[17:38] <mhall119> bfiller: pmcgowan: ^^ can we change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1303-apps-webbrowser and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1403-pim-sync to be client-1403-* named?
[17:38] <didrocks> thanks mhall119, bfiller :)
[17:38] <mhall119> bfiller: might as well change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1311-apps-convergence too
[17:38] <pmcgowan> mhall119, pim sync makes sense to switch, not sure browser does
[17:39] <pmcgowan> convergence is fine
[17:39] <pmcgowan> to switch
[17:42] <bfiller> mhall119: fine with me, just send me a link to the new locations as I'm editing them today
[17:42] <mhall119> bfiller: location is the same, except s/appdev/client/
[17:43] <mhall119> pmcgowan: I think the browser session should be changed because app developers don't use the browser
[17:45] <pmcgowan> mhall119, they will discuss the webview there,and the webapp container
[17:45] <pmcgowan> mhall119, but up to you
[17:53] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: I am downloading precise and will check phablet-network in a live session, if that works for you?
[17:53] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, sure; that should work
[17:53] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: a live cd/usb session.
[17:55] <fginther> ahayzen, pong
[17:55] <ahayzen> fginther, i see the clock and sudoku app are building on the PPA again, i believe we provided the same fix to the music-app is there any reason its PPA has not also been updated?
[17:56] <fginther> ahayzen, checking
[17:57] <ahayzen> fginther, thanks
[17:58] <seb128> awe__, cyphermox, rsalveti: hey, do you know if ofono provides what we need for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1287267 or if that's being worked on?
[18:00] <awe__> seb128, no this isn't being worked on atm
[18:00] <mhall119> pmcgowan: I've gone ahead and change the webbrowser session to client- too, if for no other reason than to let didrocks control it's schedule placement in his room
[18:00] <pmcgowan> mhall119, fine
[18:00] <awe__> seb128, I'll update the bug wrt to ofono and it's capabilities
[18:00] <seb128> awe__, ok, is there a roadmap for the ofono work? can we get it added somewhere? (or just the bug triaged)
[18:01] <seb128> awe__, thanks
[18:03] <fginther> ahayzen, the version number went backwards.  It was 1.2ubuntu2, then it went to 1.2 and now it's 1.2ubuntu1. The version in the PPA is based on 1.2ubuntu2.
[18:04] <ahayzen> fginther, so if we bump to 1.2ubuntu3 ? it'll be rebuilt?
[18:04] <popey> heh, oops
[18:04] <fginther> ahayzen, yes. 1.2ubuntu2 should also work
[18:04] <popey> thanks fginther
[18:04] <ahayzen> fginther, thanks
[18:04] <fginther> popey, ahayzen, you're welcome
[18:15] <ahayzen> fginther, popey, is this correct? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/bump-version-1.2ubuntu2/+merge/210275
[18:16] <popey> lgtm
[18:16] <fginther> ahayzen, +1
[18:16] <ahayzen> popey, can u approve it if so :)
[18:17] <ahayzen> fginther, popey, thanks guys :)
[18:17] <popey> sho thang
[18:17] <popey> done
[18:18] <henno> how can i signal the address-book-app to reload contacts? or am i doing somethin gwrong when using sync-evolution?
[18:19] <henno> is there a dbus signal i could send to the app ?
[18:35] <ahayzen> new music app has landed in the PPA \o/ thanks fginther, popey
[18:35] <fginther> ahayzen, excellent
[18:53] <arnyekheja> hello
[18:54] <arnyekheja> tudvalaki segiteni hogy  egy "Prestigio 5300 duo ,53coll -os telefonra mikor lehet felakni a ubuntut
[18:54] <arnyekheja> ?
[18:55] <arnyekheja> 5,3"
[18:57] <genii> That seemed quite cryptic.
[18:57] <slangasek> Hungarian usually is
[20:18] <aquarius> has the new image been promoted to trusty, or is it in trusty-danger-will-robinson or something?
[20:19] <nhaines> aquarius: if by "new image" you mean "old image from Friday", then the answer is a resounding yes.
[20:19] <aquarius> friday? blimey :)
[20:19] <nhaines> That's r226.  :)
[20:19] <aquarius> I could have upgraded over the weekend ifI'd known that!
[20:19] <nhaines> You could've!  :)
[20:19] <aquarius> the Ubuntu Dual Boot android app doesn't show me what's *available*, just what I *have*
[20:19] <aquarius> (I have 194)
[20:20]  * aquarius uninstalls ubuntu with the android app, and yet preserves user data, hooray
[20:20] <aquarius> does the r226 handle doing system upgrades from Ubuntu while being a dual boot? or is that work still pending?
[20:21]  * aquarius installs from the trusty channel
[20:23] <nhaines> aquarius: hmm.  Good question!  I think that's still pending.
[20:23] <aquarius> no worries
[20:23] <aquarius> the android faffing about is not too much of a problem
[20:23] <aquarius> but I am too chicken to dedicate my phone completely yet :)
[20:23] <nhaines> I'm on the Nexus 5 so I use MultiROM Manager, and that now supports system upgrade from Ubuntu, so I'm happy.  :)
[20:23] <nhaines> Sometimes youw want Google Navigation.  :)
[20:23] <Tassadar> dammit, my s-i.tasemnice.eu generated the new devel image with wrong version number
[20:23] <aquarius> well, working bluetooth, but yeah :P
[20:24] <popey> aquarius: the image was built on friday but not promoted till today
[20:24] <aquarius> popey, aha, cool
[20:24] <nhaines> I'm still a little appalled that no one seems concerned by the lack of working Bluetooth on Ubuntu.  :P
[20:24] <aquarius> nhaines, well, bluetooth works fine on my desktop
[20:24] <aquarius> just not on my phone, yet.
[20:25] <aquarius> I am assuming it's being worked on
[20:25] <aquarius> but there's lots to do, and it's not the most critical thing
[20:25] <nhaines> aquarius: actually, I think trusty broke everything on my laptop.  I should probably recheck now that there's been kernel updates.
[20:25] <cyphermox> nhaines: I am concerned, it's just not simple
[20:25] <nhaines> Bluetooth is kind of a critical thing if you want to ship phones.  :)
[20:26]  * aquarius nods. I trust cyphermox :)
[20:26] <nhaines> cyphermox: if it were simple it would have been fixed last July.  As long as there's concern and work, I'm happy.  :)
[20:26] <cyphermox> nhaines: yes, it would have been fixed in july ;)
[20:26] <nhaines> Maybe Meizu or BQ will throw money at it.  That'd be nice.
[20:27] <genii> It would also be nice if they released a 64 or 128 G version which wasn't specific to Chinese frequency ranges
[20:32] <nhaines> genii: I suppose we'll have to wait and see what the Ubuntu devices look like.  :)
[20:33] <genii> I figure the first MX3 will have to be 32G international models
[20:34] <aquarius> yay I have Update Manager back again!
[20:37] <nhaines> aquarius: wouldn't it be more fun to just uninstall and reinstall apps randomly to see if they've updated?
[20:38] <aquarius> Hm. Because I'm dual-booting, I did the "downgrade the android radio to 4.2" thing. didrocks's promotion email says that it's now using android 4.4 for hardware, so.... should I reverse that process now?
[20:42] <aquarius> Also, a question. Spell checking, auto completion, and word suggestions are turned off in System Settings > Language and Text. Is that because I have an old image which has been upgraded, or are they supposed to be off by default because they're not ready yet?
[20:43] <nhaines> aquarius: yes you should probably go back to the 4.4 radio.
[20:43] <nhaines> Language settings aren't ready yet, but I think I read where they are happy to have testers.
[20:47] <aquarius> nhaines, are there instructions around for going back to the 4.4 radio?
[20:52] <nhaines> aquarius: no, but it's basically the same thing you did to get the 4.2 radio, except you extract it from the 4.4 image. :)
[20:56] <popey> aquarius: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06840.html
[21:01] <dansuf> Hi, I am trying to build working kernel for my device using the brunch command. I want to change the compression of the initramfs from gzip to something else to check if it would solve kernel panics. How can I do it?
[21:06] <aquarius> popey, oh, nice, there's a new version of the android thing? COol
[21:10] <aquarius> popey, is Alex Kaluzhny on irc? I don't know him/her
[21:10] <popey> aquarius: alexkaluzhny
[21:10] <aquarius> ah, easy enough :)
[21:12] <Tassadar> hmm, did the 226 trusty image get promoted correctly? Like, wasn't it accidentally version 207 and then got changed? I'm trying to find out why my s-i server marked it as 207 instead of 226
[21:13] <popey> no, its certainly 226
[21:16] <Tassadar> hm, I just don't see how it could've used 207 Oo well, I've fixed it manually now and added some more logs, we'll see when the next image gets to devel
[21:21] <cwayne> plars: just to make sure i'm doing the right thing trying to reprouce the uitoolkit stuff -- is phablet-click-test-setup and then phablet-test-run ubuntuuitoolkit close enough to what is done by jenkins?
[21:23] <plars> cwayne: I believe that one also installs the -autopilot package
[21:23] <plars> cwayne: and we enable writable image
[21:24] <plars> cwayne: so you'd also want to do that with phablet-config
[21:24] <cwayne> plars: so phablet-config writable-image and then apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot?
[21:25] <plars> cwayne: sounds about right
[21:26] <cwayne> plars: i'll give that a shot then
[22:48] <gntuna> I am trying to put Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus, but when I get to the point of "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap" I get an error message saying "Device is |tuna| Device tuna not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel devel" I don't quite understand because this variant I have is maguro 16GB. Is It still possible to put on Ubuntu Touch?
[22:52] <sergiusens> gntuna, add --device maguro to the cli
[22:53] <gntuna> Thanks so much :)
[23:03] <cwayne> plars: so good news and bad news!  good news: I'm *finally* able to reproduce the hang!  the bad news: it didn't really help me figure out what's going on
[23:04] <cwayne> also doesn't make sense to me how it happens all the time on the dashboard, but I had to try multiple times to repro..
[23:05] <cwayne> heh, and now to check that it was indeed hanged i picked up the phone nad scrolled, and now it seems the tests picked up where they left off
[23:11] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: phablet-tools depends on a package call click but it's not installable in precise.
[23:11] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: am I missing a ppa?
[23:12] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: I apt-added the  ppa:phablet-team/tools
[23:18] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, the ubuntu sdk ppa
[23:19] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, it's fixed in an unmerged branch under review
[23:20] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: my phablet-network MP works in a precise live USB session, I was just doing some exploratory testing while I had it loaded...
[23:21] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, awesome
[23:21] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, were you fixing gallery tests btw?
[23:22] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: no I don't know about gallery tests, I have been working on upgrade testing using system-settings.
[23:22] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: I can take a look to see if it's easy to fix and do it if you have a bug
[23:25] <robotfuel_> sergiusens: I planned on starting with HWE testing tomorrow
[23:25] <sergiusens> robotfuel_, nah, I recall you (and perhaps not) asking about gallery testing
[23:26] <sergiusens> there's a fix that need to happen which is rather dumb; but if someone was shifting and swapping test stuff; I wanted to piggyback on it